Re: CA-Spool Message ESF735

2010-04-09 Thread Barbara Nitz
CA-Spool 11.5 is issuing message ESF735  CA Health Checker Initialization
failed with RC=40 and it is not documented.  Any ideas?

It appears that CA was (also) tasked with coming up with health checks. The 
result was that they are not documented properly. When we ran into this, we 
had them dig for the documentation, and they will provide it in a future 
release 
in the standard books.

In our case, we got exceptions that no one had an inkling how to handle. We 
just deleted the checks in the parmlib member, as our product guy said they're 
useless checks, anyway.

Regards, Barbara Nitz

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Re: Console's behaviour when no paths available

2010-04-09 Thread Barbara Nitz
Kevin, 

Sorry, I wasn't on IBMMAIN last night. We've had a lively debate about what
happened and what we might be able to do to handle it more intelligently.

thanks for letting me know. Please feel free to contact me directly (Jim has my 
work email, if you don't). I have a syslog excerpt from three systems that I 
could send you, if that helps. Unfortunately I have no dump, and no other doc 
than the syslogs. I was either too stupid to find them or there really aren't 
any 
MIH records in erep, much less software records of anything.

Tony,

Wouldn't it be by definition a hardware problem in the OSA card if a
network problem is capable of causing a channel control check? My
reading of the definition of Channel Control Check in the Principles
of Operation is that it is a machine malfunction that cannot be caused
by external data or conditions. Perhaps you should ask them if the OSA
card has been granted a deviation from the POO; they take this stuff
fairly seriously.

I'm also surprised that the machine didn't call home about this kind
of hardware problem. Perhaps they already have logs and such, but the
wrong people have them.

I didn't say that we technicians *believe* what IBM told us, did I :-) ? The 
OSA logs are IBM confidential (or something), otherwise my network guy would 
already have checked them. He's very good at that. He also believes that they 
wrap very fast, so there really might not be a log from the time of the failure 
anymore.

The way I  learned it, a channel control check is basically the equivalent of 
an 
abend0c4, only in micro/milli/whatever code - in hardware. Happens all the 
time with DASD. z/OS usually recovers and goes on without any hickup.

But given the amount of work for each of us, my boss decided (after that cop-
out from IBM) that we will not do anything more unless the problem recurs. (In 
which case someone will start the trace and then we wait for another 
recurrance.)

It's just my general obstinacy that I don't want to wait for a recurrance and 
possibly run into some severe problem because of a channel control check. 
Finding the cause is one thing, fixing recovery and stabilizing operations is 
my 
priority. (And so I kinda ignore what my boss told me.)

Best regards, Barbara 

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Re: Rexx to submit job

2010-04-09 Thread Peter Nuttall
The question is a little vague and Ted has answered in the simplest form 
... Here's a snippet using File tailoring (Skeletons) :

address 'ISPEXEC' 
  FTOPEN TEMP 
  if rc0 then call ExitWithError 'Could not start file tailoring' 
  FTINCL AMBSKL 
  if rc0 then, 
  call ExitWithError 'Could not tailor skeleton AMBSKL' 
  FTCLOSE 
  if rc0 then call ExitWithError 'Could not end file tailoring' 
 
  VGET ZTEMPF 
address 'TSO' SUBMIT  'ZTEMPF' 

Obviously, you would have to create the skeleton to go with this code ... 

Cheers,
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/* REXX */
address TSO
SUBMIT job
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I'm looking for a rexx sample of submitting a batch job.  Does anyone have 
a 
snippet of code they can share?
TIA,
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Re: Console's behaviour when no paths available

2010-04-09 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, Apr 9th, 2010 at 11:00 AM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote:

 We've had a lively debate about what 
 happened and what we might be able to do to handle it more
 intelligently. 

One can only imagine.
I suspect Barbara has that effect (more than) occasionally  ;-)

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Re: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator

2010-04-09 Thread Lou Losee
When IBM announced the patent pledge, they specifically reserved the
right to defend itself from attack:

IBM has no intention of asserting its patent portfolio against the
Linux kernel, unless of course we are forced to defend ourselves,
said Nick Donofrio, senior vice president for technology and
manufacturing, drawing applause in a speech at the LinuxWorld
Conference and Expo.

And in the TurboHercules story, who is suing whom? It's not IBM. The
complaint against IBM was filed with the EU Commission by
TurboHercules. At that exact moment, did they not take themselves out
from under the patent pledge's safety umbrella?

Lou


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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Scott Barry
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:50:35 -0700, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/ca_job_cuts/


No disrespect to the many actual CA workers, but having served my own
sentence there, I'm quite confident that they could lay off 1,000 bodies
without selecting any *workers*.


So what's your point?  And it's clear in your first sentence that some level
of personal opinion on the off-topic concern was intended, and yes, I expect
there are CA workers on this forum that have been disrespected.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Strange email from IBM

2010-04-09 Thread Kelman, Tom
I just received an email that comes from nets...@us.ibm.com, or so the
addressing says, which says IBM found my business information at
www.jigsaw.com and based on that they will be sending me insights,
information and offers.   The URL www.jigsaw.com is blocked by my
company as is the opt out link provided by the email.  I was wondering
if anyone on the board has ever received similar emails from IBM.  It
looks kind of strange to me.  I would think that IBM would go through
other channels than picking names off of oddball web sites.   

 

Tom Kelman

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Re: Strange email from IBM

2010-04-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Most likely some spammer has harvested this (or another) list (again)!
I would forward the email to your anti-spam provider.

I checked jigsaw. It seems to be a spammer's paradise. 
It purports to gather contact info from wherever they can get it.

HTH,

snip
I just received an email that comes from nets...@us.ibm.com, or so the
addressing says, which says IBM found my business information at
www.jigsaw.com and based on that they will be sending me insights,
information and offers.   The URL www.jigsaw.com is blocked by my
company as is the opt out link provided by the email.  I was wondering
if anyone on the board has ever received similar emails from IBM.  It
looks kind of strange to me.  I would think that IBM would go through
other channels than picking names off of oddball web sites.
/snip
   

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I've always wondered about people who post controversial opinions who don't 
identify themselves in any way.  You may be correct in your comments, and 
you may be way off base.  I've never worked at CA.  They do make some good 
products, and then again I've worked with some of the products they've 
bought over the years where they obviously didn't have anyone really 
knowledgable to support them.


Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
IBM Global Services Division
Dubuque, Iowa
414-477-7259


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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:


http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/ca_job_cuts/



No disrespect to the many actual CA workers, but having served my own
sentence there, I'm quite confident that they could lay off 1,000 bodies
without selecting any *workers*.



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Re: Rexx to submit job

2010-04-09 Thread Donald Johnson
I don't know if this is useful, or if it matches anything to help the OP,
but I use this Exec to submit my jobs from ISPF. It adds a comment block at
the beginning to help identify the origin of the jobs. I have changed the
command SUB to point to this Exec called SUBB:

/* REXX Exec to add filename, SYSID, Date and Time to JCL */

Trace  o;

isr = ISREDIT;  isrla = isr LINE_AFTER;  isrdel = isr DELETE;
isp = ISPEXEC;

isr  MACRO ();

isr  (DSN)  =  DATASET;
isr  (MEM)  =  MEMBER;
isp  VGET (ZSYSID);
jcllib  =  dsn(mem);
data=  Was submitted from Left(zsysid,4) on,
   Date(N) at Time(C);

box.1   =  //* + || Copies('-',62) || + *//;
box.2   =  //* | || Center(jcllib,62)  || | *//;
box.3   =  //* | || Center(data,62)|| | *//;
box.4   =  box.1;
box.0   =  4;

Do dest = 1 to box.0;  isrla dest = 'box.dest';  End;

isr SUBMIT;

Do  box.0;  isrdel 2;  End;

Return 00;





On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Peter Nuttall
peter.nutt...@euroclear.comwrote:

 The question is a little vague and Ted has answered in the simplest form
 ... Here's a snippet using File tailoring (Skeletons) :

 address 'ISPEXEC'
  FTOPEN TEMP
  if rc0 then call ExitWithError 'Could not start file tailoring'
  FTINCL AMBSKL
  if rc0 then,
  call ExitWithError 'Could not tailor skeleton AMBSKL'
  FTCLOSE
  if rc0 then call ExitWithError 'Could not end file tailoring'

  VGET ZTEMPF
 address 'TSO' SUBMIT  'ZTEMPF'

 Obviously, you would have to create the skeleton to go with this code ...

