Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 22:55:01 -0500, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote: Sorry for the blatant plug, but there also is SyzCmdZ which contains all of the features of each of the command scripting products mentioned and many more. Info at WWW.SyzygyInc.NET Brian -- Brian, I know your software is relatively inexpensive. Is this one free? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
I can't seem to find VTAMAPPL. Where is this program located? On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote: There is VTAMAPPL. We use that, it has PAUSE nn etc. Use it to start all our STCs and put appropriate PAUSEs in the commands. Also used to automate shutdown. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:03 AM, George Rodriguezrodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us wrote: Hi Listeners, Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: //IVPRDR PROC CLASS='X', DEFAULT SYSOUT CLASS IS A // M=DUMMY DEFAULT MEMBER IS BASE IVP JOBS //* LIB: IPO1.PROCLIB(IVPRDR) //* GDE: CBIPO MVS INSTALLATION //* DOC: THIS IPO PROCEDURE, WHEN STARTED WITH //* A MEMBER NAME (S IVPRDR,M=MEMBER), TAKES //* THE MEMBER FROM IPO1.IVPLIB AND SUBMITS //* THE JOB TO AN MVS INTERNAL READER. //* //IEFPROCEXEC PGM=IEBEDIT //SYSIN DDDUMMY //SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DDDDNAME=IEFRDER //SYSUT2 DDSYSOUT=(CLASS,INTRDR),DCB=BLKSIZE=80 //IEFRDERDDDSN=SYS2.IVPRDR.JCL(M), // DISP=SHR The member name that we use is called STARTUP and what's in it follows: /*$SLGN(*) /*$SLNE(1442-1450) /*$VS,'V 3400-34FF,OFFLINE' /*$VS,'-DSNPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNQSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'S TCPIPMVS' /*$VS,'S ABENDAID' /*$VS,'S ADABASP' /*$VS,'S ADABAST' /*$VS,'S CAOMS' . . . /*$VS,'S XDSSPROC' /*$VS,'F RMF.RMF,S III' The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are you willing to share whatever you use? Thanks in advance... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 .West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
I'll have to search my LINKLIST, when we ran a FLEX it came from the ADCD libs. I'll get back unless other posters know the origin. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I can't seem to find VTAMAPPL. Where is this program located? On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote: There is VTAMAPPL. We use that, it has PAUSE nn etc. Use it to start all our STCs and put appropriate PAUSEs in the commands. Also used to automate shutdown. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:03 AM, George Rodriguezrodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us wrote: Hi Listeners, Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: //IVPRDR PROC CLASS='X', DEFAULT SYSOUT CLASS IS A // M=DUMMY DEFAULT MEMBER IS BASE IVP JOBS //* LIB: IPO1.PROCLIB(IVPRDR) //* GDE: CBIPO MVS INSTALLATION //* DOC: THIS IPO PROCEDURE, WHEN STARTED WITH //* A MEMBER NAME (S IVPRDR,M=MEMBER), TAKES //* THE MEMBER FROM IPO1.IVPLIB AND SUBMITS //* THE JOB TO AN MVS INTERNAL READER. //* //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=IEBEDIT //SYSIN DD DUMMY //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD DDNAME=IEFRDER //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=(CLASS,INTRDR),DCB=BLKSIZE=80 //IEFRDER DD DSN=SYS2.IVPRDR.JCL(M), // DISP=SHR The member name that we use is called STARTUP and what's in it follows: /*$SLGN(*) /*$SLNE(1442-1450) /*$VS,'V 3400-34FF,OFFLINE' /*$VS,'-DSNPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNQSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'S TCPIPMVS' /*$VS,'S ABENDAID' /*$VS,'S ADABASP' /*$VS,'S ADABAST' /*$VS,'S CAOMS' . . . /*$VS,'S XDSSPROC' /*$VS,'F RMF.RMF,S III' The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are you willing to share whatever you use? Thanks in advance... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 .West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:32:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I can't seem to find VTAMAPPL. Where is this program located? That is an ADCD program.I have something on my web site and CBT file 434 called ACBCHECK. It's not the same as VTAMAPPL, but can serve a similar purpose. *** *** THIS PROGRAM WILL CHECK IF A VTAM ACB IS AVAILABLE, *** *** IF IT IS NOT THE PROGRAM WILL WAIT 15 SECONDS AND TRY *** *** AGAIN. IT WILL KEEP TRYING FOR UP TO 15 MINUTES.*** *** *** *** IT CAN BE PUT INTO STCS AS A FIRST STEP SO THE STC CAN *** *** BE STARTED VIA COMMNDXX AT IPL BEFORE VTAM IS ACTIVE. *** *** *** *** THE PROGRAM MUST BE PASSED A PARM OF THE ACB TO CHECK. *** *** *** SAMPLE JCL: *** *** //STEP1 EXEC PGM=ACBCHECK,PARM=TSO -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
