Re: Multiple zVM Lpars - Resource consumption

[Kris Buelens]

> and don't forget SFS packs (I keep SFS space on their own packs).

Many people do indeed work like that.  Be careful a bit: SFS knows on
which packs its minidisks are located.  It will only request 1 I/O per
pack.
So, if you have a small SFS, all its minidisks could fit on a single
pack, but as a consequence the SFS server will have a limited IO
bandwidth.

--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: Find command

[Kris Buelens]

>What is the harm in updating the reference date when one peruses a file to
see if it contains specific data strings?  If one uses the last reference
date to see if a file (e.g. a program, REXX exec) is still being used, such
a scanning process should not update it.  It never is a "real" use.  At the
other hand, we had a discussion with SAS several years ago: they used
OLDDATEREF, and running SAS programs surely is "real" usage.
GETFILES will not use OLDDATEREF, it has no parameters, and OLDDATEREF would
never be a good default.

Kris Buelens
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

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Fwd: DMSITP143T.... CONWAIT

[P S]

Meant this to go to the list...stupid GMAIL.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Jan Canavan wrote:
> Has anyone run across this error with Focus and CMS?
>
> I'm told this has been running "fine" since 1998.
>
> z/VM 5.3
>
> Focus Database Management/Query System  Information Builders    Install level 
> =7.08R,7.11
>
>
>
> DMSITP143T Specification exception occurred at 030C in system routine 
> CONWAIT; re-IPL CMS
> HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A 80F3F692

Given the address listed, I'm guessing CONWAIT isn't really involved:
the virtual machine was in CONWAIT waiting for an interrupt and loaded
a bad PSW (probably odd).

If it's reproducible, I'd run with TRACE PROG 6 CMD VMDUMP 0-END DSS
and see if IBI or IBM will look at the dump (well, *I* would look at
it myself, but I've spent a lot of time in the bowels of CMS, which
I'm guessing you haven't).

Note that running with that TRACE isn't very expensive, so if it's an
interrmittent failure, you might be able to run with it until it does
re-occur. Just be sure that the PROG6 you see is a real one, not
something testing to see if a feature is available (and trapping the
exception and continuing)!

DMSITP143T.... CONWAIT

[Jan Canavan]

Has anyone run across this error with Focus and CMS?

I'm told this has been running "fine" since 1998.

z/VM 5.3

Focus Database Management/Query System  Information BuildersInstall level 
=7.08R,7.11   



DMSITP143T Specification exception occurred at 030C in system routine 
CONWAIT; re-IPL CMS
HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A 80F3F692

Jan Canavan
canav...@earthlink.net
VSE/VM SYSTEMS PROGRAMMER

Re: Multiple zVM Lpars - Resource consumption

[Rob van der Heij]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Romanowski, John
(OFT) wrote:

> We find the extra work/complexity of maintaining 2 z/VM LPARs is outweighed 
> by the benefits of isolating the workloads and being able to schedule outages 
> on each LPAR independently of each other.

Very true. As you point out the overhead in CPU and memory is very
reasonable. Part of the added complexity in my opinion is performance
management (what else could it be ;-)  When you share a resource, you
have to measure usage and manage that. Without it, you may think you
have isolated your workload while in fact you're making it harder to
understand why it runs slow.

Rob
-- 
Rob van der Heij
Velocity Software
http://www.velocitysoftware.com/

Re: Multiple zVM Lpars - Resource consumption

[Tom Duerbusch]

I agree of most of the points, but there is a lot more to memory for VM than 64 
MB, but that is up to you.

1.  You will have a duplicate area for MDC.  I don't know.  Are you planning on 
decreasing MDC on LPAR0 to give to LPAR1 or just duplicate it.  I use 100 MB 
for MDC on each of two LPARs, but without a performance tool, I don't know if I 
have over allocated it or under allocated it.