 Cheers,
 Peter





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 SUBMIT job
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 Subject: Rexx to submit job

 I'm looking for a rexx sample of submitting a batch job.  Does anyone have
 a
 snippet of code they can share?
 TIA,
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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Bill Neiman
Mark,

 It's not sufficient to define a new CFRM policy containing the
corrected CPU number.  Using the IXCMIAPU utility to define a new policy or
update an existing policy only stores that policy in what you might think of
as a standby state in the CFRM CDS.  In order to activate a stored policy,
you must start it with a SETXCF START,POLICY... command.  Did you perhaps
omit that step?

 The sysplex CDS does not contain any information about the CFRM policy
in use.  What it contains is information about the CDS configuration that
was last used for all CDS types.  Without a more detailed explanation of the
steps you executed in establishing your CDS configuration, I can't
immediately explain why redefining your sysplex CDS would have enabled you
to reIPL.

 Bill Neiman
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Re: Strange email from IBM

2010-04-09 Thread David Friedman
I received a similar email this morning. Not sure what to make of it.

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Of Staller, Allan
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Most likely some spammer has harvested this (or another) list (again)! I
would forward the email to your anti-spam provider.

I checked jigsaw. It seems to be a spammer's paradise. 
It purports to gather contact info from wherever they can get it.

HTH,

snip
I just received an email that comes from nets...@us.ibm.com, or so the
addressing says, which says IBM found my business information at
www.jigsaw.com and based on that they will be sending me insights,
information and offers.   The URL www.jigsaw.com is blocked by my
company as is the opt out link provided by the email.  I was wondering if
anyone on the board has ever received similar emails from IBM.  It looks
kind of strange to me.  I would think that IBM would go through other
channels than picking names off of oddball web sites. /snip
   

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Re: Strange email from IBM

2010-04-09 Thread Kelman, Tom
That's what I figured.  Thanks.

Tom Kelman
Enterprise Capacity Planner
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of Staller, Allan
 Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 7:50 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Strange email from IBM
 
 Most likely some spammer has harvested this (or another) list (again)!
 I would forward the email to your anti-spam provider.
 
 I checked jigsaw. It seems to be a spammer's paradise.
 It purports to gather contact info from wherever they can get it.
 
 HTH,
 
 snip
 I just received an email that comes from nets...@us.ibm.com, or so the
 addressing says, which says IBM found my business information at
 www.jigsaw.com and based on that they will be sending me insights,
 information and offers.   The URL www.jigsaw.com is blocked by my
 company as is the opt out link provided by the email.  I was
wondering
 if anyone on the board has ever received similar emails from IBM.  It
 looks kind of strange to me.  I would think that IBM would go through
 other channels than picking names off of oddball web sites.
 /snip
 
 
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Re: setsockopt problem

2010-04-09 Thread osman cinar eren
Hi,

thanks for the prompt reply.
After i read this document, i switched to COBOL as these two timeout values 
were written as supported for COBOL API.
But with these options used for setsockopt in COBOL, i still receive not 
supported error.

can anybody help?

thanks in advance.
cinar.

--- On Tue, 4/6/10, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote:

 From: Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net
 Subject: Re: setsockopt problem
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 5:53 PM
 One of Osman, Cinar or Eren
 presumably - none of which matches BR
 
 If you are using the flavour of C sockets described in
 Chapter 10 of the z/OS 
 Communications Server IP Sockets Application Programming
 Interface Guide 
 and Reference manual, you are trying to use an unsupported
 function.
 
 If you are not, then the rest of my post does not apply!
 
 You should note the Note right at the beginning of
 Chapter 10 that this 
 flavour of sockets support is not to be enhanced further.
 If you study - 
 carefully since it's all a bit complicated! - the section
 Introducing TCP/IP 
 concepts: Socket libraries in Chapter 1. Introducing
 TCP/IP concepts, you will 
 find the following sentence:
 
 quote
 
 The native TCP/IP C socket library is not POSIX compliant
 and it should not be 
 used for new C socket program development.
 
 /quote
 
 Long ago - c. 1994 - I used to play with this flavour of
 sockets programming 
 since it was the only game in town. When I read your post,
 I did not 
 remember noting SO_RCVTIMEO as a SETSOCKOPT() call option
 and, indeed, 
 with this flavour of sockets support, it does not exist.
 
 You can position your cursor at the beginning of Chapter 10
 in a PDF file of 
 the manual, search for SO_RCVTIMEO and you will find the
 first hit in Chapter 
 12.
 
 Or
 
 You can go to the description of the SETSOCKOPT() call and
 search - in vain -
  for the SO_RCVTIMEO option under keywords recognized at
 the socket level.
 
 Chris Mason
 
 On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:40:48 -0700, osman cinar eren 
 ocinare...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I work on a C program on our zOS 1.9 environment. I
 want to learn if we can 
 set timeout values on sockets, i.e.:
 
 struct timeval r;
 r.tv_sec=0;
 r.tv_usec=10;
 ... /*socket yaratılıp servera connect
 olunuyor*/
 optres=setsockopt(sockfd,SOL_SOCKET,SO_RCVTIMEO,
 r,sizeof(struct 
 timeval));
 
 The setsockopt function above returns an error whose
 explanation is:
 EDC5042I A special internally-generated memory file
 name was specified for 
 opening, but a memory file with this name does not exist.
 (errno2=0x)
 
 
 I will appreciate any help/comments on this problem.
 Can we use 
 SO_RCVTIMEO socket option? If yes, what may be my problem?
 
 BR..
 
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Re: VSAM File Updating Issues

2010-04-09 Thread Mike Kerford-Byrnes
When A KSDS CA is loaded for the first time, VSAM attempts to perform Key
Compression which, usually, results in a reduction in the length of the key
stored in the Sequence Set CI for that CA.  In some circumstances it can
result in a stored key equal or, rarely, larger than the original.  The
254-byte size will obviously push things a bit, and may give some anomalous
results.  Some assumptions are made by IDCAMS about the expected key
compression when DEFining a VSAM file (The algorithm was changed, as I
recall, in z/OS 1.3). 

 

  One of the consequences is that, if key compression is not as high as
expected, some data CIs in a given CA are not populated because there is
insufficient space in the corresponding Sequence Set record to accommodate
all of the entries (one per data CI in that CA). This usually results in a
file occupying more data CAs and hence more space.  Again the 254 byte key
(in whatever compressed state is becomes) may cause some distortion, and
even some problems.

 

Given that increasing the size of the Index CI makes the problem go away,
I suspect that this is the area which should be investigated.

 

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So what's your point?  And it's clear in your first sentence that some level
of personal opinion on the off-topic concern was intended, and yes, I expect
there are CA workers on this forum that have been disrespected.

But, it's Ed Gould!
I only see his comments when they're quoted.
He's been on my kill list for years!
His opinion is as highly valued as GW's were.

The entire community would be better off if he stopped contributing!

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Re: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator

2010-04-09 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Ed Gould
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http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/04/ibm-breaks-oss-patent-pr
omise-targets-mainframe-emulator.ars
SNIP

I would still like to know, is IBM charging for its patents as part of
the licensing cost of its SCPs, or is it charging in the cost of the
hardware, or both. That question was quashed when IBM acquired PSI.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - 
From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to 
take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull



So what's your point?  And it's clear in your first sentence that some 
level
of personal opinion on the off-topic concern was intended, and yes, I 
expect

there are CA workers on this forum that have been disrespected.

But, it's Ed Gould!
I only see his comments when they're quoted.
He's been on my kill list for years!
His opinion is as highly valued as GW's were.

The entire community would be better off if he stopped contributing!

-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!



Ted,

Back off the caffeine, dude.  All Ed did this time was post a link to the 
article.  Whatever his past sins, he did not deserve that ad hominem attack.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Um, it wasn't Ed Gould, it was zman. 

MA

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m h...

2010-04-09 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 4/9/2010 9:14:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
maryanne4...@gmail.com writes:

Um, it wasn't Ed Gould, it was zman.
 

