Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-19 Thread james smith
1995 cards were still being used on a UNIvac system in the Middle
East.

Like others I loved using them for making notes as they were a perfect fit
for my shirt pocket.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
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> In <7568069456759148.wa.steve.doverccbcc@bama.ua.edu>, on
> 08/17/2011
>at 08:16 AM, Steve Dover  said:
>
> >Phil, we had one at Allstate Insurance until 1990.  2540
> >reader/punch.  I sure miss the chads, they were great fun in desks
> >and cars.
>
> I used to think so, until I learned that they could cause eye
> injuries.
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Re: Keeping HSA, IODF, and IOCDS Hardware Tokens in SYNC

2011-08-19 Thread Bonaduce, Frank
Chip -

Is this out-of-sync condition a pervasive problem for you ? By design, the 
hardware tokens are always in sync whether the configuration is loaded via CPC 
ACTIVATE (POR) or Dynamic Activation. The only 'out-of-sync' condition you may 
experience is the hardware (CSS) token and the software (OS) which isn't really 
a token. These should both always be in sync following a POR for every LPAR on 
the CPC. Following a Dynamic Activation on any given LPAR, simply perform a 
corresponding 'software-only' dynamic activation of the same IODF on all other 
LPARs on that CPC. This will put the hardware and software configurations 'back 
in sync'.

As an aside, if you make hardware-only changes and perform a dynamic 
activation, all the LPARs on the CPC function under that change without a 
corresponding 'software activation' being performed since it effects the 
hardware (CSS) which is global to the CPC. If you haven't made a change to the 
software (OS), the software-only activation is functionally unnecessary. In any 
event, be certain that all LPARs on the CPC have access to the dynamically 
activated IODF. 

Frank.

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I seem to always run the risk of getting the hardware tokens out of sync. 
Can someone point me to some good reading on keeping them in sync? 

Thanks,

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George McLaren is out of the office

2011-08-19 Thread George McLaren
I will be out of the office starting  19/08/2011 and will not return until
22/08/2011.

I will respond to your mail, if required ,on my return.
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Re: iasxwr00

2011-08-19 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 8/19/2011 5:43 PM, Ed Gould wrote:

As far as I know the program (even if run) would not produce
any output no Input. There is a block letter subroutine that
is probably useful (Can't remember the name for the life
of me) that I used eons ago for a calendar) it was easy to
use but how often do you need to create block letters?


I suspect you're thinking of IEFSD095, which in its original 
form lacked national characters, and so was useless for printing 
job separators. IIRC, there is an improved version on the cbt 
(by either Bill Godfrey or Jim Marshall?). I did my own version 
with all PN train characters, an 8*8 matrix, italics, and a few 
other enhancements in the seventies. On top of that it appeared 
to have been written by a 7094 programmer, using full-word 
instructions for character manipulation; definitely not one of 
IBM's finer efforts.


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread Shane
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:13:33 +0800
David Crayford  wrote:

> Sent from my iPhone

Maybe dodgy phones are susceptible too Dave ?    ;-)

Shane ...

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Re: iasxwr00

2011-08-19 Thread techie well wisher
I use iefsd094, but this extracts only certain info. I would like to extract
other attributes, such as jb start time, maxcc, etc
On Aug 19, 2011 5:44 PM, "Ed Gould"  wrote:
> As far as I know the program (even if run) would not produce any output no
Input. There is a block letter subroutine that is probably useful (Can't
remember the name for the life of me) that I used eons ago for a calendar)
it was easy to use but how often do you need to create block letters?
>
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Re: iasxwr00

2011-08-19 Thread techie well wisher
Yes. It is external writer. Why does IBM say it is deprecated. perhaps that
was an incorrect statement?
I need to write outputs from a certain class, same as what that ias program
does?
On Aug 19, 2011 5:36 PM, "Jim Thomas"  wrote:
> IIRC, IASXWR00 is (IMHO) an external writer ... do you really need
> a replacement ??.
>
> Do you 'only' want to be able to select specific spool datasets and
> have them copied to an individual dataset ??.
>
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> Kind Regards
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> All,
> Is there a replacement program for iasxwr00 ?
> I know this is an old program, heard it is also deprecated. Any new prog
> that does the same function (moving selective spool output files to a
> datasets preferably with single line separator )
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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir,

How secure ?? .. web servers on the z/OS or z/Linux ??. 

For the moment .. I'd say %100. That said and as I've said
before, I'm waiting for some 'smart' person to port the blue
screen of death. 

Won't be too secure then but the 'smart' people insist on 
heading in that direction. 

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On 19 Aug 2011 08:53:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

> Chuck,
>
>That may well be the case, but, a lot (all?) of fixes put out by MS does
not inform anyone (like IBM fixes do) what the fixes are for (like integrity
issues) so you have no idea if you can apply just one for the issue. MS
expects you to put on a fix pack (equilivince of the old put tape?) on with
no f..ing idea what it addresses.
>
>I do not recall of ever hearing about MS putting out a single fix for an
integrity issue have you?

Since I don't apply fixes automatically to my Windows 7 system nor did
I to my XP system, most of the fixes that go on are single fixes which
do give an idea of the exposure when they are security fixes (allow a
remote attacker to do x, etc.).  The KB numbers are given for all of
the fixes and you can go the Microsoft data base for more information
(and which has always been available when I have been curious enough
to pursue the issue).  When a fix pack comes out I suspect that most
of fixes are already applied on my system and if I were energetic I am
fairly certain I could research the fixes included in the fix pack on
the Microsoft site.

In response to another thread, at SCIDS I was in conversation with
someone who claimed he locked up or otherwise sabotaged a system at
one place before he left.  This was 9 -14 years ago and among other
things he claimed many of the people at that installation were on
cocaine.

Also how secure are the various web servers on z/OS and z/Linux
(Eclipse, Websphere, etc.)?  Since Internet Explorer and Firefox have
reported exposures on the client side, I would assume that the various
web servers can have holes.

Clark Morris
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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
/snip
> MVS (or OS/390 or z/OS or whatever you want to call it) has
> NEVER been hacked or destroyed by an ex employee !!.

How do you know?
Do you expect any financial company to make an advertisement "Hello! 
We're open for hackers!". I suspect that no company want do disclose it.

/endsnip 

Please tell me of 'one' financial company that has been hacked ... but 
remember now .. get rid of the 'non mainframe' environments first !!. 
Better yet ... please tell me that you KNOW for a fact that if a financial
company was hacked ... 'nobody' would know ?? .. Do you really believe
that ??. Further, going by your own approach, why then have 'financial' and 
other institutions admitted that their wonderful non-mainframe environment 
has been 'attacked' or gotten a 'virus' or whatever ??. 

/snip
> In fact, let me re-state that .. the mainframes HAVE NEVER
> been hacked or destroyed by an ex employee !!.

Well, I know such evidence (maybe it was misuse - it's a matter of 
definition of "been hacked"), cannot provide details.
Another, publicly known example: Kevin Mitnick. Obviously he wasn't 
ex-employee (is it better?), and he hacked people, not systems. So?
/endsnip

I admit that I have not the foggiest who Kevin Mitnick is ... but bear
with me and I'll find out ... and I'll also find out the circumstances.
That said ... yes, I have had exposure to misuse and in fact, have known
of circumstances where 'A Current' employee has ... umm shall I say .. 
embezzled ... forgive me but .. in this context ... we're speaking of 
apples and oranges. 

I will further admit that I have know of people that use to 'purposefully'
code for abends but then too, that was only because they could be called
on the weekends and hence, justify time that they would ask remuneration 
for. 

/snip 
Some remarks:
1. "Mainframe system" could mean z/OS or poorly configured Linux. Is the 
Linux on mainframe any more secure than Linux on PC? IMHO the difference 
is none or very small.
/endsnip

Sorry ... Linux did not enter the picture till recently but FWIW, Linux is 
still a hell of a lot better than WinBlows. 


/snip
2. Usually "mainframe systems" are big, very big or huge installations 
when compared to PC installations. There is no reason to compare small 
PC server in small company to huge financial system.
/endsnip

My apologies ... I was not comparing but you are very correct ... there
is no comparison. As I've said before  I like PC's for what they 
were engineered for .. to be a 'personal computer' ... they were 'never'
designed, architected or built to be a 'business' computer. Hang on .. 
what's this discussion about ?? .. I agree that 'mainframe systems' are
meant for big, very big or huge installations ... e.g. ... any business !!.

Please tell me again, why we are talking about 'small PCs' for a 'business'
purpose ... unless of course, it's a small mom and pop shop !!.

/snip
3. Ex-employees hacking, social hacking - that could affect any 
platform, the platform resilience play minor role here. Again, usually 
the bigger comany the better rules apply.
/endsnip 

Really ... must be why most all if not all Winblows environments are 
hacked or virused or whatever the devil you want to call it .. on a daily
basis ... For starters, 'social anything' is NOT traditionally part of 
MVS ... perhaps that's why PC's were invented. 

My apologies again .. but I beg to differ .. despite all the 'rules', how
many times, pray tell, have you heard of non-winblows environments being
'attacked by a virus' or 'by a hacker' or . or . or ... in fact, please 
tell me (or remind me) if you've ever heard of the terms 'virus' and 
such prior to the asinine and moronic acceptance of WinBlows into the 
business world and yes ... they were really 'smart' management material ...


/snip
4. Obviously (for us, mainframers) it's much easier to set up secure 
mainframe shop, that to set up secure PC installation. More, PC 
installation cannot achieve the level of security which is available for 
mianframe (with z/OS). It's like bank safe and tent: you can leave both 
open - and security is comparable (and poor). You can also try to secure 
both - then you have good effects with safe, but still poor effects with 
a tent.

/endsnip

Easier for us mainframers ?? ... now why is that ??. A PC installation 
cannot be 'easily' secured ?? .. again .. why is that ?? and then, why the
devil are PC's being used in a business environment ??. Because a 'smart'
CxO thinks so ??  Where are the board of investors ?? .. I'd hope they'd

have a shred of intelligence given that they're investing money into the 
damned company.

I don't give a toss if it's a bank safe or a tent .. the fact of the matter
is and in fact .. if you read thru the goat's .. (Billy the MicroDaft goat)
responses ... it's easy for anybody to see that they are (and why they are) 
desperately trying to reinvent the wheel... From a recent post .. they won't
make the same mistake as us ??. 

Let's s

Re: LPAR with Dedicated CPs - LP Dispatch Time does not equal LP Online Time

2011-08-19 Thread Walter Medenbach
Interesting observation.

The doc for type 70 subtype 1 smf record describes the SMF70INB (PR/SM
indicator bits) value 3 as "An additional partition, that is not included in
the count of configured partitions, is presented with a name of “PHYSICAL”.
This partition includes all of the uncaptured time that was used by the LPAR
management time support feature but could not be attributed to a specific
logical partition."

The difference between CPU_DISPATCH_SEC and CPU_EFF_DISP_SEC is the PR/SM
overhead directly attributed to that LPAR,  I suspect that the difference
between LP_ONLINE_SEC and CPU_DISPATCH_SEC is part of the uncaptured time
seen in the PHYSICAL partition. I recommend displaying the values for the
PHYSICAL LPAR to confirm.

For those unfamiliar with TDS. The manual has the following descriptions

LP_ONLINE_SEC  Total logical processor online seconds for this LPAR.
Calculated as the sum of SMF70ONT/100.

CPU_DISPATCH_SEC Logical processor dispatch time, in seconds. Calculated
as the sum of SMF70PDT/1 000 000

CPU_EFF_DISP_SEC Logical processor effective dispatch time (excluding LPAR
management time), in seconds. Calculated as the sum of
SMF70EDT/1 000 000.

