[hugin-ptx] Re: How to use geometry vs. feature based control points?

2011-02-26 Thread Martin Terblanche
I'm doing a project where I'm building a motorized head which will
save all the positions to a log file. I want to automate the entire
process of creating a panorama in Hugin.

So i'm basically doing exactly the same thing as Bruno. I want to use
a log file to help Hugin to place photos in areas with no control
points. It seems like Papy wizard can create such a file (xml) and APP
can then use this. But APP is expensive and I would like to use Hugin.

Would you set the y,p,r of all the photos and then run the optimizer,
all in a script? What train of thought must I follow here :)

On Feb 19, 1:58 am, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote:
 On Fri 18-Feb-2011 at 10:54 -0500, Bill Sherman wrote:



 1) I'm having trouble with the Move/Drag portion of the Preview (actually,
 to tell the truth, much of how to use the Preview window is a
 mystery to me).  I just reran Hugin, using my sample images, and
 then go to the Move/Drag operation.  At this point, I can move
 some of the images independently, but some stay stuck together -- and
 I want to move one relative to the others.

 The fast preview lets you drag connected image groups separately, a
 connected group is defined as any set that is connected by control
 points.

 3) I noticed an image referred to in a post from yesterday an Overview
 sub window for the preview, but I do not see that in my version.  Will
 this be in the next release?  Will there be a new release soon?  Here's
 the picture:
     -http://www.flickr.com/photos/36383814@N00/5451289889

 Yes the overview will be in the next release, currently you need to
 build a snapshot from Mercurial to get it.

 The robot device does not directly communicate with any computer, so
 there is no log.  However, it reports on the screen the angle between
 shots, so I could easily provide command line arguments of the MxN
 array, with both horizontal and vertical movement angles.

 And I'd be happy to help figure out the best procedure for this.

 What other ways do robots allow you to specify a sequence?  
 Presumably you have an option to start at the top/bottom or
 left/right, or to specify the total angle rather than number of
 shots, or specify the total angle and angle between shots.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Stitching and enfusing a handheld panorama with several exposures

2011-02-26 Thread Markku Kolkka
25.2.2011 8:24, Gnome Nomad kirjoitti:
 Markku Kolkka wrote:
 JiHO kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika torstai, 24. helmikuuta 2011):
 If I follow the steps exactly I do this:
 1- import my images
 2- in the Images tab, stack them in stacks of 3 (0, +2, -2)

 Don't use stacks with hand-held images. Hugin believes that images in
 a stack are pre-aligned perfectly.
 
 Hmm, I used Hugin to align a stack of hand-held images and used the
 Merge to HDR's Stacked HDR Images option to produce an EXR file.

The point is that using the New stack button on the Images tab
*prevents* Hugin from aligning images defined as a stack (unless you
manually unlink them). I guess that your stack of images wasn't
actually defined as a bracketed stack on the Images tab?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin plugin interface - developers please liaise

2011-02-26 Thread T. Modes
Hi Kay,


 I also changed a few return codes in hpi to avoid potential confusion
 about which part produces an error.

Is there some list, what each error code means? So we could add more
meaningfull messages for users/new python developers, if the script or
script interface fails. Currently they are only numbers, which does
not say to much without looking into different places of the source.


 The changes are contained in a patch which I have put into my bazaar
 repo, hoping that it will go the way of it's predecessors, which have
 been integrated into the main repo by T. Modes.

Commited.

Thomas

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[hugin-ptx] 2011.0 and align_image_stack

2011-02-26 Thread Yuval Levy
Hi all,

three weeks ago I added a new branch to the repository, with code contributed 
by Vladimir Nadvornik to align_image_stack.  The code adds functionality for 
the alignment of stereo images, and should not change any previous 
functionality.

Has any user of align_image_stack found unexpected changes in the behavior of 
align_image_stack in that branch?

If there are no negative reports, I intend to merge the functionality into the 
default branch before branching out for the release cycle.  I intend to branch 
2011.0 out and issue the first beta release of the cycle probably on Sunday 
night.

Yuv


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: droplet failure on Windows

2011-02-26 Thread Yuval Levy
On February 24, 2011 07:26:59 am Tom Sharpless wrote:
 I meant I have not installed or learned Hg yet.

If that's the obstacle and you have patched the tools please forward the patch 
and I'll apply it.

