Adabas

[Marian Gasparovic]

Hi all,
we have a customer who will migrate from OS/390 2.9. do z/OS 1.4(or 6)
They run Adabas. Is anybody aware of any specific problems regarding
Adabas in zOS ?
Thank you

Marian Gasparovic

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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[Ted MacNEIL]

...
Only reference i've found so far is that z/OS 1.4 can coexist
with z/OS 1.5, thru
 1.7, but nothing about parallel sysplex.
...

Interesting, because that is exactly what SYSPLEX co-existance means.

1.3 cannot run in the same SYSPLEX as 1.7 & 1.4 cannot run with 1.8.

It's N through N-3.

What 'unsupported' means is if something breaks, IBM will not fix it.
They may do it on a 'time & materials' basis; there's so guarantee that they 
will (or will still have the skills/knowledge to) do so.


-teD
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Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration

[Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM]

Steve (C),

if you still need a newsserver, there are a number of totally free
newsservers around on the internet, no subscription needed, usually no
posting allowed, but you don't need this since you must post via email.
If you need one, Google for "free newsservers", there are lists maintained
by hobbiests (as there are hobbiests for anything you can think of on the
internet).
At the moment I use 204.153.244.171 already for a year or so.

Kees.

"Steve Samson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Steve,
> 
> Ah, but Thunderbird does have a news client--that is what I'm using 
> right now. The first screen in the Add Account dialog asks if you want 
> to set up an e-mail account, an RSS/blog account, or a newsgroup 
> account. Just follow the dialogs.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Steve
> 
> Steve Comstock wrote:
> > Steve Samson wrote:
> > 
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> Go to Tools-Account Settings to set up each newsgroup account. The one 
> >> for IBM-MAIN as a newsgroup is any general newsgroup server, usually 
> >> one provided by your ISP. If you can't get here that way, try 
> >> Teranews.com.
> >>


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Communication Controller for Linux

[Tonni J Ottosen]

Hi  List -

Has anybody  gained experience in setting up/using CCL?
Any tips/hints  are welcome.

Thanks in advance,


Regards

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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM]

"Ted MacNEIL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> ..
> Only reference i've found so far is that z/OS 1.4 can coexist
> with z/OS 1.5, thru
>  1.7, but nothing about parallel sysplex.
> ..
> 
> Interesting, because that is exactly what SYSPLEX co-existance means.

Co-existence limitations do not need to be restricted to sysplex.
Non-sysplex systems do also communicate and interact (JES, GRS etc. etc.)
and the limitations also apply to that broader level, which include sysplex
systems.

Kees.


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Re: DEVSUPxx questions

[R.S.]

Brian Peterson wrote:
[...]
Brian,
Thank you for your help. Now it's clear - I have 3592 support, but only 
"basic" one - MEDIA5, but not MEDIA6,7,8.


BTW: PSP is one of the most complicated things in mainframe world. 
First: 3592DEVICE - how could I obtain the name? Where is it documented? 
Then I get bunch of FMIDs, APARs, PTFs, for all supported system levels. 
Finally I can manually filter the list and get the PTFs. No single 
package like "3592 support for z/OS 1.4".


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Re: WORM tape mount - type mismatch

[Natasa Savinc]

I didn't specify DEVSUPxx. I also read that HSM can only use WORM for
ABACKUP, so I will start form there and redesign my plans for WORM usage.
Thank you all for help.
Regards,
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Max. size of pageds?

[Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM]

Hello,

While moving to 3390-9 devices, I want to enlarge our pageds, but am not
sure of the limits.

>From OW54255 I found that the maximum size is now 4GB, if SADUMP must be
able to process it.
>From z/OS V1R3.0 DFSMS Access Method Services for Catalogs: 17.1.1 I read
that the maximum size is 16M slots, so 64 GB.

Is this correct? 
So I should limit a pageds to half a 3390-9?

Kees.



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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[R.S.]

Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:


"Ted MacNEIL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...


..
Only reference i've found so far is that z/OS 1.4 can coexist
with z/OS 1.5, thru
1.7, but nothing about parallel sysplex.
..

Interesting, because that is exactly what SYSPLEX co-existance means.



Co-existence limitations do not need to be restricted to sysplex.
Non-sysplex systems do also communicate and interact (JES, GRS etc. etc.)
and the limitations also apply to that broader level, which include sysplex
systems.


Non-sysplex communication is usually less restricted. Obvious example 
would be TCP/IP connection, ftp transfer etc. but also NJE (JES) 
communication is much less restrictive - it support quite old releases 
(AFAIK MVS, pre-OS/390).
What is usually restricted to N-3 it is all kinds of datasharing, using 
coupling facility (PSysplex) or just sharing of control datasets, like 
RACfdb, RMM, HSM, SMS CDSes, etc.


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Re: WORM tape mount - type mismatch

[Mike Wood]

Natasa,  HSM currently only supports WORM tapes for ABARS; ABACKUP and
ARECOVER.
If you, or anyone else, believes they have a good reason to use WORM for
other HSM functions please let HSM development know. They really do want
to know why someone would want to do this. One way to do this might be to
raise a ETR/PMR and explain your requirement; I am sure that would get to
them.

Mike WoodRMM Development
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:44:45 -0500, Natasa Savinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Hello,
>we have 4-way HSMplex. ML2 migration is directed to 3590 tapes. I wanted
to
>direct migration on one system to 3592 (WORM) tapes. I changed SETSYS
>definitions in ARCCMD member, created SMS constructs for WORM tapes,
>updated ACS routines and added VLPOOL definition in DFSMSrmm. When I tried
>migration, I see that the 3590 tape is being mounted on 3592 drive. This,
>of course, ends in error. Any ideas what else should be specified for this
>to work?
>Regards,
>Natasa

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Fwd: Adabas

[Walter Marguccio]

Marian,
we have the same environment and we're going to
migrate in two weeks time. So far we didn't experience
any major problem for Adabas on the new z/OS, but I'll
drop a post on this list or let you know offline in
case we face any issue.

Best regards

Walter Marguccio
 
--- Marian Gasparovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> we have a customer who will migrate from OS/390 2.9.
> do z/OS 1.4(or 6)
> They run Adabas. Is anybody aware of any specific
> problems regarding
> Adabas in zOS ?
> Thank you
> 

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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[Edward E. Jaffe]

Ted MacNEIL wrote:


It's N through N-3.
 



It used to be n-3. When IBM changed z/OS to an annual release schedule, 
they also changed the coexistence policy to be "all supported releases". 
That simplification of the coexistence policy was (IMHO) the only really 
good thing that came from the release schedule change.


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Re: IPCS missing module

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/27/2005
   at 09:41 AM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>We've installed z/OS 1.6.   We are moving from OS/390 V2R9.

>In the new Z/OS IPCS system (under TSO) I seem to be missing a
>module.

>When selecting an option under analyze, I get the

>CSV003I REQUESTED MODULE IARZINIT NOT FOUND

That might indicate a mismatch between your exit definitions and your
MIGLIB. Are you using the new exit definitions from z/OS or did you
carry the old definitions forward from OS/390?
 
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Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/26/2005
   at 12:12 PM, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>usenet
>usegroups
>newsgroups
>listservs

>The subtleties between these I've never really
>focused on, but they are becoming important to
>me now.

Usenet and[1] Network News refers to the facility. The term usegroups
is nonstandard; you'll have to ask whoever used it what he means. A
newsgroup is a named abstract entity on Usenet, which you identify on
the Newsgroups header field of a news article. Listserv is a common
mailing list program; the word also refers to a server running that
program.

>I don't see a way to set up a connection to / account with, say, 
comp.lang.cobol.

There is no such thing. You set up an account on a news server, then
you subscribe to comp.lang.cobol on that server.

[1] There are subtle distinctions, but I don't believe that you need
to worry about them in this context.
 
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Re: Write Tape-Cardrige with a PC?

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/27/2005
   at 01:27 PM, Michael Knigge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>is it somehow possible to write "standard" Tape-Cardridges with a PC

Yes; the drive will cost more than the PC, but is not out of line.
 
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Re: z/OS future needs was Re: USS in a "legacy" world

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/26/2005
   at 08:33 AM, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>All data is either UTF-32 text or binary

Why not provide for optionally storing data in the more compact UTF8
and UTF16? They could still be presented to the applications as UTF32.
You need the transform code regardless, so why not take advantage of
it?

