[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[ArAgost]

Hi Harry and sorry everybody if I disappeared right after my message!
I'm glad you found out what I was meaning and promptly fixed it, very
appreciated :)


On 29 Set, 21:44, Harry van der Wolf  wrote:
> Hi Carl,
>
> 2010/9/29 Carl von Einem 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Harry,
>
> > maybe you should also include a clear statement in your announcements of
> > prerelease bundles on this list that what you publish via your own site are
> > always non-official 'pre-release' versions meant for testing and providing
> > feedback to the developers.
>
> > On your website I propose to change the section "Hugin Release bundles" to
> > something like this:
> >  ***
> >  _Where to find official Hugin Release bundles_
>
> >  The software on this site is built from development versions
> >  and as such is primarily meant for testing purposes. Chances
> >  are that these downloads can be used to produce some
> >  breathtaking panoramas but don't blame us if your Mac turns
> >  into a coffee machine instead.
>
> >  If you are looking for the latest official release bundles
> >  please check out the "Download" section at hugin.sourceforge.net
> >  or directly from the files section from Sourceforge. The current
> >  version is 2010.0.0.
>
> >  Have fun!
> >  ***
>
> > The following "Note:..." paragraph should be preceded by the headline which
> > is currently following. The "(SVN)" part is obsolete, right? So maybe
> > something like "Hugin 2010.x release candidates and other development
> > versions".
>
> > Cheers,
> > Carl
>
> Thanks for this suggestion. It is indeed much better. I copied it almost 1:1
> to my site including the coffee machine reference (it's funny) but I think I
> will change it to something else as it might scare off new users and the
> builds are not that unstable (or are they?).
>
> The SVN heading was just plain wrong. I simply overlooked it.
>
> Harry

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Bruno Postle]

On Wed 29-Sep-2010 at 21:22 +0200, Harry van der Wolf wrote:


Who can update the  page for both
the windows and mac build?
Do "we" as committers to the repositories also have access to the web pages?


Yes, it is all in HG and synced with the website every hour.  Just 
edit and push the files in the 'hugin-web' HG repository.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Harry van der Wolf]

Hi Carl,

2010/9/29 Carl von Einem 

> Harry,
>
> maybe you should also include a clear statement in your announcements of
> prerelease bundles on this list that what you publish via your own site are
> always non-official 'pre-release' versions meant for testing and providing
> feedback to the developers.
>
> On your website I propose to change the section "Hugin Release bundles" to
> something like this:
>  ***
>  _Where to find official Hugin Release bundles_
>
>  The software on this site is built from development versions
>  and as such is primarily meant for testing purposes. Chances
>  are that these downloads can be used to produce some
>  breathtaking panoramas but don't blame us if your Mac turns
>  into a coffee machine instead.
>
>  If you are looking for the latest official release bundles
>  please check out the "Download" section at hugin.sourceforge.net
>  or directly from the files section from Sourceforge. The current
>  version is 2010.0.0.
>
>  Have fun!
>  ***
>
> The following "Note:..." paragraph should be preceded by the headline which
> is currently following. The "(SVN)" part is obsolete, right? So maybe
> something like "Hugin 2010.x release candidates and other development
> versions".
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
>
Thanks for this suggestion. It is indeed much better. I copied it almost 1:1
to my site including the coffee machine reference (it's funny) but I think I
will change it to something else as it might scare off new users and the
builds are not that unstable (or are they?).

The SVN heading was just plain wrong. I simply overlooked it.

Harry

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Harry van der Wolf]

2010/9/29 T. Modes 

> Hi Harry,
>
> > I just checked and I don't understand where the 0.8 comes from.
>
> I think it's on the download page. On top there is the big "Get Hugin
> now" link.
> But if you scroll further down, you come to a section "Pre-compiled
> versions". There it links to version 0.8 for Mac and 0.7 for Windows.
>
> Thomas
>
>
You are right. I never get that far :)

Who can update the  page for both
the windows and mac build?
Do "we" as committers to the repositories also have access to the web pages?
It used to be that way when we were still on SVN but I can't find it right
now (but I didn't search very long knowing that "someone" can give me the
answer soon enough).