If I can be of any help with Hg, feel free to ask questions.

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[hugin-ptx] Broken Layout

2011-02-26 Thread Yuval Levy
Motivated by a ticket [0] on the tracker about numeric transform being 
'broken' by the introduction of the new dragging functionality, I looked 
deeper into the matter.  Turn out it was not broken, it was 'just' hidden 
outside of the viewport.

While I normally work in full screen mode and am not aware of these issues, I 
have taken the steps of resizing all windows to their minimum size and trying 
to access app functionality.  My conclusions:

THE CURRENT LAYOUT OF HUGIN IS 'BROKEN'.

We need decisions and consistency about the user interface layout.
Here is what I would suggest:
1. Decide a minimum screen size at which the application is functional.
2. Decide a consistent way of paging the information that can't be fit in such 
minimum screen size - can be vertical scrolling, can be sub-tabbing, can be 
anything else we have not seen or tried yet.
3. Document the above decisions and enact them as project policies.
4. Implement the above decisions consistently across windows and tabs.
Given the current hardware trends, I would suggest:
1. 800x480 minimum screen size
2. vertical scrolling within the tab (not so cool for mouse users, but look at 
tablets)
Comments?

Can we do this in the yet to be started 2011.0 release cycle, or do we have to 
ship another version of Hugin that becomes unaccessible at screen sizes below 
1366x768?

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: enblend help,

2011-02-26 Thread Bart van Andel
What error? If I try my solution, I get a perfectly valid .jpg file out of 
it. No warnings or errors at all. I'm on Windows 7 x64, using Enblend 4.0 
(from Hugin 2010.4.0-beta2 x32 build).

I hope you agree with me that the info you are providing is pretty brief. 
You haven't provided which OS you are using, which version of Enblend, i.e. 
nothing at all except a command line. You need to provide at least some 
details, or we can't help you.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Undeletable artifacts

2011-02-26 Thread Bart van Andel
Are the files still undeletable after a reboot? If not, there might be an 
issue with the files never being closed by the application. I can't imagine 
why this would happen, but it is a possibility. A workaround might be to use 
unlocker [0], in this case.

If this is not the case, another possibility may be that somehow the files 
are saved such that you don't have rights to delete the file. Could you open 
a command prompt (cmd.exe), browse to the directory mentioned where the 
intermediate files are stored (cd /d 
Z:\Artefacts\Imagery\Photo\Calendric\2011\02\24 
if that's where the files are stored), and run xcacls on the temporary file 
(e.g. xcacls 2011-02-24.tif)? This shows the access control list (ACL) 
associated with the file. Could you post the results here?

By the way, I'm not sure but this last log line strikes me as abnormal? 
Maybe someone else can comment on this?
enblend: input image 2011-02-240002.tif does not have an alpha channel

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Broken Layout

2011-02-26 Thread T. Modes
Hi Yuv,


 THE CURRENT LAYOUT OF HUGIN IS 'BROKEN'.

This affects mainly linux. On windows it working nice, even with
minimum window size.

 Can we do this in the yet to be started 2011.0 release cycle, or do we have to
 ship another version of Hugin that becomes unaccessible at screen sizes below
 1366x768?

This applies also only to linux. On windows hugin is still usable with
800x600 screen size. So please not soo general statements.

 Given the current hardware trends, I would suggest:
 1. 800x480 minimum screen size

This is already set for windows and mac. The smaller size for linux
seems to be related to Asus eeePC users.

Thomas

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Broken Layout

2011-02-26 Thread Jan Martin
While we are at it:

Why can't one enter the numeric value and then just press Enter on the
keyboard?
Right now one has to press the button using the mouse.

Thanks,
Jan
(on Ubuntu Linux)

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:28 PM, T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi Yuv,

 
  THE CURRENT LAYOUT OF HUGIN IS 'BROKEN'.
 
 This affects mainly linux. On windows it working nice, even with
 minimum window size.

  Can we do this in the yet to be started 2011.0 release cycle, or do we
 have to
  ship another version of Hugin that becomes unaccessible at screen sizes
 below
  1366x768?

 This applies also only to linux. On windows hugin is still usable with
 800x600 screen size. So please not soo general statements.

  Given the current hardware trends, I would suggest:
  1. 800x480 minimum screen size

 This is already set for windows and mac. The smaller size for linux
 seems to be related to Asus eeePC users.