>Never need a code page again.

You'll still need the accursed things for communication with the
outside world.

>Never have competing architectures

That's what IBM claimed for S/360; the competing[1] IBM architectures
came on its heels, in droves.

[1] E.g., S/7, S/1, S/3, 8100.

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Re: z/OS future needs was Re: USS in a "legacy" world

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/25/2005
   at 11:32 PM, Clark Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Since the actual hardware is FBA now and the magic is done in the
>controller, I see no need for the CKD oriented access methods to be
>ported to new style devices.

I wasn't suggesting new device-dependent code for the old access
methods; I was suggesting a compatibility interface similar to that
used to allow you to open a DCB to a subsystem data set. Currently
OPEN has the ability to automatically acquire an ACB, open it and link
it to the DCB. I suspect that IBM could lift from VSE and OS/VS1 what
little code is needed beyond what is already there for SYSOUT.

>Given the graying, balding and aging of the MVS etc. community, 
>the BPAM and BSAM applications are fast becoming a millstone around 
>the necks of our organizations.

That won't make them go away. They are an economic reality, and if IBM
wants to retain the customer base then it will need to provide for a
smooth migration.

>The need is to move any still needed functions of BPAM and BSAM to 
>newer architectures, not to move BPAM and BSAM. 

No, the need is to preserve investment. The customer doesn't care
about "architecture"; he cares about fiscal issues, one of which is
the residual value of code that he has already spent a lot of money
one. Tell him that he must spend additional money to rewrite that code
and you have removed his incentive to stay with IBM.

Also, your statement has an implication contrary to fact. There was no
proposal to "move BPAM and BSAM"; there was a proposal to provide a
device-independent CI.

>I agree that changes to name lengths and use of Unicode will require 
>drastic changes to the BCP but the combination of FBA and name length 
>and character set changes will have a drastic impact on the JESs.

Why?

>Any course of action will have
>to be able to be executed in incremental steps.

If you acknowledge that, then why do you oppose the CI that is
necessary in order to make it incremental?
 
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Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/27/2005
   at 05:06 AM, Dave Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Oh yes. Our Net Nanny is VERY strict, no possibility of smut is
>allowed.

IME, there's a far higher chance of getting smut from e-mail than from
Usenet. If they're worried about smut, they'd do far better to start
blocking traffic from known spam sources instead of making an ignorant
assumption[1] that smut=Usenet or smut=web.

[1] You'd have to put it more diplomatically if you discussed it with
your management ;-)
 
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Re: Vtoc free information

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/27/2005
   at 10:59 AM, "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>What do you mean ?

He means subtraction, division and multiplication by 100. It may not
by the most convenient way, but the data are there.

>Volume free does not imply vtoc free.

And oranges aren't aardvarks. He said nothing about subtracting space
allocated from space free. He obviously meant to subtract the number
of allocated DSCB's from the total number.

>You can have volume full with vtoc free 50% or vtoc full with free
>space  on the volume.

Nu, so how does that startling revelation help the OP?
 
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Re: Vtoc free information

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/27/2005
   at 02:59 AM, Wang Rong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>We can use ISPF 3.4 to get information of a volume's VTOC used%
>information, can any batch jobs also do that?

Sure, e.g., FDREPORT, ISPF, PDS85, StarTools.
 
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Re: ISKE/IVSK

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/26/2005
   at 01:38 PM, "Edward E. Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Since when??

My recollection is OS/360 Release 18. Certainly by R20.

>Huh?? Which form of IDENTIFY do you believe can be used to create a 
>major CDE from GETMAINed virtual storage?

The one documented in the old Linkage Editor and Loader PLM.
 
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Re: Need pointer to another listserv

[Gray, Larry - Larry A]

Try [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The name is WEBSPHERE.  

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Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R.
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Subject: Need pointer to another listserv


I know this is the wrong spot to ask this question but we're a brand-new
WebSphere shop (on p-series, nonetheless).  Can anybody point me to a
listserv similar to this one but for WebSphere admin?

Thanks.

Rex


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CISP VISA compliance

[Davis Kriss P]

 
Dear Colleagues, 

I know this is more of a business question, but perhaps some of you have
been involved in the technical compliance part of this.

There are new credit card compliance rules (firewall placement, etc.)
coming into effect for VISA credit card transactions.  
 
There seems to be two parts (we are tier 2 based on our transaction
loads and VISA's CISP documentation).

1.  The periodic scan of our servers/system by a certified "scanner" to
make sure our systems are secure.

2.  The self-assessment Q and A document we need to fill out
periodically.


I would be interested if anyone has used a consulting firm for one or
both compliance parts.  The Q and A part we have reviewed just is not
clear enough to us to know what VISA is asking for in certain
situations.  Getting someone in that has a track record and knowledge of
the ins and outs of the CISP specification to help us would be great.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: IPCS missing module

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/28/2005 6:56:15 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That  might indicate a mismatch between your exit definitions and your
MIGLIB.  Are you using the new exit definitions from z/OS or did you
carry the old  definitions forward from OS/390?



>>
As Brian and Jim reaffirmed, IPCSPARM is probably first place to
look. As I thought about this(don't have a 1.6 system). Could
be procedural in moving old panels and datasets to new system
or having old panels and libraries ahead of 1.6 libraries in
LOGON proc. Didn't say how it was built, in prior releases there's
a sample CLIST ISPPDF that does the basic allocations and fires
up a support menu. Might do a comparison with that and LOGON proc
to spot obvious differences

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Re: ISKE/IVSK

[Edward E. Jaffe]

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:


In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/26/2005
  at 01:38 PM, "Edward E. Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

 


Since when??
   



My recollection is OS/360 Release 18. Certainly by R20.

 

Huh?? Which form of IDENTIFY do you believe can be used to create a 
major CDE from GETMAINed virtual storage?
   



The one documented in the old Linkage Editor and Loader PLM.
 



That capability was removed in MVS. Didn't you get the memo?

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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[Ted MacNEIL]

...
Non-sysplex systems do also communicate and interact (JES, GRS etc. etc.)
and the limitations also apply to that broader level, which include sysplex
systems
...

JES/NJE(P) is not restricted to n-3.
It never has been.

GRS does not communicate outside of an instance of MVS (SYSPLEX is considered 
an instance).

Co-existance (in my mind) has always meant within a SYSPLEX.

The original quote was a SYSPLEX one.
If I wanted to, I could communicate with an XA system through NJE from a z/OS 
system.
I would just have to ensure I don't use constructs that are not supported by XA.

-teD
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Re: Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration question (COBOL)

[Joe Zitzelberger]

On Jun 24, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
06/23/2005
   at 01:33 PM, Bill Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


With FLAG(I,I) which became the default at the same time as DBCS, the
message *does* appear exactly AFTER the line (inserted by the
preprocessor) which follows the originally coded line.  As the mesage
also tells the column where the problem exists, it should be pretty
obvious where the problem was.  (Again - or at least it would be to
me)


Okay, so you look at column 50 in the listing and you see a blank? Now
what? It would help if the message included the offending literal
text, in hexadecimal, and explained SI and SO for the benefit of those
who have no reason to understand DBCS. If I didn't know what DBCS was
I would have found the message to be totally opaque, and as is I still
wouldn't have known what the offending data were.


While column 50 might look blank iff you are using a printed listing  
(a rarity in the days of syntax highlighting editors and a waste of  
trees) -- the surrounding columns would have something like:


Move 'a 0d 2 ic$k34 d  pd e,x d' to DFHEI1234

That should be enough for anyone to realize it is a translator problem.

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Re: HFS dismount

[Matthew Stitt]

OK, here is the output from the Z/OS 1.4 system:
BPXF041I 2005/06/28 08.42.30 MODIFY BPXOINIT,FILESYS=DISPLAY,GLOBAL
SYSTEM   LFS VERSION ---STATUS- RECOMMENDED ACTION
ENGI   1.  1.  6 VERIFIED   NONE
SAND   1.  4.  3 VERIFIED   NONE
CDS VERSION=  2MIN LFS VERSION=  1.  1.  6
BRLM SERVER=N/ADEVICE NUMBER OF LAST MOUNT= 145
MAXIMUM MOUNT ENTRIES= 500   MOUNT ENTRIES IN USE=  17
MAXIMUM AMTRULES=   50   AMTRULES IN USE=2
DISTBRLM ENABLED=YES DISTBRLM ACTIVE=YES
BPXF040I MODIFY BPXOINIT,FILESYS PROCESSING IS COMPLETE.

