Re: JES2 NJE Security
Yes, we tried that, and on our test plexes, but to no avail. As you say, it can generate tons of output, but unfortunately nothing to explain the problem. We think now that different products use different ciphers to encrypt the session key, thus don't get the same answer. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Original Message From: Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 18:36 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: JES2 NJE Security -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- You might look at the $TDEBUG command in JES2. There is a parm that allows security messages to display from JES2. It is humongous - so do not leave it on too long. It can flood syslog (and spool) Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 1:30 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: JES2 NJE Security > > Classification: Public > That's exactly what we're doing - using the APPCLU class. We've asked CA, and > they're looking into it (I believe, that's the domain of the security folks), > but I wondered whether we're bleeding edge here or if anyone else had tried to > do it.. > > Andy Styles > z/Series Systems Programmer > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Walt Farrell > Sent: 03 December 2016 13:54 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: JES2 NJE Security > > -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- > > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:58:40 +, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) > wrote: > > >We're trying to put some security in place around JES2 NJE nodes, using the > SIGNON=SECURE option (on the NODE statement). We've got it working RACF to > RACF, but are having difficulty with a couple of other security managers, > where the password stored in RACF doesn't appear to be accepted by the other > ESM. > > > >Does anyone else have a mix of security managers, and use SIGNON=SECURE > successfully? > > Just to be clear, I think you're talking about configuring your NJE signon > security as described at > http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- > bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/has2a396/5.3.2.6?SHELF=all13be9&DT=20120815121029 > or > http://preview.tinyurl.com/jzbdwax > > I don't know if that will work with a mix of RACF and other security products. > If CA supports the use of APPCLU session keys and you've configured the non- > RACF systems according to the CA documentation, then I would expect it to > work. I have no idea, though, whether CA supports that function, nor how it > would be configured. You might need to contact CA for assistance. > > -- > Walt > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 NJE Security
Classification: Public That's exactly what we're doing - using the APPCLU class. We've asked CA, and they're looking into it (I believe, that's the domain of the security folks), but I wondered whether we're bleeding edge here or if anyone else had tried to do it.. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: 03 December 2016 13:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 NJE Security -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:58:40 +, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: >We're trying to put some security in place around JES2 NJE nodes, using the >SIGNON=SECURE option (on the NODE statement). We've got it working RACF to >RACF, but are having difficulty with a couple of other security managers, >where the password stored in RACF doesn't appear to be accepted by the other >ESM. > >Does anyone else have a mix of security managers, and use SIGNON=SECURE >successfully? Just to be clear, I think you're talking about configuring your NJE signon security as described at http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/has2a396/5.3.2.6?SHELF=all13be9&DT=20120815121029 or http://preview.tinyurl.com/jzbdwax I don't know if that will work with a mix of RACF and other security products. If CA supports the use of APPCLU session keys and you've configured the non-RACF systems according to the CA documentation, then I would expect it to work. I have no idea, though, whether CA supports that function, nor how it would be configured. You might need to contact CA for assistance. -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 NJE Security
Hmm, well its referred to as a session key that you can specify with expiry date, attempts before disabling and so on - and it works across all our RACF systems which have an interesting variety of userids for JES2. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer | Central Infrastructure Services | Infrastructure & Service Delivery | Group IT Emerald House | 25 Lavington Street | London | SE1 0NA Network: 7430 3374 | Office: 020 7922 3374 | email: andy.sty...@lloydsbanking.com Original Message From: Tom Marchant Sent: Friday, 2 December 2016 22:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: JES2 NJE Security -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:58:40 +, Styles, Andy wrote: >the password stored in RACF doesn't appear to be accepted by the other ESM. That's not surprising, since AFAIK, RACF doesn't store the password. IIRC, it uses the password as a key to encrypt the userid and stores that. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
JES2 NJE Security
Classification: Public Hi all, We're trying to put some security in place around JES2 NJE nodes, using the SIGNON=SECURE option (on the NODE statement). We've got it working RACF to RACF, but are having difficulty with a couple of other security managers, where the password stored in RACF doesn't appear to be accepted by the other ESM. Does anyone else have a mix of security managers, and use SIGNON=SECURE successfully? War stories welcomed too :) Thanks, Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rename in-process catalog issue
Classification: Public Might need to zap the catalog then.. We have TACM that can do that, and there are other products with the same capability. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: 29 November 2016 16:06 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rename in-process catalog issue -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- OP says that the volume does not exist any longer. I'm afraid that the JCL example would go into allocation and eventually fail. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 5:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Rename in-process catalog issue I see you found an answer, but did you try: //DD1 DD DISP=SHR,,UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=xx DEL 'dsn' NVR FILE(DD1) HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 11:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Rename in-process catalog issue I am looking at some nonvsam catalog entries that indicate that a rename has started. The problem is that the volume that the datasets used to reside on does not exist anymore. I have tried DELETE NOSCRATCH which indicates that a rename is in-process and to try ALTER .. ALTER won't work either. My understanding of the special non-supported IBM tool to fix weird issues with VVDS entries.. is that it won't help because I don't actually have a VVDS. Ideas? Rob Schramm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OS/VS COBOL - FD DCB vs JCL DCB
