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IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Jim McAlpine

Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.

Jim McAlpine

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IBM announcements

2008-04-08 Thread Steve Comstock


The weekly IBM announcement letters are out. One that
caught my eye:

IBM System Services Runtime Environment for z/OS V1.1

From the description it looks like it might be a
non-WebSphere version of Apache / Tomcat for z/OS.
(Wouldn't that be a kick?) It's a no charge item,
but requires z/OS 1.9.

But I find the announcement kind of vague and "mushy".
Can anybody describe this product more clearly?



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IBM Announcements

2005-10-25 Thread Steve Comstock


OK, so where do you go these days to find the
current week's announcements?

I used to have link that would take me directly
to the latest list of announcments. It has
stopped working.

I went to IBMLink and got: " The My IBMLink page that you have requested 
has been removed. We have replaced it with links on the IBM Support & 
downloads  and IBM PartnerWorld web pages."


I followed the links to the IBM Support page and IBM PartnerWorld
page. The only announcements are either PartnerWorld developers
announcements or old zSeries announcements.

There used to be a summary page published each Tuesday
with a list of product announcments for that week. I
cannot seem to find such a list anymore. So where do
folks go these days to keep up with the announcement
stream?

Kind regards,

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IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Richards.Bob

Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

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IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal


http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.jsp?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/8/897/ENUS111-078/index.html&breadCrum=DET001PT022&url=buttonpressed=DET001PT116&page=1000&paneltext1=DET001PEF011&user+type=EXT&lang=en_US&InfoType=AN&InfoSubType=CA&InfoDesc=Announcement+Letters&panelurl=index.wss%3Fbuttonpressed%3DDET001PT116%26page%3D1000%26paneltext1%3DDET001PEF011%26user%2Btype%3DEXT&paneltext=Announcement%20letter%20search

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IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Craig Dudley

Hi,
I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:

<http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss>

using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.

This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8 
browser running in my Parallels Windows session.

Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac browsers?

BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback but 
that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into the 
Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit for 
the box. This is using IE 8.
Thanks

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Steve Comstock


Jim McAlpine wrote:

Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.

Jim McAlpine


Try this:

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss


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Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Jim McAlpine

On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim McAlpine wrote:
> > Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.
> >
> > Jim McAlpine
>
> Try this:
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> -Steve Comstock
> The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

Thanks for the link.  However it's not very friendly or I'm just too stupid
to find what I want.  I'm after the specific announcement letter that
details the end of service for the 3490E model F01 which happened in 2007.
All I get are some very old announcement letters.

Jim McAlpine

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Steve Comstock


Jim McAlpine wrote:

On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Jim McAlpine wrote:


Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.

Jim McAlpine


Try this:

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss


Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.




Thanks for the link.  However it's not very friendly or I'm just too stupid
to find what I want.  I'm after the specific announcement letter that
details the end of service for the 3490E model F01 which happened in 2007.
All I get are some very old announcement letters.

Jim McAlpine


Did you just click on the Go button for
"Jump to most recent announcement letters"?

Or did you type in 3490 in the Keywords search box
and click Go? I got:

End of service: Machine Type 3490, selected models
announcement letter 907-503 dated 03-27-2007 as the
second entry in the resulting list. It says that
model is discontinued from maintenance beginning
June 30, 2007.

Hope this helps.


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Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Pommier, Rex R.

It's announcement letter 907-053 dated March 27, 2007.  

After a bit of trial-and-error on that page, I hit the advanced search
button, kept the search type of announcement letter, set a date range of
2006-2008, and user 3490* as my product number.  I got a reasonable 8
hits to my search and was lucky enough to get the right one on top! 

Rex  

-Original Message-

On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim McAlpine wrote:
> > Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.
> >
> > Jim McAlpine
>
> Try this:
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> -Steve Comstock
> The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

Thanks for the link.  However it's not very friendly or I'm just too
stupid to find what I want.  I'm after the specific announcement letter
that details the end of service for the 3490E model F01 which happened
in 2007.
All I get are some very old announcement letters.

Jim McAlpine

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Pommier, Rex R.

Sorry, Steve.  I didn't see your reply until after I had hit "send" on
mine.

Rex  

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Jim McAlpine wrote:
> On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Jim McAlpine wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.
>>>
>>>Jim McAlpine
>>
>>Try this:
>>
>>http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss
>>
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>-Steve Comstock
>>The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the link.  However it's not very friendly or I'm just too 
> stupid to find what I want.  I'm after the specific announcement 
> letter that details the end of service for the 3490E model F01 which
happened in 2007.
> All I get are some very old announcement letters.
> 
> Jim McAlpine

Did you just click on the Go button for
"Jump to most recent announcement letters"?

Or did you type in 3490 in the Keywords search box and click Go? I got:

End of service: Machine Type 3490, selected models announcement letter
907-503 dated 03-27-2007 as the second entry in the resulting list. It
says that model is discontinued from maintenance beginning June 30,
2007.

Hope this helps.


Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
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303-393-8716
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Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Jim McAlpine

On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Did you just click on the Go button for
> "Jump to most recent announcement letters"?
>
> Or did you type in 3490 in the Keywords search box
> and click Go? I got:
>
> End of service: Machine Type 3490, selected models
> announcement letter 907-503 dated 03-27-2007 as the
> second entry in the resulting list. It says that
> model is discontinued from maintenance beginning
> June 30, 2007.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> -Steve Comstock
> The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
>
> 303-393-8716
> http://www.trainersfriend.com


Steve, many thanks.  I was actually being too specific by using a search
argument of 3490e as opposed to 3490.

Thanks again

Jim McAlpine

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-08 Thread Glenn Miller

Hi Steve,

I had the same thought when I read that IBM announcement letter.  When I 
read the IBM announcement letter: 208-076, that product IBM System 
Services Runtime Environment for z/OS seems to fit.  We don't have that IBM 
TPC for z/OS product.

Glenn Miller

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-08 Thread Walt Farrell

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:50:01 -0600, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>The weekly IBM announcement letters are out. One that
>caught my eye:
>
>IBM System Services Runtime Environment for z/OS V1.1
>
> From the description it looks like it might be a
>non-WebSphere version of Apache / Tomcat for z/OS.
>(Wouldn't that be a kick?) It's a no charge item,
>but requires z/OS 1.9.
>
>But I find the announcement kind of vague and "mushy".
>Can anybody describe this product more clearly?

Think of it as a no-charge, simplified, web services provider that we're
making available for z/OS customers to allow them to run specific IBM
software packages of our choice (and nothing else) that need a web services
environment.

As the announcement says, it's customized to allow simple installation and
configuration for select system-level, no-charge applications, and helps
reduce the cost and skills needed to install and run those applications.

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-08 Thread Walt Farrell

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:41:15 -0600, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


>So I couldn't write my own code / HTML and use this product
>to run a web site for a corporate intranet or the public internet?
>It only works with IBM-supplied or IBM-blessed applications?
>

That's what the announcement says.  And that's how I understand it to work.

