Re: B-A-D
Peter Relson wrote: Please don't give up on bringing these situations to our attention. Are there any official or formal IBM announcement(s) or notes related to your personal note? This is to clarify the word 'our'. On this and other discussion lists, IBMers regurlarly state that only official methods (as stated in formal contracts) are to be used when complaining about problems. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RMM - Problems with special EXPDT and VRS
Alex, The solution I described goes on covering existing and new data sets as long as you run with EDGUX100 and have the special VRS MV VRSes defined to RMM - no matter what mode you run in. Verify that the data sets using special EXPDTs list something like this Data set name = SUPPORT.VRCYCLEA.C.C01V0021 Volume= B2Physical file sequence number = 4 Owner = HSM Data set sequence = 4 Create date = 10/06/1997 Create time = 11:00:11 System ID = EDS1 Expiration date = 10/11/1997 Original expir. date = 00/10/1999 Block size= 32760 Block count = 19 Percent of volume = 0 Total block count = 0 Logical Record Length = 0 Record Format = U Date last written = 10/06/1997 Date last read= 10/06/1997 Job name = HSMABR Last job name = Step name = ABAR0128 Last step name= Program name =Last program name = DD name = SYS3 Last DD name = Device number = 05A0 Last Device number= Management class =VRS management value = D99010 See 'Original expir. date' and 'VRS management value' VRSEL should continue matching this to VRS D99010 and manage the data set to the defined retention. ... and will continue to to do so until the retention is completed. Mike WoodRMM Development On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:15:15 -0500, Alex B Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike. I am right assuming the solution you described , does not cover tapes created after the switch to RMM in protect mode , after several VRSEL runs ?. Alex Nielsen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IODF convert backwards - updated with example
Hi Thank you very much . I could generate a new IODF and I could IPL the RESCUE system - I used as STEPLIB the sys1.linklib from RESCUE - I used the sys1.maclib also from the RESCUE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
Hello, GROUP I spent the whole day reviewing my understanding about the concept of virtual storage and found something I cannot figure out. I hope experts here can give me some hints. Maybe I should start from GETMAIN. I have used GETMAIN/FREEMAIN for some time in my programming exercises and one question has remained on my mind from the first day I knew these services: After a successful GETMAIN request, I will get a virtual storage area to use. Is that area supported by either real storage or auxiliary storage as soon as the GETMAIN completes? My guess is: it depends and it's very possible that it is not. I cannot find anything to support my above guess in manuals and it's purely from my deduction: 1. I once read in the list that 'if you GETMAIN a two large area and as soon as you begin to access it, it will cause a heavy usage of auxiliary storage.' 2. There is an example in an assembler language book which is about the usage of PGRLSE: Release the area GETMAINed using PGRLSE and then you can still access it. Suppose my guess is true and now I start to access the area GETMAINed. During the translation process, the hardware will find the corresponding entry in the segment table has SEGMENT-INVALID BIT on and it will signal a SEGMENT-TRANSLATION exception. How will the OS handle it? If the area has been GETMAINed, OS will allocate it in the unit of segment: back it up using either real or auxiliary storage. If not, it will throw the exception to my program and if my program cannot handle it I will get a 0C4 completion code. So GETMAIN/FREEMAIN has no direct relation to virtual storage backing up: when you GETMAIN, it doesn't mean OS will try to back up that area and FREEMAIN doesn't mean that area will be released like what PGRLSE does. I know it's not an easy topic and you cannot expect to grasp it in one day. So forgive me if my understanding is wrong and silly. -- Best Regards, Johnny Luo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RMM - Problems with special EXPDT and VRS
Hi Mike. Ok i understand now. My problem now is to convert these TLMS's RMF defs. to RMM : EXPDT=990cc Cycle control (cc specifies the number of cycles) EXPDT=991dd Catalog control and date control(Volume will not be sent to scratch unless the dataset's is not cataloged and there has gone dd days sinece the dataset has been created) EXPDT=992dd Date control (The volume will not be returned to scratch until 'dd' days). My question is now : is there a easy way to specify something in PGM : EDGCSRDS DDNAME : VRSVALUE , so i do not have to define about 300 VRS ? I have no documention what i can specify in DDNAME : VRSVALUE and how can i import data from : DEXTOUT to RMM ? Regards Alex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Choice Overload In Parallel Programming http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/07/10/03/0021253.shtml from above: And then we show them the parallel programming environments they can work with: MPI, OpenMP, Ct, HPF, TBB, Erlang, Shmemm, Portals, ZPL, BSP, CHARM++, Cilk, Co-array Fortran, PVM, Pthreads, windows threads, Tstreams, GA, Java, UPC, Titanium, Parlog, NESL,Split-C... and the list goes on and on. If we aren't careful, the result could very well be a 'choice overload' experience with software vendors running away in frustration. ... snip .. and ... Embedded software stuck at C http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=202102427 from above: The inability of C/C++ code to parallelize coupled with its ubiquity throughout the embedded market is a major issue for multi-core going forward, Heikkila wrote in a follow up email to EE Times. Any alternative parallel programming languages certainly won't materialize in the embedded market, but instead will more likely gain momentum in a more mainstream computing market before making its way into embedded applications, he added. ... snip ... past posts in thread: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#24 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#26 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#34 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#38 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#60 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#63 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#5 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#13 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#14 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#19 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#22 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#26 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#29 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#37 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#39 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#49 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#51 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#52 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#53 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#54 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#58 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#59 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#61 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#70 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#1 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#3 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#6 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#25 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#28 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#38 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#39 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: B-A-D
In a message dated 10/3/2007 5:15:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On this and other discussion lists, IBMers regurlarly state that only official methods (as stated in formal contracts) are to be used when complaining about problems. Yeah, but that's the beauty of a long running list(since 1986) where ideas and observation can be freely exchanged. While the formal may be legalese/policy the seeds of innovation may be planted by frustration, disappointment or delusion with current methods and practices. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
In a message dated 10/3/2007 6:57:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So GETMAIN/FREEMAIN has no direct relation to virtual storage backing up: when you GETMAIN, it doesn't mean OS will try to back up that area and FREEMAIN doesn't mean that area will be released like what PGRLSE does. I know it's not an easy topic and you cannot expect to grasp it in one day. So forgive me if my understanding is wrong and silly. Most of this is covered in the Internals course. IIRC it's a two weeker and yep it's complicated. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