The only reason we did that was because the conversion of one release to another started almost 2.5 years ago. Remember that I said that the problem wasn't the installation of the system but rather the application testing. That's what took us so long to go from v1.4 to v1.7. Thanks for all the responses on the wait between STC. George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tue Sep 08 22:30:35 2009 Subject: Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL At 14:13 -0500 on 09/08/2009, Mark Zelden wrote about Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL: On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:35:28 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: George Rodriguez wrote: The truth is that we just got off of v1.4... Not because of the system work that was required, but because of the testing that needed to be done by application support. There was a great deal of changes that were needed to go to v1.7 and to eliminate a double billing situation with 2 versions of CICS (v1.3 and v3.1). Now that we are done, the plan is to go to v1.9 and in a couple of years go to v1.10 or v1.11 (depending on how stable it is). I'm just concerned that you're spending valuable time upgrading from an unsupported release to a release that becomes unsupported exactly three weeks from tomorrow... See http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html He still has another year My question is why waste the time/effort to go to from v1.4 to v1.7 only to get one year of support when going to v1.8 would seem to be the same time/effort and would result in a number of years of support. It is not as if v1.8 was bleeding edge and thus a larger risk than v1.7. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:30:35 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com wrote: My question is why waste the time/effort to go to from v1.4 to v1.7 only to get one year of support when going to v1.8 would seem to be the same time/effort and would result in a number of years of support. It is not as if v1.8 was bleeding edge and thus a larger risk than v1.7. This sort of thing has been discussed many times. I have no idea what the exact circumstances are here, but if you need coexistence, you have to stay within the supported coexistence levels. This is not the same as jumping forward or even (unsupported) fallback. I'm talking about running a mixed complex (shared spool, catalogs, dasd, various control data sets for HSM, RMM, etc.). If your business is willing to make the jump forward for all systems at the same time, then you can do it. If not, you have to stay within the supported coexistence levels. And no, the extended support for z/OS 1.7 and z/OS 1.8 does not address this issue. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
- Original Message From: George Rodriguez rodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are you willing to share whatever you use? For startup, as well as shutdown, we use the AUTOIPL package from Zhou Guanghui. (file 623 at www.cbttape.org). It has some very good features like WAIT, REPLY, WTO/WTOH. The only drawback is that it can't be started under the master scheduler. So, for shutdown purposes I use the COMMAND package (already mentioned by others) to close JES2 and issue Z EOD. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
-snip--- There is VTAMAPPL. We use that, it has PAUSE nn etc. Use it to start all our STCs and put appropriate PAUSEs in the commands. Also used to automate shutdown. --unsnip--- We always used the NETINIT and COMMAND programs from the CBT Tape site for automated startup and shutdown. Our automation product was considered unsuitable for most of the tasks involved in startup/shutdown, so I decline to name it. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
Thanks for all the input suggestions that you've all provided. When I presented the idea to my co-worker, he very graciously said to me, why not keep it simple? I'll start VTAM and TCPIP and once both are up, we'll tell the Operator to enter the command S IVPRDR,M=STARTUP. To which my answer was, that'll work too. Sometimes I forget the simple things... Again thanks for all the help! George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL -snip--- There is VTAMAPPL. We use that, it has PAUSE nn etc. Use it to start all our STCs and put appropriate PAUSEs in the commands. Also used to automate shutdown. --unsnip--- We always used the NETINIT and COMMAND programs from the CBT Tape site for automated startup and shutdown. Our automation product was considered unsuitable for most of the tasks involved in startup/shutdown, so I decline to name it. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
