Re: z/VM Installation from DVD

2008-02-07 Thread RPN01
If you can get them to use a common profile, and possibly run a script or
control file that matches the userid, then there'd really be no need for the
writable 191 in each dumper virtual machine. You could place the 191 under
either $VOLS$ or some other maintenance user, and have the profile just
link it rr as well.

We do this with all our Linux guests; they share a single 191 minidisk, and
the profile accounts for any differences that may be required.

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 in practice, theory and practice are different.




On 2/6/08 3:25 PM, Aria Bamdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:44:02 -0500 Hilliard, Chris said:
 
 I need a short lesson on backing up DASD volumes using DDR.
 
 snip
 
 Chris,
 
 Others have made good suggestions.  Over time, you may have more DASD
 that you want to dump or use multiple virtual machines that you want to
 use simultaniously to dump from.  Here is one way to address that:
 
 Define one dummy user that owns a full pack minidisk on each volume:
 
 USER $VOLS$  NOLOG
   ACCOUNT SYSTEM SYSTEM
   MDISK A00 3390  3339 VOLA00 RR
   MDISK A01 3390  3339 VOLA01 RR
   MDISK A02 3390  3339 VOLA02 RR
   MDISK A03 3390  3339 VOLA03 RR
   MDISK A04 3390  3339 VOLA04 RR
 
 
 Now define multiple dump users that do the dumping to tape.  These users
 will have access to the dummy account disks above.  To make it simpler,
 just define a user profile first then use that in each dump account:
 
 
 PROFILE SYSDMPPR
 *  Profile for SYSDUMP users
   ACCOUNT SYSUTIL SYSTEM
   MACHINE XC
   IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR
   CONSOLE 009 3215
   SPOOL 00C 2540 READER *
   SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH  A
   SPOOL 00E 1403 A
   LINK MAINT 190 190 RR
   LINK MAINT 19E 19E RR
   LINK $VOLS$ A00 A00 RR
   LINK $VOLS$ A01 A01 RR
   LINK $VOLS$ A02 A02 RR
   LINK $VOLS$ A03 A03 RR
   LINK $VOLS$ A04 A04 RR
 
 Now each new dump account can be define using:
 
 USER SYSDUMP PASSWORD 5M 25M G
   INCLUDE SYSDMPPR
   MDISK 191 3390   zz W
   *
 USER SYSDUMP2 PASSWORD 5M 25M G
   INCLUDE SYSDMPPR
   MDISK 191 3390   zz W
 
 
 Now each dump account has a virtual address that matches the real
 address of a real DASD.  You can then do a DDR with input statements
 that point to the virtual address.
 
 Remember to never make this LINK or MDISK statements in write mode.
 Everything
 should be in read only mode.
 
 Aria


Re: Anybody using a multi-sysres concept for maintenance?

2008-02-07 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
No.  Since what usually changes is the CPLOAD MODULE, we just rename it
to FALLBACK MODULE and place a new CPLOAD MODULE on the PARM disks.  

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tobias Doerkes
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:31 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Anybody using a multi-sysres concept for maintenance?


hi list,

is there anybody out there using a multi-sysres-concept for activating
maintenance? we are a mvs shop. so i would like to adopt some processes
for maintaining vm. normally we build up a sysres in our maintenance
environment. after some testing we deploy this sysres to all
systems/sysplexes and bring it up by ipling the image. parameters, ckpt,
etc are separated from the sysres.

i would like to share my thoughts and code to perform this process
automated.

regards,

tobias.


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Re: FTP - how can I preserve date time?

2008-02-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 11:00 EST, Bob Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any way to preserve file date  time when I ftp from one z/VM 
to
 another z/VM?

Not directly, no, though you could use VMARC to package the file into an 
envelope whose timestamp is irrelevant.  Then, when the file is unpacked 
on the other end, the timestamp of the unpacked file is preserved (if you 
use the OLDDATE option).

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Anybody using a multi-sysres concept for maintenance?

2008-02-07 Thread Stephen Frazier
That is one way to do it. The way I do it is to make a copy of the VM system on alternate disks. IPL 
that VM as guest of the running VM (second level). Apply the maintenance to the second level VM and 
test it. When it is working I then shut down VM and IPL from alternate disks (first level). If 
problems happen you can shut VM down and IPL from the old disks.


Tobias Doerkes wrote:

hi list,

is there anybody out there using a multi-sysres-concept for activating
maintenance? we are a mvs shop. so i would like to adopt some processes f
or
maintaining vm. normally we build up a sysres in our maintenance
environment. after some testing we deploy this sysres to all
systems/sysplexes and bring it up by ipling the image. parameters, ckpt, 
etc

are separated from the sysres.

i would like to share my thoughts and code to perform this process automa
ted.

regards,

tobias.


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How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-07 Thread Horlick, Michael
Greetings,

 

We have a situation that has been annoying us for quite awhile now with regards 
to DIRMAINT. When we add MDISKs for a user (especially for a VSE user) we 
usually add comment statements just before the new MDISK. No problem, except 
when we later GET the directory entry the comments are in the wrong place.

 

Example:

 

I created a dummy user:

 

USER TEST1 X1X2X 32M 128M G 01300910

   INCLUDE CMSSTD   01300910

   LINK RSCS 0191 0192 RR   01300910

*  THIS IS A COMMENT

*  MDISK 0191 3380 1548 3 ST160D MR ALL 01300910

 

When I do a DIRM FOR TEST1 GET, I get back in my reader:

 

USER TEST1 X1X2X 32M 128M G 02071121

   INCLUDE CMSSTD   02071121

*  THIS IS A COMMENT02071121

*  MDISK 0191 3380 1548 3 ST160D MR ALL 02071121

   LINK RSCS 0191 0192 RR   02071121

*DVHOPT LNK0 LOG1 RCM1 SMS0 NPW1 LNGAMENG PWC20080207 CRCæE 

 

Why and how does DIRMAINT shuffle the directory entry sent to it and is there a 
way to stop it from doing so? 

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

 



Re: z/VM Installation from DVD

2008-02-07 Thread Ivica Brodaric
I KNEW someone's going to say that and I do use address COMMAND, but -
obviously not in this exec. I was going to insert it now to prevent the
backlash, but since I don't have a system anymore to test the exec, I
decided against it.
Ivica Brodaric

On 08/02/2008, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nicely formatted REXX, quoted what need to be, CP commands targeted
 directly to CP.  But.  Where is the ADDRESS COMMAND?  And why use
 PIPE CMS instead of PIPE COMMAND?  Running with ADDRESS CMS and PIPE
 CMS are two loaded guns too.
 Why: read our free Telecourse
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM1

 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support


 2008/2/7, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Chris,
 
 
  Since you are a VM newbie (welcome!) I thought I might give you a simple
 DDRCOPY EXEC so that you are all set. I found one in my archive. Exec
 doesn't use minidisk passwords in LINK commands, so put OPTION LNKNOPAS in
 SYSDMPPR profile or work around it (depends on your security requirements).
 This exec uses another disk for backup. If you want to use a tape as output,
 you need to replace the second LINK command with ATTACH command for the tape
 drive, modify OUTPUT subcommand of DDR and replace 'COPY ALL' with 'DUMP
 ALL'.
 