 Thomas

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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin plugin interface - developers please liaise

2011-02-26 Thread kfj


On 26 Feb., 13:30, T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi Kay,



  I also changed a few return codes in hpi to avoid potential confusion
  about which part produces an error.

 Is there some list, what each error code means? So we could add more
 meaningfull messages for users/new python developers, if the script or
 script interface fails. Currently they are only numbers, which does
 not say to much without looking into different places of the source.

Thank you for the commit, Thomas. Really, none of the errors I worked
on should occur under normal circumstances. But now, with the number,
anyone can instantly locate them in the code to track down what went
wrong. There is a pattern, though:

- errors in the minus twenties come from hpi.cpp and indicate a
problem in the interface
- errors in the minus tens come from hpi.py and result from problems
with the plugin
- the plugin itself should return 0 if all is well or a small number
on error

If you want I can make a more detailed list, but I'd like to wait
until we have decided how the plugin interface should be anchored in
the main body of code. You may have read the remainder of my post,
where I ask how this should be done, and I feel any formal
specification at this point in time would be overkill. Once we've
decided on the integration, a proper method to exchange messages,
errors and data can be implemented.

Kay

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[hugin-ptx] 2011.0 Artwork: voting starts now

2011-02-26 Thread Yuval Levy
Hi all,

You will find at [0] images of the candidates for the splash screen / about 
menu of the upcoming Hugin 2011.0, as well as a link to vote for your 
favorite.

Rules and the detailed description of the entries are at [1].

Voting is open now and will stay open during the beta phase of the release 
cycle.  Voting will close a couple of days before the end of the beta phase 
and the splash screen will be integrated into the first release candidate.

Entries are still accepted until the first beta release but late entrants 
acknowledge that voting has already started and accept that other entrants' 
artwork may have already received some votes.

Yuv


[0] http://www.photopla.net/hugin/2011.0.artwork.html
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[hugin-ptx] Big list of suggestions

2011-02-26 Thread William Sherman

Hello,

So I have several little things that I noticed, and that I
think would help my workflow in using Hugin.  I offer these
not as complaints, but as ways that will increase my desire
to continue using Hugin for my panorama projects.

As an FYI, I've tested on a Fedora 11 w/ Hugin 2010.4.0 and
a Fedora 14 system w/ Hugin 2010.5.0 from 2/22/2011 mercurial
snapshot.

I'll do my best to categorize the list since and make it
more readable.

--
Image list tab:

- Some of the screenshots for show thumbnails in the image list.
I think this is good, but I don't see them in the versions
I'm using.

- The text entry boxes in the Image Orientation area (which
btw might better be called the Image Position area
since it covers both orientation and location) are too
small -- especially for negative numbers (ie. can't see
the entire number).

- Place the larger view of the selected image less far to the
right (right now I have to make the Hugin window nearly
full-screen just to see the image).  Two quick ways to
do this would be to:
- move the Create control points button to be aligned
with the Settings and Points per Overlap
widgets:
- shorted the size of the settings pull-down options list

Bug: the selected image view doesn't redraw when the window size
is changed.

- Is there an argument I can pass to CPFind to increase the gamma
that it uses when doing a comparison?  Actually, I guess
it might not truly need this since it has the raw numbers,
but I did a test where I increased the gamma in all my
images, and CPFind did a better job of finding matching
points, so it would seem that a gamma argument could have
value.

--
Control points tab:

- I would like the ability to set a gamma value for the entire image
in the comparison image views.  Actually, this request is
broader than control points, I'd like to see it in the mask
view and even on the selected image view on the Image tab.

- Can there be a button to cancel a control point creation operation?
There is an Add button, of course, when working with control
points, I don't know how to get rid of a new control point
that I don't want other than to Add it and then immediately
Delete it.

- Is there (or can there be) a way to create control points only
between the two images shown?

- Can the colors of the control point markers also be placed in a
new column on the left of the point list?


--
Preview window:

- I'd like a preference to set the background color of the preview
window to be something other than black.  When working with
nighttime featureless images, it can be hard to find them
with a black background.

- the Scale value of the Layout tab doesn't get set properly
when going to another tab and then returning to Layout.

- the sliders on the main preview window seem to be counter-intuitive
(at least I have a difficult time using them).  Perhaps this
is because I'm been testing with super-high-res panorams
rather than high FOV images) -- I have to move both sliders
way to the right and the top to zoom in sufficiently to see
anything.