Yes, I agree it's a strange issue. The problem is that we - or rather they, as I'm just providing support and advice - don't know how how big the problem is until they've done the analysis and this is early stages, where they've hit enough problems to start asking questions. I suspect a lot of it is down to sloppy coding and QA practices - it works, that's enough. I understand the complexities around discovering the problems and so on, but wanted to find out whether anyone else had already done this and if so what their solution was. SMF records occurred to me as well, and that's something I plan to follow up. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Original Message From: Bill Woodger Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 17:56 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: OS/VS COBOL - FD DCB vs JCL DCB -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- It seems like a strange problem to affect a lot of programs (for instance, fixed-length in program, variable-length in the JCL). Assuming that all the OS/VS COBOL programs work, I think it would be reasonable to expect that all the Format 1 DSCBs match the definitions in the COBOL programs. To identify where any "DCB information" in the JCL does not match the program, it could be "simple" to match the DSN and DCB-info from the JCL to the DCB information from the "catalog". Not so simple, with symbols in DSNs, although depending on your naming conventions it may be possible to "normalise" the names for matching without relying on symbol-substitution. Accurately stripping DDs from JCL can be fun too. I'd assume mostly it will be DISP=NEW, perhaps some MOD, but note that any DISP=SHR/OLD with DCB-info you'll probably want to know what they are up to. You could then look to tie the DSNs to programs using SMF records. Assuming your programs are working (as OS/VS programs), I'd assume the fixes you are making are to the JCL, rather than to the programs themselves. I'm not sure you can do much scanning of the COBOL source to identify the issues. The COBOL programs are just writing (or reading) what they need to, it is the DCB-info in the JCL that can be "getting in the way". Is the task large enough for you to need to do someting? How many fixes have you needed, compared to how many have progressed without needing fixes, and how many programs you have in total? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OS/VS COBOL - FD DCB vs JCL DCB
Classification: Public We do have a source manager (Panvalet in this particular case), but this is a big-bang approach, so it's a bulk exercise rather than piece-meal. The CBT is a possibility, though I'll have to look at that from home as I'm prevented from downloading useful things like ZIP files from the internet at work! Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 14 November 2016 15:56 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OS/VS COBOL - FD DCB vs JCL DCB -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Are you using a source manager (Endevor, Changeman, home grown?) and could that be incorporated into the process? Or could you use ISPF Search function (batch or foreground)? Or use something like IPOUPDTE (just to scan not to update)? I think there are many options. Have you looked on CBTTAPE.ORG to see if there are any COBOL Source scanners? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 8:42 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: OS/VS COBOL - FD DCB vs JCL DCB > > Classification: Public > > Hi all, > > We are converting some archaic programs written in OS/VS COBOL to > Enterprise COBOL (only to v4 at present). One of the issues that we've > hit, well documented in the migration guide, is that some programs > have DCB information that differs to that used in the JCL. OS/VS COBOL > overrides any JCL DCB information transparently, whereas Enterprise > COBOL fails with an OPEN failure. > > Whilst we can fix any failures as we go, questions are being asked > whether we can perform any scanning across programs and JCL and > datasets to identify the impact up front. > > We can obviously write some REXX to scan various components, but has > anyone already done anything like this that they are willing to share > that would give us a head start? > > Many thanks, > > Andy Styles > z/Series Systems Programmer > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OS/VS COBOL - FD DCB vs JCL DCB
Classification: Public Well, that's part of the trouble - tying up programs to jobs to datasets and identifying things like whether the program has the file defined as FB, but the JCL as VB, or program as FB 80, JCL FB 90. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack J. Woehr Sent: 14 November 2016 15:46 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OS/VS COBOL - FD DCB vs JCL DCB -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: > We can obviously write some REXX to scan various components, but has anyone > already done anything like this that they are willing to share that would > give us a head start? > Can you just go to USS and Unix 'grep' the source for the offending declarations? -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
OS/VS COBOL - FD DCB vs JCL DCB
Classification: Public Hi all, We are converting some archaic programs written in OS/VS COBOL to Enterprise COBOL (only to v4 at present). One of the issues that we've hit, well documented in the migration guide, is that some programs have DCB information that differs to that used in the JCL. OS/VS COBOL overrides any JCL DCB information transparently, whereas Enterprise COBOL fails with an OPEN failure. Whilst we can fix any failures as we go, questions are being asked whether we can perform any scanning across programs and JCL and datasets to identify the impact up front. We can obviously write some REXX to scan various components, but has anyone already done anything like this that they are willing to share that would give us a head start? Many thanks, Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Default space allocation