 
  One warning: This is a loaded gun. Please be careful with those
 target_addr parameters in DMPn EXECs previously mentioned. Maybe tell
 your co-worker to read them aloud for you in a melodic voice after you did
 the same. ;-)
 
 
 
  /**
  *** Function: Copy a minidisk with DDR
  **/
 arg userin addrin userout addrout disktype rest
 if rest ^= ''
then do
   say 'Invalid parameter:' rest'.'
   exit 3
   end
 if disktype = ''
then disktype = '3390'
 if addrout = ''
then do
   say 'Missing parameters.'
   say 'Format: DDRCOPY userin addrin userout addrout disktype'
   say '3390  '
   exit 4
   end
 'CLRSCRN'
 'MAKEBUF'
 'GETFMADR'
 if rc ^= 0 then exit rc
 pull . fm1 addr1
 'DROPBUF'
 parse value diagrc(8, 'LINK' userin addrin addr1 'RR') with rc .
 if rc ^= 0 then exit rc
 'ACCESS' addr1 fm1
 'MAKEBUF'
 'GETFMADR'
 pull . fm2 addr2
 'DROPBUF'
 parse value diagrc(8, 'LINK' userout addrout addr2 'M') with rc .
 if rc ^= 0 then exit rc
 'MAKEBUF'
 queue 'SYSPRINT CONS'
 queue 'INPUT' addr1 disktype
 queue 'OUTPUT' addr2 disktype
 queue 'COPY ALL'
 queue 'YES'
  queue 'YES'
 queue
 call time 'R'
 'DDR'
 src = rc
 'DROPBUF'
 'ACCESS' addr1 fm1
 'ACCESS' addr2 fm2
 'PIPE CMS Q DISK' fm1'|CONS'
 'PIPE CMS Q DISK' fm2'|TAKE LAST|CONS'
 'RELEASE' fm1
 'RELEASE' fm2
 call diag 8, 'DETACH' addr1
 call diag 8, 'DETACH' addr2
 say 'Elapsed time:' time('E')
 'CP SLEEP 1 SEC'
 exit src
 
 
  Ivica Brodaric
  Not with Tabcorp anymore
  (not because of this exec - mainframe is not with Tabcorp anymore
 either)
 
 
 
  On 08/02/2008, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you create a PROFILE EXEC on 191 that checks who's running and
 invokes another exec if it's a dumper machine, e.g.:
  
  
   if userid() /= 'DMPADMIN' then do
 'CP SP CON DMPADMIN'
  'EXEC' userid()
  'CP LOGOFF'
  end
  
  
   and create userid EXEC for every dumper machine that you are
 actually going to use and that contains something simple (you are going to
 maintain this), e.g.:
  
  
   ' EXEC DDRCOPY $VOLS$ source_addr $VOLS$ target_addr'
  
  
   then you only need to write a DDRCOPY EXEC that will link source and
 target minidisks and invoke DDR program.
  
  
   From here you only need to maintain userid EXEC's from dump
 maintenance machine and autolog dumper machines to do the work.
  
  
  
  
On 08/02/2008, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   And if you move 191 minidisk from dumper machines to maintenance
 userid, and add a link to that minidisk as 191 RR to SYSDMPPR profile, you
 can define a pool of dumper machines, e.g.:
   
   
USER DMP password 5M 25M G
POOL LOW 0 HIGH 99 PROFILE SYSDMPPR
   
   
   
On 08/02/2008, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you can get them to use a common profile, and possibly run
 a script or
 control file that matches the userid, then there'd really be no
 need for the
 writable 191 in each dumper virtual machine. You could place the
 191 under
  either $VOLS$ or some other maintenance user, and have the
 profile just
 link it rr as well.

 We do this with all our Linux guests; they share a single 191
 minidisk, and
 the profile accounts for any differences that may be required.

 --
.~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation
/V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW
   /( )\   507-284-0844 

Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Imler, Steven J
I shudder to say ... you could (briefly) go into FULLSCREEN CMS! 

JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 01:42 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: PIPE Help (please)
 
 I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills 
 multiple screens=
 
 and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results
 
 Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:
 
 pipe | cms rac setr list
  |  setr list a 
  | cms xedit setr list a
  | cms erase setr list a
 
 This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when 
 xedit opens it.=
 
 
 I've looked thru the pipe help menu and pipe ahelp menu and not found
 anything that helps that is obvious.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 


Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Kris Buelens
Place the XEDIT command outside the PIPE: when XEDIT starts, the PIEP
hasn't closed the file yet

2008/2/7, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills multiple screens

 and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results

 Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:

 pipe | cms rac setr list
  |  setr list a
  | cms xedit setr list a
  | cms erase setr list a

 This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when xedit opens it.


 I've looked thru the pipe help menu and pipe ahelp menu and not found
 anything that helps that is obvious.

 Thanks in advance



-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills multiple screens

and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results

Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:

pipe | cms rac setr list
 |  setr list a 
 | cms xedit setr list a
 | cms erase setr list a

This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when xedit opens it.


I've looked thru the pipe help menu and pipe ahelp menu and not found
anything that helps that is obvious.

Thanks in advance


Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Kris Buelens
If I remember well: RAC writes its output to disk as RACF OUTPUT A and
then the disk file is typed at the console.  I inherited a RACFAST
tool from Steve Swift that avoids this detour via the A-disk.  So, if
the use of a RACF command is more than an example but key: use
FILELIST first.

Another side note: when inserting a  stage to collect the data
flowing through the pipe, remember that null records are possible in a
pipe, but not on disk.  I.e. the null records will not end in the disk
file.   Use |PAD 1 x| fn ft fm to have these null records in the
file too.

2008/2/7, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills multiple
 screens
  and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results
  Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:
  [snip]
  This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when xedit opens
 it.

 Try SET FULLSCREEN ON at the CMS command line. Not all commands use the
 right I/O stuff to be pipe-friendly (particularly stuff brought over
 from MVS like RACF).

 I don't care for fullscreen CMS much, but others like it.



-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: TN3270 sessions

2008-02-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 03:34 EST, Edward M. Martin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I read and listen.  What manual is the best place to start looking 
for 
 Encrypted/unencrypted TN3270 sessions?

1. You need to install and configure the SSL server
2. You need to configure the relevant apps (ftp, smtp, telnet)

Both tasks are described in the z/VM TCP/IP Planning  Admin book.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


TN3270 sessions

2008-02-07 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Everyone,

 

 I read and listen.  What manual is the best place to start looking
for Encrypted/unencrypted TN3270 sessions?

 

 

 

Ed Martin

330-588-4723

ext 40441



Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
If you are going to ERASE it immediately after the XEDIT why not:

 PIPE command rac setr list',
'|  setr list A3'
 'XEDIT SETR LIST A'


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:39 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: PIPE Help (please)


Why so complicated???
 PIPE command rac setr list',
'|  setr list a'
 'XEDIT SETR LIST A'
 'ERASE SETR LIST A'
(but I repeat: probably not required fro RAC commands)

2008/2/7, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Would adding a few lines like

 Pipe | cms rcx setr list,
  |  setr list a,
  | hole,
  | append cms xedit setr list a,
  | append cms erase setr list a

 Work?

