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Re: Dynamic Allocation 1.9 - 1.11?
IBM does not refuse to look into a difference when it's undocumented, no matter what your previous release was. Possibly you need to go back and present the issue again. I suppose that it's possible that you were dealing with someone who was inexperienced in how to handle the problem. If they can't point out that there was a documented change, then they will work on the problem. This is actually one that you could turn over to your marketing person, or business partner. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: Batch DAE?
Here's the JCL that I run. I get no output from it. //ISPBTCH EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=7M, // DYNAMNBR=40,TIME=1440, // PARM='ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP SYS1.DAE)' //SYSPROC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBLSCLI0 //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBLSCLI0 //SYSTSIN DD * PROFILE NOPREFIX //SYSEXEC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBLSCLI0 //ISPLIST DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=(LRECL=121,BLKSIZE=1210,RECFM=FBA) //ISPLOG DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=(LRECL=125,BLKSIZE=129,RECFM=VA) //IPCSDDIR DD DSN=MY.IPCS.DUMPDIR,DISP=SHR //SYSTSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD DUMMY //ISPPLIB DD DSN=SYS1.ISPPLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISRPLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSPNL0,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYSA.SDSFSRCH.PANELS,DISP=SHR //ISPMLIB DD DSN=SYS1.ISPMLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISRMLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSMSG0,DISP=SHR //ISPSLIB DD DSN=SYS1.ISPSLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISRSLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSKEL0,DISP=SHR //ISPTLIB DD DSN=SYS1.ISPTLIB,DISP=SHR //DD DSN=SYS1.SBPXTENU,DISP=SHR //DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSTBL0,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISRTLIB,DISP=SHR //ISPPROF DD UNIT=VIO,DISP=(,DELETE), // SPACE=(TRK,(1,1,1),RLSE), // DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120,RECFM=FB) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Batch DAE? On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:48:41 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.com wrote: Actually, once I take a closer look at the run. The exec gets RC=20 executing the SELECT. *-* ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP 'SYS1.DAE') ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP 'SYS1.DAE') +++ RC(20) +++ Jon - Please ensure that SYS1.SBLSCLI0 is in the SYSEXEC DD statement of the JCL you submit. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Batch DAE?
I got a little further with this, but get error messages on too much display output: //ISPBTCH EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=7M //SYSPROC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBLSCLI0 //SYSTSIN DD * PROFILE PREFIX(SYS1) ADYDSP DAE //SYSEXEC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBLSCLI0 //ISPLIST DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=(LRECL=121,BLKSIZE=1210,RECFM=FBA //ISPLOG DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=(LRECL=125,BLKSIZE=129,RECFM=VA) //IPCSDDIR DD DSN=E008058.DDIR,DISP=SHR //SYSTSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTERM DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD DUMMY //ISPPLIB DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSPNL0,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISP.SISPPENU,DISP=SHR //ISPMLIB DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSMSG0,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISP.SISPMENU,DISP=SHR //ISPSLIB DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSKEL0,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISP.SISPSENU,DISP=SHR //ISPTLIB DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSTBL0,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISP.SISPTENU,DISP=SHR //ISPPROF DD UNIT=VIO,DISP=(,DELETE), // SPACE=(TRK,(1,1,1),RLSE), // DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120,RECFM=FB) _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 7:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Batch DAE? Here's the JCL that I run. I get no output from it. //ISPBTCH EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=7M, // DYNAMNBR=40,TIME=1440, // PARM='ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP SYS1.DAE)' //SYSPROC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBLSCLI0 //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBLSCLI0 //SYSTSIN DD * PROFILE NOPREFIX //SYSEXEC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBLSCLI0 //ISPLIST DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=(LRECL=121,BLKSIZE=1210,RECFM=FBA) //ISPLOG DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=(LRECL=125,BLKSIZE=129,RECFM=VA) //IPCSDDIR DD DSN=MY.IPCS.DUMPDIR,DISP=SHR //SYSTSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD DUMMY //ISPPLIB DD DSN=SYS1.ISPPLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISRPLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSPNL0,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYSA.SDSFSRCH.PANELS,DISP=SHR //ISPMLIB DD DSN=SYS1.ISPMLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISRMLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSMSG0,DISP=SHR //ISPSLIB DD DSN=SYS1.ISPSLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISRSLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSKEL0,DISP=SHR //ISPTLIB DD DSN=SYS1.ISPTLIB,DISP=SHR //DD DSN=SYS1.SBPXTENU,DISP=SHR //DD DSN=SYS1.SBLSTBL0,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.ISRTLIB,DISP=SHR //ISPPROF DD UNIT=VIO,DISP=(,DELETE), // SPACE=(TRK,(1,1,1),RLSE), // DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120,RECFM=FB) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Batch DAE? On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:48:41 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.com wrote: Actually, once I take a closer look at the run. The exec gets RC=20 executing the SELECT. *-* ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP 'SYS1.DAE') ISPEXEC SELECT CMD(%ADYDSP 'SYS1.DAE') +++ RC(20) +++ Jon - Please ensure that SYS1.SBLSCLI0 is in the SYSEXEC DD statement of the JCL you submit. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain
Re: Sp of load
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:02:39 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Would anyone know what subpool load loads into Yes. That was uncalled for. PKB We're here to help, not obsfuscate. You didn't offer any help. I expected better of you. Not like certain cretins on this list! Nice reply, Ted. You, who so often complains of ad hominem attacks. Often incorrectly, I might add. As Shmuel pointed out, it depends. The OP apparently didn't bother trying to look it up. I'd have to crack open a diagnostic reference to answer accurately and I'm not about to do that for someone who isn't willing to research. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
