Re: IBM Press Release: New Mainframe Customer in Korea

2009-12-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
I would never automatically assume that consolidation equals Linux on
System z. Consolidation to z/OS is also quite popular. Or, said another
way, if you're a new z/OS customer then by definition (and automatically)
you're probably enjoying huge consolidation benefits. We sometimes forget
that and/or take it for granted.

I don't know exactly how many frames BC Card is installing, but I can make
a safe bet: to support the same (or more) workloads it'll be far fewer
machines. This is z/OS we're talking about here, and you just don't need
many machines. A couple (in Parallel Sysplex) at the primary site plus one
at the DR site is a very nice installation indeed -- and can grow to be
enormous (in workload terms) without increasing the machine count.

For some background reading, here's an article I wrote entitled "How Many
Mainframes Do You Need?"

http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2009/03/how-many-mainframes-do-you-need.html

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-24 Thread David Crayford

You can't use the pre-linker with GOFF.

If I were you I would ditch the pre-linker. It's functionally stabalized 
 and the binder does everything you need and more. Only use the 
pre-linker if you want to use load modules in a PDS.


Steve Austin wrote:

Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker; it
does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
statements.

Steve

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:>Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD
names?
:>The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case.


Look at the assembler ALIAS statement.

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Re: JES SPOOL "quota" by user?

2009-12-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
I would print it for him and deliver the hardcopy in a Santa outfit...

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> One of the things that SyzSpool was written to handle is situation like
> this.  SyzSpool allows you to manage the spool and it's very inexpensive.
> You can set up the rules to handle "individuals" like this and have their
> data be maintained (off the spool) to any age that you want it to be kept,
> since the data is off the spool volume(s) and compressed, (or on tape if
it
> has reached the migration age), the user can't tie things up.
> 
> On the user's side, they have complete access to their data via ISPF or
the
> Web interface.
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Re: Movin' on Up!

2009-12-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>>Ugly smog, but beautiful baech. Do you surf ? 

>The smog is nearly gone in L.A. When I first moved here, Stage I Health 
Alerts issued by AQMD were all too common

I haven't been to LA since the late 1960's.
The smog was miserable then, mostly due to the cars and the still air in the 
basin.
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Re: PSF z/OS from VSE

2009-12-24 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Thanks Howard.
Wanted to make sure I wasn't going the "long way" unnecessarily.
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On 12/23/2009 at 11:25 PM, in message
, Howard Turetzky
 wrote:
> You are correct in that z/OS has no equivalent to stored attributes. The all 
> must appear on 
> the // OUTPUT statement.
> 
> See 
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss? 
> rs=95&context=SRNPYM&dc=D400&q1=psd1*&q2=vseres&uid=psd1P4000210&loc=en_US&cs=
> utf-8&lang=en
> for my vseres tool that will decode the FNO module into an // OUTPUT 
> statement.
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Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

2009-12-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I want some of what they're smokin'.

That'd get you into trouble in most of the Western World. (8-{]}


>It's either full, or it's not and there
is no performance difference that I ever heard of.

Same here, and I've been using them since they first came out.

>Actually, if you could measure it, perhaps a (grossly) over-allocated VTOCIX 
>would probably perform worse.

I doubt it, since it is indexed -- one of the reasons it performs better than 
any old VTOC.

>Are you sure it wasn't a disabled VTOCIX?

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Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

2009-12-24 Thread John Dawes
To confirm the VTOC was inabled.  This was verified via ISMF.

--- On Fri, 25/12/09, Mark Zelden  wrote:


From: Mark Zelden 
Subject: Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD
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Received: Friday, 25 December, 2009, 2:49 AM


I want some of what they're smokin'.    It's either full, or it's not and there
is no performance difference that I ever heard of.  Actually, if you 
could measure it, perhaps a (grossly) over-allocated VTOCIX would 
probably perform worse.

Are you sure it wasn't a disabled VTOCIX?

