Re: BookManager

2023-03-20 Thread Anthony L. Zak
,l/s/ Anthony L. Zak6iwjj 
 Original message From: Bernd Oppolzer 
 Date: 3/20/23  12:40  (GMT-05:00) To: 
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] BookManager I would like to 
thank all who responded and tell you about the solution we found.First of all, 
with some support from somewhere, we managed to re-install the BookManager 
softwareon the z/OS 2.5 system - unsupported / as-is. This, at least, allows us 
to read the books temporarilyand to start the conversion from here.Then I 
copied the needed books (some hundred) to Bookmaster GML format, which can be 
donefrom inside READ/MVS. The MVS (or z/OS) version converts complete books to 
Bookmaster GML,not only single paragraphs. The Bookmaster files (which are 
textfiles in the end) then were movedto a PC (using text FTP).Then I used B2H 
(the Windows variant) to create HTML from the Bookmaster files. I changed 
theB2H REXX a little bit, so that all texts are enclosed in  tags; this 
way the line breaks etc.from the original documents are preserved.Task 
completed :-)Some additional remarks:the internal layout of the .BOO files is 
not usable and very difficult; 4096 byte segments, word fragmentsin EBCDIC, 
maybe some sort of linked list or tree structure. I spent some time trying to 
understand this,but no success.I also tried to find the Bookmaster sources - as 
suggested by some posters - at my customer's sitefor the books, which were 
present in the "production" bookshelves, but also no success;the sources were 
partially lost and the people responsible for the books have retired.So it was 
best to retrieve the Bookmaster sources from the books directly.Kind 
regardsBerndAm 28.02.2023 um 18:59 schrieb Bernd Oppolzer:> What is the 
preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?>> My customer has some 
home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access> after the z/OS migration 
(BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).>> We managed to transfer the books 
to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can> at least look at the books. Now I 
would like to convert the books to > PDFs.> But the free Softcopy Reader 
refuses to print more than one (selected) > topic> or ranges of topics; if you 
try to do this using the print menu > (selected or range),> the output is 
always empty.>> Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not 
allowed in > the free version?> What are the options?>> The eMail address 
book...@us.ibm.com, which is mentioned in the > Softcopy Reader> help texts, 
doesn't exist any more (BTW: the Softcopy Reader is a 2012 > edition;> this 
seems to be the last one available).>> Is there a documented API to read the 
books using a C or REXX program> and build the PDFs this way? Or build HTML 
from the books?>> Thanks for all suggestions,> kind regards>> 
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Re: BookManager

2023-03-20 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
I would like to thank all who responded and tell you about the solution 
we found.


First of all, with some support from somewhere, we managed to re-install 
the BookManager software
on the z/OS 2.5 system - unsupported / as-is. This, at least, allows us 
to read the books temporarily

and to start the conversion from here.

Then I copied the needed books (some hundred) to Bookmaster GML format, 
which can be done
from inside READ/MVS. The MVS (or z/OS) version converts complete books 
to Bookmaster GML,
not only single paragraphs. The Bookmaster files (which are textfiles in 
the end) then were moved

to a PC (using text FTP).

Then I used B2H (the Windows variant) to create HTML from the Bookmaster 
files. I changed the
B2H REXX a little bit, so that all texts are enclosed in  tags; 
this way the line breaks etc.

from the original documents are preserved.

Task completed :-)

Some additional remarks:

the internal layout of the .BOO files is not usable and very difficult; 
4096 byte segments, word fragments
in EBCDIC, maybe some sort of linked list or tree structure. I spent 
some time trying to understand this,

but no success.

I also tried to find the Bookmaster sources - as suggested by some 
posters - at my customer's site
for the books, which were present in the "production" bookshelves, but 
also no success;
the sources were partially lost and the people responsible for the books 
have retired.

So it was best to retrieve the Bookmaster sources from the books directly.

Kind regards

Bernd


Am 28.02.2023 um 18:59 schrieb Bernd Oppolzer:

What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?

My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access
after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).

We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can
at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to 
PDFs.
But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected) 
topic
or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu 
(selected or range),

the output is always empty.

Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in 
the free version?

What are the options?

The eMail address book...@us.ibm.com, which is mentioned in the 
Softcopy Reader
help texts, doesn't exist any more (BTW: the Softcopy Reader is a 2012 
edition;

this seems to be the last one available).

Is there a documented API to read the books using a C or REXX program
and build the PDFs this way? Or build HTML from the books?

Thanks for all suggestions,
kind regards

Bernd





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Re: BookManager

2023-03-06 Thread Schmitt, Michael
If you had the original source of the documents, you could format to PostScript 
(DEV(PSA), then convert the PostScript to PDF using Adobe Acrobat or 
equivalent. You'd need to download the BookMaster fonts.

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Roger Bolan
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 5:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: BookManager

The BookManager format (on z/OS at least) is a special output format from
the DCF (Document Composition Facility) SCRIPT command.  With OS/390
Softcopy Print you could print from the BookManager books but I never
thought the results were really great.  If you have the original source
text which will be in BookMaster, Starter GML, or just Script commands
format, I would start from there.

If it were me, and I had the original source for the documents I would
reformat them with DCF using the BookMaster profile and macro library (if
you still have it around), or the Starter Set GML profile and macro
library.  I would output to a DEV(AFPA) or DEV(AFP2A) format and then use
the afpxpdf transform that comes with the "IBM Print Transforms from
AFP" product that works with the Infoprint Server component of z/OS to
transform the AFP format to PDF.

If going from the BookManager format is your only option, the results are
going to be not as nice and more work.  If you can only convert a topic at
a time to PDF then maybe you could assemble them back into a PDF book with
Adobe Acrobat.  I don't have any experience with that.
--Roger





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Re: BookManager

2023-03-06 Thread Colin Paice
I blogged  Copying pages out of PDF files to make mini books.  This uses pdftk
package <https://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/> on Linux to
extract pages from  pdf - and appending pdf documents into a big document.