In my comment what I should have made clear was that on the older system everything is in sync with the older level and the newer system everything in in sync for the upgraded system. If I didn't make that clear then I should have...sorry about that. --- On Wed, 9/9/09, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com Subject: Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 9:42 AM On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:30:35 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com wrote: My question is why waste the time/effort to go to from v1.4 to v1.7 only to get one year of support when going to v1.8 would seem to be the same time/effort and would result in a number of years of support. It is not as if v1.8 was bleeding edge and thus a larger risk than v1.7. This sort of thing has been discussed many times. I have no idea what the exact circumstances are here, but if you need coexistence, you have to stay within the supported coexistence levels. This is not the same as jumping forward or even (unsupported) fallback. I'm talking about running a mixed complex (shared spool, catalogs, dasd, various control data sets for HSM, RMM, etc.). If your business is willing to make the jump forward for all systems at the same time, then you can do it. If not, you have to stay within the supported coexistence levels. And no, the extended support for z/OS 1.7 and z/OS 1.8 does not address this issue. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
Sorry for the blatant plug, but there also is SyzCmdZ which contains all of the features of each of the command scripting products mentioned and many more. Info at WWW.SyzygyInc.NET Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
snip Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: unsnip If you're 1.9+, the System REXX (AXR) might do it too. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:03:10 -0400, George Rodriguez rodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us wrote: Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: snip The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are you willing to share whatever you use? For my sandbox LPARs, I use the COMMAND program from CBT file 19. It should be very simple to convert your current procedures to COMMAND. I also use COMMAND to shutdown those LPARs. http://www.cbttape.org Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Startup of All STCs After IPL
Hi Listeners, Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: //IVPRDR PROC CLASS='X', DEFAULT SYSOUT CLASS IS A // M=DUMMY DEFAULT MEMBER IS BASE IVP JOBS //* LIB: IPO1.PROCLIB(IVPRDR) //* GDE: CBIPO MVS INSTALLATION //* DOC: THIS IPO PROCEDURE, WHEN STARTED WITH //* A MEMBER NAME (S IVPRDR,M=MEMBER), TAKES //* THE MEMBER FROM IPO1.IVPLIB AND SUBMITS //* THE JOB TO AN MVS INTERNAL READER. //* //IEFPROCEXEC PGM=IEBEDIT //SYSIN DDDUMMY //SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DDDDNAME=IEFRDER //SYSUT2 DDSYSOUT=(CLASS,INTRDR),DCB=BLKSIZE=80 //IEFRDERDDDSN=SYS2.IVPRDR.JCL(M), // DISP=SHR The member name that we use is called STARTUP and what's in it follows: /*$SLGN(*) /*$SLNE(1442-1450) /*$VS,'V 3400-34FF,OFFLINE' /*$VS,'-DSNPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNQSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'S TCPIPMVS' /*$VS,'S ABENDAID' /*$VS,'S ADABASP' /*$VS,'S ADABAST' /*$VS,'S CAOMS' . . . /*$VS,'S XDSSPROC' /*$VS,'F RMF.RMF,S III' The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are you willing to share whatever you use? Thanks in advance... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 .West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
We use a product called ALEXCMD and I think it's on the share tape, It allows waits and also responds to messages. Edouard A. Myers Senior Information Technology Specialist Office of the Chief Technology Officer DC Government 222 Massachusetts Ave, NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20001 Phone : 202-727-4017 Fax: 202-727-3880 Email: edouard.my...@dc.gov Website: http://www.octo.dc.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Startup of All STCs After IPL Hi Listeners, Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: //IVPRDR PROC CLASS='X', DEFAULT SYSOUT CLASS IS A // M=DUMMY DEFAULT MEMBER IS BASE IVP JOBS //* LIB: IPO1.PROCLIB(IVPRDR) //* GDE: CBIPO MVS INSTALLATION //* DOC: THIS IPO PROCEDURE, WHEN STARTED WITH //* A MEMBER NAME (S IVPRDR,M=MEMBER), TAKES //* THE MEMBER FROM IPO1.IVPLIB AND SUBMITS //* THE JOB TO AN MVS INTERNAL READER. //* //IEFPROCEXEC PGM=IEBEDIT //SYSIN DDDUMMY //SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DDDDNAME=IEFRDER //SYSUT2 DDSYSOUT=(CLASS,INTRDR),DCB=BLKSIZE=80 //IEFRDERDDDSN=SYS2.IVPRDR.JCL(M), // DISP=SHR The member name that we use is called STARTUP and what's in it follows: /*$SLGN(*) /*$SLNE(1442-1450) /*$VS,'V 3400-34FF,OFFLINE' /*$VS,'-DSNPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNQSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'S TCPIPMVS' /*$VS,'S ABENDAID' /*$VS,'S ADABASP' /*$VS,'S ADABAST' /*$VS,'S CAOMS' . . . /*$VS,'S XDSSPROC' /*$VS,'F RMF.RMF,S III' The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are you willing to share whatever you use? Thanks in advance... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 .West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