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:40:17 -0800, John Dawes  wrote:

>Barry,
> 
>Our Capacity performance group said that the slow response time for some
volumes was caused by the small VTOCIX.  The suggestion was made to increase
it. 
>
>--- On Wed, 23/12/09, Schwarz, Barry A  wrote:
>
>
>From: Schwarz, Barry A 
>Subject: Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD
>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>Received: Wednesday, 23 December, 2009, 6:41 AM
>
>
>I assume you meant the size of the VTOCIX dataset and not the size of the
VIR in the dataset.
>
>The job matches what I use (except I don't include the VTOCIX DSN in the
first step).
>
>But what makes you think the VTOCIX is undersized?  The CVAFDSM macro will
tell you how many VIRs are still available in the dataset.
>
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>Subject: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD
>
>Good Evening To All,
>
>We have noticed that some of the VIRs on several volumes are very small. 
We would like to increase the size.  I am not sure if I am on the right
track this is why I need your help.
>
>The VIR exsists on the volume and in order to increase the size I will need
to purge it and reallocate it.  Below are the 2 jobs I would like to use. 
Would they work?  Is there another way of going about it?  I would welcome
your suggestions.
>
>Job to delete the VTOCIX
>
>//STEP1 EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=3M
>//MYVOL DD  UNIT=(3390,,DEFER),VOL=SER=PROD21,
>//          DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD21,DISP=SHR
>//SYSIN     DD *
>//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
>//SYSIN DD  *
>BUILDIX DDNAME(MYVOL) OSVTOC PURGE
>/*
>Job to build the VTOCIX
>
>/*
>//STEP01   EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=4M,PARM='NOREPLYU'
>//PROD21   DD DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD21,UNIT=SYSALLDA,
>//      VOL=SER=PROD21,DISP=NEW,SPACE=(CYL,(2))
>//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
>//SYSIN DD *
>  BUILDIX  IXVTOC,DDNAME(PROD21)
>/*
>//
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Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

2009-12-24 Thread John Dawes
Scott,
 
Thanks for the tip.  I will pose the question.

--- On Fri, 25/12/09, Scott Rowe  wrote:


From: Scott Rowe 
Subject: Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD
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John,

I have never heard of such a thing, and I think they are confused.  As long as 
the VTOCIX is not full (or nearly so), I see no reason to expand it.  I would 
ask them to show you some reference that backs up their performance claim.

>>> John Dawes  12/24/2009 8:40 AM >>>
Barry,

Our Capacity performance group said that the slow response time for some 
volumes was caused by the small VTOCIX.  The suggestion was made to increase 
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Re: Movin' on Up!

2009-12-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Thanks to everyone for the well-wishes. Some specific answers to 
specific questions:


George Fogg wrote:

http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/newlocation.htm



Nice digs, you get that nice corner office?
  


My boss gets the corner. Mine is nice though...

Gabriel Tully wrote:


Those beams on your raised floor seem odd.  Were they placed like that 
for aesthetics or are they actually structural?  They seem to take up 
some unnecessary real estate.


Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
... I'm little worried about that green diagonal 
beams in that computer room, you'll need a hard hat to avoid headaches... ;-D
  


Those beams are structural. I assume you're supposed to hide them inside 
a wall.


My boss wanted to put the computer room in the exact center of the 
building. I'm not sure why those diagonal beams did not cause him to 
rethink that plan. There might have been other factors that forced him 
into the present layout.


I agree they are a hazard--and a PITA. (I kept having to avoid them when 
doing some wiring yesterday.) Someone is supposed to install some kind 
of tape rack and/or guard rails to make them more useful and prevent 
people running into them.


I don't think hitting your head on a beam in the computer room is what 
they had in mind when the phrase "lights out computer operation" was 
coined. ;)


Mark Zelden wrote:

Does your current equipment reside at the old location and is it moving,
or is it already in the new location?  Or is there some "duplicate" equipment
staged at the new location for the move like the "big boys" do? 
  


We did the move yesterday. We don't have duplicate equipment. The z10, 
DASD, tape and every thing else were powered down in the old space 
starting around 2 PM on Tuesday. They were then packed up, moved, and 
placed in the new computer room. That day ended around 11:30 PM. 8 AM 
Wednesday we started pulling cables in the new space. By 1 PM we started 
powering everything up. I got out of there around 7 PM and finished some 
IPLs and other things from home. I declared us fully operational at 9 
PM. Since about a week prior to the move, our web and email has been 
hosted in our Tulsa, OK office.


Chris Craddock wrote:

Cool. How's the noise level there?

  


I assume that question arises from our close proximity to LAX.

Planes fly in/out of LAX in one direction: West. The (noisier) take-off 
flight path is over the ocean.


Our old location was rented space on the 8th floor in the building at 
5200 W. Century Blvd at La Cienega Blvd. Prior to that we rented at 9841 
Airport Blvd at Century Blvd and prior to that at 5933 W. Century Blvd. 
All three of those locations were directly in the (quieter) landing 
flight path along Century Blvd just a couple/few blocks East of the 
airport. Even so, we never heard much unless a plane got really close. 
All the buildings in the area have excellent soundproofing.