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-08 Thread Ken Porowski

 Does this mean that things like ServerPac dialogs are going the way of
the web?

-Original Message-
Walt Farrell

Steve Comstock
>The weekly IBM announcement letters are out. One that caught my eye:
>
>IBM System Services Runtime Environment for z/OS V1.1
>
> From the description it looks like it might be a non-WebSphere version

>of Apache / Tomcat for z/OS.
>(Wouldn't that be a kick?) It's a no charge item, but requires z/OS 
>1.9.

Think of it as a no-charge, simplified, web services provider that we're
making available for z/OS customers to allow them to run specific IBM
software packages of our choice (and nothing else) that need a web
services environment.

As the announcement says, it's customized to allow simple installation
and configuration for select system-level, no-charge applications, and
helps reduce the cost and skills needed to install and run those
applications.

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-08 Thread Steve Comstock


Walt Farrell wrote:

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:50:01 -0600, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


The weekly IBM announcement letters are out. One that
caught my eye:

IBM System Services Runtime Environment for z/OS V1.1

From the description it looks like it might be a
non-WebSphere version of Apache / Tomcat for z/OS.
(Wouldn't that be a kick?) It's a no charge item,
but requires z/OS 1.9.

But I find the announcement kind of vague and "mushy".
Can anybody describe this product more clearly?


Think of it as a no-charge, simplified, web services provider that we're
making available for z/OS customers to allow them to run specific IBM
software packages of our choice (and nothing else) that need a web services
environment.

As the announcement says, it's customized to allow simple installation and
configuration for select system-level, no-charge applications, and helps
reduce the cost and skills needed to install and run those applications.



So I couldn't write my own code / HTML and use this product
to run a web site for a corporate intranet or the public internet?
It only works with IBM-supplied or IBM-blessed applications?


Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

303-393-8716
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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-08 Thread Shane

On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 15:52 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote:

> Does this mean that things like ServerPac dialogs are going the way of
> the web?

Gawd I hope not.
It took about 6 years to get Link2000 to the AP region. And how many
complaints about the (web) IBMLink have there been in the last couple of
years ???.
Ugh.

Shane ...

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-09 Thread Ken Porowski

I was thinking more along the lines of a local (z/OS based web)
interface instead of the current ISPF dialogs.

Ken 

-Original Message-
Shane

Ken Porowski wrote:
> Does this mean that things like ServerPac dialogs are going the way of

> the web?

Gawd I hope not.
It took about 6 years to get Link2000 to the AP region. And how many
complaints about the (web) IBMLink have there been in the last couple of
years ???.
Ugh.

Shane ...

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-09 Thread Steve Comstock


Ken Porowski wrote:

I was thinking more along the lines of a local (z/OS based web)
interface instead of the current ISPF dialogs.

Ken 


Exactly!



-Original Message-
Shane

Ken Porowski wrote:

Does this mean that things like ServerPac dialogs are going the way of



the web?


Gawd I hope not.
It took about 6 years to get Link2000 to the AP region. And how many
complaints about the (web) IBMLink have there been in the last couple of
years ???.
Ugh.

Shane ...



Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-09 Thread Shane

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:09 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote:

> I was thinking more along the lines of a local (z/OS based web)
> interface instead of the current ISPF dialogs.

A poorly designed (web) interface is a poorly designed interface.
What gives you faith it will be any better designed just because it
remains within a LAN ???.
My sceptosity level remains elevated until disproved.

Shane ...

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-09 Thread Ken Porowski

 I never said it would be better, I was just wondering if that was going
to be the direction for what used to be done in ISPF dialogs.  Things
like ServerPac, Health Checker, Omegamon installer.

If history serves as any lesson, most attempts at any type of
installation dialog usually fails (CA-AGGRAVATOR anyone?) as well as
most other OEM installers.  Give me an install lib and a list of jobs to
run and I'll be just fine thank you.  The exception at this point
appears to be the ServerPac dialogs which actually appear to work nicely
and properly the way they are.  Altering them to use a web interface may
work but why bother?

Ken

-Original Message-
Shane

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:09 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote:

> I was thinking more along the lines of a local (z/OS based web) 
> interface instead of the current ISPF dialogs.

A poorly designed (web) interface is a poorly designed interface.
What gives you faith it will be any better designed just because it
remains within a LAN ???.
My sceptosity level remains elevated until disproved.

Shane ...

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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 04/09/2008
   at 10:09 AM, Ken Porowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I was thinking more along the lines of a local (z/OS based web) interface
>instead of the current ISPF dialogs.

I'm sure that Shane was as well, and that he is concerned about the track
record of such replacement interfaces. I believe that he is right to be
concerned.
 
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Re: IBM announcements

2008-04-10 Thread Arthur Gutowski

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:59:03 -0400, Ken Porowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>If history serves as any lesson, most attempts at any type of
>installation dialog usually fails (CA-AGGRAVATOR anyone?) as well as
>most other OEM installers.  Give me an install lib and a list of jobs to
>run and I'll be just fine thank you.  The exception at this point
>appears to be the ServerPac dialogs which actually appear to work nicely
>and properly the way they are.  

  Since SMP/E is required to do any z/OS installation and maintenance, 
and ServerPac Dialog is all but required, and CBPDO is relatively integrated 
into 
SMP/E... Is there any hope of IBM integrating the ServerPac application into 
SMP/E?  Is there any hope that ISV's will eventually figure out how to write 
their installation processes around ServerPac and not try to re-invent the 
wheel, failing miserably at that?  Since Candle is now IBM, those products are 
now ServerPac-capable, and I'm hoping there is little to no need of CICAT 
down the road.  But I don't think it takes an outright acquisition to converge 
tools - aren't many of these ISV's an IBM Development Partner? 

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company IT Infrastructure
zSeries Platform Planning, Build & Operations
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Re: IBM Announcements

2005-10-25 Thread Pommier, Rex R.

Sign up for IBM announcements at the following page:

http://www.ibm.com/isource

I believe it is the third screen of the sign-up where you can tell IBM
to e-mail you a summary of the announcements with each announcement as a
hyperlink.

Rex

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OK, so where do you go these days to find the
current week's announcements?

I used to have link that would take me directly
to the latest list of announcments. It has
stopped working.

I went to IBMLink and got: " The My IBMLink page that you have requested

has been removed. We have replaced it with links on the IBM Support & 
downloads  and IBM PartnerWorld web pages."

I followed the links to the IBM Support page and IBM PartnerWorld page.
The only announcements are either PartnerWorld developers announcements
or old zSeries announcements.

There used to be a summary page published each Tuesday
with a list of product announcments for that week. I
cannot seem to find such a list anymore. So where do
folks go these days to keep up with the announcement
stream?

