Google Analytics IBM MIPS

2006-06-22 Thread Phil Payne
If you have a web site and you're not using Google Analytics, I suggest you 
evaluate it.

My sites are collecting data now.  Factiod - 63 people downloaded one or more 
of the MIPS
tables on 21 June 2006 UTC.

I wouldn't have expected anything like so many.  I think I might make the 
disclaimer into a
separate page so I can see how many actually read it.

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Re: RACF Query

2006-06-22 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Crispin,

Run the following command to see what profile is protecting creation of
aliases and who has access to it.

RLIST FACILITY STGADMIN.IGG.DEFDEL.UALIAS ALL

This may answer your question.

Regards, Bob


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-Original Message-
Date:Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:46:37 +0100
From:Crispin Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: No subject given

I have a RACF profile defined for the master catalog CATALOG.Z17.MASTER
which has a UACC of READ with group TSG in the access list with ALTER. The
profile is owned by group TSG. The profile is defined as Generic although it
is the fully qualified name. Group SYS1 is not mentioned at all in the
profile.



It seems however that any userid that is in group SYS1 can still UPDATE the
master catalog. For example a DEFINE ALIAS works from any userid or task
associated with a group SYS1 user. Is this set up as a standard? I can't
find anything obvious in the documentation.



Thanks







Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4

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OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Phil Payne
Sorry to waste people's time - but I can't think how to fix this one any other 
way.

I recently got a mailing list bounce from J B Hunt - probable junk mail.  It 
wasn't, so I
emailed the address given on the bounce message - and for my trouble got a 550 
disallowed on
the email.  Trivial so far - they don't deserve my attention.

Except that their system is in some sort of loop and periodically sends me 
copies of the first
bounce message.

So if someone at J B Hunt - or someone who has a valid email address for 
someone there - reads
this, PLEASE ask their postmaster to fix this.

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Fetching COBOL from C gives U4091

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Knigge

All,

in a multithreaded C-Application I need to run a COBOL-Prog. I use the 
C-Function fetch() to get an Entry-Point and jump into it. This works 
fine for the first time, but when I fetch the module again and jump into 
it I get an ABEND U4091 Reason 0C. This also happens in a single 
threaded application.


Anyone got this too and has a solution?


Thanks,
Michael

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Re: Any suggested classes in TLS/SSL implementation?

2006-06-22 Thread Jay Howard
Looking for some formal IBM training in setting up a TLS/SSL certificate
based solution. The ideal course would include the whole banana from
mechanics to management. 

A troll through IBM TEACH cam up empty, most likely due to poor search
arguments. 

Hal, 

I was looking for the some training and spoke to several people in IBM 
education. I was told that it is not covered in any of their classes. 

This was last year, maybe it has been added by now. 

Jay 

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CKBR Instances on Mainframe MQ/CICS Bridge

2006-06-22 Thread Peter Farrell
I am running the MQ CICS DPL Bridge on a mainframe. This bridge connects my 
MQSeries 5.3.1 mainframe queue manager to a CICS 2.3 region. The bridge 
uses a CICS transaction CKBR to read the messages from the Bridge queue and 
place them into CICS for processing. 
Sometimes I get queueing occurring on this queue. It seems that CICS isn't 
able to read the messages fast enough at peak times. I was wondering if it 
is possible to have more than one instance of the CKBR transaction in a 
single CICS region, to get this queue read faster. 
Does anyone know ?

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Re: Availability of OS/VS RPG II 5740-RG1

2006-06-22 Thread John Eells
I think it's much easier to look the ordering checklists to see 
whether products they want are still orderable than to go through 
all the announcements.  They're available at:


http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/software/swinfo/os390.html

On the ServerPac and CBPDO checklists, you'll find:

Name  V RR.MM Order#   ServerPac/
   CBPDO
   Feature Code

OS/VS RPG II Compiler V1  1 01.00 5740-RG1  5882

Having said that, the ordering checklists only tell you what is 
available now, not when or whether they will be withdrawn.  For 
that information, you do have to look at the announcement letters 
or the Support Lifecycle page (for those products listed there).


Timothy Sipples wrote:



snip
Really the only way to verify the above on ibm.com (that I know of) is to 
look at http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi (the announcement letters) and do an 
Advanced Search on the product number (5740-RG1), entire date range. 
You'll see a reference (only) to the original announcement (it's from long 
ago, so the original 1981 announcement letter didn't make it into the Web 
database), and you won't see anything withdrawn (except the aforementioned 
older media types). Since it's kind of obscure it never got its own 
ibm.com page, but it's still available.

snip

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Re: Fetching COBOL from C gives U4091

2006-06-22 Thread Steve Comstock

Michael Knigge wrote:

All,

in a multithreaded C-Application I need to run a COBOL-Prog. I use the 
C-Function fetch() to get an Entry-Point and jump into it. This works 
fine for the first time, but when I fetch the module again and jump into 
it I get an ABEND U4091 Reason 0C. This also happens in a single 
threaded application.




Why are you fetching the routine more than once? Fetch
it once and it stays there until the process ends. If
you are doing what you say, I would start by only
fetch()-ing one time.


Is the COBOL program compiled with THREAD? In your
multi-threaded application you will need this. [It
can still run in non-threaded apps, although it will
be slower.]

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: SDSF poor performance when using SB or SE on a running job's output

2006-06-22 Thread Tom Harper
Fred,

I have noticed the same issue, and it appears that SDSF is executing
code that runs with the same dispatching priority as the address space
it is querying.

In a CPU-constrained environment, I can re-create this by browsing a
low-priority running job's output, and the response is poor. I can then
change the dispatching priority of the same job and the response is
excellent. I can then reverse the priority and it reverts back.

You have the source of SDSF and can investigate why if you need
additional information.

Tom 

-Original Message-
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Subject: SDSF poor performance when using SB or SE on a running job's
output

Have any of you noticed poor performance in SDSF when you use the SB or
SE 
action characters to view a running job's output? 

When I do a FIND in a job with only 666 lines, it takes at least 6
seconds 
to respond. Compare that with subsecond response for the same FIND
command 
when using the S action character to view the same output. If you are 
looking at a job with a significant number of lines of output, you may
as 
well come back after lunch! The initial entry to view the job's output 
with SB or SE is also very slow.