Sure - but these are the settings: SPACE PRIMARY(10) SECONDARY(10) DIRECTORY(0) MEASURE(TRK) PRIM_ORG(ALX) NORLSE UNIT NAME(SYSALLDA) So I'm reading that as equivalent to SPACE=(TRK,(10,10)) by default, very different to the 45K tracks we saw yesterday. We have no EXITxx members. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 19 July 2016 16:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Default space allocation -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- That means you are taking defaults. So the Init and Tuning Reference will provide more info ALLOCxx (allocation system defaults) Use the ALLOCxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB to define installation defaults for: Unit names (dynamic allocation, unit-affinity-ignored, and redirection from TAPE) Space attributes TIOT size Handling allocation requests Catalog error policies. These installation defaults for handling allocation requests can be overridden by installation exit routines specified in the EXITxx parmlib member. For information about the allocation exit routines, see z/OS MVS Installation Exits. After IPL, use the SETALLOC command to change any of the defaults (except for 2DGT_EXPDT). Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:07 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Default space allocation > > I have, and it wasn't apparent in there that it would have the effect > we've seen. > > > Andy Styles > z/Series Systems Programmer > > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: 19 July 2016 15:49 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Default space allocation > > -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- > > > Have you checked out the ALLOCxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB (Or your version)? > > Lizette > > > -Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP > > zPlatform) > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:34 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Default space allocation > > > > Hi All, > > > > We've had a minor issue a few times over the past year or so. On our > > GDPS control systems, we have a null SMS configuration - all > > datasets are allocated with UNIT=SYSALLDA (I think I'm explaining > > this right), otherwise you get SPECIFY DEVICE OR CANCEL. > > > > The issue we seem to have hit is that people using XMIT/RECEIVE seem > > to allocate enormous datasets - one yesterday was 45K tracks, 1% > > used, which used up nearly all the free space on the volume, and > > caused another job to fail as it was unable to get the space it needed. > > > > I vaguely remember reading somewhere about default space allocation > > being something along the lines of "whatever space remains on the volume". > > > > Does this ring any bells with anyone, or am I just dreaming it? Can > > these parameters be changed, and if so, where? I've been hunting but > > can't track it down. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > -- > > Andy Styles > > z/Series Systems Programmer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS
Re: Default space allocation
I assume you meant ISMF; we don't have any data classes active on these systems. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: 19 July 2016 15:42 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Default space allocation -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- TSO ISPF I.4 DATACLAS column 8, 9, 10, 11(and 12 for PDS). On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) <00d68f765d25-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Hi All, > > We've had a minor issue a few times over the past year or so. On our GDPS > control systems, we have a null SMS configuration - all datasets are > allocated with UNIT=SYSALLDA (I think I'm explaining this right), otherwise > you get SPECIFY DEVICE OR CANCEL. > > The issue we seem to have hit is that people using XMIT/RECEIVE seem to > allocate enormous datasets - one yesterday was 45K tracks, 1% used, which > used up nearly all the free space on the volume, and caused another job to > fail as it was unable to get the space it needed. > > I vaguely remember reading somewhere about default space allocation being > something along the lines of "whatever space remains on the volume". > > Does this ring any bells with anyone, or am I just dreaming it? Can these > parameters be changed, and if so, where? I've been hunting but can't track it > down. > > Many thanks, > > -- > Andy Styles > z/Series Systems Programmer > > > Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 > 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. > Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V > 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. > Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. > Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. > Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, > Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. > Telephone: 0345 603 1637 > > Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential > Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and > Prudential Regulation Authority. > > Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial > Conduct Authority. > > Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester > Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. > > HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in > Scotland no. SC218813. > > This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may > contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, > please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) > immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the > information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or > recorded. > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received
Re: Default space allocation
I have, and it wasn't apparent in there that it would have the effect we've seen. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 19 July 2016 15:49 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Default space allocation -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Have you checked out the ALLOCxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB (Or your version)? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:34 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Default space allocation > > Hi All, > > We've had a minor issue a few times over the past year or so. On our > GDPS control systems, we have a null SMS configuration - all datasets > are allocated with UNIT=SYSALLDA (I think I'm explaining this right), > otherwise you get SPECIFY DEVICE OR CANCEL. > > The issue we seem to have hit is that people using XMIT/RECEIVE seem > to allocate enormous datasets - one yesterday was 45K tracks, 1% used, > which used up nearly all the free space on the volume, and caused > another job to fail as it was unable to get the space it needed. > > I vaguely remember reading somewhere about default space allocation > being something along the lines of "whatever space remains on the volume". > > Does this ring any bells with anyone, or am I just dreaming it? Can > these parameters be changed, and if so, where? I've been hunting but > can't track it down. > > Many thanks, > > -- > Andy Styles > z/Series Systems Programmer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Default space allocation