Kind regards,

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Re: IBM Announcements

2005-10-25 Thread Steve Comstock


Pommier, Rex R. wrote:

Sign up for IBM announcements at the following page:

http://www.ibm.com/isource

I believe it is the third screen of the sign-up where you can tell IBM
to e-mail you a summary of the announcements with each announcement as a
hyperlink.

Rex


I'm already subscribed. But I went back and
looked at my profile and I wasn't using it
best. Now it should be OK. Thanks.

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Re: IBM Announcements

2005-10-25 Thread Bruce Black


or go to IBM Offering Info
http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/OIAccess.wss
which includes anouncements, sales manual, and more

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Re: IBM Announcements

2005-10-25 Thread Steve Comstock


Bruce Black wrote:

or go to IBM Offering Info
http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/OIAccess.wss
which includes anouncements, sales manual, and more



Ah, good. I like that a little more than the iSource
approach.

Thanks.

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Re: IBM Announcements

2005-10-25 Thread Edward E. Jaffe


Steve Comstock wrote:


OK, so where do you go these days to find the
current week's announcements?



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Re: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Porowski, Ken

Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

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Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

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Re: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Richards.Bob

Ken,

I could not get that link to work either.

Bob 

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Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

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Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

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Re: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Porowski, Ken

www.ibm.com > News & Newsletters (bottom right) > Announcement letters (under 
related links)

Everything I see resolves to a www-306.ibm.com address


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Ken,

I could not get that link to work either.

Bob 

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Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

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Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
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It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

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Re: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Steve Comstock


Richards.Bob wrote:

Ken,

I could not get that link to work either.

Bob 


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Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

-Original Message-
Richards.Bob

Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I get 
"Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.





Hmm. try this; watch for wrap, of course.

Kind regards,

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http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/OIAccess.wss?buttonpressed=DET001PT8×tamp=99&DET001PGL002=DET001PEF011&us_hc_index=US&us_hpl_index=en&us_dl_index=en&appname=IBMLinkRedirect

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Re: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Richards.Bob

That way worked, but was a different format than I was used to, Thanks.

Bob 

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www.ibm.com > News & Newsletters (bottom right) > Announcement letters (under 
related links)

Everything I see resolves to a www-306.ibm.com address

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Ken,

I could not get that link to work either.

Bob 

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Here's what I use

http://tinyurl.com/don9f

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Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.

It has been this way for a few weeks, I think.

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Re: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Richards.Bob

Steve, 

I got *that far* before. It is when I click on an announcement on that page 
that the problem occurs.

Bob 

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> 
> The link I have brings up the first page and when I select an announcement, I 
> get "Page cannot be displayed" for a www6.  url.
>

Hmm. try this; watch for wrap, of course.

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Re: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Steve Comstock


Richards.Bob wrote:
Steve, 


I got *that far* before. It is when I click on an announcement on that page 
that the problem occurs.

Bob 



Huh. Strange, 'cause it works for me.

Oh well, I see you got your problem solved.

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Re: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Eric Chevalier

On 28 Jun 2005 06:01:45 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) wrote:

>Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

How about this link:

http://www.ibm.com/news/usalet/

It seems to get redirected to:


http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/apilite?infotype=an&infosubt=ca&lastdays=7&ctvwcode=us&hitlimit=200&appname=USN

but that second link does work for me.

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Re: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Richards.Bob

And it does for me too. I guess I'll retire the old way as BAD. 

Bob 

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On 28 Jun 2005 06:01:45 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) wrote:

>Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?

How about this link:

http://www.ibm.com/news/usalet/

It seems to get redirected to:

http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/apilite?infotype=an&infosubt=ca&lastdays=7&ctvwcode=us&hitlimit=200&appname=USN

but that second link does work for me. 

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Fw: IBM announcements

2005-06-28 Thread Bill Klein

There certainly may have been a problem earlier, but when I click on the
link

http://www.ibm.com/news/usalet/

It does redirect me to a site with today's announcements AND I can click on
any specific announcement and get to the requested announcement.

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> On 28 Jun 2005 06:01:45 -0700,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) wrote:
> 
> >Can someone reply with a link to the IBM Announcements - US letters?
> 
> How about this link:
> 
> http://www.ibm.com/news/usalet/
> 
> It seems to get redirected to:
> 
> 
>
http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/apilite?infotype=an&infosubt=ca&lastdays=7
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> but that second link does work for me.
> 
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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread Matthew Stitt

Read closely, don't just scan it.  Windows is being supported if you want to
run it on an x blade server.  It does not mean Windows will run on the z
server platform in any environment.

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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-04-12 14:23, Matthew Stitt pisze:

Read closely, don't just scan it. Windows is being supported if you want to
run it on an x blade server. It does not mean Windows will run on the z
server platform in any environment.

Well.
10 years ago it was also possible to install & run windows on xServer,
even in blade, even standing close to mainframe cabinet. Even connected
to the mainframe using dedicated link.

What's the value added?

ISAO (IBM Smart Analytic Optimizer) is probably first application
running on zBX. Couldn't it run on "loosely connected" powerBlades?
(To be more accurate: part ot ISAO runs on z/OS+DB2, part runs on power
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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread Shane Ginnane

Really ?.

The IBM zEnterprise System includes the zEnterprise 196 (z196), the
zEnterprise BladeCenter Extension (zBX) with its integrated optimizers and/or
select IBM blades, and the Unified Resource Manager (zManager).
.

Shane ...

On Tue, Apr 12th, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Matthew Stitt wrote:

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> to
> run it on an x blade server.  It does not mean Windows will run on the z
> server platform in any environment.

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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In <1302611570.4da4467279...@postoffice.tpg.com.au>, on 04/12/2011
   at 10:32 PM, Shane Ginnane  said:

>Really ?.

Yes.

>

Read it carefully. Note the distinction between "zEnterprise 196
(z196)" and "zEnterprise BladeCenter Extension (zBX)".
 
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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In <4da445df.6070...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 04/12/2011
   at 02:30 PM, "R.S."  said:

>What's the value added?

Management.
 
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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread Marian Gasparovic

> cabinet. Even connected  to the mainframe using dedicated link. What's the
> value added? ISAO (IBM Smart Analytic Optimizer) is probably first
> application  running on zBX. Couldn't it run on "loosely connected"
> powerBlades? (To be more accurate: part ot ISAO runs on z/OS+DB2, part runs
> on power  blades.) Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland  tej wiadomo ci mo e

ISAOPT runs on x blades, not Power. But they are not general purpose x
blades as announced today, they are part of a blackbox ISAOPT
solution.
Added value - management by zManager for virtual servers,
servicebility/waranty as for System z, integrated 10 Gbps network
managed from HMC, dedicated management network which handles also
firmware updates (blades are updated from HMC when CE comes with
MCLs).

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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-04-12 21:33, Marian Gasparovic pisze:

cabinet. Even connected to the mainframe using dedicated link. What's the
value added? ISAO (IBM Smart Analytic Optimizer) is probably first
application running on zBX. Couldn't it run on "loosely connected"
powerBlades? (To be more accurate: part ot ISAO runs on z/OS+DB2, part runs
on power blades.) Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland tej wiadomo ci mo e

ISAOPT runs on x blades, not Power. But they are not general purpose x
blades as announced today, they are part of a blackbox ISAOPT
solution.