This poor performance only occurs when viewing the output from a job
that 
is running. For jobs that have ended, performance is normal.

We see this on both z/OS 1.4 and 1.7. It doesn't make any difference 
whether we look at job output from the DA panel or the ST panel.

Regards,
Fred Schmidt

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread J R

There once was a person named Rishi,
Who posted a message most fishy.
For pluralizing JCL,
He should rot in hell,
Though, now commonplace, it's cliche.

Real mainframers don't pluralize JCL!

_
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Re: SDSF poor performance when using SB or SE on a running job's output

2006-06-22 Thread Brian Peterson
The way I've always understood this is that SDSF schedules an SRB into the 
target address space to get spool data in buffers.

The difference between S (SDSF Browse) and the SB/SE (ISPF 
Browse/Edit) line commands is that with the latter commands, all the data 
is probably fetched up front.  With S, SDSF gets the data only when you 
need it, as you need it.  If you never scroll down to the bottom of the 
data, SDSF never needs to get the data from the target address space.

Further, the SRB that SDSF schedules to the target address space does not 
force the job to swap in.  This means that if the low priority job happens 
to be swapped out, the SRB won't run.  SDSF designers don't want to give a 
low priority job a benefit (forcing the system to swap it in) just to 
view the in-memory spool data.

Finall, I have always understood that the SRB times out after 10 
seconds.  Thus, the delay.  If the job is swapped in, the SRB will 
run instantly, but if swapped out, the SRB sits and waits until it times 
out.

Perhaps the main difference here is that when you issue a FIND command with 
SDSF Browse, SDSF simply skips the SRB, so you're never subject to the 10 
second timeout.

The above is basically my understanding just by thinking about how this 
probably works.  Someone who actually knows might chime in with a better 
answer.

Brian

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:49:48 +0930, Fred Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Have any of you noticed poor performance in SDSF when you use the SB or SE
action characters to view a running job's output?

When I do a FIND in a job with only 666 lines, it takes at least 6 seconds
to respond. Compare that with subsecond response for the same FIND command
when using the S action character to view the same output. If you are
looking at a job with a significant number of lines of output, you may as
well come back after lunch! The initial entry to view the job's output
with SB or SE is also very slow.

This poor performance only occurs when viewing the output from a job that
is running. For jobs that have ended, performance is normal.

We see this on both z/OS 1.4 and 1.7. It doesn't make any difference
whether we look at job output from the DA panel or the ST panel.

Regards,
Fred Schmidt

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Old Hashing Routine

2006-06-22 Thread Stephen M. Wiegand
My client has instructed me to modify some modules so that they run 
above the line.  This was a no brainer until I ran across a call to 
module BQKDPRS in several of the modules.  This is an old (1970's) 
hashing routine for encrypting and decrypting a pin 
number.  Naturally the client only has the object code and, since it 
is so old, it can only run below the line.  So my questions are:


1.  Is there another routine that does the same thing as BQKDPRS but 
can run above the line?


2.  If there isn't, will specifying DATA(31) for the compile options 
of the Cobol programs calling BQKDPRS and Binder options of 
Amode(31), Rmode(Any) be enough to satisfy my client's requirements?


Thanks.

Steve Wiegand

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Re: OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread SArnett
Odds are that someone that has you, and the recipient, in their e-mail 
list has a virus on their computer.  I get these occasionally for 
twomenandatruck, out of Houston.  The mail isn't in response to one of 
your old e-mails, it is someone spuffing(?) your e-mail address 
continuing to send the virus out.


Phil Payne wrote:


Sorry to waste people's time - but I can't think how to fix this one any other 
way.

I recently got a mailing list bounce from J B Hunt - probable junk mail.  It 
wasn't, so I
emailed the address given on the bounce message - and for my trouble got a 550 
disallowed on
the email.  Trivial so far - they don't deserve my attention.

Except that their system is in some sort of loop and periodically sends me 
copies of the first
bounce message.

So if someone at J B Hunt - or someone who has a valid email address for 
someone there - reads
this, PLEASE ask their postmaster to fix this.

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Re: OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/22/2006 9:39:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Odds are  that someone that has you, and the recipient, in their e-mail 
list has a  virus on their computer.  I get these occasionally for  




I forwarded it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
didn't  bounce, but haven't heard anything back either.

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Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-22 Thread Tony Harminc
Jay Maynard wrote:

  to promote Progress of Science and useful Arts,
  by securing for limited Times to Authors and
  Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective
  Writings and Discoveries
  
  The *objective* was to foster innovation, NOT to reward people.
 
 Innovation is the objective. Reward is the mechanism. Without 
 the mechanism, the objective will not be achieved.

That's quite possible, though I doubt very much that there is any actual
evidence for this frequent claim. Were Leonardo da Vinci or J.S. Bach or
countless other creators deterred by the lack of copyrights and patents? And
even if the claim is true, the current system of exclusive rights is far
from being the only possible mechanism.

Tony H.

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Re: OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Finnell wrote:

I forwarded it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
didn't  bounce, but haven't heard anything back either.

NO! Don't reply to them. Now you probably signalled them that your mail 
address is live and active.

These 'bouncing' mails are actually bait to confirm e-mail addresses to be 
used in future spam/phishing/spear phishing/scam e-mails.

Drop that senders/baiters in a kill file for immediate delete.

Groete / Greetings

Elardus Engelbrecht
South Africa

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Re: Old Hashing Routine

2006-06-22 Thread Charles Mills
 will ... be enough to satisfy my client's requirements?

Hard to say from this distance.

I can tell you that

- almost no non-trivial older program ever becomes purely 31-bit. Your
client may be happy if your result is mostly 31-bit or as 31-bit as
reasonably possible.
- I think it's worth a shot to see if it will run 31-bit, either both A  R
= 31, or just A=31, R=24. Sometimes you win these things on blind luck.
There is nothing about an older program that necessarily means it will not
run AMODE 31.

Charles



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Subject: Old Hashing Routine


My client has instructed me to modify some modules so that they run 
above the line.  This was a no brainer until I ran across a call to 
module BQKDPRS in several of the modules.  This is an old (1970's) 
hashing routine for encrypting and decrypting a pin 
number.  Naturally the client only has the object code and, since it 
is so old, it can only run below the line.  So my questions are:

1.  Is there another routine that does the same thing as BQKDPRS but 
can run above the line?

2.  If there isn't, will specifying DATA(31) for the compile options 
of the Cobol programs calling BQKDPRS and Binder options of 
Amode(31), Rmode(Any) be enough to satisfy my client's requirements?

