[Hornlist] RE: Health Care
William G offered this comment on Health Care Conductor induced head injuries? Horn players that walk off stage after some particularly stoopid comment from a conductor and beat their head against the wall to gain some relief, thus incurring additional injury? Again, I hope you will discuss this elsewhere, and not on the horn list. Luckily, this topic has beed addressed extensively on the Concert Hall Architecture list. The recent spate of concert hall collapses has convinced architects of the need to reinforce stress- bearing walls backstage. This was a major factor in the recent redesign of Carnegie Hall in NYC. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Alphorn needed: SF Bay area
Hey, List: Does anyone in the San Francisco Bay area have an alphorn I could borrow/rent for the weekend of August 1? The alphorn I had intended to use has decided to take a trip out of town. If you can help, or if you want to flood my inbox with gratuitous insults, contact me off-list. Thanks. Gotta go, Cabbage horncabbage(a)aol.com ** Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove0003) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
My Concerto for Brass Trio and Orchestra starts with a wood block solo. And my Concertini for Toy Piano and Orchestra starts with a cello solo. Gotta go, Cabbage ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823281x1201398699/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp; hmpgID=62amp;bcd=JunestepsfooterNO62) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Brass safety
Lawrence Y offered: My dad worked in factory governed by similar health and safety regulations - the had to wear face-masks and special clothing. On the days the inspectors came the masks and clothes were taken out of the cupboard and the workers put them on. As soon as the inspectors left, they were all put back in the cupboard until next time. * This clearly explains why none of the cupboards suffered the ill effects of lead poisoning. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222031056x1201446063/aol?redir=http:%2F%2 Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215910283%3B38350812%3Ba) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Aging hornists
Martin B offered praise of Laurence Y, writing Dear Lawrence, I appreciate you... in fact, my appreciation is immeasurable; regretfully, I was unable to put a dollar figure to it ;-). * I think the word that best expresses the full extent of our appreciation of Lawrence is invaluable, Martin. Gotta go, Cabbage ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377034x1201454326/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp; hmpgID=62amp;bcd=MaystepsfooterNO62) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Metronomes, usw
Hans P wrote Gustav Mahler was probably the first using many between metronomes and the between dynamics and the exaggerated expression, probably so to produce unnecessary kitsch like bad anti-tasty posters. But I do not think, he meant that. Or does this exaggeration come by the reproducing conductors musicians ??? *** Georg Ligiti, following in Mahler's footsteps, used many between metronomes. Most of them were between other metronomes. However, this does not produce unnecessary kitsch, but vitally necessary kitsch. http://nadanientenadaniente.blogspot.com/2008/11/gyrgy-ligeti-pome-symphonique-for-100.html I'm not sure what you mean by an anti-tasty poster. If that's an accusation, I deny it. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cabbage in Boston
Professor Cabbage will be visiting Boston the weekend of May 2 and 3. He has graciously accepted numerous requests not to speak on the physics of music. He will bring his horn to a concert by Cantilena, a women's chorus which is performing in Arlington Sunday evening, May 3. The concert includes three of his works: Music of the Spheres for women's chorus, horn, and piano; So we'll go no more a roving for women's chorus, flute, horn, and piano; and The Caged Bird Sings of Freedom, which lacks a horn part. He will also play horn in the premier of The Splendor Falls by Kenneth Seitz, Cantilena's music director. This piece is for women's chorus and solo horn. For more information this concert, visit http://www.cantilena.org/ Gotta go, Cabbage ** The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421330x1201417418/aol?redi r=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=AprilAvgfooter424NO62) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven 4, B-flat alto or basso?
Lawrence Y wrote Success Carl! (You haven't changed continent just to send us a message have you?) *** No, Lawrence, Carl is still home, as in continent as ever. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Rare horn piece to be performed
Loren M writes It seems that 2-letter abbreviations work for state and country abbreviations, 3-letter abbreviations are sufficient worldwide for baggage claim tickets, but orchestras need 4-letter abbreviations. That is why my orchestra is abbreviated SASO (Southern Arizona Symphony Orchestra). You might think symphony and orchestra are redundant words but it makes our abbreviation necessary and unique. * This also explains why you are much less likely to lose your baggage at an orchestra concert, despite the lamentable absence of overhead bins. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Finding long lost horns
Ken P wrote: I was talking with a friend of mine who plays in the Cincinnati = Symphony, and listening to him describe the best horn he ever let go... = (a Paxman descant) - and suddenly realized that I had his 'lost love' of a horn in my shop currently for sale! He was very = excited and had me send it right out to him. Ultimately, he said it was like an Ex Girlfriend saying that: 'over the = years, he only remembered the good aspects of it, and had forgotten why = he got rid of it in the first place' ;) In the end.. he sent it back!=20 Nice story, Ken, but you forgot to tell us whether he sent the ex-girlfriend back too. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cabbage on the Road
During the next two weeks, list members will enjoy two opportunities to miss Professor Cabbage deliver his overly familiar talk on the physics of brass musical instruments. The first will be this Wednesday evening, March 25, in San Marcos, California, wherever that is. Then on Friday, April 3, the Cruciferous One will bring his road show to Shasta College in Redding, California, wherever that is. If, by some unlucky chance, you are only able to miss one of these talks, then the one in San Marcos would be a good choice, since the Peripatetic One will not be performing on natural horn at Shasta College. Details, including escape maps and lists of excuses, may be found at the following sites: http://www.csusm.edu/communications/articles/PhysicsBrassMusical.html http://www.newmediatoolkit.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=article; id=48:holmesbiocatid=34:biosItemid=54 Gotta go, Cabbage ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219858252x1201366219/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%2 6hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Chou sur la rue
Prof Cabbage will take his road show up the Peninsula to speak on the physics of brass instruments at Stanford's Center for Research in Music and Acoustics (CCRMA) at 1PM, Friday, Feb 27. Uninterested parties will also be able to miss talks he will be giving on Wednesday, March 25, at Cal State San Marcos, and Sunday, March 29 in San Jose. If anyone on the horn list is attending next week's convention of the American Choral Directors Association in Oklahoma City, they will be delighted to learn that the Prof has not been invited to speak, although he will attend to hear the National high school honors chorus will perform one of his compositions. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Concert Announcement - SF Bay area
7 PM Wednesday February 11 Mt View Performing Art Center Valentine from Quadre and Friends The horn quartet Quadre will be joined by a flute quartet Aeron, flute soloist Molly Barth, and choruses from two local high schools and two middle schools for a concert of new music. Two of the pieces are mine, arranged for the occasion. (Normally, I wouldn't consider scoring for bass flute!) The pieces are Pie Jesu, which combines a poem of Emily Dickinson with a familiar Latin text; and Music of the Spheres, a setting of a passage from Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice. Here is a web site offering more information. I suggest you order tickets. Tell 'em the Cabbage sent you. http://www.artsopolis.com/event/detail/44395/media_reviews gotta go, Cabbage ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%2 6bcd=febemailfooterNO62) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Prepare for the unexpected
Kjellrun H wrote: Good advice. I remember a teacher I had as a kid preparing me for a recital. As I played, he wandered around the room, knocking over trash cans, dropping books, etc. * My teacher did this too. As a result, my horn playing is so intensely focussed that I can knock trash cans over and set books flying without leaving my chair. Gotta go, Cabbage ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Auf dem strom etc.
