Re: F against a REXX STC

2005-11-04 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS

Can I send MVS modify command against a REXX that is running as an STC?

I did something very similar with a Cobol program. I guess that you can do
the same in Rexx (set-up of the environment may be a little harder, though).

I've written an assembler program that set's up the plumbing for handling
the start, modify and stop MVS commands and then attaches a subtask that is
running the Cobol program.

Communication between the assembler and the Cobol program, in my case, is a
simple structure in the assembler programs' working storage, mapped in the
Cobol LINKAGE SECTION. When a modify command comes in, the assembler code
handles it, analyzes the meaning of it and puts the corresponding values in
the communication structure. It then POSTs an ECB on which the Cobol
program (through a call to an other little assembler sub-routine) is
waiting. Cobol program picks up the parameters from its linkage and
processes.

In the main assembler program I have also a STIMER that pops every-so-often
and writes out a WTO to say it is still alive. This prevents the process
from abending for inactivity time-out when it is running as a simple job
(handy during testing...)

Cheers,

Jantje.

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9037 limits

2005-11-04 Thread R.S.

AFAIK, 9037-2 has max. 24 ports, and 9037-1 has 16 ports.
So, how it is possible to have 32 members in sysplex ?

Q2: Does CF require connectivity to sysplex timer ?

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GRS ring vs star mode

2005-11-04 Thread R.S.
I created sandbox sysplex within one CPC (shared CPs for both MVS and CF 
LPARs, IC channels).
I observed significant performance improvement when changed GRS from 
ring to star mode. I didn't notice such improvement, when changed XCF 
transport from CTC (ESCON) to CF structures.
From the other hand I was told that there is not noticeable difference 
between ring mode and star mode for two-member sysplex.


Is the difference because of star mode advantage or just I have 
something something to tune when using ring mode ?

BTW: I don't want to use ring, it's just curiosity.


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Re: ZIP SOFTWARE for Mainframe

2005-11-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Do you want to be able to get the problem fixed, or do you just want to
be able to sue somebody?
...

I'm Canadian!
Litigation is not a national passtime as it is in some countries.

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Re: 9037 limits

2005-11-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So, how it is possible to have 32 members in sysplex ?
...
One is architecture; the other is implementation.


Q2: Does CF require connectivity to sysplex timer ?
...
No.
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Re: GRS ring vs star mode

2005-11-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Is the difference because of star mode advantage or just I have 
something something to tune when using ring mode ?
...

Ring is affected by the number of systems, since the token has to be passed 
along to all systems.
Tuning: reduce the number of systems in the SYSPLEX.
Or, go to STAR.

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Re: 9037 limits

2005-11-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 AFAIK, 9037-2 has max. 24 ports, and 9037-1 has 16 ports.
 So, how it is possible to have 32 members in sysplex ?
 
 Q2: Does CF require connectivity to sysplex timer ?
 
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A1: LPARs! A machine requires connection to a sysplex timer and can house many 
LPARs and sysplex members.

A2: Only if you use the System Managed Coupling Facility Structure Duplexing 
feature.

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Re: GRS ring vs star mode

2005-11-04 Thread R.S.

Ted MacNEIL wrote:

Is the difference because of star mode advantage or just I have 


something something to tune when using ring mode ?
...

Ring is affected by the number of systems, since the token has to be passed 
along to all systems.
Tuning: reduce the number of systems in the SYSPLEX.
Or, go to STAR.


Ted,
Thank you for the explanation, but as I mentioned, I have two systems in 
the sysplex, to the difference (according to some opinions) shouldn't be 
 very big. But it is.


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Re: Tape drives in twilight zone

2005-11-04 Thread Scott Fagen
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:40:26 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the third system owned that subset of the tape drives, why were they
shown AFH on that system, too?

Because the display and the AFH status are maintained as 'sysplex-wide'
properties.  If you read the display closely, it should indicate _which_
system(s) the devices are defined as autoswitchable (these devices should
have shown up in the list of devices defined as AS on other systems).

If you did a normal D U for the range, the devices would have shown up as
online, but not autoswitchable.

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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI and GRS

2005-11-04 Thread ibm-main
From: Peter Relson

 Time to enflame the waters...

I've been away for a couple of days. Seems this didn't even register a bite.
Time for me to rectify that oversight.

 There is absolutely nothing wrong, incorrect, improper, or unexpected
about
 any system space (GRS) using as much memory above 2G as it wants, provided
 that it has documented that use so that customers can properly plan. Note
 that I am differentiating GRS from DB2 in this regard.

Hey Scott, are you ears burning mate         ;-)

 To my thinking MEMLIMIT is the above 2G analog of REGION. REGION does not
 apply to authorized high private subpools; MEMLIMIT would not apply to
 high private above 2G if such a term existed but it comes down to
 storage above 2G obtained by system spaces.

This (auth exception) has been a cause of some angst for years amongst (some
of) us poor plods that have to keep working user systems perambulating
along..
Even were it true, we might still have a bitch - but there are any number of
ISVs out there all demanding Auth libraries, and all trying to use all
nefarious means to bypass any and all sane controls by the *USERS* that
purchase their software, and continue to pay the IT equivalent of usury.
system spaces in this context may have meaning to you Peter, but in the
real world it means bloody near anything that runs.

 And all that you would do is break the system by
 trying to impose a limit where none should be imposed.

And why is their no tracking of said usage ???.
Remember SMF ??? - some of us find it quite useful in our day-to-day lives.
This is an unforgivable omission.

Shane ...

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Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-04 Thread Knutson, Sam
In the TMON lab we always ran new ESP releases of z/OS under z/VM just
so we could have read only access to our existing DASD in the Sysplex
before toleration service was available to actually bring the guests
into the Sysplex.   This worked well you just have to have some volumes
exclusive under z/VM read/write for work data sets on the guest.  It
allowed us to easily import or reference data sets from our normal
systems.  

This is perfectly safe since z/VM will enforce read only access if that
is the way a disk is attached you are not violating any sharing rules.
If you have problems it will be in the guest reading something dirty
without serialization but that was acceptable for our test systems. 