Thanks.

Steve Wiegand

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SSL/TLS Woes FTP

2006-06-22 Thread Chase, John
NOTE:  X-posted to MVS-OE and IBM-MAIN

Hi, All,

Trying to setup z/OS 1.5 FTP client-side to use SSL/TLS but can't seem
to find where/how to specify keyring database password (this is on the
sandbox system; when/if we go live we'll use RACF keyring).  This is
the message that Trace writes:

FC0373 ftpAuth: TLS init failed with rc = 201 (No key database password
supplied)

Where do I need to look to read instructions for specifying the key
database password in batch JCL for running FTP?

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: Old Hashing Routine

2006-06-22 Thread Jack Kelly
just a thought

1. there are numerous callable routines in icsf to (de)encrypt/hash 
anything, esp pin's, ie the finical services suite. even smp is into icsf 
hashing and w/ 1.7 you don't even need to start up icsf, i've heard
2. leave the hash routine as a separate callable load module in 24b and 
don't link it with the other lmod.

Jack Kelly
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Re: Old Hashing Routine

2006-06-22 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Charles Mills wrote:
There is nothing about an older program that necessarily means it will 
not
run AMODE 31.

A common practice used by older programs is using LA to clear the how 
order byte, which is a problem if it's a 31-bit address.

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Re: Old Hashing Routine

2006-06-22 Thread Charles Mills
Depending on what the purpose of the clear is. Sometimes it was done just to
make sure a count was not negative, or to get rid of an x'80' call list
delimiter, in which case you're okay. My point is that sure, there a
thousand reasons why it might not work, but no inherent reason not to give
it a try. There's no guarantee that it WON'T work.

Charles



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Charles Mills wrote:
There is nothing about an older program that necessarily means it will 
not
run AMODE 31.

A common practice used by older programs is using LA to clear the how 
order byte, which is a problem if it's a 31-bit address.

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Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

2006-06-22 Thread Jack Kelly
it's in ftpdata, dbase is  KEYRING /u/xx/tn32v1r2.kdb
and the password is in the stash file /u/xx/tn32v1r2.sth

Jack Kelly
LA Systems @ US Courts
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Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

2006-06-22 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jack Kelly
 
 it's in ftpdata, dbase is  KEYRING /u/xx/tn32v1r2.kdb
 and the password is in the stash file /u/xx/tn32v1r2.sth

Duh

Thanks,

-jc-

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USS Performance Data

2006-06-22 Thread Betsy Jeffery
I'm looking for anyone's pgms (SAS, ASSEM, REXX, Whatever) to can format 
the USS information on the SMF30, 42,  92 records before I reinvent the 
wheel.  We have MXG but haven't located anyting canned thus far.
Thanks in Advance

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Chris Mason
J R,

This is a language problem. Unfortunately it is quite common in French, for
example, to translate from a French plural word to what should be, in
English, a collective noun which is only ever used in the singular. Thus,
for example, logiciels should translate to software but francophones
very often/nearly always come up with softwares because logiciels is
plural. I've just now seen another post in another list where the word
advices appeared, presumably the poster had the word conseils in mind.

Why don't the French use software and computer (ordinateur[1]) just
like everybody else? Blame l'Académie française[2]

[1] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinateur
[2] http://www.academie-francaise.fr/

Incidentally, a limerick should sound more like the following which I
composed in an inspirational minute reflecting on a real event which had
just taken place - with a couple of exaggerations fully compatible with
poetic licence g:

There was a young fellow called Jolly,
Who thought drink an extravagant folly,
'Till we gave him seven
With gin in his lemon
And now he's quite tipsy, by golly!

Chris Mason

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 There once was a person named Rishi,
 Who posted a message most fishy.
 For pluralizing JCL,
 He should rot in hell,
 Though, now commonplace, it's cliche.

 Real mainframers don't pluralize JCL!

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Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

2006-06-22 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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If you are using certificates under ACF2 or RACF, that will not be a
file.  In ACF2 speak, it is the Ringname.  In RACF it is the RING.

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 it's in ftpdata, dbase is  KEYRING /u/xx/tn32v1r2.kdb
 and the password is in the stash file /u/xx/tn32v1r2.sth

Duh

Thanks,

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Re: USS Performance Data

2006-06-22 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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For MXG, TYPS92 formats the type 92 records. 

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I'm looking for anyone's pgms (SAS, ASSEM, REXX, Whatever) to can format

the USS information on the SMF30, 42,  92 records before I reinvent the

wheel.  We have MXG but haven't located anyting canned thus far.
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Re: Old Hashing Routine

2006-06-22 Thread Thomas Kern
You might take a look at the HASHWF package on the IBM z/VM Downloads website:

HASHWF  2000-01-12 A General HASH function (S/370 and other systems) 

The hashing code is supplied in Assembler source code. I do not know if it is
really capable of running above the line, but the Rexx function included in the
package works well.

/Tom Kern

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 above the line.  This was a no brainer until I ran across a call to 
 module BQKDPRS in several of the modules.  This is an old (1970's) 
 hashing routine for encrypting and decrypting a pin 
 number.  Naturally the client only has the object code and, since it 
 is so old, it can only run below the line.  So my questions are:
 
 1.  Is there another routine that does the same thing as BQKDPRS but 
 can run above the line?
 
 2.  If there isn't, will specifying DATA(31) for the compile options 
 of the Cobol programs calling BQKDPRS and Binder options of 
 Amode(31), Rmode(Any) be enough to satisfy my client's requirements?
 
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Re: Old Hashing Routine

2006-06-22 Thread john gilmore
If you can use a 'new fangled' program object instead of a load module as 
your executable, then RMODE(SPLIT) provides a nice resolution of such 
problems as you describe: AMODE(24) for a few intractable, difficult to 
convert routines and RMODE(31) for all the rest.


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Re: SDSF poor performance when using SB or SE on a running job's output

2006-06-22 Thread Edward Jaffe

Brian Peterson wrote:
The way I've always understood this is that SDSF schedules an SRB into the 
target address space to get spool data in buffers.
  