Steve B wrote I seem to remember in one of the Radio Lab stories a mention of how many of= the great composers had perfect pitch (and what of synethsesia?). * I don't know if this is the program you mean, but Radio Lab ran a fascinating piece involving absolute pitch. Evidently those who speak tone languages like Chinese can develop absolute pitch much more easily than the rest of us. http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2007/09/25 I remember hearing that Alexander Glazunov had absolute pitch. But he learned his absolute pitch when he was young. When he was older, concert pitch had risen. When he conducted, he complained because of the clash between the pitch he was hearing in the score and the pitch he was hearing from the orchestra. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Auf dem strom und drang
Hans P wrote: That´s the reason, why I published Auf dem Strom in E, Eb, D C Then Dan H wrote: That's good, Hans, I should have ordered it from you. Do you think Schubert would mind all these different keys? Why did he pick E? There are supposed to be certain moods associated with certain keys, but I've never really believed that when it comes to horn playing. Now I write: He picked E because this is a bright, happy key. E flat, however, is sad and wistful, while D major is dark and gloomy. You may adjust the key to suit your mood. If the singer is feeling happy, while you are feeling sad, and the pianist is feeling gloomy, the audience will be in for a performance offering a rich variety of emotional nuances. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp; icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Introducing Amahl
Hans P wrote about Amahl and the Night Visitors: Hello Howard, just play the low D very soft. There will not be any difference. ... At this low note low dynamic there is no distinction in the sound. The composer either wanted it very soft or did use the con sord. markings only, because it exists (composers often use certain markings, because they are possible. If it makes sense or not, that´s not a question for them !!!) * Ich hoffe that you attention paying are, Howard. After all, Hans hat den Long Call over zwei hundert times gespielt, einschließlich drei times in Amahl, so knows he whereof er spricht. Muss gehn, Kohl ** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp; ncid=emlcntaolcom0002) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Transposable Parts for Haydn Trumpet Concerto
Steve F wrote: I just played through the Haydn trumpet concerto's slow movement up a step, in concert Bb, and think it sits really nicely for me on the horn now. I'm playing the entire concerto accompanying my son and it would be a real hoot for me to play it on the horn, but I need the music, in concert Bb and not concert Ab, in a piano reduction for my wife. I don't need a horn part as I'm OK reading it from what I've got. *** Sorry, Steve, you should have considered this before you decided to marry a non-transposing wife. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp; ncid=emlcntaolcom0002) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Brahms Trio, Op. 40
Lawrence Y wrote: It's for horn, violin and piano and it's hard! (for all three players) Last time I played it we had a cellist in tow to play trios in the rest of the programme. If you play have similar forces and want an encore I have an arrangement (very corny) of the Brahms Lullaby for horn, piano, violin and cello. Not a dry eye in the house. * If instead you have a tenor or a soprano around (maybe you did Auf dem Strom earlier in the program) you should perform my composition HIGGINS IS GONE. It's for high voice, violin, horn, and piano. Based on an amusing poem by Donald Justice. Thompson Edition publishes it: http://www.thompsonedition.com/product_detail.php?id=40683 There won't be a dry seat in the house. Just went, Cabbage ** One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin =new-dp%26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Brahms Trio Op, 40
Robert D wrote: Brahms did play horn a bit His posthumous horn etudes are interesting too by the way, I've been playing them a bit lately for curiousity. * I looked these over and decided not to play them until after I'm dead, as Brahms intended. Not gone yet, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Richard Merewether's 'The Horn... the Horn'
Jesse W wondered: I am having no success finding this book. Does anyone know if it is still in print or where I could find a copy? Thanks in advance. ** Osmun has about half this book on line at his web site. We need to encourage him to put up the other half. http://www.osmun.com/reference/the_horn/thehorntofc.htm Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news amp; more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=http://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cabbage Music: Bring out your dead
List members are sure to be anxious to miss the premier of the latest composition of Prof. Cabbage: Amherst Requiem, an hour-long ditty for soprano solo, chorus, children's chorus, and large orchestra. (The piece contains the usual Latin mass for the dead, plus nine poems of Emily Dickinson, who lived in Amherst, Mass.) It will be performed at Stanford University on Friday Nov 21 and Sunday Nov 23. Those of you who are unable to miss the piece are invited to contact me off-list so I can offer condolences as well as information about how to obtain tickets. Or visit http://www.peninsulasymphony.org/ Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news amp; more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=http://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Atterberg Sonata Op.27
Lawrence Y wondered Would anyone like to offer an opinion as to whether the horn parts in the Brahms Violin Concerto should be played on valved or natural horns. *** Yes, they should. Gotta go, Cabbage ** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holida ys-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: How to convince others
Steve H wrote The pp of Tchaikovsky could seem to be a request to play at a level outside the usual frame of orchstral dynamics, so that the listener will hear the extreme piano as something that an orchestra would not normally do, outside the reference scale of what has been heard elsewhere in the symphony. * Actually, Steve, recent scholarship reveals that Tchaikovsky often stuttered. Let this insight guide your future performances of any note marked pp, or, for that matter, ff. Gotta go, Cabbbage ** Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav0 001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] more specific than Re: Contents of Horn digest...