So, IBM simply closed way for "independent vendor" blades. This is not a
reason, it is result of someone's decision.

Added value - management by zManager for virtual servers,
servicebility/waranty as for System z, integrated 10 Gbps network
managed from HMC, dedicated management network which handles also
firmware updates (blades are updated from HMC when CE comes with
MCLs).
Yes, management. What does it mean??? I can manage my blades without
using HMC. Yes, centralized management could be a value added, but it's
NOT crucial for the application. Couldn't ISAO live without such
management? I strongly doubt.

10Gbps OSA - available without zBX. In botH mainframe and PC.

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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread Shane

I'm well aware of the distinction.
The "zEnterprise System" may be composed of both. When they are managed
as one, they will come to be seen as "one".
At least that seems to be IBMs fervent wish.

Shane ...

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:54:29 -0400 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote:

> Read it carefully. Note the distinction between "zEnterprise 196
> (z196)" and "zEnterprise BladeCenter Extension (zBX)".

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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-12 Thread Marian Gasparovic

Radek,
with every integrated solution you can say you can buy individual
things and put them together. Of course. It is the controlling logic
that makes it integrated, in this case zManager.
Power blades in zBX - I don't think there are other than IBM Power
blades, IBM decided to support one kind of blade in three (IIRC)
possible configurations. And if you use a supported blade, it will
work because it was tested. When you plug the blade, its firmware will
be customized so that zManager can talk to it. You can buy the blade
from IBM or from BP.
x86 blades - I admit I have not studied the announcement yet, I assume
there will be again some set of blades which are supported, presumably
IBM blades. I don't know if you can mix IBM/HP/Dell/etc blades in one
bladecenter anywhere (please correct me if I am wrong). So when you
get bladecenter from one vendor you use its blades there.
ISAOPT - again, customized firmware, customized OS with application.
For ISAOPT purposes you really want to have a full control over
hardware, firmware, OS and application, it is a black box, you want
everything to work as expected, without deviations. (BTW, in these
days I am at customer implementing ISAOPT).

All hw (z196, blades, switches, bladecenters) firmware is updated from
one place, so when there are new MCLs you get them from IBM, from one
place. How many times you had problems that some
servers/switches/whatever were on old firmware and it was recognized
only when problem occurred ? Many distributed people ignore firmware
updates.

Marian Gasparovic
IBM Slovakia

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:22 PM, R.S.  wrote:
> W dniu 2011-04-12 21:33, Marian Gasparovic pisze: >> cabinet. Even connected
>  to the mainframe using dedicated link. What's the >> value added? ISAO (IBM
> Smart Analytic Optimizer) is probably first >> application  running on zBX.
> Couldn't it run on "loosely connected" >> powerBlades? (To be more accurate:
> part ot ISAO runs on z/OS+DB2, part runs >> on power  blades.) Radoslaw
> Skorupka Lodz, Poland  tej wiadomo ci mo e > ISAOPT runs on x blades, not
> Power. But they are not general purpose x > blades as announced today, they
> are part of a blackbox ISAOPT > solution. So, IBM simply closed way for
> "independent vendor" blades. This is not a  reason, it is result of
> someone's decision. > Added value - management by zManager for virtual
> servers, > servicebility/waranty as for System z, integrated 10 Gbps network
>> managed from HMC, dedicated management network which handles also >
> firmware updates (blades are updated from HMC when CE comes with > MCLs).
> Yes, management. What does it mean??? I can manage my blades without  using
> HMC. Yes, centralized management could be a value added, but it's  NOT
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Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-13 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-04-13 08:26, Marian Gasparovic pisze:
[...]

It is the controlling logic
that makes it integrated, in this case zManager.

It's still "managemnet for management". While centralized management is
fine, it's still not crucial for the applications to run. (see also end
of my post)

Power blades in zBX - I don't think there are other than IBM Power
blades, IBM decided to support one kind of blade in three (IIRC)
possible configurations. And if you use a supported blade, it will
work because it was tested.

It is not my intention to look for competitor vendors or manufacturers.
In this case single provider means single and consistent responsibility
for the solution it is important, but still not crucial for the
application.

[...]

I don't know if you can mix IBM/HP/Dell/etc blades in one
bladecenter anywhere (please correct me if I am wrong).

Marian, you should know it! ;-)
Obviously it is alway proprietary solution! HP blade does not fit the
Dell cabinet. Blades are incompatible in hardware meaning. (Of course
every Intel/AMD based blade is regular PC from OS point of view.)

All hw (z196, blades, switches, bladecenters) firmware is updated from
one place, so when there are new MCLs you get them from IBM, from one
place. How many times you had problems that some
servers/switches/whatever were on old firmware and it was recognized
only when problem occurred ? Many distributed people ignore firmware
updates.

And again: management. BTW: you mentioned switches. I think you mean
Ethernet switches, however that remains me another kind of switches used
in mainframe environment: FICON switches. IBM sells (but not produce)
such switches, they are supported for mainframe FICON applications.
Obviously such switches are very important piece of mainframe hardware.
Why IBM does not provide centralized management on HMC or MCL updates?
Why can't I have such switches "integrated with the system z"?
(Hint: System Automation is not applicable here. It is separately paid,
it is nt HMC based, it does not provide many features like MCL updates).

I see serious inconsistency here: zBX, ethernet switches are "centrally
managed", but not FICON switches. The only answer that comes to mind is:
it is political issue, not technical.

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Lodz, Poland

Re: IBM Announcements Today

2011-04-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In <4da4b490.7030...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 04/12/2011
   at 10:22 PM, "R.S."  said:

>So, IBM simply closed way for "independent vendor" blades.

No.

>What does it mean???

Management covers a multitude of sins. 

>Yes, centralized management could be a value added, but it's  NOT
>crucial for the application. 

Lots of things are not crucial for the application but still add
enough value to be worth the expense.

>Couldn't ISAO live without such management?

Il va sans dire. But that's not the relevant question.

>I strongly doubt.

No doubt, but that conveys no information.
 
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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Gates, Guy

Hi,

 I sent them an Email and got this reply...


Hello Guy Gates:

We are experiencing technical difficulties.  Work is underway to resolve
the problem as soon as possible.  We apologize for the inconvenience
this
has caused you.

Thank you for your interest in Announcement Letters.

The Global Announcements Team




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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: IBM Announcements URL

Hi,
I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:

<http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss>

using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.

This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8 
browser running in my Parallels Windows session.

Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac browsers?

BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback but 
that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into the

Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit
for 
the box. This is using IE 8.
Thanks

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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Chase, John

Works fine for me (Chicago area) using IE 8.