And here is the OS/390 2.10 system:
BPXF041I 2005/06/28 08.43.54 MODIFY BPXOINIT,FILESYS=DISPLAY,GLOBAL 563
SYSTEM   LFS VERSION ---STATUS- RECOMMENDED ACTION
ENGI   1.  1.  6 VERIFIED   NONE
SAND   1.  4.  3 VERIFIED   NONE
CDS VERSION=  2MIN LFS VERSION=  1.  1.  6
BPXF040I MODIFY BPXOINIT,FILESYS PROCESSING IS COMPLETE.
BRLM SERVER=N/ADEVICE ID OF LAST MOUNT= 145


Last night we IPL'd the programming LPAR.  The other two Lpars lost their HFS's 
when the BPXSTOP STC was running.  This caused an IPL of the production LPAR 
(not a good thing).  At this time, the systems LPAR (Z/OS 1.4) still has no 
HFS's mounted and needs to be IPL'd.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Justice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jun 27, 2005 7:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HFS dismount


I ran with SHARED HFS under OS/390 2.9 and didn't run into problems.

can you give a little more detail, like a D OMVS,F  and which HFS's are 
being unmounted  that shouldn't be?

What does F BPXOINIT,FILESYS=D,GLOBAL show you?






- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Stitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:10 PM
Subject: HFS dismount


> We recently converted to SYSPLEX OMVS configuration.  We have a situation
> where the HFS's for another system are being dismounted when we shut one
> system down.  The command sequence is
> 1.  F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKINIT
> 2.  F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKS
>
> The HFS's being unmounted are marked as NOAUTOMOVE.
>
> This is OS/390 2.10 (on its way to Z/OS 1.4).
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[Ted MacNEIL]

...
It used to be n-3. When IBM changed z/OS to an annual release schedule, 
they also changed the coexistence policy to be "all supported releases".
...

Semantics.
1.4 through 1.7 is N-3 to N.
Do the math.  (8-{]}


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Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration

[Tuco Bonno]

would you care to elaborate a little bit on 204.153.244.171, please?
i plug that ip address in my browser and only get a message back
saying
page contains no data; i ran a nslookup on that ip address, which
returned a
name 'host171.octanews.net' ; when i use *that* in my browser, all i
get is a message back saying 'host171.octanews.net' could not be found
  
tia

   ==

/s/ tuco bonno

graduate, College of Conflict Management,
University of Southeast Asia.
"I partied on the Ho Chi Minh trail"

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28-Jun-05 03:51:13 >>>
Steve (C),

if you still need a newsserver, there are a number of totally free
newsservers around on the internet, no subscription needed, usually no
posting allowed, but you don't need this since you must post via
email.
If you need one, Google for "free newsservers", there are lists
maintained
by hobbiests (as there are hobbiests for anything you can think of on
the
internet).
At the moment I use 204.153.244.171 already for a year or so.

Kees.

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Re: Vtoc free information

[Gerhard Postpischil]

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

Sure, e.g., FDREPORT, ISPF, PDS85, StarTools.


I'm surprised nobody has offered the obvious way yet - a small assembler 
program using LSPACE macro and SVC. Old form reports only free DSCBs, 
new form includes free VIRs.


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: Vtoc free information

[Gerhard Postpischil]

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

You can have volume full with vtoc free 50% or vtoc full with free
space  on the volume.


Nu, so how does that startling revelation help the OP?


It allows the OP to call you at 3 a.m. to inform you of an imminent problem.

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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IBM announcements

[Richards.Bob]

Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

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Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration

[Perryman, Brian]

Instead of http:// use news://



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Tuco Bonno
Sent: 28 June 2005 13:55
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration


would you care to elaborate a little bit on 204.153.244.171, please?
i plug that ip address in my browser and only get a message back
saying
page contains no data; i ran a nslookup on that ip address, which
returned a
name 'host171.octanews.net' ; when i use *that* in my browser, all i
get is a message back saying 'host171.octanews.net' could not be found
  
tia

   ==

/s/ tuco bonno

graduate, College of Conflict Management,
University of Southeast Asia.
"I partied on the Ho Chi Minh trail"

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28-Jun-05 03:51:13 >>>
Steve (C),

if you still need a newsserver, there are a number of totally free
newsservers around on the internet, no subscription needed, usually no
posting allowed, but you don't need this since you must post via
email.
If you need one, Google for "free newsservers", there are lists
maintained
by hobbiests (as there are hobbiests for anything you can think of on
the
internet).
At the moment I use 204.153.244.171 already for a year or so.

Kees.

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Re: WORM tape mount - type mismatch

[Natasa Savinc]

Mike,
we had an idea to archive some data that way - one copy on one media (EMC
Centera), and another on WORM tape as some kind of backup to the first one.
HSM seemed like a logical choice, because it can fill a tape (but obviously
not WORM), and it has some kind of record keeping capability.

I have RMM related question about WORM - how can I return WORM tape to
scratch? I read somewere that the only way to do that is to delete the
volume from TCDB and re-define it. Is that correct?
Regards,
Natasa

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Re: IBM announcements

[Porowski, Ken]

Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

-Original Message-
Richards.Bob

Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

Bob Richards
Technologist
Enterprise Technology Infrastructure
SunTrust Banks, Inc.
(404) 575-2798 
  
  
  
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Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration

[Tuco Bonno]

success!!  thank you!

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28-Jun-05 09:02:44 >>>
Instead of http:// use news://



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Behalf Of Tuco Bonno
Sent: 28 June 2005 13:55
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration


would you care to elaborate a little bit on 204.153.244.171, please?
i plug that ip address in my browser and only get a message back
saying
page contains no data; i ran a nslookup on that ip address, which
returned a
name 'host171.octanews.net' ; when i use *that* in my browser, all i
get is a message back saying 'host171.octanews.net' could not be found
  
tia

   ==

/s/ tuco bonno

graduate, College of Conflict Management,
University of Southeast Asia.
"I partied on the Ho Chi Minh trail"

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28-Jun-05 03:51:13 >>>
Steve (C),

if you still need a newsserver, there are a number of totally free
newsservers around on the internet, no subscription needed, usually no
posting allowed, but you don't need this since you must post via
email.
If you need one, Google for "free newsservers", there are lists
maintained
by hobbiests (as there are hobbiests for anything you can think of on
the
internet).
At the moment I use 204.153.244.171 already for a year or so.

Kees.

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Candle & Isogon

[Howard Brazee]

What is IBM's strategy with these two companies?

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Re: IBM announcements

[Richards.Bob]

Ken,

I could not get that link to work either.

Bob 

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Sent:   Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:11 AM
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Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

-Original Message-
Richards.Bob

Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

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Re: WORM tape mount - type mismatch

[Russell Witt]

Natasa,

A WORM cartridge cannot be re-used (Write ONCE, Read Many). Once data has
been written on a WORM cartridge, you can only add more data to it (either a
MOD operation to the last file or adding secondary datasets behind it).
Putting a WORM cartridge in SCRATCH status means you have destroyed the old
one and have a new one that you want to relabel to have the same volser as
the original; which means it has been deleted and then a new one re-defined.
But it will be a completely new cartridge, you cannot re-initialize and you
cannot re-use a WORM cartridge once data has been written to it. Only add
additional data to it.

Russell Witt
CA-1 Level-2 Support Manager

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Natasa Savinc
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: WORM tape mount - type mismatch


Mike,
we had an idea to archive some data that way - one copy on one media (EMC
Centera), and another on WORM tape as some kind of backup to the first one.
HSM seemed like a logical choice, because it can fill a tape (but obviously
not WORM), and it has some kind of record keeping capability.

I have RMM related question about WORM - how can I return WORM tape to
scratch? I read somewere that the only way to do that is to delete the
volume from TCDB and re-define it. Is that correct?
Regards,
Natasa

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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[Jim Ladouceur]

If IBM really has changed the coexistence policy to "all supported
releases" then 1.4 will coexist with 1.8 since they've extended the EOS
date for 1.4 to 3/7 and 1.8 will be out 9/6. Can someone please point me
to the doc with the policy change?