Harry

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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[T. Modes]

Hi Harry,

> I just checked and I don't understand where the 0.8 comes from.

I think it's on the download page. On top there is the big "Get Hugin
now" link.
But if you scroll further down, you come to a section "Pre-compiled
versions". There it links to version 0.8 for Mac and 0.7 for Windows.

Thomas

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Carl von Einem]

Hi ArAgost,

even on my outdated Mac (running OS X 10.4 while the 10.5 installation 
is slumbering on the other HD) Sourceforge links to a file called 
'hugin-mac-2010.0.0.dmg'. Hugin 2010.0 was released in March, the 
official build for Mac is available since 2010-03-25. So just visit 
hugin.sf.net again, click on "Download" and get yourself a copy.


Harry,

maybe you should also include a clear statement in your announcements of 
prerelease bundles on this list that what you publish via your own site 
are always non-official 'pre-release' versions meant for testing and 
providing feedback to the developers.


On your website I propose to change the section "Hugin Release bundles" 
to something like this:

 ***
 _Where to find official Hugin Release bundles_

 The software on this site is built from development versions
 and as such is primarily meant for testing purposes. Chances
 are that these downloads can be used to produce some
 breathtaking panoramas but don't blame us if your Mac turns
 into a coffee machine instead.

 If you are looking for the latest official release bundles
 please check out the "Download" section at hugin.sourceforge.net
 or directly from the files section from Sourceforge. The current
 version is 2010.0.0.

 Have fun!
 ***

The following "Note:..." paragraph should be preceded by the headline 
which is currently following. The "(SVN)" part is obsolete, right? So 
maybe something like "Hugin 2010.x release candidates and other 
development versions".


Cheers,
Carl

Harry van der Wolf schrieb am 29.09.10 16:20:



2010/9/29 Yuval Levy mailto:goo...@levy.ch>>

On September 28, 2010 06:55:33 pm ArAgost wrote:
 > While it's great to have an out-of-
 > the-box working Mac binary, it baffles me why the Hugin website only
 > links to the 0.8.0 binaries (!) and we have to scavenge on Harry's
 > personal site.

first of all, Harry has upload access to the official Hugin website.
  If he
has not added a binary there, it is probably because he has other
things to
do.

for the rest, I will let Harry answer the why and how.  All I can
say is:
don't worry about scavenging his personal site.  THe HTML is there,
but the
binaries themselves are on the panotools.org 
server.

Yuv


I just checked and I don't understand where the 0.8 comes from.
If you download from hugin.sourceforge.net
 from the download page (Get hugin now),
it will automatically download the latest >official< version for your
platform, which is "2010.0" for OSX (as that's the current official
release), and which is 2009-4-0 (Hugin_2009-4-0_win32_setup.exe) for
windows as that's obviously the latest official build.

If you go to the site using a a linux/un*x/*bsd/solaris box you'll get
the 2010.0.0.tar.gz,
if you use windows box you'll get a 2009-4-0 executable,
if you go to the site using a fine piece of art running MacOSX you'll
get a 2010.0.0 dmg.
(I tested them all)

But it's never 0.8.

Can you please explain where this 0.8 is mentioned or linked (or whatever)?

Harry

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Harry van der Wolf]

2010/9/29 Yuval Levy 

> On September 28, 2010 06:55:33 pm ArAgost wrote:
> > While it's great to have an out-of-
> > the-box working Mac binary, it baffles me why the Hugin website only
> > links to the 0.8.0 binaries (!) and we have to scavenge on Harry's
> > personal site.
>
> first of all, Harry has upload access to the official Hugin website.  If he
> has not added a binary there, it is probably because he has other things to
> do.
>
> for the rest, I will let Harry answer the why and how.  All I can say is:
> don't worry about scavenging his personal site.  THe HTML is there, but the
> binaries themselves are on the panotools.org server.
>
> Yuv
>


I just checked and I don't understand where the 0.8 comes from.