Walter Medenbach


On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Rick Mansfeldt wrote:

> I'm looking at Tivoli Decision Support data for an LPAR defined with 8
> dedicated CPs.  Specifically, I'm using data from the MVSPM_LPAR_H table and
> comparing columns:
>
> LP_ONLINE_SEC (Total logical processor online seconds for this LPAR)
>  and
>
> CPU_DISPATCH_SEC (Logical processor dispatch time, in seconds)
>
> I would expect the values to be equal for an LPAR with dedicated engines
> however I'm seeing a small delta between the two values.
>
> Example:
>
> LP_ONLINE_SEC = 14399.994 secs andCPU_DISPATCH_SEC =  14399.695
> secs  (delta = 0.299 secs)
>
> Any idea what the 0.299 secs represents?
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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread Clark Morris
On 19 Aug 2011 08:53:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

> Chuck,
>
>That may well be the case, but, a lot (all?) of fixes put out by MS does not 
>inform anyone (like IBM fixes do) what the fixes are for (like integrity 
>issues) so you have no idea if you can apply just one for the issue. MS 
>expects you to put on a fix pack (equilivince of the old put tape?) on with no 
>f..ing idea what it addresses.
>
>I do not recall of ever hearing about MS putting out a single fix for an 
>integrity issue have you?

Since I don't apply fixes automatically to my Windows 7 system nor did
I to my XP system, most of the fixes that go on are single fixes which
do give an idea of the exposure when they are security fixes (allow a
remote attacker to do x, etc.).  The KB numbers are given for all of
the fixes and you can go the Microsoft data base for more information
(and which has always been available when I have been curious enough
to pursue the issue).  When a fix pack comes out I suspect that most
of fixes are already applied on my system and if I were energetic I am
fairly certain I could research the fixes included in the fix pack on
the Microsoft site.

In response to another thread, at SCIDS I was in conversation with
someone who claimed he locked up or otherwise sabotaged a system at
one place before he left.  This was 9 -14 years ago and among other
things he claimed many of the people at that installation were on
cocaine.

Also how secure are the various web servers on z/OS and z/Linux
(Eclipse, Websphere, etc.)?  Since Internet Explorer and Firefox have
reported exposures on the client side, I would assume that the various
web servers can have holes.

Clark Morris
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Re: TS1120 Drives: will they support 10/20 GB J tapes ?

2011-08-19 Thread Clark, Kevin
" Planned obsolescence!"   love itthanks everyone

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>3590 J tapes are physically different. As 3490 cartridges can´t be used in 
>3590, same for 3590 cartridges can´t be loaded in ts1120 drives...

Planned obsolescence!
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Re: Keeping HSA, IODF, and IOCDS Hardware Tokens in SYNC

2011-08-19 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Not necessarily how to keep things synchronized, but describes token updates 
well if that is not clear...  Take a look at Chapter 11 (Build and Activate the 
Production IODF) I/O Configuration Using z/OS HCD and HCM (SG24-7804).

Regards,

Kevin

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I seem to always run the risk of getting the hardware tokens out of sync. 
Can someone point me to some good reading on keeping them in sync? 

Thanks,

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Re: TS1120 Drives: will they support 10/20 GB J tapes ?

2011-08-19 Thread Jonathan Goossen
The controller isn't the issue. The physical tape attributes are. 3590 
uses a leader block and the TS1120 (3592) uses a leader pin.

Thank you and have a Terrific day!

Jonathan Goossen, ACG, CL
Tape Specialist
ACT Mainframe Storage Group
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04:10:59 PM:

> From: techie well wisher 
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Date: 08/19/2011 04:11 PM
> Subject: Re: TS1120 Drives: will they support 10/20 GB J tapes ?
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> You may need to get new controllers C06 or c07 for encryption
> On Aug 18, 2011 5:05 PM, "Clark, Kevin"  wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Let me answer the first WHY ? - we have over 1000+ 3590 J tape media 
and
> no time or money to migrate to high capacity tape media in 2011.
> >
> > So, I was hoping to get the FICON improvement + hardware encryption
> instantly.
> >
> > Anyone have actual experience with still reading and writing these 
older
> tapes on the TS1120 drives
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> > Kevin
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Re: Keeping HSA, IODF, and IOCDS Hardware Tokens in SYNC

2011-08-19 Thread Field, Alan C.
Chip, what does your enviroment look like? I don't know of any documents 
specifically describing how to. I have my own procedure that avoids the out of 
sync. I have 3 stand alone lpars and two 2 lpar parallel sysplexes on two cecs. 
I have one iocds. Its on a dasd device shared by all lpars. I make all changes 
on the sysprog lpar.  I then do a h/w and s/w activate. I do a h/w and s/w 
activate from an lpar on the other cec. I then do s/w activates on all 
remaining lpars. Since following this processs i haven't had a problem.




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I seem to always run the risk of getting the hardware tokens out of sync. 
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Mellon Mods for z/OS 1.9 thru 1.12 available

2011-08-19 Thread Sam Golob

Hi Folks,

Steve McColley, who has been supporting the Mellon Mods to JES2 up 
until now, has come up with updates to the Mellon Mods for z/OS 1.12, 
which also work on JES2 releases back until at least 1.10.  This version 
of the Mellon Mods can be found at www.cbttape.org on the Updates page, 
on File 856.  There is an SMP/E install, and a non-SMP/E install.


All the best of everything to all of you.

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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread David Crayford
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/08/2011, at 5:27 AM, "R.S."  wrote:

> W dniu 2011-08-19 10:07, Jim Thomas pisze:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Why does everybody insist on overlooking the obvious ??.
>> 
>> The hell with how quickly you apply fixes.
> Agreed.
> 
>> MVS (or OS/390 or z/OS or whatever you want to call it) has
>> NEVER been hacked or destroyed by an ex employee !!.
> 
> How do you know?
> Do you expect any financial company to make an advertisement "Hello! We're 
> open for hackers!". I suspect that no company want do disclose it.
> 
>> In fact, let me re-state that .. the mainframes HAVE NEVER
>> been hacked or destroyed by an ex employee !!.
> 
> Well, I know such evidence (maybe it was misuse - it's a matter of definition 
> of "been hacked"), cannot provide details.
> Another, publicly known example: Kevin Mitnick. Obviously he wasn't 
> ex-employee (is it better?), and he hacked people, not systems. So?
> 
> Some remarks:
> 1. "Mainframe system" could mean z/OS or poorly configured Linux. Is the 
> Linux on mainframe any more secure than Linux on PC? IMHO the difference is 
> none or very small.
> 2. Usually "mainframe systems" are big, very big or huge installations when 
> compared to PC installations. There is no reason to compare small PC server 
> in small company to huge financial system.
> 3. Ex-employees hacking, social hacking - that could affect any platform, the 
> platform resilience play minor role here. Again, usually the bigger comany 
> the better rules apply.
> 4. Obviously (for us, mainframers) it's much easier to set up secure 
> mainframe shop, that to set up secure PC installation. More, PC installation 
> cannot achieve the level of security which is available for mianframe (with 
> z/OS). It's like bank safe and tent: you can leave both open - and security 
> is comparable (and poor). You can also try to secure both - then you have 
> good effects with safe, but still poor effects with a tent.
> 
> Regards
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Re: iasxwr00

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Gould
 As far as I know the program (even if run) would not produce any output no 
Input. There is a block letter subroutine that is probably useful (Can't 
remember the name for the life of me) that I used eons ago for a calendar) it 
was easy to use but how often do you need to create block letters?

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Re: iasxwr00

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
IIRC, IASXWR00 is (IMHO) an external writer ... do you really need 
a replacement ??. 

Do you 'only' want to be able to select specific spool datasets and
have them copied to an individual dataset ??. 


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All,
Is there a replacement program for iasxwr00 ?
I know this is an old program, heard it is also deprecated. Any new prog
that does the same function (moving selective spool output files to a
datasets  preferably with single line separator )
Regards,
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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-08-19 10:07, Jim Thomas pisze:

Folks,

Why does everybody insist on overlooking the obvious ??.

The hell with how quickly you apply fixes.

Agreed.


MVS (or OS/390 or z/OS or whatever you want to call it) has
NEVER been hacked or destroyed by an ex employee !!.


How do you know?
Do you expect any financial company to make an advertisement "Hello! 
We're open for hackers!". I suspect that no company want do disclose it.



In fact, let me re-state that .. the mainframes HAVE NEVER
been hacked or destroyed by an ex employee !!.


Well, I know such evidence (maybe it was misuse - it's a matter of 
definition of "been hacked"), cannot provide details.
Another, publicly known example: Kevin Mitnick. Obviously he wasn't 
ex-employee (is it better?), and he hacked people, not systems. So?


Some remarks:
1. "Mainframe system" could mean z/OS or poorly configured Linux. Is the 
Linux on mainframe any more secure than Linux on PC? IMHO the difference 
is none or very small.
2. Usually "mainframe systems" are big, very big or huge installations 
when compared to PC installations. There is no reason to compare small 
PC server in small company to huge financial system.
3. Ex-employees hacking, social hacking - that could affect any 
platform, the platform resilience play minor role here. Again, usually 
the bigger comany the better rules apply.
4. Obviously (for us, mainframers) it's much easier to set up secure 
mainframe shop, that to set up secure PC installation. More, PC 
installation cannot achieve the level of security which is available for 
mianframe (with z/OS). It's like bank safe and tent: you can leave both 
open - and security is comparable (and poor). You can also try to secure 
both - then you have good effects with safe, but still poor effects with 
a tent.


Regards
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Lodz, Poland


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Re: TS1120 Drives: will they support 10/20 GB J tapes ?

2011-08-19 Thread techie well wisher
You may need to get new controllers C06 or c07 for encryption
On Aug 18, 2011 5:05 PM, "Clark, Kevin"  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Let me answer the first WHY ? - we have over 1000+ 3590 J tape media and
no time or money to migrate to high capacity tape media in 2011.
>
> So, I was hoping to get the FICON improvement + hardware encryption
instantly.
>
> Anyone have actual experience with still reading and writing these older
tapes on the TS1120 drives
>
> Kevin
>
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Re: iasxwr00

2011-08-19 Thread McKown, John
I am not aware of a freebie from IBM. I have a REXX program which uses the SDSF 
REXX interface to do this. It copies job output from the SPOOL to either a 
sequential dataset or into a UNIX file. It is 68 lines long and based on the 
example in the SDSF manual. This code leaves the job output on the SPOOL, but I 
could change it to delete the processed output if I wanted to. I don't want to.

Now, if you're really into UNIX, you can use Dovetailed Technologies "fromdsn" 
program to copy data from SPOOL to "stdout" and then pipe it to a UNIX file or 
z/OS legacy dataset. It also leaves the data on the SPOOL. This can be used in 
conjunction with their "lsjes" command which lists information about jobs.

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> Is there a replacement program for iasxwr00 ?
> I know this is an old program, heard it is also deprecated. 
> Any new prog
> that does the same function (moving selective spool output files to a
> datasets  preferably with single line separator )
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iasxwr00

2011-08-19 Thread techie well wisher
All,
Is there a replacement program for iasxwr00 ?
I know this is an old program, heard it is also deprecated. Any new prog
that does the same function (moving selective spool output files to a
datasets  preferably with single line separator )
Regards,
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Re: BDT and PDSEs

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Gould
John:

Thanks for the good information. I steered my client away from BDT when it was 
first announced as being to expensive and did not meet all our needs as not all 
the shops we talked to were IBM /or/ they were not likely to buy it as it was 
expensive to small shops. 

We ended up with the cheap FDP called BDT (now unavailable) which was cheap at 
80 (IIRC dollars) a month



From: John Eells 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 9:17:03 AM
Subject: Re: BDT and PDSEs

Fair points.

However, there are two things I want to mention:

First, let me note that BDT, in its new incarnation as z/OS elements, is 
still very much in service even though it has not not been under active 
development.  (The last update was in OS/390 R2.)  Only the former 
standalone product has been withdrawn from service.

Second, if I were a betting man, I'd bet that requirements against FTP 
would stand a better chance of success of being satisfied than 
requirements to reopen BDT.  Feel free, of course, to submit 
requirements against either, both or neither.