 Another possibility might be to simply enter the commands

From the CMS command line:   xedit temp file a (width 250
From the xedit command line: recfm v
 trunc *
 pipe cms rcx setr list

 | xedit

 If that works, then you could incorporate the commands entered in 
 XEDIT into an XEDIT macro or into PROFILE XEDIT

 Regards,
 Richard Schuh
-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


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Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Harding, Mike
Two things:
1.  Go into xedit first, on a dummy file.  If the recfm is f, change it
to v (xedit command: recfm v).  Then on the command line: pipe cms rac
setr list|xedit. This will put the output of the rac command directly
into your xedit session.  When you're done perusing it, just qquit.
2.  However, the rac command (exec, actually), in addition to displaying
the command output, creates a RACF DATA file on your A-disk containing
the command output.  Go ahead and let it scroll off your screen, then
just xedit racf data.


Mike Harding
EDS VM National Capability
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Clayton, Ca.  USA  94517-1742

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:31 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: PIPE Help (please)

Would adding a few lines like

Pipe | cms rcx setr list,
 |  setr list a,
 | hole,
 | append cms xedit setr list a,
 | append cms erase setr list a

Work? 

Another possibility might be to simply enter the commands

   From the CMS command line:   xedit temp file a (width 250
   From the xedit command line: recfm v
trunc *
pipe cms rcx setr list |
xedit

If that works, then you could incorporate the commands entered in XEDIT
into an XEDIT macro or into PROFILE XEDIT  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:45 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: PIPE Help (please)
 
 Place the XEDIT command outside the PIPE: when XEDIT starts, 
 the PIEP hasn't closed the file yet
 
 2008/2/7, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills multiple 
  screens
 
  and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results
 
  Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:
 
  pipe | cms rac setr list
   |  setr list a
   | cms xedit setr list a
   | cms erase setr list a
 
  This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when 
 xedit opens it.
 
 
  I've looked thru the pipe help menu and pipe ahelp menu and 
 not found 
  anything that helps that is obvious.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
 
 
 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 


SSL Server with two IP stacks?

2008-02-07 Thread Strasser, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We are installing z/VM 5.3 and the SSL Server. I could use some help
with a few items.

 

1.  We can't find any place to tell SSL Server that our TCP/IP
machine isn't named TCPIP. 
2.  Can a single SSL Server svm work with more than one stack
machine, or do we have to create one for each IP stack?
3.  We want to support both encrypted and unencrypted TN3270
sessions; can one stack do it, or are two required?

 

Thanks,

  Victor

Victor Strasser  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
VM and Linux Support Unit 
California Department of Technology Services 
Phone: 916-464-4522

 



Re: SSL Server with two IP stacks?

2008-02-07 Thread Adam Thornton


On Feb 7, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Strasser, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We are installing z/VM 5.3 and the SSL Server. I could use some help  
with a few items.


 We can’t find any place to tell SSL Server that our TCP/IP machine  
isn’t named “TCPIP”.


Does it need to know?  As long as PROFILE TCPIP for your stack knows  
how to talk to it, I don't think it matters.  Certainly under 4.4 I  
had SSLSERV listening to TCPIP2 and it wasn't a problem.


Can a single SSL Server svm work with more than one stack machine,  
or do we have to create one for each IP stack?


I've never tried to share one between stacks.  If you try it I'm  
interested to know what happens.


We want to support both encrypted and unencrypted TN3270 sessions;  
can one stack do it, or are two required?



One stack can do it.  On the same port, even, if you allow explicit  
TLS negotiation.


Adam

Re: SSL Server with two IP stacks?

2008-02-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 02:22 EST, Strasser, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are installing z/VM 5.3 and the SSL Server. I could use some help 
with a few 
 items.  
 
 We can?t find any place to tell SSL Server that our TCP/IP machine isn?t 
named 
 ?TCPIP?. 

I think he pulls the stack name from TCPIP DATA.

 Can a single SSL Server svm work with more than one stack machine, or do 
we 
 have to create one for each IP stack?

One per stack.

 We want to support both encrypted and unencrypted TN3270 sessions; can 
one 
 stack do it, or are two required?

One stack.  Since you have z/VM 5.3, you have dynamic SSL capabiity.  Most 
emulators will try to negotiate an SSL session, which z/VM 5.3 supports. 
If your emulator won't negotiate SSL, then you can use InternalClientParms 
to instruct the telnet server to listen on multiple ports.  Define one 
port as SECURE on the PORT statement.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Hodge, Robert L
Would the PIPE BROWSE do what you want? I don't have RACF, so I can't
try it.

Pipe cms rac setr list | browse 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:42 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: PIPE Help (please)

I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills multiple
screens

and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results

Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:

pipe | cms rac setr list
 |  setr list a 
 | cms xedit setr list a
 | cms erase setr list a

This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when xedit opens
it.


I've looked thru the pipe help menu and pipe ahelp menu and not found
anything that helps that is obvious.

Thanks in advance


Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-07 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Not that I know. If you have a comment line about a minidisk in from of a
MDISK statement, then if you move or change a minidisk allocation using
DATAMOVE, DIRMAINT will insert a new MDISK statement not following your
visual connection with the comment line, so don't use that technique.

On 08/02/2008, Horlick, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Greetings,



 We have a situation that has been annoying us for quite awhile now with
 regards to DIRMAINT. When we add MDISKs for a user (especially for a VSE
 user) we usually add comment statements just before the new MDISK. No
 problem, except when we later GET the directory entry the comments are in
 the wrong place.



 Example:



 I created a dummy user:



 USER TEST1 X1X2X 32M 128M G
 01300910

INCLUDE CMSSTD
 01300910

LINK RSCS 0191 0192 RR
 01300910

 *  THIS IS A
 COMMENT

 *  MDISK 0191 3380 1548 3 ST160D MR ALL
 01300910



 When I do a DIRM FOR TEST1 GET, I get back in my reader:



 USER TEST1 X1X2X 32M 128M G
 02071121

INCLUDE CMSSTD
 02071121

 *  THIS IS A COMMENT
 02071121

 *  MDISK 0191 3380 1548 3 ST160D MR ALL
 02071121

LINK RSCS 0191 0192 RR
02071121

 *DVHOPT LNK0 LOG1 RCM1 SMS0 NPW1 LNGAMENG PWC20080207
 CRCæE



 Why and how does DIRMAINT shuffle the directory entry sent to it and is
 there a way to stop it from doing so?



 Thanks,



 Mike





Re: FTP - how can I preserve date time?

2008-02-07 Thread Bob Henry
Does VMARC come as part of VM or does it have to be ordered/downloaded fr
om IBM?


Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread David Boyes
 I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills multiple
screens
 and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results
 Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:
 [snip]
 This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when xedit opens
it.

Try SET FULLSCREEN ON at the CMS command line. Not all commands use the
right I/O stuff to be pipe-friendly (particularly stuff brought over
from MVS like RACF). 