And a CNN interview in costume. http://newsstream.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/21/tron-legacy-how-to-look-28-years-younger/?on.cnn=2 On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, December 22, 2010, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Speak of the Devil, and he makes time magazine. http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/22/internet-legend-tron-guy-banned-from-seeing-tron-legacy-in-famous-suit/ My wife pointed that out to me and she was utterly shocked when I casually replied oh yeah, I know Jay Somehow she didn't really see it as a brush with celebrity. (sorry Jay) CC -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: X-memory POST question
The quick post approach of using CS to set the post bit of a not-waiting ECB is a fully valid, documented approach. Of course it is extremely important to do it using the right key and to have some reason to believe that the storage you are trying to update has not been freed (and potentially re-obtained by a different job) This goes to why, in many cases, XM Post is not safe, as it is POST by ASID and ASIDs can be reused, and, even within an ASID that is an initiator, a job could end and another start. Since POST by STOKEN with TCBTOKEN is not available, you need to do this yourself, unless you know that the target ASID cannot terminate (hence its STOKEN cannot change) and that it is not an initiator (such that the old job could end and a new job could start). The proper protocol includes -- capturing the ECB owner's STOKEN -- capturing the ECB owner's TCBTOKEN (could be any task that is expected to have the same persistence characteristics of the ECB, such as the ASCBXTCB task when the job is running -- scheduling an SRB with STOKEN to the poster's ASID, passing the TTOKEN and the key to use -- within the SRB: -- obtaining the local lock -- using the TCBTOKEN service to validate that the task is still OK -- issuing branch-entry post -- releasing the local lock Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sp of load
The OP apparently didn't bother trying to look it up. And this does tend to be the OP's modus operandi. Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 07:16:43 -0600 From: m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Sp of load To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:02:39 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Would anyone know what subpool load loads into Yes. That was uncalled for. PKB We're here to help, not obsfuscate. You didn't offer any help. I expected better of you. Not like certain cretins on this list! Nice reply, Ted. You, who so often complains of ad hominem attacks. Often incorrectly, I might add. As Shmuel pointed out, it depends. The OP apparently didn't bother trying to look it up. I'd have to crack open a diagnostic reference to answer accurately and I'm not about to do that for someone who isn't willing to research. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sp of load
Would anyone know what subpool load loads into For non GLOBAL=YES requests, please read section 4.6.1.4 Using the LOAD macro in the Assembler Services Guide. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. DO NOT DO THIS. In the general case there is no way to do this without introducing system integrity problems. And also do not use an SVC to return control to an unauthorized caller in an authorized state. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Not to mention the grief you would get from your auditors -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. DO NOT DO THIS. In the general case there is no way to do this without introducing system integrity problems. And also do not use an SVC to return control to an unauthorized caller in an authorized state. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
And I saw the South Park episode with his likeness the other day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_on_Strike Mark On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:34:28 -0600, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Speak of the Devil, and he makes time magazine. http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/22/internet-legend-tron-guy-banned-from-seeing-tron-legacy-in-famous-suit/ On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:16 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: What is your new e-mail address? Thanks. Speaking of Jay, I saw a neighbor walking a dog last night. The dog had a coat on with white reflective piping around it: my immediate thought was, Hey, a Tron suit! -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: X-memory POST question
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:30:25 -0500 Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: :The quick post approach of using CS to set the post bit of a not-waiting :ECB is a fully valid, documented approach. :Of course it is extremely important to do it using the right key and to :have some reason to believe that the storage you are trying to update has :not been freed (and potentially re-obtained by a different job) :This goes to why, in many cases, XM Post is not safe, as it is POST by :ASID and ASIDs can be reused, and, even within an ASID that is an :initiator, a job could end and another start. Since POST by STOKEN with :TCBTOKEN is not available, you need to do this yourself, unless you know :that the target ASID cannot terminate (hence its STOKEN cannot change) and :that it is not an initiator (such that the old job could end and a new job :could start). :The proper protocol includes :-- capturing the ECB owner's STOKEN :-- capturing the ECB owner's TCBTOKEN (could be any task that is expected :to have the same persistence characteristics of the ECB, such as the :ASCBXTCB task when the job is running :-- scheduling an SRB with STOKEN to the poster's ASID, passing the TTOKEN :and the key to use :-- within the SRB: :-- obtaining the local lock :-- using the TCBTOKEN service to validate that the task is still OK :-- issuing branch-entry post :-- releasing the local lock Are you implying that one should open an APAR against XM POST as an integrity exposure? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
In aanlktikf8jga+hn6zn_8ncu-x5src9t4vb9=u6j06...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/22/2010 at 10:34 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/22/internet-legend-tron-guy-banned-from-seeing-tron-legacy-in-famous-suit/ The message that I get is that they don't want me to watch the movie. disney, isn't it? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