Not in any supported release. (Specifically, not since z/OS 1.2.)

The difference between S (SDSF Browse) and the SB/SE (ISPF 
Browse/Edit) line commands is that with the latter commands, all the data 
is probably fetched up front.  With S, SDSF gets the data only when you 
need it, as you need it.  If you never scroll down to the bottom of the 
data, SDSF never needs to get the data from the target address space.


Further, the SRB that SDSF schedules to the target address space does not 
force the job to swap in.  This means that if the low priority job happens 
to be swapped out, the SRB won't run.  SDSF designers don't want to give a 
low priority job a benefit (forcing the system to swap it in) just to 
view the in-memory spool data.
  


SDSF designers really have nothing at all to do with this. In z/OS 1.4 
and z/OS 1.7 (the environments described by the OP), a JES2 service is 
employed to read the outstanding spool buffers from an executing job. 
That JES2 service schedules a preemptable SRB into the subject job's 
address space. (You may wish to review APAR OA04704 for some history of 
and at least one complaint about the behavior of this JES2 service.) 
Dispatching the SRB will cause a swap-in of the target address space if 
it is swapped out.


Finally, I have always understood that the SRB times out after 10 
seconds.  Thus, the delay.  If the job is swapped in, the SRB will 
run instantly, but if swapped out, the SRB sits and waits until it times 
out.
  


I've never heard of such a time-out. However, if it exists, it will 
most-likely be implemented inside the JES2 service and not directly by 
its callers.


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Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

2006-06-22 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gray, Larry - Larry A
 
 If you are using certificates under ACF2 or RACF, that will 
 not be a file.  In ACF2 speak, it is the Ringname.  In RACF 
 it is the RING.

That will come later.  Right now I have a connection established (after
having created the requisite stash file for the key database), and the
server apparently is waiting for the client (z/OS) to start negotiation
of the security stuff.  The batch job is just sitting there, and the
last message from the server is:

234 SSL enabled and waiting for negotiation

It's been that way for a few minutes now, and the sandbox is not being
starved for CPU

From my reading of the Appendix in the IP Configuration Guide (or
Reference; I forget) manual, what's supposed to happen at this point is
that the server sends its certificate, and my client is supposed to ask
whether to accept the (presently unknown) certificate; yet that does not
appear to be happening.  The FTP job is not looping, either.

This is initial experimentation, with the only additions to FTPDATA
being the absolute minimum KEYRING keyfilename and SECURE_MECHANISM
TLS statements; everything else relating to secure FTP is allowed to
default. 

So far, so BAD.

-jc-

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Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

2006-06-22 Thread Richard Pinion
One thing to consider, talk to your network support to make sure they are not 
blocking anything, ports/IP addresses etc.. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/22/2006 12:55 PM 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gray, Larry - Larry A
 
 If you are using certificates under ACF2 or RACF, that will 
 not be a file.  In ACF2 speak, it is the Ringname.  In RACF 
 it is the RING.

That will come later.  Right now I have a connection established (after
having created the requisite stash file for the key database), and the
server apparently is waiting for the client (z/OS) to start negotiation
of the security stuff.  The batch job is just sitting there, and the
last message from the server is:

234 SSL enabled and waiting for negotiation

It's been that way for a few minutes now, and the sandbox is not being
starved for CPU

From my reading of the Appendix in the IP Configuration Guide (or
Reference; I forget) manual, what's supposed to happen at this point is
that the server sends its certificate, and my client is supposed to ask
whether to accept the (presently unknown) certificate; yet that does not
appear to be happening.  The FTP job is not looping, either.

This is initial experimentation, with the only additions to FTPDATA
being the absolute minimum KEYRING keyfilename and SECURE_MECHANISM
TLS statements; everything else relating to secure FTP is allowed to
default. 

So far, so BAD.

-jc-

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Re: Old Hashing Routine

2006-06-22 Thread Charles Mills
AMODE(24) in the below should read RMODE(24), right?

Also, some routines won't run AMODE(31), even if they are RMODE(24).
Programs with tables with words of the format X'flags',AL3(data) for
example, if they load the word into a register and then use the contents of
the register as an address.

However, you can solve that by front-ending the routine with a stub that
goes AMODE(31) to (24) before the call and (24) to (31) on the way back out
- assuming of course that the passed parameters are below the line. What a
pain! Was it Gene Amdahl who said the biggest mistake of the 360
architecture was the 24-bit addresses?

Charles



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If you can use a 'new fangled' program object instead of a load module as 
your executable, then RMODE(SPLIT) provides a nice resolution of such 
problems as you describe: AMODE(24) for a few intractable, difficult to 
convert routines and RMODE(31) for all the rest.

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:35:29 +0200, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is a language problem. Unfortunately it is quite common in French, for
example, to translate from a French plural word to what should be, in
English, a collective noun which is only ever used in the singular. Thus,
for example, logiciels should translate to software but francophones
very often/nearly always come up with softwares because logiciels is
plural. I've just now seen another post in another list where the word
advices appeared, presumably the poster had the word conseils in mind.

Yeah 
We french people ( some other foreigners as well) are often using a strange
grammar . agreed . and confusing it . agreed !
But then :
logiciel and software are not necessarily the same thing . 
It is a subtility ( or a pain  :-)) ) in the french language  
un logiciel means a software PRODUCT 
le logiciel means software 
les logiciels means 'software products
So as you can see,if it is plural ,we are definitely talking about software
products .
If it is singular and it is behind le ( The ) it becomes  software .
And if it is singular with the number 1 in front it becomes again a software
product .( right ,because the number could be different than zero )
Not sure i make myself clear but i could explain it in french :-))
And in french i would tell you that for me a software product is not
necessarily software  big grin
Bruno
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Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

2006-06-22 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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You might want to put DEBUG SEC CMD SOC(3) FLO in the SYSFTPD.  When I
was having issues, this is what support gave me to help debug the
problem.  Also, you can add PARM=('ENVAR(GSK_TRACE=0X)/-r tls') to
turn on GSK tracing.  The part I had the most trouble with was getting a
copy of the server's certificate connected to my keyring.  

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gray, Larry - Larry A
 
 If you are using certificates under ACF2 or RACF, that will 
 not be a file.  In ACF2 speak, it is the Ringname.  In RACF 
 it is the RING.