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 at 21:19, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> AFAIK, IBM used the BookManager BUILD tag set, which is a superset of
> BookMaster. Note that the PC versions of BookManager BUILD were totally
> different and did not support Script input.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of Roger Bolan [rogerbo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 6:51 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: BookManager
>
> The BookManager format (on z/OS at least) is a special output format from
> the DCF (Document Composition Facility) SCRIPT command.  With OS/390
> Softcopy Print you could print from the BookManager books but I never
> thought the results were really great.  If you have the original source
> text which will be in BookMaster, Starter GML, or just Script commands
> format, I would start from there.
>
> If it were me, and I had the original source for the documents I would
> reformat them with DCF using the BookMaster profile and macro library (if
> you still have it around), or the Starter Set GML profile and macro
> library.  I would output to a DEV(AFPA) or DEV(AFP2A) format and then use
> the afpxpdf transform that comes with the "IBM Print Transforms from
> AFP" product that works with the Infoprint Server component of z/OS to
> transform the AFP format to PDF.
>
> If going from the BookManager format is your only option, the results are
> going to be not as nice and more work.  If you can only convert a topic at
> a time to PDF then maybe you could assemble them back into a PDF book with
> Adobe Acrobat.  I don't have any experience with that.
> --Roger
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 2:04 PM Dave Wade  wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 18:59:09 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer <
> > bernd.oppol...@t-online.de> wrote:
> >
> > >What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?
> > >
> > >My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot
> access
> > >after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).
> > >
> > >We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we
> can
> > >at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to
> PDFs.
> > >But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected)
> > >topic
> > >or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu
> > >(selected or range),
> > >the output is always empty.
> > >
> > >Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in
> > >the free version?
> > >What are the options?
> > >
> >
> > The old "ILRWIN" product will let you print an entire book, but I think
> > its a16 bit application..
> > So:-
> >
> > 1. Find a machine with a 32-bit copy of Windows installed and the 16-bit
> > DVM installed.
> >  > you run 16-bit app in 64-bit windows here:-
> >
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fotya128%2Fwinevdm%2Freleases%2Ftag%2Fv0.8.0=05%7C01%7Csmetz3%40gmu.edu%7C6943f52e36c842e5e10208db1c423d12%7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb%7C0%7C0%7C638134843053542272%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=54C8LC4IRUycWvMyCj5MjYxozYd%2F5U9fNZUmPJ%2BB%2BTk%3D=0
> >
> >
> > 2. Find an old documentation CD or similar with the old "Book Manager
> Read
> > for Windows".
> > I found a copy on the PCOMMS 5.4 CD in the \win\install\ilrwin folder.
> >
> > 3. Open the book and print using a PDF print driver. Microsoft include
> one
> > with recent Windows.
> > FOXIT PDF viewer has one for older windows.
> >
> > I hope this is helpfull
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > >Thanks for all suggestions,
> > >kind regards
> > >
> > >Bernd
> > >
> >
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Re: BookManager

2023-03-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
AFAIK, IBM used the BookManager BUILD tag set, which is a superset of 
BookMaster. Note that the PC versions of BookManager BUILD were totally 
different and did not support Script input.


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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


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Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 6:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: BookManager

The BookManager format (on z/OS at least) is a special output format from
the DCF (Document Composition Facility) SCRIPT command.  With OS/390
Softcopy Print you could print from the BookManager books but I never
thought the results were really great.  If you have the original source
text which will be in BookMaster, Starter GML, or just Script commands
format, I would start from there.

If it were me, and I had the original source for the documents I would
reformat them with DCF using the BookMaster profile and macro library (if
you still have it around), or the Starter Set GML profile and macro
library.  I would output to a DEV(AFPA) or DEV(AFP2A) format and then use
the afpxpdf transform that comes with the "IBM Print Transforms from
AFP" product that works with the Infoprint Server component of z/OS to
transform the AFP format to PDF.

If going from the BookManager format is your only option, the results are
going to be not as nice and more work.  If you can only convert a topic at
a time to PDF then maybe you could assemble them back into a PDF book with
Adobe Acrobat.  I don't have any experience with that.
--Roger

On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 2:04 PM Dave Wade  wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 18:59:09 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer <
> bernd.oppol...@t-online.de> wrote:
>
> >What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?
> >
> >My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access
> >after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).
> >
> >We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can
> >at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to PDFs.
> >But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected)
> >topic
> >or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu
> >(selected or range),
> >the output is always empty.
> >
> >Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in
> >the free version?
> >What are the options?
> >
>
> The old "ILRWIN" product will let you print an entire book, but I think
> its a16 bit application..
> So:-
>
> 1. Find a machine with a 32-bit copy of Windows installed and the 16-bit
> DVM installed.
>  you run 16-bit app in 64-bit windows here:-
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fotya128%2Fwinevdm%2Freleases%2Ftag%2Fv0.8.0=05%7C01%7Csmetz3%40gmu.edu%7C6943f52e36c842e5e10208db1c423d12%7C9e857255df574c47a0c00546460380cb%7C0%7C0%7C638134843053542272%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=54C8LC4IRUycWvMyCj5MjYxozYd%2F5U9fNZUmPJ%2BB%2BTk%3D=0
>  >
>
> 2. Find an old documentation CD or similar with the old "Book Manager Read
> for Windows".
> I found a copy on the PCOMMS 5.4 CD in the \win\install\ilrwin folder.
>
> 3. Open the book and print using a PDF print driver. Microsoft include one
> with recent Windows.
> FOXIT PDF viewer has one for older windows.
>
> I hope this is helpfull
>
> Dave
>
> >Thanks for all suggestions,
> >kind regards
> >
> >Bernd
> >
>
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Re: BookManager

2023-03-03 Thread Roger Bolan
The BookManager format (on z/OS at least) is a special output format from
the DCF (Document Composition Facility) SCRIPT command.  With OS/390
Softcopy Print you could print from the BookManager books but I never
thought the results were really great.  If you have the original source
text which will be in BookMaster, Starter GML, or just Script commands
format, I would start from there.