Sounds like it was the theater staff that stopped him - no connection to Disney. On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net shmuel%2bibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In aanlktikf8jga+hn6zn_8ncu-x5src9t4vb9=u6j06...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/22/2010 at 10:34 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/22/internet-legend-tron-guy-banned-from-seeing-tron-legacy-in-famous-suit/ The message that I get is that they don't want me to watch the movie. disney, isn't it? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.htmlhttp://patriot.net/%7Eshmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sp of load
Thank you -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sp of load Would anyone know what subpool load loads into For non GLOBAL=YES requests, please read section 4.6.1.4 Using the LOAD macro in the Assembler Services Guide. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LPAR Optimization
Assuming you have enough concurrent work happening (like Ted said about INITs and max TSO users), I would think about changing SYSA and SYSC to both use 4 LPs. With SYSA and SYSC competing for all four processors, SYSB can float around and use free cycles. This assumes you do not have a single large address space that would really like to have a full (or almost full) LP to its self (e.g. CICS, IMS, DB2, ). If your workload is really a single (or 2) address space in each LPAR, consider going to LPARs with only 2 LPs for SYSA and SYSC. Your 7 percent of unused cycles represents about 45 MIPS on a 2096-Q04 (640 MIPS). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REFRPROT and BMC database tools
BMC provided PTF BPQ5422 as the fix for the problem we reported. They advised after application of this PTF and requisites the BMC products Change Accumulation Plus, Image Copy Plus and Recovery Plus for IMS will be compatible with the REFRPROT option. Support also advised that the BMC Recovery Manager for IMS product was not affected by the REFRPROT implementation (no PTFs are required for the IRM product). Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Team Leader mailto:sknut...@geico.com (office) 301.986.3574 (cell) 301.996.1318 Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: REFRPROT and BMC database tools IBM provided the REFRPROT option with z/OS 1.9 to allow customer sites to invoke additional protection from damage to read only refreshable modules. http://www.share.org/Portals/0/BitBuckets/36.pdf The BMC Backup and Recovery products are still not compatible with that option and BMC has not been able to provide any information on when they expect to support this . For the BMC utilities Change Accumulation Plus, Image Copy Plus, Recovery Manager for IMS and Recovery Plus for IMS there is no circumvention to this problem. To make this easier to recognize for others the failure might look something like this *680 BMC8354R DBRC CANNOT BE INITIALIZED - START DBUSS AND REPLY R TO RETRY OR REPLY C TO CANCEL BMC8354C DBRC INITIALIZATION FAILED (ICP) CSV019I REQUESTED MODULE DBITERA1 NOT ACCESSED, IS IN NON-APF LIBRARY/CONCATENATION CSV028I ABEND306-0C JOBNAME=DSS37ZVW STEPNAME=JS001 +BMC8300C DBRC SIGNOFF FAILED; SSID MUST BE REMOVED MANUALLY +BMC8522C CONTROL CARD PROCESSING COMPLETED WITH ERRORS (ICP) This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sp of load
In 723403994-1293084149-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-9982769...@bda506.bisx.prod.on.blackberry, on 12/23/2010 at 06:02 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said: Not like certain cretins on this list! Hypocrite. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
In f393f47ecbe9fc4aa71b2a242c0b689512eff63...@hfdpmsgcms01.aeth.aetna.com, on 12/23/2010 at 09:15 AM, Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.com said: Not to mention the grief you would get from your auditors I wish; the last time that I dealt with an auditor in that context, he pick up an imaginary integrity exposure but failed to notice the hole big enough to float an aircraft carrier through. I was, alas, under orders to not point out the real exposure. Just once I would like to encounter an auditor experienced enough to find real problems before they can bite me, instead of reading a worthless cookbook. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: X-memory POST question
In ofc0c5d821.29d09f66-on85257802.0048db85-85257802.004a3...@us.ibm.com, on 12/23/2010 at 08:30 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said: Of course it is extremely important to do it using the right key and to have some reason to believe that the storage you are trying to update has not been freed (and potentially re-obtained by a different job) Is there an option in XM POST to support the (not so) new address space reuse feature? If so, what are the residual gotcha's? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: Sp of load
Nice reply, Ted. You, who so often complains of ad hominem attacks. Often incorrectly, I might add. If you are (indirectly) stating that this was an ad hominem attack, I believe you're incorrect. I was condemning the action, not the poster. I still respect the individual. I just believe that he could have , at least, just told the OP where to look it up, even if he didn't answer the question. But, you've already made up your mind, so I'll not nother the list with any more on this topic. Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca /ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JAVA and SCLM
I am trying to incorporate JAVA within one of my SCLM structures. I am familiar with Unix services on the z/OS 1.11 system so I was wondering is there a description of what needs to be set-up for both the SCLM and the Unix services in order to be able to promote a JAVA program up through the SCLM structure? Any help is greatly appreciated. We don't have SCLM Developer Toolkit or any other tools. Thanks. Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain private, confidential, and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, employee, or agent responsible for delivering this message, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original e-mail message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sp of load
On 12/23/2010 8:51 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 723403994-1293084149-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-9982769...@bda506.bisx.prod.on.blackberry, on 12/23/2010 at 06:02 AM, Ted MacNEILeamacn...@yahoo.ca said: Not like certain cretins on this list! Hypocrite. Hey! Both you guys! These are hard economic times, especially for mainframers. Let's have a little civilty, a little kindness. Peace on Earth. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our new tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: X-memory POST question
On 23 December 2010 09:43, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:30:25 -0500 Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: [...] :This goes to why, in many cases, XM Post is not safe, [...] Are you implying that one should open an APAR against XM POST as an integrity exposure? It's hard to see how a service that is offered only to authorized programs could constitute a violation of the MVS system integrity statement. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: X-memory POST question