If you download from hugin.sourceforge.net from the download page (Get hugin
now), it will automatically download the latest >official< version for your
platform, which is "2010.0" for OSX (as that's the current official
release), and which is 2009-4-0 (Hugin_2009-4-0_win32_setup.exe) for windows
as that's obviously the latest official build.

If you go to the site using a a linux/un*x/*bsd/solaris box you'll get the
2010.0.0.tar.gz,
if you use windows box you'll get a 2009-4-0 executable,
if you go to the site using a fine piece of art running MacOSX you'll get a
2010.0.0 dmg.
(I tested them all)

But it's never 0.8.

Can you please explain where this 0.8 is mentioned or linked (or whatever)?

Harry

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Emad ud din Btt]

its seems there is no end to finding this endless proper BUILD problem.


On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Yuval Levy  wrote:

> On September 28, 2010 06:55:33 pm ArAgost wrote:
> > While it's great to have an out-of-
> > the-box working Mac binary, it baffles me why the Hugin website only
> > links to the 0.8.0 binaries (!) and we have to scavenge on Harry's
> > personal site.
>
> first of all, Harry has upload access to the official Hugin website.  If he
> has not added a binary there, it is probably because he has other things to
> do.
>
> for the rest, I will let Harry answer the why and how.  All I can say is:
> don't worry about scavenging his personal site.  THe HTML is there, but the
> binaries themselves are on the panotools.org server.
>
> Yuv
>



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Yuval Levy]

On September 28, 2010 06:55:33 pm ArAgost wrote:
> While it's great to have an out-of-
> the-box working Mac binary, it baffles me why the Hugin website only
> links to the 0.8.0 binaries (!) and we have to scavenge on Harry's
> personal site.

first of all, Harry has upload access to the official Hugin website.  If he 
has not added a binary there, it is probably because he has other things to 
do.

for the rest, I will let Harry answer the why and how.  All I can say is: 
don't worry about scavenging his personal site.  THe HTML is there, but the 
binaries themselves are on the panotools.org server.

Yuv


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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[ArAgost]

This may be a huge hurlde itself. I profoundly admire Harry's work
(I'd be lost without it!) and I directed there all my friends who were
interested in taking panoramas[1]. While it's great to have an out-of-
the-box working Mac binary, it baffles me why the Hugin website only
links to the 0.8.0 binaries (!) and we have to scavenge on Harry's
personal site.



[1] these friends asked me about panoramas after seeing some of my
work, which of course were all produced by hugin ;)

On 24 Set, 11:13, Carl von Einem  wrote:
> On Mac OS X you just need to download an image (dmg) or a zip file from
> Harry's site [1], open that and drag the contents do the desired folder.
> hugin installation done... (hugin-mac-2010.2.0-rc1-p2 from 18 Sept 2010
> works fine on my oldish G5 PowerMac)
>
> Next step is to once download the needed CP generators as described in
> the folder "Control Point Generators" that comes with hugin. Just follow
> what's written in "Read me first (Mac).rtfd".
>
> What other hurdles do you see?
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> Gareth schrieb am 24.09.10 10:23:
>
>
>
> > However, I still gather lots of useful information from this
> > community, and perhaps will revisit Hugin as a tool when I can easily
> > install and configure on my Macbook.
>
> [1]
> 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Emad ud din Btt]

Yuv,

My intention was not make comparisons. I just shared my experience. I have
spend time to learn hugin and thanks for this group for all the support. I
had no intent to disgrace Hugin or team :)

Yuv, I really appreciate your feedbacks. Hugin is ahead of other softwares
in term of final image quality as well:)



On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Yuval Levy  wrote:

> Hi Emad,
>
> On September 25, 2010 01:41:14 am Emad ud din Btt wrote:
> > Its open source but I think this feature is for developers.
>
> that's a misconception.  Open Source has more advantages for the users than
> for the developers.  Contrast the history of Freehand [0] with that of
> Blender
> [1] and think of the users who have spent hours/days/week to develop
> expertise
> in Freehand and what their time-investment is worth now.
>
>
> > Normal user will not want to go and add %p %o %s in autopano-sift
> > parameters for multirow pano. He will want to just load pics and get pano
>
> Your definition of 'normal' reflects your wishes. Hugin is for every user
> what
> they make it for themselves and there is no such thing as a 'normal user'.
>
> The best matching products for a user with the wish described above is
> Autopano Pro.  "Just load pics and get pano".  No other software known to
> me,
> commercial or Free, matches this sentence better than Autopano Pro.  It was
> designed with exactly this use case in mind.
>
>
> > I hope in one year time it will at par
> > with commercial softwares.
>
> I do not like comparisons.  That said, depends on what you measure, Hugin
> is
> already "at par" with commercial software on some metrics.  On other
> metrics
> it is "ahead" and on other metrics it is "behind".  The question is: which
> metric is more important to you.  If it is an automated process with as
> little
> human intervention as possible, go with Autopano Pro - it is ahead and will
> stay ahead for many years to come.  If your metric is "detailed and precise
> assisted control of image placement on the panosphere or on the mosaic
> plane",
> Hugin is ahead.  It all depends on what your need is.
>
> If you need to drive fast from A to B, why torture yourself with a bus when
> you can have a sportscar? on the other hand, if you need to get a lot of
> gear
> from A to B, why torture yourself with a sportscar when you can have a
> truck?
>
> Rather than setting yourself up for disappointment, choose the right tool
> for
> you.
>
>
> > I am a windows user and I feel there is lack of technical resource person
> > for windows users. Most of hugin team is not using windows. Thats why it
> > creates issues. Is there anyone looking after windows builds that they
> are
> > accurate and uptodate? or we have to shift to Ubuntu lolzzz
>
> would you still feel there is a lack of technical resource person for
> windows
> users if that person would charge you 60$/hour for her support/advice?
>
> there are enough people looking after windows builds - actually from the
> names
> I've seen flying over the past few weeks on the list more than for any
> platform.  But they have to deal with issues that are solved automatically
> by
> more efficient platforms.  I can tell from my own experience that building
> and
> packaging Hugin for Windows was much more painful than doing it it for
> Kubuntu.
>
> That said, I am not advocating that you shift to Ubuntu.  Use what works
> best
> in your situation.
>
> Yuv
>
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Gareth  wrote:
> > > Carl,
> > >
> > > I've just checked the last Hugin image I installed, which was hugin-
> > > mac-2010-1.0.0 from early June. I know from the list that things have
> > > changed since then so perhaps I should give Hugin another try, when I
> > > have some spare moments.
> > >
> > > On Sep 24, 1:05 pm, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> > > > On September 24, 2010 05:34:05 am kfj wrote:
> > > > > special thanks to Yuval Levy, you have really made an effort to
> work
> > > > > things out for me so I can take heart, get over my frustration and
> > > > > maybe end up doing something productive.
> > > >
> > > > happy to read my words were helpful to you.  I am sure you will do
> > >
> > > something
> > >
> > > > productive, whether with PTgui, Hugin, or whatever other software you
> > >
> > > will
> > >
> > > > apply your brains to.
> > > >
> > > > > I'm well willing to struggle up
> > > > > the learning curve to get things working. And I'll look into what I
> > > > > can do to make the problems that bug me go away.
> > > >
> > > > You're already on the right path.  Fire up questions to this list,
> > > > you'll often get help and advice from people who have "been there
> done
> > > > that".
> > > >
> > > > Even if you're going to "unchartered territories", you'll get help
> and
> > >
> > > support
> > >
> > > > along the way, as you can witness in your recent thread about
> building
> > >
> > > libpano
> > >
> > > > on MinGW.
> > > >
> > > > Yuv
> > > >
> > > >  signature.asc
> > > >
> > > > < 1KViewDow

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Michael Witten]

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 00:41, Emad ud din Btt  wrote:
> Normal user will not want to go and add %p %o %s in autopano-sift parameters
> for multirow pano.