If it were me, and I had the original source for the documents I would
reformat them with DCF using the BookMaster profile and macro library (if
you still have it around), or the Starter Set GML profile and macro
library.  I would output to a DEV(AFPA) or DEV(AFP2A) format and then use
the afpxpdf transform that comes with the "IBM Print Transforms from
AFP" product that works with the Infoprint Server component of z/OS to
transform the AFP format to PDF.

If going from the BookManager format is your only option, the results are
going to be not as nice and more work.  If you can only convert a topic at
a time to PDF then maybe you could assemble them back into a PDF book with
Adobe Acrobat.  I don't have any experience with that.
--Roger

On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 2:04 PM Dave Wade  wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 18:59:09 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer <
> bernd.oppol...@t-online.de> wrote:
>
> >What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?
> >
> >My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access
> >after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).
> >
> >We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can
> >at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to PDFs.
> >But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected)
> >topic
> >or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu
> >(selected or range),
> >the output is always empty.
> >
> >Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in
> >the free version?
> >What are the options?
> >
>
> The old "ILRWIN" product will let you print an entire book, but I think
> its a16 bit application..
> So:-
>
> 1. Find a machine with a 32-bit copy of Windows installed and the 16-bit
> DVM installed.
>  you run 16-bit app in 64-bit windows here:-
> https://github.com/otya128/winevdm/releases/tag/v0.8.0 >
>
> 2. Find an old documentation CD or similar with the old "Book Manager Read
> for Windows".
> I found a copy on the PCOMMS 5.4 CD in the \win\install\ilrwin folder.
>
> 3. Open the book and print using a PDF print driver. Microsoft include one
> with recent Windows.
> FOXIT PDF viewer has one for older windows.
>
> I hope this is helpfull
>
> Dave
>
> >Thanks for all suggestions,
> >kind regards
> >
> >Bernd
> >
>
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Re: BookManager

2023-03-03 Thread Dave Wade
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 18:59:09 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer  
wrote:

>What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?
>
>My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access
>after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).
>
>We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can
>at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to PDFs.
>But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected)
>topic
>or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu
>(selected or range),
>the output is always empty.
>
>Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in
>the free version?
>What are the options?
>

The old "ILRWIN" product will let you print an entire book, but I think its a16 
bit application..
So:-

1. Find a machine with a 32-bit copy of Windows installed and the 16-bit DVM 
installed. 
https://github.com/otya128/winevdm/releases/tag/v0.8.0 >

2. Find an old documentation CD or similar with the old "Book Manager Read for 
Windows". 
I found a copy on the PCOMMS 5.4 CD in the \win\install\ilrwin folder.

3. Open the book and print using a PDF print driver. Microsoft include one with 
recent Windows.
FOXIT PDF viewer has one for older windows.

I hope this is helpfull

Dave

>Thanks for all suggestions,
>kind regards
>
>Bernd
>

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Re: BookManager

2023-03-01 Thread Martin Packer
s/was/is 

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Roger Bolan 
Date: Wednesday, 1 March 2023 at 01:07
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: BookManager
The B2H tool was BookMaster source to  HTML, not BookManager

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 11:19 AM Colin Paice  wrote:

> There is a very old B2H package which I think is Rexx based.  It was
> supported on Windows NT, OS2, VM, OS390 etc,
> I think I used to use it.  It is mentioned
> http://afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.rs/~ivica/b2h.html
> Colin
>
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 18:00, Bernd Oppolzer 
> wrote:
>
> > What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?
> >
> > My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access
> > after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).
> >
> > We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can
> > at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to
> PDFs.
> > But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected)
> > topic
> > or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu
> > (selected or range),
> > the output is always empty.
> >
> > Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in
> > the free version?
> > What are the options?
> >
> > The eMail address book...@us.ibm.com, which is mentioned in the Softcopy
> > Reader
> > help texts, doesn't exist any more (BTW: the Softcopy Reader is a 2012
> > edition;
> > this seems to be the last one available).
> >
> > Is there a documented API to read the books using a C or REXX program
> > and build the PDFs this way? Or build HTML from the books?
> >
> > Thanks for all suggestions,
> > kind regards
> >
> > Bernd
> >
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Re: BookManager

2023-03-01 Thread Martin Packer
B2H does BookMASTER to HTML, not BookManager to PDF. (And, yes, HTML to PDF is 
probably trivial for most people.)

I use B2H on TSO in Batch almost daily, FWIW.

Cheers, Martin

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Colin Paice 
Date: Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 18:19
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: BookManager
There is a very old B2H package which I think is Rexx based.  It was
supported on Windows NT, OS2, VM, OS390 etc,
I think I used to use it.  It is mentioned
http://afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.rs/~ivica/b2h.html
Colin

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 18:00, Bernd Oppolzer 
wrote:

> What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?
>
> My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access
> after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).
>
> We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can
> at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to PDFs.
> But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected)
> topic
> or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu
> (selected or range),
> the output is always empty.
>
> Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in
> the free version?
> What are the options?
>
> The eMail address book...@us.ibm.com, which is mentioned in the Softcopy
> Reader
> help texts, doesn't exist any more (BTW: the Softcopy Reader is a 2012
> edition;
> this seems to be the last one available).
>
> Is there a documented API to read the books using a C or REXX program
> and build the PDFs this way? Or build HTML from the books?
>
> Thanks for all suggestions,
> kind regards
>
> Bernd
>
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Re: BookManager