Johnny, This is an extremely complicated process, based on a number of factors, many of which your program has no control. However, your guess is usually correct, in that if the page returned has never been allocated to your program, then no real or aux storage will be allocated. On the first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM will get involved to locate a page for you. Your program will NOT see this 0C4, unless in the highly unlikely situation that there is no real storage available. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Luo Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up Hello, GROUP I spent the whole day reviewing my understanding about the concept of virtual storage and found something I cannot figure out. I hope experts here can give me some hints. Maybe I should start from GETMAIN. I have used GETMAIN/FREEMAIN for some time in my programming exercises and one question has remained on my mind from the first day I knew these services: After a successful GETMAIN request, I will get a virtual storage area to use. Is that area supported by either real storage or auxiliary storage as soon as the GETMAIN completes? My guess is: it depends and it's very possible that it is not. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
Does the 2 week internal course still exist? I remember taking it from Amdahl in their education center in Columbia Maryland back in 1982. I don't think IBM gave the class anymore, or else they quit shortly after. I think about 5 teachers taught the Amdahl class when I took it. It was very good. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most of this is covered in the Internals course. IIRC it's a two weeker and yep it's complicated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Change in IBM's mainframe strategy
My reason for saying what I did is that outsourcers can offer major price benefits to a company (ABC) running it's own system by bringing ABC on board it's huge Processing complex and then (if needed) aggragating the sysplex MSUs together and thus reducing the licence fees of ABC (as well as its existing base). Then IBM has made it easier to manage the resources used by the small companies running on LPARS by introducing group capacity limits. I am not saying that IBM are doing nothing for the smaller user, but they are making it easier for them to justify outsourcing. Regards Errol -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:39:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM will get involved to locate a page for you. Your program will NOT see this 0C4, unless in the highly unlikely situation that there is no real storage available. But YOU can see the 0C4 interrupt and the resumption of your program's execution in a system trace. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
White space and GCL
Does anyone out there know whether two LPARS in A capacity group, would steal resource from each other first, or form white space if it were available? Let's assume LPAR Prod = 200 MIPS LPAR Dev =100 mips. There is white space available of 100 MIPS. Prod reaches 100% and starts sneaking above the 200 MIPS mark (it is soft- capped only so it willl take a while before it is pegged back). Prod now requires 250 MIPS and Dev is only running at 40% capacity so there are 60 MIPS available to loan to Prod. The question: Will Prod dip into the spare capacity on Dev first or into white space first?? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
That is true, and it is also the reason that in the MVS System Commands manual, in the chapter on SLIP, it strongly recommends never setting a global slip for 0C4's. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:39:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM will get involved to locate a page for you. Your program will NOT see this 0C4, unless in the highly unlikely situation that there is no real storage available. But YOU can see the 0C4 interrupt and the resumption of your program's execution in a system trace. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:52:05 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote: In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:39:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM will get involved to locate a page for you. Your program will NOT see this 0C4, unless in the highly unlikely situation that there is no real storage available. But YOU can see the 0C4 interrupt and the resumption of your program's execution in a system trace. Just to nit pick a little... It is not a 0C4, but a PIC 4. 0C4 is not an interruption, but the abend code that MVS produces when it is unable to resolve the program interruption. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/03/2007 10:58:42 AM: That is true, and it is also the reason that in the MVS System Commands manual, in the chapter on SLIP, it strongly recommends never setting a global slip for 0C4's. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:39:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM will get involved to locate a page for you. Your program will NOT see this 0C4, unless in the highly unlikely situation that there is no real storage available. But YOU can see the 0C4 interrupt and the resumption of your program's execution in a system trace. For a first reference page or segment fault, you will see a PGM 011 or 010 entry, not a *RCVY for a 0C4 abend. There is no 0C4 abend for a first reference fault which can be resolved. The recommendation against a global 0C4 SLIP trap is due to the anticipated 0C4 abends which occur while taking dumps. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:58:42 -0400, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is true, and it is also the reason that in the MVS System Commands manual, in the chapter on SLIP, it strongly recommends never setting a global slip for 0C4's. No. The PIC 4 page fault is not processed by RTM. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:52 AM But YOU can see the 0C4 interrupt and the resumption of your program's execution in a system trace. Bill Fairchild -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
In a message dated 10/3/2007 10:19:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just to nit pick a little... It is not a 0C4, but a PIC 4. 0C4 is not an interruption, but the abend code that MVS produces when it is unable to resolve the program interruption. Ah, good catch. I should have caught that one since I got burned by the same nit many months ago. Also, speaking of the system trace (in my earlier post), there is a treasure trove of educational data in there on z/OS behavior and not just on 0C4s and PIC 4s. Study it some time. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Common sense eventually will prevail not because it is common sense, but because continuous violation of common sense produces collapse. [Henry Makow] ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
High Water Mark for a HLQ
Does anyone know how to get a high water mark for a particular HLQ. Meaning how much space this HLQ (application) is using? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
Tom Marchant wrote: In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:39:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM will get involved to locate a page for you. Your program will NOT see this 0C4, unless in the highly unlikely situation that there is no real storage available. But YOU can see the 0C4 interrupt and the resumption of your program's execution in a system trace. Just to nit pick a little... It is not a 0C4, but a PIC 4. 0C4 is not an interruption, but the abend code that MVS produces when it is unable to resolve the program interruption. And, to nit pick a bit more, PIC 0004 is a protection exception. That is *not* the interrupt you normally see in the trace when accessing a page in first reference state. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
Wayne, Thanks a lot. That's the confirmation I need. Acutally everything in MVS world is complicated than I expected. So many factors, so many variations. Thus learning it is a never-ending process. Johnny On 10/3/07, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johnny, This is an extremely complicated process, based on a number of factors, many of which your program has no control. However, your guess is usually correct, in that if the page returned has never been allocated to your program, then no real or aux storage will be allocated. On the first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM will get involved to locate a page for you. Your program will NOT see this 0C4, unless in the highly unlikely situation that there is no real storage available. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: High Water Mark for a HLQ
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:48:47 -0500, gsg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to get a high water mark for a particular HLQ. Meaning how much space this HLQ (application) is using? Lots of ways. DCOLLECT, products like MXG, MICS, etc. I have used the VTOC command from the CBT file 112 in combination with the VTOCTOT REXX code from CBT file 434 or my web site (URL below). VTOCTOT reports by HLQ. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