:The quick post approach of using CS to set the post bit of a not-waiting :ECB is a fully valid, documented approach. :Of course it is extremely important to do it using the right key and to :have some reason to believe that the storage you are trying to update has :not been freed (and potentially re-obtained by a different job) :This goes to why, in many cases, XM Post is not safe, as it is POST by :ASID and ASIDs can be reused, and, even within an ASID that is an :initiator, a job could end and another start. Since POST by STOKEN with :TCBTOKEN is not available, you need to do this yourself, unless you know :that the target ASID cannot terminate (hence its STOKEN cannot change) and :that it is not an initiator (such that the old job could end and a new job :could start). :The proper protocol includes :-- capturing the ECB owner's STOKEN :-- capturing the ECB owner's TCBTOKEN (could be any task that is expected :to have the same persistence characteristics of the ECB, such as the :ASCBXTCB task when the job is running :-- scheduling an SRB with STOKEN to the poster's ASID, passing the TTOKEN :and the key to use :-- within the SRB: :-- obtaining the local lock :-- using the TCBTOKEN service to validate that the task is still OK :-- issuing branch-entry post :-- releasing the local lock Are you implying that one should open an APAR against XM POST as an integrity exposure? No. We are saying that XM POST requires that you serialize against termination of the target address space across the call to XM POST, and you serialize against the ECB storage being freed from the time that XM POST is called all the way to the asynchronous completion of the XM POST SRB. If, for example, you are XM POSTing an ECB which never gets freed in a non-memtermable address space, then these requirements are easily met. For more fluid cases, these requirements may be more difficult (or impossible) to meet. PAUSE/RELEASE is designed to avoid these kinds of issues. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Do you really think most auditors would notice something like that? Most of the few auditors I worked with didn't know much about MVS, although I did work with one that really knew his stuff. Of course, if you introduced instability to your system, the auditors would notice that, but then you'd have a lot more problems than just the auditors. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer IBM Global Services Division Dubuque, Iowa 414-477-7259 - Original Message - From: Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.com Not to mention the grief you would get from your auditors Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. DO NOT DO THIS. In the general case there is no way to do this without introducing system integrity problems. And also do not use an SVC to return control to an unauthorized caller in an authorized state. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
At first, I was going to admonish you and ask you what this had to do with Paging? Then I read the article at the link below and noticed that the subject was Paging Jay Maynard, the guy in the link. I had a good laugh! Although I must say, in defense of the movie theater, that if he wanted to watch the movie with all his lights blinking, that could be quite distracting. I would have let him stay if he turned off all the lights, but the article didn't say if that was discussed or not. Oh well, it seems like Friday to me, because I have the day off today. Its great to be at home in Milwaukee for a couple of extra days. To all: Have a wonderful and Merry Christmas, and remember the reason for the season! I suspect Jesus gets lost in the shuffle and hubub of Christmas way too often. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Dubuque, Iowa 414-477-7259 - Original Message - From: Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Paging Jay Maynard On Wednesday, December 22, 2010, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Speak of the Devil, and he makes time magazine. http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/22/internet-legend-tron-guy-banned-from-seeing-tron-legacy-in-famous-suit/ My wife pointed that out to me and she was utterly shocked when I casually replied oh yeah, I know Jay Somehow she didn't really see it as a brush with celebrity. (sorry Jay) CC -- This email might be from the artist formerly known as CC (or not) You be the judge. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
On 12/23/2010 1:42 PM, Eric Bielefeld wrote: To all: Have a wonderful and Merry Christmas, and remember the reason for the season! I suspect Jesus gets lost in the shuffle and hubub of Christmas way too often. I appreciate, and would like to reciprocate, the sentiment, but Jesus was born in Spring, and we're celebrating now only because church elders co-opted a pagan celebration of the solstice. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: Happy holidays
Too late! You only have one chance to make a good first impression. ;-) Seasons' greetings anyway! Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:34:06 + From: aurora.della...@ca.com Subject: Happy holidays To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Dear colleagues, Just a quick email to wish you and yours a very peaceful and happy festive season. Happy holidays. Peace. Aurora *** sent via mobile email *** Aurora Emanuela Dell'Anno CA MSC Mobile: +44 (0)7768 235 339 please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: X-memory POST question
At 12:31 -0500 on 12/23/2010, Tony Harminc wrote about Re: X-memory POST question: On 23 December 2010 09:43, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:30:25 -0500 Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: [...] :This goes to why, in many cases, XM Post is not safe, [...] Are you implying that one should open an APAR against XM POST as an integrity exposure? It's hard to see how a service that is offered only to authorized programs could constitute a violation of the MVS system integrity statement. Tony H. I think the point was that the service has no provision for checking that its use is not going to raise a system integrity exposure. As explained in the checking before issuance procedure, it can mess up the wrong Address Space (or the contents of the correct address space which no longer correspond to the intended location of the ECB). This means that the XM Post caller needs to do their own integrity check as opposed to having the XM Post call doing it and returning a It Failed Return Code. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Thank you as always. I was simply exploring again the different ways of running authorized code from a Rexx assembler function (or a tso command called by it). I wanted only to keep my list updated. You stated very clearly when we had this discussion 2 or 3 years ago NOT to play with the JSCBAUTH. As you said before, it is a recipe for disaster. I wouldn't do it, but I was just curious about some of the reasons. Just out of curiousity. Why use a SVC? Back during this discussion it was stated as one way of having a Rexx assembler function do some authorized stuff. Someone said that an SVC or PC routine was one way. And for sure IKJEFTSR is one good way to go. Lindy From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott [rsc...