Steve F wrote Today's fun with ear-training and your French Horn: Take a simple duet - mine was #4 from the Pottag, Book 1 - and sit down at the piano with your horn in your lap. Top Part: Play on the piano with your right hand. Bottom Part: Play on your horn, balanced however you can (I had to cross my legs) in your lap. I used a single horn - weighs less, easier to balance. Of course, you must either play the piano part at concert pitch (my choice) or read Horn in C, but not both, please. :) And don't worry if the horn notes are a little sharp - that's life, lip it or leave it. Enjoy. PS: for Cabbage, wiggle your ears whenever the notes F, A, C or E are sounded in either part. :) ** F? why F? I favor the notes ABCEG myself. Don't need no stinkin' F. I find that a rolled up newspaper comes in very handy for ear training. Long ago, whenever my ears make an ordorous, unsightly mess on the floor, I would swat them with the newspaper, exclaiming, Bad ears! Bad ears! By now, of course, my ears are perfectly trained, exhibiting not only perfect pitch, but absolute volume. Good ears. ** ** Richard V. W. Wrote Isn't concert pitch=C? Then it's an either-or situation isn't it? You EITHER transpose piano to F, OR transpose horn to C, right? Richard in Seattle Steve Freides wrote: Of course, you must either play the piano part at concert pitch (my choice) or read Horn in C, but not both, please. :) And don't worry if the horn notes are a little sharp - that's life, lip it or leave it. *** Why bother transposing the piano? Just stick an F crook in it, and voila! Gotta go, CABBAGE ** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News amp; more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Programs and mutes
Leonard Peggy B wrote I just came across an old program. Anyone wish to guess where this was? The artists are listed as: Anton Horner Arthur Berv James Chambers Phil Farkas Carl Geyer John Barrows Wendell Hoss Max Pottag and Barry Tuckwell * It was probably in the bottom of a box under a work bench in your garage, next to a bottle of weed killer, if your storage is as effective as mine is. ** ** Kerri B asked I'm playing horn for a musical production of Sondheim's Into the Woods. There is some stopped horn in the music labeled appropriately but also some lines with the indication mute. But would this be straight mute? Stopped? I don't know if mute is just assumed to be straight. And Lawrence Y replied I used a straight mute (the only one I've got) *** I used a cone-shaped mute, the only one that fits. Gotta go, Cabbage ** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News amp; more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Effects in Debussy Afternoon of a Fawn Fawn of a Fawn Beethoven
Michiel vdL wrote Actually en dehors means just the opposite. It means bring out, emphasize. No need to mute, but quite the opposite. So I stick the wide end of my mute into the bell? Cool! and Peter H wrote We are talking a satyr-like creature and not Bambi here (Cabbage, can you help me out on this). * Sorry, Pete, I can't help.My specialty is satire.Too bad. Gotta go, Cabbage ** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News amp; more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Flutter-tonguing
Loren M wrote nobody has been able to teach me to curl my tongue. Can't do it. No way. Nor can I wiggle my ears, but my dad can. * Tell us, Loren, exactly how does your dad wiggle your ears? Gotta go, Cabbage ** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News amp; more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Fracks, Splits, and Critics
John S wrote Knowing what pitch one plays before doing so really helps increase one's accuracy. Arnold Jacobs said that his seven years of solgege at Curtis was his most valuable music course. Eldon's comments on focus are dead on. How true, John! I never went to Curtis, but thanks to the impressive focus I acquired during my many decades in graduate school, I never miss notes and never missmell words. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000307 ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] What Valerie didn't like
Valerie wrote I didn't like the noise of 300 horn players playing every excerpt they knew triple forte on every horn they picked up. Shish, what a headache! Yes, Valerie. Now try to imagine what it must be like to be an exhibitor, required to sit by your table all week, thus missing all the great horn playing by featured hornists, with nothng to listen to except all those horn players having high C contests with each other. Gotta stay home, Cabbage ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Best PHCMP
Chris T wrote Getting a new mouthpiece cold turkey can be a daunting experience especially if you don't readily have access to a plethora of different pieces. Too daunting for me, Chris. Though I admit that cold turkey feels nice and comfy on the lips, these mouthpieces don't last very long, even if you refrigerate them between uses. Call me old fashioned, but I still favor brass. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Der Hornwache Nachtlied
Hans P wrote Rehearsing a Mahler part at 1 am seems to be insane anyway. People doing this should better stay in a home for mentally disturbed. Why aren´t they able to organize their time (practise) during normal hours not after mid-night ??? * Sorry Hans, but we were busy during normal hours, we had to rehearse Wozzeck all morning, Meistersinger all afternoon, and Gurre-lieder the whole evening. So 1 AM was the only time we could fit in the Mahler. And we couldn't do it at the home for mentally disturbed: they were already rehearsing Moses and Aaron and Hello, Dolly! gotta go, Cabbage gotta go, Cabbage ** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Acoustics
Jeremy C gave us advice about how to improve the acoustics of your practice room. 1 - do not use egg-cartons. They won't work. They don't work. 2 - don't just buy any old sound foam. Not all sound foams are made equally. If you think it's dramatically cheaper than any of the brands I listed above, be suspect. 3 - NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER use egg-crate, bedding, or sofa foam. All of these foams are actually quite flammable (some worse than others) and they don't do a great job anyway at acoustical treatment. One errant spark though, and your whole house will go up in smoke. ** I had trouble with egg cartons too, Jeremy, until I discovered that they are much easier to nail to the wall once you remove the eggs. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 65, Issue 31
Steve F wrote: Please forgive a remark which might be seen by some as off-color, but I expect Cabbage to tell us he played with himself --- meaning with a mouthpiece made of cabbage, of course. * I recently gave my physics of music talk at a local middle school. I concluded with a performance of the first movement of the Beethoven Sonata, played on natural horn. (Hint: never play the Beethoven Sonata for middle school students.) During the QA, one of the students wondered what it was like playing with a mustache. I told her that I really enjoy playing with my mustache, but that I enjoy playing horn even more. Another student wondered why I kept twirling my horn around during the rests. To remove the condensation, I replied. But what would happen if you left the condensation in the horn, he persisted. It greatly affects the tone quality, I said. I invited this student to investigate this scientifically by pouring a glass of water into the bell of my horn. Then he held his ear very close to the bell as I blew very hard. Everyone was satisfied by the outcome of this demonstration, particularly his teacher. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4amp; ?NCID=aolfod000302) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] A strange disappearance