That will come later.  Right now I have a connection established (after
having created the requisite stash file for the key database), and the
server apparently is waiting for the client (z/OS) to start negotiation
of the security stuff.  The batch job is just sitting there, and the
last message from the server is:

234 SSL enabled and waiting for negotiation

It's been that way for a few minutes now, and the sandbox is not being
starved for CPU

From my reading of the Appendix in the IP Configuration Guide (or
Reference; I forget) manual, what's supposed to happen at this point is
that the server sends its certificate, and my client is supposed to ask
whether to accept the (presently unknown) certificate; yet that does not
appear to be happening.  The FTP job is not looping, either.

This is initial experimentation, with the only additions to FTPDATA
being the absolute minimum KEYRING keyfilename and SECURE_MECHANISM
TLS statements; everything else relating to secure FTP is allowed to
default. 

So far, so BAD.

-jc-

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread J R

Yes, I'm familiar with the translation problem;
I've come to terms with that.

What bothers me more are the PFCSK types
and the *IX émigrés who think of a job as a JCL
and, therefore, several jobs as JCLs.

In the OP's limerick, he referred to writing jcls
which really goes against the grain.

(BTW, I knew my limerick wasn't very good
but it was the best I could come up with.)



From: Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:35:29 +0200

J R,

This is a language problem. Unfortunately it is quite common in French, for
example, to translate from a French plural word to what should be, in
English, a collective noun which is only ever used in the singular. Thus,
for example, logiciels should translate to software but francophones
very often/nearly always come up with softwares because logiciels is
plural. I've just now seen another post in another list where the word
advices appeared, presumably the poster had the word conseils in mind.

Why don't the French use software and computer (ordinateur[1]) just
like everybody else? Blame l'Académie française[2]

[1] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinateur
[2] http://www.academie-francaise.fr/

Incidentally, a limerick should sound more like the following which I
composed in an inspirational minute reflecting on a real event which had
just taken place - with a couple of exaggerations fully compatible with
poetic licence g:

There was a young fellow called Jolly,
Who thought drink an extravagant folly,
'Till we gave him seven
With gin in his lemon
And now he's quite tipsy, by golly!

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Re: OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld

OK.  What is spear phishing?  I've never heard that term before.

Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee Wisconsin
414-475-7434

- Original Message - 
From: Elardus Engelbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

These 'bouncing' mails are actually bait to confirm e-mail addresses to be
used in future spam/phishing/spear phishing/scam e-mails.

Drop that senders/baiters in a kill file for immediate delete.

Groete / Greetings

Elardus Engelbrecht
South Africa 


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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
You shouldn't have to explainYou are speaking a foreign language.
Not many Americans could even begin to translate into a language other
than English. It always amazes me how so many Europeans can speak so
many different languages.

(rien, rien, rien)


Jon L. Veilleux
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bruno Sugliani
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe Limericks...

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:35:29 +0200, Chris Mason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is a language problem. Unfortunately it is quite common in French,

for example, to translate from a French plural word to what should be, 
in English, a collective noun which is only ever used in the singular. 
Thus, for example, logiciels should translate to software but 
francophones very often/nearly always come up with softwares because 
logiciels is plural. I've just now seen another post in another list 
where the word advices appeared, presumably the poster had the word
conseils in mind.

Yeah
We french people ( some other foreigners as well) are often using a
strange grammar . agreed . and confusing it . agreed !
But then :
logiciel and software are not necessarily the same thing . 
It is a subtility ( or a pain  :-)) ) in the french language un logiciel
means a software PRODUCT 
le logiciel means software 
les logiciels means 'software products
So as you can see,if it is plural ,we are definitely talking about
software products .
If it is singular and it is behind le ( The ) it becomes  software .
And if it is singular with the number 1 in front it becomes again a
software product .( right ,because the number could be different than
zero ) Not sure i make myself clear but i could explain it in french
:-)) And in french i would tell you that for me a software product is
not necessarily software  big grin Bruno
Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr
   

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Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

2006-06-22 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richard Pinion
 
 One thing to consider, talk to your network support to make 
 sure they are not blocking anything, ports/IP addresses etc.. 

Done.

-jc-

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Conoles

2006-06-22 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS V1R4 and currently configuring V1R7. What is a SMCS. I am
sure it is a console, but what is the difference between a MCS and a
SMCS? Any help would be appreciated. 
 
Thank You

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Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

2006-06-22 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gray, Larry - Larry A
 
 
 You might want to put DEBUG SEC CMD SOC(3) FLO in the 
 SYSFTPD.  When I was having issues, this is what support gave 
 me to help debug the problem. 

Well, I guess this qualifies as progress:

234 SSL enabled and waiting for negotiation
FC0681 authServer: secure_socket_open()
FC0748 authServer: secure_socket_init()
 BOTTOM OF DATA

Two new messages before siesta

 Also, you can add 
 PARM=('ENVAR(GSK_TRACE=0X)/-r tls') to turn on GSK 
 tracing. 

Where does that trace get written?

 The part I had the most trouble with was getting a 
 copy of the server's certificate connected to my keyring.

Oh, joy.  I don't even have a copy of their cert yet

And I'm ass.u.me-ing that I don't need GSKSRVR running to capture the
trace

-jc-

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Re: OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Eric N. Bielefeld wrote:
OK.  What is spear phishing?  I've never heard that term before.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/email/spear_phishing.mspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear_phishing

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1902896,00.asp

http://news.millersmiles.co.uk/article/0056

http://www.detnews.com/2005/technology/0510/27/A14-362453.htm

etc...

Use Google to search the web with these word 'phishing' and again 
with 'spear phishing'.

Groete / Greetings

Elardus Engelbrecht
South Africa

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Re: Conoles

2006-06-22 Thread Edward Jaffe

Mark Steely wrote:

We are z/OS V1R4 and currently configuring V1R7. What is a SMCS. I am
sure it is a console, but what is the difference between a MCS and a
SMCS? Any help would be appreciated. 
  


http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2g360/1.2.1 
says,  SMCS consoles are devices that do not have to be locally 
attached to an MVS system and provide the basic communication between 
operators and MVS. SMCS consoles use z/OS Communications Server to 
provide communication between operators and MVS instead of direct I/O to 
the console device. SMCS consoles are available as of z/OS V1R1.