@rocketsoftware.com] Sent: 22 December 2010 17:33 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function Lindy Why use an SVC? What is wrong with IKJEFTSR? If you *must* use a SVC to perform some sort of discrete auth-function for an unauth caller, then it would be responsible to provide some sort of SAF check to ensure the caller is allowed. I am assuming here that your SVC is returning to the caller in exactly the same state as when called - do NOT attempt to flip JSCBAUTH or any other auth-boost using an SVC regardless of SAF check being present or not. Personally, I cannot imagine a good case for writing a new SVC these days. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: 22 December 2010 12:48 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function If I use an SVC, is this true? If the SVC does something or returns some information that needs to be protected, then I need to use RACF to decide who can call it or who cannot? And everyone said not to use a magic SVC, and I get that. But if that SVC is also protected by RACF, is it at all a viable solution? Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. This is non-standard. If it is to be implemented even on a development system then added security needs to be built in to make sure it isn't misused. Do NOT go there. It will bite you in the a** - maybe not today - but someday. Your real options depend on whether you have a server address space or not : (a) You have a server address space Use PC-ss to execute auth function or to request server collect data on your behalf. (b) You do not have a server address space Use IKJEFTSR (daylight) Use SVC Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 rsc...@rs.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: 15 April 2008 17:19 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function For completeness, since I started this whole, ah, thing, I'm curious what they are. Here are the techniques I've learned so far, including the one that violates system integrity: __ The standard acceptable method is to call TSO/E Service Facility, IKJEFTSR and pass it the name of an authorized module. __ Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. This is non-standard. If it is to be implemented even on a development system then added security needs to be built in to make sure it isn't misused. __ Simply put all the authorized stuff into an SVC or PC routine. That's all I've collected so far. Are there more ways? Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Wayne Driscoll Sent: 15. huhtikuuta 2008 17:49 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function Just to expand on Walt's statement There are only a handful of ways of getting a program to start running authorized, even if the module comes from an APF-authorized library append that don't violate system integrity. Sure, there are numerous ways to make this work, but most of them have the side-effect that they leave the system in a compromised state. In a small development system this loss of integrity may be acceptable, but for production, or even larger development or test systems, this would not be. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Actually I was talking about both the magic svc and a normal SVC that may do authorized code. I don't want to do anything. I was simply recalling the different ways (some BAD) to run authorized stuff. It started by a discussion on the Rexx list, someone (for whatever reason) wanted to update the CVTUSER. Me, I'm just curious, and want to learn things. Lindy From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman [rfocht...@ync.net] Sent: 22 December 2010 23:19 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function --snip- If I use an SVC, is this true? If the SVC does something or returns some information that needs to be protected, then I need to use RACF to decide who can call it or who cannot? And everyone said not to use a magic SVC, and I get that. But if that SVC is also protected by RACF, is it at all a viable solution? ---unsnip Any so-called Magic SVC is going to be hard to protect via RACF; the necessary code, blocks, etc. might get rather cumbersome. Using established APF mechanisms might be sufficient. But if you use the established mechanisms, you can bypass any magic SVC stuff right from the get-go. And since you and the rest of the Systems staff SHOULD be controlling ALL non-System APF code, you should be able to exercise complete control. If you are returning information that needs to be protected from other users, keeping it in your own address space should provide pretty good security. How many comman applications use cross-memory services, and how many application programmers even understand what cross-memory services can or cannot do? It might be helpful if you could detail exactly what you wish to accomplish. ?? Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
yes, i have a list and DO NOT is on it. :-) You guys have made that perfectly clear. In my mind a magic SVC or any flipping of that bit is lazy programming. In my mind I cannot think of any use for such a thing. I apologize. I read your last sentence many times, and it is a complex one. Could you explain a bit more? I'm just asking to learn. If I give an example, maybe you can tell me if I am off base. In my mind I was thinking that an SVC may do something authorize, maybe a RACF check. But it would be called only by an unauthorized assembler program. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Relson [rel...@us.ibm.com] Sent: 23 December 2010 16:00 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. DO NOT DO THIS. In the general case there is no way to do this without introducing system integrity problems. And also do not use an SVC to return control to an unauthorized caller in an authorized state. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
I hate to think of it, but someday you guys will be busy enjoying your retirements, and little boys like me will need to grow up. :-) Most happy of holidays to my IBM-MAIN friends. Hyvää joulua ja onnellista uutta vuotta Lindy From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net] Sent: 22 December 2010 15:51 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function An SVC that checks SAF and performs a narrowly delimited function if authorized is fine. An SVC that turns on JSCBAUTH is an invitation to disaster. There is a mechanism for switching an address space between authorized and unauthorized use, but the people with enough experience to use it safely already know about it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