David M wrote The other day I went to update my page on the hornplayer.net teacher's l= isting. I updated the material and clicked 'submit'. Ever since then m= y listing has disappeared, and it not visible. I checked to see if my a= ccount was still active, and it is - I even see the new material I put u= p when I click on 'edit listing.' But I don't see myself on = http://hornplayer.net/teachers.asp?country=3DUSA = I am writing to ask if anyone else has experienced this. Is there a few= day's lag on updating accounts? Thanks, = *** If this doesn't clear up in a day or so, you might try looking in a mirror. It could be that you have disappeared, rather than the listing. This happened to me once. Luckily, I was able to push my reset button, and things got back to normal after I rebooted. You're welcome. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4amp;?NCID=aolfod000302) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Mouthpiece scratch
Hans Pizka wrote Next time somebody might ask, if a black dress is better suited to produce a darker sound than a greydress ??? No end for curiosity. * So, Hans, tell us, which did you prefer to wear while playing the Long Call? Gotta go, Cabbage ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cabbage on the Road - Southern California
Professor Cabbage will once again take his show on the road, sharing with the general populace his expertise on the physics of brass musical instruments. The talk is at 4PM Friday, May 2. The place is the Department of Physics at Cal Poly Pomona. There are a couple of effective ways to miss this talk. The first would be to appear at the wrong time, say next Fall. The second would be to show up at the Physics Department at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo instead. Various combinations of these two methods should also prove worthwhile. Those who find it impossible to miss the talk will be relieved to learn that the Professor has agreed not to perform any musical selections on natural horn. Whether he will also agree not to perform any unmusical selections is somewhat uncertain. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Not horn related
Three chorus pieces of mine have just been published by William Thorpe. None has a horn in it; but if any hornlisters are connected with a suitable chorus, I would be glad to send copies free. A Christmas Lullaby, Treble chorus (SA) and piano Poem: Eleanor Farjeon I shall keep singing!, Treble chorus (SSA) and harp (or piano). Poem: Emily Dickinson Carol of the Field Mice, Mixed chorus a capella Poem: Kenneth Grahame (from Wind in the Willows) You can get more information and admire my mustache at http://www.thorpemusic.com/holmes01.html Gotta go, Cabbage ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Mumbledy Chou
Larry J wrote Thanks, Cabbage, for sharing your son's musical success with us. His innovative use of the horn in a rock band is worth listening to. Again, the site: http://www.myspace.com/themumlers Listen to the piece, Red River Hustle, to hear how the horn eases into the mood of the song. The word, mumler doesn't exist in the dictionary, so, anyone know what it means? * You're welcome. William Mumler was a photographer in 1860's 1870's. He invented the double exposure. This enabled him to photograph spirit auras. P.T. Barnum testified against Mumler when he was sued for fraud. But the judge dismissed the charges, claiming there was too little evidence to prove a negative. Or a false negative. Google on Mumler's name to find some of his images. Gotta go, le grand chou ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Lessons
Jeremy H wrote Dear folks, I am going away Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. I have posted a sheet with slots for half-hour lessons tomorrow. Please try to find a slot that will work for you. * Hey Jeremy! I am on the road too, so I cannot attend any lessons. Please sign me up for next Wednesday at 3PM. That's the best time for me to miss. If that isn't convenient for you, the next day at 3:30 is almost as good. I wish you offered lessons on-line. Then they could be an hour long, instead of a half hour. Plus on-line lessons are so much more practical to miss than lessons in person. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] le jeune chou
I bought a Schmid horn for my son, a younger Cabbage, when he was a horn major. When he switched to Creative Arts, I grabbed the Schmid, and he ended up with my Yamaha. His rock band, the Mumlers, was signed by an independent label. They released their first CD recently. You can hear his band, and my old Yamaha, here: http://www.myspace.com/themumlers You can also hear him whistling, playing guitar, and keyboards. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Chicken or egg
Ron wondered: When Mozart and Strauss wrote their horn concertos, did the orchestrations or the piano parts come first. How did the composers write it down and did someone else later condense the orchestration to piano or orchestrate the piano part? How did it evolve? ** Hey Ron, you should get ahold of a copy of Hans Pizka's book Das Horn bei Mozart. It reproduces most of the surviving manuscripts of the horn concerti. (I think it was published before the rediscovery of the missing pages of the Concert Rondo.) It is interesting to look at the manuscripts to figure out what Mozart wrote first. Generally, the horn and the bass line. Particularly interesting are some concerti Mozart never finished. The concerto written in several colors of ink is worth the price of admission. Not only that, but you will get to savor Pizka's wonderful literary style, rendered into English with a grace and mastery few can surpass. I have always relished his touching translations of the smutty comments Mozart wrote on the Rondo in D. Nice job, little wienie! As far as I know, Strauss did not write smutty comments on his horn concerti. Luckily, you can invent some of your own while you are practicing these pieces at home. Gotta go, Cabbage ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] You can Tellemann what to do, but you cannot make him think....
Hans P wrote Why do we become so stupid, to mount the horse backwards again with modern compositions for natural horn implementing all different keys notes ? It's not stupidity, Hans. I mean, not at all. Really. It's just that the damn horse was pointed in the wrong direction. oG attoG, Cabbage ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Wah-wahs
The learned Prof C wrote Even if your horn has a conical bore, just install an Amado key or two, and you won't have to worry about wah wah any more. to which Paxmaha, ever eager for knowledge, responded: Cabbage- do you know of any valve that will help when the player has to go wah-wah at an inappropriate time? * Thanks to the skills of my urologist, I no longer have to worry about this. Luckily, the procedure did not involve the installation of any Amado keys. Don't gotta go, Cabbage ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Krazy Horn
Valerie offered This discussion is interesting. I read that the euphonium has conical valve slides. When you pull a valve slide it can only be replaced to it's original position (not tuning link). It can't be reversed like standard valve slides because one end is larger than the other. I don't know if this is the case w/ all euphoniums or just some Anyway, doesn't a conical bore add WAH WAH WAH WAH to a brass instrument's playing characteristics? * Even if your horn has a conical bore, just install an Amado key or two, and ou won't have to worry about wah wah any more. Gotta go, Cabbage ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cabbage Music
For those in the San Francisco Bay area: My Concerto for Brass Trio and Orchestra will be performed by the San Jose State University Symphony Orchestra in a week, Tuesday, March 11, at 7:30 PM in the Concert Hall of the Music Building. In response to overwhelming demand, I have agreed not to play the solo horn part. Similarly, I will refrain from giving a physics of music talk between the movements. If you are unfamiliar with this work, it may help you to learn that the movements are named as follows: I - Marcia della tres spalle II - Canzone del cavolo III - Popeye per sonare Information etc. about the piece may be found at http://www.myspace.com/brianwholmes. gotta go, cabbage ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Vintage dress
Nice horn. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=270215855228; ssPageName=STRK Gotta go, Cabbage ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Alex flipper wrench