I don't care for fullscreen CMS much, but others like it.


Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
I've sent you my VX EXEC
 
VX a non-fullscreen CMS command
Output is displayed in XEDIT.
VX = View in Xedit

Example:  VX rac setr list

for CP commands you must do VX cp
like: VX cp q all



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Subject: PIPE Help (please)

I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills multiple
screens
and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results

Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:

pipe | cms rac setr list
 |  setr list a 
 | cms xedit setr list a
 | cms erase setr list a

This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when xedit opens
it.

I've looked thru the pipe help menu and pipe ahelp menu and not found
anything that helps that is obvious.

Thanks in advance


Re: TN3270 sessions

2008-02-07 Thread David Boyes
TCP/IP Planning and Configuration for your release. 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Edward M. Martin
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:33 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: TN3270 sessions

 

Hello Everyone,

 

 I read and listen.  What manual is the best place to start looking
for Encrypted/unencrypted TN3270 sessions?

 

 

 

Ed Martin

330-588-4723

ext 40441



Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Kris Buelens
Why so complicated???
 PIPE command rac setr list',
'|  setr list a'
 'XEDIT SETR LIST A'
 'ERASE SETR LIST A'
(but I repeat: probably not required fro RAC commands)

2008/2/7, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Would adding a few lines like

 Pipe | cms rcx setr list,
  |  setr list a,
  | hole,
  | append cms xedit setr list a,
  | append cms erase setr list a

 Work?

 Another possibility might be to simply enter the commands

From the CMS command line:   xedit temp file a (width 250
From the xedit command line: recfm v
 trunc *
 pipe cms rcx setr list |
 xedit

 If that works, then you could incorporate the commands entered in XEDIT
 into an XEDIT macro or into PROFILE XEDIT

 Regards,
 Richard Schuh
-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
Would adding a few lines like

Pipe | cms rcx setr list,
 |  setr list a,
 | hole,
 | append cms xedit setr list a,
 | append cms erase setr list a

Work? 

Another possibility might be to simply enter the commands

   From the CMS command line:   xedit temp file a (width 250
   From the xedit command line: recfm v
trunc *
pipe cms rcx setr list |
xedit

If that works, then you could incorporate the commands entered in XEDIT
into an XEDIT macro or into PROFILE XEDIT  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:45 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: PIPE Help (please)
 
 Place the XEDIT command outside the PIPE: when XEDIT starts, 
 the PIEP hasn't closed the file yet
 
 2008/2/7, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills multiple 
  screens
 
  and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results
 
  Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:
 
  pipe | cms rac setr list
   |  setr list a
   | cms xedit setr list a
   | cms erase setr list a
 
  This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when 
 xedit opens it.
 
 
  I've looked thru the pipe help menu and pipe ahelp menu and 
 not found 
  anything that helps that is obvious.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
 
 
 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 


Re: PIPE Help (please)

2008-02-07 Thread Kris Buelens
Oh yes, I hope there aren't any dangerous commands in the data
resulting from CSM RAC SETR LIST.  Because:
 -  The output of this RACF command is written to disk by the  stage
 -  The  stage then copies these data through to CMS XEDIT ...
 -  The CMS stage first executes the XEDIT command passed as parameter
then it executes all records that  passed through as command
 -  The last CMS stage first issues teh ERASE comand and then executes
the output
produced by the preceding CMS stage
In practice, these stages run concurrently, so it is not that first
the  stage writes all records and only then the CMS XEDIT stage
starts...
I'd recommend you our Pipes selfstudy Telecourse:
  http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2

2008/2/7, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Place the XEDIT command outside the PIPE: when XEDIT starts, the PIEP
 hasn't closed the file yet

 2008/2/7, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I am frustrated with commands generating data that fills multiple screens
 
  and not have the ability to scroll back and forth in the results
 
  Thus I thought I'd try something with PIPEs and came up with this:
 
  pipe | cms rac setr list
   |  setr list a
   | cms xedit setr list a
   | cms erase setr list a
 
  This seemed like it would work but the file is empty when xedit opens it.
 
 
  I've looked thru the pipe help menu and pipe ahelp menu and not found
  anything that helps that is obvious.
 
  Thanks in advance
 


 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support



-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: FTP - how can I preserve date time?

2008-02-07 Thread Ivica Brodaric
For a utility to list/view/extract VMARC archives FTP-ed to other platforms
in binary see here: http://www.homerow.net/zvm/vma.htm

On 08/02/2008, Bob Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does VMARC come as part of VM or does it have to be ordered/downloaded fr
 om IBM?



Re: TN3270 sessions

2008-02-07 Thread Edward M. Martin
Thanks to David and Alan.

 

Is there a REDBOOK available?

 

Ed Martin

330-588-4723

ext 40441



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Boyes
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:43 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: TN3270 sessions

 

TCP/IP Planning and Configuration for your release. 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Edward M. Martin
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:33 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: TN3270 sessions

 

Hello Everyone,

 

 I read and listen.  What manual is the best place to start looking
for Encrypted/unencrypted TN3270 sessions?

 

 

 

Ed Martin

330-588-4723

ext 40441



Re: FTP - how can I preserve date time?

2008-02-07 Thread Ivica Brodaric
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/

On 08/02/2008, Bob Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does VMARC come as part of VM or does it have to be ordered/downloaded fr
 om IBM?



Re: z/VM Installation from DVD

2008-02-07 Thread Kris Buelens
Nicely formatted REXX, quoted what need to be, CP commands targeted
directly to CP.  But.  Where is the ADDRESS COMMAND?  And why use
PIPE CMS instead of PIPE COMMAND?  Running with ADDRESS CMS and PIPE
CMS are two loaded guns too.
Why: read our free Telecourse
   http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM1

-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


2008/2/7, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Chris,


 Since you are a VM newbie (welcome!) I thought I might give you a simple 
 DDRCOPY EXEC so that you are all set. I found one in my archive. Exec doesn't 
 use minidisk passwords in LINK commands, so put OPTION LNKNOPAS in SYSDMPPR 
 profile or work around it (depends on your security requirements). This exec 
 uses another disk for backup. If you want to use a tape as output, you need 
 to replace the second LINK command with ATTACH command for the tape drive, 
 modify OUTPUT subcommand of DDR and replace 'COPY ALL' with 'DUMP ALL'.