That's debatable. I've heard it was probably in Sept. Bottom line: we don't know when it was, nor does it matter; Jesus is still the reason for the season. (Co-opting a pagan holiday, though likely, is no longer relevant.) Mark Hammond -Original Message- From: Gerhard Postpischil [mailto:gerh...@valley.net] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Paging Jay Maynard On 12/23/2010 1:42 PM, Eric Bielefeld wrote: To all: Have a wonderful and Merry Christmas, and remember the reason for the season! I suspect Jesus gets lost in the shuffle and hubub of Christmas way too often. I appreciate, and would like to reciprocate, the sentiment, but Jesus was born in Spring, and we're celebrating now only because church elders co-opted a pagan celebration of the solstice. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Why on earth would one write an SVC to put an address into authorized state when the SVC can do authorized stuff already. I know that it isn't right. Everyone says very clearly NOT to do it. Besides the obvious, as Peter has pointed out, it is just something that you don't do, it is simply violating the rules of the system. I get that. Maybe that is simply enough reason. Racf or not. And, in my opinion (as a complete novice), a sandbox is no excuse. There was a Rexx assembler function that wrote SMF records. And it used the magic SVC. I quite easily converted it to use BPXSMF, and with all the proper RACF authorization. I didn't have to make _that_ many changes. My question was that if you have an SVC that does stuff, can it use RACF to check if a user has permissions? Based on your kind replies to my query, the answer is yes. One of these days I'll write my first PC routine. And you guys will very kindly help me. :-) (I hope) //*Lindy From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net] Sent: 22 December 2010 15:51 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function An SVC that checks SAF and performs a narrowly delimited function if authorized is fine. An SVC that turns on JSCBAUTH is an invitation to disaster. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: X-memory POST question
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.comwrote: At 12:31 -0500 on 12/23/2010, Tony Harminc wrote about Re: X-memory POST question: On 23 December 2010 09:43, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:30:25 -0500 Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: [...] :This goes to why, in many cases, XM Post is not safe, [...] Are you implying that one should open an APAR against XM POST as an integrity exposure? It's hard to see how a service that is offered only to authorized programs could constitute a violation of the MVS system integrity statement. Tony H. I think the point was that the service has no provision for checking that its use is not going to raise a system integrity exposure. As explained in the checking before issuance procedure, it can mess up the wrong Address Space (or the contents of the correct address space which no longer correspond to the intended location of the ECB). This means that the XM Post caller needs to do their own integrity check as opposed to having the XM Post call doing it and returning a It Failed Return Code. There are several fundamental problems with POST and cross-memory POST just amplifies those. Even for OS/360, an interface consisting of a single word of storage with no eye catcher and no management protocol whatsoever was probably a bit too minimal. Unfortunately WAIT/POST not only survived, but became central to the programming model and operation of the entire system, so any new and improved alternative such as PAUSE/RELEASE (which is very good btw) stands almost no chance of being widely adopted. The biggest flaw is that there is literally no way for the system to know whether the thing you're pointing at is actually an ECB. If you're running in the right key (or worse, in key zero) and the address is valid, the system will blow a nice 4-byte hole at that location, no questions asked. Even when the location actually WAS an ECB at some time, it may not be any more and an asynchronous unit of work that knew about it at some point when it was an ECB may eventually get around to posting it. If you're lucky that will fail, but most of the time it works perfectly and silently corrupts who knows what. Fortunately the cross-memory version is only available to privileged callers so the risk is somewhat reduced. However, if you're doing something brand new, I would very strongly suggest you consider using PAUSE/RELEASE and not bother with WAIT/POST at all - except in the cases where some existing service requires it of course. -- This email might be from the artist formerly known as CC (or not) You be the judge. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
My question was that if you have an SVC that does stuff, can it use RACF to check if a user has permissions? Based on your kind replies to my query, the answer is yes. Yes, it isn't just for dataset security. You can ask security questions about any logical resource, even ones you make up yourself. RACF and ACF2 and TopSecret are all called via the same macro (RACROUTE) and they all allow you to ask varieties of essentially the same question: Can user X, do action Y, to resource Z?. So as long as you can correctly formulate the question you want answered in your SVC or PC routine, it doesn't matter which underlying security manager is present. The answer that comes back is one of yes, no, or maybe. How you interpret the answer is up to you. And yes, if you're doing anything non-trivial, using the security manager is a very good idea. As a sidebar comment, if you're tossing up between a PC and an SVC, you're better off with a PC. Either way you have a non-trivial amount of work to get it set up and manage it. You will have lots of questions... -- This email might be from the artist formerly known as CC (or not) You be the judge. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
Can we please drop religious discussions. There are other religions that also have winter holidays which occur on a coincidental basis with Christmas. So there are many reasons for the Season. On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Mark Hammond markhamm...@ateras.comwrote: That's debatable. I've heard it was probably in Sept. Bottom line: we don't know when it was, nor does it matter; Jesus is still the reason for the season. (Co-opting a pagan holiday, though likely, is no longer relevant.) Mark Hammond -Original Message- From: Gerhard Postpischil [mailto:gerh...@valley.net] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Paging Jay Maynard On 12/23/2010 1:42 PM, Eric Bielefeld wrote: To all: Have a wonderful and Merry Christmas, and remember the reason for the season! I suspect Jesus gets lost in the shuffle and hubub of Christmas way too often. I appreciate, and would like to reciprocate, the sentiment, but Jesus was born in Spring, and we're celebrating now only because church elders co-opted a pagan celebration of the solstice. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