Chris T wondered I can't seem to find the wrench for my flipper anywhere. If I wanted to get a replacement at a hardware store, what size should I look for? ** I get good results when I look for wrenches at my local hardward store. It measures about 200 feet wide and about 150 deep (61 m x 46 m), not counting the parking lot, or the lumberyard out back. Good luck, Chris. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cabbage on the Road
The peripatetic Professor took his road show to a local middle school last week, where he gave six sessions on the physics of brass instruments to all the science classes. He performed the first movement of Beethoven's Sontata Op. 17 on natural horn; it is possible that this was not the most fascinating choice of selections for this group. But they seemed particularly keen to learn why I kept twirling my horn during the rests. To get rid of the condensation, I asserted. Ehew, gross. But what if you didn't, they wondered. So I poured some water down the leadpipe to let them know why. Driven mad by scientific curiosity, one of them wanted to know what would happen if I poured the water into the bell instead. So I emptied a bottle of water into the bell, and invited him to put his ear close by so that he could hear the difference. The ensuing geyser was considered highly satisfactory by all who witnessed it. Another student wanted to know what it was like playing with my mustache. I told her that I really enjoyed playing with my mustache. It was only late that I realized that she wanted to know what it was like playing horn while sporting a mustache. Alas, she will never know. Those who wish to avoid future road show appearances (in which I play with my mustache on my Paxman Cor d'Orchestra, which has a Geyser wrap), should stay away from Stanford this Wednesday and the Naval Postgraduate school (in Monterrey, CA) next Friday. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Stopped horn and Allergy
Steve F wrote I agree with Jeremy. Although I'm no great shakes as a horn player, my son also told me the same thing - he couldn't stop the horn. I frankly forget exactly what his reasons were - hand too big, perhaps, or perhaps something else. My son's hands and mine are almost exactly the same size, and I picked up the same horn, and played the stopped passage perfectly the first time I tried it. There is a technique to this. ** I did the same thing after my son complained he couldn't play a passage stopped. Not only did I play it perfectly, but I was able to sneer condescendingly afterwards, exhibiting perfect technique. By the way, Allergy is a piece by Faure. It wasn't orginally written for horn. Gotta go, Cabbage ** The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Evening Prayer
Hans P wrote Wouldn't a large brass ensemble ruin the intimate character of the Evening Prayer ? Is there no self restriction left any more ? Why not arranging a Joseph Haydn Stringquartett for a Tuba Octet, because it is a SOO GREAT PIECE ** Wow, Hans, send me a copy of your cool Haydn arrangement for tuba octet right away! I bet it sounds utterly. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: American Horn Sound
Someone wondered with this discussion of the different types of the American sound What school would you say is the true sound that represents that American Horn Sound? *** I would vote for the school of Kendall Betts, the Roger Clemens of the horn, though KB achieved his hall-of-fame results without getting injected in the butt with steroids. I still remember the sound he got throwing his horn across the hall at the IHS Workshop in Eugene, OR. To me, that represents the very apex of the American horn sound, though not, of course, the apex of the instrument's trajectory. *** *** Then Paul M wrote This is a big country and we have several great sounds. (Whatever floats your boat!) * Hey Paul, my favorite is the Long Island Sound. gotta go, Cabbage ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] No way, hos*
Wendell R wrote Just a small point. Shouldn't that be No way Hosé Sincerely, Wendell Rider You'ré right, Wéndéll. Gotta go, Cabbagé ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Yamaha 667V
Brad G offered Hi everyone. I am brand new to the horn list, and am certainly looking forward to being an active member from now on. * Hi Brad. Now that you have been officially Cabbaged, you may find your anticipated pleasure at contributing to the horn list is mixed with some degree of trepidation. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] No way, hose.
John D wondered I commute an hour and 15 minutes each way to work every day. Recently, I cut a piece of hose to be pitched in F. Now on my way to work I can warm-up and do a series of slurring and tonguing exercises on the hose horn. It has changed my life for the better. I have a question for anyone who understands the physics of this. For some reason, my hose is badly out of tune. The interval between the c's (from the bass clef C to middle C and to the treble clef C) is very badly out of tune. It is naturally closer to a minor ninth than an octave without lipping it in tune (which is substantially more difficult on the hose than my horn). Why would this be? I assumed that any pipe would naturally play octaves that are in tune with themselves. ** A cylindrical tube sealed at one end (by your mouth) and open at the other will produce playing notes which are odd multiples of the lowest frequency. Since there is no way for one odd multiple to be exactly twice another, there are actually no octaves possible. The errors get smaller and smaller as you play higher notes. Here is an explanation that involves a little math. In an open natural horn, the playing frequencies are integer multiples of the lowest frequency: 1 2345 6 7 8 9 1112 Middle C is the fourth of these; an octave higher is the eighth. And 8 is twice 4, giving a true octave 2/1. G is the third of these; an octave higher is the sixth. These are also in a 2/1 ratio. In your hose, the notes are thus: 1 357911131517192123 The fourth of these and the eighth are in a 15/7 ratio, a little larger than an octave. The third of these and the sixth are in a 11/5 ratio. Since 15/7 is closer to 2/1 than 11/5 is, we see that the playing notes sound more in tune the higher we get. And since a hose is such a low quality instrument, it is easier to bend the notes. So a garden hose sounds a bit more in tune in the high register than in the low register. A funnel will change the frequencies a little, but not enough to enhance the musical value of the instrument. Mainly, the funnel makes the instrument sound louder. And if it falls off the hose, it makes a charming hat to wear. I'm surprised that the interval you report from low C to middle C is as close to an octave as you indicate. I bet you are bending the notes. My opera Fun with Dick and Jane includes an aria for Jane on the immortal words See Spot run. There is an extensive obligato part for garden hose in D. I actually find that it is easier to lip notes in tune on the hose than on my horn. (Of course, it helps that my horn is already in tune.) This is because the resonances in the hose aren't very strong, so they tend to be spready. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Holiday Greetings
John D wondered [Q] Tonight I was sitting in my easy chair with my left arm on the arm rest,and I played for a couple of hours with no shake at all and no hint of a shake. My question is this: Is there a commercial product out there that one can rest their arm on while playing? The weakness is slowly getting better, but in the meantime, something like a left arm rest would prove valuable. [/Q] This is what assistant horn players are for, John. Mine is somewhat overweight, which helps cushion my left arm quite nicely. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Soft playing