Hi All, We've had a minor issue a few times over the past year or so. On our GDPS control systems, we have a null SMS configuration - all datasets are allocated with UNIT=SYSALLDA (I think I'm explaining this right), otherwise you get SPECIFY DEVICE OR CANCEL. The issue we seem to have hit is that people using XMIT/RECEIVE seem to allocate enormous datasets - one yesterday was 45K tracks, 1% used, which used up nearly all the free space on the volume, and caused another job to fail as it was unable to get the space it needed. I vaguely remember reading somewhere about default space allocation being something along the lines of "whatever space remains on the volume". Does this ring any bells with anyone, or am I just dreaming it? Can these parameters be changed, and if so, where? I've been hunting but can't track it down. Many thanks, -- Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Knowledge Centre
Funny - this week, the icon has magically appeared :-) Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) Sent: 07 July 2016 16:11 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- It's not visible - if I mouse over the place I know it to be, a tool tip pops up to tell me that it expands/hides the TOC. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sue Shumway Sent: 07 July 2016 15:53 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Are you saying that the icon isn't visible at all on IE, or just as easy to miss as on any other browser? I opened http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2/en/homepage.html in both FF and IE, and they look technically the same on both, though I certainly realize that individual circumstances differ. Per https://kdp.amazon.com/help?topicId=A2GF0UFHIYG9VQ , Kindles currently support unzipped and validated ePubs and only those Mobis that are created with Amazon tools such as KindleGen. So, I believe that your Kindle, if you were in a pinch and had to use it, would be able to read a z/OS book in ePub format. It's a pretty widely-accepted format, and similar (even superior) to PDFs in many respects as long as you have a good reader. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. --
Re: AW: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre
Which platform doesn't support ePubs? I agree with comments others have made regarding consistent formatting of PDFs (at least, when the authors embed the fonts anyway), and the different aims of PDF vs e-reader formats (whatever they might be, excluding PDF!). I've got readers for Android, Windows and Linux. I don't have an Apple device so can't comment on OSX or iOS, but I'd be extremely surprised if there wasn't one. For my money, ePubs are usually smaller than their PDF counterparts. Like you, I don't really care one way or the other, but what I do want is an usable, fast, and intuitive interface to the manuals on the IBM site - I don't really have a need for manuals offline, because if I've got a connection to a mainframe, I'll have internet access as well. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: 08 July 2016 09:13 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Re: AW: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- >Just out of curiosity, if ePubs of z/OS books provided all the same >functionalities as PDFs (same technical content, same methods for >obtaining/saving, etc.), plus had added benefits such as visual scaling and >accessibility, would you still be so adamant about keeping PDFs? Basically I don't care what format is used, what I *do care* is that I want one format for which there is a reader on just about any platform. I do not want to keep the same book in different formats for different platforms. As a matter of fact, there are PDF readers available on all platforms (at least I now about Linux, iOS, OSX, Windows, Android). -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Knowledge Centre
It's not visible - if I mouse over the place I know it to be, a tool tip pops up to tell me that it expands/hides the TOC. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sue Shumway Sent: 07 July 2016 15:53 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Are you saying that the icon isn't visible at all on IE, or just as easy to miss as on any other browser? I opened http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2/en/homepage.html in both FF and IE, and they look technically the same on both, though I certainly realize that individual circumstances differ. Per https://kdp.amazon.com/help?topicId=A2GF0UFHIYG9VQ , Kindles currently support unzipped and validated ePubs and only those Mobis that are created with Amazon tools such as KindleGen. So, I believe that your Kindle, if you were in a pinch and had to use it, would be able to read a z/OS book in ePub format. It's a pretty widely-accepted format, and similar (even superior) to PDFs in many respects as long as you have a good reader. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
ISPF and Dataset alias usage
Hi All, You may recall that I asked some questions about identifying data alias usage; I was pointed at SMF14ALIAS, which came in with z/OS 2.1. z/OS 2.1 does indeed record alias usage, where the dataset in question is accessed via the alias. However, ISPF does NOT access the dataset via the alias, instead appearing to discover the real dataset and access that directly. I've raised an RFE to enhance ISPF to record this alias usage: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=91081 Vote if you like it :) Thanks, Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Knowledge Centre