Jim

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Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

...
It used to be n-3. When IBM changed z/OS to an annual release schedule, 
they also changed the coexistence policy to be "all supported releases".
...

Semantics.
1.4 through 1.7 is N-3 to N.
Do the math.  (8-{]}


-teD
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Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration

[Steve Comstock]

Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:

Steve (C),

if you still need a newsserver, there are a number of totally free
newsservers around on the internet, no subscription needed, usually no
posting allowed, but you don't need this since you must post via email.
If you need one, Google for "free newsservers", there are lists maintained
by hobbiests (as there are hobbiests for anything you can think of on the
internet).
At the moment I use 204.153.244.171 already for a year or so.

Kees.



Thanks, Kees. I'll check 'em out.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/28/2005 7:55:55 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

would  you care to elaborate a little bit on 204.153.244.171, please?
i plug that  ip address in my browser and only get a message back
saying
page  contains no data; i ran a nslookup on that ip address,  which



>>
I googled it and came back with 
_http://nntime.com/usenet/usenet-servers-1.htm_ 
(http://nntime.com/usenet/usenet-servers-1.htm)  which  looks like a good 
link(and what you need). 

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Re: Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration

[Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM]

It is the address of the newsserver, that you specify in your newsreader's
account info.

E.g. in Outlook Express, you define a News account, on the "Server" tab you
specify this address after: "Server name:", like you would specify someting
like "news.myprovider.com" when using your own provider's newsserver.

Kees.

"Tuco Bonno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> would you care to elaborate a little bit on 204.153.244.171, please?
> i plug that ip address in my browser and only get a message back
> saying
> page contains no data; i ran a nslookup on that ip address, which
> returned a
> name 'host171.octanews.net' ; when i use *that* in my browser, all i
> get is a message back saying 'host171.octanews.net' could not be found
> ...  
> tia
> 
>==
> 
> /s/ tuco bonno
> 
> graduate, College of Conflict Management,
> University of Southeast Asia.
> "I partied on the Ho Chi Minh trail"
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28-Jun-05 03:51:13 >>>
> Steve (C),
> 
> if you still need a newsserver, there are a number of totally free
> newsservers around on the internet, no subscription needed, usually no
> posting allowed, but you don't need this since you must post via
> email.
> If you need one, Google for "free newsservers", there are lists
> maintained
> by hobbiests (as there are hobbiests for anything you can think of on
> the
> internet).
> At the moment I use 204.153.244.171 already for a year or so.
> 
> Kees.
> 
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Re: IBM announcements

[Porowski, Ken]

www.ibm.com > News & Newsletters (bottom right) > Announcement letters (under 
related links)

Everything I see resolves to a www-306.ibm.com address


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Ken,

I could not get that link to work either.

Bob 

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Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

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Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

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Re: Candle & Isogon

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/28/2005 8:19:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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What is  IBM's strategy with these two companies?



>>
They are now IBM properties. The speculation is there will be
a dongled version of a standalone monitor to take care of the
session managers..it will be extortionately priced and require
an ETR.

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Re: IBM announcements

[Steve Comstock]

Richards.Bob wrote:

Ken,

I could not get that link to work either.

Bob 


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Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

-Original Message-
Richards.Bob

Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I get 
"Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.





Hmm. try this; watch for wrap, of course.

Kind regards,

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Re: WORM tape mount - type mismatch

[Natasa Savinc]

Russell,
I know that WORM cartridge cannot be re-used once user data is written on
it. But I have a cartridge that was entered in library as PRIVATE (RMM
status USER), and has never been used. So instead of doing eject/enter
again, or delete/define via IDCAMS, I was wondering if there is a way to
release it to scratch, because in this state it cannot satisfy scratch
request.
Regards,
Natasa

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Re: Adabas

[Patrick . Falcone]

We're currently running Adabas V5R2.4 on z/OS 1.4 in 31, since June 2003, 
with no problems.





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we have a customer who will migrate from OS/390 2.9. do z/OS 1.4(or 6)
They run Adabas. Is anybody aware of any specific problems regarding
Adabas in zOS ?
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Re: IBM announcements

[Richards.Bob]

That way worked, but was a different format than I was used to, Thanks.

Bob 

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www.ibm.com > News & Newsletters (bottom right) > Announcement letters (under 
related links)

Everything I see resolves to a www-306.ibm.com address


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Ken,

I could not get that link to work either.

Bob 

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Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

-Original Message-
Richards.Bob

Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

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Re: Candle & Isogon

[Richards.Bob]

Filling voids and reducing their own development costs.

Both acquisitions make sense, at least to me. Omegamon is a market leader and 
so is SoftAudit. It has helped bolster the Tivoli product suites in both 
Performance Management and Asset Management.

Is there something else you are looking for? Some sinister motive perhaps?

As to the Isogon acquisition, I just hope the price comes down to earth.

Bob 

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Re: IBM announcements

[Richards.Bob]

Steve, 

I got *that far* before. It is when I click on an announcement on that page 
that the problem occurs.

Bob 

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> 
> The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
> get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.
>

Hmm. try this; watch for wrap, of course.

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Re: IBM announcements

[Steve Comstock]

Richards.Bob wrote:
Steve, 


I got *that far* before. It is when I click on an announcement on that page 
that the problem occurs.

Bob 



Huh. Strange, 'cause it works for me.

Oh well, I see you got your problem solved.

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Re: IDENTIFY restriction [was: RE: ISKE/IVSK]

[Farley, Peter x23353]

Well, he's not the only graybeard who didn't get that memo.  I missed it
too.  I just looked it up, and Ed is correct -- IDENTIFY *must* specify an
address within an already-loaded/fetched/etc. program.

Now why'd they go and do that?  That means I can't use that old CompSci
trick of compile-to-memory-and-attach-task any more.  Shucks.  I remember
when I did that with Fortran arrays in college.

(I know, I know, it's all about security and integrity.  No comments in that
area, please.)

Not the same thing, of course, but what does that restriction do for JIT
languages?  ISTM that the IDENTIFY service would be useful there, except
that a JIT language compiles to dynamically-obtained memory, not to a load
module.

Peter

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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/26/2005
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>>Since when??
>
>My recollection is OS/360 Release 18. Certainly by R20.
>
>>Huh?? Which form of IDENTIFY do you believe can be used to create a 
>>major CDE from GETMAINed virtual storage?
>
>The one documented in the old Linkage Editor and Loader PLM.

That capability was removed in MVS. Didn't you get the memo?

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Re: WORM tape mount - type mismatch

[R.S.]

Natasa Savinc wrote:


Russell,
I know that WORM cartridge cannot be re-used once user data is written on
it. But I have a cartridge that was entered in library as PRIVATE (RMM
status USER), and has never been used. So instead of doing eject/enter
again, or delete/define via IDCAMS, I was wondering if there is a way to
release it to scratch, because in this state it cannot satisfy scratch
request.


I would eject it (using RMM command) and insert again.

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Re: IBM announcements

[Eric Chevalier]

On 28 Jun 2005 06:01:45 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) wrote:

>Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

How about this link:

http://www.ibm.com/news/usalet/

It seems to get redirected to:


http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/apilite?infotype=an&infosubt=ca&lastdays=7&ctvwcode=us&hitlimit=200&appname=USN

but that second link does work for me.

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Re: IGVFSMAN 0C4 (was IPCS missing module)

[Mark]

Ed Finnell wrote:



In a message dated 6/28/2005 6:56:15 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


That  might indicate a mismatch between your exit definitions and your
MIGLIB.  Are you using the new exit definitions from z/OS or did you
carry the old  definitions forward from OS/390?



 


As Brian and Jim reaffirmed, IPCSPARM is probably first place to
look. As I thought about this(don't have a 1.6 system). Could
be procedural in moving old panels and datasets to new system
or having old panels and libraries ahead of 1.6 libraries in
LOGON proc. Didn't say how it was built, in prior releases there's
a sample CLIST ISPPDF that does the basic allocations and fires
up a support menu. Might do a comparison with that and LOGON proc
to spot obvious differences



It seems that the systems man made some changes to the zOS to fix this 
problem before he left.  He did not say what he did to fix it, and it 
will be a couple of weeks before I can find out what he did. 