Kendall B wrote always BTSOOI (Blow The Stuff (polite translation) Out Of It) keeping the resistance of the equipment consistent throughout the note and dynamic ranges. I know this sounds simple, and in a way it is. Then Howard S. wondered: This may sound--and be--simple to some, but not to me. What, exactly, does one do to play softly? If one blows the crap out of it, the dynamic will just be loud. There has to be *some* difference in what one does physically when one is playing loud and soft. *** This is because you haven't been paying attention to the subtle nuances of crap, Howard. Those of us who deal with dogs know that this superb substance is quite soft when fresh.Only when it sits and dessicates does it become hard.So if you keep practicing, the humid interior of your horn will keep it moist, making it nice and soft when you blow it out the bell. If you wish to deepen your appreciation of the nuances mentioned above, go to the hornlist archives and reread all my contributions for the last five years. Perhaps some of my postings have little good advice to offer. But the rest, Howard, are full of it. Just went, Cabbage ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Soundwear
Fred wrote Also re oil, it is worth considering that while oil sells currently for around $96/barrel, that is equivalent to around 66 euros - back in January 2001 there was rough parity between the two currencies (1 euro = 0.94 dollars), so the rapid price rise of oil in US dollars since that time is to a large degree a function of the declining international value of the dollar. The situation is even worse for valve oil. I spent $4.95 on my most recent purchase. This is over $12,000 a barrel! Luckily, a barrel of valve oil will last a long time, even though it doesn't fit very easily in the little compartment of my MB case. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Japanese Horn Quartet Music
Rafael A wrote Please sorry but my english Sucks * Au contraire, my friend: you seem to have achieved a totally awesome command of the expressive nuances of the English language. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cabbage on the road
Hornlisters living in the SF Bay area have an opportunity to miss two events of cruciferous significance. The first event is the premier of the Professor's latest composition, Death's Jest-Book Overture, commissioned by the Mission Chamber Orchestra. This will be performed in San Jose on Nov. 3, St Hubert's Day, just a day after Dia de los Muertos. For more details, avoid: http://www.missionchamber.org/ To learn more about St. Hubert, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Exhumation_of_Saint_Hubert.jpg Once you have missed the Overture, you will enjoy staying home while Prof. Cabbage takes his act on the road. In this case, the road is HWY 17 from San Jose to Santa Cruz. He will visit the physics dept of UC Santa Cruz at 4PM Thursday, Nov. 8. For more information, visit http://physics.ucsc.edu/sem_news/index.html To learn more about UCSC, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_slug Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] R: Off Topic News
Larry Y offered May I draw the attention of the list to the result of this evening's rugby match between the national teams of France and England. May I take this opportunity to congratulate the ** who came a good second. You may and you may. However, I have taken the liberty of editing your second sentence so that it follows the recommmendations of the International Horn Society, Gotta go, Chou ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] lead pipe and mp frolics
Gary wrote Well, I could get into the biofilter buss and patch in a molecular matrix reader. That's no problem. But the waveform modulator will be overloaded without a regerneration limiter in the first-stage circuit. If you used a triple horn, Gary, none of this would be necessary. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Braces
Alon R wrote A student of mine is about to put braces on her teeth. Does any one have any Idea about expected difficulties and solutions ? * If your student isn't trained orthodontist, she should give serious thought to hiring a competent professional to put the braces on her teeth, rather than doing it herself. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Yet another radio performance comment
Anne M wrote I,also, was very impressed with music on NPR here the evening of Friday,the 28th. The Boston Symphony did the Brahms First, always a favorite with me,maybe due to the wonderful horn parts! Anyway, the very exposed solo horn was just outstanding. It was like hearing them for the first time and I'll be checking to see if it's available on CDs. Any information on the player and of course,his choice of horns,would be appreciated. But somehow I think this person could have been playing a Kazoo or singing the part and still sounded great. *** It's funny you should mention the kazoo, because this famous horn solo was based on a tune Brahms heard being played by a kazoospieler while touring Switzerland. This trip also inspired Brahms to include a yodeling chorus in the introduction to the last movement, but he abandoned this idea when he learned that Wagner had already written a yodeling chorus in the third act of Die Walkuere. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: The First Memphis Horn List
Bear W was ... ... curious. Just what ever happened to the FIRST Memphis Horn List? No, I don't mean the one in Memphis Tennessee these days, I mean the one in Ancient Egypt. I'm thinking that maybe after constantly getting scalded on the hands and lips, from holding Horns in 130=BAF(55=BAC) desert sunshine, they might have disbanded. (Hey, someone's got to play music to build pyramids by?!?) I keep sending E-Mails to the websites of Menes, Hatshepsut, Seti I, Djoser and other important rulers, but they never answer back. When I call their Free Phone Number, all I get is a Camel Washing place. Those guys were all arrested and sent to jail. I read about it in the International Musician. It turns out that the musician's union was nothing but a den of Thebes. Archaeologists have recently unearthed an early manifestation of this same stale joke. You will find their report here: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MSHANEMCL/kingtut.htm Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[hornlist]Test
Ed G never wrote: Suddenly all posts from this hornlist have stopped coming. I'm sending this one as a test to see if the problem lies with my computer, with the hornlist or, if possibly everyone on this list has suddenly gone on vacation. Sorry Ed, none of us got this post either. I know I haven't been on vacation, so it's very strange that I wouldn't have received it. Check your computer. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Stop horn....
Larry wrote: There's not a mute out there that can transpose a single note! I don't understand why there is all this hypothetical conjecture on the list about what mutes can do. And Valerie answered No, Larry, you're wrong. Haven't you seen the U-tube video of the stone lined straight mute dancing whistling Dixie? I missed this one, Valerie. But next week I will post a droll video of my tuning slide, allowing you to watch an actual U-tube on U-tube. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] ......while you work
Wendell R wrote: Carl (Geyer) always said that a good mouthpiece should whistle. And Herb F responded Whistle how? Any mouthpiece will whistle if you plug the rim with your palm and blow across the other end. *** Novices on the hornlist should be aware that it helps to remove the horn from the small end of your mouthpiece first. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] 9 O'clock shadow
Reba McL wrote I dropped a metronome on mine. *** Bad idea, Reba, bad idea! It's more effective to leave your METRONOME on the chair (preferably near the edge) so that someone will drop their horn on it. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: 9 o'clock hole
Herbert Foster wrote Then there's the idiot (me) that drops his mute on your horn. Fortunately my DePolis mute is soft, and the repair only cost me $15. In my experience, soft mutes are pretty cheap to repair. Any damage to the horn? Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Berg/8D
Jeremy C wrote: Wouldn't you agree Howard that a Lawson, a Paxman and an 8D in a section would indeed be a section of BIG horns? This is what I intend by saying it's 8D country. (Or at least partly what I intend - to me, the term 8D is much like the term Kleenex When you blow your nose, you don't ask for a facial tissue, you ask for a Kleenex.) Not me. I ask for an 8D. Not only does it unclog my nasal passages, but the specially installed Amado Mucous Keys help keep everything clean-running and sanitary. And, as a special bonus, the 8D is reusable! Just try playing the Long Call on a Kleenex, Jeremy, and you'll understand how handy that is. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: mouthpiece kit