What are you talking about?

> He will want to just load pics and get pano :)

That is essentially the kind of experience I usually have, even with
'multirow' panos.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Yuval Levy]

Hi Emad,

On September 25, 2010 01:41:14 am Emad ud din Btt wrote:
> Its open source but I think this feature is for developers.

that's a misconception.  Open Source has more advantages for the users than 
for the developers.  Contrast the history of Freehand [0] with that of Blender 
[1] and think of the users who have spent hours/days/week to develop expertise 
in Freehand and what their time-investment is worth now.


> Normal user will not want to go and add %p %o %s in autopano-sift
> parameters for multirow pano. He will want to just load pics and get pano

Your definition of 'normal' reflects your wishes. Hugin is for every user what 
they make it for themselves and there is no such thing as a 'normal user'.

The best matching products for a user with the wish described above is 
Autopano Pro.  "Just load pics and get pano".  No other software known to me, 
commercial or Free, matches this sentence better than Autopano Pro.  It was 
designed with exactly this use case in mind.


> I hope in one year time it will at par
> with commercial softwares.

I do not like comparisons.  That said, depends on what you measure, Hugin is 
already "at par" with commercial software on some metrics.  On other metrics 
it is "ahead" and on other metrics it is "behind".  The question is: which 
metric is more important to you.  If it is an automated process with as little 
human intervention as possible, go with Autopano Pro - it is ahead and will 
stay ahead for many years to come.  If your metric is "detailed and precise 
assisted control of image placement on the panosphere or on the mosaic plane", 
Hugin is ahead.  It all depends on what your need is.

If you need to drive fast from A to B, why torture yourself with a bus when 
you can have a sportscar? on the other hand, if you need to get a lot of gear 
from A to B, why torture yourself with a sportscar when you can have a truck?

Rather than setting yourself up for disappointment, choose the right tool for 
you.

 
> I am a windows user and I feel there is lack of technical resource person
> for windows users. Most of hugin team is not using windows. Thats why it
> creates issues. Is there anyone looking after windows builds that they are
> accurate and uptodate? or we have to shift to Ubuntu lolzzz

would you still feel there is a lack of technical resource person for windows 
users if that person would charge you 60$/hour for her support/advice?

there are enough people looking after windows builds - actually from the names 
I've seen flying over the past few weeks on the list more than for any 
platform.  But they have to deal with issues that are solved automatically by 
more efficient platforms.  I can tell from my own experience that building and 
packaging Hugin for Windows was much more painful than doing it it for 
Kubuntu.

That said, I am not advocating that you shift to Ubuntu.  Use what works best 
in your situation.

Yuv

> 
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Gareth  wrote:
> > Carl,
> > 
> > I've just checked the last Hugin image I installed, which was hugin-
> > mac-2010-1.0.0 from early June. I know from the list that things have
> > changed since then so perhaps I should give Hugin another try, when I
> > have some spare moments.
> > 
> > On Sep 24, 1:05 pm, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> > > On September 24, 2010 05:34:05 am kfj wrote:
> > > > special thanks to Yuval Levy, you have really made an effort to work
> > > > things out for me so I can take heart, get over my frustration and
> > > > maybe end up doing something productive.
> > > 
> > > happy to read my words were helpful to you.  I am sure you will do
> > 
> > something
> > 
> > > productive, whether with PTgui, Hugin, or whatever other software you
> > 
> > will
> > 
> > > apply your brains to.
> > > 
> > > > I'm well willing to struggle up
> > > > the learning curve to get things working. And I'll look into what I
> > > > can do to make the problems that bug me go away.
> > > 
> > > You're already on the right path.  Fire up questions to this list,
> > > you'll often get help and advice from people who have "been there done
> > > that".
> > > 
> > > Even if you're going to "unchartered territories", you'll get help and
> > 
> > support
> > 
> > > along the way, as you can witness in your recent thread about building
> > 
> > libpano
> > 
> > > on MinGW.
> > > 
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Emad ud din Btt]

