Re: RSCS LPR Printer Name w/spaces

2006-12-14 Thread Fran Hensler
Fran Hensler wrote:
 I enclosed the printer name in single quotes but I get a NAK when I
 try to print to it.
 PRINTER='eX- Printer on https://xxx.xx-.us/printers/default'

 Does anyone know how I could either rename this printer to remove
 spaces or how to make RSCS print to printer name with embedded
 spaces.

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:14:37 -0500 David Boyes said:
Have the machine that has access to the printer share it as a name that does
not have spaces in it. The Windows LPD will honor shared names as well as
the original name.

David -

Your solution worked great when testing on a local network printer
but when I tried to share the IPP printer I got this message
Sharing is not supported for this type of printer

I tried creating a short cut but that doesn't work either.

So I'm going to try and get the vendor to change the spaces in the
printer name to underscores.  I might also open a PMR and ask IBM to
support printer names with embedded spaces in the name.

/Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 43 years
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Re: RSCS LPR Printer Name w/spaces

2006-12-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/14/2006 at 08:36 EST, Fran Hensler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Your solution worked great when testing on a local network printer
 but when I tried to share the IPP printer I got this message
 Sharing is not supported for this type of printer
 
 I tried creating a short cut but that doesn't work either.
 
 So I'm going to try and get the vendor to change the spaces in the
 printer name to underscores.  I might also open a PMR and ask IBM to
 support printer names with embedded spaces in the name.

While you get it straightened out, you can use TCPSNIFF (VM download 
library?) to act as an LPR proxy, changing RSCS-specifed underscores to 
blanks on the way to the printer.

However, using blanks in LPR queue names violates RFC 1179 (LPR), since 
blanks are significant to the protocol for 'query' and 'remove' functions.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-14 Thread Mary Zervos
Thanks to everyone for their help on Sysprof.  I used Mike's suggestion 
below and it worked like a charm.  The new z/vm 4.4 system dust is 
starting to settle.


Anyone game for another question...

Yesterday on our new 4.4 system, I was deleting some old users on random 
packs using Dirmaint while logged onto Maint.  Our person who runs 
Vmbackup was logged on her Vmrmaint account running backups.  All the 
Vmbackup and Vmrmaint mdisks are on the old 230RES pack that we now have 
attached to the 4.4 system as CP System.  The Vmbackup person called me 
to say that all the mdisks for vmbackup and vmrmaint were empty (she 
never logged off) and upon checking myself, somehow 230RES was relabeled 
to SCRTCH.  Wow, was that a shocker for me!  I immediately restored a 
backup that I had but am now searching for the reason this happened.  
Dirmaint?


Thanks again for any help.
Mary Zervos
Binghamton University




Mike Walter wrote:


As noted by another listserv member, it's probably the need to resave 
INSTSEG.  

It can get really tough remembering all the things one needs to do to 
build, install, test, and move local mods into production.
I started using the AUX files as a repository of such local 
information because that where I trip over it when needing to modify 
something.


SYSPROF mods are only one of many, including vendor products.   We use 
AUX files named AUXRS (for ouR Stuff) so they are easy to find, not 
being the name of any IBM or ISV AUX files.  You may not want to 
bother with that technique.

Here's an example... modify it to meet your needs if you wish:

 SYSPROF  AUXRSD1  F 80  Trunc=80 Size=15 Line=0 Col=1 Alt=0   
   
 
 
|...+1+2+3+4+5+6+7+ 

* * * Top of File * * *   
 
RS0040DS  501 RS040DS Update SYSPROF with local enhancements. 
 
* To create, be sure to copy the proper SYSPROF $EXEC to the A-disk   
 
* (EXECUPDT overwrites the SYSPROF EXEC on the same disk as the 
$EXEC)!
* To update SYSPROF EXEC,  you should: 
   
* COPY SYSPROF $EXEC fm = = A (OLDDATE REPLACE UNPACK  -- See UNPACK! 
   
* XEDITSYSPROF $EXEC * (CTL DMSVM SID RS0040DS, then   
   
* EXECUPDT SYSPROF  EXEC * (CTL DMSVM HISTory SID 
 
* Test the SYSPROF EXEC (esp. for syntax errors!) 
 
* COPY SYSPROF EXEC A = EXC040DS E (OLDDate REPLace   
 
*  so VMFBLD won't complain later on. 
 
