Re: [Hornlist] Sex, Drugs, and Polka
This one, perchancies? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Diamond_Society Paul On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Greg Campbell glc_h...@fastmail.fm wrote: c...@fenwickparva.com wrote: Blue Diamond is evidently the name of an organization with which I don't want my music associated. Almonds? http://www.bluediamond.com/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Funny sales history, confirmation please!
Sorry Richard, but the label Made in W. Germany was around until after the fall of the Berlin wall. I have CDs with Made in West Germany printed on the back, and I don't think those were around in the 1960's. Also, it was the Soviet Union, not Russia, that exerted dominance over East Germany during that time period. Paul On 5/21/09, Richard V. West hornfe...@comcast.net wrote: Whoops! Tears instead of years. Must have been a Freudian slip, apropos but unintended (I think). Richard in Seattle Richard V. West wrote: The seller also has the putative date of manufacture wrong. The phrase Made in W. Germany was used in the tears immediately following World War 2 to differentiate the Western zones of Germany---occupied by the Americans, French, and British---from East Germany---the Russian dominated part of divided Germany, but was phased out of use in the 1960s. My guess is that the horn was probably made in the 1950s. Richard in Seattle ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Stopping valve
Obviously, there are no horn concertos written exclusively for the stopped horn. The stopping valve can be fitted with a slide (of the correct length) to pitch the horn a half step lower or to function as a true stopping valve for Bb horns. So a Bb horn would turn into an A horn in this manner. It would, for instance, make the Weber Concertino or the Danzi concerto in E much more finger friendly. Paul Rincon On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Carlberg Jones carlbergjo...@prodigy.net.mx wrote: At 6:25 PM -0300 4/16/09, Robson Adabo de Mello wrote: Can the stopping valve be used on difficult passages or concertos on non-friendly keys, like E major? Sure, no reason not to. By the way, will someone please tell me which of the hundreds of horn concertos are written for stopped horn? If the answer is yes, why the stopping valve is placed just on the Bb side? Because stopping, done properly, raises the pitch of the F horn a half step. On the Bb side, the same stopped hand position raises the pitch more than a half step, therefore, a stopping valve is offered on some horns. Is it necessary to play the whole concerto on the Bb (A) side? No. Again, someone clue me in on what concerto (I'm after only one) is for stopped horn throughout. Yeah, I know you're a trumpet player. Okay, then, I'll settle for a trumpet concerto written for muted trumpet. Is there any double horn with stopping valve on both sides? I've never seen one, but I haven't seen all the horns that are out there. Is there any double descant with stopping valve on both sides? I would say this would not be applicable since these horns (I assume you mean high F and high Bb, same as a Bb trumpet) would not be used for pieces requiring stopped notes. As in Baroque music. Actually, maybe someone can answer this question. Why do descants in Bb and high F sometimes have stopping valves when one can stop on the high F side just fine, fingering a whole step lower? -- Carlberg Jones Skype - carlbergbmug Cornista - Orquesta Sinfónica de Aguascalientes Aguascalientes, Ags. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] KMZT
Nope. Paul On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:57 PM, William Botte wab4...@hotmail.com wrote: Did anybody on the list listen to the Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra performing Beethoven Symphony 7 Sunday evening of KMZT FM (KMozart)? This was one of the most disappointing performances of the seventh that I've ever heard. Articulations and tempos where not what I remember from when I have performed it and some of the intonations were 'iffy'. Maybe the musicians were reacting to a lack luster direction from maestro Kahane, I think was his name. Was this something new in the world of music or am I an elitist SOB? _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Vienna Phil
It seemed as though Tomböck was using a shorter crook for the Haydn Farewell. If I remember correctly, it had one little turn on it. Maybe an A crook? Probably the best playing of that solo that I've ever heard. The 2nd horn (don't know who it was) sounded amazing as well. Paul On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:36 AM, hans.pi...@t-online.de hans.pi...@t-online.de wrote: After Herbert von Karajan conducted the 1988 New Year´s Concert, Daniel Barenboim conducted a wonderful romantic concert. The Vienna Phil sounded incredibly sweet, velvet light this year. And Wolfgang Tomböck . and his colleagues . not only the single F Horns, but also the players . there is no better adjectiv than IDEAL. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] bell manufacturers
Lawson Horns in Bethlehem, NH. www.Lawsonhorns.com Paul On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Luke Zyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am considering installing a new bell and bell tail on my 1980 Paxman model 20L. I know of one bell maker that can make a bell to ones specifications: Bernd Sandner http://www.schallstueck.de/english/index.htm Does anyone know anyone else that provides this service? Luke Zyla 2nd horn, WV Symphony Orchestra www.wvsymphony.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] artist line up