From my point of view, that icon to open the TOC is not visible - I am forced to use IE at work without exception, so having something that doesn't work with it is a real pain. (IBM are not the only vendor that has trouble supporting IE!) I like the idea of ePubs or any ereader format. I can’t remember what works with the Kindle, but I seem to recall either mobi or epubs don't. Having said that, I'm not planning to read manuals on my Kindle... -- Andy Styles Original Message From: Sue Shumway Sent: Wednesday, 6 July 2016 19:42 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Sorry for coming late to this party. Let me address two items... ... but I miss the tree-driven system ... As others have pointed out in this thread, the new KC still has the tree structure TOC, same as in the old KC. It's just now closed by default. To display it on any page, click on the blue icon of five stacked irregular-length horizontal lines near the top left of the page. (FWIW, this and other potentially missable new features are explained in the short KC video tour that is linked on the KC main page - I *highly* recommend that all KC users, even IBMers, view it: http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/about/videotour.mp4 .) I read PDF's on my mobile all the time. Spend a lot of time swiping to expand 'em but sometimes you gotta have the answer right now. Yes, PDFs can be rough on a mobile. What do you think of ePubs instead? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Knowledge Centre
> Just don't try to use it with IE (up to IE11), use Firefox, Chrome or > whatever, just not IE. Damn. IE11 is all I've got (am allowed) on my work machine :( Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Knowledge Centre
Yep, in the original link you gave, that has everything I need. The search in KC, which provides links to pages in manuals it's found, appears to only provide the Data Areas manuals for 2.2. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Leopold Strauss Sent: 01 July 2016 11:32 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- I am not sure, what you want. But in the 2.1-link , which I sent you, I found the info in dataareas vol 4. Sorry, following is ex dataareas-vol4-pdf-files and therefore not pretty. It should only be a provement for you, that the info you want is there. IXLYAMDA Map Offsets Dec Hex Type/Value Len Name (Dim) Description 0 (0) STRUCTURE 0 IXLYAMDAREA Data area returned to caller 0 (0) SIGNED 4 IXLYAMDAREA_LENGTH Length of IXLYAMDAREA header mapping 4 (4) ADDRESS 4 IXLYAMDAREA_CFENT@ Address of first CF entry. A value of zero means that no CF entries were provided 8 (8) SIGNED 4 IXLYAMDAREA_TLEN Total length of output data area needed to contain all the requested information. This length includes the area for the records that WERE returned on this call. 12 (C) SIGNED 4 IXLYAMDAREA_#ENT Total number of entries of all kinds (not including the header) 16 (10) BITSTRING 1 IXLYAMDAREA_VERSION Version number - Maximum CFLEVEL supported by MVS on system where IXLMG was invoked. Can be used to determine if specific fields have valid information. See notes in prolog for more information 17 (11) CHARACTER 3 Unused 17 (11) X'14' 0 IXLYAMDAREA_LEN "*-IXLYAMDAREA" 626 z/OS V2R1 Data Areas Volume 4 (IRARMCTZ -LCT) IXLYAMDA Map Offsets Dec Hex Type/Value Len Name (Dim) Description 0 (0) STRUCTURE 0 IXLYAMDHD Common header mapping for IXLYAMDA entries 0 (0) BITSTRING 1 IXLYAMDHD_TYPE Type of entry 1 (1) CHARACTER 3 Unused 4 (4) SIGNED 4 IXLYAMDHD_LENGTH Length of entry 8 (8) ADDRESS 4 IXLYAMDHD_NEXT Address of next entry. Comment EntryTypes On 01.07.2016 12:05, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: > Sort of - the manuals where that search finds the information I'm looking for > appear to be for z/OS 2.2; the z/OS 2.1 ones (which is what I want) in that > list are the manuals for the IXLMG macro that I've already found (and they > simply refer back to the BookManager versions for the data areas!). > > > Andy Styles > z/Series Systems Programmer > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Patrick Hayward > Sent: 01 July 2016 10:57 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre > > -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- > > > Dies this help > http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/search/IXLYAMDA > > Patrick > Patrick Hayward, Code Magus Limited <http://www.codemagus.com> > (England reg. no. 4024745) Number 6, 69 Woodstock Road, Oxford, OX2 > 6EY, United Kingdom > *Voice:* +44 1844 208127 *Mobile:* +44 7711 273014 *Fax:* +44 1865 > 316979 > > > On 01/07/16 09:57, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: >> I'm curious about other people's views. >> >> I'm struggling to find anything I want in the Knowledge Centre these >> days. I'm finding that if I happen to stumble across a list of >> manuals that look something like the old BookManager bookshelf, I >> have to bookmark > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 > 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. > Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V > 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. > Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. > Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. > Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, > Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. > Telephone: 0345 603 1637 > > Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential > Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and > Prudential Regulation Authority. > > Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial > Conduct Authority. > > Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester > Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. > > HBOS plc. Registered
Re: IBM Knowledge Centre
Sort of - the manuals where that search finds the information I'm looking for appear to be for z/OS 2.2; the z/OS 2.1 ones (which is what I want) in that list are the manuals for the IXLMG macro that I've already found (and they simply refer back to the BookManager versions for the data areas!). Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Patrick Hayward Sent: 01 July 2016 10:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Dies this help http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/search/IXLYAMDA Patrick Patrick Hayward, Code Magus Limited <http://www.codemagus.com> (England reg. no. 4024745) Number 6, 69 Woodstock Road, Oxford, OX2 6EY, United Kingdom *Voice:* +44 1844 208127 *Mobile:* +44 7711 273014 *Fax:* +44 1865 316979 On 01/07/16 09:57, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: > I'm curious about other people's views. > > I'm struggling to find anything I want in the Knowledge Centre these > days. I'm finding that if I happen to stumble across a list of manuals > that look something like the old BookManager bookshelf, I have to > bookmark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Knowledge Centre