It was kinda' neat to be able to watch planes land from the window of my 
office... I'll miss that.


Our new space is South of LAX and no longer in any flight path. During 
yesterday's move, I heard no airport noise at all.


Schwarz, Barry A wrote:

Was the absence of chairs in the conference room deliberate to keep meetings 
from running to long?  (Since most executives seem to prefer chairs with 
wheels, I expect the obvious adjustment.)

I am surprised there is no sign or other identification.  Most companies seem 
to want there name in lights.

  


There are chairs in the conference room now. They do have wheels. :) Our 
trademarked "P" logo is proudly displayed behind the receptionist's 
desk. I'm not sure if we plan to put signage on the outside of the 
building. I certainly hope so. We had it on the old building, and we 
were only renting there...


Ganesh Rao wrote:

Ed, isn't that close to where Candle used to have one of their office in early 
2001?
  


I remember Candle had an El Segundo address for a while. I have no idea 
where that was.


Our new building is brand new construction in an area called the Edge at 
Campus El Segundo http://www.edgeatcampuselsegundo.com/  Many satellite 
and aerial views from the popular mapping services still show a big, 
empty plot of land. Some of them don't even show Parkview Drive North 
yet... I'll wait a while before I upgrade the GPS maps in my car. :)


R.S. wrote:
BTW: I was some time ago in the neighbourhood. Ugly smog, but 
beautiful baech. Do you surf ? 


The smog is nearly gone in L.A. When I first moved here, Stage I Health 
Alerts issued by AQMD were all too common: 84 in 1983, 97 in 1984, 83 in 
1985, and so on. We've had only one in the past 11 years. 
http://www.aqmd.gov/smog/o3trend.html


The beaches are still nice. I've never been much of a surfer. My other 
gig was playing rock music...


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Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

2009-12-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:58:56 -0700, Lester, Bob
 wrote:

>Hi Mark,
>
>Indeed it does.  We have a report distribution system on our
>mainframe.  It creates thousands of very small ESDS files.  We were
>constantly filling up VTOC, VTOCIX, and extending like crazy on the
>VVDS.
>
>We ended up using very large values for these volumes.
>
> INIT UNIT(465E) NOCHECK PURGE VERIFY(HT465E) VOLID(CLDH60) -
>  VTOC(0,1,1200) INDEX(81,1,180) STORAGEGROUP
>
>DEFINE CLUSTER(   -
>   NAME(SYS1.VVDS.VCLDH60) -
>   VOLUMES(CLDH60) -
>   NONINDEXED -
>   CYLINDERS(30 5))
>
>This solves the issue, but performance isn't great.
>
>Just FWIW.
>
>BobL
>

It it an apples to apples comparison?  In other words, if there are only
100 files on the volume with a smaller VTOCIX vs a 180 track VTOCIX
(which isn't that large), how much slower is it to locate a specific
data set?  Or if you increase the VTOCIX from 180 tracks to 300 tracks
can you notice or measure the difference?   I'm sure with thousands of
ESDS files the performance isn't great, but I don't think it's "due to a large 
VTOCIX".   You also added some other parameters into the equation here
since you have a very large VVDS and are talking about VSAM  - the Very 
Slow Access Method.  :-)

But as a disclaimer, I will state that I have never done any of my own
studies on this nor looked into it (any CMG folks out there who know of
specific studies?).

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Re: CA MSM

2009-12-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:44:15 -0500, Mark Jacobs 
wrote:

>>
>
>I don't have any philosophical objections making day to day work easier,
>in fact that's one of my main goals in my professional career. The
>problem with all these gee-whiz tools is that they remove/eliminate the
>need for understanding the way things work under the covers. As system
>programmers we have to know the nuts and bolts of the environments we
>support else when things break (and they always will) they can't be
>fixed by using your own personal experience and knowledge.
>
>Look at the personal computer environment as an example. If an automated
>install process fails at the best it will automatically back itself out,
>at the worst your system is dead. Do we want our environments to even
>more dependent on vendors fixing all our problems?
>
>These tools are another attempt to dumb down the system programmer work
>force and allow management to say to themselves why do I need an
>expensive system programmer when I can get a button pusher who can click
>an icon on a screen for far less money.
>

Mark,

I sort of agree, but I don't think it applies in this specific case.   There can
and will be problems with installs related to this software, and it will still
take an experienced or knowledgeable sysprog to look at the details (output)
generated to figure out what is wrong.   I don't see that as being any different
than any other problem "I" end up looking at to resolve because someone
with less experience or knowledge couldn't figure it out.   This just makes
it easier for the inexperienced sysprog *and* the experienced one.   From all
the "playing" I have been doing the last couple of weeks, I do understand
what is going on under the covers, so that would enable me ("the senior 
sysprog") to help a junior sysprog or someone else.  