Probably the 1st IHS symposium in 1968 at The Florida State University. Just a guess, though. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Leonard Peggy Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just came across an old program. Anyone wish to guess where this was? The artists are listed as: Anton Horner Arthur Berv James Chambers Phil Farkas Carl Geyer John Barrows Wendell Hoss Max Pottag and Barry Tuckwell Is this what is ment by the term heavy hitters? : ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Judge Judy
How many lessons could you have possibly given the student to take him to small claims court? I would think that you would have figured out pretty soon that he/she was not going to pay for the lessons. Also, why waste time going to court wouldn't it be better to merely let bygones be bygones and not teach the student? His (or her) professional reputation would suffer as a result of a lawsuit. Perhaps you could warn whoever the offender is of these repercussions to possibly obtain payment out of fear for their future professional reputation. I wouldn't even bother with anything. Just write it off as a loss and move on. Paul ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] ?Practice mutes...
If it's really that quiet, it would be good for that nasty Quoniam from Bach's Mass in B-minor. Paul On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Ben Reidhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't tried that (I'm not that brave and I've not come up across any situations where that might be needed) but I could see the potential for doing so. I guess that if I were to find that necessary, I would only do so during loud orchestral tuttis, or only warmup in the lower register. Ben --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Hornlist] ?Practice mutes... To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 8:22 AM -Original Message- From: Ben Reidhead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:50 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] ?Practice mutes... I would add the Ion Balu practice mute to your list. Its available at http://www.ionbalu.com/more_products.html. I've been playing with one quite a bit recently due to some extended time in a hotel room, and not noticed many ill effects from it. I'm quite happy. I took a look at this web site - they mention using this practice mute _during_ a performance to warmup for what might otherwise be a cold entrance. Is it really _that_ quiet? -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/corno42%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Franz Welser-M?st Comments
I met a reasonably well-known horn player in Washington D.C. recently who told me that inside diameter of the old Conns was somewhere around 10.8-11mm. If you listen to the Cleveland Orchestra recordings of Bruckner symphonies - it is hard to distinguish a difference between the Conns and the Vienna horns. The difference is most apparent in the strings and oboes, but the horns are very similar. Paul On 6/12/08, hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And he played the horn (Szell). But many conductors asre believed to be deaf !!! Question to the specialists: what was the bore of the very, very old Conns ? Anybody knows ? In millimeters, please. To compare: Viennese bore (inside diameter of the cylindrical tube) is 10,8 mms. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:horn-bounces+hans horn-bounces%2Bhans[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Mumford Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:45 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Franz Welser-M?st Comments At least regarding the horn sound, George Szell thought the 8D came closest to producing a sound like the Vienna horns so that's why he wanted 8Ds in the Cleveland Orchestra. So there you go, you could say Vienna's kind of European. - Steve Mumford message: 14 date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:52:57 -0400 from: Luke Zyla subject: [Hornlist] Franz Welser-M?st Comments In a post concert interview, Franz Welser-M=F6st said that the Cleveland = Orchestra is the most European of all American orchestras. I find = this to be an interesting comment knowing that the horn section is a = solid 8-D section, perhaps the last major American orchestra horn = section to be so after NY Phil converted to the Schmid. I always = thought that Boston was much more European in their concept. I have = only heard Cleveland, Boston, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia in live = concert. I certainly wouldn't consider Cleveland more European than = the others. I wonder what makes an orchestra sound European rather = than American? From the interview, it would seem that volume is a big = factor. Of course, who knows how much was edited out of the interview. = Any comments? Luke Zyla 2nd horn, West Virginia Symphony Orchestra (about as American as you can = get) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Franz Welser-M?st Comments
Hans, your messages are still being 'swallowed' up and don't show at all, at least on my computer... On 6/13/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Franz Welser-M?st Comments (8D measurements)