I recommend you search the above book for the string 'SMCS' and read 
what you find...


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Re: Consoles

2006-06-22 Thread Steve Comstock

[all I did was change the subject matter to be spelled correctly.]

Edward Jaffe wrote:

Mark Steely wrote:


We are z/OS V1R4 and currently configuring V1R7. What is a SMCS. I am
sure it is a console, but what is the difference between a MCS and a
SMCS? Any help would be appreciated.   



http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2g360/1.2.1 
says,  SMCS consoles are devices that do not have to be locally 
attached to an MVS system and provide the basic communication between 
operators and MVS. SMCS consoles use z/OS Communications Server to 
provide communication between operators and MVS instead of direct I/O to 
the console device. SMCS consoles are available as of z/OS V1R1.


I recommend you search the above book for the string 'SMCS' and read 
what you find...




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Re: OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Sorry, but I forgot to mention IBM's page with 427 results...

http://www.ibm.com/Search/?q=spear+phishingv=14lang=enamp;cc=usen=utf

Groete / Greetings

Elardus Engelbrecht
South Africa

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Re: OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Steve Arnett
Except that he said that he forwarded it...not replied to it...and 
jbhunt.com is a valid company dns entry for the J. B. Hunt trucking firm.


Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:


Ed Finnell wrote:

 


I forwarded it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
   


didn't  bounce, but haven't heard anything back either.

NO! Don't reply to them. Now you probably signalled them that your mail 
address is live and active.


These 'bouncing' mails are actually bait to confirm e-mail addresses to be 
used in future spam/phishing/spear phishing/scam e-mails.


Drop that senders/baiters in a kill file for immediate delete.

Groete / Greetings

Elardus Engelbrecht
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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Liliane L. Clever
Very well said indeed.  And by the way, I dare any of the so-called-real 
american sysprogs on this list to say in french, or any other language 
besides english, what Bruno said so eloquently.


Liliane


At 01:21 PM 6/22/2006, Bruno Sugliani wrote:

Yeah
We french people ( some other foreigners as well) are often using a strange
grammar . agreed . and confusing it . agreed !
But then :
logiciel and software are not necessarily the same thing .
It is a subtility ( or a pain  :-)) ) in the french language
un logiciel means a software PRODUCT
le logiciel means software
les logiciels means 'software products
So as you can see,if it is plural ,we are definitely talking about software
products .
If it is singular and it is behind le ( The ) it becomes  software .
And if it is singular with the number 1 in front it becomes again a software
product .( right ,because the number could be different than zero )
Not sure i make myself clear but i could explain it in french :-))
And in french i would tell you that for me a software product is not
necessarily software  big grin
Bruno
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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Lily said:
Very well said indeed.  And by the way, I dare any of the so-called-real 
american sysprogs on this list to say in french, or any other language 
besides english, what Bruno said so eloquently.

Would it make you happy if we beat up Bruno in the school yard?  Grow up 
Lily.

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread J R

I apologize if I offended any person for whom English
is not their first language.  It was certainly not my
intention to do that.

My beef is with the nouveau-mainframers who insist
on using wintel and unix terminology in place of our
well-established vernacular.



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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:31:25 -0400

Very well said indeed.  And by the way, I dare any of the so-called-real 
american sysprogs on this list to say in french, or any other language 
besides english, what Bruno said so eloquently.


Liliane


At 01:21 PM 6/22/2006, Bruno Sugliani wrote:

Yeah
We french people ( some other foreigners as well) are often using a 
strange

grammar . agreed . and confusing it . agreed !
But then :
logiciel and software are not necessarily the same thing .
It is a subtility ( or a pain  :-)) ) in the french language
un logiciel means a software PRODUCT
le logiciel means software
les logiciels means 'software products
So as you can see,if it is plural ,we are definitely talking about 
software

products .
If it is singular and it is behind le ( The ) it becomes  software .
And if it is singular with the number 1 in front it becomes again a 
software

product .( right ,because the number could be different than zero )
Not sure i make myself clear but i could explain it in french :-))
And in french i would tell you that for me a software product is not
necessarily software  big grin
Bruno
Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr



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Re: OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/22/2006 1:37:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Except  that he said that he forwarded it...not replied to it...and 
jbhunt.com is  a valid company dns entry for the J. B. Hunt trucking  firm.




Definitely a forward. Also, I believe, a subsidiary of Wally Mart... still  
no reply.

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Edward Jaffe

J R wrote:

I apologize if I offended any person for whom English
is not their first language.  It was certainly not my
intention to do that.

My beef is with the nouveau-mainframers who insist
on using wintel and unix terminology in place of our
well-established vernacular.


It's funny. More and more I find myself referring to storage creep as a 
memory leak, TCBs as threads, WAIT/POST as blocking and unblocking, 
reIPL as a reboot of the mainframe, etc. Talk to them in words they 
understand and ... well ... they'll understand you.


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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
think of a job as a JCL and, therefore, several jobs as JCLs

Our whole change process for promoting to production calls them JCL and 
JCL's.
I found it irritating when I started here.

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Not many Americans could even begin to translate into a language other than 
English

Sometimes not even then.

England, Canada, Australia,  the USA.
Four countries separated by a common language!

.
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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Skip Robinson
Not just the four countries. Or fourteen or forty. English now belongs to 
everybody and is all the better for universal ownership. 

If somebody could just fix the d*mn spelling. ;-)

.
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Not many Americans could even begin to translate into a language other 
than English

Sometimes not even then.

England, Canada, Australia,  the USA.
Four countries separated by a common language!

.
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Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:56:51 -0400, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Jay Maynard wrote:

 to promote Progress of Science and useful Arts,
 by securing for limited Times to Authors and
 Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective
 Writings and Discoveries
 
  The *objective* was to foster innovation, NOT to reward people.

 Innovation is the objective. Reward is the mechanism. Without
 the mechanism, the objective will not be achieved.

That's quite possible, though I doubt very much that there is any actual
evidence for this frequent claim. Were Leonardo da Vinci or J.S. Bach or
countless other creators deterred by the lack of copyrights and patents? 
And
even if the claim is true, the current system of exclusive rights is far
from being the only possible mechanism.