- I would like to be able to move/resize the overall view under
the Preview and Layout tabs with the mouse (ie. not
with the sliders).

-
Preview window (2010.5.0 version):
Bug: the image toggle boxes are only big enough to see one digit of
the image number.

- I can't raise the overall Panorama Preview window to be on top of
the Overview window (when that window is torn off from the
main window).

- The grid checkbox on the Ovewview window controls the display
of the grid in the primary preview window

- I don't know how to adjust the scale of the images in the overview
window (they seem too big in my project).

- Selecting the Thoby projection from the pull-down menu in the
Projection tab went off to do the calculations and three
days later had not completed (yes, I didn't get back to my
home computer for three days and found it still calculating).
So, a way to interrupt/cancel this would be good -- as well
as fixing what is probably a bug.

---

Of course, those are mostly orthogonal to my original issue (which I
haven't created a good solution yet) of doing an alignment based on
the robotically generated positions of each image capture.  But looking
to when I'll be using Hugin more regularly, these issues will be most
helpful.

I hope that list isn't too overwhelming!

Thanks,
Bill

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Stitching and enfusing a handheld panorama with several exposures

2011-02-26 Thread Gnome Nomad

Markku Kolkka wrote:

25.2.2011 8:24, Gnome Nomad kirjoitti:

Markku Kolkka wrote:

JiHO kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika torstai, 24. helmikuuta 2011):

If I follow the steps exactly I do this:
1- import my images
2- in the Images tab, stack them in stacks of 3 (0, +2, -2)

Don't use stacks with hand-held images. Hugin believes that images in
a stack are pre-aligned perfectly.

Hmm, I used Hugin to align a stack of hand-held images and used the
Merge to HDR's Stacked HDR Images option to produce an EXR file.


The point is that using the New stack button on the Images tab
*prevents* Hugin from aligning images defined as a stack (unless you
manually unlink them). I guess that your stack of images wasn't
actually defined as a bracketed stack on the Images tab?


I'm still using an old version of Hugin that doesn't appear to support 
what you call a stack, so things could be very different from what a 
newer version can do.


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[hugin-ptx] 2011.0 Release Plan

2011-02-26 Thread Yuval Levy
Hi all,

I have just entered the 2011.0 Release Plan into Launchpad [0] and documented 
release planning [1].

The intention is to make the plan as predictable as possible so that 
contributors can plan for their own contributions (e.g. translations and bug 
fixes) and distributors can plan for the binary builds.

Like with the last release cycle, it would be great if binary releases follow 
on the heels of the tarball releases.

Feedback to the plan is welcome.  I have set the final release well out in the 
future.  It will depend amongst others also on the final release of Libpano 
2.9.18 and other factors that are not fully predictable at the moment.  As 
usual, the release will happen when it is ready and the provided time 
estimates are just an indication and are not guaranteed.

Let's get it rolling!
Yuv

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: How to use geometry vs. feature based control points?

2011-02-26 Thread Bruno Postle

On Sat 26-Feb-2011 at 00:29 -0800, Martin Terblanche wrote:
I'm doing a project where I'm building a motorized head which will 
save all the positions to a log file. I want to automate the 
entire process of creating a panorama in Hugin.


So i'm basically doing exactly the same thing as Bruno. I want to 
use a log file to help Hugin to place photos in areas with no 
control points. It seems like Papy wizard can create such a file 
(xml) and APP can then use this. But APP is expensive and I would 
like to use Hugin.


Papywizard is open source, so it would be a good choice for 
controlling your panoramic head.


Would you set the y,p,r of all the photos and then run the 
optimizer, all in a script? What train of thought must I follow 
here :)


Unfortunately (as mentioned elsewhere in this thread) you can place 
the photos according to a log file, but photos move around as soon 
as you optimise, so you lose any benefit of aligning them 
beforehand.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin plugin interface - developers please liaise

2011-02-26 Thread Bruno Postle

On Fri 25-Feb-2011 at 08:33 -0800, kfj wrote:


Yet again, I ask: developers, liaise. Please don't expect of me to do
it all. I'm not a GUI person, really, and I've spent a great deal of
effort getting the backend right. Maybe someone else could look at the
goodies I've stacked up and think of a clever way of enabling people
to use them?