Thanks for that link! I find it incredibly frustrating that I couldn't find something like that myself using the links in KC, not through the apparent "search" facility! Thanks again. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Leopold Strauss Sent: 01 July 2016 10:03 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Knowledge Centre -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/v2r1pdf/#IEA. On 01.07.2016 10:57, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: > Data Areas -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind Regards, Leopold Strauss, Team DEV-zOS, T: +43-2236-27551-331 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM Knowledge Centre
I'm curious about other people's views. I'm struggling to find anything I want in the Knowledge Centre these days. I'm finding that if I happen to stumble across a list of manuals that look something like the old BookManager bookshelf, I have to bookmark it immediately for fear of never finding it again. I'm currently looking for the z/OS 2.1 MVS Data Areas manuals (specifically for IXLYAMDA) - back in the old days, it was easy.. now I can't find the damn things. To me, the KC is a big pile of steamy stuff, and isn't fit for purpose. I'm spending more time searching for the documentation than actually using it! Is it just me? Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild
Sadly we still have some 3380's defined. Don't gasp... Original Message From: Chuck Kreiter Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- We are actively eliminating mod-3's and mod-9's from our environment. Next DASD refresh will only have 27's and 54's. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we chose 3390-27? -- John Eells IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OA49422
This reminds me - some time ago, I posted a question about SMF records and aliases. A few people responded with the information about SMF storing that data in a additional field, added in (I think) z/OS 1.13. Subsequently, I've verified that JCL allocations do indeed record that information. ISPF, however, does something different - and I have an open PMR on this. The ISPF allocation routines (from my understanding) detect that you are attempting to access an alias, look up the real name in the catalog, and allocate that instead. The upshot is that browsing/editing/viewing datasets through their alias under ISPF fails to record the alias information in the SMF record - you only get the real dataset name. I've asked the question why, and it's apparently due to an APAR that was raised about 25 years ago whereby ISPF could use an incorrect dataset name. APAR was OY45166, which resolved several alias-related issues. OY44930 could also be involved. Just thought I'd fill you in :-) -- Andy Styles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 27 May 2016 21:10 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: OA49422 -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- OA49422: AUTOMATIC RECALL (VIA BROWSE IN ISPF) OF A NONVSAM ALIAS FAILS WITH ARC1010I Now fixed by PTF and verified. What the APAR doesn't bother to mention is that if JCL refers to the ALIAS, HSM successfully recalls the data set. I'm just curious why the behavior should be so different. Too many paths through Allocation? -- gil Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown
On Fri 06/05/2016 at 13:14, Tom Conley wrote: >> *BPXI056E OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST HAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY >> >> (why is that an 'E' level message?) >> > > "E" here is not "ERROR", it's "Eventual Action", which is the "F > OMVS,RESTART" command. Ah! Of course - I'd forgotten IBM use the same suffix to mean different things. I do find it odd, though, that this is considered that way - there's plenty of other address spaces that you might consider "eventual action" - RACF (or any other ESM) for example.. Thanks, -- Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown
Well, at the point we're shutting OMVS down, JES2 has already gone, and there are relatively very few address spaces left. This is an example: D A,L IEE114I 10.57.40 2016.126 ACTIVITY 726 JOBS M/STS USERSSYSASINITS ACTIVE/MAX VTAM OAS 0000100 0003600/0 3 LLA LLA LLA NSW S VLF VLF VLF NSW S EPWFFST FFST EPWFFST NSW S CNMPSSI CNMPSSI NETVIEW NSW S CNMPROC CNMPROC NETVIEW NSW SO GEOXCFST GEOXCFST RUN NSW S GEOXHSWP GEOXHSWP HIPERNSW S RACF RACF RACF NSW S DLF DLF DLF NSW S RRS RRS RRS NSW S Any D OMVS command appears to simply result in OMVS saying 'I told you, I'm shutting down' and nothing more. Very frustrating. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: 06 May 2016 09:06 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OMVS hang at system shutdown -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Styles, Andy wrote: >*BPXI056E OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST HAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY > (why is that an 'E' level message?) Good catch! > ... Obviously the thing to do here is take a dump and open a PMR, but we > haven't yet seen the issue since we decided to do that. I just wondered > whether anyone had seen this before. OMVS is particularly unhelpful once it's > accepted the shutdown request - all it tells you from then on is just 'OMVS > IS SHUTTING DOWN' no matter what you ask it. Not me, but then I could have missed that. ;-) What do you see if you issue D OMVS,W (for what is it waiting?) Do also D OMVS,A=ALL and D OMVS,F and perhaps D OMVS,O? Oh, check D OMVS,SO too. While the OMVS is getting down, just do a D A,L? Perhaps something (cleanup work or backup of something?) popped up during that shutdown of OMVS. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
OMVS hang at system shutdown
Morning all, We have noticed an intermittent OMVS shutdown problem, possibly since going to z/OS 2.1, though I'm not willing to bet on that. The general scenario is that almost all of the system is down, and we're into stopping OMVS. Systems automation then issues a stop to OMVS: F OMVS,SHUTDOWN BPXI055I OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST ACCEPTED and in the particular syslog I'm looking at we get a *BPXI064E OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST DELAYED briefly, before: D OMVS BPXO042I 10.57.34 DISPLAY OMVS 724 OMVS 0010 SHUTTING DOWN 0 Which proceeds in an orderly fashion: D OMVS BPXO042I 10.58.04 DISPLAY OMVS 741 OMVS 0010 SHUTTING DOWN 1 D OMVS BPXO042I 10.58.14 DISPLAY OMVS 755 OMVS 0010 SHUTTING DOWN 13 and then: *BPXI056E OMVS SHUTDOWN REQUEST HAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY (why is that an 'E' level message?) and finally: D OMVS BPXO042I 10.58.34 DISPLAY OMVS 786 OMVS 0010 SHUTDOWN However, intermittently, we don't get past the 'SHUTTING DOWN' message, and the "progress counter" (out of what?) stops incrementing, so each display of OMVS shows: OMVS 0010 SHUTTING DOWN 13 Ad infinitum (well, maybe not infinite, but we have left it for at least 20 minutes). Obviously the thing to do here is take a dump and open a PMR, but we haven't yet seen the issue since we decided to do that. I just wondered whether anyone had seen this before. OMVS is particularly unhelpful once it's accepted the shutdown request - all it tells you from then on is just 'OMVS IS SHUTTING DOWN' no matter what you ask it. There's probably a raft of information I've left out that would be needed to begin to answer this! Thanks, -- Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ISPF Anomaly: ISPP352