Jerry, Do you know if this was the 8D that Richard Mackey played on during his days in the Cleveland Orchestra and in the Los Angeles studios? Best wishes, Paul On 6/13/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/13/2008 1:10:33 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question to the specialists: what was the bore of the very, very old Conns ? Anybody knows ? In millimeters, please. To compare: Viennese bore (inside diameter of the cylindrical tube) is 10,8 mms. Hello Hans, I hope all is well with you and yours and that you are enjoying retirement. I have measured Conn 8D number 320445 which was made in the fall of 1937. The 8D was introduced in 1938 and, according to Jimmy Decker, this was the 6th 8D made. The measurements were made at several points including the leadpipe, the 6 valve slides and the Bb and F horn tuning slides. The measurements were consistant at all points and were 11.8mm (.465 inches). The modern 8Ds are listed at .468 inches (11.9mm). I measured a Texas 8D and another Elkhart 8D and they both measured 11.9mm (.468) at several points. The weight is 4 lb. 12 oz. For comparison, my Texas 8D weights 5 lb. 2 oz. and the Elkhart 8D weights 5 lb. 3 oz. S/Nyr mm lb/ozmfgr. location = 320445 (1937) 11.8mm4 / 12Elkhart, Indiana 770xxx (1958) 11.9mm5 / 3 Elkhart, Indiana Rx (1972) 11.9mm5 / 2 Abilene, Texas Hope this helps. Best regards, Jerry Old in Kansas City **Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Bach 'Cello suites- good horn rep?
Richard Mackey won the 3rd position with The Cleveland Orchestsra playing the Sarabande from the first suite, and Jesse McCormick won 2nd in the same orchestra a few years back with one of the suites (can't remember which one, though). It must be a Cleveland thing, I suppose. Paul On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Jay Sewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One bit of advice: NEVER use the Bach Cello Suites for an orchestra audition if they ask for an optional piece - your choice. Unless, or course, the position is for a spot in the cello section. Bad personal experience... Jay Sewell original message date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:25:56 -0400 from: Kellen McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: [Hornlist] Bach 'Cello suites- good horn rep? Hello everyone, I am a relatively young horn player, but have worked extensively on Bach's 'Cello Suite I. I love the piece dearly, both at the slower tempos it is taken at on horn, and at the faster tempos one hears on 'cello recordings. However, having played the piece for a couple different horn teachers, I've found that the suites aren't as universally accepted as proper horn repertoire as I would have thought. So, I thought I would ask the hornlist: What are the 'cello suites for? How are they viewed in the horn world as repertoire? Are we allowed to play them, even though Bach was very specific about what instrument ought to be playing his 'Cello suites? Thanks, Kellen M. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Concertos
Alan Civil's and Gerd Seifert's recordings are my two favorites. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 2:36 AM, hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the Mozart Concertos ? The best are Dennis Brain Michael Hoeltzel ! == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:horn-bounces+hans horn-bounces%2Bhans[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Kecherson Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 5:39 AM To: Hornlist Subject: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Concertos Hello All (again) I have been listening to the Mozart Horn Concertos recently, as I will be playing one of the movements (probably the second concerto, movement III) in a June recital. I have now listened to three recordings of these concertos, and I have an opinion-based question. I have heard a Barry Tuckwell recording, the recording of Dale Clevenger under Janos Rolla, and the recordings of Eric Ruske with the Scottish Chamber Orchestra. Of those three, I like the recording with Barry Tuckwell the least. In the second concert, third movement, it sounds like he was pushing very hard to get the high B flat out, and I do not like his tone quality very much. The second place recording is the Dale Clevenger one. I think that his tone is wonderful in the second concerto, but the first concerto (in D major) does not have the same rich smoothness. Therefore, my favorite recording is the Eric Ruske recording. He is a well-rounded player, and is able to put so much emotion into what he plays. And so, my question: Who do you think is the best player of those three? -- Tim ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Wagner Tuba
There is an LP with Roland Berger and Roland Horvath (both ex-members of the Vienna Philharmonic) where they play some Wagner Tuba/Viennese horn concertos. I think the LP is called Contemporary Viennese Music for Horn and Wagner Tuba...Although I'm not sure. Hans knows it surely, as it is the one where Roland and Roland look like they belong in La Cosa Nostra. Paul On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:04 AM, hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you play a Wagnertuba the way most people play the Horn today (and they press a lot of air through the instrument), the Wagnertuba tends to blair too loud. So the approach is quite different. As the holding position is different also, one has to hold he WT in a way, that the axle through mouth lead pipe is NOT bent, a position quite not so comfortable. Yes, intonation is different somewhat problematic due to the open bell- One has to use some alternative fingerings when playing certain chords. Some malers tried to make the WT with a much wider bell like a tenorhorn to get an easier intonation, but ruined all the sound colours so important for the WT. The double tuba produced by Alexander is a versatile instrument but lacks all characteristics of both the F the Bb tuba, which were built with different bell dimensions, the F much wider than the Bb. The WT is not a solo instrument, beeing played for a concerto with orchestra accompaniment, while there is a concerto by Jan Koetsier, who has composed a lot for horn. The euphonium or the tenor horn would be a much better choice as solo instrument. If I would be a composer, I would refran from composing a solo for the rather clumsy WT but use it in a set of two or four to express certain serenity, solemn impressions, ferocity, etc. according to the examples set by R.Wagner, R.Strauss, A.Bruckner a lot of soundtrack composers. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:horn-bounces+hans horn-bounces%2Bhans[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robson Adabo de Mello Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:59 PM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Wagner Tuba Hello Guys I'm a trumpet player, so if some of my questions are too basic I need to say I'm sorry. - Is it much different to play a french horn and wagner tuba? - The wagner tuba has a problematic intonation or it's just different from the horn because it has a open bell? - The Alexander is the most used brand of wagner tuba? The model 110 is Bb/F or F/Bb? -Is there any solo video or CD with Wagner tuba? (When I say solo I mean in front of the orchestra) Thank you very much Robson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] chicken or egg
Strauss wrote the piano part first and later orchestrated the concerto (assuming we're talking about Nr. 1). Paul On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know, but I would guess the usually orchestral parts would come first and the piano reduction later - at least, that's how I write things. But, as I say, I don't know (so maybe I should stay out of it?) Cheers, Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Bach Partita BWV 825
Hello, I am searching for the Verne Reynolds arrangement of the J.S. Bach Partita Nr. 1 (BWV 825). Does anyone know if it was published, and if so, who the publisher was and if it is still obtainable? I have searched Robert King's site as well as the NEC and Eastman libraries to no success. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I would like to begin working on this piece and prepare it for a recital in the near future. Best wishes, Paul Rincon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Bach - B minor Mass - 11 - Quoniam tu solus sanctus
I recently obtained a recording of Bach's Mass in B Minor performed by the Vienna State Opera Orchestra, conducted by Hermann Scherchen. Any ideas as to who the horn player might be? It doesn't sound like Roland Berger (perhaps Hans Berger?) The recording (from 1960), is on the Westminster label and is quite good. Singers include Pierrette Alarie, Nan Merriman, Leopold Simoneau, and Gustav Neidlinger (famous for his Alberich is Solti's Ring cycle). Best wishes, Paul Rincon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Vintage dress
I like the seller's alias. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Ms Lisa Honeycutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make-up artist in Nashville continued to ask me to wear lipstick for TV recordings. We discussed the ramifications of Lipstick, a mouthpiece, the possibility of looking like a clown after a few tunes.. We carried on lipstick free. Lisa ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] New York Phil Opening Night, R rated review, D minor Dvorak
Is there too loud playing by the brass section in this symphony? NO. They absolutely destroyed and dominated this piece. Yep. Sounds like the NY Philharmonic from your description... Paul Rincon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Highest note
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but isn't Haydn Nr. 51 the highest symphony written by Haydn? It 'only' goes up to an F in the minuet. Do you mean the Hornsignal symphony when you say Haydn Nr. 39? If so, it is Symphony Nr. 31. Best wishes, Paul Rincon On 5/30/07, justin ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two recordings besides london horn sound of people hitting the A above high C. One is the american horn quartet playing Haydn 39. The other is on audition improbable, in the practice tape track, I think it is the loudest A I have heard. Robson Adabo de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Guys I love the repertoire written for corno da caccia and I know that this repertoire was recorded by both horn players and trumpet players. I would like to know what's the highest note recorded by a horn player? I know that some of that pieces are really high, like Zelenka Capricci, Bach Cantatas, Neruda...But what's the the highest piece? Thank you very much Robson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/kernellenrek%40yahoo.com - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a
The aria is the Va tacito e nascosto from Handel's Giulio Cesare. Best wishes, Paul On 5/26/07, Alon reuven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me , the sound in julius cezar was fine and fitted well the style . We play broque music quite often , and untill recently I used to play on a double descant in all of the cantatas or any other hair lifting stuff . I think that with the right preperation you can get very nice tone out of allmost every thing if you follow your Image and ear , instead of following the tubing . the problem starts when one trys not to take any risks , or on the other and , when one is becoming a tubing freak . By the way ,Hans , can you please remind me this Aria's name ? Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable?