 One warning: This is a loaded gun. Please be careful with those target_addr 
 parameters in DMPn EXECs previously mentioned. Maybe tell your co-worker 
 to read them aloud for you in a melodic voice after you did the same. ;-)



 /**
 *** Function: Copy a minidisk with DDR
 **/
arg userin addrin userout addrout disktype rest
if rest ^= ''
   then do
  say 'Invalid parameter:' rest'.'
  exit 3
  end
if disktype = ''
   then disktype = '3390'
if addrout = ''
   then do
  say 'Missing parameters.'
  say 'Format: DDRCOPY userin addrin userout addrout disktype'
  say '3390  '
  exit 4
  end
'CLRSCRN'
'MAKEBUF'
'GETFMADR'
if rc ^= 0 then exit rc
pull . fm1 addr1
'DROPBUF'
parse value diagrc(8, 'LINK' userin addrin addr1 'RR') with rc .
if rc ^= 0 then exit rc
'ACCESS' addr1 fm1
'MAKEBUF'
'GETFMADR'
pull . fm2 addr2
'DROPBUF'
parse value diagrc(8, 'LINK' userout addrout addr2 'M') with rc .
if rc ^= 0 then exit rc
'MAKEBUF'
queue 'SYSPRINT CONS'
queue 'INPUT' addr1 disktype
queue 'OUTPUT' addr2 disktype
queue 'COPY ALL'
queue 'YES'
 queue 'YES'
queue
call time 'R'
'DDR'
src = rc
'DROPBUF'
'ACCESS' addr1 fm1
'ACCESS' addr2 fm2
'PIPE CMS Q DISK' fm1'|CONS'
'PIPE CMS Q DISK' fm2'|TAKE LAST|CONS'
'RELEASE' fm1
'RELEASE' fm2
call diag 8, 'DETACH' addr1
call diag 8, 'DETACH' addr2
say 'Elapsed time:' time('E')
'CP SLEEP 1 SEC'
exit src


 Ivica Brodaric
 Not with Tabcorp anymore
 (not because of this exec - mainframe is not with Tabcorp anymore either)



 On 08/02/2008, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you create a PROFILE EXEC on 191 that checks who's running and invokes 
  another exec if it's a dumper machine, e.g.:
 
 
  if userid() /= 'DMPADMIN' then do
'CP SP CON DMPADMIN'
 'EXEC' userid()
 'CP LOGOFF'
 end
 
 
  and create userid EXEC for every dumper machine that you are actually 
  going to use and that contains something simple (you are going to maintain 
  this), e.g.:
 
 
  ' EXEC DDRCOPY $VOLS$ source_addr $VOLS$ target_addr'
 
 
  then you only need to write a DDRCOPY EXEC that will link source and target 
  minidisks and invoke DDR program.
 
 
  From here you only need to maintain userid EXEC's from dump maintenance 
  machine and autolog dumper machines to do the work.
 
 
 
 
   On 08/02/2008, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  And if you move 191 minidisk from dumper machines to maintenance 
   userid, and add a link to that minidisk as 191 RR to SYSDMPPR profile, 
   you can define a pool of dumper machines, e.g.:
  
  
   USER DMP password 5M 25M G
   POOL LOW 0 HIGH 99 PROFILE SYSDMPPR
  
  
  
   On 08/02/2008, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you can get them to use a common profile, and possibly run a 
script or
control file that matches the userid, then there'd really be no need 
for the
writable 191 in each dumper virtual machine. You could place the 191 
under
 either $VOLS$ or some other maintenance user, and have the 
profile just
link it rr as well.
   
We do this with all our Linux guests; they share a single 191 minidisk, 
and
the profile accounts for any differences that may be required.
   
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  in practice, theory and practice are different.
   
   
   
   
On 2/6/08 3:25 PM, Aria Bamdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:44:02 -0500 Hilliard, Chris said:
 
 I need a short lesson on backing up DASD volumes using DDR.

 

Re: Anybody using a multi-sysres concept for maintenance?

2008-02-07 Thread Mark Wheeler
Tobias,

I store multiple (5-6) versions of CPLOAD MODULE on the parm disk (MAINT
CF1). Names are in the format CPyymmdd MODULE, where yymmdd is
typically the date the module was generated. After application of
maintenance, I copy the new CPLOAD MODULE (found on MAINT 493/193) to CF1
with the new name, then run an EXEC I wrote called NEWCPNUC, which builds a
SALIPL command and runs it. When the operator IPL's the Standalone Program
Loader, they see a screen like this:
 STAND ALONE PROGRAM LOADER: z/VM VERSION 5 RELEASE 3.0
 DEVICE NUMBER:   0260   MINIDISK OFFSET:      EXTENT:  1
 MODULE NAME: CP071030   LOAD ORIGIN:   1000
 IPL
PARAMETERS

---COMMENTS---
If problems, use backout module CP070911.
Module CP070911 was loaded from minidisk on volume V1SRES at cylinder 241.
Parm disk number 1 is on volume V1SRES, cylinders 241 through 340.

--
 9= FILELIST  10= LOAD  11= TOGGLE EXTENT/OFFSET

Note that you should have more than one parm disk (CF2, CF3, ...), living
on more than one volume (just in case).

If interested, I can share the NEWCPNUC EXEC code.

Mark L. Wheeler
IT Infrastructure, 3M Center B224-4N-20, St Paul MN 55144
Tel:  (651) 733-4355, Fax:  (651) 736-7689
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hi list,

is there anybody out there using a multi-sysres-concept for activating
maintenance? we are a mvs shop. so i would like to adopt some processes for
maintaining vm. normally we build up a sysres in our maintenance
environment. after some testing we deploy this sysres to all
systems/sysplexes and bring it up by ipling the image. parameters, ckpt,
etc
are separated from the sysres.

i would like to share my thoughts and code to perform this process
automated.

regards,

tobias.


Re: TN3270 sessions

2008-02-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 04:27 EST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Key points to understand that the VM implementation is a transparent 
wrapper 
 around the basic service, so telnet, SMTP, etc don?t really know it?s 
there. In 
 5.3, some of the servers and clients have been modified to support 
awareness of 
 TLS (transport layer security), but not all. 

The FTP client and server, TELNET client and server, and SMTP all support 
transition of a clear-text session to an SSL/TLS-protected session.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: RSCS and TCPNJE Question

2008-02-07 Thread Colleen Brown
Jerry,
Check out Info APAR II14360.  It discusses just such a situation. 
You may need JES2 APAR OA22718

Colleen M Brown 
IBM z/VM and Related Products Development and Service 

Re: RSCS and TCPNJE Question

2008-02-07 Thread Raymond Noal
Jerry,
 
I don't have a TCPNJE setup as you do. When I had RSCS talking with
other z/OS systems in other LPARs I used CTCs. However, to send a job to
a z/OS LPAR I used this REXX/EXEC - 
 
'cp spool 00d rscs';
 'cp tag dev 00d zs03jes2 job';  
 
Of interest is to TAG your punch to the z/OS nodename (zs03jes2 in my
case) and identify that the spooled file is to be given to z/OS as a
job. Without using the JOB option, the file should end up on the z/OS
spool, IIRC.
 
HTH
 
HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 
 


From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:50 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: RSCS and TCPNJE Question
 
Seems to be my week to be full of questions.
 
We are setting up RSCS to talk to z/OS over a TCPNJE link. We have
successfully sent files from z/OS to VM using xmit and they end up in
the rdr queue of the user as expected. If we send from VM to z/OS we are
finding the files are hung up in the TCPIP rdr queue.
 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:46:18

sf profile exec to jwhi00v at sftec1

File PROFILE EXEC A1 sent to JWHI00V at SFTEC1 on 02/07/08 14:46:25

Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:46:25

q rdr tcpip

ORIGINID FILE CLASS RECORDS  CPY HOLD USERFORM OPERFORM DEST KEEP
MSG
HMCCO00  0046 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
HMCCO00  0047 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
JWHIT00  0048 A PUN 0008 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
HMCCO00  0049 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
HMCCO00  0050 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
JWHIT00  0051 A PUN 0008 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
 
However display commands to JES2 on the z/OS side are sent (and
responses delivered back) sucessfully. Can anyone give some pointers
where to look. (Note ESM is RACF if it matters).
 