2023-02-28 Thread Roger Bolan
The B2H tool was BookMaster source to  HTML, not BookManager

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 11:19 AM Colin Paice  wrote:

> There is a very old B2H package which I think is Rexx based.  It was
> supported on Windows NT, OS2, VM, OS390 etc,
> I think I used to use it.  It is mentioned
> http://afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.rs/~ivica/b2h.html
> Colin
>
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 18:00, Bernd Oppolzer 
> wrote:
>
> > What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?
> >
> > My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access
> > after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).
> >
> > We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can
> > at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to
> PDFs.
> > But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected)
> > topic
> > or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu
> > (selected or range),
> > the output is always empty.
> >
> > Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in
> > the free version?
> > What are the options?
> >
> > The eMail address book...@us.ibm.com, which is mentioned in the Softcopy
> > Reader
> > help texts, doesn't exist any more (BTW: the Softcopy Reader is a 2012
> > edition;
> > this seems to be the last one available).
> >
> > Is there a documented API to read the books using a C or REXX program
> > and build the PDFs this way? Or build HTML from the books?
> >
> > Thanks for all suggestions,
> > kind regards
> >
> > Bernd
> >
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Re: BookManager

2023-02-28 Thread Colin Paice
There is a very old B2H package which I think is Rexx based.  It was
supported on Windows NT, OS2, VM, OS390 etc,
I think I used to use it.  It is mentioned
http://afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.rs/~ivica/b2h.html
Colin

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 18:00, Bernd Oppolzer 
wrote:

> What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?
>
> My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access
> after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).
>
> We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can
> at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to PDFs.
> But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected)
> topic
> or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu
> (selected or range),
> the output is always empty.
>
> Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in
> the free version?
> What are the options?
>
> The eMail address book...@us.ibm.com, which is mentioned in the Softcopy
> Reader
> help texts, doesn't exist any more (BTW: the Softcopy Reader is a 2012
> edition;
> this seems to be the last one available).
>
> Is there a documented API to read the books using a C or REXX program
> and build the PDFs this way? Or build HTML from the books?
>
> Thanks for all suggestions,
> kind regards
>
> Bernd
>
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BookManager

2023-02-28 Thread Bernd Oppolzer

What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF?

My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access
after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4).

We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can
at least look at the books. Now I would like to convert the books to PDFs.
But the free Softcopy Reader refuses to print more than one (selected) 
topic
or ranges of topics; if you try to do this using the print menu 
(selected or range),

the output is always empty.

Is this a bug - or: is printing larger portions of text not allowed in 
the free version?

What are the options?

The eMail address book...@us.ibm.com, which is mentioned in the Softcopy 
Reader
help texts, doesn't exist any more (BTW: the Softcopy Reader is a 2012 
edition;

this seems to be the last one available).

Is there a documented API to read the books using a C or REXX program
and build the PDFs this way? Or build HTML from the books?

Thanks for all suggestions,
kind regards

Bernd

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Copy BookManager Read & Library Server to 2.4

2022-02-02 Thread Randy Hoekstra
Thanks for the better approach. Hadn't thought of that  -- too many years of 
everything SMP!

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Copy BookManager Read & Library Server to 2.4

2022-02-01 Thread Pommier, Rex
As best I can tell, Bookmanager support ended in 2014.  If that's the case I 
would assume the chance of ever getting any kind of maintenance to it is nil.  
Does it even need to be kept in SMP/E anywhere or could you just copy the 
runtime libraries to the 2.4 system and let them be?

Rex

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I don't want to reinvent if someone has successfully copied BookManager Read 
and Library Server to their z/OS 2.4 system. (We have some old documentation 
that is only available in BookManager format.) If you have done so and may 
share the process please do. Short of a proven process any suggestions on which 
SMP/E process is preferred: BUILDMCS or GZONEMERGE for the FMIDs?

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Copy BookManager Read & Library Server to 2.4

2022-02-01 Thread Randy Hoekstra
I don't want to reinvent if someone has successfully copied BookManager Read 
and Library Server to their z/OS 2.4 system. (We have some old documentation 
that is only available in BookManager format.) If you have done so and may 
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Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
Alas, the Firefox that I'm using is the most recent version that has been 
ported to OS/2, and rust, the new implementation language for FF, has not been 
ported. There is a project to port a more recent browser, but for the time 
being this is what I have,

I'm fairly certain that anybody running z/OS would be using either Linux or 
windows on their PCs, so they would have no problem getting a current version 
of Chrome, Chromium or Firefox.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:27 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files

Hi Shmuel,

I'm glad that you found an environment that lets you access the content
properly.

Thanks for you tip about IE Explorer. I'm not an official tester - I
just tried the site on all the browsers on my local system to see if I
saw any immediate problems. I'm sure that the official testers ensure
that the product and content works on all supported browsers.

On that note, I recommend that you update your browsers to at least the
minimum supported versions just to help prevent any additional
compatibility issues like this in the future. For example, z/OSMF
requires Firefox ESR Version 60 or later (so your Firefox 68.7 is well
supported), and I'm currently running Firefox 75. The fact that you're
running such an old, unsupported version with Firefox 38.8 likely caused
or at least contributed to the content display problem.