-jc-


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> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: IBM Announcements URL
> 
> Hi,
> I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:
> 
> <http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss>
> 
> using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
> getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.
> 
> This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8
> browser running in my Parallels Windows session.
> 
> Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac
browsers?
> 
> BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback
but
> that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into
the
> Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit
for
> the box. This is using IE 8.
> Thanks
> 
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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Cheryl Walker

The link work fine for me using Safari 5.0.2 on a Mac.

I also use this for z/OS - http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/news.html

Cheryl

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On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Craig Dudley wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:

<http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss>

using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.

This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8 
browser running in my Parallels Windows session.

Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac browsers?

BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback but 
that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into the 
Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit for 
the box. This is using IE 8.
Thanks

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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread Ed Gould

As of midnight central it is still not working on Safari.
Ed

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Gates, Guy  wrote:

From: Gates, Guy 
Subject: Re: IBM Announcements URL
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 1:49 PM

Hi,

 I sent them an Email and got this reply...

Hello Guy Gates:

We are experiencing technical difficulties.  Work is underway to resolve
the problem as soon as possible.  We apologize for the inconvenience
this
has caused you.

Thank you for your interest in Announcement Letters.

The Global Announcements Team

Thanks...Guy M. Gates Jr.
TTI Z/OS Systems Programmer II
Email: guy.ga...@ttiinc.com

                    "z/OS - World class computing."
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Craig Dudley
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: IBM Announcements URL

Hi,
I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:

<http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss>

using Firefox 3.6.10 or Safari 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.4 and am
getting a blank browser window. This problem just started last week.

This URL works on my Windows XP version of Firefox 3.6.10 and my IE 8 
browser running in my Parallels Windows session.

Does anyone else have a different URL I could try with my Mac browsers?

BTW, I tried to give feedback via the Offering Information Feedback but 
that web page is so broken it won't let me enter 200 characters into the

Message box even though the note indicate 500 characters is the limit
for 
the box. This is using IE 8.
Thanks

-- 
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New Ipswich, NH 03071-3922
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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-19 Thread shayne.al...@gmail.com

LOGOFF lists...@bama.ua.edu

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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-20 Thread Geoff Rousell

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:12:35 -0400, Cheryl Walker 
wrote:

>The link work fine for me using Safari 5.0.2 on a Mac.
>
>I also use this for z/OS - http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/news.html
>
>Cheryl
>
>==
>Cheryl Watson
>Watson & Walker, Inc.
>www.watsonwalker.com
>941-266-6609
>==
>
I'd comment that it's probably safer to "remember" IBM urls WITHOUT the
numeric suffix to the www. 

For addresses of the form www-.ibm.com/sitename, the  represents a
deployment location which may change over time. 

Geoff Rousell
Client Technical Specialist, System z
IBM 
geoff_rous...@uk.ibm.com

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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-20 Thread Ed Gould

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Craig Dudley  wrote:

From: Craig Dudley 
Subject: IBM Announcements URL
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 1:44 PM

Hi,
I am trying to access the IBM announcements web page at:

<http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss>

---SNIP-
I tried again this morning and got through with no issue. Try it again and see 
if it now works for you.
Ed




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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-20 Thread Chase, John

I'll try it with Firefox on Linux when I get home tonight.  IBM has been
pretty good about coding their web pages to be browser-agnostic.

-jc-


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> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> <http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss>
> 
> >---SNIP-
> >I tried again this morning and got through with no issue. Try it
again
> and see if it now works for you.
> 
> Still same problem with Safari 5.0.2 & Firefox 3.6.11 on Mac OS X
10.6.4.
> 
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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-26 Thread Craig Dudley

Hi John,

>I'll try it with Firefox on Linux when I get home tonight.  IBM has been
>pretty good about coding their web pages to be browser-agnostic.
>
Did you ever try this URL with Firefox on Linux?
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>-jc-
>
>
>> -Original Message-
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>Behalf Of Craig Dudley
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:27 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Fwd: Re: IBM Announcements URL
>> 
>> Hi Ed,
>> 
>> <http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss>
>> 
>> >---SNIP-
>> >I tried again this morning and got through with no issue. Try it
>again
>> and see if it now works for you.
>> 
>> Still same problem with Safari 5.0.2 & Firefox 3.6.11 on Mac OS X
>10.6.4.
>> 
>> --
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>> 244 Poor Farm Rd.
>> New Ipswich, NH 03071-3922
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Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-27 Thread Chase, John

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Craig Dudley
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> >I'll try it with Firefox on Linux when I get home tonight.  IBM has
been
> >pretty good about coding their web pages to be browser-agnostic.
> >
> Did you ever try this URL with Firefox on Linux?

Sorry; thought I had posted:

Yes (later the same day), and it worked fine.  Linux distro is Ubuntu
10.1, Firefox 3.6.10.

-jc-

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> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
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On
> >Behalf Of Craig Dudley
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> >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> >> Subject: Fwd: Re: IBM Announcements URL
> >>
> >> Hi Ed,
> >>
> >> <http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss>
> >>
> >> >---SNIP-
> >> >I tried again this morning and got through with no issue. Try it
> >again
> >> and see if it now works for you.
> >>
> >> Still same problem with Safari 5.0.2 & Firefox 3.6.11 on Mac OS X
> >10.6.4.
> >>
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Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-10 Thread Edward Jaffe


Arthur Gutowski wrote:
  Since SMP/E is required to do any z/OS installation and maintenance, 
and ServerPac Dialog is all but required, and CBPDO is relatively integrated into 
SMP/E... Is there any hope of IBM integrating the ServerPac application into 
SMP/E?  Is there any hope that ISV's will eventually figure out how to write 
their installation processes around ServerPac and not try to re-invent the 
wheel, failing miserably at that?  Since Candle is now IBM, those products are 
now ServerPac-capable, and I'm hoping there is little to no need of CICAT 
down the road.  But I don't think it takes an outright acquisition to converge 
tools - aren't many of these ISV's an IBM Development Partner? 
  


Art,

Yous premise that ServerPac is somehow exemplary might be your opinion 
and, from a usability standpoint, you might very well be right when 
objective comparisons are made against certain popular software products 
from certain vendors. But, I know of at least *one* ISV whose flagship 
product's install procedures are continually rated "excellent" by its 
customer base! I suspect there are other ISV products with similarly 
high customer satisfaction ratings as well.


Keep in mind that ServerPac is an SMP/E "bypass". It _restores_ SMP/E 
zones rather than installing into them. This might be OK for a complete 
reinstall of z/OS. But, I submit that this is *not* the preferred, 
optimal -- or even necessarily the "correct" -- way to add a product to 
an existing pre-configured system!


I understand, recognize, and agree with the desire for consistent 
install procedures for z/OS products. In fact, consistency across the 
enterprise is an even better long-term objective. How great would it be 
if you could install software on z/OS with the same ease as on other 
platforms?