Hi,

I am using Hugin for almost 2 years time now. I stick with hugin because its
free. Its open source but I think this feature is for developers. i am just
a normal end user. Over the period of time I have used Autopano and PTGUI.
Hugin is free but you have to pay the price of working hard in learning it
:) Major difference between hugin and other softwares is for normal users.
Normal user will not want to go and add %p %o %s in autopano-sift parameters
for multirow pano. He will want to just load pics and get pano :)

I have experienced hugin growing and adding lots of features in these two
years. I have learnt hugin by posting my issues on this group and there are
lots of people to help you out. Hugin is Opensoure hope in panoramic
photography. I am with hugin and I hope in one year time it will at par with
commercial softwares.

I am a windows user and I feel there is lack of technical resource person
for windows users. Most of hugin team is not using windows. Thats why it
creates issues. Is there anyone looking after windows builds that they are
accurate and uptodate? or we have to shift to Ubuntu lolzzz



On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Gareth  wrote:

> Carl,
>
> I've just checked the last Hugin image I installed, which was hugin-
> mac-2010-1.0.0 from early June. I know from the list that things have
> changed since then so perhaps I should give Hugin another try, when I
> have some spare moments.
>
>
> On Sep 24, 1:05 pm, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> > On September 24, 2010 05:34:05 am kfj wrote:
> >
> > > special thanks to Yuval Levy, you have really made an effort to work
> > > things out for me so I can take heart, get over my frustration and
> > > maybe end up doing something productive.
> >
> > happy to read my words were helpful to you.  I am sure you will do
> something
> > productive, whether with PTgui, Hugin, or whatever other software you
> will
> > apply your brains to.
> >
> > > I'm well willing to struggle up
> > > the learning curve to get things working. And I'll look into what I
> > > can do to make the problems that bug me go away.
> >
> > You're already on the right path.  Fire up questions to this list, you'll
> > often get help and advice from people who have "been there done that".
> >
> > Even if you're going to "unchartered territories", you'll get help and
> support
> > along the way, as you can witness in your recent thread about building
> libpano
> > on MinGW.
> >
> > Yuv
> >
> >  signature.asc
> > < 1KViewDownload
>
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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Gareth]

Carl,

I've just checked the last Hugin image I installed, which was hugin-
mac-2010-1.0.0 from early June. I know from the list that things have
changed since then so perhaps I should give Hugin another try, when I
have some spare moments.


On Sep 24, 1:05 pm, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> On September 24, 2010 05:34:05 am kfj wrote:
>
> > special thanks to Yuval Levy, you have really made an effort to work
> > things out for me so I can take heart, get over my frustration and
> > maybe end up doing something productive.
>
> happy to read my words were helpful to you.  I am sure you will do something
> productive, whether with PTgui, Hugin, or whatever other software you will
> apply your brains to.
>
> > I'm well willing to struggle up
> > the learning curve to get things working. And I'll look into what I
> > can do to make the problems that bug me go away.
>
> You're already on the right path.  Fire up questions to this list, you'll
> often get help and advice from people who have "been there done that".
>
> Even if you're going to "unchartered territories", you'll get help and support
> along the way, as you can witness in your recent thread about building libpano
> on MinGW.
>
> Yuv
>
>  signature.asc
> < 1KViewDownload

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Yuval Levy]

On September 24, 2010 05:34:05 am kfj wrote:
> special thanks to Yuval Levy, you have really made an effort to work
> things out for me so I can take heart, get over my frustration and 
> maybe end up doing something productive.

happy to read my words were helpful to you.  I am sure you will do something 
productive, whether with PTgui, Hugin, or whatever other software you will 
apply your brains to.