Best Regards,

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Oh, I'm not too sure how well z/OS will tolerate a read only disk. I 
remember doing it long ago with MVS 3.8j and VM/370. I'd get some 
strange I/O errors at times.



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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI and GRS

2005-11-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I am differentiating GRS from DB2 in this regard.

One thing to remember: DB2 is already (in most shops) using HIPERPOOLs (even in 
64-bit mode).

What V8 will do is move all of those into its own adress space.

So, you are alread back-stored in AUX.
What the issue is, what happens when the DBA asks for more?

Then, justification, analysis, plan, acquisition,  implementation.

Hopefully, most of the above steps are taken.

But, Shane is right.
Where is the instrumentation?

A large computer corporation used to say: “If you can't measure it, you can't 
manage it!”.

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Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-04 Thread Crispin Hugo
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Re: Where and how to start with Unicode fonts?

2005-11-04 Thread Kok, Howi
Steve Comstock's company website
http://www.trainersfriend.com/General_content/Book_site.htm has an
introduction to this topic.  Steve is a regular contributor to a few
listservs.

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Re: Heads-up: OA08692

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 07:12:08 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OA08692 has cost us a 1.4 system when a 1.6 system was IPL'd. It is not
marked hiper and my colleagues tell me that it is not on the list of
toleration maintenance for 1.6
IBM has confirmed a correlation between the 0C4 described in there and the
tight loop in memterm tasks in master (RRS memterm resource manager) on the
1.4 system. It died not doing signalling anymore, so the 1.6 system spit
out
IXC402D.
And you call me paranoid - we always hit the worst case scenarios...
Regards, Barbara Nitz



I thought it was our shop that did that.   :-)

Kidding aside, don't you have a preventive maintenance philosophy
there?  We've had that fix on since April this year.  According to
the APAR text the fix has been available since October of 2004
(a year ago) and was on RSU0503. We usually try to do RSU maintenance
on a quarterly basis.

  PTF List:
  Release 706   : UA14015 available 04/10/13 (F410 )
  Release 707   : UA14016 available 04/10/13 (F410 )
  Release 708   : UA14017 available 04/10/13 (F410 )
  Release 709   : UA14018 available 04/10/13 (F410 )

I know if took an outage on that error and the management above
our level found out an RSU fix was available 6 months ago, we would
be the ones in the hot seat.

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Re: Heads-up: OA08692

2005-11-04 Thread McKown, John
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snip

 
 Kidding aside, don't you have a preventive maintenance philosophy
 there?  We've had that fix on since April this year.  According to
snip

Perhaps, like our shop the preventive maintenance philosophy is
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Re: PKZIP for mainframe

2005-11-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Can that invocation of IEBGENER be done from REXX called under a shell, and
if so is address TSO required first?  Or can this only be accomplished
from TSO/batch REXX?

Thanks for helping cure my ignorance.

Peter 

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Snipped
If it's gzipped or zipped but not tarred (there's some, but little, point in
tarring a sequential file) a Rexx script can pipe the output of gunzip or
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allocated to a Classic data set.  This removes the need for an HFS
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Re: F against a REXX STC

2005-11-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
More specifically, google for QEDIT +assembler +MVS and look at the
WAITREXX page from Xephon.

Just googling QEDIT gets you to the semware.com page for the PC file editor
QEDIT, now named The Semware Editor, a fine tool indeed (disclaimer: I
have owned/used/recommended it since PCDOS days) but not what you would be
looking for here.

Peter

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Can I send MVS modify command against a REXX that is running as an STC?

Not in pure REXX, but you can do it with a small REXX-callable assembler
program. Google for QEDIT.

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Problem with RMM and VRSes

2005-11-04 Thread Staffan Tylen
Existing VRS chain:

ADDVRS DSN('ABC.DEF.**.GV¬¬') CYCLES LOCATION(DR2H) STORENUMBER(1)
WHILECATALOG NEXTVRS(DR8H)
ADDVRS NAME(DR8H) NEXTVRS(VLT1) LOCATION(DR8H) STORENUMBER(1)
ADDVRS NAME(VLT1) LOCATION(VLT1) STORENUMBER(9)

Using this schema we expect to see ABC.DEF.XYZ(0) in DR2H, ABC.DEF.XYZ(-1)
in DR8H, and the remaining GDGs in VLT1. But all GDGs end up in DR2H and
do not move on to DR8H and VLT1. What are we doing wrong? We are on zOS
1.4. These are the LOCDEFs in place:

LOCDEF LOCATION(DR2H) TYPE(STORAGE) MANAGEMENTTYPE(NOBINS) MEDIANAME(*)
LOCDEF LOCATION(DR8H) TYPE(STORAGE) MANAGEMENTTYPE(NOBINS) MEDIANAME(*)
LOCDEF LOCATION(VLT1) TYPE(STORAGE) MANAGEMENTTYPE(NOBINS) MEDIANAME(*)

Thanks in advance.
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Re: ZIP SOFTWARE for Mainframe

2005-11-04 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Ted MacNEIL wrote:


Do you want to be able to get the problem fixed, or do you just want to
   


be able to sue somebody?
...

I'm Canadian!
Litigation is not a national passtime as it is in some countries.
 



[Waaay off topic]

Funny you mention this. It was the topic of a dinner conversation about 
a year ago. Subsequent research led us to this outstanding study from 
the Fraser Institute: 
http://oldfraser.lexi.net/publications/books/laws_markets/. All 
Canadians should take the time to read this publication in its entirety.


Of particular interest is Easton's contribution Some Economics of the 
Canadian Legal Profession. Here are a couple of excerpts to pique your 
interest:


The single most striking characteristic of the Canadian legal 
profession from an outsider's perspective is the expansion of the number 
of participants in the industry. From 1985 to 1995, the number of 
members of the Canadian Bar Association increased by 37 percent. During 
this same period the population of Canada grew only 13 percent.


Canada is not the only common-law jurisdiction with many lawyers. In 
comparison to the United States in 1993, we have only about two-thirds 
as many lawyers per capita. However, it is also the case that we are 
training more, faster. In 1971, Canada had half as many lawyers as the 
United States; by 1981 the figure was 60 percent. Figure 3 points to the 
rapid increase in the proportion of lawyers in Canada relative to the 
United States. In the past few years (not shown in the figure), the 
per-capita number of lawyers in the United States has actually declined 
slightly, while the number in Canada continues to increase.