And in an earlier note on this thread you wrote, in reply to this
statement from Charles Mills:

 Why does IP protection (patent, copyright, TM, and trade 
 secrets) exist? It is so that people can be rewarded for 
 their creativity. 

On this point you are quite wrong. IP protection exists (and
constitutionally so, in the USA) to promote the progress of
science and the useful arts. That it [secures] for a limited
time to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their
respective rights and discoveries is a side effect or necessary
implementation detail, and not the reason for its existence.

Yes, the US Constitution does say what is quoted above.  To call
the exclusive rights clause a side effect or necessary implementation
detail makes no sense to me.

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:22:40 -0400, J R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I apologize if I offended any person for whom English
is not their first language.  It was certainly not my
intention to do that.

My beef is with the nouveau-mainframers who insist
on using wintel and unix terminology in place of our
well-established vernacular.


Take it easy J R  , it was meant as a joke from all of us
Sorry if i started , and confused you . 
We dont'speak english or french here , we speak z/OS and i guess we 
all understand each other . 
And i agree with Ed : In order to be understood by the new tech guys 
on the next floor , we have to tell them that we intend to reboot 
next year because we never do garbagge collection  :-)) . 
Bruno
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OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Phil Payne
 Except  that he said that he forwarded it...not replied to it...and 
 jbhunt.com is  a valid
company dns entry for the J. B. Hunt trucking  firm.

Indeed.  I _can_ -  though some will find it hard to believe - spot devious 
emails.  This was
a genuine one.  Having been on global networks since I was a Fidonet node, my 
email
address(es) are well known to the spammers and I get an average of 180 spam 
emails a day.  The
system is pretty efficient - my only outstanding problem is what I'm now 
calling jigsaw
GIFs - people sending documents (usually penny stock spam) by digitising their 
crap in a
patchwork of GIFs with innocuous names and wrapping them in HTML to reassemble 
them as a page
image.

E.g. (from a couple of minutes ago):

Content analysis details:   (25.6 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name  description
 -- --
 0.5 PLING_QUERYSubject has exclamation mark and question mark
 2.0 DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX Date: is 96 hours or more before Received: date
 0.2 HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY  BODY: HTML has unbalanced body tags
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 1.]
 1.6 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
[Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?12.34.255.98]
 3.9 RCVD_IN_XBLRBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
[12.34.255.98 listed in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org]
 4.1 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL blocklist
[URIs: rudderkh.com]
 4.5 URIBL_SC_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the SC SURBL blocklist
[URIs: rudderkh.com]
 2.5 FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGSOutlook can't send HTML in this format
 4.1 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook
-1.2 AWLAWL: From: address is in the auto white-list

This catches all the phishing and pretty much all of the meds and 
refinancing stuff.

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Re: CKBR Instances on Mainframe MQ/CICS Bridge

2006-06-22 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
I've one CICS region that has two bridge tasks active, but the two CKBRs 
do not process the same queue. 

CICS is generally able to keep up with message arrivals.  Queue depth 
occasionally will spike to 20, but will return to 2 or less within 3-5 
seconds.  This at CKBP transaction completion rate of up to 95 per second. 
 Haven't seen any higher transaction rate.  MQ 5.3.1, CICS TS 2.3, DB2 
7.1, zOS 1.6.  Processor's a 2086-260.  MQ, CICS, DB2 account for 79% of 
the CPU at 95 tps.

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MQSeries 5.3.1 mainframe queue manager to a CICS 2.3 region. The bridge 
uses a CICS transaction CKBR to read the messages from the Bridge queue 
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place them into CICS for processing. 
Sometimes I get queueing occurring on this queue. It seems that CICS isn't 

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bruno Sugliani
 
 [ snip ]
 And i agree with Ed : In order to be understood by the new 
 tech guys on the next floor , we have to tell them that we 
 intend to reboot next year because we never do garbagge 
 collection  :-)) . 

We don't need to to garbage collection because our bit buckets are
virtually infinite.  :-D

-jc-

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Skip Robinson
I consider the term 'memory leak' to be a great contribution to the 
mainframe world. 'Storage creep' meanwhile is the guy who keeps bugging 
you with phone calls trying to sell you second hand memory cards. 

I was in a meeting the other day and said 'PTF'. One person was not a 
techie. Somebody else translated it as 'patch', which I accepted with the 
proviso that 'patch' has a fairly specific meaning in the mainframe world 
and is not synonymous with either 'PTF' or even 'fix'. As a language 
teacher and learner, I recognize that similarities among often cause as 
much trouble as differences. 

.
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J R wrote:
 I apologize if I offended any person for whom English
 is not their first language.  It was certainly not my
 intention to do that.

 My beef is with the nouveau-mainframers who insist
 on using wintel and unix terminology in place of our
 well-established vernacular.

It's funny. More and more I find myself referring to storage creep as a 
memory leak, TCBs as threads, WAIT/POST as blocking and unblocking, 
reIPL as a reboot of the mainframe, etc. Talk to them in words they 
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Re: OT - J B Hunt

2006-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/22/2006
   at 12:56 PM, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Sorry to waste people's time - but I can't think how to fix this one
any other way.

 1. Complain to his provider.

 2. Ask your provider to block that IP address.

I recently got a mailing list bounce from J B Hunt

Autoresponding to list traffic is abuse.

probable junk mail

Spam typically has a bogus From address, so that would be abuse even
if the message weren't from the list. The proper action for a spam
filter is to send a 5xx response during the SMTP session. Google for
backscatter and outscatter.

Putting up a return address and then blocking it

Fits right in with the other things they're doing. At best they're
clueless.

BTW, you need the header of the bounce to determine the proper
complaint addresses, specifically the Received fields.

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Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/21/2006
   at 08:23 AM, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

At the risk of getting flamed, I would like to respectfully disagree
with the apparent majority opinion on this list that all software
patents are bad, that the fact that software can be patented is a bad
thing.

I agree with you in principle, but it would be better to have no
patents at all than to allow patents for prior art and for things
obvious to practitioners, but theoretically prohibited. If the patent
examiners are unable to do their jobs then we should shut down the
PTO.

Why does IP protection (patent, copyright, TM, and trade secrets)
exist? It is so that people can be rewarded for their creativity.

Not in the US. It exists to promote the development of the useful
arts, at least in the case of copyrights and patents.