--snip-- I spent the whole day reviewing my understanding about the concept of virtual storage and found something I cannot figure out. I hope experts here can give me some hints. Maybe I should start from GETMAIN. I have used GETMAIN/FREEMAIN for some time in my programming exercises and one question has remained on my mind from the first day I knew these services: After a successful GETMAIN request, I will get a virtual storage area to use. Is that area supported by either real storage or auxiliary storage as soon as the GETMAIN completes? --unsnip- No, but the various VSM control blocks will be updated to reflect your ownership of that storage. snip- My guess is: it depends and it's very possible that it is not. I cannot find anything to support my above guess in manuals and it's purely from my deduction: 1. I once read in the list that 'if you GETMAIN a two large area and as soon as you begin to access it, it will cause a heavy usage of auxiliary storage.' -unsnip- No. ASM and RSM will work together to provide storage on a page-by-page basis as you use it, based on the contents of the VSM control blocks that describe the storage. If and when you exceed the boundaries described by the VSM blocks, you'll get ABENDed. -snip- 2. There is an example in an assembler language book which is about the usage of PGRLSE: Release the area GETMAINed using PGRLSE and then you can still access it. ---unsnip- I have NEVER recommended the use of PGRLSE; let RSM decide when a page should be paged out or stolen, rather than trying to second-guess RSM and his overall view of system real storage usage based on workload and performance requirements. Yes, you might still be able to access the storage, but the system load might be such that you are introducing additional paging load. Let z/OS do it; that's part of what it's designed for. snip- Suppose my guess is true and now I start to access the area GETMAINed. During the translation process, the hardware will find the corresponding entry in the segment table has SEGMENT-INVALID BIT on and it will signal a SEGMENT-TRANSLATION exception. How will the OS handle it? If the area has been GETMAINed, OS will allocate it in the unit of segment: back it up using either real or auxiliary storage. If not, it will throw the exception to my program and if my program cannot handle it I will get a 0C4 completion code. ---unsnip-- ASM, RSM and VSM all work together to resolve these kinds of issues; it's called Teamwork. If you've validly GETMAINed the storage, you'll never know where the storage resided when you started the access; if you don't validly own the storage, you'll see the mainframe equivalent of Microsoft's Blue Screen of Death. It's been that way all the way back to OS/360, and, I suspect, most of the other operating systems that were used before then. --snip- So GETMAIN/FREEMAIN has no direct relation to virtual storage backing up: when you GETMAIN, it doesn't mean OS will try to back up that area and FREEMAIN doesn't mean that area will be released like what PGRLSE does. --unsnip-- Quite the contrary. VSM, RSM and ASM work closely together, communicating through the various control blocks that each uses to maintain integrity. VSM works according to the program's perceived needs; ASM and RSM are more concerned about actual usage and its legality vis-a-vis VSM. --snip--- I know it's not an easy topic and you cannot expect to grasp it in one day. So forgive me if my understanding is wrong and silly. --unsnip--- It's a very complex relationship and not always easily understood. When is a SLOT assigned? A FRAME? When is a page STOLEN? SWAPPING versus PAGING? Unless there's a really pressing need to know the intimate details, most folks treat the whole area as a Black Box and assume the management of real storage and auxilliary storage are accomplished by FM (Freakin' Magic). With advances in performance management, it's hardly worthwhile to worry about the intimate details and far more sensible to be concerned about overall storage performance. In the good old days of SRM, we built storage fences, worried about page rates for certain applications, etc. With Workload Management, it's far more sensible, in most cases, to be more concerned about overall workloads and less concerned about the
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:41:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does the 2 week internal course still exist? I remember taking it from Amdahl in their education center in Columbia Maryland back in 1982. I don't think IBM gave the class anymore, or else they quit shortly I was in such a hurry to get to the Dr. I didn't even look. Likewise I took the Amdahl version in Sunnyvale. Be back in a while. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
#XAAINTR not found
Good afternoon, I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this list have any idea what #XAAINTR is and what might be calling it??? Bruce Barcome Pitney Bowes Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
Bob, There is a series of metrics known as the Halstead Complexity Measures. While there seems to be significantly differing opinions as to how valid these are, you might want to check them out. /* Beginning of advertisement */ FYI, we market a product that will generate these statistics for you. /* End of advertisement */ Good luck, Art Art Golden SEA Tech Support (516) 328-7000 (800) 272-7322 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bob Fake - InfoSec, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code Hi All, I've searched the archives, but didn't find anything on this... Can anyone tell me or does anyone know where I might find a documented industry standard amount of time it takes to analyze a line of code? I suspect something has been published on this somewhere, but I can't seem to locate anything. I'm sure the amount of time varies depending on the type of code (ALC, COBOL, EZtrieve, et al) but any direction would be greatly appreciated. Bob Robert B. Fake InfoSec, Inc. 703-825-1202 (o) 571-241-5492 (c) 949-203-0406 (efax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at www.infosecinc.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman --snip-- It's a very complex relationship and not always easily understood. When is a SLOT assigned? A FRAME? When is a page STOLEN? SWAPPING versus PAGING? Unless there's a really pressing need to know the intimate details, most folks treat the whole area as a Black Box and assume the management of real storage and auxilliary storage are accomplished by FM (Freakin' Magic). With advances in performance management, it's hardly worthwhile to worry about the intimate details and far more sensible to be concerned about overall storage performance. In the good old days of SRM, we built storage fences, worried about page rates for certain applications, etc. With Workload Management, it's far more sensible, in most cases, to be more concerned about overall workloads and less concerned about the smaller details. But theoretically, at least, the better one understands how it works, the more efficient one's code might become. And a better understanding of how it works can enable one to dazzle them with brilliance rather than try to baffle them with bullsh*t. :-) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: #XAAINTR not found
That's AbendAid from Compuware. Brian On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:17:03 -0400, Bruce wrote: Good afternoon, I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this list have any idea what #XAAINTR is and what might be calling it??? Bruce Barcome -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: #XAAINTR not found
Bruce, #XAAINTR is an Abend-Aid routine... Hope this helps, Gary On 3 Oct 2007, at 12:17 PM, Bruce wrote: Good afternoon, I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this list have any idea what #XAAINTR is and what might be calling it??? Bruce Barcome Pitney Bowes Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:53:12 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: Just to nit pick a little... It is not a 0C4, but a PIC 4. 0C4 is not an interruption, but the abend code that MVS produces when it is unable to resolve the program interruption. And, to nit pick a bit more, PIC 0004 is a protection exception. That is *not* the interrupt you normally see in the trace when accessing a page in first reference state. Thanks for the correction, Ed. Nor for a page fault because the page had been stolen. For a normal page fault, it would be a PIC 0010 or 0011. Is first reference diffrent? Since we are talking about GETMAIN, it wouldn't be a PIC 0039, 003A or 003B. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: #XAAINTR not found
Compuware ABEND-AID -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: #XAAINTR not found Good afternoon, I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this list have any idea what #XAAINTR is and what might be calling it??? Bruce Barcome Pitney Bowes Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:53:12 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: Just to nit pick a little... It is not a 0C4, but a PIC 4. 0C4 is not an interruption, but the abend code that MVS produces when it is unable to resolve the program interruption. And, to nit pick a bit more, PIC 0004 is a protection exception. That is *not* the interrupt you normally see in the trace when accessing a page in first reference state. Thanks for the correction, Ed. Nor for a page fault because the page had been stolen. For a normal page fault, it would be a PIC 0010 or 0011. Is first reference diffrent? Since we are talking about GETMAIN, it wouldn't be a PIC 0039, 003A or 003B. Right. PIC 0010 or PIC 0011 is what you normally see in this case. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: #XAAINTR not found