Sorry, I haven't had time to look into this.  I think initially the 
python interface would be useful even if it presents as a menu of 
functions that don't take any parameters.  i.e. it can be merged 
more-or-less in the state it is in.



Then there is an issue I'd like to have considered by the group: the
hsi python module could be considered a library, since it can do hugin-
ish stuff outside hugin, probably linking in a few shared libraries,
but if it was linked statically, not even that. A lot of hugin's code
is GPLed. Is there a problem with that?


Please use 'GPL version 2 or later', this makes it easier to ship 
with Hugin.  Are you concerned about how this effects the license of 
potential 3rd party plugins?



And one more thing: I'd like to see a discussion about a perspective
for merging the python_scripting branch back into the mainstream.
Thomas and I have made a good effort to parametrize everything in
cmake and make the scripting capability a compile-time option. The
intersections with other code are minimal and well #ifdeffed.


I would like to see the current Hugin 'trunk' move to a 2011.0.0 
release branch as soon as possible.  So the python interface should 
then be merged so that it goes into the next release after that.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] 2011.0 Release Plan

2011-02-26 Thread Bruno Postle

On Sat 26-Feb-2011 at 17:11 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:


Feedback to the plan is welcome.  I have set the final release well out in the
future.  It will depend amongst others also on the final release of Libpano
2.9.18 and other factors that are not fully predictable at the moment.


If necessary libpano13-2.9.18_beta1 could be relabeled as 'final' if 
we need it for a Hugin release (since it seems to be ok).  It would 
be nice to merge the new libpano13 test suite, but this needs some 
work.


As far as Hugin is concerned, the current cpfind is so much better 
than anything we had before that I'd almost recommend people use a 
snapshot rather than 2010.4.0.


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[hugin-ptx] Hugin gives me an error and doesn't make me the panorama.

2011-02-26 Thread Frank Al
The error is that one:

===
***  Panorama makefile generated by Hugin
***
===
System information
===
Software:

System Software Overview:

  System Version: Mac OS X 10.6.2 (10C2234)
  Kernel Version: Darwin 10.2.0
  Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
  Boot Mode: Normal
  Computer Name: iMac de FRANCESC
  User Name: FRANCESC-MARIA (FARMAR)
  Secure Virtual Memory: Not Enabled
  64-bit Kernel and Extensions: No
  Time since boot: 11:06

Hardware:

Hardware Overview:

  Model Name: iMac
  Model Identifier: iMac10,1
  Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
  Processor Speed: 3,06 GHz
  Number Of Processors: 1
  Total Number Of Cores: 2
  L2 Cache: 3 MB
  Memory: 4 GB
  Bus Speed: 1,07 GHz
  Boot ROM Version: IM101.00CC.B00
  SMC Version (system): 1.52f9
  Serial Number (system): WQ9501XA5PC
  Hardware UUID: 267E5620-2938-580D-9D12-1F2356FBC87B