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VTS PtP Peer to Peer

2005-11-04 Thread Toby Weaver
We are getting ready to turn on Peer to Peer for DR purposes. When it
comes time to perform a DR test we have thought of some issues that we
would like to hear how other companies react to them.

1. Files using Disp=Mod or Disp=Old and modding on to a vts file. If we
allow this to happen the data goes back to the Production Local VTS.

2. We have a lot of non gdg files that are deleted and re-allocated. At
time of DR test the catalog info is split, but PtP continues. We may not
test Apps for a few hours and by that time we may have different versions
of those files.

3. We are going to put HSM into the VTS and when tapes are re-cycled on
the local end, the HSM CDS files on the DR side will not be in synch with
the VTS. My thought is just turning off re-cycle on Local side while test
is occuring would resolve this.

Help.

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ISPF PROFILE Question.

2005-11-04 Thread Howard Rifkind
Sorry I forgot how to change the profile in ISPF ... the part where I can 
change PF key meanings like retrieve etc.
 
Help.
 
Thanks.


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Re: ISPF PROFILE Question.

2005-11-04 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 11/4/2005 10:33:45 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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Sorry I  forgot how to change the profile in ISPF ... the part where I can 
change PF  key meanings like retrieve etc.




KEYS

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Re: ISPF PROFILE Question.

2005-11-04 Thread Dave Salt

From: Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry I forgot how to change the profile in ISPF ... the part where I can 
change PF key meanings like retrieve etc.


Do you mean interactively or programmatically? If interactively, type KEYS 
on the ISPF command line. If you mean programmatically, do something like 
this:


/* REXX */
address ispexec
zpf02 = SPLIT NEW
zpf09 = SWAP NEXT
VPUT (ZPF02 ZPF09) PROFILE
exit


Hope that helps,

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Re: ISPF PROFILE Question.

2005-11-04 Thread Bruce Black

on the ISPF command line, type KEYS

If you run under multiple ISPF application IDs, this will change the 
keys only in your current profile.


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Re: ISPF PROFILE Question.

2005-11-04 Thread Robert Wright
Howard Rifkind wrote on 11/04/2005 11:31:03 AM:

 Sorry I forgot how to change the profile in ISPF ... the part where
 I can change PF key meanings like retrieve etc.

Do two things:

1.  Get into the application where you want to see/alter the definitions of
the program function keys.  Each application has a separate set.

2.  Type KEYS as a primary command.

You'll see a panel showing either all your keys (12-pfkey terminals) or the
primary ones.

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Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Charles Mills
I've got a customer getting IRX0159E The run time processor EAGRTPRC is not
available for a compiled program running in NON-TSO BATCH. He says that
hlq.xxx.SEAGALT has been added to the LPA. I'm a development guy, not an
ops/sysprog guy, so please forgive me if these questions are not phrased
perfectly correctly. Questions:

- Does what he is reporting seem right? Is it possible to get the EAGRTPRC
error if SEAGALT has been added properly to the LPA? Should he be looking
for some sort of failure to do his SMP/E stuff correctly in adding SEAGALT
to the LPA?

- Is the Compiler Programming Table (CPT) IRXCMPTM relevant to NON-TSO BATCH
compiled Rexx, or only to Rexx programs running in a TSO environment?

It's a customer system and I do not have access to it except through the
customer contact.

Yes, I've RTFM and searched the archives.

Thanks for your help,
Charles
 

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Re: ISPF PROFILE Question.

2005-11-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 Nov 2005 08:33:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Rifkind)
wrote:

Sorry I forgot how to change the profile in ISPF ... the part where I can 
change PF key meanings like retrieve etc.

Type in the word keys from the command line.

This screen pages, and doesn't cover the whole of ISPF, so go to
various ISPF  SDSF screens and repeat the process.

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Brian Peterson
My theory is that you should STEPLIB to xxx.SEAGALT.  This is based upon
reading TSO/E Customization, as well as IBMLink entries for MSGIRX0159E,
and my observation that xxx.SEAGALT ships with its own version of IRXCMPTM -
 presumably customized to tell TSO/E REXX to call the Rexx compiler.

Brian

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:51:47 -0500, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've got a customer getting IRX0159E The run time processor EAGRTPRC is not
available for a compiled program running in NON-TSO BATCH. He says that
hlq.xxx.SEAGALT has been added to the LPA. I'm a development guy, not an
ops/sysprog guy, so please forgive me if these questions are not phrased
perfectly correctly. Questions:

- Does what he is reporting seem right? Is it possible to get the EAGRTPRC
error if SEAGALT has been added properly to the LPA? Should he be looking
for some sort of failure to do his SMP/E stuff correctly in adding SEAGALT
to the LPA?

- Is the Compiler Programming Table (CPT) IRXCMPTM relevant to NON-TSO
BATCH
compiled Rexx, or only to Rexx programs running in a TSO environment?

It's a customer system and I do not have access to it except through the
customer contact.

Yes, I've RTFM and searched the archives.

Thanks for your help,
Charles

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Re: 9037 limits

2005-11-04 Thread Skip Robinson
You need only one physical connection per CEC. If you tried to create a
single sysplex with more than 24 CECs, you would have a problem.

A much bigger problem than the 9037.  ;-)

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 AFAIK, 9037-2 has max. 24 ports, and 9037-1 has 16 ports.
 So, how it is possible to have 32 members in sysplex ?

 Q2: Does CF require connectivity to sysplex timer ?

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Re: 9037 limits

2005-11-04 Thread Brian Peterson
A2: It depends upon the hardware that the CF is running on.

According to PR/SM Planning Guide (SB10-7036-04), any CF running on z890 or
z990 [or newer] requires a connection to the same Sysplex Timer providing
time for all members of the parallel sysplex.  If the CF is an LPAR in a
machine which is already connected to the sysplex timer, this is sufficient.

See topic Sysplex Timer and the Coupling Facility in the above manual for
more details, including an explanation why IBM decided to implement
timestamps in all CF messages.