I think they had scheduled the census for taxation for Passover, when most of the Jewish people would have gathered in their hometown anyway. Easter is now celebrated on same day as Passover. On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Mark Hammond markhamm...@ateras.com wrote: That's debatable. I've heard it was probably in Sept. Bottom line: we don't know when it was, nor does it matter; Jesus is still the reason for the season. (Co-opting a pagan holiday, though likely, is no longer relevant.) Mark Hammond -Original Message- From: Gerhard Postpischil [mailto:gerh...@valley.net] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Paging Jay Maynard On 12/23/2010 1:42 PM, Eric Bielefeld wrote: To all: Have a wonderful and Merry Christmas, and remember the reason for the season! I suspect Jesus gets lost in the shuffle and hubub of Christmas way too often. I appreciate, and would like to reciprocate, the sentiment, but Jesus was born in Spring, and we're celebrating now only because church elders co-opted a pagan celebration of the solstice. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
I'll just point out that Type 1 and Type 6 SVC's cannot themselves issue SVC calls (i.e. call RACF). Doesn't matter if your SVC just lives in LPA. Merry Solstice, Ant. Thompson Northern Territory Government, Australia -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Craddock Sent: Friday, 24 December 2010 7:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function My question was that if you have an SVC that does stuff, can it use RACF to check if a user has permissions? Based on your kind replies to my query, the answer is yes. Yes, it isn't just for dataset security. You can ask security questions about any logical resource, even ones you make up yourself. RACF and ACF2 and TopSecret are all called via the same macro (RACROUTE) and they all allow you to ask varieties of essentially the same question: Can user X, do action Y, to resource Z?. So as long as you can correctly formulate the question you want answered in your SVC or PC routine, it doesn't matter which underlying security manager is present. The answer that comes back is one of yes, no, or maybe. How you interpret the answer is up to you. And yes, if you're doing anything non-trivial, using the security manager is a very good idea. As a sidebar comment, if you're tossing up between a PC and an SVC, you're better off with a PC. Either way you have a non-trivial amount of work to get it set up and manage it. You will have lots of questions... -- This email might be from the artist formerly known as CC (or not) You be the judge. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 07:50:12 +0930 Anthony Thompson anthony.thomp...@nt.gov.au wrote: :I'll just point out that Type 1 and Type 6 SVC's cannot themselves issue SVC calls (i.e. call RACF). Doesn't matter if your SVC just lives in LPA. They can't do FASTAUTH? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
Type 1/6 can't XCTL either, so I suspect not, let alone the associated fastauth exit. You're welcome to try tho. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, 24 December 2010 8:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 07:50:12 +0930 Anthony Thompson anthony.thomp...@nt.gov.au wrote: :I'll just point out that Type 1 and Type 6 SVC's cannot themselves issue SVC calls (i.e. call RACF). Doesn't matter if your SVC just lives in LPA. They can't do FASTAUTH? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
I am so so lucky to have a copy of Cannetello's book. It is dog eared and worn. But it is mine. I so wish he would update it. It is a classic. But as for SVC routines, he explains them quite well. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Thompson Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 12:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function Type 1/6 can't XCTL either, so I suspect not, let alone the associated fastauth exit. You're welcome to try tho. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, 24 December 2010 8:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 07:50:12 +0930 Anthony Thompson anthony.thomp...@nt.gov.au wrote: :I'll just point out that Type 1 and Type 6 SVC's cannot themselves issue SVC calls (i.e. call RACF). Doesn't matter if your SVC just lives in LPA. They can't do FASTAUTH? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
I've never previously heard of Cannetello. Appalled by my own ignorance, I promptly Google'd the name and discovered the following on Amazon.com. Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces: For IBM Systems and Application Programmers [Paperback] Carmine A. Cannatello (Author). Four used copies available, priced from $180-ish. Written back in mid-1999 so somewhat dated, but still looks like a very useful reference. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Friday, 24 December 2010 10:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function I am so so lucky to have a copy of Cannetello's book. It is dog eared and worn. But it is mine. I so wish he would update it. It is a classic. But as for SVC routines, he explains them quite well. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Thompson Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 12:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function Type 1/6 can't XCTL either, so I suspect not, let alone the associated fastauth exit. You're welcome to try tho. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, 24 December 2010 8:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 07:50:12 +0930 Anthony Thompson anthony.thomp...@nt.gov.au wrote: :I'll just point out that Type 1 and Type 6 SVC's cannot themselves issue SVC calls (i.e. call RACF). Doesn't matter if your SVC just lives in LPA. They can't do FASTAUTH? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Cannatello .... yet again
I brought a copy into the country (from Amazon) when version 2 was released. Probably only been opened a couple of times. In pristine condition (in clear adhesive cover wrap) in a drawer since purchase. These days my Linux kernel reference books get more perusal. Shane ... On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:24:53 +0930 Anthony Thompson wrote: I've never previously heard of Cannetello. Appalled by my own ignorance, I promptly Google'd the name and discovered the following on Amazon.com. Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces: For IBM Systems and Application Programmers [Paperback] Carmine A. Cannatello (Author). Four used copies available, priced from $180-ish. Written back in mid-1999 so somewhat dated, but still looks like a very useful reference. Ant. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cannatello .... yet again