George Rodriguez wrote: Nope..On v1.7...Working on 1.9... Did you purchase the z/OS 1.7 Lifecycle Extension? Or are you simply running unsupported? If the latter, why limit your upgrade to within the supported three-year migration window? BTW, I'm not judging. I'm just asking... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
Hi Edouard, I found ALEXCMDS on the cbttape, but there's not much in the way of documentation and only one example. Do you have anything extra that you can spare? Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Myers, Edouard (OCTO) Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL We use a product called ALEXCMD and I think it's on the share tape, It allows waits and also responds to messages. Edouard A. Myers Senior Information Technology Specialist Office of the Chief Technology Officer DC Government 222 Massachusetts Ave, NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20001 Phone : 202-727-4017 Fax: 202-727-3880 Email: edouard.my...@dc.gov Website: http://www.octo.dc.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Startup of All STCs After IPL Hi Listeners, Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: //IVPRDR PROC CLASS='X', DEFAULT SYSOUT CLASS IS A // M=DUMMY DEFAULT MEMBER IS BASE IVP JOBS //* LIB: IPO1.PROCLIB(IVPRDR) //* GDE: CBIPO MVS INSTALLATION //* DOC: THIS IPO PROCEDURE, WHEN STARTED WITH //* A MEMBER NAME (S IVPRDR,M=MEMBER), TAKES //* THE MEMBER FROM IPO1.IVPLIB AND SUBMITS //* THE JOB TO AN MVS INTERNAL READER. //* //IEFPROCEXEC PGM=IEBEDIT //SYSIN DDDUMMY //SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DDDDNAME=IEFRDER //SYSUT2 DDSYSOUT=(CLASS,INTRDR),DCB=BLKSIZE=80 //IEFRDERDDDSN=SYS2.IVPRDR.JCL(M), // DISP=SHR The member name that we use is called STARTUP and what's in it follows: /*$SLGN(*) /*$SLNE(1442-1450) /*$VS,'V 3400-34FF,OFFLINE' /*$VS,'-DSNPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNQSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'S TCPIPMVS' /*$VS,'S ABENDAID' /*$VS,'S ADABASP' /*$VS,'S ADABAST' /*$VS,'S CAOMS' . . . /*$VS,'S XDSSPROC' /*$VS,'F RMF.RMF,S III' The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are you willing to share whatever you use? Thanks in advance... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 .West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
Nope..On v1.7...Working on 1.9... Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Kelly Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL snip Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: unsnip If you're 1.9+, the System REXX (AXR) might do it too. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
Hi Edward, The truth is that we just got off of v1.4... Not because of the system work that was required, but because of the testing that needed to be done by application support. There was a great deal of changes that were needed to go to v1.7 and to eliminate a double billing situation with 2 versions of CICS (v1.3 and v3.1). Now that we are done, the plan is to go to v1.9 and in a couple of years go to v1.10 or v1.11 (depending on how stable it is). We run an application called AdaBas and Natural, and migrating to that product was not easy. After we had downloaded / installed / customized the products, we needed to rollback a version because the latest release available would not work on v1.7 (yes they knew we were going to v1.7). I guess that fact escaped them the first go around. Thanks for bring back the memories :-) Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL George Rodriguez wrote: Nope..On v1.7...Working on 1.9... Did you purchase the z/OS 1.7 Lifecycle Extension? Or are you simply running unsupported? If the latter, why limit your upgrade to within the supported three-year migration window? BTW, I'm not judging. I'm just asking... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