The load module #XAAINTR cannot not be loaded. Check the STEPLIB/LOADLIB or it's not on the LINKLIST. If you need further assistance, customers can open a call on at http://frontline.compuware.com Thanks. Good afternoon, I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this list have any idea what #XAAINTR is and what might be calling it??? Bruce Barcome Bob Yee Software Architect Compuware Corporation One Campus Martius Detroit, MI 48226 USA Telephone:(313) 227-7454 Mobile: (248) 515-7490 Fax: (313) 227-9547 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS
I am just starting to have to added support for VSAM EF in our environment. I was wondering if there was any consensus as to what to do with them. Do you have them in their own pool? Do you combine them in a common pool? I have the data class already set up. I am having the users code the DATACLAS(VSAMEF) in their VSAM control cards. I will put them in a filtlist if needed, however, I only have 2 requests currently so it is managable. Any recommendataions are appreciated. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OA19194: AMATERSE - Now Available for z/OS 1.7/1.8
APAR Identifier .. OA19194 Last Changed 07/10/03 NEW FUNCTION - AMATERSE, ALIAS TRSMAIN, IS A SUPPORTED SERVICE AID FUNCTION Symptom .. NF FUNCTION Status ... CLOSED UR1 Severity ... 4 Date Closed . 07/09/14 Component .. 5752SC112 Duplicate of Reported Release . 720 Fixed Release 999 Component Name 5752 AMASPZAPSpecial Notice ATTENTION Current Target Date .. Flags SCP ... SERVICEABILITY Platform Status Detail: SHIPMENT - Packaged solution is available for shipment. PE PTF List: PTF List: Release 720 : UA36927 available 07/10/03 (1000 ) Release 730 : UA36928 available 07/10/03 (1000 ) Parent APAR: Child APAR list: -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS
Hi Lizette. We place them in a combined pool in our environment and have had no issues doing so. We have been doing this for quite some time now. ThanksRick -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS I am just starting to have to added support for VSAM EF in our environment. I was wondering if there was any consensus as to what to do with them. Do you have them in their own pool? Do you combine them in a common pool? I have the data class already set up. I am having the users code the DATACLAS(VSAMEF) in their VSAM control cards. I will put them in a filtlist if needed, however, I only have 2 requests currently so it is managable. Any recommendataions are appreciated. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OA19194: AMATERSE - Now Available for z/OS 1.7/1.8
Apparently the smart money's on continuing to use TRSMAIN with the existing DDs if you have pre-existing jobs as the new entry point uses different DD names. I'm not sure if anything else is different. (This from a session at Expo by the Stand-Up (z/OS) Philosopher. :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS
Lizette, My recommendation is a common pool, especially if you are using logical volume sizes greater than 3390-9s. I cannot think of a good reason for a separate pool. Also, assuming KSDS here, I would work on the goal of making VSAMEF the default. Otherwise, you remain in the filtlist updating game. One of the major benefits to Extended Format is System Managed Buffering (SMB). We are in the process of trying to get all KSDS to be EF so that we can get rid of an ISV product that does buffering. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS I am just starting to have to added support for VSAM EF in our environment. I was wondering if there was any consensus as to what to do with them. Do you have them in their own pool? Do you combine them in a common pool? I have the data class already set up. I am having the users code the DATACLAS(VSAMEF) in their VSAM control cards. I will put them in a filtlist if needed, however, I only have 2 requests currently so it is managable. Any recommendataions are appreciated. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
recovering cobol source code
Does anyone know of any product can take old cobol/vs load modules and recreate the source code for it. I heard of something called 'Source Recovery' but it is very expensive. Thanks list -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS
Lizette I am just starting to have to added support for VSAM EF in our environment. I was wondering if there was any consensus as to what to do with them. Do you have them in their own pool? Do you combine them in a common pool? I never saw any reason to treat them differently than any other SMS managed vsam dataset but I am not in your shop. I have the data class already set up. I am having the users code the DATACLAS(VSAMEF) in their VSAM control cards. I will put them in a filtlist if needed, however, I only have 2 requests currently so it is managable. I allow the dataclas to be accepted as well. It gives the user the flexibility to try it at their pace and handle the backout if they do not like what they see. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OA19194: AMATERSE - Now Available for z/OS 1.7/1.8
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:12:50 +0100, Martin Packer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently the smart money's on continuing to use TRSMAIN with the existing DDs if you have pre-existing jobs as the new entry point uses different DD names. I'm not sure if anything else is different. (This from a session at Expo by the Stand-Up (z/OS) Philosopher. :-) Cheers, Martin He did the same routine @ SHARE in San Diego. Always a good time! Cheers, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: B-A-D
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:35:59 -0400, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... However dumb a behavior might be, there is usually a pretty good chance that changing that behavior will break someone. We thus tend to make such changes in the next release where feasible (and highlight the change in the migration information) and/or make the customer who is applying service to an existing release specify some option to ask for the behavior change (i.e., not make a change in behavior by default in the service stream). ... Occassionally there are BAD situations where the dumb behavior amount to system integrity exposures so IBM decides to move ahead with fixes anyway. A case in point: a significant interaction between Websphere and TCP/IP that can exhaust TCP/IP's (and VTAM's) alloted allocation of ECSA, and potentially, all of MVS's ECSA. While IBM didn't oper any APARs (as far as I know) there has already been one fix to Websphere and, according to the grapevine, a TCP/IP fix and another fix to Websphere in the works. On the other hand, there was a VTAM perfomance issue that (I think) resulted in a PMR being closed as WAD. So the user submitted a SHARE Requirement. The Req was rejected because implementing the requested function would have left VTAM in violation of APPN specs. So the user is left with a significant perfomance problem. If both PMRs and Requirements result in no solution, what is next? How do we bring such things to IBM's attention? Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket being created
Nuff said... Thanks, Sam This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
racf
We are almost ready to go live with zos 1.7. Is there a way to keep racf password upper/lower all Upper like it is under 1.4. Bill Carroll EMAIL DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged or confidential and is protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
High Water Mark for a HLQ
Does anyone know how to get the absolute HWM for a HLQ. Standard tools, ISV tools etc... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: racf
Carroll, William wrote: We are almost ready to go live with zos 1.7. Is there a way to keep racf password upper/lower all Upper like it is under 1.4. That is the default behavior. To get different behavior, you must explicitly enable the mixed-case password feature. Check your RACF system options. You should already see: MIXED CASE PASSWORD SUPPORT IS NOT IN EFFECT. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket # 33328838
SEV1 ticket # 33328838 Uptime ETA 4PM EST Thanks, Sam This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA:Allocate
Lucy, How do you like CA-Allocate? What are you using it for? We are looking at it to possibly replace StopX37 and to provide reports on the absolute HWM by HLQ. What were you using before? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket # 33328838
Sam, thanks for staying on top of this. Is it the authentication service again? If you were already logged in, are you affected? Just trying to figure out if I should automatically log in at the beginning of each day and stay on, even if I might not need IBMLink that day. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket # 33328838 SEV1 ticket # 33328838 Uptime ETA 4PM EST *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: racf