Schmid Triple (High Eb), Lawson Fourier, and I believe a Hoyer, respectively. Paul Rincon On 4/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know what Myers, Betts and Bloom now play? Would be interested to know. Ron ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] tenor
Maybe this will satisfy your hunger? http://www.angelfire.com/ult/caquino/ Some wonderfully expressive and musical trumpet playing...listen for yourself! The Hummel is especially tasty, as is the Peer Gynt. Enjoy! Paul Rincon On 1/7/07, rob schmidtke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want more more more. I love FFJ her voice is so .. diffused. I remember hearing a trumpet player doing a similar bang up job on the Hummel concerto. Dare I ask if there are any equally gifted Horn players out there. Plaese post links if you have them. Rob Schmidtke Klaus Bjerre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- hans wrote: Go visit the following site to get your surprise: www.tenor.dk There are a lot folks out - without any self critic. This is sad! Even more so as this guy is born in and lives in the town, where I lived, when we moved back to Denmark in 1958. I lived there until I took, what the Germans call Arbitur in 1966. My very old father still lives there in the same house. He has organised a lot of concerts over the years, but it is too late night right now to phone him and ask him about this impostor. This guy must be around my age, but I never heard of him, even if we were in the same town at the same time. And even if I was in the best of two bands and in the only (small) orchestra. The town of Holbæk was rather small back then, which is no longer the case, as it has developed into a housing area for Copenhagen. In 1990-91 I returned as 4th horn in a really large musical project. That man certainly was not asked to sing there. Holbæk used to be the home of another impostor, which is far more dangerous, because he is our minister of culture. Sadly sports belong to that department, and that is the only part of his portfolio, which that man has any idea about. Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Mahler 2 Laserdisc
Hello, I recently viewed the Mahler symphony nr. 2 Laserdisc with Leonard Bernstein and the London Symphony Orchestra. Would any list members happen to know who the horn players are in that particular recording? It is an Edinburgh festival recording. I believe the Laserdisc recording is the same performance as the newly-issued DVD set. Best wishes, Paul Rincon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Gliere Concerto
I recommend Marie-Luise Neunecker's recording with the Bamberg Symphony Orchestra. It is my ideal in terms of sound and phrasing. Another good recording is with Richard Watkins; very smooth playing (ideal for the Gliere Concerto). Best of luck, Paul Rincon On 9/24/06, Robert Osmun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll second Dan Phillips reccomendation: Eric Ruske's recording ( http://store.osmun.com/browse.cfm/2,106.html ) is just great! Bob Osmun www.osmun.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathew James Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:36 PM To: horn list Subject: [Hornlist] Gliere Concerto Hey list. I am preparing the Gliere Concerto for a concerto competition. And am wondering on suggestions for good recordings, I have the Buamann recording and am wondering on some others to add. -- Mathew James ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rosmun%40osmun.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Sarre chamber orchestra - Konzertstuck
I believe it was Indiana Universitie's Myron Bloom who worked in France (Orchestre de Paris) and attempted to make the French adopt the big Conn 8-D horns and sound concept. Before Myron Bloom entered the scen; it was common to see ascending horns and hear a much more 'nationalistic' sound. Now (like in many other places), one hears only the same sound (few exceptions, Vienna, Russian Orchestras, some Eastern European orchestras) Paul Rincon On 12/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 29/12/2005 09:50:15 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . And lost almost all the special character of the French School of Horn Playing . Yes, exactly, All the best, Lawrence þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg _http://lawrenceyates.co.uk_ (http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/) Dulcian Wind Quintet: _http://dulcianwind.co.uk_ ( http://dulcianwind.co.uk/) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound
I don't believe that anyone in the Vienna Philharmonic uses a triple horn. A double horn; perhaps for the extreme pieces such as Sinfonia Domestica and such maybe. Hans would know. I DO know that Gottfried von Freiberg played a Paxman F/F-Alto descant on the last recording he made (Midsummer Night's Dream) with Pierre Monteaux. He also used the same horn for a recording of the Weber Concertino. I have also heard of Wolfgang Tomboeck using an Alex F/F-alto when performing long call in concert. However, for the most part; the single F Pumpenhorn is the most widely used instrument in the Vienna Philharmonic. Also, in the Vienna philharmonic; Viennese oboes, rotary trumpets, and goat skin timpani are used - all of that comes together to form the sound that we know and love from the VPO. Paul Rincon On 12/29/05, Jerry Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Gelfo wrote: Also, I'm curious how they pull of things like the low E in the 4th mvt of Shostakovich 5, which cannot be played on F horn (I guess maybe sort of you could bend down pedal F# with F123, but that would be treacherous to attack an out-of-the-blue piano low E with that fingering) Anybody know more about this? No, but don't forget the right hand can be used to affect pitch as well. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Howard Hanson Symphony #2- Romantic
There is actually a CD recording under the Mercury label of that same piece. Could have saved the trouble of transferring it and with much better quality as well. Yes, few people outside of the USA know the piece - and it really is a gem. Also good (and included on the same CD reissue) is the Song of Democracy and hist first symphony. You can hear part of the Romantic at the end of the first Alien movie. Paul Rincon On 12/26/05, jim thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just transferred from 'record' to cd a recording of Howard Hanson's Symphony #2 Op. 30 - Romantic, done by the Eastman-Rochester Orchestra, conducted by Howard Hanson. Interesting I find that we hear so little about that piece of music when it's so filled with horn and such a 'stirring' 3 movements. Jim ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] descant horn
Giulio Ceasare - Handel Bach Cantatas such as Gott, der Herr, ist Sonn und Schild Baroque Horn Concerti such as the Knechtl Brandenburg nr. 1, Bach B minor mass... Those are just a few - of course there's more works - but those are the ones I can think off at the moment! Paul R. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: [Hornlist] descant horn Could someone tell me what works(general and maybe specific) descant horns are used on, assuming one's not using a triple. Thanks, Ron ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/dennisbrainchild%40earthlink.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Scam...:(
Question for item #7333631683 - Atkinson nickel silver double french horn NRHello I am teresa willoe from califonia. i am intrested in purchasing this Goods please kindly get back to me with condition of the item and i can only raise a certified cashier check for the mode of payment you do not need to worry about the shipping process in adiition i am using my shipping compnay that i have been using for the past 5years is a trust and honest shipping company, i am presently in canada and i will order my my personal accountant to issue the payment plus the shipping company fees. please i will also like to ask you if you ?? will be able to cash the cheque on your behalf and immediatly dedut your iterm fees and wire the shipping company fees Please if you do accept with my option and you will be able to do as agreed. get back to me with your phone numberand full name and address to be use for the issuement of the cheque in accordance. sighs Skeptically, Paul R. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] CYSO Audition
I feel as though you do not understand the whole point of Hans' 'diatribe'. It was not an attempt to discredit you, but to merely make you reexamine the purpose of your audition. If you audition solely on the basis of 'hitting the right notes' well, that is a good start but will not do very well further down the road; I can guarrantee you that. Hans is a very kind and warm person; not the monster many of you make him out to be; and to be honest, I would prefer honest criticism that may hurt at first, but ultimately prove beneficial. You will get nowhere with this sugarcoating - something I have noticed to be extremely prevalent (especially in the USA) ever since I have lived here. I congradulate you on your achievements; I am sure you will be a very fine horn player - but keep in mind that before you discredit someone with infinitely more experience than yourself (and myself included). Warmest regards, Paul R. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: [Hornlist] CYSO Audition Dear List, Remember when I was nervous about my Chicago Youth Orchestra audition back in March, well I made it into the program. I made the Chicago Youth Concert Orchestra. I almost didn't go to the audition because Hans Pizka put me down so badly, but I did well and I made it. I hit every note in the Strauss Op. 11. I felt great when I left the audition site. If I would have listened to Hans then I would have missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime. Well I just thought that I would let the list know that my audition went okay. Thanks for all of your pointers and help before my audition. Your Hornliness, James Woods ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/dennisbrainchild%40earthlink.n et ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] CYSO Audition