George, Out of curiosity, what was the version of ADABAS/NATURAL you were running when faced with issues? and what version did you roll back to? Natarajan George Rodriguez rodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us 9/8/2009 11:15 AM Hi Edward, The truth is that we just got off of v1.4... Not because of the system work that was required, but because of the testing that needed to be done by application support. There was a great deal of changes that were needed to go to v1.7 and to eliminate a double billing situation with 2 versions of CICS (v1.3 and v3.1). Now that we are done, the plan is to go to v1.9 and in a couple of years go to v1.10 or v1.11 (depending on how stable it is). We run an application called AdaBas and Natural, and migrating to that product was not easy. After we had downloaded / installed / customized the products, we needed to rollback a version because the latest release available would not work on v1.7 (yes they knew we were going to v1.7). I guess that fact escaped them the first go around. Thanks for bring back the memories :-) Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY The information contained in this communication, including but not limited to any accompanying document(s) and/or attachment(s), is privileged and confidential and is intended solely for the above-named individual(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that any distribution, copying, disclosure, and/or use of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of the communication, whether in electronic or hard copy format, and immediately contact the Security Office at EdFund at (916) 526-7539 or securityoff...@edfund.org. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
George Rodriguez wrote: The truth is that we just got off of v1.4... Not because of the system work that was required, but because of the testing that needed to be done by application support. There was a great deal of changes that were needed to go to v1.7 and to eliminate a double billing situation with 2 versions of CICS (v1.3 and v3.1). Now that we are done, the plan is to go to v1.9 and in a couple of years go to v1.10 or v1.11 (depending on how stable it is). I'm just concerned that you're spending valuable time upgrading from an unsupported release to a release that becomes unsupported exactly three weeks from tomorrow... See http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
Edward Jaffe wrote: I'm just concerned that you're spending valuable time upgrading from an unsupported release to a release that becomes unsupported exactly three weeks from tomorrow... Mea Culpa! I mis-read the chart. You still have another year! Sorry... :-[ -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RES: Startup of All STCs After IPL
Yes, and a very effective SHUTDOWN too... Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254 - DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 R: 22021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 |-Mensagem original- |De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List |[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de John Kelly |Enviada em: terça-feira, 8 de setembro de 2009 13:49 |Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu |Assunto: Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL | |snip |Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the |start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from |IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: | |unsnip | |If you're 1.9+, the System REXX (AXR) might do it too. | |Jack Kelly |202-502-2390 (Office) | |-- |For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access |instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the |message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at |http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html | HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRAVISO LEGAL brEsta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRLEGAL ADVICE brThis message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
I appreciate your concern and I hold the same exact sentiment... I've been here for almost 3 years and changes can be very dramatic. I've just learned how to go with the flow... Besides, we've been holding our own when it comes to problems... Maybe we've just been very lucky that each time we run into a new situation, so has someone else and there's a fix available for us to apply. Thanks, George Rodriguez :-) Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL George Rodriguez wrote: The truth is that we just got off of v1.4... Not because of the system work that was required, but because of the testing that needed to be done by application support. There was a great deal of changes that were needed to go to v1.7 and to eliminate a double billing situation with 2 versions of CICS (v1.3 and v3.1). Now that we are done, the plan is to go to v1.9 and in a couple of years go to v1.10 or v1.11 (depending on how stable it is). I'm just concerned that you're spending valuable time upgrading from an unsupported release to a release that becomes unsupported exactly three weeks from tomorrow... See http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:35:28 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: George Rodriguez wrote: The truth is that we just got off of v1.4... Not