Art Gutowski wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:44:19 -0400, John Eells  wrote:
>
>> I'd suspect that most people use FTP these days for PDS and PDSE
>> transfers, both of which it supports (including load modules and program
>> objects, I'm told by the developers).  There are other ways to skin the
>> cat but (as someone who is NOT a non-networking expert!) this seems like
>> the most likely one to me for simple transfers.
>>
>> (Note: The BDT product, 5665-264, was withdrawn from service in 2008,
>> but it lives on as a set of priced optional features and a base element
>> of z/OS.)
>
> John,
>
> I responded to Cheryl offline, but your response prompts me to speak up
> publicly...
>
> While not 'most people', I know of at least one large shop that is still a 
> heavy
> BDT FTF and NJE user (JES3).  I'm sure usage of the former grew from the
> necessity of the latter.  Conversion of PDS' to PDSEs had been a repeated
> frustration over the years, and probably still bites them on the ankles (or
> slightly higher) periodically.
>
> FTP works for load modules, true, but (1) it doesn't handle certain load
> modules at all (AFAIAA), and (2) users have to be vigilant of the transfer
> parameters they use, and (3) it's a pain for big, multi-dataset transfers.  
> BDT
> was a no-brainer, and it is disappointing (frustrating) to me that IBM 
> withdrew
> this product from service and refused to write support for PDSE.  Although, I
> suspect it is as much DFSMS' fault for not providing the sort of transparency
> to the access method that would allow BDT to support PDSE without
> modification.  BDT handles PS-E datasets, so QSAM but not BPAM, eh?
> Unless, of course, BDT is doing something untoward with BPAM, which is not
> out of the question.
>
> Before anyone suggests XMIT/RECEIVE - one word:  unattended.  Make that
> three:  checkpoint and retry.  There are other products out there, I am sure,
> but for those JES3 shops that have not yet moved to TCP/IP NJE and have to
> run BDT NJE, why would you buy yet another transfer product?
>
> (1) While these types of load modules may not reside in PDSE, I gave up on
> using FTP across the board because it continually chewed up modules
> with "unusual" linkage attributes like page-aligned and scatter-load.  So now
> it's FTP for PDSE and BDT for PDS?  Argh.
>
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Re: TS1120 Drives: will they support 10/20 GB J tapes ?

2011-08-19 Thread Jonathan Goossen
TS1120 drives use 3592 tapes only (JA and JB). 3590 tapes only work in 
3590 drives. We have both in our shop. 3590 has a leader block. 3592 has a 
leader pin. They are not interchangeable.

Thank you and have a Terrific day!

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> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
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> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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> 
> Let me answer the first WHY  ? -  we have over 1000+ 3590 J  tape 
> media and no time  or money to migrate to high capacity tape media in 
2011.
> 
> So, I was hoping to get the FICON improvement + hardware encryption 
instantly.
> 
> Anyone have actual experience with still reading and writing these 
> older tapes  on the TS1120 drives
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
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Re : Winblows on z .... FYI

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Folks,

A few days ago, I'd responded to somebody about z running
winblows ... I could not remember the name of the company 
or what the product was called ... and, in my former post, 
did misstate the company's location. They are not in Austin,
or even Texas, they are in Alabama. 

I went digging thru my files and found it ... and for people
that already know this, forgive me and for the others, I hope 
that you find that it's enjoyable reading. 

Despite the extreme mainframe bigot that I am, I once 'almost'
had a chance to embark on a project that would have involved w/my 
working with these folks and this product. 

I am not ashamed to say that I slobbered and waited patiently but
it never worked out .. too many money hungry overtures in high 
ranking positions. 

Google Mantissa Corp., the product used to be 'z/VOS' but the
name has been changed to 'z86VM'. 

Apparently, I've missed out a lot in a couple of years ... okay 
.. got me reading spectacles ... and some pleasant reading / digging,
for my weekend :-) 



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Re: Rockets in Ashdod, very near to my home, yesterday and today.

2011-08-19 Thread shai hess
HI,

 After the explosion I hate what I feel, I feel angry for this nonsense
actions which is done only from hate emotion and without any strategy.

 I take the bible and I pray a little and quickly I feel that I am calm, no
more angry, I am just feel relax.

 Then I take my coffee, I go to my balcony, sit near my girlfriend, look at
the blue calm sea in front of my home, I look at the young boys and
girls who continue to surf near my home, in the sea, without any fear and
without paying attention to the explosion nor to the noisy and frighten
siren and I feel shame that I become upset, paying attention to this
nonsense and passed event.

 I feel that praying to God change my vision to the world.
 After the explosion I hate what I see, after the pray I love it. try it.

 Shai










On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:18 AM, shai hess  wrote:

>  Many Rockets fire from Gaza to Ashdod, near my home, yesterday and today.
>
> 30-45 seconds from the start of the siren to the explosion.
> If you outside with your car, continue to drive.
> You do not have enough time to look for a shelter. If you stop the car and
> run, your chances are the same as if you continue to drive.
> If you are in home, search for room with some protection or go to the
> stairs room.
> After the first explosion wait few seconds, maybe more than one rockets
> were fired.
> Today few people in Ashdod were injured from the rockets.
> Ashdod is beautiful city and never boring city...
>
> These rockets are fired without specific target.
> The target is the people, any people are good target for these people. Just
> pull the trigger and hide.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AYjcDI1gdA&feature=player_embedded
>
> Shai
>

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Re: Opening up Boulder Doc to user comments??? (was a new POP)

2011-08-19 Thread Mike Schwab
Like http://www.wikimf.com/ ?

Hercules is trying to put together a New Users Documentation Effort (NUDE)
http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/hercules/index.shtml
Due to family illness, this has not been updated since the Tur(n)key 3
was released, about 8 years.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:32 PM, David Cole  wrote:
> There is a germ of an interesting idea here...
>
> What about IBM changing the Boulder online doc
> (http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp)
> to permit moderated annotations/commentary arising from user experience???
>
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>
> At 8/19/2011 02:00 PM, Kirk Talman wrote:
>>
>> the root cause of most complaints about any form of documentation today is
>> that we have been spoiled by search engines and that we have a lot less
>> time to do what is right over what is expedient.  the method I have been
>> trying to sell on my job is use wikis as connective tissue to hold and
>> make effective the flesh and bones of other documentation formats.  the
>> response has been blank looks, sneers and ugly words.
>>
>> The community that consists of the members of this list could just build
>> the future by making a site which represents their cumulative knowledge.
>> It would require managed access to fend off trolls.
>>
>> Example:  IBM has a nice site for a glossary for terms.  But because it
>> represents knowledge gathered from across the enterprise, it appears to be
>> less than current and has omissions.
>>
>> If wikimedia software (or the equivalent) were made to have a separate
>> permission list for each namespace,, and if automatic disambiguation were
>> implemented, the contributions of disparate groups could seamlessly (or
>> almost so) be merged into one knowledgebase - completely w/o a donnybrook
>> over who is right about, oh, say, USS.
>>
>> pup
>>
>> Our greatest danger in life is in permitting the urgent things to crowd
>> out the important. - Charles E. Hummel
>> Efforts and courage are not enough without purpose and direction. - John
>> F. Kennedy
>>
>> IBM Mainframe Assembler List  wrote on
>> 08/19/2011 01:14:25 PM:
>>
>> > From: Steve Comstock 
>> > To: assembler-l...@listserv.uga.edu
>> > Date: 08/19/2011 01:16 PM
>> > Subject: Re: a new POP (was HLASM Manuals )
>> > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Assembler List 
>> >
>> > On 8/19/2011 10:55 AM, Martin Trübner wrote:
>> > > While I am happy with the L.R. I like to comment on Kens'
>> > >
>> > >>> The "assembler" manual I would like to see rewritten is the
>> "Principles
>> > > of Opeertations"
>> > >
>> > > Absolutly while POP (the way it is) may have its place- I have a
>> > > hard time reading about a certain instruction (when I need to).
>> > >
>> > > It is IMHO more than counterproductive (I dare to say confusing)
>> > > for the reader (but time saving for the authors of the
>> hardware/micro-code)
>> > > to have identical instructions with only variations in a-mode and/
>> > or targets in one
>> > > paragraph- this results in very subtle changes in the wording
>> > > for the various flavours. I would prefer (even if this would
>> > > create a manual three times as big) every instruction in a
>> > > separate text.
>> > >
>> > > For illustration look at TRxx (xx="OT/OO/TT/TO") - or (for a simpler
>> > > sample) look at AH/AHY/AH/AGHI.
>> > >
>> > > It would make life easier for everyone using this book if each of
>> > > these instructions would be explained in a different chapter. The way
>> > > it is now is that the reader is challenged to read all the fine print.
>> > >
>> > > To me it means reading the instructions at least twice (if not more).
>> > > (and all the AH is explained in different text.
>> >
>> > It is an inherently complex topic. It takes work to 'get it'. And
>> > even then, subtleties are easily missed. Who on this list has not
>> > written an Assembler program and then five years (or even six months)
>> > later wondered how they could write this crap? :-)
>> >
>> > It takes practice and experience. I'm not sure the authors can do
>> > much better without skimming over points that come back to bite
>> > the unsuspecting programmer later.
>> >
>> > Of course, a class can help speed the process.   :-)
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Martin
>> > >
>> > > Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
>> > > more at http://www.picapcpu.de
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > -Steve Comstock
>> > The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
>> >
>> > 303-393-8716
>> > http://www.trainersfriend.com
>> >
>> > * Special promotion: 15% off on all DB2 training classes
>> >      scheduled by September 1, taught by year end 2011
>> >
>> > * Check out our entire DB2 curriculum at:
>> >      http://www.trainersfriend.com/DB2_and_VSAM

Re: EDG6823I

2011-08-19 Thread Arturo A Arca
Thanks James I will give it a try and post the results.. 



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I've fixed some mismatches by running EDGUTIL with a parm of MEND(SMSTAPE) as
found in an entry from the archives. 
 
 
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0801&L=ibm-main&D=0&P=1531965 
  
 

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I have tried several things and still can not get the volume out of the
status.
EDG6823I VOLUME 22 STATUS SCRATCH IS INCONSISTENT - VOLUME CATALOG STATUS
PRIVATE LIBRARY MANAGER STATUS PRIVATE 

I  was able to change alter the status form private to scratch in the TCDB.
but, the library manager have not been able. so, I've come to the group to ask
if anyone has ever encountered this issue and how was it resolved.

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Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
What you showed will do a STH of some register somewhere, but not necessarily 
R4.  For it to be R4, you need another blank character after the IEFUJV, or 
else delete the AL1(7) byte, or change the CL8 to CL9, etc.  Adding 3 more 
blank characters would allow this code to store R4 somewhere and then not skip 
over the execution of the next instruction after the IEFUJV eye-catcher.

Bill Fairchild

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---
And I've had a few doozies - one program should have had an LA instruction that 
got keypunched as an LH; the error was discovered fourteen years later when IBM 
changed a control block around so the referenced field wound up on an odd 
boundary.

This one took me 8 months to isolate:

B  12(,R15)  X'47F0F00C'
DC   AL1(7),CL8'IEFUJV'   X'07C9C5C6E4D1E54040'

Ended up doing a STH of R4 at what appeared to be a totally random address. 
Only failed when the clobbered storage was executed.  :-)

Our systems staff had its own sandbox to play, and test, all changes, but that 
guy's "under-confidence" was such that he wouldn't even test on our sandbox.

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Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-19 Thread John Eells

I should know better than to post something obscurely humorous on a Friday.

Some years ago, I drove the original requirements inside IBM against 
SMP/E to support the use of COPYMOD, and the corresponding support in 
IEBCOPY for PARM=SPCLCMOD to provide RC0 when members are successfully 
copied but not reblocked for some reason.  (Some load modules are not 
eligible.)  This was in turn driven from a number of interrelated 
customer requests.


But to answer my own question--which was meant to be 
rhetorical!--COPYMOD, the IEBCOPY function that allows load modules to 
be reblocked, was introduced with MVS/XA DFP V1 in 1983 (as shown in IBM 
Announcement Letter Number 283-050 dated March 31, 1983), some 28 (for 
Shmuel, that's x'1C' ;-) years ago.


Mike Schwab wrote:

https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1IO00992
2005 Request a setting controlling use of COPY or COPYMOD (reblocks
load modules).