Doesn't matter if you're just looking for an excuse to  vent. 
_www.alt-angst.com_ (http://www.alt-angst.com) ?


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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, Apr 9th, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote:

 The entire community would be better off if he stopped contributing!

Many might nod knowingly.
Ed was unnecessarily aspersed.

Shane ...

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread zMan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Scott Barry sba...@sbbworks.com wrote:

 So what's your point?  And it's clear in your first sentence that some
 level
 of personal opinion on the off-topic concern was intended, and yes, I
 expect
 there are CA workers on this forum that have been disrespected.


Jeez, chill. It was meant to be humorous. And as you point out, it was clear
there was personal opinion: so what? What's YOUR point? Mine was pretty
clear, I think. The only CA folks on this forum who should feel disrespected
are those who consider themselves non-workers -- that was explicit.

Seriously: there are LOTS of great folks at CA. There are also some drones,
and some semi-evil management, which has improved a fair bit since the
Sterling acquisition (because Sterling management wasn't evil, and they
didn't *all* leave) and since Sanjay was convicted.

Aside from the semi-evil management, I expect CA is no worse in this respect
than any other company its size -- drones can exist. (In a small company, of
course, dronage is too visible to get away with, unless management is wildly
incompetent, in which case the drones are the least of your worries.)

I could make the same comment about any reported layoff plans at IBM, except
that they *may* have shed most of the non-workers in previous rounds of
RIFs. Or not: sometimes the drones are surprisingly good at hiding
themselves.

And now we're WAY OT!

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Re: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator

2010-04-09 Thread McKown, John
Counter points.

quoteWhy I Believe IBM is Free to Sue The Pants Off TurboHercules/quote
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100408153953613

quoteThe recent attacks on IBM patent use by some in the open-source 
community are way out of line./quote
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/7034/1/

quoteLinux Foundation say breathe easy on IBM patents/quote
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Foundation-say-breathe-easy-on-IBM-patents-972747.html


quoteIBM's Open Source Patent Pledge /quote
http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/299092-ibms-open-source-patent-pledge

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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
The failing IPL was the first one in our DR sysplex, so it wasn't possible to 
issue the SETXCF command. We depend on the CFRMPOL statement in our DR COUPLExx 
member to pull in our defined CFRM policy. 

I'm assuming that once we ipled with our bad CFRM policy the sysplex couple 
dataset was primed with the 'active' CFRM policy so it never looked at the 
updated CFRM policy in the CFRM couple dataset. A delete/redefine of the 
sysplex couple dataset resulted in the next IPL using CFRMPOL in our COUPLExx 
member pulling in the corrected CFRM policy.

I'm just trying to confirm my assumption.

Mark Jacobs 


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Subject: Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship
 
Mark,

 It's not sufficient to define a new CFRM policy containing the
corrected CPU number.  Using the IXCMIAPU utility to define a new policy or
update an existing policy only stores that policy in what you might think of
as a standby state in the CFRM CDS.  In order to activate a stored policy,
you must start it with a SETXCF START,POLICY... command.  Did you perhaps
omit that step?

 The sysplex CDS does not contain any information about the CFRM policy
in use.  What it contains is information about the CDS configuration that
was last used for all CDS types.  Without a more detailed explanation of the
steps you executed in establishing your CDS configuration, I can't
immediately explain why redefining your sysplex CDS would have enabled you
to reIPL.

 Bill Neiman
 Parallel Sysplex development, IBM

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Re: Non-SMS-managed LOGR offload data sets

2010-04-09 Thread Nick Jones
On Wed, 7 Apr 2
What I need to have accessible from all systems in the sysplex (share) is a
number of volumes that can contain LOGR offload data sets from two
subplexes that otherwise know nothing about it each other (in theory). I am
also told that it is 'too much work' to make it one SMS config for the full
sysplex. And I cannot validate that statement - not my area.

Regards, Barbara

My only advice, if such a thing works, is that you should consider
separate HLQ or EHLQ values for each log stream that has the same name
in both sysplexes.  That would avoid thrashing when allocating offload
data sets, where the sysplexes would be competing for the same data
set names.

I took a look at some old Logger APARs, and found OA12937, which
corrected a ENQ bug with the same log stream name used in multiple
sysplexes in the same GRS complex (one full sysplex, and numerous
monoplexes).  That was in 2005 and before that logger wasn't aware
that such an environment existed. In the apar logger added DOC that
says:

z/OS MVS Setting Up a Sysplex
|--- LOCATION IN PUBLICATION ---|
Chapter 9   Planning for System Logger Applications
Section 9.4 Preparing to Use System Logger
 Applications
Section 9.4.1 Understand the Requirements for Syste
 Logger
Section 9.4.1.2 Sysplex Requirement

GRS Complex considerations:

If the environment System Logger is executing in consists
of more than one sysplex in a GRS complex, with
like-named logstreams defined on more multiple sysplexes,
the following requirements must be met:

- The GRS Ring complex contains at most one multisystem
  sysplex.
- One of the following must be true:
   A. Each like-named logstream in the GRS complex must
  have a unique EHLQ/HLQ.
   B. The installation must ensure the seperation of System
  Logger logstream resources (seperate catalogs and DASD).
  Further, the logstream offload dataset naming
  convention must be included in the inclusion list as
  discussed in z/OS MVS Planning: Global Resource
  Serialization, Chapter 1.2.7.10 

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Re: Non-SMS-managed LOGR offload data sets

2010-04-09 Thread Nick Jones
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:27:41 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote:

What I need to have accessible from all systems in the sysplex (share) is a
number of volumes that can contain LOGR offload data sets from two
subplexes that otherwise know nothing about it each other (in theory). I am
also told that it is 'too much work' to make it one SMS config for the full
sysplex. And I cannot validate that statement - not my area.

Regards, Barbara

My only advice, if such a thing works, is that you should consider
separate HLQ or EHLQ values for each log stream that has the same name
in both sysplexes.  That would avoid thrashing when allocating offload
data sets, where the sysplexes would be competing for the same data
set names.

I took a look at some old Logger APARs, and found OA12937, which
corrected a ENQ bug with the same log stream name used in multiple
sysplexes in the same GRS complex (one full sysplex, and numerous
monoplexes).  That was in 2005 and before that logger wasn't aware
that such an environment existed. In the apar logger added DOC that
says:

z/OS MVS Setting Up a Sysplex
|--- LOCATION IN PUBLICATION ---|
Chapter 9   Planning for System Logger Applications
Section 9.4 Preparing to Use System Logger
 Applications
Section 9.4.1 Understand the Requirements for Syste
 Logger
Section 9.4.1.2 Sysplex Requirement

GRS Complex considerations:

If the environment System Logger is executing in consists
of more than one sysplex in a GRS complex, with
like-named logstreams defined on more multiple sysplexes,
the following requirements must be met:

- The GRS Ring complex contains at most one multisystem
  sysplex.
- One of the following must be true:
   A. Each like-named logstream in the GRS complex must
  have a unique EHLQ/HLQ.
   B. The installation must ensure the seperation of System
  Logger logstream resources (seperate catalogs and DASD).
  Further, the logstream offload dataset naming
  convention must be included in the inclusion list as
  discussed in z/OS MVS Planning: Global Resource
  Serialization, Chapter 1.2.7.10 

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Hey zMan,

I suggest you identify yourself. It's just part of the netiquette (at
least on this list) not to stay anonymous. 

That especially applies when you're ranting...

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Top 10 Sysprog issues

2010-04-09 Thread Pinnacle
I'm working on a SHARE session for Boston for the Top 10 issues facing 
sysprogs today.  I sent out a limited request for feedback and got some 
surprising results.  I'd like to hear from the list now to see what you guys 
think on this subject.  Please send me your replies off-list.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: IDG073I Message

2010-04-09 Thread Chris Burgess
I'm also seeing the following messages for RMF:

IEF196I IEF237I 0503 ALLOCATED TO SYS00019  
IGD073I ANOMALY DETECTED IN COMMDS PCTSYS.SMS.TEST.COMMDS - REASON CODE 
10152   
IGD042I COMMDS PCTSYS.SMS.TEST.COMMDS SUCCESSFULLY REPAIRED 
ERB430I ZZ : MONITOR I DATA GATHERER ERBMFSMS. SMS INTERFACE FAILED.
ERB430I ZZ : RETURN CODE:  4 REASON CODE:  5009. NEW STORAGE
ERB430I ZZ : GROUP CONFIGURATION CANNOT BE OBTAINED.