We are almost ready to go live with zos 1.7. Is there a way to keep racf password upper/lower all Upper like it is under 1.4. Do nothing, the default is NOMIXEDCASE. Thanks, Jay Howard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:18:46 -0400, Art Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... There is a series of metrics known as the Halstead Complexity Measures. While there seems to be significantly differing opinions as to how valid these are, you might want to check them out. ... I'd been meaning to ask if there was an industry standard for generating meainingless metrics but never got around to it. Unfortunately, I guess there is. sigh Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket # 33328838
I was logged on and can no longer get to my ETRs. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imbriale, Donald Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket # 33328838 Sam, thanks for staying on top of this. Is it the authentication service again? If you were already logged in, are you affected? Just trying to figure out if I should automatically log in at the beginning of each day and stay on, even if I might not need IBMLink that day. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket # 33328838 SEV1 ticket # 33328838 Uptime ETA 4PM EST *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: B-A-D
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:35:59 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: ... However dumb a behavior might be, there is usually a pretty good chance that changing that behavior will break someone. We thus tend to make such changes in the next release where feasible (and highlight the change in the migration information) and/or make the customer who is applying service to an existing release specify some option to ask for the behavior change (i.e., not make a change in behavior by default in the service stream). ... Occassionally there are BAD situations where the dumb behavior amount to system integrity exposures so IBM decides to move ahead with fixes anyway. A case in point: a significant interaction between Websphere and TCP/IP that can exhaust TCP/IP's (and VTAM's) alloted allocation of ECSA, and potentially, all of MVS's ECSA. While IBM didn't oper any APARs (as far as I know) there has already been one fix to Websphere and, according to the grapevine, a TCP/IP fix and another fix to Websphere in the works. On the other hand, there was a VTAM perfomance issue that (I think) resulted in a PMR being closed as WAD. So the user submitted a SHARE Requirement. The Req was rejected because implementing the requested function would have left VTAM in violation of APPN specs. So the user is left with a significant perfomance problem. If both PMRs and Requirements result in no solution, what is next? How do we bring such things to IBM's attention? For a work in progress, see SHARE Requirement SSMVSS07009 and its discussion regarding DFSMSdss's handling of the dataset changed indicator bit in the VTOC on full-volume RESTOREs (it unconditionally turns them off). There is also some discussion of this in the IBM-MAIN archives starting around December, 2006. So far, IBM has offered temporary relief via APAR OA20907. What's omitted from the Requirement and other related discussions is the fact that DFSMSdss handles the changed bit differently on a logical (DATASET) RESTORE: If the changed bit was originally on at DUMP time, it's turned on in the VTOC after RESTORE DATASET. In my original PMR that eventually led to the Requirement (and indirectly to APAR OA20907), DSS Level 2 admitted that this was due to an incorrect implementation of a nearly-decade-old APAR for a different situation, and that fixing that now would incur too much risk of breaking other things that now rely on that counter-intuitive behavior. I guess that would be B-A-F (Broken As Fixed)? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: racf
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carroll, William We are almost ready to go live with zos 1.7. Is there a way to keep racf password upper/lower all Upper like it is under 1.4. Sure: Do nothing. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Wikipedia?
Does anyone else following this list contribute to the mainframe-related pages on Wikipedia? For instance, I just added the page for Unit Control Block, pointed to by the disambiguation page for UCB. Wikipedia might not be the right forum for such material (and I'd be the first to admit that UCB is probably an obscure thing to write about but you have to if you want to stand a chance of describing PAV and HyperPAV properly). Opinions? Thanks, Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: High Water Mark for a HLQ
I think you asked this question before. I've used the TALLY exec which can be found on file 183 at the CBT tape site. www.cbttape.org On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:45:22 -0500, gsg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to get the absolute HWM for a HLQ. Standard tools, ISV tools etc... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
More specifically, I'm looking at this from a maintenance perspective. If I give a programmer an existing program to modify, how long on average will it take, per line of code, to analyze the program to then be able to then make necessary changes. No way to predict. It all depends on whether the author (or the last person to maintain it) was stark raving mad! Or like a system programmer in a shop I worked in who would write extensive modifications to the operating system code at the request of management. He was a brilliant assembler programmer but hated to document. When you came to a comment in his code that said Warning Will Robinson you knew to read very carefully because he was using some sort strange assembler construct. Tom Kelman * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GRS Joining Complex
Thoughts interspersed below: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:24:14 +, John P Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we just moved from V1R4 to V1R7 29SEP07 we had a Test LPAR executing V1R7 and a Prod LPAR executing V1R4 these two happily coexisted with GRS as PLEXCFG=MONOPLEX, and system logger files defined with PLEX5 and PLEX1 with the Prod LPAR under V1R7, we IPLed the Test LPAR (V1R7) and this is the last thing displayed before the Test LPAR went dead and the Prod LPAR just waited while recovering ISG011I SYSTEM CPU5 - JOINING GRS COMPLEX This message means that this system has detected that the system, named CPU5 is joining this GRS complex. While this is happening, all global ENQ activity (that is, ENQ/DEQ requests for SYSTEMS level resources) is suspended until the JOIN completes. *$HASP9201 JES2 MAIN TASK WAIT DETECTED AT ISGNLPA +0099DE 891 DURATION-000:00:12.97 PCE-CKPT EXIT-NONE JOB ID-NONE *$HASP9207 JES2 CHECKPOINT LOCK HELD 892 DURATION-000:00:17.99 Best guess (without viewing the code) is that the JES2 main task issued a GRS request (an ENQ or DEQ) and is waiting (probably for the JOIN to complete). ISG is the module prefix for GRS component modules. If you're good at dump reading, you could take a dump of JES2 and GRS and probably figure out what the GRS request is and where it was requested from. there was also some squawking about a CTC following the previous D GRS,SYSTEM IOS000I 030F,**,SIM,**,**06GRS IEF196I IOS071I 030F,05,GRS, MISSING CHANNEL AND DEVICE END IOS071I 030F,05,GRS, MISSING CHANNEL AND DEVICE END 924 ISG046E CTC 030F DISABLED DUE TO HARDWARE ERROR CODE=05 VARY 030F,OFFLINE COMPONENT:SCSDS MODULE:ISGBTC PURPOSE:DISABLE CTC Looks like some I/O error occurred on CTC 030F. ISG022E SYSTEM CPU1 DISRUPTED GLOBAL RESOURCE SERIALIZATION DUE TO 929 COMMUNICATION FAILURE - GLOBAL RESOURCE REQUESTORS WILL BE SUSPENDED The I/O error causes GRS to go into ring recovery. Further delays in global processing will occur. Recovery of the members will be governed by your GRSCNF parameters ISG047I CTC 030F DISABLED Yes, this is bad news from the GRS perspective. In a non-sysplex GRS ring, GRS counts on the CTCs to communicate between members of the GRS complex. Do you have alternate CTCs defined to handle soft or hard failures? but we really do not think a problem exists with the CTC, rather a definition is incorrect Could be true, however that distinction is not interesting to GRS. It attempted I/O down the CTC and it didn't work. CA-MIM is also in the mix Although related, it is not likely that MIM is doing anything to keep GRS from communicating down the CTC. Question: Why are you using both MIM and GRS? thoughts? Investigate why the CTC failed to work properly. John Donnelly z/OS Systems Services National Semiconductor Corporation 2900 Semiconductor Drive Santa Clara, CA 95051 PH: 408-721-5640 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Fagen Enterprise Systems Management -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
Reminds me as well of a bank's audio teller code (Assembler) I was made responsible for when I was about 20 and the comments were in German :-) Bob Robert B. Fake InfoSec, Inc. 703-825-1202 (o) 571-241-5492 (c) 949-203-0406 (efax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at www.infosecinc.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code More specifically, I'm looking at this from a maintenance perspective. If I give a programmer an existing program to modify, how long on average will it take, per line of code, to analyze the program to then be able to then make necessary changes. No way to predict. It all depends on whether the author (or the last person to maintain it) was stark raving mad! Or like a system programmer in a shop I worked in who would write extensive modifications to the operating system code at the request of management. He was a brilliant assembler programmer but hated to document. When you came to a comment in his code that said Warning Will Robinson you knew to read very carefully because he was using some sort strange assembler construct. Tom Kelman * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: High Water Mark for a HLQ