-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 5:14 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> I'm using Firefox 38.8.0, which is probably much older than you have. I 
> notice that you didn't mention IE; while I dislike it and microsoft has 
> deprecated it, there are still people using it due to problems with edge, so 
> you might want to include it in what you're testing.
>
> Is there enough of a difference between Chromium and Chrome to warrant 
> separate testing?
>
> It works much better on Linux, with Firefox 68.7.0esr.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
> Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 2:34 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files
>
> Hi Shmuel,
>
> So, there's just the page title but no contents? That's strange. It
> looks okay to me on Firefox, Chrome, and Edge, so I'm not sure what the
> problem is on your end. If others notice the same behavior, I'll look
> into if it's a problem on the content or site end.
>
> In the meantime, here are direct links to the Softcopy Reader downloadables:
>
> IBM Softcopy Reader/Windows V4.0:
> ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/ps/products/bookmanager/tools/ilrjava.exe
>
> Release Notes:
> ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/ps/products/bookmanager/tools/swinread.txt
>
> -Sue Shumway
>
>
> On 4/27/2020 1:57 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> Is it browser dependent? What I get is
>>
>>
>> IBM®
>> IBM Support  Offerings  My support  Downloads  Documents  Cases  Communities 
>>  Training  Other
>>
>> Downloadable free BookManager tools and components
>>
>>   Contact IBM  Privacy  Terms of use  Accessibility
>>
>> with different values for the middle line.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>>
>> ____
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
>> Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:43 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files
>>
>> Hi Shmuel,
>>
>> It's a sort of old-school site - you just need to do some clicking. From
>> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 , click "IBM Softcopy
>> Reader", which gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324679
>> . From there, click "Download Softcopy Reader for Windows 4.0", which
>> gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/731199 . Scroll to
>> the bottom for the link to download the package with FTP.
>>
>> -Sue Shumway
>>
>> On 4/27/2020 12:47 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>>> I assume that's under the Download tab, but none of the menu options seem 
>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-28 Thread Susan Shumway

Hi Shmuel,

I'm glad that you found an environment that lets you access the content 
properly.


Thanks for you tip about IE Explorer. I'm not an official tester - I 
just tried the site on all the browsers on my local system to see if I 
saw any immediate problems. I'm sure that the official testers ensure 
that the product and content works on all supported browsers.


On that note, I recommend that you update your browsers to at least the 
minimum supported versions just to help prevent any additional 
compatibility issues like this in the future. For example, z/OSMF 
requires Firefox ESR Version 60 or later (so your Firefox 68.7 is well 
supported), and I'm currently running Firefox 75. The fact that you're 
running such an old, unsupported version with Firefox 38.8 likely caused 
or at least contributed to the content display problem.


-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 5:14 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

I'm using Firefox 38.8.0, which is probably much older than you have. I notice 
that you didn't mention IE; while I dislike it and microsoft has deprecated it, 
there are still people using it due to problems with edge, so you might want to 
include it in what you're testing.

Is there enough of a difference between Chromium and Chrome to warrant separate 
testing?

It works much better on Linux, with Firefox 68.7.0esr.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 2:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files

Hi Shmuel,

So, there's just the page title but no contents? That's strange. It
looks okay to me on Firefox, Chrome, and Edge, so I'm not sure what the
problem is on your end. If others notice the same behavior, I'll look
into if it's a problem on the content or site end.

In the meantime, here are direct links to the Softcopy Reader downloadables:

IBM Softcopy Reader/Windows V4.0:
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/ps/products/bookmanager/tools/ilrjava.exe

Release Notes:
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/ps/products/bookmanager/tools/swinread.txt

-Sue Shumway


On 4/27/2020 1:57 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

Is it browser dependent? What I get is


IBM®
IBM Support  Offerings  My support  Downloads  Documents  Cases  Communities  
Training  Other

Downloadable free BookManager tools and components

  Contact IBM  Privacy  Terms of use  Accessibility

with different values for the middle line.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files

Hi Shmuel,

It's a sort of old-school site - you just need to do some clicking. From
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 , click "IBM Softcopy
Reader", which gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324679
. From there, click "Download Softcopy Reader for Windows 4.0", which
gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/731199 . Scroll to
the bottom for the link to download the package with FTP.

-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 12:47 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

I assume that's under the Download tab, but none of the menu options seem 
appropriate.


--
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 12:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files

See "Downloadable free BookManager tools and components" (
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 ) for links to download
IBM Softcopy Reader and other helpful resources.

If you ever need to access older z/OS documentation, note that we've
made available PDF versions of it back to V1R10, available in the IBM Z
Publications Library Archive:
https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives

-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 5:49 AM, R.S. wrote:

W dniu 27.04.2020 o 11:14, Juergen Kehr pisze:

Hello,

where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you
know, on z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But
unfortunately some developers come up with a requirement to read some
very old homegrown documentation files (.BOO files). So my question
is, are there any free tools available to read and/or convert these
files to PDF or HTML?


BOO files can be still read using existing tools like IBM Softcopy
Reader which works nicely under Win10 x64 and older Windows versions.
You can still use IBM Library Reader which is 16-bit application and
will not work under 64-bit Windows, but you can run it under old Windows
running u

Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'm using Firefox 38.8.0, which is probably much older than you have. I notice 
that you didn't mention IE; while I dislike it and microsoft has deprecated it, 
there are still people using it due to problems with edge, so you might want to 
include it in what you're testing.

Is there enough of a difference between Chromium and Chrome to warrant separate 
testing?

It works much better on Linux, with Firefox 68.7.0esr.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 2:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files

Hi Shmuel,

So, there's just the page title but no contents? That's strange. It
looks okay to me on Firefox, Chrome, and Edge, so I'm not sure what the
problem is on your end. If others notice the same behavior, I'll look
into if it's a problem on the content or site end.