"We" (as a sysprog community) already rely heavily on vendors to help us
to fix problems with their software.  Of course to varying degrees depending
on the complexity of the software and the problem, but I'm sure there isn't
a single sysprog out there who hasn't contacted a vendor at one point or
another for help on a problem with every product they run / use / support.
How many MVS sysprogs out there understand Datacom enough to fix
Datacom problems with CA-11 or JOBTRAC or IDMS issues with Dispatch 
(BTW, I've supported Dispatch at various shop / clients for 20 years and
when there was an "IDMS" issue I needed to contact CA about, they've
been able to provide timely assistance). 

And before you trash CA for making things "complicated", by trying
to enhance their software to run 24 x 7, our "experienced" z/OS 
WebSphere sysprogs (been using it here since component broker) end up
on the phone with IBM or opening PMRs for assistance for problems / issues
practically on a daily basis (at least it seems that way).  Operating systems 
and software today are more complicated than they used to be - at least
under the covers. And the more that there is under the covers, the more 
an expert / vendor will be needed to help when things go wrong.   I don't 
see that changing.

Be open to change.  Adapt or become extinct.  Unfortunately, it's probably
too late for the mainframe already, but at least there are some out there
who believe it isn't and are trying to change it regardless.  I for one 
really hope they succeed. 

Cheers,

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Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

2009-12-24 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi Mark,

Indeed it does.  We have a report distribution system on our
mainframe.  It creates thousands of very small ESDS files.  We were
constantly filling up VTOC, VTOCIX, and extending like crazy on the
VVDS.

We ended up using very large values for these volumes.

 INIT UNIT(465E) NOCHECK PURGE VERIFY(HT465E) VOLID(CLDH60) - 
  VTOC(0,1,1200) INDEX(81,1,180) STORAGEGROUP 

DEFINE CLUSTER(   -   
   NAME(SYS1.VVDS.VCLDH60) -  
   VOLUMES(CLDH60) -  
   NONINDEXED -   
   CYLINDERS(30 5))   

This solves the issue, but performance isn't great.

Just FWIW.

BobL  


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I want some of what they're smokin'.It's either full, or it's not
and there
is no performance difference that I ever heard of.  Actually, if you 
could measure it, perhaps a (grossly) over-allocated VTOCIX would 
probably perform worse.


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Re: CA MSM

2009-12-24 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:44 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: CA MSM
> 

> 
> I don't have any philosophical objections making day to day 
> work easier, 
> in fact that's one of my main goals in my professional career. The 
> problem with all these gee-whiz tools is that they 
> remove/eliminate the 
> need for understanding the way things work under the covers. 
> As system 
> programmers we have to know the nuts and bolts of the environments we 
> support else when things break (and they always will) they can't be 
> fixed by using your own personal experience and knowledge.
> 
> Look at the personal computer environment as an example. If 
> an automated 
> install process fails at the best it will automatically back 
> itself out, 
> at the worst your system is dead. Do we want our environments to even 
> more dependent on vendors fixing all our problems?
> 
> These tools are another attempt to dumb down the system 
> programmer work 
> force and allow management to say to themselves why do I need an 
> expensive system programmer when I can get a button pusher 
> who can click 
> an icon on a screen for far less money.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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The entire point of IT and automation is to remove the need for non-vendor 
companies to have any technical expertise. I.e. to "dumb down" the workforce. 
This is a plus to companies, in general, as it allows them to hire cheaper 
labor who become productive in a shorter period of time. Again, this is a plus 
because it means that people are easily replaceable and interchangeable. How 
many jobs have computers eliminated? How many accountants does a company need 
now as opposed to 30 years ago? How many file clerks? Eventually, there will be 
no need for any non-management people. That is "company nirvana".

Not that I like it.

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Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

2009-12-24 Thread Mark Zelden
I want some of what they're smokin'.It's either full, or it's not and there
is no performance difference that I ever heard of.  Actually, if you 
could measure it, perhaps a (grossly) over-allocated VTOCIX would 
probably perform worse.

Are you sure it wasn't a disabled VTOCIX?