What do you mean by High Level Water mark? There is no limit to the number of files that can be created on the mainframe unless there are exits or processes put in place. Please provide a clearer statement of what you are looking for or supply examples. Bassically all datasets created in an MVS z/OS enviroment consist of high level qualifiers or aliases. The HLQ can be from 1 to 8 characters in length. Separating the data names are dots . So I can create (provided I have access) a data set called A or A.B or A.B.C or A.B.C upto 44 characters in length. Unless it is a GDG in which case it is 35. So, what are you looking for? The number of Aliases that can be handled by one usercat? The number of data sets a single HLQ can have allocated? The amount of dasd or tape one HLQ can allocate? Please be more specific. Lizette Does anyone know how to get the absolute HWM for a HLQ. Standard tools, ISV tools etc... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
QTP (Quick Test Professional) MAcros from mainframe emulator
Hi , This is bouncer for me ... but any one who can help ... Does anyone an idea about QTP (Quick Test Professional) which can be used to create MACROS from mainframe emulator screen which can be reused ? JAcky -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wikipedia?
Does anyone else following this list contribute to the mainframe-related pages on Wikipedia? Opinions? Wikipedia is an absolutely AMAZING knowledge base. I love the way it works. I realize there will be nay-sayers that will mention its not always accurate, but ultimately, its self-healing. That's the beauty of it - its just like we are - full of knowledge, some accurate, some not, but always striving to become so. I have not contributed to mainframe related topics, mainly because I never feel like I know enough to do so, but I have to others. Jeffrey Deaver, Engineer Systems Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-665-4231(v) 651-610-7670(p) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FTP of fixed file off the mainframe
I am FTPing a fixed record length file from the mainframe to a Unix box where a vendor has access to pick up that file and FTP it to his machine. I don't know what kind of machine he has, but he's saying that he's missing my space fill for the shorter records. The first thing I verified is that the file does, in fact, have spaces, not low values on the mainframe. Then I tried to find out what the file looks like on the Unix machine. I opened it from my PC using Ultra-Edit, which asked if I wanted to convert it to DOS format. I haven't figured out what this means, so I opened it both ways.Pressing the end key, I go to the last non-blank character in a record, but I have no idea whether that is the last character or not. I'm trying to find out whether the spaces got truncated in my FTP or whether it happened later. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wikipedia?
Martin Packer wrote: Does anyone else following this list contribute to the mainframe-related pages on Wikipedia? For instance, I just added the page for Unit Control Block, pointed to by the disambiguation page for UCB. Wikipedia might not be the right forum for such material (and I'd be the first to admit that UCB is probably an obscure thing to write about but you have to if you want to stand a chance of describing PAV and HyperPAV properly). Opinions? Good idea! This is one of ways to popularize mainframe knowledge. It costs nothing except authors (volunteer) time. I contributed few pages on polish Wikipedia. My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2007 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci opacony) wynosi 118.064.140 z. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchwa XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
OK, for those who have (rightly) pointed out the problems with LOC as a performance measure: what can we come up with that would be better? Ted mentioned function points. Is there anything else? Measuring stuff is a large part of our job; do we have any worthwhile metrics? Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA:Allocate
I Love Allocate! You can do SO many different things with it. I have never used anything else, except DFSMS which we still have. I can send you some Copybooks that we have and my VDSPROG (ASR) if you want to see it. Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498 gsg [EMAIL PROTECTED] M To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: CA:Allocate 10/03/2007 12:02 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Lucy, How do you like CA-Allocate? What are you using it for? We are looking at it to possibly replace StopX37 and to provide reports on the absolute HWM by HLQ. What were you using before? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: racf
As others have noted, upper case only is the default. If you haven't played with mixed case at all, then you're good to go. Once you've turned on mixed case, however, getting back to upper only requires several steps of back tracking. If you miss any of those steps, some people won't be able to logon at all. BTW remember that once you go mixed case, EVERY application that validates userid and password must be capable of handling mixed case. In our case, CA-TPX was not ready at 1.7 GA and may still not be ready yet. You have to examine every product and every piece of RYO code in your environment. Meanwhile, of course, there's nothing wrong with telling management that z/OS now has this capability. Throw some numbers up in a ppt. Those folks are so easily impressed. ;-) . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carroll, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] To NSURANCE.COM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent by: IBM cc Mainframe Discussion List Subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] racf .EDU 10/03/2007 11:35 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU We are almost ready to go live with zos 1.7. Is there a way to keep racf password upper/lower all Upper like it is under 1.4. Bill Carroll -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe
Howard, Do you have trailingblanks specified? If the mainframe is the client, set it with locsite trailingblanks If the mainframe is the server set it with quote site trailingblanks Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe
NOTICE: All information in and attached to the e-mail(s) below may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. If you are not the sender's intended recipient, you are not authorized to intercept, read, print, retain, copy, forward, or disseminate this message. If you have erroneously received this communication, please notify the sender immediately by phone (704-758-1000) or by e-mail and destroy all copies of this message (electronic, paper, or otherwise). Thank you. By default trailing blanks are usually removed. Have the vendor issue the command QUOTE SITE TRAIL before doing a GET on the file. Larry Gray Large Systems Engineering Lowe's Companies 336-658-7944 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 4:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe I am FTPing a fixed record length file from the mainframe to a Unix box where a vendor has access to pick up that file and FTP it to his machine. I don't know what kind of machine he has, but he's saying that he's missing my space fill for the shorter records. The first thing I verified is that the file does, in fact, have spaces, not low values on the mainframe. Then I tried to find out what the file looks like on the Unix machine. I opened it from my PC using Ultra-Edit, which asked if I wanted to convert it to DOS format. I haven't figured out what this means, so I opened it both ways.Pressing the end key, I go to the last non-blank character in a record, but I have no idea whether that is the last character or not. I'm trying to find out whether the spaces got truncated in my FTP or whether it happened later. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe
You might try the BIN flag before sending it. I'm trying to find out whether the spaces got truncated in my FTP or whether it happened later. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe
There is an FTP TRAILINGBLANKS option that applies to fixed length records. You can change the default setting with the SITE command: quote site trailingblanks IIRC. Bill On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 14:37:47 -0600, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am FTPing a fixed record length file from the mainframe to a Unix box where a vendor has access to pick up that file and FTP it to his machine. I don't know what kind of machine he has, but he's saying that he's missing my space fill for the shorter records. The first thing I verified is that the file does, in fact, have spaces, not low values on the mainframe. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wikipedia?