2.  Expanded Storage.  You need some if you are a VM paging environment.  Did 
you reduce the size on LPAR0 to give to LPAR1?  Or not?  If you are talking 
about 25% of storage for expanded storage, that dwarfs any other VM usage of 
storage, well other than paging.

VM only needs 2 3390-3 drivesthat is until you add 5-6 paging packs, and a 
couple spool packs, and don't forget SFS packs (I keep SFS space on their own 
packs).  And there may or may not be a "dump" pack as well as "t-disk" pack(s).

Back on storage, with poor planning, you can end up with another GB of memory 
for overhead functions.  That might be painful. 

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> "Romanowski, John (OFT)"  7/22/2009 2:49 PM >>>
I have a site like you describe:
 2 z/VM LPARs sharing all the IFLs, also sharing channels to dasd, tape, etc.
One LPAR for test/development Linux guests, the second for production linux 
guests.
The PRSM overhead seems negligible, 0.5-0.6%.
The memory for linux guests dwarfs the memory needed to run z/VM OS, 64M or 
whatever the manual says now for z/VM.
We give the production LPAR a higher partition weight than test/dev LPAR and 
more central and expanded storage than the test/dev LPAR.

We find the extra work/complexity of maintaining 2 z/VM LPARs is outweighed by 
the benefits of isolating the workloads and being able to schedule outages on 
each LPAR independently of each other.


> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Mark Jacobs
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:18 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
> Subject: Multiple zVM Lpars - Resource consumption
>
> Can anyone give me an estimate on additional resource consumption if we
> take one z/VM lpar with 'x' IFL's, 'y' GB of memory and 'z' Linux
> guests
> and we create an additional z/VM lpar sharing some/all of the IFL's,
> taking some amount of the memory and some of the zLinux guests.
>
> I know that we will have some amount of PRSM overhead and there will be
> some increase in real storage needed for the additional z/VM operating
> system and some additional DASD requirements. I'm looking for some
> numbers I can take to management and if I missed something for the
> additional resources needed to support the new z/VM lpar,
>
> --
> Mark Jacobs
> Time Customer Service
> Tampa, FL
> 
>
> You can have any kind of a home you want. You can even
> get stucco. Oh, how you can get stucco.
>
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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

[Mike Walter]

Sergio,

You sound relatively new to z/VM.  I'm not sure it will help directly in 
this case, but it might be of general help to examine the redpaper 
"Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM" found at: 

 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4507.html?Open&pdfbookmark

There are CP directory examples and other tips related to running (more 
than one) z/OS under z/VM. 

Have you opened a PMR with IBM to determine the cause of the VTAM abend in 
z/OS while it is running under z/VM?

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.

"The IBM z/VM Operating System"  wrote on 
07/22/2009 10:22:58 AM:

> Hi List,
> 
> We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only 
> class G in the VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a 
> problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
> The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
> Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS 
> un der ZVM ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sergio
> 
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> > From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > 
> > >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of 
> the privilege classes
> > >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, 
> but I don't think z/OS
> > >needs all that.
> > 
> > It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of 
> them used to have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we 
> replaced that with the MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became 
available.
> > Dennis O'Brien
> > 
> > "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 
> 11, 20 July 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.
> EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > 
> > >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  
wrote: 
> > 
> > -snip-
> > > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no 
> problem, but when 
> > > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> > > 
> > > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> > > 
> > > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
> > -snip-
> > > 
> > > Someone already saw this ?
> > 
> > The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I 
> would seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes 
> from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I
> don't think z/OS needs all that.
> > 
> > 
> > Mark Post
> 
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Re: Multiple zVM Lpars - Resource consumption

[Romanowski, John (OFT)]

I have a site like you describe:
 2 z/VM LPARs sharing all the IFLs, also sharing channels to dasd, tape, etc.
One LPAR for test/development Linux guests, the second for production linux 
guests.
The PRSM overhead seems negligible, 0.5-0.6%.
The memory for linux guests dwarfs the memory needed to run z/VM OS, 64M or 
whatever the manual says now for z/VM.
We give the production LPAR a higher partition weight than test/dev LPAR and 
more central and expanded storage than the test/dev LPAR.