Brian

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:23:14 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Q2: Does CF require connectivity to sysplex timer ?

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Re: PKZIP for mainframe

2005-11-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Farley, Peter x23353 said:

 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:08:23 -0500
 
 Can that invocation of IEBGENER be done from REXX called under a shell, and
 if so is address TSO required first?  Or can this only be accomplished
 from TSO/batch REXX?
 
Yes; no; not necessarily.  There's a splendid example of exactly this
in:

Title: z/OS V1R7.0 TSO/E REXX Reference
Document Number: SA22-7790-06

# 2.5.9.2 z/OS V1R7.0 TSO/E REXX Reference
 __
 2.5.9.2 The LINKMVS and ATTCHMVS Host Command Environments

Allocate DDNAMEs as necessary with BPXWDYN, described in:

Title: z/OS V1R7.0 Using REXX and z/OS UNIX System Services
Document Number: SA22-7806-09

6.0   BPXWDYN: a text interface to dynamic allocation
   and dynamic output

Use address SYSCALL 'pipe stem.' to create the pipe;  address
SYSCALL 'spawnp funzip ...' to execute the unzip process.

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Re: 9037 limits

2005-11-04 Thread Brian Peterson
Oops

The requirement goes back just a bit further than z890-z990.  According to
PR/SM Planning Guide (SB10-7033-06), this requirement was actually
introduced with z900 2xx models [or newer].

Brian's summary:
9672 - timer not required
2066 - timer not required
2064-1xx - timer not required
2064-2xx - timer IS required
2084 - timer IS required, etc

Brian

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:32:47 -0600, Brian Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A2: It depends upon the hardware that the CF is running on.

According to PR/SM Planning Guide (SB10-7036-04), any CF running on z890 or
z990 [or newer] requires a connection to the same Sysplex Timer providing
time for all members of the parallel sysplex.  If the CF is an LPAR in a
machine which is already connected to the sysplex timer, this is
sufficient.

See topic Sysplex Timer and the Coupling Facility in the above manual for
more details, including an explanation why IBM decided to implement
timestamps in all CF messages.

Brian

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:23:14 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Q2: Does CF require connectivity to sysplex timer ?

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. The customer says its impractical for him to STEPLIB to SEAGALT
(lots of jobs to modify) and he would like it linklisted or in the LPA or
something like that which would not require a JOBLIB or STEPLIB. We vendors
like to avoid arguing with the customer :-)

Charles


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My theory is that you should STEPLIB to xxx.SEAGALT.  This is based upon
reading TSO/E Customization, as well as IBMLink entries for MSGIRX0159E,
and my observation that xxx.SEAGALT ships with its own version of IRXCMPTM -
 presumably customized to tell TSO/E REXX to call the Rexx compiler.

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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Zelden
Folks,

I had some time this morning and updated my tool to also show shared
memory objects for z/OS 1.5 and above.  I've renamed it to RXSTOR64.

You can get RXSTOR64 at my web site in the EXECs/CLIST section or by
downloading the TSO XMIT format file:
http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html

If anyone (including vendors)actually has shared memory objects,
I'd appreciate you trying this out and letting me know if it
actually works.  :-)

BTW, my web site counter rolled past 300,000 sometime in the
last couple of days.  Thanks to everyone for their support!

Regards,

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Re: PKZIP for mainframe

2005-11-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the references!  Education is a wonderful thing.

Peter 

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In a recent note, Farley, Peter x23353 said:

 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:08:23 -0500
 
 Can that invocation of IEBGENER be done from REXX called under a 
 shell, and if so is address TSO required first?  Or can this only be 
 accomplished from TSO/batch REXX?
 
Yes; no; not necessarily.  There's a splendid example of exactly this
in:

Title: z/OS V1R7.0 TSO/E REXX Reference
Document Number: SA22-7790-06

# 2.5.9.2 z/OS V1R7.0 TSO/E REXX Reference
 __
 2.5.9.2 The LINKMVS and ATTCHMVS Host Command Environments

Allocate DDNAMEs as necessary with BPXWDYN, described in:

Title: z/OS V1R7.0 Using REXX and z/OS UNIX System Services
Document Number: SA22-7806-09

6.0   BPXWDYN: a text interface to dynamic allocation
   and dynamic output

Use address SYSCALL 'pipe stem.' to create the pipe;  address SYSCALL
'spawnp funzip ...' to execute the unzip process.

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Brian Peterson
Then the customer must complete the installation instructions for making
the Rexx Compiler available on his system.  Specifically, he must update
IRXCMTPM in SYS1.LINKLIB to reflect the fact that the Rexx Compiler is
installed.

By STEPLIBing to xxx.SEAGALT, the customer would pick up the copy of
IRXCMPTM provided in that data set before the default one found in
SYS1.LINKLIB.  However, since the customer does not wish to STEPLIB to
xxx.SEAGALT, then they must update the version of IRXCMPTM in SYS1.LINKLIB.

One explanation for this process is in APAR PK02480 under heading
6. Install the Compiler Programming Table (CPT).  Another is presumably
in the installation documentation for the Rexx Compiler.

A generic version of this procedure is also found in TSO/E Customization,
topic 7.1.3  The Compiler Programming Table, which contains the following
text:

The IRXCMPTM module that TSO/E provides in LINKLIB contains no entries,
which indicates to TSO/E that a compiler runtime processor is not
installed.  TSO/E provides source for a sample compiler programming table
in SYS1.SAMPLIB member IRXREXX4. IRXREXX4 is not intended to be used as
shipped in SYS1.SAMPLIB. Refer to your compiler's installation
documentation for the requirements for the IRXCMPTM module.

Brian

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:45:22 -0500, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks. The customer says its impractical for him to STEPLIB to SEAGALT
(lots of jobs to modify) and he would like it linklisted or in the LPA or
something like that which would not require a JOBLIB or STEPLIB. We vendors
like to avoid arguing with the customer :-)

Charles


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My theory is that you should STEPLIB to xxx.SEAGALT.  This is based upon
reading TSO/E Customization, as well as IBMLink entries for MSGIRX0159E,
and my observation that xxx.SEAGALT ships with its own version of
IRXCMPTM -
 presumably customized to tell TSO/E REXX to call the Rexx compiler.