Wikipedia contains an article on Finnish profanity, including some pages dedicated to specific swear words (in Finnish) with still more links to the same word in Latvian, Polish, Lithuanian, Prussian, and Slovenian. On a scale of cat to obscurity*infinity-1, MVS related pages fit in quite nicely, IMHO. (-: BTW, the cat article is excellent. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: 3. lokakuuta 2007 23:34 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Wikipedia? Martin Packer wrote: Does anyone else following this list contribute to the mainframe-related pages on Wikipedia? For instance, I just added the page for Unit Control Block, pointed to by the disambiguation page for UCB. Wikipedia might not be the right forum for such material (and I'd be the first to admit that UCB is probably an obscure thing to write about but you have to if you want to stand a chance of describing PAV and HyperPAV properly). Opinions? Good idea! This is one of ways to popularize mainframe knowledge. It costs nothing except authors (volunteer) time. I contributed few pages on polish Wikipedia. My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Migration from z900 to z9
Next weekend we are swaping out a z900 to a z9 processor. One of the lpars that are being moved to the new processor is running several unsupported ISV products under zOS 1.7. Can someone list the changes in the z9 architecture whish might have an adverse effect on these applications? I don't know offhand if they run authorized or not. Mark Jacobs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe
Were you sending the file to the mainframe or from the mainframe? If you were sending to the mainframe you would have to provide the DCB information using the QUOTE SITE COMMAND to reflect record size (i.e. recl=80) record format (i.e. recfm=f). Regards, Michael J Flores Triumph Performance and Technical Architecture Office#: 602.537.7511 cell 801 608-0270 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Johnson, Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 10/03/2007 02:15 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe You might try the BIN flag before sending it. I'm trying to find out whether the spaces got truncated in my FTP or whether it happened later. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html American Express made the following annotations on Wed Oct 03 2007 14:52:53 -- This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you. American Express a ajouté le commentaire suivant le Wed Oct 03 2007 14:52:53 Ce courrier et toute pièce jointe qu'il contient sont réservés au seul destinataire indiqué et peuvent renfermer des renseignements confidentiels et privilégiés. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, toute divulgation, duplication, utilisation ou distribution du courrier ou de toute pièce jointe est interdite. Si vous avez reçu cette communication par erreur, veuillez nous en aviser par courrier et détruire immédiatement le courrier et les pièces jointes. Merci. ** --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe
Try adding the statement: TrailingBlanks True; to your TCPIP.FTP.DATA, or specify LOCSITE TrailingBlanks in your FTP's INPUT statements. NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 10/03/2007 01:37 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject [IBM-MAIN] FTP of fixed file off the mainframe I am FTPing a fixed record length file from the mainframe to a Unix box where a vendor has access to pick up that file and FTP it to his machine. I don't know what kind of machine he has, but he's saying that he's missing my space fill for the shorter records. The first thing I verified is that the file does, in fact, have spaces, not low values on the mainframe. Then I tried to find out what the file looks like on the Unix machine. I opened it from my PC using Ultra-Edit, which asked if I wanted to convert it to DOS format. I haven't figured out what this means, so I opened it both ways.Pressing the end key, I go to the last non-blank character in a record, but I have no idea whether that is the last character or not. I'm trying to find out whether the spaces got truncated in my FTP or whether it happened later. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
C++ programs on the Mainframe (PDSE?)
During installation of some software, I received object code in two formats (PDS PDSE). I beleive the objects in the PDSE are C++ programs (there's DLL in the member names). To eliminate/reduce CICS outages is there a way to combine the objects from the PDSE library to the PDS library. The PDS library already exist for the CICS regions. I tried various methods (iebcopy, tso receive fileaide utility) and I couldn't merge the PDSE members into the PDS. I saw previous releases of this software with these type of objects in PDS format. What would be the reason for putting these C++ programs in this way? Is it for size and the unlimited space provided by PDSE? Regards, Michael J Flores Triumph Performance and Technical Architecture Office#: 602.537.7511 cell 801 608-0270 [EMAIL PROTECTED] American Express made the following annotations on Wed Oct 03 2007 15:11:08 -- This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you. American Express a ajouté le commentaire suivant le Wed Oct 03 2007 15:11:08 Ce courrier et toute pièce jointe qu'il contient sont réservés au seul destinataire indiqué et peuvent renfermer des renseignements confidentiels et privilégiés. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, toute divulgation, duplication, utilisation ou distribution du courrier ou de toute pièce jointe est interdite. Si vous avez reçu cette communication par erreur, veuillez nous en aviser par courrier et détruire immédiatement le courrier et les pièces jointes. Merci. ** --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: C++ programs on the Mainframe (PDSE?)