I found the following for the reason code 5009:

'SMS subsystem interface reason code 5009 indicates that the interface was not 
able to allocate storage in the RMF address space.'

The LPARs are running in local but are in the same SMSPLEX. Also, I've been 
able to get only one LPAR up and running. The rest have tasks hung since SMS is 
not active.

Thanks,
Chris Burgess
EMC²
where information lives

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 Subject: IDG073I Message
 
 My LPARs keep steaming the following messages:
 
 IGD073I ANOMALY DETECTED IN COMMDS PCTSYS.SMS.TEST.COMMDS - 
 REASON CODE 
 10152 
   
 IGD042I COMMDS PCTSYS.SMS.TEST.COMMDS SUCCESSFULLY REPAIRED   
   
 IEF196I IGD104I PCTSYS.SMS.TEST.COMMDS   
 RETAINED,  
 
 When I IPL them, they get hung up on SMS. I switched over to 
 a backup COMMDS
 and the messages continue. Also, I deleted it and redefined 
 it and it didn't
 help. I appreciate any insight.

First SWAG is that the DASD they are on is not defined as SHARED and so is not 
being RESERVEd and RELEASEd properly during updating. Or that something else 
like GRS or MIM is converting the RESERVEs into global ENQs improperly.

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread John P Kalinich
Peter Hunkeler of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
wrote on 04/09/2010 09:54:06 AM:

 Hey zMan,

 I suggest you identify yourself. It's just part of the netiquette (at
 least on this list) not to stay anonymous.

 That especially applies when you're ranting...

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Years ago, there was an IBM-MAINiac who went by the handle Programmer
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and I went to the defense of the CA employee, P-E got miffed and eventually
left the list saying he had a Sysplex to manage.

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread George Henke
Some food for thought:

My current client has a wonderful paradigm called the 3 C's.

The founder used it to develop an automobile dealership into a multi-billion
dollar company over 50 years and everyone in the company is rated on the 3
C's.

Communication
Cooperation
Consideration




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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Freddy Guevara
Interesting case...

I doubt that any CF info (like Lpar Id or Serial #) is saved in the Sysplex CDS.

Maybe (I'm thinking) the CFRM CDS keeps 2 separate sections, one for the 
active policy and another section for the 'saved' policies, so when you 
updated the policy (with the right CF information) you actually updated the 
saved-policy portion but the 'active' policy kept the wrong CF info.

Something that IBM can confirm.

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Re: OT IBM breaks OSS patent promise, targets mainframe emulator

2010-04-09 Thread Bruno Sugliani
This story becomes quite interesting 
Up to now when some company was trying to enter this market they could buy
and sell each other ( we remember PSI or T3 )
But this time what they are talking about a breach of patent by a Q public
license software named Hercules. 
I am definitely no lawyer but technically Turbohercules is only using this
Open Source stuff ( well not exactly open source i think)  that has been
around for a few years without any complain.
I do not see how IBM can buy a Q Public License emulator because the fact
that it is public means it is not for sale ( well i guess ) .
So where will they go from now ? I am puzzled
There was another interesting counter article here worried by other
virtualisation patent in other emulation software :
http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2891amp;blogid=14

Bruno Sugliani 
zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr
   

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Counter points.

quoteWhy I Believe IBM is Free to Sue The Pants Off TurboHercules/quote
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100408153953613

quoteThe recent attacks on IBM patent use by some in the open-source
community are way out of line./quote
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/7034/1/

quoteLinux Foundation say breathe easy on IBM patents/quote
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Foundation-say-breathe-easy-on-IBM-patents-972747.html


quoteIBM's Open Source Patent Pledge /quote
http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/299092-ibms-open-source-patent-pledge

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Re: ESS 2105-800 DS6800 comparison

2010-04-09 Thread Nigel Salway
Cobe, 

The best documentation on 2105-800 performance I found was the redbook 
SG24-6422-00. 

HTH 

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ICHRDSNT

2010-04-09 Thread John Norgauer
Does the ICHRDSNT module have to be in a LNKLST'ed dataset? Or can it be 
in PLPA?



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What is ziip and zaap Training/doc

2010-04-09 Thread Donald Johnson
Does anyone know where I can get some doc or PPT slides that explain what a
ziip is, why it was created - what purpose does it serve, how to measure
it's effectiveness...

I am looking for some basic doc to give to a trainee who understands the
basic processor/LPAR concepts.

Thank you for your recommendations!
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Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-09 Thread Hayim Sokolsky
ICHRDSNT is referenced just once at IPL time (ICHSECxx under IEEMB860 at 
RACF initialization) in order to build the CSA table that RACF uses to 
manage its live DATASETs. It can be in PLPA, or LPA, or the LinkList, 
it does not have to be in SYS1.LINKLIB. Keep in mind, that the standard 
search order for LOAD is used, so a MLPA, or PLPA copy will override a 
LinkList copy. First come, first served.


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Re: What is ziip and zaap Training/doc

2010-04-09 Thread Chris Hoelscher
in preparing a presentation for  CA-WORLD 2010 (on IDMS exploitation of 
z/IIP processors)  - i relied heavily upon this document:

http://www.ca.com/Files/WhitePapers/ziip_exploitation_wp3.pdf 

it was very helpful to me in understanding the guts of speciality 
processors


Chris Hoelscher
IDMS/DB2 Database Architect
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
choelsc...@humana.com

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Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-09 Thread John Norgauer
Thanks. That's what I thought, however, I have been having some problem in 
my TEST LPAR recently after
creating a new RACF D.B. I found in RACF  message manual for ICH509I:

The data set name table (ICHRDSNT) should reside in SYS1.LINKLIB or any 
other APF-authorized linklist library. Make sure you verify that the 
dataset containing the ICHRDSNT is correctly APF authorized. 

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Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Is there some issue/problem prompting this question? 

We keep ours in a system specific LOADLIB (Lnklst'ed) so that it does
not have to change between maintenance levels of a particular release.

If necessary, at the release boundary, the module is assembled/linked
w/the appropriate release dependent macros into the system specific
Loadlib via a SMP/E UMOD. IIRC, there is no distributed module for
ICHRDSNT. It must be custom-created for your installation. 

Just my $0.02 USD

HTH,

snip
Does the ICHRDSNT module have to be in a LNKLST'ed dataset? Or can it be

in PLPA?
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Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-09 Thread Hayim Sokolsky
The reason for the APF-authorized wording is to ensure that ICHRDSNT 
comes from an APF authorized source, 1. for the IPL (ICHSECxx), and 2. 
when it is used by IRRUT400. 


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Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-09 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:01:19 -0700, John Norgauer
john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu wrote:

Does the ICHRDSNT module have to be in a LNKLST'ed dataset? Or can it be
in PLPA?


As we document, it must be in a linklist library.  There is no reason to
have it in LPA, as that would merely waste space and offers no performance
advantages.

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Back off the caffeine, dude.  All Ed did this time was post a link to the 
article.
Whatever his past sins, he did not deserve that ad hominem attack.

Making the comment about *workers* at CA was not a sin?

If he did not make that comment, then I appologise for my statements.

But, since it appeared to be attributed to him...
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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Bill Neiman
Mark,

 The sysplex CDS contains no information whatsoever about the CFRM
policy or anything in it.

 The COUPLExx CFRMPOL statement only takes effect when there is no
active CFRM policy.  It won't help you if you are using the CFRM CDS from
your production site, or if you have mirrored the CFRM CDS from your
production site.  In those cases, the CFRM CDS contains the active policy
that was last in use in production, and CFRMPOL is irrelevant.  (This is one
of the reasons why IBM strongly recommends that you do not mirror packs
containing the CFRM CDS.)  CFRMPOL is intended for the case when you are
IPLing with a freshly-formatted CFRM CDS which has had policies defined but
which has never been used.  