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:23 AM, John Eells  wrote:

Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:


With accompanying copy utilities. For load libraries IEBCOPY now knows
how to reblock, even though long ago in a galaxy far away it didn't.


Wow.  How long ago was *that*?

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Re: Rockets in Ashdod, very near to my home, yesterday and today.

2011-08-19 Thread Rick Fochtman

--


Many Rockets fire from Gaza to Ashdod, near my home, yesterday and today.
30-45 seconds from the start of the siren to the explosion.
If you outside with your car, continue to drive.
You do not have enough time to look for a shelter. If you stop the car and
run, your chances are the same as if you continue to drive.
If you are in home, search for room with some protection or go to the stairs
room.
After the first explosion wait few seconds, maybe more than one rockets were
fired.
Today few people in Ashdod were injured from the rockets.
Ashdod is beautiful city and never boring city...

These rockets are fired without specific target.
The target is the people, any people are good target for these people. Just
pull the trigger and hide.
 



Sounds just like the air base at Nha Trang in 1972. And the Mekong Delta 
in early 1973.


Nice places to be from. FAR from.

Keep your head down..

Rick

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Re: HLASM Manuals

2011-08-19 Thread Rick Fochtman

-
How to improve the Assembler manuals? Well, one thing that comes leaping 
to mind: WRT the Reference, I would really love it if you would put 
individual build-in functions in the TOC. You do this for Assembler 
statements and even system variables... Why not for built-in functions 
as well. (This is something that has irked me for DECADES!)

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Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-19 Thread Rick Fochtman

Ted MacNEIL wrote:


couldn't be troubled to double-check his work and still get my work done.
   



 


Where do you draw the lines?
   



Always a difficult call.

In 30 years (PLUS), I've only been involved in terminating people twice.
One was easy: he was so incompetent, we had to remove all his update access.
He couldn't find his butt with both hands, a flashlight and a roadmap.

The other was heart wrenching: he was the overly cautious type, and he had two small kids and a single income family. 
 


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You don't have to like it, but you DO have to do it.


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Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-19 Thread Rick Fochtman

---
And I've had a few doozies - one program should have had an LA 
instruction that got keypunched as an LH; the error was discovered 
fourteen years later when IBM changed a control block around so the 
referenced field wound up on an odd boundary.


This one took me 8 months to isolate:

   B  12(,R15)  X'47F0F00C'
   DC   AL1(7),CL8'IEFUJV'   X'07C9C5C6E4D1E54040'

Ended up doing a STH of R4 at what appeared to be a totally random 
address. Only failed when the clobbered storage was executed.  :-)


Our systems staff had its own sandbox to play, and test, all changes, 
but that guy's "under-confidence" was such that he wouldn't even test on 
our sandbox.


Rick

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Re: Assembler with ISPF Presentation

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Finnell
Oh crap, it was John Hancock, not Aetna. File12 of current CBTTAPE. I  
haven't tried it since 1998.
 
 
In a message dated 8/19/2011 1:20:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
efinnel...@aol.com writes:

I'll  have to look. Ron Mura was original  author

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Re: Rockets in Ashdod, very near to my home, yesterday and today.

2011-08-19 Thread Grinsell, Don
Reminds me of my time in Afghanistan...if the rockets went overhead, good.  If 
they came down on your side of the sandbags, not so good.  God willing, you'll 
remain safe and this nonsense will eventually end.

--
 
Donald Grinsell
State of Montana

"You can observe a lot just by watching."
-- Yogi Berra


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shai hess
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:18 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Rockets in Ashdod, very near to my home, yesterday and today.

Many Rockets fire from Gaza to Ashdod, near my home, yesterday and today.
30-45 seconds from the start of the siren to the explosion.
If you outside with your car, continue to drive.
You do not have enough time to look for a shelter. If you stop the car and run, 
your chances are the same as if you continue to drive.
If you are in home, search for room with some protection or go to the stairs 
room.
After the first explosion wait few seconds, maybe more than one rockets were 
fired.
Today few people in Ashdod were injured from the rockets.
Ashdod is beautiful city and never boring city...

These rockets are fired without specific target.
The target is the people, any people are good target for these people. Just 
pull the trigger and hide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AYjcDI1gdA&feature=player_embedded

Shai

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Opening up Boulder Doc to user comments??? (was a new POP)

2011-08-19 Thread David Cole

There is a germ of an interesting idea here...

What about IBM changing the Boulder online doc 
(http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp) 
to permit moderated annotations/commentary arising from user experience???


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At 8/19/2011 02:00 PM, Kirk Talman wrote:

the root cause of most complaints about any form of documentation today is
that we have been spoiled by search engines and that we have a lot less
time to do what is right over what is expedient.  the method I have been
trying to sell on my job is use wikis as connective tissue to hold and
make effective the flesh and bones of other documentation formats.  the
response has been blank looks, sneers and ugly words.

The community that consists of the members of this list could just build
the future by making a site which represents their cumulative knowledge.
It would require managed access to fend off trolls.

Example:  IBM has a nice site for a glossary for terms.  But because it
represents knowledge gathered from across the enterprise, it appears to be
less than current and has omissions.

If wikimedia software (or the equivalent) were made to have a separate
permission list for each namespace,, and if automatic disambiguation were
implemented, the contributions of disparate groups could seamlessly (or
almost so) be merged into one knowledgebase - completely w/o a donnybrook
over who is right about, oh, say, USS.

pup

Our greatest danger in life is in permitting the urgent things to crowd
out the important. - Charles E. Hummel
Efforts and courage are not enough without purpose and direction. - John
F. Kennedy

IBM Mainframe Assembler List  wrote on
08/19/2011 01:14:25 PM:

> From: Steve Comstock 
> To: assembler-l...@listserv.uga.edu
> Date: 08/19/2011 01:16 PM
> Subject: Re: a new POP (was HLASM Manuals )
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Assembler List 
>
> On 8/19/2011 10:55 AM, Martin Trübner wrote:
> > While I am happy with the L.R. I like to comment on Kens'
> >
> >>> The "assembler" manual I would like to see rewritten is the
"Principles
> > of Opeertations"
> >
> > Absolutly while POP (the way it is) may have its place- I have a
> > hard time reading about a certain instruction (when I need to).
> >
> > It is IMHO more than counterproductive (I dare to say confusing)
> > for the reader (but time saving for the authors of the
hardware/micro-code)
> > to have identical instructions with only variations in a-mode and/
> or targets in one
> > paragraph- this results in very subtle changes in the wording
> > for the various flavours. I would prefer (even if this would
> > create a manual three times as big) every instruction in a
> > separate text.
> >
> > For illustration look at TRxx (xx="OT/OO/TT/TO") - or (for a simpler
> > sample) look at AH/AHY/AH/AGHI.
> >
> > It would make life easier for everyone using this book if each of
> > these instructions would be explained in a different chapter. The way
> > it is now is that the reader is challenged to read all the fine print.
> >
> > To me it means reading the instructions at least twice (if not more).
> > (and all the AH is explained in different text.
>
> It is an inherently complex topic. It takes work to 'get it'. And
> even then, subtleties are easily missed. Who on this list has not
> written an Assembler program and then five years (or even six months)
> later wondered how they could write this crap? :-)
>
> It takes practice and experience. I'm not sure the authors can do
> much better without skimming over points that come back to bite
> the unsuspecting programmer later.
>
> Of course, a class can help speed the process.   :-)
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Martin
> >
> > Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE
> > more at http://www.picapcpu.de
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Kind regards,
>
> -Steve Comstock
> The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
>
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>
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>
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Re: Assembler with ISPF Presentation

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Finnell
I'll have to look. Ron Mura was original author. There used to be an Aetna  
mods file, I tried searching yesterday, but Google thought I was a machine 
and  wouldn't let me be.
 
 
In a message dated 8/19/2011 5:23:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
veilleu...@aetna.com writes:

Which  Aetna mods would those  be?



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Re: EDG6823I

2011-08-19 Thread Williamson, James R
I've fixed some mismatches by running EDGUTIL with a parm of MEND(SMSTAPE) as 
found in an entry from the archives. 
 
 
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0801&L=ibm-main&D=0&P=1531965 
  
 

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I have tried several things and still can not get the volume out of the status.
EDG6823I VOLUME 22 STATUS SCRATCH IS INCONSISTENT - VOLUME CATALOG STATUS 
PRIVATE LIBRARY MANAGER STATUS PRIVATE 

I  was able to change alter the status form private to scratch in the TCDB. 
but, the library manager have not been able. so, I've come to the group to ask 
if anyone has ever encountered this issue and how was it resolved.

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EDG6823I

2011-08-19 Thread Arturo
I have tried several things and still can not get the volume out of the status.
EDG6823I VOLUME 22 STATUS SCRATCH IS INCONSISTENT - VOLUME CATALOG STATUS 
PRIVATE LIBRARY MANAGER STATUS PRIVATE 

I  was able to change alter the status form private to scratch in the TCDB. 
but, the library manager have not been able. so, I've come to the group to ask 
if anyone has ever encountered this issue and how was it resolved.

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Re: SV: PDS(E) "invalid" membernames give suprising behaviour in ISPF Data Set List Utility (BROWSE)

2011-08-19 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 8/19/2011 5:13 AM, Thomas Berg wrote:

4. You can update JFCBELNM with member name consisting of
characters that are not limited to those which can be
specified in JCL. The member name cannot consist of bytes
that all are X'FF'.

5. Process the member with an OPEN TYPE=J macro, a series of
PUT or WRITE macros, and the CLOSE macro. The system issues a
STOW macro when the data set is closed.

Note: If the member name specified in JFCBELNM begins with
'+' (X'4E'), '-' (X'60'), or X'Fx', the system does not issue
the STOW macro. CLOSE will interpret '+' (X'4E'), '-'
(X'60'), or X'Fx' in JFCBELNM as an indication that the data
set is a generation data set (GDS) of a generation data group
(GDG).


That sounds like a reportable error. JFCBELNM is not supposed to 
be relevant unless JFCBIND1 has either the JFCPDS (member name) 
or JFCGDG (generation number) set on.


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Keeping HSA, IODF, and IOCDS Hardware Tokens in SYNC

2011-08-19 Thread Chip Grantham
I seem to always run the risk of getting the hardware tokens out of sync. 
Can someone point me to some good reading on keeping them in sync? 

Thanks,

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Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-19 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1IO00992
2005 Request a setting controlling use of COPY or COPYMOD (reblocks
load modules).

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:23 AM, John Eells  wrote:
> Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
>
>> With accompanying copy utilities. For load libraries IEBCOPY now knows
>> how to reblock, even though long ago in a galaxy far away it didn't.
>
> Wow.  How long ago was *that*?
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Re: Rockets in Ashdod, very near to my home, yesterday and today.

2011-08-19 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Shai, 



I heard the news about this, American news agencies and the BBC.  It is good to 
hear that you are okay.  


Best Regards, 


LInda 

- Original Message -


From: "shai hess"  
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 2:18:18 AM 
Subject: Rockets in Ashdod, very near to my home, yesterday and today. 

Many Rockets fire from Gaza to Ashdod, near my home, yesterday and today. 
30-45 seconds from the start of the siren to the explosion. 
If you outside with your car, continue to drive. 
You do not have enough time to look for a shelter. If you stop the car and 
run, your chances are the same as if you continue to drive. 
If you are in home, search for room with some protection or go to the stairs 
room. 
After the first explosion wait few seconds, maybe more than one rockets were 
fired. 
Today few people in Ashdod were injured from the rockets. 
Ashdod is beautiful city and never boring city... 

These rockets are fired without specific target. 
The target is the people, any people are good target for these people. Just 
pull the trigger and hide. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AYjcDI1gdA&feature=player_embedded 

Shai 

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Re: Get a user password from RACF.

2011-08-19 Thread Lou Losee
Well technically the user ID is stored since it is the name of the User
profile.