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:40:17 -0800, John Dawes  wrote:

>Barry,
> 
>Our Capacity performance group said that the slow response time for some
volumes was caused by the small VTOCIX.  The suggestion was made to increase
it. 
>
>--- On Wed, 23/12/09, Schwarz, Barry A  wrote:
>
>
>From: Schwarz, Barry A 
>Subject: Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD
>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>Received: Wednesday, 23 December, 2009, 6:41 AM
>
>
>I assume you meant the size of the VTOCIX dataset and not the size of the
VIR in the dataset.
>
>The job matches what I use (except I don't include the VTOCIX DSN in the
first step).
>
>But what makes you think the VTOCIX is undersized?  The CVAFDSM macro will
tell you how many VIRs are still available in the dataset.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of John Dawes
>Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:04 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>Subject: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD
>
>Good Evening To All,
>
>We have noticed that some of the VIRs on several volumes are very small. 
We would like to increase the size.  I am not sure if I am on the right
track this is why I need your help.
>
>The VIR exsists on the volume and in order to increase the size I will need
to purge it and reallocate it.  Below are the 2 jobs I would like to use. 
Would they work?  Is there another way of going about it?  I would welcome
your suggestions.
>
>Job to delete the VTOCIX
>
>//STEP1 EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=3M
>//MYVOL DD  UNIT=(3390,,DEFER),VOL=SER=PROD21,
>//          DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD21,DISP=SHR
>//SYSIN     DD *
>//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
>//SYSIN DD  *
>BUILDIX DDNAME(MYVOL) OSVTOC PURGE
>/*
>Job to build the VTOCIX
>
>/*
>//STEP01   EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=4M,PARM='NOREPLYU'
>//PROD21   DD DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD21,UNIT=SYSALLDA,
>//      VOL=SER=PROD21,DISP=NEW,SPACE=(CYL,(2))
>//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
>//SYSIN DD *
>  BUILDIX  IXVTOC,DDNAME(PROD21)
>/*
>//
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Re: CA MSM

2009-12-24 Thread Mark Jacobs

On 12/24/09 10:24, Mark Zelden wrote:

Another kudos to CA from me...

(Note:   I have been playing with MSM a lot on a sandbox LPAR / sysplex
and plan on "thowing away" what I am doing now and re-installing in
a different LPAR early next year.)

MSM is s cool.  This morning I received notice that MIM 11.7 SP1 was
GA and available.   With a few mouse clicks I downloaded it, deleted
SP0 (which I had installed for the "team demo" I did last week but wasn't in
use) and installed SP1 all before I finished my cup of coffee.

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I don't have any philosophical objections making day to day work easier, 
in fact that's one of my main goals in my professional career. The 
problem with all these gee-whiz tools is that they remove/eliminate the 
need for understanding the way things work under the covers. As system 
programmers we have to know the nuts and bolts of the environments we 
support else when things break (and they always will) they can't be 
fixed by using your own personal experience and knowledge.


Look at the personal computer environment as an example. If an automated 
install process fails at the best it will automatically back itself out, 
at the worst your system is dead. Do we want our environments to even 
more dependent on vendors fixing all our problems?


These tools are another attempt to dumb down the system programmer work 
force and allow management to say to themselves why do I need an 
expensive system programmer when I can get a button pusher who can click 
an icon on a screen for far less money.




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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-24 Thread Thomas David Rivers

Steve Austin wrote:

Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker; it
does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
statements.

Steve




Steve,

  When you say "pick up" - what do you mean?

  And, which pre-linker is this?

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-24 Thread Thomas David Rivers

Hi Steve,

 Use the ALIAS command to get precisely the letter's you'd like
 in the ESD name.

 For example:

   NAME ALIAS C'name'
   NAME CSECT
END

 creates a csect that has the letters "name" in the object deck.

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Steve Austin wrote:

Hello,

 


Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD names?
The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case.  

 


Thanks

 

Steve  



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Re: CA MSM

2009-12-24 Thread Mark Zelden
Another kudos to CA from me...

(Note:   I have been playing with MSM a lot on a sandbox LPAR / sysplex
and plan on "thowing away" what I am doing now and re-installing in
a different LPAR early next year.)

MSM is s cool.  This morning I received notice that MIM 11.7 SP1 was
GA and available.   With a few mouse clicks I downloaded it, deleted
SP0 (which I had installed for the "team demo" I did last week but wasn't in
use) and installed SP1 all before I finished my cup of coffee.  