Some other options - you may have explored all these already: Does the user logon with a logon proc that allows him/her to allocate their own libraries ahead of the 'site' ones? Does that panel exist in one of their libraries, or another library you weren't expecting ahead of where it's meant to come from? If you rename their ISPF profile dataset and let them start with a completely fresh one, does it still happen? (You can always rename it back after to let them have their preferred set up back). Could you copy their ISPF profile to yours (renaming yours out of the way first) to get the issue? Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: 23 March 2016 20:05 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF Anomaly: ISPP352 -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- On 03/23/2016 03:39 PM, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: > Wild stab in the dark - is the window size defined by a variable that's > somehow overwritten by another application using the same variable name? > No. It is just this simple: )BODY WINDOW(74,30) EXPAND(\\) Only the variables we collect are, well, variables. We don't use variables to control size of pop-ups or location. So this is why this is baffling to me. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ISPF Anomaly: ISPP352
Wild stab in the dark - is the window size defined by a variable that's somehow overwritten by another application using the same variable name? I've see a few applications that appear to use the same-named ISPF variables, and thus clash when they overwrite each other's variable - the solution is of course to use an application specific profile if you want to store variables (I'm not going to mention applications that store the screen in a variable that becomes too big for the code to handle at my 82x160 screen size - actually, I suppose that should be 160x82 given "x by y"..). Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: 23 March 2016 16:05 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ISPF Anomaly: ISPP352 -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- We are having a bit of a problem with a "pop-up" panel in ISPF. It hasn't been modified for many months, and now today I am getting a report from a user that it is causing the following MSG: ISPP352 Panel '' error - Invalid window depth value (must be numeric, > 0, less than screen depth). I have had this user change their TN3270 geometry and it has no effect (from MOD4 to 160 wide by 62 deep). I am unable to recreate their problem, and I've been working on this application for over a year and haven't seen this before. I have found a few APARs for it, but their circumvention has been to use other than MOD2 (these are IBM panel issues). This is ISPF 7.1, z/OS 2.1. I even had them change their 3270 definition in =0 to be the same as mine, and go to TSO ready and back into ISPF, and it had NO effect. All of this ISPF application has been tested with a MOD3 (we specifically check for less than that and refuse to initialize the application in that case). I have tried IBMLINK searches and I just don't find anything. The window is set to (74,30). So that is 74 wide and 30 lines deep. And SPLIT is not in use, so that does not appear to be the problem. I'm open to diagnostic suggestions. I just don't have time to do an SR for this, because I'm at the end of this project and am going over to the dark side (z/VM). Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IEBCOPY abended with IEW2756S-d606
Ah, I've probably been remiss here, but I raised a PMR with IBM on this issue in October - as a result, they PE'd UA76032 and UA76033. Apparently the changes to IEBCOPY were to aid in the migration to COBOL5 and the requirement that COBOL5 executables must be program objects. The APAR is OA49081. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Anthony Fletcher Sent: 12 March 2016 23:58 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEBCOPY abended with IEW2756S-d606 -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- If that was intended to be advice to people on this list that this problem exists, then Thank You. Otherwise, if you want a real answer raise a Service Request with IBM since it is clearly a Defect, then in due course you can advise listers what the APAR number is. Tommy Tsui said Hi all, Why iebcopy to pdse datasets abended with iew2756s-d609 Space is not available on direct access storage, b37-04 but the final return code equal 0, when we copy 100 members only 90 copied, 10 members are missing, but return code=0, anyway the final return code not equal zero -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
I have used 84x160 (under PComm) and now we've been migrated to Attachmate's Reflection 2014, I use 82x160, because Attachmate's font handling isn't quite as good as PComm - although it offers a wider choice. Both in PComm and in Reflection, I remove all the window decorations (using the TouchUX and Windows Full Screen in Reflection) and have the Windows task bar auto-hide to give me a very retro 100% full screen mainframe view. Makes the font sizes larger too - I've said to a number of people who comment on the font size that it's no smaller than most Word docs or email messages.. My one bugbear is products that don't support screen sizes greater than 24x80 - someone mentioned Control-M, and that was certainly one of them that causes me issues. Xpediter/TSO is another, I had to raise an issue with Compuware because it corrupted my display with a large screen, so they wrote a fix...which prevents you starting Xpediter if your screens size is bigger than 62x160 - No, that's not what I wanted Compuware! Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: 10 March 2016 13:46 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real estate for todays customer. I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. What screen size do you use? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Alias usage is reported in SMF14ALIAS added in z/OS 2.2