Lou
Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity


On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Tom Russell wrote:

> There is no command that will get a Password from RACF.  You can reset it
> to a known value if you have authority, but you can not display it.
>
> Your assumption that there is hash of the password is incorrect.  RACF
> encrypts the user ID with the password, and the resultant ciphertext is all
> that is stored in the RACF data set.  This is done so that neither the user
> ID nor the password is stored in the clear for perusal by hackers on the
> RACF data set, or more likely on a backup copy.
>
> regards, Tom
>
> On 2011-08-19 12:00 AM, IBM-MAIN automatic digest system wrote:
>
>> Date:Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:20:42 -0400
>> From:"Chicklon, Thomas"
>> Subject: Re: Get a user password from RACF.
>>
>> I am not aware of this being documented anywhere. Maybe someone else can
>> jump in with that info if they have it.
>>
>> Tom Chicklon
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> thanks ,
>> Is the literature specifying the HASH algurithm and where the HASH
>> password
>> is located?
>>
>
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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Jim Thomas
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:07 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Security is fun in the PC world

> I think this has inherently happened for decades, that happens is that the 
> ex-employees' network and mainframe id's are either suspended or revoked. 
> Either way, they lose immediate access to the company network and the 
> mainframe.

I was laid off, let go, downsized, etc., in 1974, 1987, 1993, and 2001.  Only 
in 2001 was I not allowed to do anything else with the computer systems after 
receiving the news.  In the worst of the three other cases, I continued to have 
access to the systems for six more weeks.  I think you need a lot more data 
observations.

Bill Fairchild 

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Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:47:15 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote:

>The requirement was that a physical block not be less than 18 bytes.
>Older tape technology could not distinguish blocks shorter than 18 bytes
>from tape noise.
>..l.
>Similar considerations would also apply to VB files after taking the BDW
>and RDW bytes into account, and in this case there would have had to be
>an  minimum actual record length of 14 (including RDW) for the last
>record (LRECL for VB is only the max allowed) in order to guarantee success.
>
Of course, RECFM=VS, (but strangely not RECFM=VB) provides for
null segments which can pad blocks to meet the requirement.  Does
QSAM generate null segments as needed?  I know that with BSAM
it's up to the programmer.

You say "14", with which I agree.  "Using Data sets" says "18".
I've submitted an RCF.

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Re: Bar Codes coding using Enterprise COBOL

2011-08-19 Thread Howard Turetzky
As the last person to "own" the EANSRC code at IBM Printing Systems (Now Ricoh 
Production Print Solutions, nee InfoPrint), EANSRC really became obsolete about 
1992 when AFP (IPDS) printers learned to create their own barcodes. When you 
call EANSRC it returns a series of code points for characters in a font. The 
characters are the lines and spaces that make up a linear barcode. These 
characters are formatted, generally, by a Page Definition (PAGEDEF).

Of course, barcodes are meant to be read by a barcode scanner. Print technology 
affects how the barcode appears to the scanner. Because an application has no 
knowledge of the print device characteristics, barcodes may not always be 
successfully scanned. This is why barcodes are now produced by the printer 
itself. The printer controller knows details of dot size, resolution and other 
issues, and can create barcodes with much improved read rates. Since this 
facility was built into AFP printers, the number of barcode types has nearly 
doubled. Linear barcodes are being replaced by "2D" barcodes that can contain 
far more data in the same space, and are redundant, that is, they can still be 
read even if damaged.

So how to make barcodes? If you are using a PAGEDEF to format your print 
output, you can use the BARCODE subcommand of the FIELD command that places 
text to create barcodes in the printer. You basically specify the barcode type, 
position, size and data and the printing system does the rest. For example:

 Printline repeat 4  
   position margin next;

 FIELD  START 1  LENGTH 10 /*barcode variable data from print file*/ 
   POSITION * 0.4 /* starting position */   
   BARCODE   
TYPE CODE39   /*barcode type to generate*/   
MOD 1 /* some barcodes have variant types */
   
HRI BELOW  /* position the human-readable text */   
   
HRIFONT GT10 
HEIGHT 0.25 IN;   /* vertical size of the barcode */

You can find out much more in the Page Printer Formatting Aid User's Guide, 
S544-5284-10 (IBM Pubs), and more than you wanted to know about barcodes in AFP 
in the Bar Code Object Content Architecture Reference, AFPC-0005-07 (available 
at afpcolor.org). 
 
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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Gould
 Chuck,

That may well be the case, but, a lot (all?) of fixes put out by MS does not 
inform anyone (like IBM fixes do) what the fixes are for (like integrity 
issues) so you have no idea if you can apply just one for the issue. MS expects 
you to put on a fix pack (equilivince of the old put tape?) on with no 
f..ing idea what it addresses.

I do not recall of ever hearing about MS putting out a single fix for an 
integrity issue have you?

Ed



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Parallel sysplex

2011-08-19 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello,
 I am new to Parallel sysplex.  I am trying to understand the
Parallel sysplex configured in our shop.

For this, I refereed below redbooks.

1) merging system into sysplex.pdf
2) MVS Setting Up a Sysplex.pdf

   Do we have any other book or document available, which can help me in
steps to configure this. ( Including RACFPLEX, SMSPLEX etc..)

Thanks & Regards
Saurabh



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Re: HLASM Manuals

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Gould
 Dave,

Sounds like a book to be written by perhaps you? Get it published and you will 
be a star.



Ed

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Re: Get a user password from RACF.

2011-08-19 Thread Tom Russell
There is no command that will get a Password from RACF.  You can reset 
it to a known value if you have authority, but you can not display it.


Your assumption that there is hash of the password is incorrect.  RACF 
encrypts the user ID with the password, and the resultant ciphertext is 
all that is stored in the RACF data set.  This is done so that neither 
the user ID nor the password is stored in the clear for perusal by 
hackers on the RACF data set, or more likely on a backup copy.


regards, Tom

On 2011-08-19 12:00 AM, IBM-MAIN automatic digest system wrote:

Date:Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:20:42 -0400
From:"Chicklon, Thomas"
Subject: Re: Get a user password from RACF.

I am not aware of this being documented anywhere. Maybe someone else can
jump in with that info if they have it.

Tom Chicklon

-Original Message-

thanks ,
Is the literature specifying the HASH algurithm and where the HASH
password
is located?


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Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-19 Thread Joel C. Ewing
The requirement was that a physical block not be less than 18 bytes. 
Older tape technology could not distinguish blocks shorter than 18 bytes 
from tape noise.


Since an FB dataset with LRECL < 18 could easily end up with a final 
block containing only 1 record (possibly even in the middle of the 
dataset if extended with DISP=MOD) I would think the physical block 
restriction would also have to imply a minimal LRECL of 18 as well. 
Similar considerations would also apply to VB files after taking the BDW 
and RDW bytes into account, and in this case there would have had to be 
an  minimum actual record length of 14 (including RDW) for the last 
record (LRECL for VB is only the max allowed) in order to guarantee success.


I'm pretty sure all those restrictions no longer apply, since all tapes 
subsystems from 3490 and later compact the logical blocks known to the 
operating system into physical "super blocks" and the physical block 
size on the tape is no longer under the control of operating system code.

  Joel C Ewing

On 08/19/2011 06:48 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

In
<1240651948-1313637071-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-95694995-@b12.c1.bise6.blackberry>,
on 08/18/2011
at 03:11 AM, Ted MacNEIL  said:


I thought there was a minimum of 18 bytes for LRECL.


No.

CIG




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Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-19 Thread Mark Zelden
Speaking of my REXXSTOR exec, based on a recent conversation with an IBM 
developer using it as a model, I have updated the exec to show LSQA usage
and changed the "region available" calculation to be more accurate.  I won't
mention the person's name as they may wish to remain anonymous, but
I will thank him publicly anyway.   The updated version is already on my web 
site (URL below) and should show up in the CBT updates page next week.

The new output looks like this:


   V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E  
   ---  


 Region requested: 12K  

 Max Priv Region Region Region   LSQA Region
 Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use In-Use  Avail
                
Below 16M: 10216K  9728K  9664K  1316K   700K  8200K
Above 16M:   1711104K262144K262144K  2976K 12184K259168K

Above 2G :10G (64-bit MEMLIMIT) 
MEMLIMIT Source:  SMF   


Regards,

Mark
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:41:36 -0500, Mark Zelden  wrote:

>Which was how I originally determined what Kirk wrote about where the region
>size came from for TSO OMVS (and ISHELL).But it is also documented 
>somewhere
>in the manuals.   Using my exec was just a lot easier than trying to find where
>it is documented.  :-)
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>On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:02:44 -0400, Don Poitras  wrote:
>
>>Mark Zelden wrote a nice REXX program to show memory. You can run under
>>TSO or TSO OMVS (or on a native shell session.)
>>
>>http://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/rexxstor.txt
>>
>>Kirk Wolf wrote:
>>>
>>> Randy,
>>>
>>> See our latest response to your thread on our free support forum here:
>>> http://dovetail.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1133
>>>
>>> (Someone here may have a suggestion as to how to diagnose region size under
>>> TSO OMVS... it would be nice if there was a simple way to display available
>>> region size from the LDA while in TSO OMVS).
>>>
>>> Kirk Wolf
>>> Dovetailed Technologies
>>> http://dovetail.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Randy Hoekstra
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't
>>> > get around the "FSUM9225 no memory: EDC5132I NOT ENOUGH MEMORY." errors 
>>> > with
>>> > a TSO region size of 2047M. Our test system CSA = 2404K, ECSA = 61588K. 
>>> > Any
>>> > suggestions?
>>
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Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:48:19 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

>In
><1240651948-1313637071-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-95694995-@b12.c1.bise6.blackberry>,
>on 08/18/2011
>   at 03:11 AM, Ted MacNEIL said:
>
>>I thought there was a minimum of 18 bytes for LRECL.
>
>No.
>
>CIG
>
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
It looks like that by default zPDT does take the initial TOD value from the
Linux hardware clock, unless you use settod.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Scott Rowe  wrote:

> I just looked at the zPDT redbook and found there is a settod command,
> which shoukd be used before IPL.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez <
> alvarogui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I will see at manuals, zPDT is stopped when you stop z/OS image, it is
>> supossed that z/OS may work normally so the IPL procedure must works
>> but
>> its's true that there are other functions that must be done out of the
>> z/OS,
>> if i see something, i tell you.
>>
>> Thank you Scott
>>
>> 2011/8/19 Scott Rowe 
>>
>> > On a mainframe you can set the TOD clock from the HMC, then re-activate
>> an
>> > LPAR to get the new time.  Can you just do that on zPDT?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez <
>> > alvarogui...@gmail.com
>> >  > wrote:
>> >
>> > > It's independt, the Linux hour goes his own way and functionality of
>> the
>> > > z/OS system under zPDT is like a z/OS system in a mainframe, there is
>> any
>> > > way to inform the TOD of z/OS trhough zPDT
>> > >
>> > > 2011/8/19 Scott Rowe 
>> > >
>> > > > Is there maybe a zPDT option to allow updating the TOD clock, or
>> maybe
>> > > you
>> > > > just need to set the Linux clock properly?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez <
>> > > > alvarogui...@gmail.com
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Thanks for the comments,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If anyone have any suggestion will be ver much apreciated, I'm
>> > > completly
>> > > > > lost.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best regards and have a nice weekend.
>> > > > > Álvaro.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2011/8/19 Binyamin Dissen 
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas <
>> > > > j...@thethomasresidence.us
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > :>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable
>> > > > > position.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > No idea how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine
>> in a
>> > > > long
>> > > > > > time.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would
>> > > > > > :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE
>> > > > > > :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > :>-Original Message-
>> > > > > >  :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:
>> > IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu]
>> > > > On
>> > > > > > Behalf
>> > > > > > :>Of Binyamin Dissen
>> > > > > > :>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM
>> > > > > > :>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> > > > > > :>Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
>> > > > > > :> wrote:
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT
>> to
>> > > > change
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > :>:>local and UTC/GMT hour.
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
>> > > > > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
>> > > > > UTC/LOCAL
>> > > > > > :>TIME
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>:>I reply with
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs,
>> I
>> > > reply
>> > > > > at
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > :>:>time:
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>:>R 00,U
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
>> > > > > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
>> > > > > UTC/LOCAL
>> > > > > > :>TIME
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.
>> > > > > > :>
>> > > > > > :>How does the STP affect this?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Binyamin Dissen 
>> > > > > > http://www.dissensoftware.com
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from
>> > me,
>> > > > > > you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
>> > > > > > especially those from irresponsible companies.
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Re: HLASM Manuals

2011-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:11:32 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)  wrote:

>In <201108190905.p7j95yaq028...@ame8.swcp.com>, on 08/19/2011
>   at 05:04 AM, David Cole said:
>
>>John, Thanks for asking...
>
>It looks like he asked on the news group; the message hasn't appeared
>on the list. John, could you post it here? Thanks.
> 
It's on ASSEMBLER-LIST, where it belongs.