This problem has gone away.  Now I have a new problem.  The VSM 
component abends with an 0C4 rc4.


System ABEND 0C4, reason code 
0004   
PSW 078D1000 917BBEE4, module IGVSFMAN, CSECT*UNKNOWN, offset 
EE54   
Instruction area 40005050 9000BF0F 4008A784, ILC 2, INTC 0004, TEA 
117B9004  
GPR   0R 117CBBC0   1R 117CB128   2R 00FD6BB8   3R 
917BA8B6  
GPR   4R 117B9268   5R 00097000   6R 0420   7R 
1000  
GPR   8R 0005B000   9R 117B9298  10R 0005B000  11R 
117AFD2B  
GPR  12R 117BC598  13R 116021F8  14R 117B92E8  15R 917BBA3E   

I get about 2+ pages of the VSM report before this abend occurs.  The 
bad news is that for this problem, I'm looking for a memory leak.  So 
the VSM reports would be my initial focus.


I have checked the allocated libraries and see only the Z6RESx packs 
used for the SBLS libraries.   There are no OS390 packs showing on any 
files allocated to my TSO session.  So I'm comfortable that it seems 
that I'm using the new zOS definitions rather than the older OS390 version.


The IPCSPARM dataset was not specifically allocated.  When I manually 
allocated the file and went into IPCS, it still abended.


FWIW, I am looking at an SVC dump created on z/OS 1.4.  My system is 
z/OS 1.6.


I do not have access to IBM to find out if there are any APARS for this 
problem.  I'll have to wait until my system guy gets back in about 2 weeks.


In the mean time, I'll continue to look over the procs, and libraries.  
My first stop today will be the MIGLIB as mentioned earlier.


I'll also be checking with a vendor over the XPEDITOR product to see if 
that might be interfering with my IPCS system.



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Re: Vtoc free information

[Knutson, Sam]

I think the supposition is that for most people it is easier to deal with
tool output particularly from a supported stable source than to RYO.  Some
would say it is sad but for most the programming has long been removed from
"Systems Programmer".

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Re: IGVFSMAN 0C4 (was IPCS missing module)

[Tim Hare]

>It seems that the systems man made some changes to the zOS to fix this 
>problem before he left.  He did not say what he did to fix it, and it 
>will be a couple of weeks before I can find out what he did.

You not only have a software problem (possibly) you have a management 
problem. If you have a systems programmer who can make changes and leave 
without leaving notes on those changes (minimal change management), and 
you have no backup systems programmer (employed OR "rented") to handle 
technical issues while the primary guy goes on vacation, then in my 
perhaps-not-so-humble opinion,  management has put your system at risk. 
What happens if the OS decides to lay down and die in the middle of your 
business cycle (whatever it is), and no one is there with the skills 
and/or tools to fix it?

Obviously, you can't employ two "guru-level" systems programmers just for 
z/OS, and another pair for CICS, and another pair for DB2 unless you have 
the kind of business that requires it and the kind of revenue that can pay 
for it - but you CAN do some cross-training and some policy-and-procedure 
writing to make the situation less risky.

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Re: HFS dismount

[Mark Zelden]

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:10:45 -0500, Matthew Stitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>We recently converted to SYSPLEX OMVS configuration.  We have a situation
>where the HFS's for another system are being dismounted when we shut one
>system down.  The command sequence is
>1.  F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKINIT
>2.  F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKS
>
>The HFS's being unmounted are marked as NOAUTOMOVE.
>
>This is OS/390 2.10 (on its way to Z/OS 1.4).
>
>

Not from this alone I didn't.  But your next post said this:

>Last night we IPL'd the programming LPAR.  The other two Lpars lost their
>HFS's when the BPXSTOP STC was running.
===

I'm not positive this is your problem since you don't have automove
filesystems, but don't run BPXSTOP in a shared HFS environment.

A command became available at a certain PTF level of OS/390 2.10 (I think
it went back OS/390 2.7) to use instead:  F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FILESYS.
It will sync data to disk and move automove file systems.

Review the z/OS 1.4 UNIX planning manual under "shared HFS" and also
for the procedures for shutting down OMVS prior to IPL (although
you can't use F OMVS,SHUTDOWN on OS/390 2.10).

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Re: IBM announcements

[Richards.Bob]

And it does for me too. I guess I'll retire the old way as BAD. 

Bob 

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On 28 Jun 2005 06:01:45 -0700,
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>Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

How about this link:

http://www.ibm.com/news/usalet/

It seems to get redirected to:


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Re: Candle & Isogon

[Howard Brazee]

On 28-Jun-2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) wrote:

> Is there something else you are looking for? Some sinister motive perhaps?
>
> As to the Isogon acquisition, I just hope the price comes down to earth.

Nothing sinister.   We're pretty much a CA shop but I'm interested in seeing
what will happen.

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Re: Vtoc free information

[R.S.]

Knutson, Sam wrote:


I think the supposition is that for most people it is easier to deal with
tool output particularly from a supported stable source than to RYO.  Some
would say it is sad but for most the programming has long been removed from
"Systems Programmer".


IMHO it's good. At least for the companies. System programmers should do 
system programming, working in companies which produces systems.

Companies which *buys* systems should have system exploitation staff.
Last but not least: it is much less probable to blow up the system when 
using tools.


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Re: Max. size of pageds?

[Staller, Allan]

>From OW54255 I found that the maximum size is now 4GB, if SADUMP must be
able to process it.
>From z/OS V1R3.0 DFSMS Access Method Services for Catalogs: 17.1.1 I read
that the maximum size is 16M slots, so 64 GB.


I remember some APARS (sorry don't have the numbers) dealing with LARGE
page ds's. Check IBM link for more info...

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Re: HFS dismount

[Aaron Walker]

If your mounts are marked NOAUTOMOVE, then they will be unmounted when
their owning system goes away.  You basically want your system-specific
datasets (/etc/, /var/, /dev/, stuff like that) to be NOAUTOMOVE, as it's
(generally) ok for them to be unmounted.  Items like your version root,
sysplex root, /opt/ directories, other things that are 'shared' across
LPARs you would want to have defined as AUTOMOVE.  Read the Shared HFS in a
Sysplex chapter in the OS390 Unix Planning Guide.  Also make sure you have
the distributed BRLM going, too.

http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/apps/brlm.html

Forgive any wrap.

Aaron

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Re: Adabas

[Natarajan Mohan]

We migrated to z/OS 1.3 couple of years back with ADABAS 713. We
migrated to NATURAL 315 before we upgraded the OS just to be on the
safer side of support. We again migrated from z/OS 1.3 to 1.4 last
november and also an upgrade to z/ARCH processor. Did not face any
problems due to the migration of OS or hardware. Just watch for LE and
default for ALL31 parameter if you have 3GL programs(24bit) in
combination with NATURAL.

Thanks
Nat

>>> Marian Gasparovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/28/05 12:21 AM >>>
Hi all,
we have a customer who will migrate from OS/390 2.9. do z/OS 1.4(or 6)
They run Adabas. Is anybody aware of any specific problems regarding
Adabas in zOS ?
Thank you

Marian Gasparovic

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Re: Max. size of pageds?

[Mark Thomen]

"Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hello,
>
> While moving to 3390-9 devices, I want to enlarge our pageds, but am not
> sure of the limits.
>
> From OW54255 I found that the maximum size is now 4GB, if SADUMP must be
> able to process it.
> From z/OS V1R3.0 DFSMS Access Method Services for Catalogs: 17.1.1 I read
> that the maximum size is 16M slots, so 64 GB.

The current limit is 4GB.

Thanks,
Mark Thomen
Catalog/IDCAMS/VSAM Development

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Re: Max. size of pageds?

[Martin Packer]

So we'll most likely be asking customers to have MORE page packs (and for
ASM to have to manage them) for a while. This assertion based on my view
(driven by a little experience) that it's a rather good idea to be able to
sustain dumping those large address spaces we're getting used to having.