 The only way I can make sense out of your scenario is if you deleted
and redefined your CFRM CDS, in which case the CFRMPOL specification would
have allowed you to come up with your corrected policy.  Deleting and
redefining the sysplex CDS shouldn't have any bearing on the situation.

 Bill Neiman
 Parallel Sysplex development, IBM

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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Brian Peterson
I believe simply rewriting the policy was not sufficient.  Please tell me if
this is what you did:

1) First IPL at DR site specified CFRM CDS data set one.  This IPL
specified CFRMPOL(policy_a).  Policy_a was not correct.

2) Second IPL at DR site used the exact same CFRM CDS as in attempt 1. In
this IPL, you specified CFRMPOL(policy_b) or else you specified
CFRMPOL(policy_a) having first rewritten policy_a in the CFRM CDS prior to
the IPL.

This fails because the CFRMPOL parameter is only acted upon if there is NO
active policy in the CFRM CDS.

Here's the way I think about this, to keep this straight in my own mind:

Whenever it is necessary to IPL at DR with a new CFRM policy, the CFRM CDS
must be newly created.

By the way, in my experience, the Sysplex CDS has nothing to do with this at
all - this is strictly a matter of whether the CFRM CDS data set has an
active policy in it, or if instead the CFRM CDS data set is newly allocated
and empty when the new DR policy is loaded into it.

Here's a good explanation of the one-shot nature of the CFRMPOL parameterm
from Setting Up a Sysplex:

-=-=-=-=-=-
4.4.2  Performing System Level Initialization 

CFRM performs system level initialization based on the state of the active
CFRM policy. Valid CFRM policy states are:
   
o   The CFRM couple data set contains an active policy that is empty, that 
is, there is no currently active CFRM policy, either a policy that was
never started or policy usage was stopped. A policy is activated  
either by issuing a SETXCF START,POLICY command or specifying
CFRMPOL(POLICY-NAME) in the COUPLExx parmlib member used when the 
sysplex is IPLed. Policy usage is stopped by issuing a SETXCF
STOP,POLICY command.   
   
o   The CFRM couple data set contains an active policy that was properly
defined with the administrative data utility and then activated either
by using the SETXCF START command or the CFRMPOL parameter in the
COUPLExx parmlib member. 
-=-=-=-=-=-

At your first IPL, you can use CFRMPOL to load an appropriate CFRM policy. 
But, this only works once - if you make a mistake, you need to delete/define
new CFRM CDS data sets (to make them empty again) and reload the policy,
otherwise your next IPL will use the same policy as was activated by the
first IPL.

Brian

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote:

At our last DR exercise we had an incorrect CPU serial number in our
CFRM policy which resulted in a failure in our IPL. We fixed the CFRM
policy and re-wrote it replacing the incorrect policy (same policy name).

When we re-ipled, the system was still looking for the CF lpar with the
incorrect CPU serial number even though the CFRM policy with the old
serial number wasn't in the CFRM dataset. We couldn't get the system to
IPL until I deleted and redefined the SYSPLEX couple dataset.

Does the sysplex couple dataset retain information about the CFRM policy
in use other than the name of the last used CFRM policy?

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Re: What is ziip and zaap Training/doc

2010-04-09 Thread Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
There are also sessions from Share that have much on Specialty Engines.
I've had one out there called UPs and DOWNs of zIIPs and zAAPs, but you
May need to be a current member to get to it.  Only the most recent
conference
Materials are online immediately after the event.

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in preparing a presentation for  CA-WORLD 2010 (on IDMS exploitation of 
z/IIP processors)  - i relied heavily upon this document:

http://www.ca.com/Files/WhitePapers/ziip_exploitation_wp3.pdf 

it was very helpful to me in understanding the guts of speciality 
processors


Chris Hoelscher
IDMS/DB2 Database Architect
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
choelsc...@humana.com

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
I think many of you are lacking sensitivity for a very tough situation.  I
lost
many colleagues and friends this week, who were excellent technicians and
who really
worked in the trenches as many of us on the list do.  If you want to rant
about CA products
and solutions, the support you may or may not be getting, or the quality of
acquired
companies; by all means, go ahead.  It is an open forum.  But many of these
folks have
distinguished careers, families to support, and definitely don't need to
hear anyone's
opinion on their value.  And if you want to hide behind anonymous fictitious
names, also go
ahead; we already think less of you.  Sorry for the rant to those who don't
deserve it.

Have a good weekend. 

znor...@ca.com

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take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:50:35 -0700, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/ca_job_cuts/


No disrespect to the many actual CA workers, but having served my own
sentence there, I'm quite confident that they could lay off 1,000 bodies
without selecting any *workers*.


So what's your point?  And it's clear in your first sentence that some level
of personal opinion on the off-topic concern was intended, and yes, I expect
there are CA workers on this forum that have been disrespected.

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SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
As somebody who lost their job due to out-sourcing (twice), I agree.
Stop putzing and show compassion!
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:09:02 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a 
$50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

I think many of you are lacking sensitivity for a very tough situation.  I
lost
many colleagues and friends this week, who were excellent technicians and
who really
worked in the trenches as many of us on the list do.  If you want to rant
about CA products
and solutions, the support you may or may not be getting, or the quality of
acquired
companies; by all means, go ahead.  It is an open forum.  But many of these
folks have
distinguished careers, families to support, and definitely don't need to
hear anyone's
opinion on their value.  And if you want to hide behind anonymous fictitious
names, also go
ahead; we already think less of you.  Sorry for the rant to those who don't
deserve it.

Have a good weekend. 

znor...@ca.com

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take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:50:35 -0700, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/ca_job_cuts/


No disrespect to the many actual CA workers, but having served my own
sentence there, I'm quite confident that they could lay off 1,000 bodies
without selecting any *workers*.


So what's your point?  And it's clear in your first sentence that some level
of personal opinion on the off-topic concern was intended, and yes, I expect
there are CA workers on this forum that have been disrespected.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
Basically you hit the high points of the steps that occurred during the test 
with one exception. I did delete and redefine the CFRM dataset writing the 
correct policy into it. We ipled again and the d**m system was still looking 
for the coupling facility on the incorrect CPU. I then did the only other thing 
I could think of which was to delete and redefine the sysplex couple dataset 
and try again.

Mark Jacobs 


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Subject: Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship
 
I believe simply rewriting the policy was not sufficient.  Please tell me if
this is what you did:

1) First IPL at DR site specified CFRM CDS data set one.  This IPL
specified CFRMPOL(policy_a).  Policy_a was not correct.

2) Second IPL at DR site used the exact same CFRM CDS as in attempt 1. In
this IPL, you specified CFRMPOL(policy_b) or else you specified
CFRMPOL(policy_a) having first rewritten policy_a in the CFRM CDS prior to
the IPL.

This fails because the CFRMPOL parameter is only acted upon if there is NO
active policy in the CFRM CDS.

Here's the way I think about this, to keep this straight in my own mind:

Whenever it is necessary to IPL at DR with a new CFRM policy, the CFRM CDS
must be newly created.

By the way, in my experience, the Sysplex CDS has nothing to do with this at
all - this is strictly a matter of whether the CFRM CDS data set has an
active policy in it, or if instead the CFRM CDS data set is newly allocated
and empty when the new DR policy is loaded into it.

Here's a good explanation of the one-shot nature of the CFRMPOL parameterm
from Setting Up a Sysplex:

-=-=-=-=-=-
4.4.2  Performing System Level Initialization 

CFRM performs system level initialization based on the state of the active
CFRM policy. Valid CFRM policy states are:
   
o   The CFRM couple data set contains an active policy that is empty, that 
is, there is no currently active CFRM policy, either a policy that was
never started or policy usage was stopped. A policy is activated  
either by issuing a SETXCF START,POLICY command or specifying
CFRMPOL(POLICY-NAME) in the COUPLExx parmlib member used when the 
sysplex is IPLed. Policy usage is stopped by issuing a SETXCF
STOP,POLICY command.   
   
o   The CFRM couple data set contains an active policy that was properly
defined with the administrative data utility and then activated either
by using the SETXCF START command or the CFRMPOL parameter in the
COUPLExx parmlib member. 
-=-=-=-=-=-

At your first IPL, you can use CFRMPOL to load an appropriate CFRM policy. 
But, this only works once - if you make a mistake, you need to delete/define
new CFRM CDS data sets (to make them empty again) and reload the policy,
otherwise your next IPL will use the same policy as was activated by the
first IPL.