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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
I just looked at the zPDT redbook and found there is a settod command, which
shoukd be used before IPL.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez  wrote:

> I will see at manuals, zPDT is stopped when you stop z/OS image, it is
> supossed that z/OS may work normally so the IPL procedure must works
> but
> its's true that there are other functions that must be done out of the
> z/OS,
> if i see something, i tell you.
>
> Thank you Scott
>
> 2011/8/19 Scott Rowe 
>
> > On a mainframe you can set the TOD clock from the HMC, then re-activate
> an
> > LPAR to get the new time.  Can you just do that on zPDT?
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez <
> > alvarogui...@gmail.com
> >  > wrote:
> >
> > > It's independt, the Linux hour goes his own way and functionality of
> the
> > > z/OS system under zPDT is like a z/OS system in a mainframe, there is
> any
> > > way to inform the TOD of z/OS trhough zPDT
> > >
> > > 2011/8/19 Scott Rowe 
> > >
> > > > Is there maybe a zPDT option to allow updating the TOD clock, or
> maybe
> > > you
> > > > just need to set the Linux clock properly?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez <
> > > > alvarogui...@gmail.com
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the comments,
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone have any suggestion will be ver much apreciated, I'm
> > > completly
> > > > > lost.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards and have a nice weekend.
> > > > > Álvaro.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/8/19 Binyamin Dissen 
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas <
> > > > j...@thethomasresidence.us
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable
> > > > > position.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No idea how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine in
> a
> > > > long
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would
> > > > > > :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE
> > > > > > :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :>-Original Message-
> > > > > >  :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:
> > IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu]
> > > > On
> > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > :>Of Binyamin Dissen
> > > > > > :>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM
> > > > > > :>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > > > > > :>Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
> > > > > > :> wrote:
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT
> to
> > > > change
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > :>:>local and UTC/GMT hour.
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > > > > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> > > > > UTC/LOCAL
> > > > > > :>TIME
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>:>I reply with
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I
> > > reply
> > > > > at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > :>:>time:
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>:>R 00,U
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > > > > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> > > > > UTC/LOCAL
> > > > > > :>TIME
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :>How does the STP affect this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Binyamin Dissen 
> > > > > > http://www.dissensoftware.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from
> > me,
> > > > > > you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
> > > > > > especially those from irresponsible companies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Un saludo.
> > > > > Álvaro Guirao
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > --
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
I will see at manuals, zPDT is stopped when you stop z/OS image, it is
supossed that z/OS may work normally so the IPL procedure must works but
its's true that there are other functions that must be done out of the z/OS,
if i see something, i tell you.

Thank you Scott

2011/8/19 Scott Rowe 

> On a mainframe you can set the TOD clock from the HMC, then re-activate an
> LPAR to get the new time.  Can you just do that on zPDT?
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez <
> alvarogui...@gmail.com
>  > wrote:
>
> > It's independt, the Linux hour goes his own way and functionality of the
> > z/OS system under zPDT is like a z/OS system in a mainframe, there is any
> > way to inform the TOD of z/OS trhough zPDT
> >
> > 2011/8/19 Scott Rowe 
> >
> > > Is there maybe a zPDT option to allow updating the TOD clock, or maybe
> > you
> > > just need to set the Linux clock properly?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez <
> > > alvarogui...@gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the comments,
> > > >
> > > > If anyone have any suggestion will be ver much apreciated, I'm
> > completly
> > > > lost.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards and have a nice weekend.
> > > > Álvaro.
> > > >
> > > > 2011/8/19 Binyamin Dissen 
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas <
> > > j...@thethomasresidence.us
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > :>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?.
> > > > >
> > > > > A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable
> > > > position.
> > > > >
> > > > > No idea how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine in a
> > > long
> > > > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would
> > > > > :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE
> > > > > :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP.
> > > > >
> > > > > :>-Original Message-
> > > > >  :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:
> IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu]
> > > On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > > :>Of Binyamin Dissen
> > > > > :>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM
> > > > > :>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > > > > :>Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
> > > > > :> wrote:
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to
> > > change
> > > > > the
> > > > > :>:>local and UTC/GMT hour.
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > > > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> > > > UTC/LOCAL
> > > > > :>TIME
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>:>I reply with
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I
> > reply
> > > > at
> > > > > the
> > > > > :>:>time:
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>:>R 00,U
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > > > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> > > > UTC/LOCAL
> > > > > :>TIME
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :>How does the STP affect this?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Binyamin Dissen 
> > > > > http://www.dissensoftware.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from
> me,
> > > > > you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
> > > > >
> > > > > I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
> > > > > especially those from irresponsible companies.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > --
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Un saludo.
> > > > Álvaro Guirao
> > > >
> > > >
> --
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
On a mainframe you can set the TOD clock from the HMC, then re-activate an
LPAR to get the new time.  Can you just do that on zPDT?

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez  wrote:

> It's independt, the Linux hour goes his own way and functionality of the
> z/OS system under zPDT is like a z/OS system in a mainframe, there is any
> way to inform the TOD of z/OS trhough zPDT
>
> 2011/8/19 Scott Rowe 
>
> > Is there maybe a zPDT option to allow updating the TOD clock, or maybe
> you
> > just need to set the Linux clock properly?
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez <
> > alvarogui...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the comments,
> > >
> > > If anyone have any suggestion will be ver much apreciated, I'm
> completly
> > > lost.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards and have a nice weekend.
> > > Álvaro.
> > >
> > > 2011/8/19 Binyamin Dissen 
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas <
> > j...@thethomasresidence.us
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > :>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?.
> > > >
> > > > A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable
> > > position.
> > > >
> > > > No idea how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine in a
> > long
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would
> > > > :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE
> > > > :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP.
> > > >
> > > > :>-Original Message-
> > > >  :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu]
> > On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > :>Of Binyamin Dissen
> > > > :>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM
> > > > :>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > > > :>Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem
> > > > :>
> > > > :>On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
> > > > :> wrote:
> > > > :>
> > > > :>:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to
> > change
> > > > the
> > > > :>:>local and UTC/GMT hour.
> > > > :>
> > > > :>:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
> > > > :>
> > > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> > > UTC/LOCAL
> > > > :>TIME
> > > > :>
> > > > :>:>I reply with
> > > > :>
> > > > :>:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
> > > > :>
> > > > :>:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I
> reply
> > > at
> > > > the
> > > > :>:>time:
> > > > :>
> > > > :>:>R 00,U
> > > > :>
> > > > :>:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
> > > > :>
> > > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> > > UTC/LOCAL
> > > > :>TIME
> > > > :>
> > > > :>There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.
> > > > :>
> > > > :>How does the STP affect this?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Binyamin Dissen 
> > > > http://www.dissensoftware.com
> > > >
> > > > Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me,
> > > > you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
> > > >
> > > > I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
> > > > especially those from irresponsible companies.
> > > >
> > > >
> --
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Un saludo.
> > > Álvaro Guirao
> > >
> > > --
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
It's independt, the Linux hour goes his own way and functionality of the
z/OS system under zPDT is like a z/OS system in a mainframe, there is any
way to inform the TOD of z/OS trhough zPDT

2011/8/19 Scott Rowe 

> Is there maybe a zPDT option to allow updating the TOD clock, or maybe you
> just need to set the Linux clock properly?
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez <
> alvarogui...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the comments,
> >
> > If anyone have any suggestion will be ver much apreciated, I'm completly
> > lost.
> >
> >
> > Best regards and have a nice weekend.
> > Álvaro.
> >
> > 2011/8/19 Binyamin Dissen 
> >
> > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas <
> j...@thethomasresidence.us
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > :>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?.
> > >
> > > A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable
> > position.
> > >
> > > No idea how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine in a
> long
> > > time.
> > >
> > > :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would
> > > :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE
> > > :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP.
> > >
> > > :>-Original Message-
> > >  :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu]
> On
> > > Behalf
> > > :>Of Binyamin Dissen
> > > :>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM
> > > :>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > > :>Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem
> > > :>
> > > :>On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
> > > :> wrote:
> > > :>
> > > :>:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to
> change
> > > the
> > > :>:>local and UTC/GMT hour.
> > > :>
> > > :>:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
> > > :>
> > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> > UTC/LOCAL
> > > :>TIME
> > > :>
> > > :>:>I reply with
> > > :>
> > > :>:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
> > > :>
> > > :>:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply
> > at
> > > the
> > > :>:>time:
> > > :>
> > > :>:>R 00,U
> > > :>
> > > :>:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
> > > :>
> > > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> > UTC/LOCAL
> > > :>TIME
> > > :>
> > > :>There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.
> > > :>
> > > :>How does the STP affect this?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Binyamin Dissen 
> > > http://www.dissensoftware.com
> > >
> > > Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel
> > >
> > >
> > > Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me,
> > > you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
> > >
> > > I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
> > > especially those from irresponsible companies.
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Un saludo.
> > Álvaro Guirao
> >
> > --
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
Is there maybe a zPDT option to allow updating the TOD clock, or maybe you
just need to set the Linux clock properly?

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez  wrote:

> Thanks for the comments,
>
> If anyone have any suggestion will be ver much apreciated, I'm completly
> lost.
>
>
> Best regards and have a nice weekend.
> Álvaro.
>
> 2011/8/19 Binyamin Dissen 
>
> > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > :>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?.
> >
> > A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable
> position.
> >
> > No idea how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine in a long
> > time.
> >
> > :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would
> > :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE
> > :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP.
> >
> > :>-Original Message-
> >  :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> > Behalf
> > :>Of Binyamin Dissen
> > :>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM
> > :>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > :>Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem
> > :>
> > :>On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
> > :> wrote:
> > :>
> > :>:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to change
> > the
> > :>:>local and UTC/GMT hour.
> > :>
> > :>:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
> > :>
> > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> UTC/LOCAL
> > :>TIME
> > :>
> > :>:>I reply with
> > :>
> > :>:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
> > :>
> > :>:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply
> at
> > the
> > :>:>time:
> > :>
> > :>:>R 00,U
> > :>
> > :>:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
> > :>
> > :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> > :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR
> UTC/LOCAL
> > :>TIME
> > :>
> > :>There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.
> > :>
> > :>How does the STP affect this?
> >
> > --
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Thanks for the comments,

If anyone have any suggestion will be ver much apreciated, I'm completly
lost.


Best regards and have a nice weekend.
Álvaro.

2011/8/19 Binyamin Dissen 

> On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas 
> wrote:
>
> :>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?.
>
> A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable position.
>
> No idea how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine in a long
> time.
>
> :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would
> :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE
> :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP.
>
> :>-Original Message-
>  :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf
> :>Of Binyamin Dissen
> :>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM
> :>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> :>Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem
> :>
> :>On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
> :> wrote:
> :>
> :>:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to change
> the
> :>:>local and UTC/GMT hour.
> :>
> :>:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
> :>
> :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
> :>TIME
> :>
> :>:>I reply with
> :>
> :>:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
> :>
> :>:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at
> the
> :>:>time:
> :>
> :>:>R 00,U
> :>
> :>:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
> :>
> :>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
> :>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
> :>TIME
> :>
> :>There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.
> :>
> :>How does the STP affect this?
>
> --
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>
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas 
wrote:

:>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?. 

A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable position.