Martin

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Re: IGVFSMAN 0C4 (was IPCS missing module)

[Jim Mulder]

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 06/28/2005 
10:18:52 AM:

> Ed Finnell wrote:
> 
> > 
> >In a message dated 6/28/2005 6:56:15 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >That  might indicate a mismatch between your exit definitions and your
> >MIGLIB.  Are you using the new exit definitions from z/OS or did you
> >carry the old  definitions forward from OS/390?
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >As Brian and Jim reaffirmed, IPCSPARM is probably first place to
> >look. As I thought about this(don't have a 1.6 system). Could
> >be procedural in moving old panels and datasets to new system
> >or having old panels and libraries ahead of 1.6 libraries in
> >LOGON proc. Didn't say how it was built, in prior releases there's
> >a sample CLIST ISPPDF that does the basic allocations and fires
> >up a support menu. Might do a comparison with that and LOGON proc
> >to spot obvious differences
> >
> 
> It seems that the systems man made some changes to the zOS to fix this 
> problem before he left.  He did not say what he did to fix it, and it 
> will be a couple of weeks before I can find out what he did. 
> 
> This problem has gone away.  Now I have a new problem.  The VSM 
> component abends with an 0C4 rc4.
> 
> System ABEND 0C4, reason code 
> 0004 
>  PSW 078D1000 917BBEE4, module IGVSFMAN, CSECT*UNKNOWN, offset 
> EE54 
>  Instruction area 40005050 9000BF0F 4008A784, ILC 2, INTC 0004, TEA 
> 117B9004 
>  GPR   0R 117CBBC0   1R 117CB128   2R 00FD6BB8   3R 
> 917BA8B6 
>  GPR   4R 117B9268   5R 00097000   6R 0420   7R 
> 1000 
>  GPR   8R 0005B000   9R 117B9298  10R 0005B000  11R 
> 117AFD2B 
>  GPR  12R 117BC598  13R 116021F8  14R 117B92E8  15R 917BBA3E 
> 
> I get about 2+ pages of the VSM report before this abend occurs.  The 
> bad news is that for this problem, I'm looking for a memory leak.  So 
> the VSM reports would be my initial focus.
> 
> I have checked the allocated libraries and see only the Z6RESx packs 
> used for the SBLS libraries.   There are no OS390 packs showing on any 
> files allocated to my TSO session.  So I'm comfortable that it seems 
> that I'm using the new zOS definitions rather than the older OS390 
version.
> 
> The IPCSPARM dataset was not specifically allocated.  When I manually 
> allocated the file and went into IPCS, it still abended.
> 
> FWIW, I am looking at an SVC dump created on z/OS 1.4.  My system is 
> z/OS 1.6.
> 
> I do not have access to IBM to find out if there are any APARS for this 
> problem.  I'll have to wait until my system guy gets back in about 2 
weeks.
> 
> In the mean time, I'll continue to look over the procs, and libraries. 
> My first stop today will be the MIGLIB as mentioned earlier.
> 
> I'll also be checking with a vendor over the XPEDITOR product to see if 
> that might be interfering with my IPCS system.
> 
> 

  OA10104 (PTF UA16888) should fix the 0C4 abend in the z/OS 1.6
VERBX VSMDATA.

  However, if you are processing a z/OS 1.4 dump on a z/OS 1.6 system.
you should be STEPLIBing or TSOLIBing to a z/OS 1.4 SYS1.MIGLIB,
as well as the z/OS 1.4 PARMLIB for IPCAPARM, etc. 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Upgrade to z900 104

[Craig Kittendorf]

We may be about to upgrade from a 9672-R76 to a z900-104.  We are running
z/OS v1.4 with CICS/TS v23, IMS v8, DB2 v7 and various CA, BMC, Compuware,
TMON, and MacKinney products.

What are the gotchas, watchouts, etc. in this upgrade?  64 bit issues?

Thanks,
Craig

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IBM Fires in US/Europe;Hires in India (from CNN/Money)

[Ed Finnell]

_http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/24/news/fortune500/ibm_india/_ 
(http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/24/news/fortune500/ibm_india/) 

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Re: Upgrade to z900 104

[R.S.]

Craig Kittendorf wrote:


We may be about to upgrade from a 9672-R76 to a z900-104.  We are running
z/OS v1.4 with CICS/TS v23, IMS v8, DB2 v7 and various CA, BMC, Compuware,
TMON, and MacKinney products.

What are the gotchas, watchouts, etc. in this upgrade?  64 bit issues?


Yes, you'll move from 31-bit to 64-bit. You'll loose your expanded 
memory. These are the things to watch out.


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Our Replacements?

[Gary Green]

This crossed my desk.  In case anyone is interested, it's about educating
our replacements...

http://www.cio.com.au/index.php/id;1954503653;fp;4;fpid;21

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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[Ted MacNEIL]

...
If IBM really has changed the coexistence policy to "all supported
releases" then 1.4 will coexist with 1.8 since they've extended the EOS
date for 1.4 to 3/7 and 1.8 will be out 9/6.
...

I never saw that doc either.
And, I follow this quite closely since I am working for a back-levelled shop
and am trying to bring us up to 1.6, 
DB2 V8, IMS V9, CICS V3, etc.

In a parallel SYSPLEX.

-teD
(The secret to success is sincerity.
If you can fake that,
you've got it made!)

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Re: Our Replacements?

[Bill Fairchild]

 
In a message dated 6/28/2005 10:49:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This  crossed my desk.  In case anyone is interested, it's about  educating
our  replacements...

http://www.cio.com.au/index.php/id;1954503653;fp;4;fpid;21



Educating my replacement(s) sounds good as a consulting gig for myself  AFTER 
I retire.
 
Bill Fairchild

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Re: HFS dismount

[Matthew Stitt]

Thanks, Aaron, this area has already been covered.  It's not just the
NOAUTOMOVE stuff, it's also the AUTOMOVE stuff.

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Re: IDENTIFY limitations and their circumvention (was ISKE/IVSK)

[john gilmore]

There is an old technology, one that is ordinarily used statically, that can 
also be used somewhat dynamically to circumvent the security-orient[at]ed 
restrictions that have been imposed upon the

use of IDENTIFY proper.

It employs a preassembled n-element transfer vector, each element of which 
is an eight-byte unsigned integer in the sequence


0, 1, 2, . . . , n - 1,

i.e., a zero-origin array of n elements having its subscripts as the values 
of these elements, that is bound as a single-RSECT program object, call it 
RANKS000, and brought into storage in the usual way.


A management program elsewhere keeps track of the number

0 <= u <= n

of elements of this array that are in use, have been assigned as the rank of 
a virtual-storage address for which pseudo-VERIFY facilities are required.


A necessarily unique name for such an address, call it GUBBINS0, is chosen; 
and a traditional IDENTIFY is used to create a CDE for GUBBINS within the 
RANKS000 program object at the address


addr(RANKS000) + 8u,

after which u is incremented by 1.  A STORAGE macro followed by a directed 
LOAD for GUBBINS0 then yields the load address of GUBBINS0, which the 
management program stores as the corresponding element of ANOTHER array, 
this one a dynamic one that can be stored into.  The rank found at the 
address for which IDENTIFY has created a CDE for GUBBINS0 can then be used 
to address this second address array to obtain the actual virtual-storage 
location of GUBBINS0.


This management program uses a dedicated register, DXD, CXD, etc., i.e., the 
HLASM analogues of PL/I controlled storage, to manage the dynamic storage it 
uses efficiently.


Described in extenso this scheme sounds complicated.  In fact it is nothing 
but a very simple indirect-addressing one.


Its chief limitation is that n is fixed when RANKS000 is assembled.  Its 
chief merit is that busybodies will find it all but impossible to interdict 
its use or that of schemes like it. (I have no objection, I indeed welcome, 
legitimate security precautions; but this one was larger than life, 
interdicted too much; and its circumvention is entirely appropriate.)


John Gilmore
Ashland, MA 01721
USA

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Re: Communication Controller for Linux

[John Eells]

Tonni J Ottosen wrote:


Hi  List -

Has anybody  gained experience in setting up/using CCL?
Any tips/hints  are welcome.



You might find this helpful:

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246298.html?Open



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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[John Eells]

Jim Ladouceur wrote:


If IBM really has changed the coexistence policy to "all supported
releases" then 1.4 will coexist with 1.8 since they've extended the EOS
date for 1.4 to 3/7 and 1.8 will be out 9/6. Can someone please point me
to the doc with the policy change?