Mark
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:37:48 +, Norman Hollander
 wrote:

>Just a correction to a badly typed reply to this thread earlier this week;
>
>CA Mainframe Software Manager does NOT need any additional servers;
>it runs completely on z/OS. Thanks for your good words. I do work for
>CA (but you all know that).
>
>znor...@ca.com
>-Original Message-
>From: Mark Zelden [mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2009 04:39 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>Subject: Re: CA MSM
>

>>>You are entitled to your opinion and you don't have to use it.  I assume it
>>>will always remain optional to use it or not.   I see it as being a big time
>>>saver for me and my fellow workers that know how to download files,
>>>allocate data sets, and run SMP/E.   So it is a good thing for experienced
>>>sysprogs as well as inexperienced ones.   I can install a HIPER PTF into my
>>>maintenance environment with the click of a mouse in a minute instead
>>>of having to go out to CA's web site, download the file to my workstation,
>>>upload to z/OS, then run SMP/E RECEIVE and APPLY.
>>>
>>I'm missing something.  If you have suitable Internet connectivity,
>>can't you run RECEIVE FROMNETWORK or RECEIVE ORDER without first
>>downloading/uploading the PTF?  If you lack such connectivity, I
>>don't see how you can avoid the download/upload.  Or does MSM
>>somewhat automate the process, perhaps to hide it completely?
>>
>
>Currently, as far as I know, only IBM supports the functions provided
>by RECEIVE FROMNETWORK or RECEIVE ORDER.
>
>MSM does it a little different.  It automates the manual process (the
>newer CA ESD process that is all disk, no "install tape") that is used
>to install their products.  With that process you could FTP directly to
>your z/OS system if you wanted (initiate FTP "GET" from z/OS) but typically,
>you go to the ca support site via web browser to download the product
>and "click on it", so it goes to your workstation and then you have to
>upload the pax files or binary file (SMPMCS data) to z/OS.
>
>Basically, MSM FTPs pax files in gimunzip format directly to your HFS / zFS
>from CA and stores them there.   When you "install" a product or
>PTF, it allocates data sets if needed (base product install... CSIs, tgt /
>dlibs,
>etc.) needed), unwinds (is unpax more correct term?) the pax file and
>does the SMP/E RECEIVE, APPLY and ACCEPT.
>
>Last night I started the process to download 2 products before I went home.
>Today, I installed them both in less than 15 minutes.  One of them included
>a HFS / zFS file (I chose zFS) needed as one of the targets.  As part
>of the install process mentioned above, MSM was able to create the zFS,
>format it, create my service directory and mount the zFS file system so
>it was there for the APPLY.
>
>BTW, I had a little experience in the install part from the technology exchange
>at SHARE in Denver where I went through the process of installing a product
>and some PTFs myself.
>
>Oh, and I deleted the products (not the downloaded "catalog" files that
>are used for install) so I could repeat the process.  That takes a minute or
>two.   I plan on demo-ing MSM from my team in the next week or so and
>I am just trying to learn more about the functions at the moment.
>
>I'll be really happy when they add the deployment feature  (being able
>to copy the "run libs" from the SMP/E environment  to a new HLQ / volume)
>next year.   The process seems to fit in with the way we install
>our software in the operating system group.  We "deploy" ISV software
>to a secondary sysres volume with indirect cataloging.  So I hope there
>is an option to copy without cataloging (which is what we do and then
>the indirect cataloging is a one time process unless a library name
>changes / is added for a new release).
>
>p.s.  I don't work for CA.  :-)
>
>Mark
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Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

2009-12-24 Thread Scott Rowe
John,
 
I have never heard of such a thing, and I think they are confused.  As long as 
the VTOCIX is not full (or nearly so), I see no reason to expand it.  I would 
ask them to show you some reference that backs up their performance claim.

>>> John Dawes  12/24/2009 8:40 AM >>>
Barry,

Our Capacity performance group said that the slow response time for some 
volumes was caused by the small VTOCIX.  The suggestion was made to increase 
it. 



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Accessing the SPOOL via a UNIX filesystem protocol?

2009-12-24 Thread McKown, John
This is just a curiousity question about any interest in a possible product. 
Not that I'm in the business (or capable) of writing such.