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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI

2005-11-04 Thread Richards.Bob
Mark,

It does work:

BROWSE   Mark's MVS Utilities - RXSTOR64  Tasks found with objects 
Command ===  Scroll === HALF 
 Top of Data **
6 4 - B I T S T O R A G E A L L O C A T I O N  
   
 TASK MEMORY   MEMLIM   NUMALLOC  HIDDENHWM   SHARE   SHARE   SHARE
 NAME LIMITSOURCE   OBJ MEM MEM MEM   # OBJ   ALLOCHWM 
---  ---  ---  -  --  --  --  -  --  --
GRS  64P  AUTHPGM  4  20461M  17076M   7048M  0  0M  0M
OMVS NOLIMIT   REG=0M  3 30M  0M 30M  0  0M  0M
*** Bottom of Data 

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Zelden
So what will STEPLIBing do if SEAGALT is (correctly) in LPA and it
doesn't work?  Perhaps there is another IRXCMPTM being used via
STEPLIB that isn't the one from SEAGALT.

BTW, SEAGALT is in the LPA for us because of ISV product(s) that need
the customized IRXCMPTM that is supplied.

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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:19:34 -0600, Brian Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My theory is that you should STEPLIB to xxx.SEAGALT.  This is based upon
reading TSO/E Customization, as well as IBMLink entries for MSGIRX0159E,
and my observation that xxx.SEAGALT ships with its own version of
IRXCMPTM -
 presumably customized to tell TSO/E REXX to call the Rexx compiler.

Brian

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:51:47 -0500, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've got a customer getting IRX0159E The run time processor EAGRTPRC is
not
available for a compiled program running in NON-TSO BATCH. He says that
hlq.xxx.SEAGALT has been added to the LPA. I'm a development guy, not an
ops/sysprog guy, so please forgive me if these questions are not phrased
perfectly correctly. Questions:

- Does what he is reporting seem right? Is it possible to get the EAGRTPRC
error if SEAGALT has been added properly to the LPA? Should he be looking
for some sort of failure to do his SMP/E stuff correctly in adding SEAGALT
to the LPA?

- Is the Compiler Programming Table (CPT) IRXCMPTM relevant to NON-TSO
BATCH
compiled Rexx, or only to Rexx programs running in a TSO environment?

It's a customer system and I do not have access to it except through the
customer contact.

Yes, I've RTFM and searched the archives.

Thanks for your help,
Charles

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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI

2005-11-04 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Richards.Bob wrote:


Mark,

It does work:

BROWSE   Mark's MVS Utilities - RXSTOR64  Tasks found with objects 
Command ===  Scroll === HALF 
 Top of Data **
   6 4 - B I T S T O R A G E A L L O C A T I O N  
  
TASK MEMORY   MEMLIM   NUMALLOC  HIDDENHWM   SHARE   SHARE   SHARE
NAME LIMITSOURCE   OBJ MEM MEM MEM   # OBJ   ALLOCHWM 
---  ---  ---  -  --  --  --  -  --  --

GRS  64P  AUTHPGM  4  20461M  17076M   7048M  0  0M  0M
OMVS NOLIMIT   REG=0M  3 30M  0M 30M  0  0M  0M
*** Bottom of Data 
 



How do you know it works? You don't have any shared memory objects!

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Brian Peterson
What did you do with the default IRXCMPTM in SYS1.LINKLIB provided by TSO/E?

Brian

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:03:07 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

So what will STEPLIBing do if SEAGALT is (correctly) in LPA and it
doesn't work?  Perhaps there is another IRXCMPTM being used via
STEPLIB that isn't the one from SEAGALT.

BTW, SEAGALT is in the LPA for us because of ISV product(s) that need
the customized IRXCMPTM that is supplied.

Mark


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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:00:27 -0500, Richards.Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Mark,

It does work:


   SHARE   SHARE   SHARE
   # OBJ   ALLOCHWM
   -  --  --
   0  0M  0M


I know the private stuff works.  I'm looking for someone who can
test shared memory objects.  Perhaps to also include a
D VS,HVSHARE along with the output.

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:04:34 -0600, Brian Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What did you do with the default IRXCMPTM in SYS1.LINKLIB provided by
TSO/E?

Brian


Nothing.  LPA is searched before the LNKLST.

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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI

2005-11-04 Thread Patrick . Falcone
Mark, 

We should all be thanking you for all you've done on the list.

I went out to your web site and found myself in the pool area and checking 
out your family. You seemingly have a lot to be grateful for. I also 
appreciate all the help you have given me over time. You seem to be a real 
genuine guy and I really appreciate all that you've done for me in the 
past.

Take care and have a great weekend!

PS. The pool pictures were funny.



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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI

2005-11-04 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden
 Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 11:50 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI
 
 
 Folks,
 
 I had some time this morning and updated my tool to also show shared
 memory objects for z/OS 1.5 and above.  I've renamed it to RXSTOR64.
 
 You can get RXSTOR64 at my web site in the EXECs/CLIST section or by
 downloading the TSO XMIT format file:
 http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html
 
 If anyone (including vendors)actually has shared memory objects,
 I'd appreciate you trying this out and letting me know if it
 actually works.  :-)
 
 BTW, my web site counter rolled past 300,000 sometime in the
 last couple of days.  Thanks to everyone for their support!
 
 Regards,
 
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z/OS 1.6 test system report from RXSTOR64:

* Top of Data
**
 6 4 - B I T S T O R A G E A L L O C A T I O N

  TASK MEMORY   MEMLIM   NUMALLOC  HIDDENHWM   SHARE   SHARE
SHARE
  NAME LIMITSOURCE   OBJ MEM MEM MEM   # OBJ   ALLOC
HWM
  ---  ---  -  --  --  --  -  --
--
GRS   64P  AUTHPGM  4  20461M  17076M   7048M  0  0M
0M

D VS,HVSHARE reports:

D VS,HVSHARE
IAR019I  13.10.06 DISPLAY VIRTSTOR 074
 SOURCE = DEFAULT
 TOTAL SHARED = 522240G
 SHARED RANGE = 2048G-524288G
 SHARED ALLOCATED = 0M

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Brian Peterson
This just goes to show the dangers of my trying to comment on something I
really don't know anything about.  Lesson learned

Brian

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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:04:34 -0600, Brian Peterson
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What did you do with the default IRXCMPTM in SYS1.LINKLIB provided by
TSO/E?