Thanks
 
 
 
Jerry Whitteridge
Mainframe Engineering
Safeway Inc
925 951 4184
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Re: z/VM Installation from DVD

2008-02-07 Thread Ivica Brodaric
And if you move 191 minidisk from dumper machines to maintenance userid, and
add a link to that minidisk as 191 RR to SYSDMPPR profile, you can define a
pool of dumper machines, e.g.:
USER DMP password 5M 25M G
POOL LOW 0 HIGH 99 PROFILE SYSDMPPR

On 08/02/2008, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you can get them to use a common profile, and possibly run a script or
 control file that matches the userid, then there'd really be no need for
 the
 writable 191 in each dumper virtual machine. You could place the 191 under
 either $VOLS$ or some other maintenance user, and have the profile just
 link it rr as well.

 We do this with all our Linux guests; they share a single 191 minidisk,
 and
 the profile accounts for any differences that may be required.

 --
.~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation
/V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW
   /( )\   507-284-0844  Rochester, MN 55905
   ^^-^^   -
 In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
  in practice, theory and practice are different.




 On 2/6/08 3:25 PM, Aria Bamdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:44:02 -0500 Hilliard, Chris said:
 
  I need a short lesson on backing up DASD volumes using DDR.
 
  snip
 
  Chris,
 
  Others have made good suggestions.  Over time, you may have more DASD
  that you want to dump or use multiple virtual machines that you want to
  use simultaniously to dump from.  Here is one way to address that:
 
  Define one dummy user that owns a full pack minidisk on each volume:
 
  USER $VOLS$  NOLOG
ACCOUNT SYSTEM SYSTEM
MDISK A00 3390  3339 VOLA00 RR
MDISK A01 3390  3339 VOLA01 RR
MDISK A02 3390  3339 VOLA02 RR
MDISK A03 3390  3339 VOLA03 RR
MDISK A04 3390  3339 VOLA04 RR
 
 
  Now define multiple dump users that do the dumping to tape.  These users
  will have access to the dummy account disks above.  To make it simpler,
  just define a user profile first then use that in each dump account:
 
 
  PROFILE SYSDMPPR
  *  Profile for SYSDUMP users
ACCOUNT SYSUTIL SYSTEM
MACHINE XC
IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR
CONSOLE 009 3215
SPOOL 00C 2540 READER *
SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH  A
SPOOL 00E 1403 A
LINK MAINT 190 190 RR
LINK MAINT 19E 19E RR
LINK $VOLS$ A00 A00 RR
LINK $VOLS$ A01 A01 RR
LINK $VOLS$ A02 A02 RR
LINK $VOLS$ A03 A03 RR
LINK $VOLS$ A04 A04 RR
 
  Now each new dump account can be define using:
 
  USER SYSDUMP PASSWORD 5M 25M G
INCLUDE SYSDMPPR
MDISK 191 3390   zz W
*
  USER SYSDUMP2 PASSWORD 5M 25M G
INCLUDE SYSDMPPR
MDISK 191 3390   zz W
 
 
  Now each dump account has a virtual address that matches the real
  address of a real DASD.  You can then do a DDR with input statements
  that point to the virtual address.
 
  Remember to never make this LINK or MDISK statements in write mode.
  Everything
  should be in read only mode.
 
  Aria



Re: TN3270 sessions

2008-02-07 Thread David Boyes
 Any final words of wisdom?

Other than that SSL's dependency on certificates is an enormous PITA?
8-)

Finding and deploying SSL-enabled clients will be your next big battle. 

Also, note that the SSLSERV code does NOT use OpenSSL as a base, so it
doesn't know about any of the IBM crypto hardware. If you have lots of
connect/disconnect style apps, that can hurt in terms of CPU (the
initial exchange is the expensive part of a SSL handshake). 


Re: TN3270 sessions

2008-02-07 Thread Steve Mitchell
Any final words of wisdom?

Steve Mitchell
Sr Systems Software Specialist
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas
(785) 291-8885

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Help Wanted

2008-02-07 Thread Peter Carrier
We're looking for two folks who can help with some PL/1 programming and 

some pipelines programming.  At this time I don't know the scope of the 

projects.  Please contact me off list if you are interested.

If this is inappropriate here would someone please point me to the best 

place to post this?

Thanks in advance,

Peter


Re: RSCS and TCPNJE Question

2008-02-07 Thread Harding, Mike
I think you need to look at your system netid file.  Do an Identify
and see what's returned.  That's what sendfile uses to determine the
name of your network machine (where to send the file being sent).  It
should be the name of your rscs machine, but it looks as though it's
returning tcpip.
 

Mike Harding 
EDS VM National Capability 
134 El Portal Place 
Clayton, Ca.  USA  94517-1742 

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(personal) 
Note:  For 2008, I am off on Fridays with odd Julian dates and Mondays
with even ones. 

 




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:50 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: RSCS and TCPNJE Question


Seems to be my week to be full of questions.
 
We are setting up RSCS to talk to z/OS over a TCPNJE link. We
have successfully sent files from z/OS to VM using xmit and they end up
in the rdr queue of the user as expected. If we send from VM to z/OS we
are finding the files are hung up in the TCPIP rdr queue.
 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:46:18

sf profile exec to jwhi00v at sftec1

File PROFILE EXEC A1 sent to JWHI00V at SFTEC1 on 02/07/08
14:46:25  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:46:25

q rdr tcpip

ORIGINID FILE CLASS RECORDS  CPY HOLD USERFORM OPERFORM DEST
KEEP MSG
HMCCO00  0046 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF
OFF  OFF
HMCCO00  0047 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF
OFF  OFF
JWHIT00  0048 A PUN 0008 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF
OFF  OFF
HMCCO00  0049 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF
OFF  OFF
HMCCO00  0050 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF
OFF  OFF
JWHIT00  0051 A PUN 0008 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF
OFF  OFF
 
However display commands to JES2 on the z/OS side are sent (and
responses delivered back) sucessfully. Can anyone give some pointers
where to look. (Note ESM is RACF if it matters).
 
Thanks
 
 
 

Jerry Whitteridge

Mainframe Engineering

Safeway Inc

925 951 4184

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Re: TN3270 sessions

2008-02-07 Thread David Boyes
Not that I know of, but we put together an appliance to simplify the
Linux part of the setup (free download after a small hoop to jump
through, see http://sinenomine.net/vm/sslenabler), and the IBM
documentation covers most of the other issues you actually care about.
Most of the hard parts are getting the Linux system set up, so skip that
part and just use the enabler system. 

 

Key points to understand that the VM implementation is a transparent
wrapper around the basic service, so telnet, SMTP, etc don't really know
it's there. In 5.3, some of the servers and clients have been modified
to support awareness of TLS (transport layer security), but not all. 