I would love a product which somehow maps the z/OS SPOOL (JES2 and/or JES3) 
into the UNIX filesystem. Basically, this would be so that I could retrieve 
sysout data using standard UNIX tools. For example, to be able to do an 
obrowse, oedit or some other list/editor on a sysout. Or use a UNIX command 
such as "cp" or "cat" or "grep" or ... with the input coming from a sysout. Oh, 
and by sysout I mean either an entire job or by a particular DSID. Example:

fgrep 'S0C3' /spool/? #find all S0C3 abends in the SYSLOG

cat /spool/JOBNAME/jobnumber/DSID >output.file

If there is any interest, how much should such a thing cost? Say, about like 
SDSF or EJES? I don't doubt that Ed Jaffe could write such a thing, if there is 
a market.

And how about an add-on to this so that it could be used, like NFS, over a 
TCPIP connection to another NFS-capable system (like UNIX or Linux or even 
Windows)?

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Re: Anyone have a clue on this EDC5057I The open mode string was invalid?

2009-12-24 Thread Charles Mills
Thank you and also the person who responded off-line.

Yup, "rb" fixes it.

Gosh, the doc could be better. You're right, that's what it says. Do they
gain some kind of points by not adding "therefore you must code a mode that
explicitly requests binary"? What about an error message that actually said
which two things were in conflict? Believe me, I read what I thought was
every word about record I/O in the P/G and did not see that. Unfortunately,
I had started with Chapter 3, "The Record Model for C I/O" which says
nothing about modes.

Charles

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invalid?

Try "rb,type=record". It might fix your problem.

According to this page of the C/C++ Programming Guide:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/CBCPG190/2.1.1.3

"C/C++ record I/O is binary"

Record I/O is what "type=record" is requesting, which probably goes 
without saying.

Bill

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:47:38 -0500, Charles Mills wrote:

>The open mode string, displayed just before the call to fopen(), is "r,
>type=record".
>
>The doc mentions making sure the DISP is compatible - it's DISP=
(SHR,KEEP).
>
>Yes, the dataset exists.
>
>Anyone have any clues?
>
>TIA

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PSF z/OS from VSE

2009-12-24 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
"IBM Print Services Facility (PSF) for z/OS" is described here: 
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/printsoftware/psfhome_z_ww.html

I don't remember using PSF/zOS to convert VSE applications to z/OS.  
Our Prism-CS product can automatically convert PSF/VSE to JCL OUTPUT 
statements, something that was used in at least half-a-dozen recent projects.
Prism-CS is described here: http://gsf-soft.com/Prism-CS/

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TSSO and z/OS 1.11.

2009-12-24 Thread Richbourg, Claude
Good morning all,

 

I am uploading the 'new' TSSO that I pulled down from the CBT updates
page. Does anyone know if it Is

ready to go for z/OS 1.11?

 

Thanks up front .

 

Regards,

Claude

 

 

 


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Re: SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=102 REASON=0000000C

2009-12-24 Thread Peter Relson
>Both Poster (obviously) AND Waiter are Sup key 0

Yet you're using key 8 storage for the ECB? That is rarely (if ever) 
appropriate. 

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Re: Hummingbird screen snapshots

2009-12-24 Thread Dana Mitchell
Gil,

I don't have Hummingbird, but I do use Rumba and it has a similar 'feature' 
perhaps Hummingbird has something like this too.  

Under Options->Edit->Clipboard format, there are several checkboxes for 
selecting the format of the data that gets cut/pasted such as text, BIFF, 
Bitmap, Picture  etc.   I have all of them unchecked except text.

Dana

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Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

2009-12-24 Thread John Dawes
Barry,
 
Our Capacity performance group said that the slow response time for some 
volumes was caused by the small VTOCIX.  The suggestion was made to increase 
it. 

--- On Wed, 23/12/09, Schwarz, Barry A  wrote:


From: Schwarz, Barry A 
Subject: Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Wednesday, 23 December, 2009, 6:41 AM


I assume you meant the size of the VTOCIX dataset and not the size of the VIR 
in the dataset.

The job matches what I use (except I don't include the VTOCIX DSN in the first 
step).

But what makes you think the VTOCIX is undersized?  The CVAFDSM macro will tell 
you how many VIRs are still available in the dataset.

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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

Good Evening To All,

We have noticed that some of the VIRs on several volumes are very small.  We 
would like to increase the size.  I am not sure if I am on the right track this 
is why I need your help.

The VIR exsists on the volume and in order to increase the size I will need to 
purge it and reallocate it.  Below are the 2 jobs I would like to use.  Would 
they work?  Is there another way of going about it?  I would welcome your 
suggestions.