Sample source code from this and another excellent book is available with the author's permission. Many other examples too in other contributions. http://www.cbttape.org File # 554 MVS Power Programming ESA Coding Examples http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT554.zip File # 069 Coding Examples from Carmine Cannatello's ASM book http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT069.zip Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Team Leader mailto:sknut...@geico.com (office) 301.986.3574 (cell) 301.996.1318 I will honor Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year. ~Charles Dickens -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Cannatello yet again I brought a copy into the country (from Amazon) when version 2 was released. Probably only been opened a couple of times. In pristine condition (in clear adhesive cover wrap) in a drawer since purchase. These days my Linux kernel reference books get more perusal. Shane ... On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:24:53 +0930 Anthony Thompson wrote: I've never previously heard of Cannetello. Appalled by my own ignorance, I promptly Google'd the name and discovered the following on Amazon.com. Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces: For IBM Systems and Application Programmers [Paperback] Carmine A. Cannatello (Author). Four used copies available, priced from $180-ish. Written back in mid-1999 so somewhat dated, but still looks like a very useful reference. Ant. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
Easter is now celebrated on same day as Passover. Actually, no. Easter is a Sunday. Passover is a Thursday or Friday. Jesus was arrested on Passover during the Seder. Executed later. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
I've got over 15 years left until retirement, so I ain't goin' anywhere anytime soon ;-( Merry Whozawhatz and a Happy Whatchmacallit! On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@ssf.sas.comwrote: I hate to think of it, but someday you guys will be busy enjoying your retirements, and little boys like me will need to grow up. :-) Most happy of holidays to my IBM-MAIN friends. Hyvää joulua ja onnellista uutta vuotta Lindy CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
Ted MacNeil wrote: Actually, no. Easter is a Sunday. Passover is a Thursday or Friday. and he is very nearly right this time. The modern rules for determining the date of Easter were promulgated as a part of the Gregorian calendar. These rules are the work of Christoph Clavius, who o ensured, definitionally, that Easter would always fall on a Sunday, and o attempted to ensure that East and Pesach/Passover would very seldom fall on the same date. In fact, Easter and Pesach fall on the same date three times during the next 11,000 years; and Pesach does not always fall on a Thursday or Friday. A full discussion of these issues will be found on pp. 50-53 of Dershowitz, Nachum, and Edward J. Reingold, Calendrical calculations, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1997, which is the canonical reference for its subject. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
And topic drift claims yet another mildly interesting thread. Y'all need some Adderall. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging Jay Maynard
is very nearly right this time. Thank you for your damning with faint praise. Do you have to point out every mistake, or difference of opinion? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
At 11:00 -0500 on 12/23/2010, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function: Just once I would like to encounter an auditor experienced enough to find real problems before they can bite me, instead of reading a worthless cookbook. Most of them that I have run into are of that incompetent type. They fail to have what I feel to be the primary qualification to be an auditor - The ability to do (or better the experience of having done) the job that they are supposed to audit. Anyone who just works off a check list of things to look for or gripe about should be terminated (possibly with Extreme Prejudice g) from their assignment as soon as they show their inability to perform their job (IOW: You tell the Auditing Firm/Department that you want someone who is qualified to conduct the audit that you are paying for). A Financial Auditor is supposed to be a CPA, so why are Computer Auditors not required to be qualified System Programmers? This is, of course, if your goal for the audit is to actually get a valid critique of your procedures not just a meaningless report that you can wave around to say We Were Audited and Passed to meet some certification requirement. Too often the Audit is for that later purpose so the less competent the Auditor the better (so long as you can prove that you met the cookbook designated criteria). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
At 22:15 +0100 on 12/23/2010, Lindy Mayfield wrote about Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function: Why on earth would one write an SVC to put an address into authorized state when the SVC can do authorized stuff already. Because it is simpler to have a single function SVC to authorize the caller so that the caller can do what it needs to be authorized to do then to do all the different things that the caller needs to do in the SVC. This is why you write different programs than have a single one size fits all program that does everything. Note: I am not agreeing with the need for the Magic SVC but only answering your query about what use it can serve. It bypasses the need to go through the hassle and paper work to get the processing program APF-Authorized and placed into an APF authorized library (all the Magic SVC does is place the program in the same site as it would be if linked and loaded as APF Authorized [ignoring any SubPool or Key differences). As to the need for a Magic SVC, I may be wrong but I have a vague memory of an IBM supplied program (possibly in the MVS days) that had (or needed) a Magic SVC to do one of its functions. I am flashing on it being ISPF and the need to call IEBCOPY to compress/copy PDSs although this impression of who it was may be wrong. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function
On 12/23/2010 9:19 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: Anyone who just works off a check list of things to look for or gripe about should be terminated (possibly with Extreme Prejudice g) from their assignment as soon as they show their inability to perform their job (IOW: You tell the Auditing Firm/Department that you want someone who is qualified to conduct the audit that you are paying for). A Financial Auditor is supposed to be a CPA, so why are Computer Auditors not required to be qualified System Programmers? Be careful what you wish for - your next auditor may have taken all the Microsoft courses and know everything about computer systems, and nag you to do things the MS way G Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Keith is out of the office.
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Displaying a ISPF panel from RUNCPOOL IPCS Subcommand
Hi, IS there any way to display a ISPF panel when running RUNCPOOL X'12345678' AVAILABLE VERIFY DISPLAY EXEC((REXX)) From Within the Rexx exec REXX I Tried ADDRESS ISPEXEC display panel(mypanel) But it just displays the regular IPCS output Thankx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
George McLaren is out of the office
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