Disc usage
Filesystem  Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/disk0s2   465Gi  373Gi   93Gi80%/
devfs  110Ki  110Ki0Bi   100%/dev
map -hosts   0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%/net
map auto_home0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%/home
/dev/disk1s1   3.8Gi   21Mi  3.7Gi 1%/Volumes/EOS_DIGITAL
/dev/disk2s2   218Mi  196Mi   22Mi90%/Volumes/hugin-
mac-2010.4.0
===
Output options
===
Hugin Version: 2010.4.0 built by Harry van der Wolf
Project file: /var/folders/di/diDkgh2lHxm4eC9KTZktCk+++TI/-Tmp-/
huginpto_tGIP4b
Output prefix: -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503
Projection: Rectilinear (0)
Field of view: 84 x 47
Canvas dimensions: 8030 x 3924
Crop area: (0,0) - (8030,3924)
Output exposure value: 15.19
Selected outputs
Normal panorama
* Blended panorama
===
Input images
===
Number of images in project file: 3
Number of active images: 3
Image 0: /Users/FARMAR/Desktop/IMG_1501.JPG
Image 0: Size 5184x3456, Exposure: 15.19
Image 1: /Users/FARMAR/Desktop/IMG_1502.JPG
Image 1: Size 5184x3456, Exposure: 15.20
Image 2: /Users/FARMAR/Desktop/IMG_1503.JPG
Image 2: Size 5184x3456, Exposure: 15.16
===
Testing programs
===
Checking nona...[OK]
Checking enblend...[OK]
Checking enfuse...[OK]
Checking hugin_hdrmerge...[OK]
Checking exiftool...[OK]
===
Stitching panorama
===
/Applications/Hugin/Hugin.app/Contents/Resources/
HuginStitchProject.app/Contents/MacOS/nona  -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m
TIFF_m -o -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503 -i 0 /var/folders/di/
diDkgh2lHxm4eC9KTZktCk+++TI/-Tmp-/huginpto_tGIP4b
/Applications/Hugin/Hugin.app/Contents/Resources/
HuginStitchProject.app/Contents/MacOS/nona  -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m
TIFF_m -o -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503 -i 1 /var/folders/di/
diDkgh2lHxm4eC9KTZktCk+++TI/-Tmp-/huginpto_tGIP4b
/Applications/Hugin/Hugin.app/Contents/Resources/
HuginStitchProject.app/Contents/MacOS/nona  -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m
TIFF_m -o -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503 -i 2 /var/folders/di/
diDkgh2lHxm4eC9KTZktCk+++TI/-Tmp-/huginpto_tGIP4b
/Applications/Hugin/Hugin.app/Contents/Resources/
HuginStitchProject.app/Contents/MacOS/enblend --compression=NONE -
f8030x3924 -o -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503.tif -Users-
FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503.tif -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-
IMG_1501-IMG_15030001.tif -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-
IMG_15030002.tif
enblend: unknown option -U
Try enblend --help for more information.
gnumake: *** [-Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503.tif] Error 1








I use mac OSX snow leopard... do you know what I should do for repair
it?

Thank you.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Big list of suggestions

2011-02-26 Thread Bruno Postle

On Sat 26-Feb-2011 at 13:35 -0500, William Sherman wrote:


So I have several little things that I noticed, and that I
think would help my workflow in using Hugin.  I offer these
not as complaints, but as ways that will increase my desire
to continue using Hugin for my panorama projects.


Hi Bill, thanks these are some useful bug reports and should be 
added as bugs in the tracker (though search to make sure they don't 
already exist first).


Some comments below:


- Some of the screenshots for show thumbnails in the image list.


Can you point to these? it could be you are seeing a file browser 
window or the Add Images dialog which shows thumbnails (depending on 
OS).



- Is there an argument I can pass to CPFind to increase the gamma
that it uses when doing a comparison?


Potentially the existing camera response parameters in the cpfind 
input file could be used to map the images to linear space for 
matching (this would be similar to gamma correction), but without 
some testing I'm not sure how useful this would be.



Control points tab:

- I would like the ability to set a gamma value for the entire image
in the comparison image views.  Actually, this request is
broader than control points, I'd like to see it in the mask
view and even on the selected image view on the Image tab.


Hugin needs to be changed to display photos properly using colour 
profiles, this would be something related to that.



- Is there (or can there be) a way to create control points only
between the two images shown?


You can select two or more photos in the Images tab and generate 
points for just those photos.



- the sliders on the main preview window seem to be counter-intuitive
(at least I have a difficult time using them).


Basically, the preview window doesn't have any zoom functionality. 
The sliders are changing the field of view of the output panorama 
canvas, which is not quite the same thing.  There is a feature 
request in the tracker somewhere for zooming.



- I can't raise the overall Panorama Preview window to be on top of
the Overview window (when that window is torn off from the
main window).


It is an over-view, I think this is intentional.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin gives me an error and doesn't make me the panorama.

2011-02-26 Thread Tim Nugent
Looks like you've given the name of the output file as

-Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503

It mustn't start with a '-', try removing that.

Tim

On 27 February 2011 00:34, Frank Al 9fra...@gmail.com wrote:

 The error is that one:

 ===
 ***  Panorama makefile generated by Hugin
 ***
 ===
 System information
 ===
 Software:

System Software Overview:

  System Version: Mac OS X 10.6.2 (10C2234)
  Kernel Version: Darwin 10.2.0
  Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
  Boot Mode: Normal
  Computer Name: iMac de FRANCESC
  User Name: FRANCESC-MARIA (FARMAR)
  Secure Virtual Memory: Not Enabled
  64-bit Kernel and Extensions: No
  Time since boot: 11:06

 Hardware:

Hardware Overview:

  Model Name: iMac
  Model Identifier: iMac10,1
  Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
  Processor Speed: 3,06 GHz
  Number Of Processors: 1
  Total Number Of Cores: 2
  L2 Cache: 3 MB
  Memory: 4 GB
  Bus Speed: 1,07 GHz
  Boot ROM Version: IM101.00CC.B00
  SMC Version (system): 1.52f9
  Serial Number (system): WQ9501XA5PC
  Hardware UUID: 267E5620-2938-580D-9D12-1F2356FBC87B

 Disc usage
 Filesystem  Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/disk0s2   465Gi  373Gi   93Gi80%/
 devfs  110Ki  110Ki0Bi   100%/dev
 map -hosts   0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%/net
 map auto_home0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%/home
 /dev/disk1s1   3.8Gi   21Mi  3.7Gi 1%/Volumes/EOS_DIGITAL
 /dev/disk2s2   218Mi  196Mi   22Mi90%/Volumes/hugin-
 mac-2010.4.0
 ===
 Output options
 ===
 Hugin Version: 2010.4.0 built by Harry van der Wolf
 Project file: /var/folders/di/diDkgh2lHxm4eC9KTZktCk+++TI/-Tmp-/
 huginpto_tGIP4b
 Output prefix: -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503
 Projection: Rectilinear (0)
 Field of view: 84 x 47
 Canvas dimensions: 8030 x 3924
 Crop area: (0,0) - (8030,3924)
 Output exposure value: 15.19
 Selected outputs
 Normal panorama
 * Blended panorama
 ===
 Input images
 ===
 Number of images in project file: 3
 Number of active images: 3
 Image 0: /Users/FARMAR/Desktop/IMG_1501.JPG
 Image 0: Size 5184x3456, Exposure: 15.19
 Image 1: /Users/FARMAR/Desktop/IMG_1502.JPG
 Image 1: Size 5184x3456, Exposure: 15.20
 Image 2: /Users/FARMAR/Desktop/IMG_1503.JPG
 Image 2: Size 5184x3456, Exposure: 15.16
 ===
 Testing programs
 ===
 Checking nona...[OK]
 Checking enblend...[OK]
 Checking enfuse...[OK]
 Checking hugin_hdrmerge...[OK]
 Checking exiftool...[OK]
 ===
 Stitching panorama
 ===
 /Applications/Hugin/Hugin.app/Contents/Resources/
 HuginStitchProject.app/Contents/MacOS/nona  -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m
 TIFF_m -o -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503 -i 0 /var/folders/di/
 diDkgh2lHxm4eC9KTZktCk+++TI/-Tmp-/huginpto_tGIP4b
 /Applications/Hugin/Hugin.app/Contents/Resources/
 HuginStitchProject.app/Contents/MacOS/nona  -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m
 TIFF_m -o -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503 -i 1 /var/folders/di/
 diDkgh2lHxm4eC9KTZktCk+++TI/-Tmp-/huginpto_tGIP4b
 /Applications/Hugin/Hugin.app/Contents/Resources/
 HuginStitchProject.app/Contents/MacOS/nona  -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m
 TIFF_m -o -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503 -i 2 /var/folders/di/
 diDkgh2lHxm4eC9KTZktCk+++TI/-Tmp-/huginpto_tGIP4b
 /Applications/Hugin/Hugin.app/Contents/Resources/
 HuginStitchProject.app/Contents/MacOS/enblend --compression=NONE -
 f8030x3924 -o -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503.tif -Users-
 FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503.tif -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-
 IMG_1501-IMG_15030001.tif -Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-
 IMG_15030002.tif
 enblend: unknown option -U
 Try enblend --help for more information.
 gnumake: *** [-Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503.tif] Error 1








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 it?

 Thank you.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin gives me an error and doesn't make me the panorama.

2011-02-26 Thread Carl von Einem

Frank Al schrieb am 27.02.11 00:34:

The error is that one:

[...]

enblend: unknown option -U
Try enblend --help for more information.
gnumake: *** [-Users-FARMAR-Desktop-IMG_1501-IMG_1503.tif] Error 1

I use mac OSX snow leopard... do you know what I should do for repair
it?


It's a bug:

The default file name for your output image is confusing enblend: the 
suggested name starts with '-U...' which is interpreted later on as a 
command, not as a file name. So when you trigger the stitching process 
all you need to do is type a different (or shorten the suggested) file 
name in the dialog.