In the meantime, here are direct links to the Softcopy Reader downloadables:

IBM Softcopy Reader/Windows V4.0:
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/ps/products/bookmanager/tools/ilrjava.exe

Release Notes:
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/ps/products/bookmanager/tools/swinread.txt

-Sue Shumway


On 4/27/2020 1:57 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Is it browser dependent? What I get is
>
>
> IBM®
> IBM Support  Offerings  My support  Downloads  Documents  Cases  Communities  
> Training  Other
>
> Downloadable free BookManager tools and components
>
>  Contact IBM  Privacy  Terms of use  Accessibility
>
> with different values for the middle line.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
> Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:43 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files
>
> Hi Shmuel,
>
> It's a sort of old-school site - you just need to do some clicking. From
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 , click "IBM Softcopy
> Reader", which gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324679
> . From there, click "Download Softcopy Reader for Windows 4.0", which
> gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/731199 . Scroll to
> the bottom for the link to download the package with FTP.
>
> -Sue Shumway
>
> On 4/27/2020 12:47 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> I assume that's under the Download tab, but none of the menu options seem 
>> appropriate.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>>
>> 
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
>> Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 12:25 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files
>>
>> See "Downloadable free BookManager tools and components" (
>> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 ) for links to download
>> IBM Softcopy Reader and other helpful resources.
>>
>> If you ever need to access older z/OS documentation, note that we've
>> made available PDF versions of it back to V1R10, available in the IBM Z
>> Publications Library Archive:
>> https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives
>>
>> -Sue Shumway
>>
>> On 4/27/2020 5:49 AM, R.S. wrote:
>>> W dniu 27.04.2020 o 11:14, Juergen Kehr pisze:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you
>>>> know, on z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But
>>>> unfortunately some developers come up with a requirement to read some
>>>> very old homegrown documentation files (.BOO files). So my question
>>>> is, are there any free tools available to read and/or convert these
>>>> files to PDF or HTML?
>>>
>>> BOO files can be still read using existing tools like IBM Softcopy
>>> Reader which works nicely under Win10 x64 and older Windows versions.
>>> You can still use IBM Library Reader which is 16-bit application and
>>> will not work under 64-bit Windows, but you can run it under old Windows
>>> running under Virtual Box or other tool. Personally I prefer Library
>>> Reader, but it is simpler to use Softcopy Reader.
>>> Note: both tools were available for download and IMHO you can still use
>>> it, even if 

Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-27 Thread Susan Shumway

Hi Shmuel,

So, there's just the page title but no contents? That's strange. It 
looks okay to me on Firefox, Chrome, and Edge, so I'm not sure what the 
problem is on your end. If others notice the same behavior, I'll look 
into if it's a problem on the content or site end.


In the meantime, here are direct links to the Softcopy Reader downloadables:

IBM Softcopy Reader/Windows V4.0: 
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/ps/products/bookmanager/tools/ilrjava.exe


Release Notes: 
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/ps/products/bookmanager/tools/swinread.txt


-Sue Shumway


On 4/27/2020 1:57 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

Is it browser dependent? What I get is


IBM®
IBM Support  Offerings  My support  Downloads  Documents  Cases  Communities  
Training  Other

Downloadable free BookManager tools and components

 Contact IBM  Privacy  Terms of use  Accessibility

with different values for the middle line.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files

Hi Shmuel,

It's a sort of old-school site - you just need to do some clicking. From
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 , click "IBM Softcopy
Reader", which gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324679
. From there, click "Download Softcopy Reader for Windows 4.0", which
gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/731199 . Scroll to
the bottom for the link to download the package with FTP.

-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 12:47 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

I assume that's under the Download tab, but none of the menu options seem 
appropriate.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 12:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files

See "Downloadable free BookManager tools and components" (
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 ) for links to download
IBM Softcopy Reader and other helpful resources.

If you ever need to access older z/OS documentation, note that we've
made available PDF versions of it back to V1R10, available in the IBM Z
Publications Library Archive:
https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives

-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 5:49 AM, R.S. wrote:

W dniu 27.04.2020 o 11:14, Juergen Kehr pisze:

Hello,

where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you
know, on z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But
unfortunately some developers come up with a requirement to read some
very old homegrown documentation files (.BOO files). So my question
is, are there any free tools available to read and/or convert these
files to PDF or HTML?


BOO files can be still read using existing tools like IBM Softcopy
Reader which works nicely under Win10 x64 and older Windows versions.
You can still use IBM Library Reader which is 16-bit application and
will not work under 64-bit Windows, but you can run it under old Windows
running under Virtual Box or other tool. Personally I prefer Library
Reader, but it is simpler to use Softcopy Reader.
Note: both tools were available for download and IMHO you can still use
it, even if IBM removed it from webpage. If you need a copy, just look
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Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
Is it browser dependent? What I get is


IBM®
IBM Support  Offerings  My support  Downloads  Documents  Cases  Communities  
Training  Other

Downloadable free BookManager tools and components

Contact IBM  Privacy  Terms of use  Accessibility

with different values for the middle line.


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Hi Shmuel,

It's a sort of old-school site - you just need to do some clicking. From
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 , click "IBM Softcopy
Reader", which gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324679
. From there, click "Download Softcopy Reader for Windows 4.0", which
gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/731199 . Scroll to
the bottom for the link to download the package with FTP.

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On 4/27/2020 12:47 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> I assume that's under the Download tab, but none of the menu options seem 
> appropriate.
>
>
> --
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>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
> Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 12:25 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files
>
> See "Downloadable free BookManager tools and components" (
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 ) for links to download
> IBM Softcopy Reader and other helpful resources.
>
> If you ever need to access older z/OS documentation, note that we've
> made available PDF versions of it back to V1R10, available in the IBM Z
> Publications Library Archive:
> https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives
>
> -Sue Shumway
>
> On 4/27/2020 5:49 AM, R.S. wrote:
>> W dniu 27.04.2020 o 11:14, Juergen Kehr pisze:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you
>>> know, on z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But
>>> unfortunately some developers come up with a requirement to read some
>>> very old homegrown documentation files (.BOO files). So my question
>>> is, are there any free tools available to read and/or convert these
>>> files to PDF or HTML?
>>
>> BOO files can be still read using existing tools like IBM Softcopy
>> Reader which works nicely under Win10 x64 and older Windows versions.
>> You can still use IBM Library Reader which is 16-bit application and
>> will not work under 64-bit Windows, but you can run it under old Windows
>> running under Virtual Box or other tool. Personally I prefer Library
>> Reader, but it is simpler to use Softcopy Reader.
>> Note: both tools were available for download and IMHO you can still use
>> it, even if IBM removed it from webpage. If you need a copy, just look
>> for older documentation on DVD or CD.
>> I hope you don't want to use BOO files under z/OS. ;-)
>>
>
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Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-27 Thread Susan Shumway