Question: Did you make the youth symphony orchestra or the concert orchestra? Paul R. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: [Hornlist] CYSO Audition Dear List, Remember when I was nervous about my Chicago Youth Orchestra audition back in March, well I made it into the program. I made the Chicago Youth Concert Orchestra. I almost didn't go to the audition because Hans Pizka put me down so badly, but I did well and I made it. I hit every note in the Strauss Op. 11. I felt great when I left the audition site. If I would have listened to Hans then I would have missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime. Well I just thought that I would let the list know that my audition went okay. Thanks for all of your pointers and help before my audition. Your Hornliness, James Woods ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/dennisbrainchild%40earthlink.n et ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Alexander Horn restoration
Hello! I am considering several shops to restore an Alexander 103 I found at a local middle school, any experiences (both positive and negative) with these shops would be very helpful in determining where to send it to. The shops I am considering are: Osmun Lawson Ken Pope repair and Dan Oberloh wind repair up in Seattle If any of you can recommend shop and give me your experiences with them, I would be most grateful. Thanks Paul R. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Wagner tuba question
Off the top of my head, I only know of the following: Bruckner Symphonies Nr. 7,8,9 Wagner RING Cycle Strauss: Elektra Stravinsky: Rite of Spring Especially beautiful are the Wagner Tuba quartets in the 8th (3rd mvmt) symphony by Bruckner...heard it on DVD with Pierre Boulez and Vienna Phil. Utterly delicious I must say... - Original Message - From: Liz Sievert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Wagner tuba question I am in search of a list of all of the repertoire that uses Wagner tubas. Do you have any information on this? Thanks! Liz Sievert __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/dennisbrainchild%40earthlink.n et ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pizka Classic
I can attest to the quality of the instruments being offered. I bought exactly 11 months ago, and have been nothing but impressed with the instrument. If you appreciate the sound of a smaller, lighter instrument (but can open up when needed!) this is just the instrument for you. As Siskel and Roper would say - Two thumbs up! Paul R. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:20 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Pizka Classic Two of my fine double horns are available. For more informations visit www.pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm or email privately. Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136 D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548 home: www.pizka.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/dennisbrainchild%40earthlink.n et ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Differences between Ganter and Pizka classic
Hello, Does anyone know the main differences (besides the name) of a Ganter horn and a Pizka classic? Mr. Crenshaw and I discussed one of them, the fact that taper on the HeGa is backwards on the main tuning slide. But what other differences exist between the two? You might want to check out http://hornplayer.net/forsale/f4393.html as well as http://hornplayer.net/forsale/f4393.html if you just want to see what they look like. On another note, what is the reason for having a cylindrical tubing section on the horn? I know the valve slides would have to be cylindrical for obvious reasons, but what about the F/Bb branches? If the valve ports were cut just slightly different for each of the valves, would it not be feasible to build a horn with the taper continuing throughout the entire F/Bb side? Thank you all very much, Paul R. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Past horn list postings
Hello, hornlisters! This is perhaps an unusual request, but here goes: I want to read every posting ever made on the horn list (I subscribed 9/24/2003) and I wish to perhaps...revisit some of the older threads. If anybody can perhaps save the horn list folder on their outlook and maybe compress it (winrar/winAce) and email it to me privately, I would be most appreciative. It would be a most entertaining read, as the horn-list usually is chock-full of amusing little anecdotes as well as informative horn related information! Anyways, to all, a very safe and merry holiday season! Sincerely, Paul R. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Double Concerto