No idea how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine in a long time.

:>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would 
:>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE
:>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP.

:>-Original Message-
:>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
:>Of Binyamin Dissen
:>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM
:>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
:>Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem
:>
:>On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
:> wrote:
:>
:>:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to change the
:>:>local and UTC/GMT hour.
:>
:>:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
:>
:>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
:>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
:>TIME
:>
:>:>I reply with
:>
:>:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
:>
:>:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the
:>:>time:
:>
:>:>R 00,U
:>
:>:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
:>
:>:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
:>:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
:>TIME
:>
:>There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.
:>
:>How does the STP affect this?

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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Okay ... then just reply R 0U  is that not what you wanted to 
begin with or did I miss something ??. 
   

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Of Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem

Then I only change the local hour, in this case system don't issues
IEA903A message.

I have tried and this is the result:


* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
 IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME



2011/8/19 Jim Thomas 

> >I reply with
>
> >R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
>
> >Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at
the
> >time:
>
> >R 00,U
>
> >and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
>
> >* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME
>
> >Please, help!
>
>
> Re-try without 'UTC' at the end of your reply.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Jim Thomas
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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread Staller, Allan
Hear hear! 


That said, I do fully admit that the PC's are good for what they were 
engineered to be .. a PERSONAL computer, NOT a BUSINESS computer !!. 


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Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir,

LMAO . 

Okay .. I'm  sorry .. I tried to stay away and as soon
I'd seen his (previous) post and your (previous) reply 
.. I knew exactly where this was headed.

A . I miss the old days of simplicity and plain 
english !!. :-)   

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Subject: Re: UNIX (USS)

In <1313724342.26780.yahoomail...@web65513.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, on
08/18/2011
   at 08:25 PM, Scott Ford  said:

>I run WIN 7, x64 bit . 4 CPUS, 16mb with many VMs with virtual box ,
>no problems no complains , works like a champ

Yes, but the issue is package managers, not processor support. SMP is
another of those overloaded abbreviations, and in this context is a
program.
 
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Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1313724342.26780.yahoomail...@web65513.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, on
08/18/2011
   at 08:25 PM, Scott Ford  said:

>I run WIN 7, x64 bit . 4 CPUS, 16mb with many VMs with virtual box ,
>no problems no complains , works like a champ

Yes, but the issue is package managers, not processor support. SMP is
another of those overloaded abbreviations, and in this context is a
program.
 
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Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
,
on 08/18/2011
   at 04:51 PM, Mike Schwab  said:

>How about writing tools for z/Unix, z/Linux, Linux, Cygwin on
>Windows?

That would be nice, but I'd settle for just Linux.
 
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Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-19 Thread John Eells

Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:


With accompanying copy utilities. For load libraries IEBCOPY now knows
how to reblock, even though long ago in a galaxy far away it didn't.



Wow.  How long ago was *that*?

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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Ma'am,

Regardless of OPERATOR PROMPT/NOPROMPT setting, default 
STPMODE is YES so he will get the IEA888A.

Why not T CLOCK ... maybe because his time zone is UTC ??
or he's setting a time outside of the twelve hour GMT 
window ??.   

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:50 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem

> Hi listers,
> 
> I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to change the
local
> and UTC/GMT hour.
> 
> Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
> 
> * 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
>   IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
TIME
> 
> I reply with
> 
> R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
> 
> Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the
> time:
> 
> R 00,U
> 
> and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
> 
> * 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
>   IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
TIME
> 
> Please, help!
>


A couple of questions.

1)  What does your CLOCKxx member state?
2)  What is your hardware clock set at?
3)  Why IPL when you can use a SET CLOCK command?

Lizette

> 

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Re: Get a user password from RACF.

2011-08-19 Thread John Eells

Rick Fochtman wrote:

--


Hi all ,

In my previous shop we add TSS instead of RACF . I remember we had a
way to
get a user password but I’m not really familiar what was the background
process.

Is somebody familiar with a method to get a user password when using
RACF ?

I assume RACF DB is holding the DB in hash base on a one way function
, but
I'll also expect that TSS will do the same .

if it truly so , I’ll be interesting on HOW could my previous shop bypass
the basic security (maybe using Exit to insert the password to protected
dataset before the HASH) I’ll expect from a security product to allow
only
reset of the password and not reviewing of the user password .





In a previous incarnation of RACF, it was possible, under some
circumstances, to acquire the user's password from the RACF database.
This hole has been closed for a long time now. The password in the
database is encrypted using a one-way trap-door function. It could
probably be decrypted, if you've got enough computer time to spare, but
I suspect that it would be changed long before it could be decrypted.




As Walt posted earlier, there is a password enveloping function that can 
be used make passwords retrievable.  You can read about it here:


http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ichza7b0/22.1?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0K&DT=20100614190745

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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <07cd01cc5e46$fd962920$f8c27b60$@us>, on 08/19/2011
   at 03:07 AM, Jim Thomas  said:

>Firstly, in the mainframe world, even employees that were  fired ..
>as mad as they could be, are too professional to  try petty tactics

While I've never encounterred sabotage by an ex employee, I would
notrely on that for security purposes.

>for two .. one of the first things and I think this has inherently 
>happened for decades, that happens is that the ex-employees' 
>network and mainframe id's are either suspended or revoked.

Sometimes. And sometimes the employer wants to be able to ask
questions after termination. Unless the employee has an eidetic
memory, he'll need access to answer the questions.
 
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Then I only change the local hour, in this case system don't issues
IEA903A message.

I have tried and this is the result:


* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
 IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME



2011/8/19 Jim Thomas 

> >I reply with
>
> >R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
>
> >Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the
> >time:
>
> >R 00,U
>
> >and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
>
> >* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME
>
> >Please, help!
>
>
> Re-try without 'UTC' at the end of your reply.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir,

Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?. 

Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would 
not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE
to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP.

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Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
 wrote:

:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to change the
:>local and UTC/GMT hour.

:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply

:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
TIME

:>I reply with

:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC

:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the
:>time:

:>R 00,U

:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change

:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
TIME

There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.

How does the STP affect this?

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Re: PDS(E) "invalid" membernames give suprising behaviour in ISPF Data Set List Utility (BROWSE)

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
,
on 08/19/2011
   at 08:15 AM, "Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)"
 said:

>May be a shot into the dark, but what if the the first member
>looks like it was a PDS.

That makes no sense; there is no DSCB in a directory entry.

>What if it writes blocks looking like a PDS directory followed by 
>a member data block.

Then BROWSE will display those blocks as the contents of the member.
How the user will interpret them is anybody's guess.

>I do not know how ISPF's "B"rowse option decides whether the data is
>a PDS or a sequentual data set and whether it can be fooled. 

DSORG=PO. No.
 
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
>I reply with

>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC

>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the
>time:

>R 00,U

>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change

>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME

>Please, help!


Re-try without 'UTC' at the end of your reply. 



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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
The system is z/OS V1R11 under zPDT at Red Hat Linux, logically, I don't
have STP.

The CLOCK member it's at one of my PARMLIB's libraries configuration and is
like follows:

OPERATOR PROMPT
TIMEZONE E.02.00.00
ETRMODE  NO
ETRZONE  NO
ETRDELTA 10
STPMODE  NO
STPZONE  NO

I can change my local hour by CLOCK command but the change is for resolving
a NJE communications proble with a real mainframe ( the hour of the z/OS at
Linux is incorrect ) and I must do IPL so when JES2 starts the hour must be
correct.

I can change local hour without specifying UTC/GMT the UTC hour not, I don't
understand what's going on because I only have to specify the new hour and
confiirm whe the time arrives.


Thanks to all.

2011/8/19 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 

> In
> ,
> on 08/19/2011
>   at 01:25 PM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez  said:
>
> >and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
>
> Was TOD update enabled?
>
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Re: HLASM Manuals

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <201108190905.p7j95yaq028...@ame8.swcp.com>, on 08/19/2011
   at 05:04 AM, David Cole  said:

>John, Thanks for asking...

It looks like he asked on the news group; the message hasn't appeared
on the list. John, could you post it here? Thanks.

>and the examples are classically awful.

Would it be better to put the examples in the programmer's Guide? I
don't believe that lengthy examples belong in the reference manuals,
but I agree that they would be useful.

>And it needs to be usability tested along the way by an audience 
>of people who do not already know  the language inside and out

That should include testing the usability of the navigation data,
e.g., TOC, index.
 
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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
,
on 08/19/2011
   at 01:25 PM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez  said:

>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change

Was TOD update enabled?
 
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Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 08/19/2011
   at 12:30 AM, "Robert A. Rosenberg"  said:

>If you use QSAM (as opposed to BSAM) you would not have access to 
>this information and I do not think QSAM is smart enough to monitor 
>the track balance and write short blocks to fill up the track for VB 
>and FB records - I think it is for VBS and I know it only writes 
>BLKSIZE-only records for FBS except at close where it flushes out the
> short partial block

Neither BSAM nor QSAM will automatically truncate blocks to fit the
remaining track capacity.
 
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Re: Get a user password from RACF.

2011-08-19 Thread Chicklon, Thomas
A little Friday fun...

We all know what the decrypted password is in a RACF database - it's the
user ID! 

The trick it to determine the key used to encrypt it in the first
place...

Tom Chicklon


-Original Message-

 It could 
probably be decrypted, if you've got enough computer time to spare, but 
I suspect that it would be changed long before it could be decrypted.

Rick

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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez
 wrote:

:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to change the
:>local and UTC/GMT hour.

:>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply

:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME

:>I reply with

:>R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC

:>Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the
:>time:

:>R 00,U

:>and then appears again the CLOCK without my change

:>* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
:>  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME

There used to be a switch to allow the TOD to be altered.

How does the STP affect this?

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Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
> Hi listers,
> 
> I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to change the
local
> and UTC/GMT hour.
> 
> Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply
> 
> * 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
>   IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
TIME
> 
> I reply with
> 
> R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC
> 
> Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the
> time:
> 
> R 00,U
> 
> and then appears again the CLOCK without my change
> 
> * 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
>   IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL
TIME
> 
> Please, help!
>


A couple of questions.

1)  What does your CLOCKxx member state?
2)  What is your hardware clock set at?
3)  Why IPL when you can use a SET CLOCK command?

Lizette

> 

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Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <7568069456759148.wa.steve.doverccbcc@bama.ua.edu>, on
08/17/2011
   at 08:16 AM, Steve Dover  said:

>Phil, we had one at Allstate Insurance until 1990.  2540
>reader/punch.  I sure miss the chads, they were great fun in desks
>and cars.

I used to think so, until I learned that they could cause eye
injuries.
 
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Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
<1240651948-1313637071-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-95694995-@b12.c1.bise6.blackberry>,
on 08/18/2011
   at 03:11 AM, Ted MacNEIL  said:

>I thought there was a minimum of 18 bytes for LRECL.

No.

CIG
 
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Re: Rockets in Ashdod, very near to my home, yesterday and today.

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir,

I'm glad to hear you are well ... please take care and
stay safe.


Kind Regards

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Subject: Rockets in Ashdod, very near to my home, yesterday and today.

Many Rockets fire from Gaza to Ashdod, near my home, yesterday and today.
30-45 seconds from the start of the siren to the explosion.
If you outside with your car, continue to drive.
You do not have enough time to look for a shelter. If you stop the car and
run, your chances are the same as if you continue to drive.
If you are in home, search for room with some protection or go to the stairs
room.
After the first explosion wait few seconds, maybe more than one rockets were
fired.
Today few people in Ashdod were injured from the rockets.
Ashdod is beautiful city and never boring city...

These rockets are fired without specific target.
The target is the people, any people are good target for these people. Just
pull the trigger and hide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AYjcDI1gdA&feature=player_embedded

Shai

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CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Hi listers,

I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to  OPERATOR PROMPT to change the
local and UTC/GMT hour.

Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply

* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME

I reply with

R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC

Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the
time:

R 00,U

and then appears again the CLOCK without my change

* 00  IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00
  IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME

Please, help!