* COPY SYSPROF EXEC A = EXEC E (OLDDate REPLace ERASE 
 
*  so we don't get mixed up.   
   
* then re-save the INSTSEG NSS, e.g.   
   
* CP IPL 190 CLEAR PARM NOSPROF INSTSEG NO MTSEG NO   
 
* VMFBLD PPF SEGBLD ESASEGS SEGBLIST INSTSEG ( ALL 
   
* * * End of File * * *   
 

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates  
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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Well, we finally migrated to z/vm 4.4 two days ago from vm/esa 2.3.  
Most of our little fires are out.  But here's a new problem for

us..we tailor our Sysprof Exec to run an account exec before a
users's profile exec.  For some reason, Sysprof exec is not being run
when we Ipl Cms or Ipl 190.  Did something change with Sysprof Exec
since vm/esa 2.3?  Is it still automatically run as part of the CMS
initialization procedure when a user logs on  or reIpls CMS?

Thanks for any help.  We've even traced the original z/vm 4.4 Sysprof
Exec and it's not being called?

Mary Zervos
VM Systems Programmer
Binghamton University



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Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-14 Thread George Haddad

Any chance that a minidisk covering cyl 0 was defined, them deleted?

Mary Zervos wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their help on Sysprof.  I used Mike's 
suggestion below and it worked like a charm.  The new z/vm 4.4 system 
dust is starting to settle.


Anyone game for another question...

Yesterday on our new 4.4 system, I was deleting some old users on 
random packs using Dirmaint while logged onto Maint.  Our person who 
runs Vmbackup was logged on her Vmrmaint account running backups.  All 
the Vmbackup and Vmrmaint mdisks are on the old 230RES pack that we 
now have attached to the 4.4 system as CP System.  The Vmbackup person 
called me to say that all the mdisks for vmbackup and vmrmaint were 
empty (she never logged off) and upon checking myself, somehow 230RES 
was relabeled to SCRTCH.  Wow, was that a shocker for me!  I 
immediately restored a backup that I had but am now searching for the 
reason this happened.  Dirmaint?


Thanks again for any help.
Mary Zervos
Binghamton University






Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-14 Thread Thomas Kern
Did you bay any chance use DIRMAINT to delete a minidisk that covered
cylinder zero of volume 230RES? When DIRMAINT deletes a minidisk, it usua
lly
has its worker DATAMOVE format the minidisk before deallocating it to
prevent the next user from getting data from it. 

/Tom Kern

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:57:06 -0500, Mary Zervos wrote:
Anyone game for another question...

Yesterday on our new 4.4 system, I was deleting some old users on random

packs using Dirmaint while logged onto Maint.  Our person who runs
Vmbackup was logged on her Vmrmaint account running backups.  All the
Vmbackup and Vmrmaint mdisks are on the old 230RES pack that we now have

attached to the 4.4 system as CP System.  The Vmbackup person called me
to say that all the mdisks for vmbackup and vmrmaint were empty (she
never logged off) and upon checking myself, somehow 230RES was relabeled

to SCRTCH.  Wow, was that a shocker for me!  I immediately restored a
backup that I had but am now searching for the reason this happened.
Dirmaint?


COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
I have a file containing records that look like this:

DELETE USER JOEUSER  fpid (TYPE NOCONFIRM

This file is read by a pipe and the commands passed to a stage for
execution. I have seen and heard the arguments for using COMMAND vs. CMS
stages, so I passed the records to COMMAND (as in 'PIPE  fid | command
| cons'.) Nothing happens as a result. If I change the COMMAND stage to
CMS, the commands are acted upon. Funny thing, an appended command of
ERASE fid does get executed in either instance. There must be some
simple explanation for what is happening, but I must be even simpler.
What am I missing?

Thanks,
Richard Schuh





Re: COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Marty Zimelis
Richard,
   What environment is this pipe running in?  Clearly, DELETE USER is not a
native CMS command.
 
Marty
 


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I have a file containing records that look like this: 

DELETE USER JOEUSER  fpid (TYPE NOCONFIRM 

This file is read by a pipe and the commands passed to a stage for
execution. I have seen and heard the arguments for using COMMAND vs. CMS
stages, so I passed the records to COMMAND (as in 'PIPE  fid | command |
cons'.) Nothing happens as a result. If I change the COMMAND stage to CMS,
the commands are acted upon. Funny thing, an appended command of ERASE fid
does get executed in either instance. There must be some simple explanation
for what is happening, but I must be even simpler. What am I missing?