Hugin somehow wants to use the whole path for the file name and at least 
on Mac OS exchanges all '/' with '-'. That's basically a good behaviour 
but OTOH a '-' at the start should be avoided.


Hope that helps,
Carl

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Big list of suggestions

2011-02-26 Thread Yuval Levy
Hi,

On February 26, 2011 01:35:53 pm William Sherman wrote:
 So I have several little things that I noticed

thank you for taking the time to note down your observation, well explained, 
categorized, and mostly pertinent.

 --
 Image list tab:
 
 - Some of the screenshots for show thumbnails in the image list.
   I think this is good, but I don't see them in the versions
   I'm using.

Do you mean a thumbnail for every line in the list?  or the thumbnail for the 
selected image?  I see the thumbnail for the selected image.

 
 - The text entry boxes in the Image Orientation area (which
   btw might better be called the Image Position area
   since it covers both orientation and location) are too
   small -- especially for negative numbers (ie. can't see
   the entire number).

Done.  Please check if it needs even larger field size.

 
 - Place the larger view of the selected image less far to the
   right (right now I have to make the Hugin window nearly
   full-screen just to see the image).  Two quick ways to
   do this would be to:
   - move the Create control points button to be aligned
   with the Settings and Points per Overlap
   widgets:

Done.

   - shorted the size of the settings pull-down options list

If I am not mistaken the length of that pull-down list is determined by the 
string entered in the preferences, which in turn is user-changeable.  The 
default names are long / descriptive.
 
 Bug: the selected image view doesn't redraw when the window size
   is changed.

Please file in the tracker.

 
 - Is there an argument I can pass to CPFind to increase the gamma
   that it uses when doing a comparison?

Not that I know of.  Please file feature request in the tracker.


 --
 Control points tab:
 
 - I would like the ability to set a gamma value for the entire image
   in the comparison image views.

Please file feature request in the tracker.


 - Can there be a button to cancel a control point creation operation?


hit the Delete button.  Works at any stage of the creation.  Tested on the 
most recent snapshot a few minutes ago, Kubuntu 10.4 LTS.


 - Is there (or can there be) a way to create control points only
   between the two images shown?

This is actually in the Images tab.  CTRL-click on the images in the list and 
hit the button to generate CPs only between the selected images (the one you 
asked me to move).

 
 - Can the colors of the control point markers also be placed in a
   new column on the left of the point list?

Please file a feature request in the tracker.

 --
 Preview window:
 
 - I'd like a preference to set the background color of the preview
   window to be something other than black.When working with
   nighttime featureless images, it can be hard to find them
   with a black background.

Make sense.  Please file a feature request in the tracker.

 
 - the Scale value of the Layout tab doesn't get set properly
   when going to another tab and then returning to Layout.

Please file a bug report in the tracker.  I could see it as well: the images 
are drawn to default scale rather than to the selected scale in the slider.

 
 - the sliders on the main preview window seem to be counter-intuitive

The slider set the field of view of the panorama.  I suspect you are using 
them as a zoom function.  Use the mouse wheel in a 2010.5 snapshot instead.


 - I would like to be able to move/resize the overall view under
   the Preview and Layout tabs with the mouse (ie. not
   with the sliders).

Why, if I may ask?  And how would you like the mouse to behave?

 
 -
 Preview window (2010.5.0 version):
 Bug: the image toggle boxes are only big enough to see one digit of
   the image number.

This is already in the bug tracker IIRC.

 
 - I can't raise the overall Panorama Preview window to be on top of
   the Overview window (when that window is torn off from the
   main window).

Why would you want to do so?  note that you can show/hide the overview with 
the button next to the list of the displayed images.

 
 - The grid checkbox on the Ovewview window controls the display
   of the grid in the primary preview window

Indeed it does.  Where would you put this control?

 
 - I don't know how to adjust the scale of the images in the overview
   window (they seem too big in my project).

There should not be a need to scale the images in the overview window.  That's 
their size, shape, position in relation to the panosphere.  If they seem to 
big, the project is not properly aligned / optimized.

 
 - Selecting the Thoby projection from the pull-down menu in the
   Projection tab went off to do the calculations and three
   days later had not completed (yes, I didn't get back to my
   home computer for three days and found it still calculating).
   So,