> I'm well willing to struggle up
> the learning curve to get things working. And I'll look into what I
> can do to make the problems that bug me go away.

You're already on the right path.  Fire up questions to this list, you'll 
often get help and advice from people who have "been there done that".

Even if you're going to "unchartered territories", you'll get help and support 
along the way, as you can witness in your recent thread about building libpano 
on MinGW.

Yuv


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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[kfj]

Thank you all for your echo to my hugin blues rant! And special thanks
to Yuval Levy, you have really made an effort to work things out for
me so I can take heart, get over my frustration and maybe end up doing
something productive. I could go on now about to finer points of my
criticism and be less vague about why I moaned about this or that, but
I feel that would be besides the point and I should rather direct
specific criticism to specific places/threads/recipients.

Let me add that I am using very recent Windows builds to good success
- I really don't mind the odd bug or crash, as long as I can make my
way. I really appreciate some newer features - like the fast preview,
mosaic mode or the masking tool, and I'm well willing to struggle up
the learning curve to get things working. And I'll look into what I
can do to make the problems that bug me go away.

with regards
KFJ

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Carl von Einem]

On Mac OS X you just need to download an image (dmg) or a zip file from 
Harry's site [1], open that and drag the contents do the desired folder. 
hugin installation done... (hugin-mac-2010.2.0-rc1-p2 from 18 Sept 2010 
works fine on my oldish G5 PowerMac)


Next step is to once download the needed CP generators as described in 
the folder "Control Point Generators" that comes with hugin. Just follow 
what's written in "Read me first (Mac).rtfd".


What other hurdles do you see?

Cheers,
Carl

Gareth schrieb am 24.09.10 10:23:


However, I still gather lots of useful information from this
community, and perhaps will revisit Hugin as a tool when I can easily
install and configure on my Macbook.



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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Gareth]

I'd like to add my thoughts here on why I liked Hugin, but decided to
use PTgui.

I've just started with Panorama software, and am looking to integrate
Panos and VR tours into my photography business.
I'm a great advocate of Open source software, and was pleased to find
Hugin, and it's associated programs. I've also a long track recored in
computing before moving to photography as a career, so I was happy to
tackle the challenges of getting Hugin to work
However, after a number of trials, and some success with Hugin, I
bought PTgui. I could get good (perhaps not perfect) results quickly
with PTgui that I couldn't do with Hugin. And my criteria for choosing
the software was getting my knowledge up and the ability to get a
product to market as soon as possible - so the use of commercial
software and consequent timesaving was, for me, the correct decision.

These days I do most of my work on a Mac, having migrated from
windows. I had some difficulty in installing and getting everything to
work on this platform. It wasn't practical for me to use my Windows
desktop to stitch panos but travel with a Macbook when taking the
images. I guess the final thing was actually gathering up to date
information on both program installation and operation - a common
problem with open source.

However, I still gather lots of useful information from this
community, and perhaps will revisit Hugin as a tool when I can easily
install and configure on my Macbook.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues

[Tduell]

Hullo KJF,

On Sep 24, 6:06 am, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[snip]

> From whatever angle I approach hugin, it's an uphill struggle. And I
> really want to like it and use it and recommend it, because I'm all
> for free software, and because I know there is a really good program
> inside hugin that is struggling to come out!

I read your story a couple of times, and drafted a few responses
before this one.
As Bruno says, there do seem to be problems with Windows builds.
I would suggest installing VirtualBox with a linux guest and trying
one of the available hugin linux packages.
There are builds available for Fedora and I think also for Ubuntu.
The release versions of hugin on linux are usually very stable and not
too difficult to come to grips with. There is an initial learning
curve, but that isn't unusual, and after that it isn't difficult and
works quite well.
I have had problems, from time to time, with builds of the trunk, but
that is part of the testing process and to be expected.
Hopefully you will get a better experience trying a linux build, and
that some of the Windows builders will take the discussion and help
you get a Windows build sorted.
Just my two bob's worth.

Cheers,
Terry

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