Thanks, 
Richard Schuh 





Re: COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Kris Buelens
Are you sre the command is written in uppercase?
Do you know that you can code CMDCALL before a command so that it 
generates error messages
e.g.  PIPE COMMAND ERASE NO FILE A!CONS is silent
while PIPE COMMAND CMDCALL ERASE NO FILE A!CONS displays file not 
found

The CMDCALL prefix  is especially useful with SFS related commands because 
the returncode are often not unique then.

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 
2006-12-14 22:08:43:

 I have a file containing records that look like this: 
 
 DELETE USER JOEUSER  fpid (TYPE NOCONFIRM
 
 This file is read by a pipe and the commands passed to a stage for 
 execution. I have seen and heard the arguments for using COMMAND vs.
 CMS stages, so I passed the records to COMMAND (as in 'PIPE  fid | 
 command | cons'.) Nothing happens as a result. If I change the 
 COMMAND stage to CMS, the commands are acted upon. Funny thing, an 
 appended command of ERASE fid does get executed in either 
 instance. There must be some simple explanation for what is 
 happening, but I must be even simpler. What am I missing?
 
 Thanks, 
 Richard Schuh 


Re: COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
DELETE USER is an SFS Administrator command. 



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Richard,
   What environment is this pipe running in?  Clearly, DELETE USER is
not a native CMS command.
 
Marty
 




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I have a file containing records that look like this: 

DELETE USER JOEUSER  fpid (TYPE NOCONFIRM 

This file is read by a pipe and the commands passed to a stage
for execution. I have seen and heard the arguments for using COMMAND vs.
CMS stages, so I passed the records to COMMAND (as in 'PIPE  fid |
command | cons'.) Nothing happens as a result. If I change the COMMAND
stage to CMS, the commands are acted upon. Funny thing, an appended
command of ERASE fid does get executed in either instance. There must
be some simple explanation for what is happening, but I must be even
simpler. What am I missing?

Thanks, 
Richard Schuh 





Re: COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
DELETE USER is not an EXEC, it is an SFS administrator command. 

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The COMMAND stage bypasses the normal search order and won't find EXECs.
=
 
Since DELETE USER is not a CMS or CP command it fails.  The COMMAND
stage=
 
ends when it gets a negative return code if it's secondary output stream
=

is not connected.

Brian Nielsen

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:08:43 -0800, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrot=
e:

I have a file containing records that look like this:

   DELETE USER JOEUSER  fpid (TYPE NOCONFIRM

This file is read by a pipe and the commands passed to a stage for 
execution. I have seen and heard the arguments for using COMMAND vs. 
CMS=

stages, so I passed the records to COMMAND (as in 'PIPE  fid | command
| cons'.) Nothing happens as a result. If I change the COMMAND stage to
CMS, the commands are acted upon. Funny thing, an appended command of 
ERASE fid does get executed in either instance. There must be some 
simple explanation for what is happening, but I must be even simpler.
What am I missing?

Thanks,
Richard Schuh






Re: COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
HELP SFSADMIN DELETE



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From: Marty Zimelis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System'
Subject: RE: COMMAND vs. CMS


Richard,
   What environment is this pipe running in?  Clearly, DELETE
USER is not a native CMS command.
 
 Well, not for the casual Class G user, anyway
 
 Marty
 




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I have a file containing records that look like this: 

DELETE USER JOEUSER  fpid (TYPE NOCONFIRM 

This file is read by a pipe and the commands passed to a
stage for execution. I have seen and heard the arguments for using
COMMAND vs. CMS stages, so I passed the records to COMMAND (as in 'PIPE
 fid | command | cons'.) Nothing happens as a result. If I change the
COMMAND stage to CMS, the commands are acted upon. Funny thing, an
appended command of ERASE fid does get executed in either instance.
There must be some simple explanation for what is happening, but I must
be even simpler. What am I missing?