However there is an even simpler reform available, that is less
discussed: shorten the term of software patents.

Not just software. The US Constitution specifies a limited time, and
Congress has ridden roughshod over that.

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Re: ADCD based SMTP email

2006-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/21/2006
   at 07:09 PM, Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I have found the SBC blocks port 25 as a deterrent to spam.

Do they supply an MSA that listens on port 587 and authenticates
connections?
 
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Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Phil Payne
 My beef is with the nouveau-mainframers who insist on using wintel and unix 
 terminology in
place of our well-established vernacular.

Giggle.

Wasn''t it IBM that stole the term dataset (which had previously - 
1950s/1960s - meant a
modem) and used it as a synonym for file, much to many people's irritation?

How short memories are.  Just a few decades.  And UNIX is older than MVS, BTW.

There's always:

Someone who speaks three or more languages - a polyglot.
Someone who speaks two languages - bilingual.
Someone who speaks only one language - an American.

Actually, it's trite and quite unfair.  A lot of English-speaking Americans 
have competency in
Spanish and relatively few Britons speak even French.

(Completely bilingual in German, competent in French, laughable in Japanese 
despite a whole
year learning it in Frankfurt, taught in German.  And the Lord knows how many 
computer
languages, now subsuming into Object REXX.  What else do you need?)

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
How short memories are.  Just a few decades.  And UNIX is older than MVS, BTW.

I don't believe that!
Cite something.
MVS was out in 1974.
UNIX was out in '76.

'Course! Could be wrong!

But, the underpins of MVS were out much earlier than UNIX.
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Changing terminology ..

2006-06-22 Thread Shane Ginnane
Phil wrote on 23/06/2006 07:59:02 AM:


 How short memories are.  Just a few decades.

Indeed.
We *all* know what computers are don't we. Used to be flesh and bone ...
http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/titles/7999.html

Shane ...

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Re: SDSF poor performance when using SB or SE on a running job's output

2006-06-22 Thread Fred Schmidt
Thanks for the feedback.

Unfortunately, none of it explains what we are seeing, as the address 
space whose SDSF output was being browsed was a CICS region. The region 
was active and consuming CPU. CICS is started as a started task here and 
by virtue of ISC communication with other regions, is marked 
non-swappable. Our CICS regions have higher WLM performance goals and 
importance than the TSO address space that I was using SDSF in. 

Some feedback received privately indicates that we are not alone with 
seeing this behaviour, so I will open a problem with IBM and see how we 
go.

Regards,
Fred Schmidt

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Re: Old Hashing Routine

2006-06-22 Thread Ed Gould
I would run one of the dis-assemblers on it and see how complicated  
it is. It might be extremely easy or impossible.


Ed

On Jun 22, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Charles Mills wrote:


will ... be enough to satisfy my client's requirements?


Hard to say from this distance.

I can tell you that

- almost no non-trivial older program ever becomes purely 31-bit. Your
client may be happy if your result is mostly 31-bit or as 31-bit as
reasonably possible.
- I think it's worth a shot to see if it will run 31-bit, either  
both A  R
= 31, or just A=31, R=24. Sometimes you win these things on blind  
luck.
There is nothing about an older program that necessarily means it  
will not

run AMODE 31.

Charles



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Subject: Old Hashing Routine


My client has instructed me to modify some modules so that they run
above the line.  This was a no brainer until I ran across a call to
module BQKDPRS in several of the modules.  This is an old (1970's)
hashing routine for encrypting and decrypting a pin
number.  Naturally the client only has the object code and, since it
is so old, it can only run below the line.  So my questions are:

1.  Is there another routine that does the same thing as BQKDPRS but
can run above the line?

2.  If there isn't, will specifying DATA(31) for the compile options
of the Cobol programs calling BQKDPRS and Binder options of
Amode(31), Rmode(Any) be enough to satisfy my client's requirements?

Thanks.

Steve Wiegand

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Does any shop run the 3390-27 ?

2006-06-22 Thread Tsai Laurence

Dears,
Would like to know if any of your shop running the 3390-27 . If yes, why do 
you use it ? If no , why dont you use it ?

Any consideration of performance , system administration , s/w limitation ?

Thanks for your kinldy thoughts.

Sincerely,
Laurnece

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Re: ADCD based SMTP email

2006-06-22 Thread Brian Westerman
No,

But they have finally un-blocked port 25 so things are working correctly
now.  When I get some free time,I'll try to figure out where SMTP has port
25 set to be used and see if I can work out a zap to allow port 26 instead.

Brian

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Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-22 Thread Mark van der Eynden
And i agree with Ed : In order to be understood by the new tech guys
on the next floor , we have to tell them that we intend to reboot
next year because we never do garbagge collection  :-)) .
Bruno

The new tech guys have need of some of our words, ABEND is one that 
springs to mind. The PC guys use all sorts of terms to describe an ABEND 
interchangeably, incorrectly and misleadingly (crash, loop, stops, 
message, halt, Dr. Watson, you name it). To search on an FAQ, Support 
Forum, whatever, for an ABEND when there is no particular name for it is 
almost impossible.

While we are there, whatever happened to INCORROUT? It seems to have 
dropped from use in IBMLink. Don't we have any INCORROUT anymore? 

Windows doesn't, it's only INCORRINP, if you put in the CORRINP you will 
get the CORROUT, it's been tested!

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Re: Does any shop run the 3390-27 ?

2006-06-22 Thread Edward Jaffe

Tsai Laurence wrote:
Would like to know if any of your shop running the 3390-27 . If yes, 
why do you use it ? If no , why dont you use it ?
Any consideration of performance , system administration , s/w 
limitation ?


If, by 3390-27, you mean 3390 volumes configured with approximately 32K 
cylinders, we don't use them because they're too small. We prefer to use 
much larger volumes, approaching the current architectural limit for 3390.


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Re: Does any shop run the 3390-27 ?

2006-06-22 Thread Bob Shannon
Would like to know if any of your shop running the 3390-27 . 

 

Yes, we use it. Mod-27 is a fabrication - there is no actually device
type called 3390-27. The same is true for Mod-54. Most software will
report the device as a Mod-9. There shouldn't be performance problems as
it's using SCSI drives on the backend. Check your DR shop to insure they
can or will provide DASD configured in this size.

 

Bob Shannon

Rocket Software

 


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