I can tell you that *many* ISVs have *strongly* petitioned IBM to deploy 
its multi-platform "Solution Installer" on z/OS. So far, IBM has 
steadfastly refused to do so. :-(


http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/autonomic/library/ac-sivalue/

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Fwd: Re: IBM Announcements URL

2010-10-20 Thread Craig Dudley

Hi Ed,



>---SNIP-
>I tried again this morning and got through with no issue. Try it again
and see if it now works for you.

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SMP Packaging: was IBM announcements

2008-04-10 Thread Shane

On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:01 -0500, Arthur Gutowski wrote:

>   Since SMP/E is required to do any z/OS installation and maintenance, 
> and ServerPac Dialog is all but required, and CBPDO is relatively integrated 
> into 
> SMP/E... Is there any hope of IBM integrating the ServerPac application into 
> SMP/E?  Is there any hope that ISV's will eventually figure out how to write 
> their installation processes around ServerPac and not try to re-invent the 
> wheel, failing miserably at that?  Since Candle is now IBM, those products 
> are 
> now ServerPac-capable, and I'm hoping there is little to no need of CICAT 
> down the road.  But I don't think it takes an outright acquisition to 
> converge 
> tools - aren't many of these ISV's an IBM Development Partner? 

Allow me to dissent.
All vendor install packaging (especially the "helpful" installers) are
misguided and below par. Most are significantly worse than that.
Serverpac is the best of a bad lot - take that as faint praise or a
backhanded compliment - whatever. It still has it own warts.
I really *DON'T* need every fool ISV shipping me a full set of SMP zones
I have to restore.
I am prepared to tolerate it for the BCP. Period.
For everything else, gimme the relfiles, package it properly, and let me
design my own environment.

Shane ...

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-10 Thread Shane

On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 08:08 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

> But, I know of at least *one* ISV whose flagship 
> product's install procedures are continually rated "excellent" by its 
> customer base!

Excellent !!! - did he say excellent ???.
Perhaps one day I'll bump into Mr. Jaffe in a bar somewhere and coax out
of him who this mystical (mythical ???) vendor might be ...  ;-)

Shane ...

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-10 Thread Mark Zelden

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:20:14 +1000, Shane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 08:08 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>
>> But, I know of at least *one* ISV whose flagship
>> product's install procedures are continually rated "excellent" by its
>> customer base!
>
>Excellent !!! - did he say excellent ???.
>Perhaps one day I'll bump into Mr. Jaffe in a bar somewhere and coax out
>of him who this mystical (mythical ???) vendor might be ...  ;-)
>
>Shane ...
>

Doesn't just make you want to order a trial copy just to see?  :-)

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-10 Thread Edward Jaffe


Shane wrote:

Excellent !!! - did he say excellent ???.
Perhaps one day I'll bump into Mr. Jaffe in a bar somewhere and coax out
of him who this mystical (mythical ???) vendor might be ...  ;-)
  


In October 2000, a man I greatly admire and respect kindly wrote:
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0010&L=ibm-main-archives&P=R3449&I=1.

Of course, things have only gotten worse since then ... ;-)

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-10 Thread Clark Morris

On 10 Apr 2008 16:26:17 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>Shane wrote:
>> Excellent !!! - did he say excellent ???.
>> Perhaps one day I'll bump into Mr. Jaffe in a bar somewhere and coax out
>> of him who this mystical (mythical ???) vendor might be ...  ;-)
>>   
>
>In October 2000, a man I greatly admire and respect kindly wrote:
>http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0010&L=ibm-main-archives&P=R3449&I=1.
>
>Of course, things have only gotten worse since then ... ;-)
Since I can't get to the article via the URL since it won't let me log
in, could you give us a title or specific date?  I can log in and get
to ibm-main but not with that URL.

Thanks, Clark Morris

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-10 Thread Gibney, Dave

  I had the same problem until I realized that it was IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES,
not IBM-MAIN.

  Btw, we use the product mentioned. The install was easy and the
support is great.

> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Clark Morris
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:28 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)
> 
> On 10 Apr 2008 16:26:17 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
> 
> >Shane wrote:
> >> Excellent !!! - did he say excellent ???.
> >> Perhaps one day I'll bump into Mr. Jaffe in a bar somewhere and
coax
> out
> >> of him who this mystical (mythical ???) vendor might be ...  ;-)
> >>
> >
> >In October 2000, a man I greatly admire and respect kindly wrote:
>
>http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0010&L=ibm-main-archives&P=R3449&I=
1.
> >
> >Of course, things have only gotten worse since then ... ;-)
> Since I can't get to the article via the URL since it won't let me log
> in, could you give us a title or specific date?  I can log in and get
> to ibm-main but not with that URL.
> 
> Thanks, Clark Morris
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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-11 Thread Chase, John

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
> 
> Shane wrote:
> > Excellent !!! - did he say excellent ???.
> > Perhaps one day I'll bump into Mr. Jaffe in a bar somewhere 
> and coax 
> > out of him who this mystical (mythical ???) vendor might be ...  ;-)
> >   
> 
> In October 2000, a man I greatly admire and respect kindly wrote:
> http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0010&L=ibm-main-archives&P
> =R3449&I=1.
> 
> Of course, things have only gotten worse since then ... ;-)

Sorry, you are not authorized to browse the archives of the
IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES list from the email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) you
entered in the login screen.

WTF???  Worked fine yesterday...

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-11 Thread Daniel McLaughlin

Had a similar experience last week

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> > -Original Message-
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> > 
> > Shane wrote:
> > > Excellent !!! - did he say excellent ???.
> > > Perhaps one day I'll bump into Mr. Jaffe in a bar somewhere 
> > and coax 
> > > out of him who this mystical (mythical ???) vendor might be ...  ;-)
> > > 
> > 
> > In October 2000, a man I greatly admire and respect kindly wrote:
> > http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0010&L=ibm-main-archives&P
> > =R3449&I=1.
> > 
> > Of course, things have only gotten worse since then ... ;-)
> 
> Sorry, you are not authorized to browse the archives of the
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> WTF???  Worked fine yesterday...
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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-11 Thread Walt Farrell

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:28:12 -0300, Clark Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>On 10 Apr 2008 16:26:17 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>
>
>>In October 2000, a man I greatly admire and respect kindly wrote:
>>http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0010&L=ibm-main-archives&P=R3449&I=1.
>>
>>Of course, things have only gotten worse since then ... ;-)
>Since I can't get to the article via the URL since it won't let me log
>in, could you give us a title or specific date?  I can log in and get
>to ibm-main but not with that URL.
>

It's in IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES.  If you couldn't sign-in via that URL, you won't
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and earlier if I remember correctly.  You can subscribe to it, and then
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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-11 Thread Arthur Gutowski

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:08:34 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

>Yous [sic] premise that ServerPac is somehow exemplary might be your 
opinion [..]

Thus the  and .  I have not yet had the priviledge of installing 
the aforementioned product, but I hear from my teammates it's not too 
shabby, though some recent maintenance packaging was openly questioned 
(addressed promptly and thoroughly :) ...  There are other good product 
installers out there, IMHO.  BTW, when did you move to NY?