Brian

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote:

At our last DR exercise we had an incorrect CPU serial number in our
CFRM policy which resulted in a failure in our IPL. We fixed the CFRM
policy and re-wrote it replacing the incorrect policy (same policy name).

When we re-ipled, the system was still looking for the CF lpar with the
incorrect CPU serial number even though the CFRM policy with the old
serial number wasn't in the CFRM dataset. We couldn't get the system to
IPL until I deleted and redefined the SYSPLEX couple dataset.

Does the sysplex couple dataset retain information about the CFRM policy
in use other than the name of the last used CFRM policy?

--
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ASG

2010-04-09 Thread August Carideo
Does anyone know if Zeke, Zack, Oasis are available from anyone else
besides ASG
I rem some products CA had were also available from others vendors after
some type
of monopoly lawsuit. I can't rem if any of the above fell into that
category

thanks,
Augie

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Scott Rowe
Ted,
 
Ed did not make the comment, and it was not attributed to him, you misread.
 
Scott

 Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 4/9/2010 12:49 PM 
Back off the caffeine, dude.  All Ed did this time was post a link to the 
article.
Whatever his past sins, he did not deserve that ad hominem attack.

Making the comment about *workers* at CA was not a sin?

If he did not make that comment, then I appologise for my statements.

But, since it appeared to be attributed to him...
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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
I agree with you that deleting the CFRM CDS should have fixed our problem but 
I'm 99% sure I deleted and redefined and it still didn't work. Deleting and 
redefining the sysplex CDS and re-ipling did.

Mark Jacobs 


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Subject: Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship
 
Mark,

 The sysplex CDS contains no information whatsoever about the CFRM
policy or anything in it.

 The COUPLExx CFRMPOL statement only takes effect when there is no
active CFRM policy.  It won't help you if you are using the CFRM CDS from
your production site, or if you have mirrored the CFRM CDS from your
production site.  In those cases, the CFRM CDS contains the active policy
that was last in use in production, and CFRMPOL is irrelevant.  (This is one
of the reasons why IBM strongly recommends that you do not mirror packs
containing the CFRM CDS.)  CFRMPOL is intended for the case when you are
IPLing with a freshly-formatted CFRM CDS which has had policies defined but
which has never been used.  

 The only way I can make sense out of your scenario is if you deleted
and redefined your CFRM CDS, in which case the CFRMPOL specification would
have allowed you to come up with your corrected policy.  Deleting and
redefining the sysplex CDS shouldn't have any bearing on the situation.

 Bill Neiman
 Parallel Sysplex development, IBM

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread August Carideo
I know this is going around in circles but my dealings w/ CA have always
been
on the plus side and I deal with them on VM VSE and Z/OS
and have been on a  frequent  basis the past few weeks due to a major in
sourceing project going on here.
Keep in mind sometimes their answers are only as good as the info supplied
to them
It is very sad to hear of anyone loosing jobs in this economy, today CA
tomorrow who else ?
Augie



   
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I think many of you are lacking sensitivity for a very tough situation.  I
lost
many colleagues and friends this week, who were excellent technicians and
who really
worked in the trenches as many of us on the list do.  If you want to rant
about CA products
and solutions, the support you may or may not be getting, or the quality of
acquired
companies; by all means, go ahead.  It is an open forum.  But many of these
folks have
distinguished careers, families to support, and definitely don't need to
hear anyone's
opinion on their value.  And if you want to hide behind anonymous
fictitious
names, also go
ahead; we already think less of you.  Sorry for the rant to those who don't
deserve it.

Have a good weekend.

znor...@ca.com

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take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:50:35 -0700, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/ca_job_cuts/


No disrespect to the many actual CA workers, but having served my own
sentence there, I'm quite confident that they could lay off 1,000 bodies
without selecting any *workers*.


So what's your point?  And it's clear in your first sentence that some
level
of personal opinion on the off-topic concern was intended, and yes, I
expect
there are CA workers on this forum that have been disrespected.

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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Srivastava, Rajesh
One option which works for me..

Define a DR specific CFRM CPL dataset on live system.
Define DR specific CFRM in this DR specific CPL dataset.
Specify DR specific CFRM policy  / DR specific couple dataset in DR
specific couple member.
Mirror DR specific CFRM dataset.

Hope this helps.

Rajesh


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Subject: Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

I agree with you that deleting the CFRM CDS should have fixed our
problem but I'm 99% sure I deleted and redefined and it still didn't
work. Deleting and redefining the sysplex CDS and re-ipling did.

Mark Jacobs 


-Original Message-
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Sent: Fri 4/9/2010 2:19 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship
 
Mark,

 The sysplex CDS contains no information whatsoever about the CFRM
policy or anything in it.

 The COUPLExx CFRMPOL statement only takes effect when there is no
active CFRM policy.  It won't help you if you are using the CFRM CDS
from your production site, or if you have mirrored the CFRM CDS from
your production site.  In those cases, the CFRM CDS contains the active
policy that was last in use in production, and CFRMPOL is irrelevant.
(This is one of the reasons why IBM strongly recommends that you do not
mirror packs containing the CFRM CDS.)  CFRMPOL is intended for the case
when you are IPLing with a freshly-formatted CFRM CDS which has had
policies defined but which has never been used.  

 The only way I can make sense out of your scenario is if you
deleted and redefined your CFRM CDS, in which case the CFRMPOL
specification would have allowed you to come up with your corrected
policy.  Deleting and redefining the sysplex CDS shouldn't have any
bearing on the situation.

 Bill Neiman
 Parallel Sysplex development, IBM

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread zMan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Norman Hollander on DesertWiz 
norman.hollan...@desertwiz.biz wrote:

 I think many of you are lacking sensitivity for a very tough situation.  I
 lost many colleagues and friends this week, who were excellent technicians
 and
 who really worked in the trenches as many of us on the list do.  If you
 want to rant
 about CA products and solutions, the support you may or may not be getting,
 or the quality of
 acquired companies; by all means, go ahead.  It is an open forum.  But many
 of these
 folks have distinguished careers, families to support, and definitely don't
 need to
 hear anyone's opinion on their value.


OK, point taken. I feel abashed.

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Re: IDG073I Message

2010-04-09 Thread Chris Burgess
I think it may be some type reserve/release issue. I can have one LPAR up and 
no IGD073I messages. As soon as I bring another up, the messages start. SMS 
looks like it is chewing up a lot of CPU also. Below is what I saw in RMF III 
for job delays for SMS:

 RMF V1R10  Job Delays  Line 1 of 1 
 Command ===  Scroll === CSR  

 Samples: 100 System: P50D  Date: 04/09/10  Time: 15.10.00  Range: 100   Sec

 Job: SMS  Primary delay: Exclusive ENQ on resource SYSZIGDI,   
  ICMRT.CMDSADDR_LOCKED.

 Probable cause: Job requires use of a resource that is in use by another job.  


  Jobs Holding Resource 
 Job:  SMS  
 Holding:  56%  
 Status: Exclusive  

 --- Job Performance Summary ---
 Service   WFL -Using%- DLY IDL UKN  % Delayed for  Primary 
 CX ASID ClassP Cr  %   PRC DEV  %   %   %  PRC DEV STR SUB OPR ENQ Reason  
 S  0018 SYSSTC   1 52   55   5  56   0  40   0   0   0   0   0  56 SYSZIGDI





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 When I IPL them, they get hung up on SMS. I switched over to 
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 and the messages continue. Also, I deleted it and redefined 
 it and it didn't
 help. I appreciate any insight.

First SWAG is that the DASD they are on is not defined as SHARED and so is not 
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Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-09 Thread Clark Morris
On 9 Apr 2010 09:38:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:01:19 -0700, John Norgauer
john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu wrote:

Does the ICHRDSNT module have to be in a LNKLST'ed dataset? Or can it be
in PLPA?


As we document, it must be in a linklist library.  There is no reason to
have it in LPA, as that would merely waste space and offers no performance
advantages.