Thanks, 
Richard Schuh 





Re: COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Mike Walter
Shot_in_the_dark: ON
Not sure of this, because we do not do a lot with SFS here, but could the 
SFS commands somehow be treated as CP commands?
From PIPE HELP COMMAND (in part):
---snip---
The  response  from  the  CMS  commands  is not written to the terminal. 
The
response from each command is buffered until the command  ends  and  is 
then
written  to  the  primary  output  stream.command  does  not 
intercept
CP-generated terminal output.  
---snip---
Note the last sentence.
Shot_in_the_dark: OFF

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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Irrelevant in this case. Translation is a by-product, not the main
thrust, of the command environment. In any event, the commands entered
were all upper case. The problem is that either CMS does not recognize
SFS administrative commands (and who knows what others) when entered
from the Pipelines COMMAND filter, or Pipelines is screwed up. There is
no separate command environment for these commands, so they must be CMS
commands, and should be so treated, by both Pipelines and CMS.

Try the experiment of executing the DELETE USER command from within the
address command environment. It will work.



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This appears to be a SFS admin command. The Command vs CMS is usually in
regards to 'address'ing an environment. Addressing Command will issue
the command in CMS without translation. Ex. 
In vanilla CMS if you have a file such as 
JOEUSER Ofslogfl A
In an exec you could issue:
   'RENAME JOEUSER Ofslogfl A JOEUSER OFSLOGFL A'   this defaults to CMS
and will fail because the lower case chars will be translated to upper
and the input file will not be found. 
If you code:
   Address COMMAND 'RENAME JOEUSER Ofslogfl A JOEUSER OFSLOGFL A'   it
will succeed because address command passes the exact phrase without
trans. 

Hope that helps,

Richard Feldman 
Senior IT Architect 
Kelly, Douglas / Westfair Foods  Ltd. 
Ph:(403)291-6339 Fax:(403)291-6585

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The COMMAND stage bypasses the normal search order and won't find EXECs.
=
 
Since DELETE USER is not a CMS or CP command it fails.  The COMMAND
stage=
 
ends when it gets a negative return code if it's secondary output stream
=

is not connected.

Brian Nielsen

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:08:43 -0800, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrot=
e:

I have a file containing records that look like this:

DELETE USER JOEUSER  fpid (TYPE NOCONFIRM

This file is read by a pipe and the commands passed to a stage for 
execution. I have seen and heard the arguments for using COMMAND vs.
CMS=

stages, so I passed the records to COMMAND (as in 'PIPE  fid | command
| cons'.) Nothing happens as a result. If I change the COMMAND stage to
CMS, the commands are acted upon. Funny thing, an appended command of 
ERASE fid does get executed in either instance. There must be some 
simple explanation for what is happening, but I must be even simpler.
What am I missing?

Thanks,
Richard Schuh







 
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Re: COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/14/2006 at 02:49 PST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Irrelevant in this case. Translation is a by-product, not the main
 thrust, of the command environment. In any event, the commands entered
 were all upper case. The problem is that either CMS does not recognize
 SFS administrative commands (and who knows what others) when entered
 from the Pipelines COMMAND filter, or Pipelines is screwed up. There is
 no separate command environment for these commands, so they must be CMS
 commands, and should be so treated, by both Pipelines and CMS.
 
 Try the experiment of executing the DELETE USER command from within the
 address command environment. It will work.

nucxmap delete 
DMSNXM941I Nucleus extension DELETE is not loaded
Ready;

execmap delete 
DMSEXM416W There are no DELETE * EXECs storage resident
Ready(00028); 

listfile delete * * 
DMSLST002E File not found 
Ready(00028); 

type temp file 
DELETE USER ABC (TYPE NOCONFIRM 
Ready;
 
pipe  temp file a | CMS | cons 
DMSJDE1139E You are not authorized to issue this command 
Ready(00076);
 
pipe  temp file a | command | cons 
Ready(00076); 

The command is executing in either case (fails, of course, but it 
executes).  Naturally my version of Pipes is vanilla-flavored.  :-)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-14 Thread Ronald van der Laan

There is a CYL0_BLK0_CLEANUP setting, and if you set it to YES, it will
scratch mdisks that start at cyl 0 too.

Or if you have, like we once suffered from, an admin guy who found it more
secure to use the option CLEAN on the PURGE or DMDISK commands, overriding
the default dirmaint settings, well we lost the same system twice, before we
realized that someone else had an userid with fullpack minidisk overlays
removed as he was no longer responsible and we were sure we had Dirmaint
configured with CYL0_BLK0_CLEANUP=NO ..

Ronald van der Laan


Re: COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Rick Troth
Do you have a COMMAND REXX in the mix intercepting the built-in?

-- R;