The short answer, you can't copy objects from a PDS/E to a PDS Load Module Library. The longer answer: In order to build a C++ DLL, the binder cannot build a load module, instead it needs to build a program object. While a load module can exist in a PDS or a PDS/E, a program object MUST reside in a PDS/E. The reasons for this are numerous, but not all externally documented. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael J Flores Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 4:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: C++ programs on the Mainframe (PDSE?) During installation of some software, I received object code in two formats (PDS PDSE). I beleive the objects in the PDSE are C++ programs (there's DLL in the member names). To eliminate/reduce CICS outages is there a way to combine the objects from the PDSE library to the PDS library. The PDS library already exist for the CICS regions. I tried various methods (iebcopy, tso receive fileaide utility) and I couldn't merge the PDSE members into the PDS. I saw previous releases of this software with these type of objects in PDS format. What would be the reason for putting these C++ programs in this way? Is it for size and the unlimited space provided by PDSE? Regards, Michael J Flores Triumph Performance and Technical Architecture Office#: 602.537.7511 cell 801 608-0270 [EMAIL PROTECTED] American Express made the following annotations on Wed Oct 03 2007 15:11:08 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM Sales Manual
Hello Until some time ago I had access to IBM Sales Manual at following link: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/redirect/redirect.html?buttonpressed=DET001PT099timestamp=99DET001PGL002=DET001PEF012appname=IBMLinkRedirect But now I get a Sorry Screen Anyone can tell me where I can found IBM Sales Manual link? Thanks in advance Carlos -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
(fwd) Creating a full file test environment
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:10:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main bwstorts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are planning a full file test environment to better test our applications. Currently, our testing happens on our production lpar with very small vsam and DB2 files. We plan on mirroring our application data to a test lpar and doing our development and testing there. We expect to refresh the data from production once a month. I'm asking for some input on how others handle the need to fully test their applications. some example questions: 1) do you use full files, and if so, how do you populate them? 2) how do you protect production from test work (people logging into the wrong lpar, sending test print to production printers, etc.)? 3) any advice? Consider security. Depending on the country your organization is affected by various acts such as HIPPA in the United States (Health information privacy) and PIPEDA in Canada (privacy act). There is sensitive data in those files. Will it be masked? Will the test system be accessible from the Internet? What can people download to their PC's? How strictly controlled will the access be? Will this test LPAR also be used to allow the using departments to test their data changes? Should there be a separate LPAR with its set of files/tables for this purpose and how will access be controlled? Clark Morris semi-retired systems programmer and applications consultant. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: C++ programs on the Mainframe (PDSE?)
Thanks Wayne, So evidently the current environment is not utilizing the DLL feature, since the load is available without the program object. Thanks again. Regards, Michael J Flores Triumph Performance and Technical Architecture Office#: 602.537.7511 cell 801 608-0270 [EMAIL PROTECTED] American Express made the following annotations on Wed Oct 03 2007 16:34:28 -- This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you. American Express a ajouté le commentaire suivant le Wed Oct 03 2007 16:34:28 Ce courrier et toute pièce jointe qu'il contient sont réservés au seul destinataire indiqué et peuvent renfermer des renseignements confidentiels et privilégiés. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, toute divulgation, duplication, utilisation ou distribution du courrier ou de toute pièce jointe est interdite. Si vous avez reçu cette communication par erreur, veuillez nous en aviser par courrier et détruire immédiatement le courrier et les pièces jointes. Merci. ** --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Peer-to-Peer VTS and IBM ATL Specialist
Hi Kees, Thanks for your reply, and yes, I mean Peer-to-Peer using B20's and not the TS7700 grid scenario. Without going into too much depth on the commercial trauma, the infrastructure has been literally 'sitting around' for more than 12- months. In case extra info is good in any case: We are using deferred copy and have defined a threshold of 2 hours. We have APM enabled, but are not using any of the features yet. Copies appear to be completing within the two hour timeframe (2 hours). It is more the delay that seems to impact some volumes that is causing me to wonder...and the mismatch between the ATL Specialist and OAM. The affected volumes appear to be both multivolume sets and single volumes files. Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
Jon, I have little confidence that a realistic performance metric can be devised other than on a case by case basis. There are simply too many variables to be considered. For example, consider the differences in complexity between a RACF security exit and a CICS task related user exit. Each requires specialized experience and skills. Can we really feel comfortable applying a single performance metric to such disparate situations. John P Baker Software Engineer HFD Technologies -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 16:44 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code OK, for those who have (rightly) pointed out the problems with LOC as a performance measure: what can we come up with that would be better? Ted mentioned function points. Is there anything else? Measuring stuff is a large part of our job; do we have any worthwhile metrics? Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System REXX for z/OS R8 Web Deliverable - Fixed!
Marna: Thought I'll go ahead and ask, but I have the idea you will say NO--just like someone said NO for SDSF REXX support so Does the V1R8 web SYSREXX deliverable also support REXX checks in V1R8 Health Checker? George Fogg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marna WALLE Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: System REXX for z/OS R8 Web Deliverable - Fixed! The problem that Brian mentioned (the wrong ++IF REQ logic) has been corrected, and the System REXX Web deliverable was refreshed yesterday (Sunday, September 30 2007). For all that are interested in having System REXX on z/OS R8, you can retrieve the fixed Web deliverable now. fyi: If you want to verify that you've got the corrected level of the Web deliverable, the updated SMPMCS for HBB77SR has a rework date of 2007271: ++FUNCTION(HBB77SR) REWORK(2007271) -Marna WALLE z/OS System Build and Install IBM Poughkeepsie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Sales Manual
Carlos, could it be this one you are looking for ? http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss Birger Heede IBM Denmark Carlos A. Bodra wrote: Hello Until some time ago I had access to IBM Sales Manual at following link: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/redirect/redirect.html?buttonpressed=DET001PT099timestamp=99DET001PGL002=DET001PEF012appname=IBMLinkRedirect But now I get a Sorry Screen Anyone can tell me where I can found IBM Sales Manual link? Thanks in advance Carlos -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wikipedia?
Good morning Paul, If you are quite sure there are things wrong and you don't feel comfortable fixing them, then you can always make the suggestion on the Discussion page, hoping the original author or someone else fixes it. As for the z/VM person about whom you spoke, I believe you are talking about Alan Altmark. Regards, Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 4. lokakuuta 2007 2:51 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Wikipedia? Only this morning, in response to a question I asked on another list about desktop virtualization, someone posted a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines Curious, I looked for z/VM. Present, but may need refinement. The article consists of two spreadsheets. It appears that in the first spreadsheet in the row for z/VM the cells for Host CPU and Guest CPU are swapped. And can z/VM with SIE virtualize predecessor mainframe architecture? s/390? ESA? Other? Is z/Architecture the term of choice? In the second spreadsheet, the row for z/VM is quite blank. I'd suggest: o Can boot an OS on another disk partition as guest: Yes (Footnote: considering a minidisk as a partition.) o USB: No. o GUI: No. o Live memory allocation: WTF? o 3D acceleration: No. But I'll leave it to someone with better knowledge than I to perform the actual editing if anyone volunteers. Who's the IBM employee who so enthusiastically praises VM as a server platform regularly on this list? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