As we announced, "Starting with z/OS V1.6, the 
Coexistence-Migration-Fallback policy aligns with the Service 
policy."


z/OS R4, however, will coexist with z/OS R7, not with z/OS R8. 
Each z/OS general availability announcement letter has a summary 
of the supported coexistence combinations in it.  Here is the 
coexistence table from the z/OS R6 GA announcement (which I hope 
will stay readable after posting):


Release   Coexistence-supported with release in column 1

z/OS V1.3 or  OS/390(R) V2.9 (1), (z/OS V1.1 & OS/390 V2.10) (2,3),
z/OS.e V1.3   z/OS V1.2 (4), z/OS V1.3, z/OS.e V1.3

z/OS V1.4 or  (z/OS V1.1 & OS/390 V2.10) (2,3), z/OS V1.2 (4),
z/OS.e V1.4   z/OS V1.3, z/OS V1.4, z/OS.e V1.3, z/OS.e V1.4

z/OS V1.5 or  z/OS.e V1.3, z/OS.e V1.4, z/OS.e V1.5,
z/OS.e V1.5   z/OS V1.2 (4), z/OS V1.3, z/OS V1.4, z/OS V1.5

z/OS V1.6 z/OS.e V1.3, z/OS.e V1.4, z/OS.e V1.5,
or z/OS.e V1.6,
z/OS.e V1.6   z/OS V1.3, z/OS V1.4, z/OS V1.5, z/OS V1.6

z/OS V1.7 (5) z/OS.e V1.4, z/OS.e V1.5, z/OS.e V1.6, z/OS.e
or V1.7,
z/OS.e V1.7   z/OS V1.4, z/OS V1.5, z/OS V1.6, z/OS V1.7

z/OS V1.8 (5) z/OS.e V1.5, z/OS.e V1.6, z/OS.e V1.7, z/OS.e
or V1.8,
z/OS.e V1.8   z/OS V1.5, z/OS V1.6, z/OS V1.7, z/OS V1.8

z/OS V1.9 (5) z/OS.e V1.7, z/OS.e V1.8, z/OS.e V1.9
or
z/OS.e V1.9   z/OS V1.7, z/OS V1.8, z/OS V1.9

The quote and table are from IBM z/OS V1.6: Integrating new 
applications and Preview: z/OS V1.7, IBM United States Software 
Announcement 204-180, dated August 10, 2004.


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Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007

[Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)]

The "supported" part of "all supported releases" is also important.  As
an example, when z/OS 1.6 came out, it co-existed with z/OS 1.3.  But
z/OS 1.3 went off support March 2005, so z/OS 1.3 can no longer co-exist
with z/OS 1.6.

Don Imbriale


>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
>Of John Eells
>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:49 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Running z/OS 1.4 on a G5/G6 after 31 March 2007
>
>Jim Ladouceur wrote:
>
>> If IBM really has changed the coexistence policy to "all supported
>> releases" then 1.4 will coexist with 1.8 since they've extended the
EOS
>> date for 1.4 to 3/7 and 1.8 will be out 9/6. Can someone please point
me
>> to the doc with the policy change?
>>
>
>As we announced, "Starting with z/OS V1.6, the
>Coexistence-Migration-Fallback policy aligns with the Service
>policy."
>
>z/OS R4, however, will coexist with z/OS R7, not with z/OS R8.
>Each z/OS general availability announcement letter has a summary
>of the supported coexistence combinations in it.  Here is the
>coexistence table from the z/OS R6 GA announcement (which I hope
>will stay readable after posting):
>
>Release   Coexistence-supported with release in column 1
>
>z/OS V1.3 or  OS/390(R) V2.9 (1), (z/OS V1.1 & OS/390 V2.10) (2,3),
>z/OS.e V1.3   z/OS V1.2 (4), z/OS V1.3, z/OS.e V1.3
>
>z/OS V1.4 or  (z/OS V1.1 & OS/390 V2.10) (2,3), z/OS V1.2 (4),
>z/OS.e V1.4   z/OS V1.3, z/OS V1.4, z/OS.e V1.3, z/OS.e V1.4
>
>z/OS V1.5 or  z/OS.e V1.3, z/OS.e V1.4, z/OS.e V1.5,
>z/OS.e V1.5   z/OS V1.2 (4), z/OS V1.3, z/OS V1.4, z/OS V1.5
>
>z/OS V1.6 z/OS.e V1.3, z/OS.e V1.4, z/OS.e V1.5,
>or z/OS.e V1.6,
>z/OS.e V1.6   z/OS V1.3, z/OS V1.4, z/OS V1.5, z/OS V1.6
>
>z/OS V1.7 (5) z/OS.e V1.4, z/OS.e V1.5, z/OS.e V1.6, z/OS.e
>or V1.7,
>z/OS.e V1.7   z/OS V1.4, z/OS V1.5, z/OS V1.6, z/OS V1.7
>
>z/OS V1.8 (5) z/OS.e V1.5, z/OS.e V1.6, z/OS.e V1.7, z/OS.e
>or V1.8,
>z/OS.e V1.8   z/OS V1.5, z/OS V1.6, z/OS V1.7, z/OS V1.8
>
>z/OS V1.9 (5) z/OS.e V1.7, z/OS.e V1.8, z/OS.e V1.9
>or
>z/OS.e V1.9   z/OS V1.7, z/OS V1.8, z/OS V1.9
>
>The quote and table are from IBM z/OS V1.6: Integrating new
>applications and Preview: z/OS V1.7, IBM United States Software
>Announcement 204-180, dated August 10, 2004.
>
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>z/OS Technical Marketing
>IBM Poughkeepsie
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SORT and SUM function

[Mautalen Juan Guillermo]

Hi,

It is probably something very obvious, but i am having a hard time
figuring out what is wrong...I am trying to use the SUM function
provided by DFSORT.
My control statements are, as the documentation indicates, something
like:

SORT FIELDS=(20,5,CH,A)
SUM FIELDS=(30,4,BI)

When i run the DFSORT (as a batch job), it ends with RC=0. However, the
SUM is not performed (but the records are sorted, tough).
Despite many records having identical value in position 20-24, their
values in field 30-33 are not added. It seems that the SUM statement is
ignored.

Any ideas of what could be happening?


Thanks in advance,

JUAN MAUTALEN

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Re: OA11161

[Joe D'Alessandro]

Thank you for the clarification.

regards, JVD

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Re: SORT and SUM function

[Frank Yaeger]

Mautalen Juan Guillermo wrote:

>It is probably something very obvious, but i am having a hard time
>figuring out what is wrong...I am trying to use the SUM function
>provided by DFSORT.
>My control statements are, as the documentation indicates, something
>like:
>
>SORT FIELDS=(20,5,CH,A)
>SUM FIELDS=(30,4,BI)
>
>When i run the DFSORT (as a batch job), it ends with RC=0. However, the
>SUM is not performed (but the records are sorted, tough).
>Despite many records having identical value in position 20-24, their
>values in field 30-33 are not added. It seems that the SUM statement is
>ignored.
>
>Any ideas of what could be happening?

Well, it's hard to say without seeing your input and output, but one guess
would be that all of
your sum fields overflowed.  Note that when sum fields overflow, the pair
of records involved
in the overflow is left unchanged and neither record is deleted. Look for
message ICE152I
which indicates overflow occurred.

If your fields did overflow and  you got RC=0, then you have OVLFO=RC0 in
effect (this is
DFSORT's shipped default).  If you don't want RC=0 when fields overflow,
use
OPTION OVFLO=RC4 or OVFLO=RC16 as appropriate.

If that's not it, then I'd need to see an example of your input SORT fields
and SUM fields and
what you got for output.  You can use 30,4,HEX to display the SUM fields in
hex.  You can
send me the info offline ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you like.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
 => DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/

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Oxygenated morons

[John Mattson]

I thought an oxymoron was an idiot who worked for Armand Hammer. 
(The preceeding was a jest, if you don't get it, look up Armand Hammer in 
Google.  If you don't think its funny you probably don't recognise the pun 
as the highest form of humor). 

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Re: IDENTIFY limitations and their circumvention (was ISKE/IVSK)

[Charles Mills]

John implicitly raises a question I was going to ask. What the heck is
the security exposure in letting a program define a new entry point in
GETMAIN storage (but not in defining a new entry point in CSECT
storage)?