Howdy y'all! My friend and I are looking to play a double concerto for an end of the year recital, and we're currently looking for some suggestions. I was thinking one of the vivaldi ones (not the one that goes up to e3 or anything like that), but one of the tame vivaldi concertos. What pieces do you recommend? (hopefully nothing modern/contemporary) Something of high difficulty would be no problem (with range hopefully not exceeding c3-d3 at the most) Thank you, Paul Rincon ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Reinhardt Concerto
Hello, Does anyone on the list know where I can acquire the Reinhardt concerto for horn in Eb major? I have emailed the [EMAIL PROTECTED] but he has yet to respond, Mr. Thompson, would you happen to have a copy of it? I would be interested as to what you fellow hornlisters have to say about it. Thank you, Paul R. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Bach Cello Suites
Hello! Does anyone on the list know the differences between the Wendell Hoss Transcriptions of the Cello Suites and those by Francis Orval? There is a 15.00 dollar price difference...is it justified? Thank you, Paul R. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Experiences at Oberlin
Hello! My name is Paul rincon, I am a senior at Lake Brantley High School in Altamonte Springs, Florida (Near orlando). I'm going to apply to audition at Oberlin conservatory the 4th of december, has anyone on the list had experience with the faculty at oberlin, or know of anyone who has? I have heard nothing but the best about the horn Professor (Roland Pandolfi), but some inside info on oberlin as a whole would be wonderful! Thank you, Paul R. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] 8 Bayreuther Festspieler Hornisten
I recently won this CD off an ebay auction and received it today...what an amazing CD it is! 8 Bayreuther Festspiel-Hornisten: G. Seifert, M. Klier, S. Machata, K. Markowski, B. Garbage, G. Fritzsche, K. Schneider, J. Schreder (hns) They are playing Fantasies to: Lohengrin, Rheingold, Siegfried, and Tristan und Isolde. (all by Karl Stiegler with the exception of Rheingold Fantasie by Manfred Klier) I encourage every single horn player to try to obtain this CD, it has some truly wonderful playing (especially the low range) flawless intonation, and beautiful musicality. Yours truly, Paul R. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] BSO-Bruckner 4
Did anyone here attend the Baltimore Symphony's performance of Bruckner 4? It was by far one of the best I have ever heard, and the Beethoven piano concerto was very well played as well. Phil Munds played beautifully - as does the rest of the brass section, it is basically a huge torrent of sound. I think the Baltimore Symphony is a relatively underrated orchestra (as compared to Cincinnatti, cleveland, boston, etc) and I just want to congratulate those who might be involved in the BSO - bravo to you all! Paul R. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Pizka Classic Double Horn
Hello fellow Horners! My name is Paul Rincon, I am a soon to be Senior at Lake Brantley High school. I've been studying horn with my teacher Mr. William C. Robinson for about 5 1/2 years now (some of you on the list might know/studied with him). Anyways! As an early graduation Present, my parents decided to buy me a new french horn, as my old one (a 22 year old yamaha with a Lawson leadpipe) was in a not very good condition, and it was certainly not my style of horn. So of course, I began to look at all of the usual suspects, Elkhart Conn's, The new Yamahas, Alex, Schmid, Paxman, Finke, etcetera. However, one caught my eye, it was the Pizka Classic double horn ( http://pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm ) I then proceeded to contact professor Pizka himself, and over a period of 3-4 weeks and bouncing emails back and forth, It was decided that I would receive a Pizka Classic double with the Gold brass leadpipe. I received it 4 days ago...let me just say; that it is the most incredible instrument I have ever played (Including my teacher's 1942 Geyer) The response is extremely fast, the tone shiny, and the most beautiful decorations I have ever seen on an instrument. It is truly a work of art, impossible to overblow (due to the Kranz) and has a very carrying Pianissimo. In few words, I love it. I encourage you to keep his horns in mind if you are of the sort who likes the Viennese sound, the smaller instruments, but the finesse and agility of one. I have found Prof. Pizka a pleasure to deal with, and he has answered all of my questions and concerns promptly. I highly recommend the Pizka Classic. Paul R. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