Hi Shmuel,

It's a sort of old-school site - you just need to do some clicking. From 
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 , click "IBM Softcopy 
Reader", which gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324679 
. From there, click "Download Softcopy Reader for Windows 4.0", which 
gets you to https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/731199 . Scroll to 
the bottom for the link to download the package with FTP.


-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 12:47 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

I assume that's under the Download tab, but none of the menu options seem 
appropriate.


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Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 12:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files

See "Downloadable free BookManager tools and components" (
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 ) for links to download
IBM Softcopy Reader and other helpful resources.

If you ever need to access older z/OS documentation, note that we've
made available PDF versions of it back to V1R10, available in the IBM Z
Publications Library Archive:
https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives

-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 5:49 AM, R.S. wrote:

W dniu 27.04.2020 o 11:14, Juergen Kehr pisze:

Hello,

where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you
know, on z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But
unfortunately some developers come up with a requirement to read some
very old homegrown documentation files (.BOO files). So my question
is, are there any free tools available to read and/or convert these
files to PDF or HTML?


BOO files can be still read using existing tools like IBM Softcopy
Reader which works nicely under Win10 x64 and older Windows versions.
You can still use IBM Library Reader which is 16-bit application and
will not work under 64-bit Windows, but you can run it under old Windows
running under Virtual Box or other tool. Personally I prefer Library
Reader, but it is simpler to use Softcopy Reader.
Note: both tools were available for download and IMHO you can still use
it, even if IBM removed it from webpage. If you need a copy, just look
for older documentation on DVD or CD.
I hope you don't want to use BOO files under z/OS. ;-)



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Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
I assume that's under the Download tab, but none of the menu options seem 
appropriate.


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Susan Shumway [chale...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 12:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Read BookManager/READ files

See "Downloadable free BookManager tools and components" (
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 ) for links to download
IBM Softcopy Reader and other helpful resources.

If you ever need to access older z/OS documentation, note that we've
made available PDF versions of it back to V1R10, available in the IBM Z
Publications Library Archive:
https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives

-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 5:49 AM, R.S. wrote:
> W dniu 27.04.2020 o 11:14, Juergen Kehr pisze:
>> Hello,
>>
>> where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you
>> know, on z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But
>> unfortunately some developers come up with a requirement to read some
>> very old homegrown documentation files (.BOO files). So my question
>> is, are there any free tools available to read and/or convert these
>> files to PDF or HTML?
>
> BOO files can be still read using existing tools like IBM Softcopy
> Reader which works nicely under Win10 x64 and older Windows versions.
> You can still use IBM Library Reader which is 16-bit application and
> will not work under 64-bit Windows, but you can run it under old Windows
> running under Virtual Box or other tool. Personally I prefer Library
> Reader, but it is simpler to use Softcopy Reader.
> Note: both tools were available for download and IMHO you can still use
> it, even if IBM removed it from webpage. If you need a copy, just look
> for older documentation on DVD or CD.
> I hope you don't want to use BOO files under z/OS. ;-)
>

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Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-27 Thread Susan Shumway
See "Downloadable free BookManager tools and components" ( 
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/324693 ) for links to download 
IBM Softcopy Reader and other helpful resources.


If you ever need to access older z/OS documentation, note that we've 
made available PDF versions of it back to V1R10, available in the IBM Z 
Publications Library Archive: 
https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives


-Sue Shumway

On 4/27/2020 5:49 AM, R.S. wrote:

W dniu 27.04.2020 o 11:14, Juergen Kehr pisze:

Hello,

where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you 
know, on z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But 
unfortunately some developers come up with a requirement to read some 
very old homegrown documentation files (.BOO files). So my question 
is, are there any free tools available to read and/or convert these 
files to PDF or HTML?


BOO files can be still read using existing tools like IBM Softcopy 
Reader which works nicely under Win10 x64 and older Windows versions.
You can still use IBM Library Reader which is 16-bit application and 
will not work under 64-bit Windows, but you can run it under old Windows 
running under Virtual Box or other tool. Personally I prefer Library 
Reader, but it is simpler to use Softcopy Reader.
Note: both tools were available for download and IMHO you can still use 
it, even if IBM removed it from webpage. If you need a copy, just look 
for older documentation on DVD or CD.

I hope you don't want to use BOO files under z/OS. ;-)



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Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
I use the OS/2 Library Reader and it works just fine for old manuals. What 
current documentation does IBM have in BOO format.


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Subject: Read BookManager/READ files

Hello,

where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you know, on 
z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But unfortunately some 
developers come up with a requirement to read some very old homegrown 
documentation files (.BOO files). So my question is, are there any free tools 
available to read and/or convert these files to PDF or HTML?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Kind regards
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Re: Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-27 Thread R.S.

W dniu 27.04.2020 o 11:14, Juergen Kehr pisze:

Hello,

where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you know, on 
z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But unfortunately some 
developers come up with a requirement to read some very old homegrown 
documentation files (.BOO files). So my question is, are there any free tools 
available to read and/or convert these files to PDF or HTML?