From the RACF System Programmer's Guide,
quote
This table resides in SYS1.LINKLIB or any other APF-authorized linklist
library. It must be linked with RMODE(24). 

Why RMODE(24) in 2010?  I am amazed at the number of things that still
have to run below the line at this late date.  The DCB should have
been dead ended and the ACB should have been designed so that it could
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OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-09 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, can someone direct me to where I can find information on why
and how I would connect an OS/400 to z/OS running on a z10?


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Re: Strange email from IBM

2010-04-09 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Tom, 



Pure SPAM.  And the spoof mails also pretend to be from other well known 
companies.  I would not be surprised if the links led to malware or virus 
payloads.  I had one like the one you describe, it was supposedly from 
Microsoft. 



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That's what I figured.  Thanks. 

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 Most likely some spammer has harvested this (or another) list (again)! 
 I would forward the email to your anti-spam provider. 
 
 I checked jigsaw. It seems to be a spammer's paradise. 
 It purports to gather contact info from wherever they can get it. 
 
 HTH, 
 
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 company as is the opt out link provided by the email.  I was 
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 looks kind of strange to me.  I would think that IBM would go through 
 other channels than picking names off of oddball web sites. 
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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m h...

2010-04-09 Thread Chris Craddock
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote:


 In a message dated 4/9/2010 9:14:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
 maryanne4...@gmail.com writes:

 Um, it wasn't Ed Gould, it was zman.



True and regardless of who posted the original story it is at best
insensitive to take any pleasure in seeing 1000 people lose their jobs. FWIW
the overwhelming majority of people I worked with at CA are great and
today's CA is not the big bad CA of old. But no matter what you might think
of the company they work for, those are real people with families and
responsibilities. Now they are going to be facing a really tough time. A
little empathy would be a much more civilized response.


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Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-09 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:28:40 -0300, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca
wrote:

Why RMODE(24) in 2010?  I am amazed at the number of things that still
have to run below the line at this late date.  The DCB should have
been dead ended and the ACB should have been designed so that it could
handle QSAM, BSAM, et al.

There's no penalty for having this module RMODE(24) as it's only loaded
temporarily and then deleted, in an address space that's not storage
constrained.

So, even in 2010, why bother changing working code for no known benefit?  We
have plenty of things to do that will provide benefits.

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Re: ASG

2010-04-09 Thread Wayne Driscoll
August,
In 1999 when CA purchased Platinum Technology, the Justice Department 
required that CA divest of these products.  If I recall correctly, the 
products, along with some RD and support (and possibly other) assets were 
placed in escrow.  At some point ASG purchased the products.  I don't 
remember the exact details, but I highly doubt that these products could 
be legally licensed from anyone other than ASG or their agents at this 
point in time.

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Does anyone know if Zeke, Zack, Oasis are available from anyone else
besides ASG
I rem some products CA had were also available from others vendors after
some type
of monopoly lawsuit. I can't rem if any of the above fell into that
category

thanks,
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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Brian Peterson
Without logs, it is only my imagination where debugging takes place.  Given
that disclaimer

When you said you did delete and redefine the CFRM dataset, is it possible
that you actually created a new CFRM dataset, and then tried to update
COUPLExx with the new data set names and/or volser for your IPL?

I am asking this, because one thing the Sysplex CDS does keep is the data
set name and volume serial number of the various other couple CDS data sets
used by the sysplex.  So, if you thought you were using a new CDS by
updating COUPLExx, you might not have.

When I do DR tests, I delete and create empty a CFRM CDS on the same volume
with the same name as my original, and then load that new CDS with my DR
CFRM policy.  It is when using this technique that IPL is always clean the
first time - the CFRMPOL is processed, and DR IPL works.

Just a thought.

Brian

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:54:49 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote:

Basically you hit the high points of the steps that occurred during the
test with one exception. I did delete and redefine the CFRM dataset writing
the correct policy into it. We ipled again and the d**m system was still
looking for the coupling facility on the incorrect CPU. I then did the only
other thing I could think of which was to delete and redefine the sysplex
couple dataset and try again.

Mark Jacobs 

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Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-09 Thread zMan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:

 Hello all, can someone direct me to where I can find information on why
 and how I would connect an OS/400 to z/OS running on a z10?


I think the question needs more detail: what's the problem you're trying to
solve? What kind of connectivity do you need?

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m h...

2010-04-09 Thread zMan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com wrote:

 True and regardless of who posted the original story it is at best
 insensitive to take any pleasure in seeing 1000 people lose their jobs.
 FWIW
 the overwhelming majority of people I worked with at CA are great and
 today's CA is not the big bad CA of old. But no matter what you might think
 of the company they work for, those are real people with families and
 responsibilities. Now they are going to be facing a really tough time. A
 little empathy would be a much more civilized response.


Now I feel even guiltier. Mea culpa, etc.

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Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
I deleted and redefined the CFRM dataset using the same name and volser so no 
change to the couplexx member was needed.

Mark Jacobs


-Original Message-
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Sent: Fri 4/9/2010 5:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship
 
Without logs, it is only my imagination where debugging takes place.  Given
that disclaimer

When you said you did delete and redefine the CFRM dataset, is it possible
that you actually created a new CFRM dataset, and then tried to update
COUPLExx with the new data set names and/or volser for your IPL?

I am asking this, because one thing the Sysplex CDS does keep is the data
set name and volume serial number of the various other couple CDS data sets
used by the sysplex.  So, if you thought you were using a new CDS by
updating COUPLExx, you might not have.

When I do DR tests, I delete and create empty a CFRM CDS on the same volume
with the same name as my original, and then load that new CDS with my DR
CFRM policy.  It is when using this technique that IPL is always clean the
first time - the CFRMPOL is processed, and DR IPL works.

Just a thought.

Brian

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:54:49 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote:

Basically you hit the high points of the steps that occurred during the
test with one exception. I did delete and redefine the CFRM dataset writing
the correct policy into it. We ipled again and the d**m system was still
looking for the coupling facility on the incorrect CPU. I then did the only
other thing I could think of which was to delete and redefine the sysplex
couple dataset and try again.

Mark Jacobs 

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Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-09 Thread Ward, Mike S
We just acquired an institution that has an AS/400 running some
applications. I think they can connect to us using EE, but I'm not sure
if by doing that we can access those applications from the zbox or if we
can access the data on the AS/400. In other words, I'm not familiar
enough with the AS/400 to talk intelligently about host connectivity.
So, any information about how or why would be welcome.

Thanks

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On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:

 Hello all, can someone direct me to where I can find information on
why
 and how I would connect an OS/400 to z/OS running on a z10?


I think the question needs more detail: what's the problem you're trying
to
solve? What kind of connectivity do you need?

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Ed did not make the comment, and it was not attributed to him, you misread.
 
The quoted text made it appear as so.

Since I have filtered out any posts from him, either direct, or through the 
forum, I can go only by what I see quoted by others.

It appeared, in the text I saw posted, it was something he originally said.

For that, I'm sorry.

For my opinion of him, I'm not.
Especially after the disparaging comments he's made about me.

It appears that everybody else is allowed to make ad hominem attacks.

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Re: ASG

2010-04-09 Thread August Carideo
thank you for the response
I know on VSE there are a few products that are basically the same and
choice is from CA
or another vendor, I could not rem if this held true for the ASG products
aslo
the confusion may have been with Oasis which was needed to run other
products
Augie



   
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August,
In 1999 when CA purchased Platinum Technology, the Justice Department
required that CA divest of these products.  If I recall correctly, the
products, along with some RD and support (and possibly other) assets were
placed in escrow.  At some point ASG purchased the products.  I don't
remember the exact details, but I highly doubt that these products could
be legally licensed from anyone other than ASG or their agents at this
point in time.

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Does anyone know if Zeke, Zack, Oasis are available from anyone else
besides ASG
I rem some products CA had were also available from others vendors after
some type
of monopoly lawsuit. I can't rem if any of the above fell into that
category

thanks,
Augie

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Re: ASG

2010-04-09 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 4/9/2010 4:16:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
wdri...@us.ibm.com writes:

products, along with some RD and support (and possibly other)  assets were 
placed in escrow.  At some point ASG purchased the  products.  I don't 
remember the exact details, but I highly doubt  that these products could 



But wasn't it more complicated in that  then ASG merged with Beta
and some of the products stayed Beta and  some went to ASG? Then somebody 
else bought some of the Web  products. 