After Carlberg J wrote A mouthpiece it is collection of a number of mouthpieces of varying sizes and shapes. Lawrence Y responded I thought a mouthpiece kit was a lump of iron ore, a box of matches and a file. No, Larry, you confused the mouthpiece kit with the horn kit. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] the matchstick trick and the acousticoil
Herb F contributed this: You can get the effect of the Accousticoil for free by wrapping some thin insulated wire around a thick pencil. Make a loose spiral about 1 inch in length. I haven't tried an Accousticoil, but the wire spiral does have an effect. * You will also notice a significant improvement in your tone quality, without risking the delicate interior of your horn, by inserting an Acousticoil into your right ear. Dennis Brian accomplished the same trick with a matchstick, but this is not advisable if you suffer from inflammable ear wax. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Expressive intonation
After Steve B wrote The ending pitch level would have been more of a distraction, I suspect, than to have fudged along the way. Daniel C was confused: I'm sorry, my English is not good enough that I can clearly understand this sentence; would you mind to explain? No need to apologize, Daniel: this sentence also confuses some of us who speak English all the time. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Expressive intonation
Mark S wrote I thought that if the chords were within a tonality, you would end up in the same place, because each note has a spot and for the most part when you go from chord to chord playing just intervals each chord remains in just intonation. It's not that easy. This is why just intonation has never been a very practical way of tuning. But I don't know any way to explain this except by using mathematics. Mathphobes can skip to the bottom to see if there is a joke there. In just intonation, the tuning of a note depends on its harmonic function. The most significant intervals are the octave, tuned 2:1; the perfect fifth, tuned 3:2; the perfect fourth, tuned 4:3; and the major third, tuned 5:4. Suppose that middle C has a frequency of 200 Hz. Let's figure out how to get the frequency of the note A. a. You could go up a fourth (to F) and then up a major third. The resulting frequency is (200 Hz) x (4/3) x (5/4) = 333.33 Hz b. You could go up a fifth (to G), up another fifth (to D), up another fifth (to A), then down an octave (because that A is an octave to high.) The resulting requency is (200 Hz) x (3/2) x (3/2) x (3/2) x (1/2) = 337.5 Hz. The discrepancy between these two frequencies is 21.5 cents (where 100 cents is a half step.) If a choir were singing a D minor chord (in which the A is 337.5 Hz) and switched to an F major chord, then either the A would have to be retuned down to 333.33 Hz, or the other notes in the new chord would have to be adjusted. If you want to know how big 21.5 cents is, get out your horn, don't touch the valves, and play (starting at C above middle C) the notes CDE. Most of us would say that the interval from C to D is a whole step, and so is the interval from D to E. But if you play in the centers of the notes, you will find that C to D is slightly wider than D to E. This is because the ratio between the frequencies of D and C is 9:8, while the ratio between E and D is 10:9. The discrepancy between these two whole steps is 21.5 cents. I recently received a copy of Ross Duffin's book How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (and why you should care). Of course, the title gives away his viewpoint. But the book does an excellent job of analyzing some of the historical aspects of tuning. Of particular interest are a few pages of notes made by Mozart while giving violin lessons. Mozart says that the space between C and D is divided into nine microscopic intervals, and that C sharp is 4/9 of the way between C and D, while D flat is 5/9 of the way between them. The book is also admirable because its cover quotes Prof. Cabbage himself. Gotta go, Prof. Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: pitch, temperament and intonation
Joeg Horn G ...I think the insensitivity of the modern western ear to 'just' or 'pure' intonation has everything to do with the dominance of modern fixed pitch instruments (including fretted stringed instruments) and nothing to do with a lack of tonality or excess of dissonance. Furthermore, the timbre of these instruments seems to hide or make these imperfections of tuning less evident. Try listening to a brass quintet playing a Bach chorale using equal temperament. It's like fingernails on a chalkboard. Listen to the same chorale on a keyboard instrument, not so bad. * Listen, Joey, there is absolutely no reason why chalkboards should be played out of tune, particularly since (the last time I looked) most of them are fretless. Sure, these modern digital chalkboards sound terrible, but that results from misguided sampling techniques. An authentic, analogue chalkboard can be a thing of beauty, in the hands of a professional. Listen to a recording of Gurre-lieder sometime, and you'll know what I mean. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Centering pitch
Hans P wondered Hello again, Evan, How do you move the notes away from their place ? *** Just swat them with a newspaper. Eventually, all you have to do is wave the newpaper, and the notes will go where they are supposed to. Of course, this modern on-line generation barely knows what a newpaper is, isn't that right, Hans? Gotta go, Cabage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Used horns in NYC
(not joke-related) I have a niece who lives in NYC and would like to return to horn playing. I would appreciate receiving some helpful hints about where/how to look for used, playable horns in NYC. gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: On Edge
B Gross wrote That's the thing about Cabbage contribution you have to read with a thought in the back of your mind, is this solid information or a creative mind at work with words? *** I always try to write contributions that offer good, salad information. Those who read my words carefully will discover that they are full of pith. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] On edge
Jeremy C complained: It's not just a horn thing. I find all too frequently that all I do anymore is blast. I don't want to, but to balance with the ever-loudening orchestra, it seems a necessity. Playing a Mozart concerto recently, the violins were so loud and aggressive - as if they were playing Mahler, just to allow the delicate horn lines to carry with the strings we had to easily bring the piano passages up to mezzo forte or louder. In another ensemble during a recent performance of Dvorak's New World, the bones and trumpets were SO loud and splatty, for us (horns) to blend, we had to play as loud as humanly possible - the section was principal and 3rd 8Ds, myself on a Lawson Fourier, and 4th on a 867. We were simply exhausted and couldn't be effective through the rest of the concert. In general, orchestras are forcing themselves louder and it's getting damned annoying. ** This problem arises because modern orchestral musicians are often unaware of the historical basis of musical practice. it is well known, for example, that players in Russian orchestras during the late nineteenth century preferred to play pianissimo or piano most of the time. Tchaikowsky discovered that the only way he could get them to play at a mezzo piano level was to write ff or fff in the score. Modern players often spoil these passages by playing them very loud, unaware that Tchaikowsky actually intended for them to be played mp. Luckily, there has been a recent revival of authentic music performance techniques, and one can now purchase recordings of Tchaikowsky's works embodying the subdued, delicate, refined style he preferred. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Centering the note
Simple S wrote I'm still not sure what this as it lies on the horn means (and no cabbaging please!). *** Nonsense! Cabbaging always pleases. gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Yes, I'm stumped.