Brian


Nothing.  LPA is searched before the LNKLST.

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Charles Mills
The customer does not license the compiler. So there is no matter of
installing the compiler. This is all about the alternate library. He has it
installed, but apparently in the wrong place.

I think I am starting to understand this. IBM supplies a null IRXCMPTM in
SYS1.LINKLIB. To use the alternate library, you have to get the one from
SEAGALT ahead of the one in SYS1.LINKLIB in the search order.

Putting SEAGALT in STEPLIB does that, but the customer does not want to do
that.

I guess the LPA is searched ahead of SYS1.LINKLIB but the LinkList is not?
Or is it the other way around? (Again, forgive my confusion, I don't pretend
to be a sysprog.)

The problem appears to be that the customer's job is finding the original
IRXCMPTM in SYS1.LINKLIB rather than the alias for the one in SEAGALT
because it's in the wrong library or list (see previous paragraph).

Any one of you experts who would like to straighten out my confusion, your
assistance is welcome.

Charles

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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI

2005-11-04 Thread Richards.Bob
Oops!

Before, on another system, I had NO objects at all. I did not look closely 
enough when I did see some! Sorry for the confusion.

Bob 

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Richards.Bob wrote:

Mark,

It does work:

BROWSE   Mark's MVS Utilities - RXSTOR64  Tasks found with objects 
Command ===  Scroll === HALF 
 Top of Data **
6 4 - B I T S T O R A G E A L L O C A T I O N  
   
 TASK MEMORY   MEMLIM   NUMALLOC  HIDDENHWM   SHARE   SHARE   SHARE
 NAME LIMITSOURCE   OBJ MEM MEM MEM   # OBJ   ALLOCHWM 
---  ---  ---  -  --  --  --  -  --  --
GRS  64P  AUTHPGM  4  20461M  17076M   7048M  0  0M  0M
OMVS NOLIMIT   REG=0M  3 30M  0M 30M  0  0M  0M
*** Bottom of Data 
  


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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:20:52 -0500, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I guess the LPA is searched ahead of SYS1.LINKLIB but the LinkList is not?
Or is it the other way around? (Again, forgive my confusion, I don't
pretend
to be a sysprog.)


LPA before SYS1.LINKLIB (and LNKLST which SYS1.LINKLIB is part of).

SYS1.LINKLIB is at the top of the LNKLST unless replaced by a
site library (VIA SYSLIB LINKLIB statement in PROGxx) and then
it must be specifically included in the LNKLST search order.
I've never seen any shop not put it as high up as they can,
but it is not a requirement.

As far as search order in general... can't say it better than
the expert:

http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9809L=ibm-mainO=DF=S=P=142568

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Re: ISPF PROFILE Question.

2005-11-04 Thread Anthony Bongiorno
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Re: GRS ring vs star mode

2005-11-04 Thread Skip Robinson
My story is improbable but true. We have four full function parallel
sysplexes in our enterprise. Of these four, three were converted to star
mode some time ago. The fourth had at most two members, one of which was
very lightly used. So lightly used, in fact, that we stopped running it
altogether; the LPAR has not even been activated for some time. Conversion
from ring to star mode hardly seemed worth the trouble.

A few months ago we had occasion to run a catalog scan job on all
sysplexes. It did very heavy reads but no updates. We noticed after a while
that the job ran *many times longer* on the ring mode sysplex than anywhere
else. No more catalogs to scan; no more data sets; just a lot more elapsed
time. Only one image IPLed on a huge box: a 2064-1C6 with 10 gig of memory.

I had an inspiration. We converted the sysplex to star mode. From that
moment on, with no other changes, the catalog job ran as well there as it
did on the other star mode sysplexes.

Conclusion: even with *one* member, star mode rules.

.
.
.
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 I created sandbox sysplex within one CPC (shared CPs for both MVS and CF
 LPARs, IC channels).
 I observed significant performance improvement when changed GRS from
 ring to star mode. I didn't notice such improvement, when changed XCF
 transport from CTC (ESCON) to CF structures.
  From the other hand I was told that there is not noticeable difference
 between ring mode and star mode for two-member sysplex.

 Is the difference because of star mode advantage or just I have
 something something to tune when using ring mode ?
 BTW: I don't want to use ring, it's just curiosity.

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JES2 output message

2005-11-04 Thread Philip Miscione
Can anybody tell me what this message means, I looked it up and it isn't
very clear,
What does unprintable mean ?


JPMD10L  LINE WRITE 10/31/2005   2 (002) FSI RELDS UNPRINTABLE-FSA
JPMD10D  LINE WRITE 10/31/2005   2 (002) FSI RELDS UNPRINTABLE-FSA
JPMD10D  LINE WRITE 11/01/2005   2 (002) FSI RELDS UNPRINTABLE-FSA

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Re: JES2 output message

2005-11-04 Thread Desi de la Garza
Possible printing outside the printable area. Check printer to make sure it
is config'd to print to the edge of paper or check formdef/pagedef stuff.

Thanks,
 
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Can anybody tell me what this message means, I looked it up and it isn't
very clear,
What does unprintable mean ?




JPMD10L  LINE WRITE 10/31/2005   2 (002) FSI RELDS UNPRINTABLE-FSA
JPMD10D  LINE WRITE 10/31/2005   2 (002) FSI RELDS UNPRINTABLE-FSA
JPMD10D  LINE WRITE 11/01/2005   2 (002) FSI RELDS UNPRINTABLE-FSA

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Re: JES2 output message

2005-11-04 Thread Ed Finnell
 
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What  does unprintable mean ?





Depending on how PSF and JES are setup, it usually prints the
reason to the DEST printer and HOLDs the output. Something like
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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Skip Robinson
I don't like to depend on the coincidental search order of libraries that
IBM supplies. We modify IRXCMPTM with an SMPE usermod. It goes on each new
release with some simple MCS updates. The module goes into SYS1.LINKLIB.