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Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 April 2010 17:49, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
 We just acquired an institution that has an AS/400 running some
 applications. I think they can connect to us using EE, but I'm not sure
 if by doing that we can access those applications from the zbox or if we
 can access the data on the AS/400. In other words, I'm not familiar
 enough with the AS/400 to talk intelligently about host connectivity.
 So, any information about how or why would be welcome.

There are several approaches:

The AS/400 has an ftp server and client, so if you just need to
transfer data, that's an easy start. But keep in mind that all (well,
most) AS/400 files are database-like structured things, and someone
has to interpret the data. The good news is that it's EBCDIC. (Well,
again, it's *mostly* EBCDIC. The IFS (UNIX-style) files are in
Unicode.)

You can similarly set up IP printing, so that an AS/400 app can have a
print key that sends to an IP printer on your network, or to InfoPrint
Server on your z/OS. Probably to RSCS too, for that matter.

The AS/400 native (coax-attached) terminal is the 5250, and there is
TN5250 over TCP/IP just like the TN3270 we all use on z/OS. You can
easily enough find PC-based emulators for this protocol (PCOMM among
others), so using that you can log on to an AS/400 green screen and
run the app as it was intended.

Some AS/400s (or perhaps some AS/400 apps) support TN3270, but I don't
know enough to say whether that support is at some OS layer or has to
be specific to the app. Certainly you can logon using TN3270, but the
PF keys and such are weird.

The above should get you connected at a basic level. Going further,
with a TCP/IP stack, you can write or modify programs to talk directly
to each other as on any platform. There is also SNA support, but
whether you want to start doing new stuff with SNA in 2010 is another
matter.

If you have IP connectivity to the new box already, get yourself a
TN5250, and try to connect to port 23. TN5250 is a lot like TN3270 in
that it's a telnet extension, options are negotiated in ASCII, and
then it runs in EBCDIC.

And get used to learning a whole new green-screen way of doing things!
It *looks* like a 3270 until you actually try to do anything. :-(

Tony H.

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Font names for AFP fonts

2010-04-09 Thread Linda Mooney
Greetings! 



I have looked and searched, but sadly, I have not found... 



We have PSF and use the AFP font libraries.  I need to find something that can 
tell me the font family name and size of the fonts using the font library 
member names, as well as the names used in OGL source.  



For example, these are a few of the fonts in the OGL source - 

N46A  

BRR9  

A075AI 

N26309 

A10500 

T075JC 

A055AC 





We don't have InfoPrint 



Tia, 



Linda 

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread zMan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 It appears that everybody else is allowed to make ad hominem attacks.


Ted, not saying YOU said this, but someone characterized my lame attempt at
humor as an ad hominem attack, which it wasn't. Just sayin'...

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Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Is the OS/400 still marketed and supported by IBM?  


Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
IBM Global Services Division
Dubuque, Iowa
414-477-7259

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Scott Barry
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:38:59 -0400, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote:

snip

Ted, not saying YOU said this, but someone characterized my lame attempt at
humor as an ad hominem attack, which it wasn't. Just sayin'...


Your disparaging comment about a particular group was not humorous in the
least bit, regardless of who you are under the IBM-MAIN moniker.  

An apology to the IBM-MAIN list audience would be a reasonable recovery attempt.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: Font names for AFP fonts

2010-04-09 Thread Natarajan Mohan
Linda,

These are documented on AFP font or compatibility fonts etc. From the listing 
all of them are coded fonts, you would have to add X0 in front of them and you 
would find them in FONT300 libraries or FONT240 depending on your printer Ex. 
SYSX.FONT300.

http://www4.infoprintsolutionscompany.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.printers.afpproducts/com.ibm.printers.guidetooutput/c5pu3mst50.htm

from your example if you look on X0A075AI you will notice it has information 
related to the font identifier/code page being used and the corresponding 
character set. A075AI is old font called SERIF font and no longer sold by IBM. 
The equivalent font you can find in AFP FONT Collection is HELVETICA. Same goes 
to older SANS SERIF font and equivalent is TIMES NEW ROMAN. So for an SERIF 
font A075AI a substitute font would be HELVETICA X0H220A1 which would have 
almost all the character set.

X - Coded Font
0 - Coded Font
H - Font type family (Helvetica)
2 - Typeface (Roman Medium)
2 - Codepage category (Latin1)
0 - Complement (Latin1)
A - Typographic font point size starts at 6 and go through A-Z (11 Points)
1 - Coded Font

BRR9 is a book font (equivalent would be X08410BC)
N26309 Times new roman
A10500 SONORAN SANS SERIF
T075JC SONORAN SERIF (equivalent would be X0N410JC)
A055AC SONORAN SANS SERIF (equivalent would be X0H210AC)

The names in OGL is usually defined with FONT followed by coded font name 
(without the X0). I don't think there is any manuals available (unless you have 
older edition) that would describe the SONORAN font's and most of them are 
replaced with newer fonts on Expanded Core Fonts. The newer font's in AFP 
collection manuals are available online

Technical Reference for IBM Expanded Core Fonts

Font Summary for AFP Font Collection
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/prsys/pdfs/54456332.pdf

A Guide to Understanding AFP Fonts
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/software/mktsupport/techdocs/afpuser3.pdf

Hope this helps,
Natarajan

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Greetings!



I have looked and searched, but sadly, I have not found...



We have PSF and use the AFP font libraries.  I need to find something that can 
tell me the font family name and size of the fonts using the font library 
member names, as well as the names used in OGL source.



For example, these are a few of the fonts in the OGL source -

N46A

BRR9

A075AI

N26309

A10500

T075JC

A055AC





We don't have InfoPrint



Tia,



Linda

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How to define couple links using HCD

2010-04-09 Thread ibmnew
Hi all

 We want to replace out sysplex time with STP. We purchased two CFs(Z10) and 
installed two couple links with 

ICB-4 between the CFs.

Could you help us to define the couple links using HCD for it. Thanks a lot!

Best Regards,

Jason Cai

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Re: Font names for AFP fonts

2010-04-09 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 4/9/2010 7:47:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
nmo...@edfund.org writes:

These are documented on AFP font or compatibility fonts etc. From  the 
listing all of them are coded fonts, you would have to add X0 in front of  them 
and you would find them in FONT300 libraries or FONT240 
 

Haven't had to do this in a while. Used to be a   program that would read 
your
FONT library and make a DCFINDEX member with types and  code pages. Does
it still exist? I searched the PSF 4.2 Shelf and  came up empty. 


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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread Ed Gould

SNIP_
 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/ca_job_cuts/


No disrespect to the many actual CA workers, but having served my own
sentence there, I'm quite confident that they could lay off 1,000 bodies
without selecting any *workers*.

SNIP---

First of all I did *NOT* write the article. If you want to go after the writer 
he apparently writes for Channel Register. 

I did *NOT* forward this because I do not like CA. It was my attempt to show 
that a lot of MF companies are suffering from the M/F almost extinction.

As for Ted, since he cannot configure his email program correctly he has no one 
to complain about except his email program. 

Ted is being Ted so pass it off because it was Ted.

Enough said.

Ed




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Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 April 2010 19:45, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 Is the OS/400 still marketed and supported by IBM?

Well, people are fairly casual about the terminology, and use AS/400,
System i, i, and iSeries as equivalents, unless there's reason to be
very specific. Sort of like calling z/OS MVS.

Tony H.

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Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-09 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sat, Apr 10th, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Tony Harminc wrote:

 Sort of like calling z/OS MVS.

When I go to the (IBM) manuals, I open the MVS bookshelf.
QED.

Shane ...

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Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-09 Thread zMan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Scott Barry sba...@sbbworks.com wrote:

 Your disparaging comment about a particular group was not humorous in the
 least bit, regardless of who you are under the IBM-MAIN moniker.

 An apology to the IBM-MAIN list audience would be a reasonable recovery
 attempt.


I believe I said that, Captain. But in case it was too subtle for you:
Sorry about that. I humbly apologize. Lo siento. Je m'excuse. Я прошу
прощения.

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