because of the system work that was required, but because of the testing that needed to be done by application support. There was a great deal of changes that were needed to go to v1.7 and to eliminate a double billing situation with 2 versions of CICS (v1.3 and v3.1). Now that we are done, the plan is to go to v1.9 and in a couple of years go to v1.10 or v1.11 (depending on how stable it is). I'm just concerned that you're spending valuable time upgrading from an unsupported release to a release that becomes unsupported exactly three weeks from tomorrow... See http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html He still has another year. The problem we had in the past - when we installed every other release - was that we would end up finishing our roll outs close to the EOS date and sometimes going past if for some LPARs if there was an issue that delayed migration. Knowing that it can take a year for installation, testing and migration for some shops (and I think IBM knows this), I really wish IBM would revise the 3 year EOS policy to perhaps 3.5 years. Of course if IBM does that, someone else will want 4 years, but as it stands now if the policy is to install every other release you're always pushing towards that EOS date. Even if you have an install every release policy or intention to do so, something big like a data center move or consolidation often forces you to skip a release. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
At 14:13 -0500 on 09/08/2009, Mark Zelden wrote about Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL: On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:35:28 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: George Rodriguez wrote: The truth is that we just got off of v1.4... Not because of the system work that was required, but because of the testing that needed to be done by application support. There was a great deal of changes that were needed to go to v1.7 and to eliminate a double billing situation with 2 versions of CICS (v1.3 and v3.1). Now that we are done, the plan is to go to v1.9 and in a couple of years go to v1.10 or v1.11 (depending on how stable it is). I'm just concerned that you're spending valuable time upgrading from an unsupported release to a release that becomes unsupported exactly three weeks from tomorrow... See http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html He still has another year My question is why waste the time/effort to go to from v1.4 to v1.7 only to get one year of support when going to v1.8 would seem to be the same time/effort and would result in a number of years of support. It is not as if v1.8 was bleeding edge and thus a larger risk than v1.7. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL
There is VTAMAPPL. We use that, it has PAUSE nn etc. Use it to start all our STCs and put appropriate PAUSEs in the commands. Also used to automate shutdown. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:03 AM, George Rodriguezrodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us wrote: Hi Listeners, Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and here's it content: //IVPRDR PROC CLASS='X', DEFAULT SYSOUT CLASS IS A // M=DUMMY DEFAULT MEMBER IS BASE IVP JOBS //* LIB: IPO1.PROCLIB(IVPRDR) //* GDE: CBIPO MVS INSTALLATION //* DOC: THIS IPO PROCEDURE, WHEN STARTED WITH //* A MEMBER NAME (S IVPRDR,M=MEMBER), TAKES //* THE MEMBER FROM IPO1.IVPLIB AND SUBMITS //* THE JOB TO AN MVS INTERNAL READER. //* //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=IEBEDIT //SYSIN DD DUMMY //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD DDNAME=IEFRDER //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=(CLASS,INTRDR),DCB=BLKSIZE=80 //IEFRDER DD DSN=SYS2.IVPRDR.JCL(M), // DISP=SHR The member name that we use is called STARTUP and what's in it follows: /*$SLGN(*) /*$SLNE(1442-1450) /*$VS,'V 3400-34FF,OFFLINE' /*$VS,'-DSNPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNQSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DSNTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHPSTART DB2' /*$VS,'-DWHTSTART DB2' /*$VS,'S TCPIPMVS' /*$VS,'S ABENDAID' /*$VS,'S ADABASP' /*$VS,'S ADABAST' /*$VS,'S CAOMS' . . . /*$VS,'S XDSSPROC' /*$VS,'F RMF.RMF,S III' The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are you willing to share whatever you use? Thanks in advance... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332 .West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years -- --Palm Beach County Schools- Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005-2009 -Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School- ---http://www.palmbeachschools.org- The District of Palm Beach County is an Equal Education Opportunity Provider and Employer. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