BTW This is the right way to handle lots of customization. We have 70 - 80
usermods for everything from ISPF panels to system exits. Once you've the
constructed the usermods, they're easy to maintain. You also have the
incomparable of advantage of learning--via SMPE conflict messages--when
something you've tailored is getting updated by IBM PTF, so you can go back
and revisit/rework your usermod.

.
.
.
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 The customer does not license the compiler. So there is no matter of
 installing the compiler. This is all about the alternate library. He has
it
 installed, but apparently in the wrong place.

 I think I am starting to understand this. IBM supplies a null IRXCMPTM
in
 SYS1.LINKLIB. To use the alternate library, you have to get the one from
 SEAGALT ahead of the one in SYS1.LINKLIB in the search order.

 Putting SEAGALT in STEPLIB does that, but the customer does not want to
do
 that.

 I guess the LPA is searched ahead of SYS1.LINKLIB but the LinkList is
not?
 Or is it the other way around? (Again, forgive my confusion, I don't
pretend
 to be a sysprog.)

 The problem appears to be that the customer's job is finding the original
 IRXCMPTM in SYS1.LINKLIB rather than the alias for the one in SEAGALT
 because it's in the wrong library or list (see previous paragraph).

 Any one of you experts who would like to straighten out my confusion,
your
 assistance is welcome.

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:34:16 -0800, Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I don't like to depend on the coincidental search order of libraries that
IBM supplies.

This isn't coincidental, it is planned. The order doesn't matter as
long as SEAGALT is in LPALSTxx.

We modify IRXCMPTM with an SMPE usermod. It goes on each new
release with some simple MCS updates. The module goes into SYS1.LINKLIB.

BTW This is the right way to handle lots of customization.

Agree that modifications should be done with SMP/E usermods. But in
this case, there is no modication - just a parmlib member.  It's
simply a preference to have one less usermod as opposed to the
right way.  Not much different than using any PARMLIB member that
replaces assembled options. For example, SDSF parms, LE parms in
z/OS 1.7, etc.

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Re: VTS PtP Peer to Peer

2005-11-04 Thread Nelliyappan Manivel, Sridhar - Sridher
You can put your remote VTS in read-only mode, I believe. You need to
break the peers until the DR exercise is over. You need to redirect
output tapes to a different library/VTS. Turning 'off' HSM reclamation
is a good idea. 

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We are getting ready to turn on Peer to Peer for DR purposes. When it
comes time to perform a DR test we have thought of some issues that we
would like to hear how other companies react to them.

1. Files using Disp=Mod or Disp=Old and modding on to a vts file. If we
allow this to happen the data goes back to the Production Local VTS.

2. We have a lot of non gdg files that are deleted and re-allocated. At
time of DR test the catalog info is split, but PtP continues. We may not
test Apps for a few hours and by that time we may have different
versions
of those files.

3. We are going to put HSM into the VTS and when tapes are re-cycled on
the local end, the HSM CDS files on the DR side will not be in synch
with
the VTS. My thought is just turning off re-cycle on Local side while
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IEFACTRT modifications

2005-11-04 Thread John Norgauer
We are using the CBTTAPE version of IEFACTRT. This version displays on the
Console and the batch job's JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG
step and job statistic messages. While the info display on the JESMSGLG and
JESYSMSG are very
useful to the batch job submitter, the messages that appear on the console
and SYSLOG
are really very redundant and not needed. Has anyone modified this exit to
eliminate the latter
messages? If so, what was your approach.

I tried changing the ROUTCDES, but to no avail.

Thanks

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Re: PKZIP for mainframe

2005-11-04 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Does somebody know I re-port GZIP from Harald with some enhancement.
You can find the source at www.cbttape.org. It's called GZIP/390 

Well it was years ago and so far I know of two clients using them in production.

If I get payed I'll verify if I can imrpove the coding and also provide 
one-day support. So far the two clients haven't request this so it seems
the freewar at cbttape works fine for them or they made some changed outside the
GNU license stuff. 

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On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:23:53 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 11/03/2005
   at 08:28 AM, Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 They are transferring huge files (3 -4 gig) from some other platform 
 (probably Unix) to z/OS. They need to reduce transfer time from 8 
 hours.

 A Unix platform is probably using tar and gzip, which should 
work just 
 fine on your end. Unless you need the extra functionality, 
Info-Zip is 
 the obvious alternative to gzip. I don't know which of the two is 
 faster.

If it's gzipped or zipped but not tarred (there's some, but 
little, point in tarring a sequential file) a Rexx script can 
pipe the output of gunzip or funzip (the latter from info-ZIP) 
directly into IEBGENER with SYSUT2 allocated to a Classic data 
set.  This removes the need for an HFS intermediate file.

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Re: IEFACTRT modifications

2005-11-04 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi John,

Which IEFACTRT there are a bunch on the CBT Tape?   You should just be
able to change the WTO to route code 11 and the hardcopy only flag for
good measure and the messages should not be on any console.   Have you
checked the route codes that the console is set to display?

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We are using the CBTTAPE version of IEFACTRT. This version displays on
the Console and the batch job's JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG step and job
statistic messages. While the info display on the JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG
are very useful to the batch job submitter, the messages that appear on
the console and SYSLOG are really very redundant and not needed. Has
anyone modified this exit to eliminate the latter messages? If so, what
was your approach.

I tried changing the ROUTCDES, but to no avail.

Thanks

John Norgauer
University of California Davis Medical Center
2315 Stockton Blvd
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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Skip Robinson
I say 'coincidental' because load module components can move from release
to release. IBM might decide, for example, to put something into
SYS1.LPALIB for performance.

As for whether a usermod is a true 'modification', that's a matter of
terminology. We have several 'mods' that just turn a SAMPLIB member into
MOD/LMOD elements. That way if the SAMPLIB member gets updated, then we
find out immediately.

As for the other examples (SDSF parms, LE parms), we install those with
SMPE usermods also. Quick and dirty is high on speed, low on hygiene.
Cleaner may mean quicker down the long road.