Job to delete the VTOCIX

//STEP1 EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=3M
//MYVOL DD  UNIT=(3390,,DEFER),VOL=SER=PROD21,
//          DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD21,DISP=SHR
//SYSIN     DD *
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD  *
BUILDIX DDNAME(MYVOL) OSVTOC PURGE
/*
Job to build the VTOCIX

/*
//STEP01   EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=4M,PARM='NOREPLYU'
//PROD21   DD DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD21,UNIT=SYSALLDA,
//      VOL=SER=PROD21,DISP=NEW,SPACE=(CYL,(2))
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD *
  BUILDIX  IXVTOC,DDNAME(PROD21)
/*
//

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Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD

2009-12-24 Thread John Dawes
Mark,
 
Thanks.  I will try your suggestion.

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From: Mark Jacobs 
Subject: Re: INCREASING SIZE OF VIR - VTOC INDEX RECORD
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On 12/22/09 10:04, John Dawes wrote:
> Good Evening To All,
>   We have noticed that some of the VIRs on several volumes are very small.  
>We would like to increase the size.  I am not sure if I am on the right track 
>this is why I need your help.
>   The VIR exsists on the volume and in order to increase the size I will need 
>to purge it and reallocate it.  Below are the 2 jobs I would like to use.  
>Would they work?  Is there another way of going about it?  I would welcome 
>your suggestions.   Job to delete the VTOCIX
>   //STEP1 EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=3M              //MYVOL DD  
>UNIT=(3390,,DEFER),VOL=SER=PROD21, //          
>DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD21,DISP=SHR    //SYSIN     DD *                            
>   //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*                         //SYSIN DD  *                
>                    BUILDIX DDNAME(MYVOL) OSVTOC PURGE            /*           
>                                  Job to build the VTOCIX
>   /*                                                       //STEP01   EXEC 
>PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=4M,PARM='NOREPLYU'     //PROD21   DD 
>DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.PROD21,UNIT=SYSALLDA,      //      
>VOL=SER=PROD21,DISP=NEW,SPACE=(CYL,(2))       //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*           
>                        //SYSIN DD *                                           
>     BUILDIX  IXVTOC,DDNAME(PROD21)                         /*                 
>                                      //                                       
>                                                            Thanks in advance
> 
> 
> 
>    

Looks like you can dynamically increase both the index and vtoc using ICKDSF.
2.14.4.1.4  Expanding the VTOC and the index in the ICKDSF R17 Users guide.

The following is an example of expanding the VTOC and the Index using the
EXTVTOC and EXTINDEX parameters.

    //EXAMPLE   JOB
    //          EXEC  PGM=ICKDSF
    //VOLDD     DD DISP=SHR,UNIT=3380,VOL=SER=TMP121
    //SYSPRINT  DD    SYSOUT=A
    //SYSIN     DD    *
     REFORMAT DDNAME(VOLDD) VERIFY(TMP121) EXTVTOC(200) EXTINDEX(16)
    /*


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C.D. Keltie is away.

2009-12-24 Thread Colin Keltie
I will be out of the office starting  24/12/2009 and will not return until
05/01/2010.

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-24 Thread Steve Austin
Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker; it
does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
statements.

Steve

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wrote:

:>Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD
names?
:>The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case.


Look at the assembler ALIAS statement.

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Re: Solved: Re: Hummingbird screen snapshots

2009-12-24 Thread Ray Pearce
 
> -Original Message-
> > That being the case, Paste ought to be a hierarchic menu, such as:
> >
> >Paste-->+--> Plain text
> >|
> >+--> Rich text
> >|
> >+--> Image
> >|
> >+--> Audio
> >|
> >+--> etc.
> >
> > ... with layers outside the capability of the application dimmed.
> >
> 
> Naw, that'd be too flexible :-) Srsly, sure would be nice!!!
> 

Try the following experiment.

Select some of a Hummingbird/Extra! Screen and hit Ctrl-C to copy it to
the clipboard.
Open up a word document.
Select Edit/Paste Special...

If your set-up is like mine, you will see a list of available formats
that can be pasted.

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Re: JES SPOOL "quota" by user?

2009-12-24 Thread Brian Westerman
One of the things that SyzSpool was written to handle is situation like
this.  SyzSpool allows you to manage the spool and it's very inexpensive. 
You can set up the rules to handle "individuals" like this and have their
data be maintained (off the spool) to any age that you want it to be kept,
since the data is off the spool volume(s) and compressed, (or on tape if it
has reached the migration age), the user can't tie things up.  

On the user's side, they have complete access to their data via ISPF or the
Web interface.

Brian

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