BOO files can be still read using existing tools like IBM Softcopy 
Reader which works nicely under Win10 x64 and older Windows versions.
You can still use IBM Library Reader which is 16-bit application and 
will not work under 64-bit Windows, but you can run it under old Windows 
running under Virtual Box or other tool. Personally I prefer Library 
Reader, but it is simpler to use Softcopy Reader.
Note: both tools were available for download and IMHO you can still use 
it, even if IBM removed it from webpage. If you need a copy, just look 
for older documentation on DVD or CD.

I hope you don't want to use BOO files under z/OS. ;-)

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Read BookManager/READ files

2020-04-27 Thread Juergen Kehr
Hello,

where just in the process to migrate our z/OS systems to V2.4. As you know, on 
z/OS V2.4 BookManager/READ isn't available anymore. But unfortunately some 
developers come up with a requirement to read some very old homegrown 
documentation files (.BOO files). So my question is, are there any free tools 
available to read and/or convert these files to PDF or HTML?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Bookmanager/Library Server is Up Again (on the Web)

2018-12-16 Thread David Staudacher
Hallelujah! The new URL base is http://ibm.com/support/libraryserver_os390 ...
... but all the old links with 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390 ... seem to automatically 
resolve to the new address OK. 
e.g. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/iea2bkb5 - 
"z/OS 1.13 MVS" 
... resolves to http://ibm.com/support/libraryserver_os390/Shelves/iea2bkb5 
automatically. 

z/OS 1.13 Bookshelves are here:
http://ibm.com/support/libraryserver_os390/Shelves?filter=z%2FOS+V1R13=Find
z/OS 1.13 is the last z/OS Release with documentation on web based Bookmanager

Thank you IBM! 
In doing this you have made a *lot* of people *very* happy.

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Re: Bookmanager BUILD and z/OS V2.2

2015-10-22 Thread John Eells

Juergen Kehr wrote:

As you probably know Bookmanager BUILD isn't supported and delivered with z/OS 
V2.2 anymore.

We've had the idea to transfer the "old" Bookmanager BUILD FMIDs via BUILDMCS 
into a seperate CSI in the V2.2 environment. Now our question is: Will this work? Of 
course it's not offically supported, but their are many unsupported old z/OS or even MVS 
or OS/VS product, which run perfect although in very new environments.

Does anybody have any experiences with this approach? Thanks in advance.



We generally do not break things on purpose when they are no longer 
supported or offered. For example, I think BTAM/SP worked for at *least* 
a decade after we withdrew it, and maybe even two. However, we also do 
not test with them, and if we happen to make a change that breaks them, 
we will not even know we did it--as happened, eventually, to BTAM.


That said, my guess is that Bookmanager Build does nothing special and 
will likely continue to work. The usual caveats around BUILDMCS apply, 
though. ACCEPT all service first, look in the zone where it's installed 
to see whether it has any cross-FMID considerations that would preclude 
installation in a separate zone and libraries (e.g., shared load 
modules), and so on.  If it does have an intra-zone dependency, it might 
even be something reasonably easy to manage (such as an interaction with 
Bookmanager Read, which you could BUILDMCS out and install alongside it).


BUILDMCS is remarkably fast, and APPLYing something relatively small 
without any PTFs is pretty quick too. I'd be inclined to do some quick 
checking, try it, and see whether it works.


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Re: (External):Re: Bookmanager BUILD and z/OS V2.2

2015-10-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
A more outrageous example. Some years ago management decided that we did not 
really need Netview, so they refused to order the next upgrade that was 
actually quite a bit more expensive. BUILDMCS came to the rescue. By comparison 
with Book Mgr, Netview is very complicated. Had elements in NUCLEUS as I 
recall. Nonetheless it worked long enough for management to see the light and 
pony up for the next version. BUILDMCS a powerful tool. 

.
.
.
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Subject: (External):Re: Bookmanager BUILD and z/OS V2.2

Juergen Kehr wrote:
> As you probably know Bookmanager BUILD isn't supported and delivered with 
> z/OS V2.2 anymore.
>
> We've had the idea to transfer the "old" Bookmanager BUILD FMIDs via BUILDMCS 
> into a seperate CSI in the V2.2 environment. Now our question is: Will this 
> work? Of course it's not offically supported, but their are many unsupported 
> old z/OS or even MVS or OS/VS product, which run perfect although in very new 
> environments.
>
> Does anybody have any experiences with this approach? Thanks in advance.


We generally do not break things on purpose when they are no longer supported 
or offered. For example, I think BTAM/SP worked for at *least* a decade after 
we withdrew it, and maybe even two. However, we also do not test with them, and 
if we happen to make a change that breaks them, we will not even know we did 
it--as happened, eventually, to BTAM.

That said, my guess is that Bookmanager Build does nothing special and will 
likely continue to work. The usual caveats around BUILDMCS apply, though. 
ACCEPT all service first, look in the zone where it's installed to see whether 
it has any cross-FMID considerations that would preclude installation in a 
separate zone and libraries (e.g., shared load modules), and so on.  If it does 
have an intra-zone dependency, it might even be something reasonably easy to 
manage (such as an interaction with Bookmanager Read, which you could BUILDMCS 
out and install alongside it).

BUILDMCS is remarkably fast, and APPLYing something relatively small without 
any PTFs is pretty quick too. I'd be inclined to do some quick checking, try 
it, and see whether it works.

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Bookmanager BUILD and z/OS V2.2

2015-10-22 Thread Juergen Kehr
As you probably know Bookmanager BUILD isn't supported and delivered with z/OS 
V2.2 anymore.

We've had the idea to transfer the "old" Bookmanager BUILD FMIDs via BUILDMCS 
into a seperate CSI in the V2.2 environment. Now our question is: Will this 
work? Of course it's not offically supported, but their are many unsupported 
old z/OS or even MVS or OS/VS product, which run perfect although in very new 
environments. 

Does anybody have any experiences with this approach? Thanks in advance.

Regards.
Juergen

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