 

The hardest thing will be dealing with certificates. X.509 is a *bear*
to understand, but the important point is that you need a certificate to
identify the system that matches the host name you use for that system.
It's easier in terms of deployment to use one that is generated by an
external certificate authority (look in your copy of Windows for the
default companies), but not required. Get it, import it, and go through
the configuration steps in the docs. After that, you can start the hunt
for clients that implement requesting SSL-protected services. 

 



Re: Help Wanted

2008-02-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
You might try posting here http://www.velocity-software.com/jobs/

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Carrier
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:26 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Help Wanted
 
 We're looking for two folks who can help with some PL/1 
 programming and =
 
 some pipelines programming.  At this time I don't know the 
 scope of the =
 
 projects.  Please contact me off list if you are interested.
 
 If this is inappropriate here would someone please point me 
 to the best =
 
 place to post this?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Peter
 


Anybody using a multi-sysres concept for maintenance?

2008-02-07 Thread Tobias Doerkes
hi list,

is there anybody out there using a multi-sysres-concept for activating
maintenance? we are a mvs shop. so i would like to adopt some processes f
or
maintaining vm. normally we build up a sysres in our maintenance
environment. after some testing we deploy this sysres to all
systems/sysplexes and bring it up by ipling the image. parameters, ckpt, 
etc
are separated from the sysres.

i would like to share my thoughts and code to perform this process automa
ted.

regards,

tobias.


RSCS and TCPNJE Question

2008-02-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Seems to be my week to be full of questions.
 
We are setting up RSCS to talk to z/OS over a TCPNJE link. We have
successfully sent files from z/OS to VM using xmit and they end up in
the rdr queue of the user as expected. If we send from VM to z/OS we are
finding the files are hung up in the TCPIP rdr queue.
 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:46:18

sf profile exec to jwhi00v at sftec1

File PROFILE EXEC A1 sent to JWHI00V at SFTEC1 on 02/07/08 14:46:25

Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:46:25

q rdr tcpip

ORIGINID FILE CLASS RECORDS  CPY HOLD USERFORM OPERFORM DEST KEEP
MSG
HMCCO00  0046 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
HMCCO00  0047 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
JWHIT00  0048 A PUN 0008 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
HMCCO00  0049 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
HMCCO00  0050 A PUN 0175 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
JWHIT00  0051 A PUN 0008 001 NONE STANDARD STANDARD OFF  OFF
OFF
 
However display commands to JES2 on the z/OS side are sent (and
responses delivered back) sucessfully. Can anyone give some pointers
where to look. (Note ESM is RACF if it matters).
 
Thanks
 
 
 

 Jerry Whitteridge

Mainframe Engineering

Safeway Inc

925 951 4184

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Re: FTP - how can I preserve date time?

2008-02-07 Thread Bob Henry
Follow-up question:

I have VMARC working well, but is there any way to decompress the archive

file at the foreign (VM) site using an FTP subcommand? I use the CMS
subcommand to issue local CMS commands, but without getting into a separa
te
REXEC procedure, is there any FTP subcommand equivalent to CMS for the
remote site?


Re: TN3270 sessions

2008-02-07 Thread Adam Thornton

On Feb 7, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Steve Mitchell wrote:


Any final words of wisdom?


Neither a borrower nor a lender be.  Objects in mirror are closer than  
they appear.  The just regardeth the lives of his beasts, but the  
bowels of the wicked are cruel.


Adam


Re: z/VM Installation from DVD

2008-02-07 Thread Ivica Brodaric
If you create a PROFILE EXEC on 191 that checks who's running and invokes
another exec if it's a dumper machine, e.g.:
if userid() /= 'DMPADMIN' then do
  'CP SP CON DMPADMIN'
   'EXEC' userid()
   'CP LOGOFF'
   end

and create userid EXEC for every dumper machine that you are actually
going to use and that contains something simple (you are going to maintain
this), e.g.:

' EXEC DDRCOPY $VOLS$ source_addr $VOLS$ target_addr'

then you only need to write a DDRCOPY EXEC that will link source and target
minidisks and invoke DDR program.

From here you only need to maintain userid EXEC's from dump maintenance
machine and autolog dumper machines to do the work.

On 08/02/2008, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And if you move 191 minidisk from dumper machines to maintenance userid,
 and add a link to that minidisk as 191 RR to SYSDMPPR profile, you can
 define a pool of dumper machines, e.g.:
 USER DMP password 5M 25M G
 POOL LOW 0 HIGH 99 PROFILE SYSDMPPR

 On 08/02/2008, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you can get them to use a common profile, and possibly run a script
  or
  control file that matches the userid, then there'd really be no need for
  the
  writable 191 in each dumper virtual machine. You could place the 191
  under
  either $VOLS$ or some other maintenance user, and have the profile
  just
  link it rr as well.
 
  We do this with all our Linux guests; they share a single 191 minidisk,
  and
  the profile accounts for any differences that may be required.
 
  --
 .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation
 /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW
/( )\   507-284-0844  Rochester, MN 55905
^^-^^   -
  In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
   in practice, theory and practice are different.
 
 
 
 
  On 2/6/08 3:25 PM, Aria Bamdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:44:02 -0500 Hilliard, Chris said:
  
   I need a short lesson on backing up DASD volumes using DDR.
  
   snip
  
   Chris,
  
   Others have made good suggestions.  Over time, you may have more DASD
   that you want to dump or use multiple virtual machines that you want
  to
   use simultaniously to dump from.  Here is one way to address that:
  
   Define one dummy user that owns a full pack minidisk on each volume:
  
   USER $VOLS$  NOLOG
 ACCOUNT SYSTEM SYSTEM
 MDISK A00 3390  3339 VOLA00 RR
 MDISK A01 3390  3339 VOLA01 RR
 MDISK A02 3390  3339 VOLA02 RR
 MDISK A03 3390  3339 VOLA03 RR
 MDISK A04 3390  3339 VOLA04 RR
  
  
   Now define multiple dump users that do the dumping to tape.  These
  users
   will have access to the dummy account disks above.  To make it
  simpler,
   just define a user profile first then use that in each dump account:
  
  
   PROFILE SYSDMPPR
   *  Profile for SYSDUMP users
 ACCOUNT SYSUTIL SYSTEM
 MACHINE XC
 IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR
 CONSOLE 009 3215
 SPOOL 00C 2540 READER *
 SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH  A
 SPOOL 00E 1403 A
 LINK MAINT 190 190 RR
 LINK MAINT 19E 19E RR
 LINK $VOLS$ A00 A00 RR
 LINK $VOLS$ A01 A01 RR
 LINK $VOLS$ A02 A02 RR
 LINK $VOLS$ A03 A03 RR
 LINK $VOLS$ A04 A04 RR
  
   Now each new dump account can be define using:
  
   USER SYSDUMP PASSWORD 5M 25M G
 INCLUDE SYSDMPPR
 MDISK 191 3390   zz W
 *
   USER SYSDUMP2 PASSWORD 5M 25M G
 INCLUDE SYSDMPPR
 MDISK 191 3390   zz W
  
  
   Now each dump account has a virtual address that matches the real
   address of a real DASD.  You can then do a DDR with input statements
   that point to the virtual address.
  