.
.
.
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IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 11/04/2005
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 On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:34:16 -0800, Skip Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I don't like to depend on the coincidental search order of libraries
that
 IBM supplies.

 This isn't coincidental, it is planned. The order doesn't matter as
 long as http://www.novaspace.com/AUTO/Giclee.html is in LPALSTxx.

 We modify IRXCMPTM with an SMPE usermod. It goes on each new
 release with some simple MCS updates. The module goes into SYS1.LINKLIB.
 
 BTW This is the right way to handle lots of customization.

 Agree that modifications should be done with SMP/E usermods. But in
 this case, there is no modication - just a parmlib member.  It's
 simply a preference to have one less usermod as opposed to the
 right way.  Not much different than using any PARMLIB member that
 replaces assembled options. For example, SDSF parms, LE parms in
 z/OS 1.7, etc.

 Regards,

 Mark

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Re: GRS ring vs star mode

2005-11-04 Thread ibm-main
How about some-one going the otherway - more improbable  ???.
Multi-site STAR about to be broken down to a (single-CEC) ring of
monoplexes.
True ...

I did some numbers on the environment - CATALOG is a *BIG* contributor to
GRS traffic.
Historically, this customer has some catalogs on mixed volumes, and so
converts IGGV2.
Placing a few usercats on their own volumes and allowing the RESERVE to
stand more than halved the GRS traffic.
Doing likewise to the (shared) MCAT will halve the remainder - at least. You
might all be surprised how much action your mcat(s) attract.

Things can be done in preparation, but the change to ring mode instills
dread.

Shane ...

From: Skip Robinson

 My story is improbable but true. We have four full function parallel
 sysplexes in our enterprise. Of these four, three were converted to star
 mode some time ago. The fourth had at most two members, one of which was
 very lightly used. So lightly used, in fact, that we stopped running it
 altogether; the LPAR has not even been activated for some time. Conversion
 from ring to star mode hardly seemed worth the trouble.
 ...
 Conclusion: even with *one* member, star mode rules.

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Re: Rexx compiler runtime question

2005-11-04 Thread Ed Gould

On Nov 4, 2005, at 7:35 PM, Skip Robinson wrote:

As for the other examples (SDSF parms, LE parms), we install those  
with

SMPE usermods also. Quick and dirty is high on speed, low on hygiene.
Cleaner may mean quicker down the long road.

.SNIP---


SKIP,

JUST MAYBE ONE OF THESE DAYS THE LE PEOPLE WILL (sorry about the  
caps) get their act together. Meanwhile this is a good example of IBM  
not setting a product up that so you MUST have a usermod.


They have added/changed/deleted options at least 6-8 times (that I  
can remember of). I thought that the SERVPAC concept was to get rid  
(or at least miniumize) these usermods. Who know the SERVPAC might  
have enough pull to stop this insanity.


Ed
 


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Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI and GRS

2005-11-04 Thread Scott Fagen
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:01:39 +1000, ibm-main [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is absolutely nothing wrong, incorrect, improper, or unexpected
about
 any system space (GRS) using as much memory above 2G as it wants,
provided
 that it has documented that use so that customers can properly plan.
Note
 that I am differentiating GRS from DB2 in this regard.

Hey Scott, are you ears burning mate         ;-)

Not particularly...

GRS' use of above the bar storage is closely managed and is, intentionally,
not left to the user to manage.  GRS gets its memory objects at system
initialization time and NEVER gets any more.  If these memory objects
cannot be obtained, the system will not come up.

The above the bar storage is mostly guard area to surround 2GB ranges that
map to areas used for extensions to GRS control blocks, required to enable
the system support to the greater number of concurrent ENQs that MIP LPARs
request at z/OS 1.6 and up.  See
http://shareew.prod.web.sba.com/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_Bos
ton/s2884SFa.pdf (watch the wrap) see charts 57-63.

Any frame in these above the bar areas that is not populated is released
from GRS' working set, minimizing the impact to the system.  If you have
few outstanding ENQs, the amount of data 'up there' is minimal.

An alternative to this approach would have been to use dataspaces in the
same way.  Would there have been the same hue and cry if we had added 4
additional dataspaces, rather than 8GB (usable) of 64-bit memory objects?

Scott Fagen
z/OS Core Technology Design
IBM Poughkeepsie

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Re: IEFACTRT modifications

2005-11-04 Thread Greg Price
IEFACTRT can use a system routine (IEFYS?) - usually link edited
in - to write to the messages data set (where the COND CODE is)
without having to worry about WTO routing codes and SYSLOG
or console effects.  That's what most flower boxes use.

Many places use IEFACTRT to issue WTO messages reporting the
step completion results for job log and/or syslog reference.

After the demise of the I/O count zap usermod I resorted to using
IEFU83 to trap SMF type 14/15/64 records to report EXCP counts
against each data set.  Without the ability to use IEFYS in this exit
I had to use WTO with ROUTCDE=11 to get the info to the messages
data set.

I did not want all batch data set activity logged to the syslog, or
even reported in the job's own job log.

Fortunately, though IBM taketh away it also giveth.  OCO prevented (for
practical purposes) an updated I/O count zap hack but MPF had been
introduced.

So, a few simple bit switching MPF exits allowed the messages issued by
my IEFU83 to show up in the messages data set without clogging up
the job log, syslog, or console(s).  The same could be done for any
WTO messages from anywhere (given known message ids).

The messages also go to the Master Trace Table if that is a consideration
for anyone.  It wasn't for me.  In fact it provided a nice place for me to
observe how many messages my exit was producing system-wide.

Cheers,
Greg

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Re: Mainframe/PC file management

2005-11-04 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
For some file types you can use SAMBA on z/OS to make it a file sharing 
server or client.


John Cloughly wrote:
I would like to move multiple files/directories on the PC to and from the 
mainframe.  Synchronization would be fantastic, but I'd consider that a 
miracle.  Has anyone written an article on managing files across the 
PC/Mainframe platforms?  I'm familiar with XMIT and FTP but I'm looking for 
an article that reviews the methodology closer, giving a more holistic 
approach.


Tanks, more tanks.

And on the 8th day God said: Ok Murphy, you take over.


John Cloughly
Sterling Impact, Inc.




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