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In listserv%201007020846367870.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 07/02/2010 at 08:46 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Yet there are products such as ClamAV for Linux, so it appears that someone perceives a need. If you're passing data to a vulnerable system then it makes sense to scan those data even if you aren't vulnerable. Just tell them, Oh! RACF does all that! Lying to your management is not a good idea. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Just tell them, Oh! RACF does all that! Lying to your management is not a good idea. Agreed about lying, but see below: Paul wrote on 2 July this (I quote fully for clarity): Perhaps it's merely to satisfy a management edict that Every computer must run AV protection! (What about the mainframe? Just tell them, Oh! RACF does all that!) IMHO: Actually on z/OS side (Not Linux or Unix side) there are no antivirus software, because there are NO [1] vendors to start with it. While you can say 'RACF does all that', it is a good thing to remember that RACF does NOT *scan* datasets or files or JES2/3 Spool data for threats. Perhaps you could do some scanning on e-mails before you pass it to SMTP, but that is another story for a 'do nothing' day... ;-D For really bored sysprogs and wannabee enterpreneurs ;-D : You could perhaps do some scanning for each access attempt (during RACROUTE call) if you see your way open to handle severe performance problems... 8-D [1] - Last time I checked that was about a year or so ago... ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of George Henke Between a persistant virus and a hard drive failure, I've lost my entire address list and ask for your help in rebuilding it. I've also lost a lot of other things, but that's another story. :-( You need Kaspersky Anti-Virus. It is the best anti-virus software I know. The best anti-virus software I've found so far is Linux. :-) And, it's FREE! -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:46:34 -0500, Chase, John wrote: The best anti-virus software I've found so far is Linux. :-) And, it's FREE! Yet there are products such as ClamAV for Linux, so it appears that someone perceives a need. Perhaps it's merely to satisfy a management edict that Every computer must run AV protection! (What about the mainframe? Just tell them, Oh! RACF does all that!) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 08:46:36 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:46:34 -0500, Chase, John wrote: The best anti-virus software I've found so far is Linux. :-) And, it's FREE! Yet there are products such as ClamAV for Linux, so it appears that someone perceives a need. Perhaps it's merely to satisfy a management edict that Every computer must run AV protection! (What about the mainframe? Just tell them, Oh! RACF does all that!) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html I could be wrong, but I thought that ClamAV scanned Linux files for *Windows* malware so that it could be deleted before sending it on to a Windows machine. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Merely your open systems friends protecting the unwashed masses. clamav is (predominantly) used on *nix mailhosts to remove viruses aimed at Windows users before handing on the mail. Shane ... On Fri, Jul 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: The best anti-virus software I've found so far is Linux. :-) And, it's FREE! Yet there are products such as ClamAV for Linux, so it appears that someone perceives a need. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On 2 Jul 2010 04:48:56 -0700, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: The best anti-virus software I've found so far is Linux. :-) And, it's FREE! Free helps. But when is the last time you got an MVS virus? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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---snip- The best anti-virus software I've found so far is Linux. :-) And, it's FREE! -unsnip- I maintain that a properly tuned version of IEBEYEBALL and a generous dose of common sense can exceed the capabilities of ANY anti-virus software. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I thought so too until I encountered backdoor graybird. Let me tell you this stuff is super subtle complete with boot sector traps, registry trojans. You need anti-virus in the toymachine world. Mainframe is still below the radar. On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ---snip- The best anti-virus software I've found so far is Linux. :-) And, it's FREE! -unsnip- I maintain that a properly tuned version of IEBEYEBALL and a generous dose of common sense can exceed the capabilities of ANY anti-virus software. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On 2 Jul 2010 13:51:38 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I thought so too until I encountered backdoor graybird. Let me tell you this stuff is super subtle complete with boot sector traps, registry trojans. You need anti-virus in the toymachine world. Mainframe is still below the radar. At least no exploits have been publicized. I would assume there could be some interesting attacks on mainframe web-servers and for compromises, insiders are still the biggest worry. Linux and Apple are both getting enough use that writing viruses (etc.) for fun and profit can be worth while. Remember the vulnerability can be in the browser, the web-server, or the email package. Clark Morris rest snipped -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Between a persistant virus and a hard drive failure, I've lost my entire address list and ask for your help in rebuilding it. I've also lost a lot of other things, but that's another story. :-( You need Kaspersky Anti-Virus. It is the best anti-virus software I know. I had a similar experience New Year's Eve with the 2010 virus and welcomed in the New Year ghosting my pc and installing Kaspersky. Always bolting the barn door after the horse gets out. But from what I have seen, heard, and experienced, Kaspersky is the best among the people in the know and it is very inexpensive. A great combination. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Greatly appreciated. Thanks, Steve. Rick --- Steve Comstock wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: A great number of you kind ladies and gentlemen have shared private E-Mail addresses with me in the past. I would be highly appreciative (and VERY DISCRETE), if you could share that information again. Just drop me a line with Address as the subject line. Between a persistant virus and a hard drive failure, I've lost my entire address list and ask for your help in rebuilding it. I've also lost a lot of other things, but that's another story. :-( Rick, This is just a formality, since I always sign in the clear. But I wanted to be explicit about it. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Greatly appreciated. Thanks, Steve. Rick --- Steve Comstock wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: A great number of you kind ladies and gentlemen have shared private E-Mail addresses with me in the past. I would be highly appreciative (and VERY DISCRETE), if you could share that information again. Just drop me a line with Address as the subject line. Between a persistant virus and a hard drive failure, I've lost my entire address list and ask for your help in rebuilding it. I've also lost a lot of other things, but that's another story. :-( Rick, This is just a formality, since I always sign in the clear. But I wanted to be explicit about it. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Rick Fochtman wrote: A great number of you kind ladies and gentlemen have shared private E-Mail addresses with me in the past. I would be highly appreciative (and VERY DISCRETE), if you could share that information again. Just drop me a line with Address as the subject line. Between a persistant virus and a hard drive failure, I've lost my entire address list and ask for your help in rebuilding it. I've also lost a lot of other things, but that's another story. :-( Rick, This is just a formality, since I always sign in the clear. But I wanted to be explicit about it. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Steve Comstock wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: A great number of you kind ladies and gentlemen have shared private E-Mail addresses with me in the past. I would be highly appreciative (and VERY DISCRETE), if you could share that information again. Just drop me a line with Address as the subject line. Between a persistant virus and a hard drive failure, I've lost my entire address list and ask for your help in rebuilding it. I've also lost a lot of other things, but that's another story. :-( Rick, This is just a formality, since I always sign in the clear. But I wanted to be explicit about it. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. I always appreciate help, from any source. Thanks, Steve Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Hi Rick, Here are my email addresses: eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com used only for IBM-Main eri...@wi.rr.com used for everything else. I would think you could get everyone who posts occasionally on IBM-Main from the list. I know my Windows Mail program shows me the email address for everything I get in emails. Sorry to hear about your misfortune. That reminded me that I haven't backed up my files for a long time. It inspired me so much that I still haven't backed up my files! Are you working now? I take it you are just doing occasional contract jobs. Eric Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: OT completely.. A great number of you kind ladies and gentlemen have shared private E-Mail addresses with me in the past. I would be highly appreciative (and VERY DISCRETE), if you could share that information again. Just drop me a line with Address as the subject line. Between a persistant virus and a hard drive failure, I've lost my entire address list and ask for your help in rebuilding it. I've also lost a lot of other things, but that's another story. :-( -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