   Remember to never make this LINK or MDISK statements in write mode.
   Everything
   should be in read only mode.
  
   Aria
 





FTP - how can I preserve date time?

2008-02-07 Thread Bob Henry
Is there any way to preserve file date  time when I ftp from one z/V
M to
another z/VM?


Re: Anybody using a multi-sysres concept for maintenance?

2008-02-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
I maintain a production sysres that is not a part of the maintenance
system. This disk does not have to be replaced when the release or
version of VM changes. It has the Parm disk, the object directory, the
checkpoint and warm start areas on it. When I am ready to put a new CP
in production, I simply rename the current CPLOAD MODULE that in on the
PARM disk, calling it CPOLD, and copy the new module to the disk. It is
always a good idea to keep the old nucleus, changing its name but
retaining the filetype MODULE. That makes fallback easy, you simply IPL
the previous nucleus. 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias Doerkes
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:31 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Anybody using a multi-sysres concept for maintenance?
 
 hi list,
 
 is there anybody out there using a multi-sysres-concept for 
 activating maintenance? we are a mvs shop. so i would like to 
 adopt some processes f= or maintaining vm. normally we build 
 up a sysres in our maintenance environment. after some 
 testing we deploy this sysres to all systems/sysplexes and 
 bring it up by ipling the image. parameters, ckpt, = etc are 
 separated from the sysres.
 
 i would like to share my thoughts and code to perform this 
 process automa= ted.
 
 regards,
 
 tobias.
 


Re: RSCS and TCPNJE Question

2008-02-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 06:28 EST, Harding, Mike 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you need to look at your system netid file.   Do an Identify 
and see 
 what's returned.  That's what sendfile uses to  determine the name of 
your 
 network machine (where to send the file being  sent).  It should be the 
name of 
 your rscs machine, but it looks as though  it's returning tcpip.

To put a finer point on it, a SYSTEM NETID file must have at least one 
entry if you want to use RSCS:
nn MYNODE   RSCS

nn is your CPU ID.  MYNODE (whatever you decide it is) must be 
configured in RSCS as the local NJE node name.  RSCS is the user ID of the 
RSCS virtual machine.

This is where IDENTIFY gets its information.  To wit:
  TCPMAINT AT MYNODE   VIA RSCS 2008-02-07 18:35:28 EST  THURSDAY

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: FTP - how can I preserve date time?

2008-02-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 04:52 EST, Bob Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Follow-up question:
 
 I have VMARC working well, but is there any way to decompress the 
archive
 file at the foreign (VM) site using an FTP subcommand? I use the CMS
 subcommand to issue local CMS commands, but without getting into a 
separate
 REXEC procedure, is there any FTP subcommand equivalent to CMS for the
 remote site?

No, there is no way to persuade the FTP server at the far end to issue a 
command on your behalf.  You could FTP it to the RDR of the target user 
who could be waiting for a RDR file to RECEIVE and unpack.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: RSCS and TCPNJE Question

2008-02-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
And another finer point (a finer finer point?)

Your CPU ID may not be what you think it is.
Get the value from Q CPUID - columns 2 through 8.   The LPAR number gets
thrown in there.

One of mine:
q cpuid 
CPUID = FF06784A20948000
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 15:43:58 

So I put 06784A in the system netid file.
Don't forget to resave CMS after updating the file on both your MAINT
490 and 190 disks (if you don't put it on the 490 PUT2PROD will copy the
wrong one to your 190 next time you do maintenance).



Marcy Cortes 

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Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:37 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] RSCS and TCPNJE Question

On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 06:28 EST, Harding, Mike 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you need to look at your system netid file.   Do an Identify

and see 
 what's returned.  That's what sendfile uses to  determine the name of
your 
 network machine (where to send the file being  sent).  It should be 
 the
name of 
 your rscs machine, but it looks as though  it's returning tcpip.

To put a finer point on it, a SYSTEM NETID file must have at least one
entry if you want to use RSCS:
nn MYNODE   RSCS

nn is your CPU ID.  MYNODE (whatever you decide it is) must be
configured in RSCS as the local NJE node name.  RSCS is the user ID of
the RSCS virtual machine.

This is where IDENTIFY gets its information.  To wit:
  TCPMAINT AT MYNODE   VIA RSCS 2008-02-07 18:35:28 EST
THURSDAY

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: RSCS and TCPNJE Question

2008-02-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Changed the system netid and now appears to be working 

Thanks 

Jerry Whitteridge
Safeway Inc
925 951 4184
  

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:37 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSCS and TCPNJE Question
 
 On Thursday, 02/07/2008 at 06:28 EST, Harding, Mike 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think you need to look at your system netid file.   Do an 
 Identify 
 and see 
  what's returned.  That's what sendfile uses to  determine 
 the name of 
 your 
  network machine (where to send the file being  sent).  It 
 should be the 
 name of 
  your rscs machine, but it looks as though  it's returning tcpip.
 
 To put a finer point on it, a SYSTEM NETID file must have at 
 least one 
 entry if you want to use RSCS:
 nn MYNODE   RSCS
 
 nn is your CPU ID.  MYNODE (whatever you decide it is) must be 
 configured in RSCS as the local NJE node name.  RSCS is the 
 user ID of the 
 RSCS virtual machine.
 
 This is where IDENTIFY gets its information.  To wit:
   TCPMAINT AT MYNODE   VIA RSCS 2008-02-07 18:35:28 EST   
THURSDAY
 
 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott
 
 

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Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-07 Thread Bruce Hayden
In your CONFIG* DATADVH file for DIRMAINT, do you have
SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS=YES?  If so, you probably want to change it to
no.  I think the comments are moving when the directory entry is
sorted.  There are some other sorting options that can be specified -
you may want to look at those.

On Feb 7, 2008 11:30 AM, Horlick, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Greetings,



 We have a situation that has been annoying us for quite awhile now with
 regards to DIRMAINT. When we add MDISKs for a user (especially for a VSE
 user) we usually add comment statements just before the new MDISK. No
 problem, except when we later GET the directory entry the comments are in
 the wrong place.



 Example:



 I created a dummy user:



 USER TEST1 X1X2X 32M 128M G
 01300910

INCLUDE CMSSTD
 01300910

LINK RSCS 0191 0192 RR
 01300910

 *  THIS IS A COMMENT

 *  MDISK 0191 3380 1548 3 ST160D MR ALL
 01300910



 When I do a DIRM FOR TEST1 GET, I get back in my reader:



 USER TEST1 X1X2X 32M 128M G
 02071121

INCLUDE CMSSTD
 02071121

 *  THIS IS A COMMENT
 02071121

 *  MDISK 0191 3380 1548 3 ST160D MR ALL
 02071121

LINK RSCS 0191 0192 RR
 02071121

 *DVHOPT LNK0 LOG1 RCM1 SMS0 NPW1 LNGAMENG PWC20080207 CRCæE



 Why and how does DIRMAINT shuffle the directory entry sent to it and is
 there a way to stop it from doing so?



 Thanks,



 Mike





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