>Keep in mind that ServerPac is an SMP/E "bypass". It _restores_ SMP/E
>zones rather than installing into them. This might be OK for a complete
>reinstall of z/OS. But, I submit that this is *not* the preferred,
>optimal -- or even necessarily the "correct" -- way to add a product to
>an existing pre-configured system!

Interesting choice of words.  I used to look at it as an add-on, but "bypass" 
has merit.  Certainly for individual products, simple SMP/E packaging or PDO 
works.  Even z/OS upgrades might do better with PDO or ServerPac "lite" 
(system refresh).  For those of us that don't do a great job of tidying up, 
periodic system replace can be a good thing.  While I'm not sold on the 
CSI/Zone restore/replace either, I do consider *most* of the rest of 
ServerPac exemplary, yes.

>[..]How great would it be if you could install software on z/OS with the same 
>ease as on other platforms?

Nerdvana.  On the flip side, there is job security to consider...

>http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/autonomic/library/ac-sivalue/

Interesting reading, thanks for sharing.  A shame IBM is dragging it's feet - 
I'm 
sure there are reasons, the likes of which *customers* may never understand.

Regards,
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Ford Motor Company IT Infrastructure
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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:08:34 -0700, Edward Jaffe 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>Keep in mind that ServerPac is an SMP/E "bypass". It _restores_ 
SMP/E
>zones rather than installing into them. This might be OK for a complete
>reinstall of z/OS. But, I submit that this is *not* the preferred,
>optimal -- or even necessarily the "correct" -- way to add a product to
>an existing pre-configured system!
>...

I think Ed is being a bit too restrained in his critique.  I might have
slipped in a "... totally unacceptable ..." somewhere.   I might relent
a bit if the vendor has a very good track record, provides very good
Program Directory-like documentation, and under no circumstances
would ever have its product installed in with other products in the
same CSI.

That last requirement is probably statisfied by any product that 
doesn't meet the other 2, but I can't think of many products that 
satisfy all 3.  And I strongly expect my list of caveats would grow if 
I spent a bit more time thinking about it.

Being a basically paranoid type, I would want to look very closely 
at any product using a ServerPac model for "installation" and try
verify everything done by SMP in a more standard Rec/App/Acc 
type of installation.  I see this kind of installations as a burden
rather than a time-saver - more things to be checked manually.

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-11 Thread Tom Marchant

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:39:31 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote:

>
>... under no circumstances
>would ever have its product installed in with other products in the
>same CSI.

Could you be a little more specific about what you mean by this?

Are you referring to the target/DLIB zones or the global?

What about multiple related products from the same vendor?  I'm working in 
software development now, but when I was a sys prog, I always found it 
annoying when a vendor insisted that every product had to go in its own zone.

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-11 Thread Edward Jaffe


Tom Marchant wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:39:31 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote:

  

... under no circumstances
would ever have its product installed in with other products in the
same CSI.



Could you be a little more specific about what you mean by this?

Are you referring to the target/DLIB zones or the global?

What about multiple related products from the same vendor?  I'm working in 
software development now, but when I was a sys prog, I always found it 
annoying when a vendor insisted that every product had to go in its own zone.
  


IIUC, his statement applies iff some ISV was foolish enough to follow 
the ServerPac model and do a full restore of pre-populated SMP/E zones.


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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:57:17 -0500, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:39:31 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
>
>>
>>... under no circumstances
>>would ever have its product installed in with other products in the
>>same CSI.
>
>Could you be a little more specific about what you mean by this?
>
>Are you referring to the target/DLIB zones or the global?
>
>What about multiple related products from the same vendor?  I'm working in
>software development now, but when I was a sys prog, I always found it
>annoying when a vendor insisted that every product had to go in its own zone.
>...

Ed interpreted my statement correctly, but I thought I'd respond 
directly to your statement.

To my "...under no circumstances ... same CSI."  I should have added
"and I'd seriously recommend we never look at this vendor again!"
The product should be isolated in its own Global/target/DLIB zones
... and dumped in the trash.  (Ok.  There are maybe some exceptions, 
but don't tell the vendors.)

I absolutely agree with your last statement.   Certainly a shared 
GLOBAL zone.  And I get irritated if I need more than one target and
DLIB per vendor.I know, I know.  Acquired products may have 
colliding DD statements (and I hate needing DD statements overriding
DDDEFs almost as much as I hate multiple zones).  It's because I 
agree with you last statement that I dislike and distrust an installation 
by restore.  I hate the assumption that nothing belongs in the zone
but the one pristine product.

Target/DLIB - A restore of the zones makes me seriously grumpy.
The GLOBAL zone?   I'd go ballistic. 

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-14 Thread Daniel McLaughlin

Regarding same ISV products in a common zone. Some products I have seen in 
the past have intersecting modules and can result in issues depending on 
the final linklist order.



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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-14 Thread Rob Scott

It is also worth remembering that although the ISV can request a 
three-character element prefix from the IBM registry - there is no guarantee 
that all ISVs are adhering to the same standard.

Also, even if all parties are using their element prefixes - what about the 
associated PTF and APAR names ?

For the above two reasons, I always advise customers to install MXI into its 
own TGT and DLIB zones - however the final choice is always down to them.

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Regarding same ISV products in a common zone. Some products I have seen in the 
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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-14 Thread Daniel McLaughlin

snippage
  For the above two reasons, I always advise customers to install MXI into 
its own TGT and DLIB zones - however the final choice is always down to 
them.
end of snippage

Would rather spend an extra few hundred cylinders of space and isolate my 
products than mix them up and try to undo a Gordian knot.

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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/10/2008
   at 08:08 AM, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Keep in mind that ServerPac is an SMP/E "bypass". It _restores_ SMP/E 
>zones rather than installing into them.

Keep in mind that you are talking about a specific step within ServerPac,
not about the services that ServerPac provides for constructing dialogs. I
don't believe that Art suggested that ISV's should use the existing
ServerPac jobs, just the structure that manages them.
 
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Re: Installers (Was: IBM announcements)

2008-04-14 Thread Arthur Gutowski

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:50:47 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)  wrote:

>On 04/10/2008 at 08:08 AM, Edward Jaffe 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>>Keep in mind that ServerPac is an SMP/E "bypass". It _restores_ SMP/E
>>zones rather than installing into them.
>
>Keep in mind that you are talking about a specific step within ServerPac,
>not about the services that ServerPac provides for constructing dialogs. I
>don't believe that Art suggested that ISV's should use the existing
>ServerPac jobs, just the structure that manages them.
>
A subtle point I had in mind, but wasn't sure how to express it.  I did not 
mean to suggest every vendor follow the exact same process, job for job.  
However, the architecture & repository is there for product installs, PDO's, 
ServerPac, SystemPac, whatever.  Of course, this requires IBM to "open up" 
the the interfaces enough for ISVs to exploit.