Especially when it is as easy as John describes to circumvent (or even
easier to circumvent - albeit less flexibly - if one had a large,
meaningless, empty load module that one loaded as a "GETMAIN loaded from
disk").

Charles



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chief merit is that busybodies will find it all but impossible to
interdict 
its use or that of schemes like it. (I have no objection, I indeed
welcome, 
legitimate security precautions; but this one was larger than life, 
interdicted too much; and its circumvention is entirely appropriate.)

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Re: IDENTIFY restriction [was: RE: ISKE/IVSK]

[Paul Gilmartin]

In a recent note, Farley, Peter x23353 said:

> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:10:25 -0400
> 
> Well, he's not the only graybeard who didn't get that memo.  I missed it
> too.  I just looked it up, and Ed is correct -- IDENTIFY *must* specify an
> address within an already-loaded/fetched/etc. program.
> 
I thought there was an out: something like if you set the sign
bit you can use any address.  But you must be APF authorized to
do it.

> Now why'd they go and do that?  That means I can't use that old CompSci
> trick of compile-to-memory-and-attach-task any more.  Shucks.  I remember
> when I did that with Fortran arrays in college.
> 
I either used or imagined ATTACHing a little glue module:

 L R15,0(,R1)
 LAR1,4(,R1)
 BRR15

... and passing the entry point address as an extra first parameter.

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Re: IDENTIFY restriction [was: RE: ISKE/IVSK]

[Jim Mulder]

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 06/28/2005 
02:53:54 PM:

> In a recent note, Farley, Peter x23353 said:
> 
> > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:10:25 -0400
> > 
> > Well, he's not the only graybeard who didn't get that memo.  I missed 
it
> > too.  I just looked it up, and Ed is correct -- IDENTIFY *must* 
specify an
> > address within an already-loaded/fetched/etc. program.
> > 
> I thought there was an out: something like if you set the sign
> bit you can use any address.  But you must be APF authorized to
> do it.
> 
> > Now why'd they go and do that?  That means I can't use that old 
CompSci
> > trick of compile-to-memory-and-attach-task any more.  Shucks.  I 
remember
> > when I did that with Fortran arrays in college.
> > 
> I either used or imagined ATTACHing a little glue module:
> 
>  L R15,0(,R1)
>  LAR1,4(,R1)
>  BRR15
> 
> ... and passing the entry point address as an extra first parameter.
> 
> -- gil
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 If this is just a matter of curiosity, surely 
you old time hackers can do more than speculate.  For example,
look in the MVS Diagnosis Reference to find the module name called 
by the IDENTIFY SVC.  Find some microfiche older than SP4.3.0., and
read the module prolog.

  As always, I must caution you as to the risks of actually using
undocumented interfaces. 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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AS/400 iSeries listserv

[Lester, Bob]

Hi All,

  Anyone know of a list server that offers AS/400, iSeries, I5 topics?

 just an old mainframer trying to stay employed!

Thanks!
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Re: AS/400 iSeries listserv

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> 
> Hi All,
> 
>   Anyone know of a list server that offers AS/400, 
> iSeries, I5 topics?
> 
>  just an old mainframer trying to stay employed!
> 
> Thanks!
> <*BobL*>

There is a really excellent one that you get at via

http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l

We were considering a conversion to either (1) Windows; (2) iSeries; or
(3) Sun. I found that group. They are very enthusiastic, helpful, and
professional. The only thing wrong with them is that they don't get
bogged down in nostalgia like we sometimes do.

We didn't go forward due to some auditing "problems" that the company is
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Re: AS/400 iSeries listserv

[Lester, Bob]

Hi John,

 Thanks - just what I was looking for.

Cheers!
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|   > 
|   >  just an old mainframer trying to stay employed!
|   > 
|   > Thanks!
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|   bogged down in nostalgia like we sometimes do.
|   
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|   the company is
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DYNAMIC SVC QUESTION

[Jay Paulson]

I am looking for a way to display the SVC's that are running on our
systems (mainly the dynamically installed ones).
We have a couple of products that do this (i.e. Resolve and CA-EXAMINE).
However, these products don't run on all of our systems.
I mainly want to just know the SVC #'s that are in use so that we don't
accidentally give them out to other users via IEASVCxx.

I have been wandering around the manuals looking for a display command
but can't seem to find one.
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Re: DYNAMIC SVC QUESTION

[Mendelson, Eric]

Try showmvs from CBT or MXI

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I am looking for a way to display the SVC's that are running on our
systems (mainly the dynamically installed ones).
We have a couple of products that do this (i.e. Resolve and CA-EXAMINE).
However, these products don't run on all of our systems.
I mainly want to just know the SVC #'s that are in use so that we don't
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I have been wandering around the manuals looking for a display command
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Re: DYNAMIC SVC QUESTION

[Jimmy Pace]

TASID has a SVC display.  - Miscellaneous displays - SVC list

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We have a couple of products that do this (i.e. Resolve and CA-EXAMINE).
However, these products don't run on all of our systems.
I mainly want to just know the SVC #'s that are in use so that we don't
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I have been wandering around the manuals looking for a display command
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Re: DYNAMIC SVC QUESTION

[Jay Paulson]

Thanks. This is just what I needed.
I appreciate the help.

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TASID has a SVC display.  - Miscellaneous displays - SVC list

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I am looking for a way to display the SVC's that are running on our
systems (mainly the dynamically installed ones). We have a couple of
products that do this (i.e. Resolve and CA-EXAMINE). However, these
products don't run on all of our systems. I mainly want to just know the
SVC #'s that are in use so that we don't accidentally give them out to
other users via IEASVCxx.

I have been wandering around the manuals looking for a display command
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Re: DYNAMIC SVC QUESTION

[Hank Medler]

If you don't have SHOWMVS, MXI, or TASID installed on your system, try
entering TSO ISPVCALL twice from within ISPF. It should display the active
SVCs on your system. Hope this helps...

Thanks,
Hank Medler

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Subject: DYNAMIC SVC QUESTION

I am looking for a way to display the SVC's that are running on our
systems (mainly the dynamically installed ones).
We have a couple of products that do this (i.e. Resolve and CA-EXAMINE).
However, these products don't run on all of our systems.
I mainly want to just know the SVC #'s that are in use so that we don't
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I have been wandering around the manuals looking for a display command
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Re: SORT and SUM function

[Frank Yaeger]

Juan contacted me offline and we resolved this.  SUM FIELDS=(30,4,BI) was
being used with a 4-byte ZD field in 30-33 (C'0001') so all of the
X'F0F0F0F0' binary values did indeed overflow.  Changing the SUM statement
to SUM FIELDS=(30,4,ZD) gave Juan what he wanted.

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Re: DYNAMIC SVC QUESTION

[Jay Paulson]

Thanks for the help this shows a lot of information that I think I will
be able to use for another purpose.
However, it appears that it only shows SVC's that it can determine names
for.
A number of our dynamic SVC's do not show.

The TASID info seems to cover my needs.

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If you don't have SHOWMVS, MXI, or TASID installed on your system, try
entering TSO ISPVCALL twice from within ISPF. It should display the
active SVCs on your system. Hope this helps...

Thanks,
Hank Medler

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I am looking for a way to display the SVC's that are running on our
systems (mainly the dynamically installed ones). We have a couple of
products that do this (i.e. Resolve and CA-EXAMINE). However, these
products don't run on all of our systems. I mainly want to just know the
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IRRDPTAB ?

[Craig Kittendorf]

Hi,

What is IRRDPTAB and is it needed if we have Top Secret instead of RACF?

Thanks,
   Craig

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Re: IRRDPTAB ?

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> 
> Hi,
> 
> What is IRRDPTAB and is it needed if we have Top Secret 
> instead of RACF?
> 
> Thanks,
>Craig
> 

IRRDPTAB is only needed if you use RACF. It loads some information into
memory that the RACF command processor uses to parse administrator
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Crypto, RACF and SSL

[Ward, Mike S]

Hi all, I'm at the point where I can start using my Crypto cards(Thanks
to all who helped me out). I currently have my local certificate
authority cert under racf as well as any certs that I signed with it. If
I wanted to move the certs to ICSF do I have to regen them and the
certificates that were signed? Or can I just move them into icsf?

Thanks 
Mike!

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