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Re: SV: PDS(E) "invalid" membernames give suprising behaviour in ISPF Data Set List Utility (BROWSE)

2011-08-19 Thread Steve Comstock

On 8/19/2011 3:03 AM, Thomas Berg wrote:

A related question: Where can I find documentation about member names in PDSE (and PDS), 
I mean about technical limitations besides the formal rules that is implemented by the 
"standard" programs ?



Regards,
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Look at z/OS V1Rnn DFSMS Using Data Sets

For PDS:

Chapter 26; especially the section titled
"Creating Nonstandard PDS Member Names"


For PDSE:

Chapter 27; the sections "PDSE and PDS Differences"
and "Creating Nonstandard PDSE Member Names"




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Re: Get a user password from RACF.

2011-08-19 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:56:39 +0300, Matan Cohen  wrote:

>actually there isn't any problem .
>I wanted to know a user password instead of changing it and I remembered
>that in my previously shop this was a something I was doing regularly .  So
> I just started interesting in how this was available to me in the past and
>if it still available to me in RACF .
>Security is always interesting for me.
>
Would you mind telling us which bank you are trying to hack?

Jantje.

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Re: Assembler with ISPF Presentation

2011-08-19 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Which Aetna mods would those be?

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Subject: Re: Assembler with ISPF Presentation

I haven't looked in awhile. The Aetna mods had an ISPCALL macro that was pretty 
spiffy. Mike Loos at Deluxe Check made it gooder, but don't remember if it 
survived the 8100 conversion. Anyways, after I made my SHARE trip  report to 
middle management, got a call in about six weeks. 'Could I come  certify the 
new MICR system with ISPF?' Sure enough they'd taken the ISPCALL  macro and 
whipped it into shape to drive the check sorters. 
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2011 12:52:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
jim.marsh...@opm.gov writes:

So with  a bit of coding I changed them over to make use the ISPF modules 
dynamically  and life was good. 
All this work can be found on the www.cbttape.org in my  files (try 161).  



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Rockets in Ashdod, very near to my home, yesterday and today.

2011-08-19 Thread shai hess
Many Rockets fire from Gaza to Ashdod, near my home, yesterday and today.
30-45 seconds from the start of the siren to the explosion.
If you outside with your car, continue to drive.
You do not have enough time to look for a shelter. If you stop the car and
run, your chances are the same as if you continue to drive.
If you are in home, search for room with some protection or go to the stairs
room.
After the first explosion wait few seconds, maybe more than one rockets were
fired.
Today few people in Ashdod were injured from the rockets.
Ashdod is beautiful city and never boring city...

These rockets are fired without specific target.
The target is the people, any people are good target for these people. Just
pull the trigger and hide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AYjcDI1gdA&feature=player_embedded

Shai

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SV: PDS(E) "invalid" membernames give suprising behaviour in ISPF Data Set List Utility (BROWSE)

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Berg
To answer my own question, from DFSMS Using Data Sets:

3.8.6.1.1 Creating Nonstandard PDSE Member Names

The preceding topic described a method for creating a member in a PDSE where 
the member name is specified on the JCL DD statement. Only member names 
consisting of characters from a specific character set may be specified in JCL. 
Please refer to the book z/OS MVS JCL Reference, section "Character Sets" for a 
complete description of the supported character set. If your application has a 
need to create member names with characters outside the character set supported 
by JCL you should either use BPAM and issue your own STOW macro, or use BSAM or 
QSAM while following this procedure (see Figure 132 for an example):

   1. Code DSORG=PS or DSORG=PSU in the DCB macro.

   2. In the DD statement specify the name of the PDSE where the member is to 
be created, that is, DSNAME=dsname. Code other parameters as appropriate.

   3. In your program issue an RDJFCB macro to obtain a copy of the JFCB 
control block, this represents your JCL DD statement. The RDJFCB macro is 
described in z/OS DFSMSdfp Advanced Services.

   4. You can update JFCBELNM with member name consisting of characters that 
are not limited to those which can be specified in JCL. The member name cannot 
consist of bytes that all are X'FF'.

   5. Process the member with an OPEN TYPE=J macro, a series of PUT or WRITE 
macros, and the CLOSE macro. The system issues a STOW macro when the data set 
is closed.

  Note: If the member name specified in JFCBELNM begins with '+' (X'4E'), 
'-' (X'60'), or X'Fx', the system does not issue the STOW macro. CLOSE will 
interpret '+' (X'4E'), '-' (X'60'), or X'Fx' in JFCBELNM as an indication that 
the data set is a generation data set (GDS) of a generation data group (GDG).


//PDSDD DD ---,DSNAME=MASTFILE,SPACE=(TRK,(100,5,7)), 
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80)--- 
... 
RDJFCB (OUTDCB) 
... 
MVC JFCBELNM,NAME 
... 
OPEN (OUTDCB,(OUTPUT)),TYPE=J 
... 
PUT OUTDCB,OUTAREA Write record to member 
... 
CLOSE (OUTDCB) Automatic STOW 
... 
OUTAREA DS CL80 Area to write from 
OUTDCB DCB ---,DSORG=PS,DDNAME=PDSDD,MACRF=PM 
NAME DC XL8'0123456789ABCDEF'

Figure 132. Creating A Nonstandard member name in a PDSE

If the preceding conditions are true but you code DSORG=PO (to use BPAM) and 
your last operation on the DCB before CLOSE is a STOW macro, CLOSE does not 
issue the STOW macro.


 
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> rules that is implemented by the "standard" programs ?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: HLASM Manuals

2011-08-19 Thread David Cole

John, Thanks for asking...

How to improve the Assembler manuals? Well, one thing that comes 
leaping to mind: WRT the Reference, I would really love it if you 
would put individual build-in functions in the TOC. You do this for 
Assembler statements and even system variables... Why not for 
built-in functions as well. (This is something that has irked me for DECADES!)




But more than that...

Over all I think the Assembler Reference is very poorly organized. It 
is hard to find things within. It is hard to understand the 
implications of described functionality. The descriptions are laconic 
(to say the least), and the examples are classically awful. They 
cover only the fewest and the simplest, most obvious cases; they fail 
to illustrate useful ranges of capabilities.


I love Assembler. I've been programming in it for nearly 50 years. I 
cannot say the same for the Reference. In the entire time I've been 
programming Assembler, the organization and structure of the 
Reference has not changed one iota! Yes, new functionality has been 
added, but I don't think that more than a handful of words of the 
original text has been changed since the 1960s!


IMO, the Reference basically needs to be thrown out and rewritten 
from scratch with totally fresh eyes. And it needs to be usability 
tested along the way by an audience of people who do not already know 
the language inside and out (or by those who can at least think that way).


I hear all the time that "Assembler is hard". It is not hard. C is 
hard; Assembler is easy. It's just the manual that is hard.


I also hear grumbles that IBM manuals in general are hard. I do not 
agree. Many of them have improved quite a lot in recent decades. But 
not the Assembler Reference. It remains mired in its initial design, 
and for whatever reason, it has escaped a competent rewrite.


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At 8/18/2011 07:00 PM, John Ehrman wrote:

On June 6, John Walker noted that IBM manuals don't make it easy to find
information you need.

If you have suggestions for improving the HLASM manuals, please let me
know, either on or off this list.

Thanks for your help.

John Ehrman,  ehr...@us.ibm.com


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SV: PDS(E) "invalid" membernames give suprising behaviour in ISPF Data Set List Utility (BROWSE)

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Berg
A related question: Where can I find documentation about member names in PDSE 
(and PDS), I mean about technical limitations besides the formal rules that is 
implemented by the "standard" programs ? 


 
Regards, 
Thomas Berg 
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Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Folks,

Why does everybody insist on overlooking the obvious ??. 

The hell with how quickly you apply fixes. 

MVS (or OS/390 or z/OS or whatever you want to call it) has
NEVER been hacked or destroyed by an ex employee !!. 

In fact, let me re-state that .. the mainframes HAVE NEVER 
been hacked or destroyed by an ex employee !!. 

Firstly, in the mainframe world, even employees that were 
fired .. as mad as they could be, are too professional to 
try petty tactics ... for two .. one of the first things and I 
think this has inherently happened for decades, that happens
is that the ex-employees' network and mainframe id's are either
suspended or revoked. Either way, they lose immediate access to 
the company network and the mainframe. 

In fact, if the 'ex' was a vendor or ISV, aside from having their
id's and network access revoked, if logged on, they are forced off
the system/network.   

For at least the past three decades, I've constantly heard about virus',
and ex-employee tactics or whatever have you and the only environment
that has EVER been affected is the PC environment and more specifically,
the WinBlows environment. 

That said, I do fully admit that the PC's are good for what they were 
engineered to be .. a PERSONAL computer, NOT a BUSINESS computer !!. 


Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Clark Morris
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:12 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Security is fun in the PC world

On 18 Aug 2011 14:00:39 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>-
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>This person had a user-id and password with privileges. Think of the 
>harm someone with a system programmers id and privileges can do. For 
>those of you who have been at a number of shops, how many were really 
>careful about ids and their revocation. Most of the ones I was at were 
>and I am not certain about the others. The problem was the security 
>culture and I guarantee you that not all mainframe shops are really good 
>about it.
>---

>In my last shop, the head of security administration (one of my many 
>hats) had to be informed BEFORE the person being terminated. Id he/she 
>was logged on, I was to revoke the userid and if logged on, cancel the 
>session. The person being terminated was escorted off the premises and 
>could make arrangements to clean out personnal property at a later date.
>
>-
---
>I also would almost guarantee you there are a number of Unix and Windows 
>shops that take it very seriously.
>---
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>Then why in God's name are they running Windoze and/or UNIX??
>
>-
---
>How quickly do mainframe shops apply the PTF's for integrity APARs? How 
>quickly do the other environments apply the comparable fixes?
>---

>For our MVS-OS/390-z/OS environment(s), we always let PTF's age for 30 
>days, partly to let someone else debug them and partly to evaluate their 
>impact in our shop. Then we decided whether to apply or not. For the 
>Windoze and UNIX weenies, I can't say.


Which means you leave the security hole fixed by the integrity APAR
open for 30 days.  In at least some Windows and Unix shops, the
comparable fixes get a higher priority.
>
>Rick
>

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SV: PDS(E) "invalid" membernames give suprising behaviour in ISPF Data Set List Utility (BROWSE)

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Berg
As the dataset is a PDS(E), how can You analyze it ?  As I understand, the 
internal structure of PDS(E) is more or less a secret.  (?) 
And as I can read these members through my program without problems - combined 
with the (assumed by me) fact that PDS(E)s structure should be completely 
independent of the data, I'm leaning towards a "bug" in the ISPF 
BROWSE/VIEW/EDIT function. 
Has anyone experienced anything similar ?


 
Regards, 
Thomas Berg 
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> Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
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> Ämne: Re: PDS(E) "invalid" membernames give suprising behaviour in ISPF
> Data Set List Utility (BROWSE)
> 
> May be a shot into the dark, but what if the the first member
> looks like it was a PDS. You surely can't nest PDSs off the shelf.
> But you said the program was playing around. What if it writes
> blocks looking like a PDS directory followed by a member data block.
> 
> I do not know how ISPF's "B"rowse option decides whether the data
> is a PDS or a sequentual data set and whether it can be fooled.
> 
> Try to dump the dataset and analyse its content.
> 
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SYS1.VOLCAT.* and RACF

2011-08-19 Thread MONTERO ROMERO, ENRIQUE ELOI
Hi,

Hope all you are well.

We are implementing the volcat's, i mean, the volume catalog for robotics.
The volcat has these names "SYS1.VOLCAT.VGENERAL and SYS1.VOLCAT.Vn".

The question is related to RACF definitions to backup or use these volcats by 
users, groups or stc's.

We are testing with this RACF definition

SYS1.VOLCAT.* (G)
UACC(READ)

And 

GRP01   ALTER 
GRP02   ALTER 
USR01   ALTER
STC01   ALTER

Question : must we use UACC(READ) or can we use UACC(NONE) ?
   Why use UACC(READ) instead of UACC(NONE) ?


Best regards, 
 
Enrique Montero

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