As I said, some ISVs do a good job already, but it would be *nice* to have 
a "common" database & template.

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company

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Re: SMP Packaging: was IBM announcements

2008-04-10 Thread Rick Fochtman





Allow me to dissent.
All vendor install packaging (especially the "helpful" installers) are
misguided and below par. Most are significantly worse than that.
Serverpac is the best of a bad lot - take that as faint praise or a
backhanded compliment - whatever. It still has it own warts.
I really *DON'T* need every fool ISV shipping me a full set of SMP zones
I have to restore.
I am prepared to tolerate it for the BCP. Period.
For everything else, gimme the relfiles, package it properly, and let me
design my own environment.
 


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I'm inclined to agree, Shane. Especially where products have 
maintenance-dependant hooks into operating system code, like the old 
Boole & Babbage monitors that BMC now markets. And those so-called 
"helpful installers" are all too often more trouble than they're worth. 
In short, they're a pain in the (vulger term for posterior).


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More IBM Announcements (July 18 and July 25, 2006)

2006-07-25 Thread Timothy Sipples

1. I missed this one last week, but it's interesting.  Novell SUSE Linux
Enterprise Server (SLES), including mainframe Linux, is now available for
ordering through IBM:

http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/2/897/ENUS206-172/ENUS206-172.PDF

Linux itself is free software, remember.  (It's perfectly legal for you to
install and run Linux on your mainframe without asking anyone for
permission.)  You're buying Novell support using an IBM part number, and
that might be helpful to some procurement departments.

2. On July 25, 2006, IBM announced Value Unit-based pricing for nearly its
entire Passport Advantage (distributed) software portfolio.  Details here:

http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS206-154/ENUS206-154.PDF

This one is quite interesting.  IBM now assigns a number (Value Units) to
each distributed server processor core.  Then software is priced based on
the proxy number, not on the number of cores or chips.  None of the
software pricing changed with this announcement, but in the future it
effectively could.  Here's how the numbers are assigned today (per core) as
the starting baseline:

All single core processors: 100
AMD Opteron dual core: 50
Intel Xenon dual core: 50
IBM POWER5 dual core: 100
HP PA-RISC dual core: 100
Sun UltraSPARC IV dual core: 100
IBM PowerPC dual core: 50
IBM POWER5 QCM dual core: 50
Sun UltraSPARC T1 quad/hexa/octi core: 30
Intel Itanium dual core: 100
IBM System z IFL or engine: 100
Everything else: 100

As you can see, with 100 Value Units = 1 old "processor" license, i.e. each
Value Unit = 1% of the processor license price, none of the pricing changed
today.

That's very good news for System z IFLs, I'd say.  (Some people have
expressed fear that IBM would "come to its senses" with IFL software
pricing.  It has.  No change.  Keep enjoying.)  One possible side effect is
that, at least in the future, software pricing should tend to reward code
efficiency and virtualization and make even more costly huge numbers of
non-virtualized distributed servers.  Unlike some other software vendors
there's no cap on the number of virtualized servers that you can run --
virtualization is moot in terms of IBM software licensing costs.
Considering that IBM has really, really good virtualization technologies
(IFLs being the pinnacle in the non-z/OS world), this makes perfect sense.
I suppose this is also good for the planet, (more electricity for your
servers and you'll probably pay more for software, too).

This is actually a simpler pricing schedule than before because it
eliminates some wacky fractional licenses, especially for Sun, that were
painful to track for everyone involved.

I guess you could say that even Intel processors now get MSU ratings, more
or less.  We live in interesting times.

As a reminder, I don't speak for IBM.  Which should be obvious by now. :-)

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Timothy F. Sipples
Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
Tokyo (Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific)
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Some IBM Announcements for z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE (Aug 5, 2008)

2008-08-05 Thread Pamela Christina in warm & sunny Endicott NY

For the participants of IBMVM, LINUX-390, and IBMMAIN who
are interested in z/OS, z/VM, and z/VSE...

The following announcements were made today

IBM z/VM V5.4 - Extending virtualization technology for System z

IBM z/OS V1.10 offers new scalability, performance, availability, economics,
and solutions for enterprise information

IBM z/VSE Version 4 Release 2 is generally available to help enable growth

IBM C/C++ for z/VM V1.2 supports the latest programming standards

You can find the ann-let text on your favorite geo announcement site,
or you can also look on the z/VM site info/changes page.

http://www.vm.ibm.com/siteinfo/change.html


Enjoy!

Regards,
Pam C

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Re: Some IBM Announcements for z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE (Aug 5, 2008)

2008-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:59:26 -0400, Pamela Christina in warm & sunny Endicott NY 
wrote:
>
>You can find the ann-let text on your favorite geo announcement site,
>or you can also look on the z/VM site info/changes page.
>
> http://www.vm.ibm.com/siteinfo/change.html
>
 * SDSF now provides job and output management for JES3,

Wow!  (Should I have known this earlier?)

 * IBM provides a new JES3 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) application 
programming
   interface ...

Another one?

 * These ease-of-use functions are available for ISPF:
  + The ability to specify multiple targets for the ISPF EDIT move and 
copy line
commands. This can help you eliminate repetitious use of these 
commands when
copying or moving lines that will have multiple destinations.

I've wished for this since my first exposure to ISPF.

  + A new z/OS UNIX interface to ISPF and TSO/E commands to allow them 
to be
issued from the z/OS UNIX shell.

So can I do a bunch of ALLOCATEs, then a CALL?  Would be great.  Might
this be built on the Rexx ADDRESS TSO facility?

  + A new ISPF service, DIRLIST, to display z/OS UNIX directory. Also, 
a new ISPF
command, UDLIST, allows a directory to be listed.

Will DDLIST ever become savvy to mixed concatenations of PDS and UNIX
directories?

  + Enhanced Screen Swapping. When using more than two logical screens, 
navigation
among the screens can be supplemented by Point and Shoot fields at 
bottom of
the screen. This new support is intended to make it easier to 
navigate within
an ISPF session and to supplement the existing SWAP LIST and SWAP 
NEXT
support.
  + The ISPF Data Set List panel (Option 3.4) is enhanced to support 
block
commands. This is intended to allow you to act on multiple data 
sets using
fewer line commands; for example, using paired "DD" commands will 
specify that
a block of data sets is to be deleted.

Often wished for on this list.

-- gil

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Re: Some IBM Announcements for z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE (Aug 5, 2008)

2008-08-05 Thread Edward Jaffe


Paul Gilmartin wrote:

 * SDSF now provides job and output management for JES3,

Wow!  (Should I have known this earlier?)
  


You might have guessed it since they rewrote everything to use 
JES-neutral SSI 80 to gather job-related information. Some of the 
ensuing problems have been discussed here in recent weeks.



 * IBM provides a new JES3 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) application 
programming
   interface ...

Another one?
  


Their first one. Only JES2 had this before. And, SDSF depends on it.

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