Actually, it looks like that came in with 2.1: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA42406 However, the record type description suggests it's only for tape datasets. Andy Styles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) Sent: 11 November 2015 14:16 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Alias usage is reported in SMF14ALIAS added in z/OS 2.2 -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Thanks for that information - we've not yet got to 2.1 (although a couple of systems have it), so it might be some time before I can use that - but it's good to know it's coming. Thanks to everyone else for the suggestions. The only way that I can see we can do it at present is to create a copy of the real datasets under their alias name, and track usage of that. Uggh. Maybe 2.2 is worth waiting for :-) Andy Styles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barry Merrill Sent: 10 November 2015 20:51 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FW: Alias usage is reported in SMF14ALIAS added in z/OS 2.2 -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Nothing like forgetting to read your own recent changes. The Alias Name, SMF14ALIAS, was added to the SMF 14/15 records in z/OS 2.2. I typo'ed the name in the KEEP list in MXG as SMR14ALIAS (now corrected) which caused the variable to be not kept and hence missed when I re-checked for SMF and ALIAS before posting my incorrect earlier posting. Merrilly yours, Barry Herbert W. "Barry" Merrill, PhD President-Programmer MXG Software Merrill Consultants 10717 Cromwell Drive Dallas, TX 75229-5112 ba...@mxg.com Fax: 214 350 3694 - Still works, received as email Tel: 214 351 1966 - Unreliable, please use email www.mxg.comHomePage: FAQ answers most questions ad...@mxg.com License Forms, Invoice, Payment, ftp information supp...@mxg.comTechnical Issues MXG-L FREE ListServer http://www.mxg.com/mxg-l_listserver/ -Original Message- From: Barry Merrill [mailto:ba...@mxg.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:06 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: Alias usage The only appearance in SMF of the Alias name is in the SMF 42 subtypes 21 and 24 for delete member alias and delete alias events. Barry Herbert W. "Barry" Merrill, PhD President-Programmer MXG Software Merrill Consultants 10717 Cromwell Drive Dallas, TX 75229-5112 ba...@mxg.com Fax: 214 350 3694 - Still works, received as email Tel: 214 351 1966 - Unreliable, please use email www.mxg.comHomePage: FAQ answers most questions ad...@mxg.com License Forms, Invoice, Payment, ftp information supp...@mxg.comTechnical Issues MXG-L FREE ListServer http://www.mxg.com/mxg-l_listserver/ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Alias usage Hi all, Does anyone know of a way to track usage of dataset alias usage? We have quite a number of datasets with that have historic aliases which could do with tidying up - but I don't want to remove any aliases until I'm comfortable that I'm not going to break anything that has them coded (for example) in JCL. I've looked at SMF, and it only appears to record the real dataset name, not the alias. Any ideas? Thanks, -- Andy Styles Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, d
Re: Alias usage is reported in SMF14ALIAS added in z/OS 2.2
Thanks for that information - we've not yet got to 2.1 (although a couple of systems have it), so it might be some time before I can use that - but it's good to know it's coming. Thanks to everyone else for the suggestions. The only way that I can see we can do it at present is to create a copy of the real datasets under their alias name, and track usage of that. Uggh. Maybe 2.2 is worth waiting for :-) Andy Styles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barry Merrill Sent: 10 November 2015 20:51 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FW: Alias usage is reported in SMF14ALIAS added in z/OS 2.2 -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- Nothing like forgetting to read your own recent changes. The Alias Name, SMF14ALIAS, was added to the SMF 14/15 records in z/OS 2.2. I typo'ed the name in the KEEP list in MXG as SMR14ALIAS (now corrected) which caused the variable to be not kept and hence missed when I re-checked for SMF and ALIAS before posting my incorrect earlier posting. Merrilly yours, Barry Herbert W. "Barry" Merrill, PhD President-Programmer MXG Software Merrill Consultants 10717 Cromwell Drive Dallas, TX 75229-5112 ba...@mxg.com Fax: 214 350 3694 - Still works, received as email Tel: 214 351 1966 - Unreliable, please use email www.mxg.comHomePage: FAQ answers most questions ad...@mxg.com License Forms, Invoice, Payment, ftp information supp...@mxg.comTechnical Issues MXG-L FREE ListServer http://www.mxg.com/mxg-l_listserver/ -Original Message- From: Barry Merrill [mailto:ba...@mxg.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:06 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: Alias usage The only appearance in SMF of the Alias name is in the SMF 42 subtypes 21 and 24 for delete member alias and delete alias events. Barry Herbert W. "Barry" Merrill, PhD President-Programmer MXG Software Merrill Consultants 10717 Cromwell Drive Dallas, TX 75229-5112 ba...@mxg.com Fax: 214 350 3694 - Still works, received as email Tel: 214 351 1966 - Unreliable, please use email www.mxg.comHomePage: FAQ answers most questions ad...@mxg.com License Forms, Invoice, Payment, ftp information supp...@mxg.comTechnical Issues MXG-L FREE ListServer http://www.mxg.com/mxg-l_listserver/ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Alias usage Hi all, Does anyone know of a way to track usage of dataset alias usage? We have quite a number of datasets with that have historic aliases which could do with tidying up - but I don't want to remove any aliases until I'm comfortable that I'm not going to break anything that has them coded (for example) in JCL. I've looked at SMF, and it only appears to record the real dataset name, not the alias. Any ideas? Thanks, -- Andy Styles Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds
Alias usage
Hi all, Does anyone know of a way to track usage of dataset alias usage? We have quite a number of datasets with that have historic aliases which could do with tidying up - but I don't want to remove any aliases until I'm comfortable that I'm not going to break anything that has them coded (for example) in JCL. I've looked at SMF, and it only appears to record the real dataset name, not the alias. Any ideas? Thanks, -- Andy Styles Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