Someone axed: If a tree falls on an 8D in the forest, and no horn jocks are around to hear it, does it's sound have more 'core' than a Geyer? * It depends. Which one has a bigger first branch: the 8D, the Geyer, or the tree? Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] The skinny on the 8D
Steve F wrote Since we're digressing, allow me to offer skin the cat is an excellent exercise - hang from a pullup bar or a set of rings, bring your legs up = and through your arms, continuing to rotate until your torso has basically = done as much of a full 360 as you can manage safely, then return to the = starting position. Please do not fall down, however! Then Fred B wrote Must be difficult to hold onto your 8d thru this, however... *** Not if you play with the horn off the knee, Fred. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Duck's feet
Jack M opined I had the pinky ring removed from my horn more than 10 years ago and the horn has never slipped or dropped, even under the hottest, sweatiest circumstances. I use a tennis racket grip, which provides plenty of traction to hold the horn steady. As an extra benefit, it allows you to control the amount of overspin you put on the notes. This is why Farkas was able to ace so many of his horn solos. Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: 8D from a non-Conn artist
Bill H offered this: Many ways to skin a cat, and for our section, the 8D does just fine. *** I hope you you will fill us in on how to skin a cat with an 8D, Bill. This is an aspect of horn technique which seems to be missing from Farkas's book. Alas, I have lost my copy of Dauprat's Méthode d'écorcher un chat. Besides, it was never updated for the modern valve horn. gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Very little Friday humor
Anne M offered the following example of the music reviewer's art: Her technique was fascinating. She carefully provided a volume buffer by inserting her hand into the large end of the French horn, as well as being able to play a vibrato sound through the combination of pressing the keys and blowing the right amount of air. *** The reviewer's technique is fascinating. By inserting one or more of his feet into his mouth, he was able to provide an information buffer so that, as he pressed the keys of his word processor, he could assemble combinations of letters which formed unsound words conveying hot air, rather than knowledge. (You may substitute she and her or it and its if the words he and his fail to capture the gender affiliation of this reviewer.) Gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Le Chou sur la Rue
Steve F wrote about the Cabbage's forthcoming visit to scenic New Jersey: This brings to mind that Cat Stevens song, Miles From Nowhere. No offense intended to anyone who lives around there - it's lovely country which I drive through on a semi-regular basis, although just off an interestate highway isn't my favorite part of the area. *** I had trouble booking a location ON the interstate, Steve. Herr Cabbage, your engagement is conspicuously absent from said web site - perhaps they have discovered who you are? I sent them oodles of publicity information, and told them to edit it to suit their needs. Evidently they did. gotta go, Cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cabbage on the Road
Der Fliegende Kohl will be transported next week to New Jersey.After making the obligatory pilgrimage to Exit 2, to light a candle and prostrate himself at the birth shrine of I. M. Gestopfmitscheisst, he will visit Hampton NJ to give his usual talk blah blah blah on the physics of brass instruments blah blah blah at the Hunterdon Hills Playhouse on Thursday evening April 12. Those who wish to attend should contact the Cruciferous One; if anyone wants to bring their horn for me to use (gently) during the talk, let me know, and I will get you admitted gratis to the banquet. (Unless, of course, you are allergic to gratis.) Those who wish to attend the banquet, but miss the talk, or miss the banquet and attend the talk, should also contact me. Those who wish to miss both the banquet and the talk must wait until April 29 for further further instructions. gotta go, cabbage ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Pitched battles and points south
Joyce R wrote I've only read the list for a period of months so I don't yet have a sense of the culture here. ** That's because you hadn't been cabbaged until just now. Welcome aboard, Joyce. gotta go, Cabbage ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Two octave jump
Once you have mastered a two octave leap on the note A flat, you might want to look at Stanley Weiner's Horn Concerto, which ends with a two octave glissando on this note - two octaves down, then two octaves up. Gotta go, Cabage ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Nichol's knuckles
David G wrote (Red Nichol's) father believed that practice makes perfect and made Red practice the cornet for at least an hour before breakfast. He rewarded mistakes with a crack on the knuckles. Red's precision, tone, and mastery of his instrument were developed early because of his father's strict discipline. Such pedagogical techniques have likely long fallen into disuse; yet they equally likely helped to produce this fine musician, land him immortality in music history, and left us with a great musical legacy. In retrospect, was Red better or worse off for his treatment? Are there any moms or dads here who would like to weigh in on unusual teaching techniques that have paid off for their youngsters? Is the world missing some excellent musicians because dad was too timid to whack his little prodigy? On the detail level, if you are going to crack knuckles, would it make more musical sense for cornet and horn dads to target the right hand? If your students have learned their lessons properly, and if they have seriously absorbed the significance of cracking knuckles, then eventually they spontaneously crack their own knuckles after making a mistake, or even in advance of making the mistake. This is why I enjoy cracking my knuckles during the long boring bit before the horn solo in Tchaik V. Really, David, there's no point in limiting yourself to one hand - you can crack one hundred percent more if you use both hands. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Soprano on the horn
Fred B commented on what Tony S said on TV: That must have been the AE version - the original HBO version was: You = $^!*%# lie like I $^!*%# play the $^!*%# french horn. To avoid offending readers on the hornlist, you should write: You =$^!*%# lie like I $^!*%# play the $^!*%# *** horn. Really, Fred, you ought to know better by now. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Fixing a fingering problem
Carlberg J wrote So any suggestions on how to break this habit? [lifting a finger off the valve lever] I've had good luck with students with a rubber band around the valve lever and the finger. Good to be aware of things like this. Good thinking, Carlberg. Another successful way to use a rubber band is to zap your student with it the moment the miscreant's finger leaves the lever. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Practice mute. Am I gullible?
Carlberg J wrote For 45 years I've practiced without a practice mute in hotel rooms everywhere without a single complaint. Sometimes for hours on end. I do mention I'll be practicing my horn. My only rule is 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. I prefer to practice for less than twelve hours a day, Carlberg. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Fanfare for the Common Man
Melvin B wondered A friend of mine once told me, he thought 'Fanfare for the Common Man' should be arranged for Horn Choir(no trumpets, trombones etc.) Has this ever been done? Do you think it should be? Is it even practical? ** Oh yes,this works very well. However, the percussion parts cannot easily be transcribed for horns. Luckily, however, they work quite well when performed on mellophones, whose tone is greatly enhanced when the instruments are struck with timpani sticks, tam tam mallets, pipe wrenches, axe handles, and so forth. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Who was Henri Kling?
Richard B wondered Who was Henri Kling? * Henri Kling was a celebrated horn designer who designed an ultra-light horn out of thin PVC polymer. Although his instruments had acoustical problems that prevented them from being played in public, they proved to be remarkably useful in preserving leftovers. I bought a pre-WWI Kling on eBay recently, and I find that the Kling Wrap keeps my salad greens fresh and Kruspe. gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Brass green interior
Larry J wondered: Having played nickel silver horns all my life, now I have a brass horn. Some of the interior piping is coated with the green copper oxide. If this oxidation layer is firmly attached (say after cleaning with detergent and a snake), is it okay to leave? * Sure. But please close the door on your way out. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Tough entrance
David G wrote: I was interested to know if there are any other pieces that have an F# entrance, especially repetitiously like these. *** Bruckner's Fourth on a bad day. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Puns at work
Bill G invoked my name in explaining It's a joke, which loses with explanation. eHarmony.com is an internet based dating service. There are multiple puns at work. Just think of it as a contribution by Cabbage. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Klaus Bjerre Hoyer serial numbers from the GDR and post-GDR eras ? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest eHarmoy.com Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 7:43 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Hoyer serial numbers from the GDR and post-GDR eras Are there any web sources for dating Hoyer horns? Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre *** Here is a list of my favorite dating services. http://www.radiocarbon.org/Info/conventional-labs.htm Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Keep your Hans to yourselves
William B worte No one has been rude enough to correct Hans sometime fractured Engish to my knowledge. Hans should return this favor and keep his foolish corrections to himself. *** Nonsense. I have corrected him many times, most notably when he asserted that the mouthpiece meets the lips at a right ankle. This is, off course, a ludicrous mistake, since many players keep their horns on the right leg. Therefore the left ankle is the right ankle, not the right ankle. Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