We find the extra work/complexity of maintaining 2 z/VM LPARs is outweighed by 
the benefits of isolating the workloads and being able to schedule outages on 
each LPAR independently of each other.


> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Mark Jacobs
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:18 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Multiple zVM Lpars - Resource consumption
>
> Can anyone give me an estimate on additional resource consumption if we
> take one z/VM lpar with 'x' IFL's, 'y' GB of memory and 'z' Linux
> guests
> and we create an additional z/VM lpar sharing some/all of the IFL's,
> taking some amount of the memory and some of the zLinux guests.
>
> I know that we will have some amount of PRSM overhead and there will be
> some increase in real storage needed for the additional z/VM operating
> system and some additional DASD requirements. I'm looking for some
> numbers I can take to management and if I missed something for the
> additional resources needed to support the new z/VM lpar,
>
> --
> Mark Jacobs
> Time Customer Service
> Tampa, FL
> 
>
> You can have any kind of a home you want. You can even
> get stucco. Oh, how you can get stucco.
>
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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

[Mike Walter]

Sergio,

Our mainframe network guy suggests that some messages on the z/OS log 
before what you included might have indicated the beginning of the 
problem.  Without knowing that your ZOS17 guest only had 500M, he 
suggested that it might be running short on storage, and that JES was 
already complaining about storage.

Try changing
this: USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
to:USER ZOS17 ZOS17 2G 4G G 
z/OS is very storage hungry, stealing a "page" (forgive the pun) from the 
old potato chip commercials is the U.S.: "Eat all you want, we'll make 
more".  Once the problem is solved you can always go back to adjust the 
ZOS17 guest virtual storage size if the problem is eliminated.

By the way, you should change the ZOS17 userid password (the second 
"ZOS17") to something else - hackers ALWAYS try the userid as the password 
one of their first guesses.  Besides, you already showed the password to 
the whole world in your post).

We also noted that you only have CTCs for z/OS to use for networking.  Was 
that intentional, or are you maybe missing one or more (usually three) 
DEDICATE statements for OSA's?

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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Re: Call for session chairs for SHARE 113 for LVM in Denver

[Bob Neill]

Rich,
  I'd be willing the chair any/all of the following:  ( I may be able to 
pick up more later--stuck with being a booth babe for now)
9301
9224
9206
9122
9157
 




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Phone 919-224-1892T/L678-1892
Phillies in 2008 and 2009!



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Call for session chairs for SHARE 113 for LVM in Denver






Second try, I sent this early this morning and don't see it in the 
archive.

SHARE 113 in Denver is about a month away!  This is the first call for 
session chairs.  If you plan to attend a session anyway, why not 
volunteer to chair one or more sessions?  It's easy and you will be 
helping out the Linux and VM Program in a very, very big way.

As a session chair you'll be the envy of your friends and colleagues. 
You get to meet and introduce the speaker, make a really cool, but 
short, speech, count session
attendees, keep general order and collect the always important 
evaluation forms at the end of the session.  Feel free to sign up for 
any sessions you think you may plan to attend.

Please respond privately to me with the session numbers that you wish to 
chair, first come, first chaired!


Mon11:00a11009301Extreme Virtualization at IBM: One step 
at a time, then run like they are chasing youBill Reeder
Mon11:00a11009203The Linux Audit SubsystemShawn Wells
Mon11:00a11009217Linux on z/VM - Understanding CPU 
UsageRob van der Heij
Mon01:30p13309102Introduction to Virtualization: z/VM 
Basic Concepts and TermsBill Bitner
Mon01:30p13309161Security Zones on z/VMAlan Altmark
Mon01:30p13309224Linux System Management for the 
Mainframe System Programmer - Part 1 of 2Mark Post
Mon03:00p15009241Securing Linux with RACF on z/VM 
Alan Altmark
Mon03:00p15009225Linux System Management for the 
Mainframe System Programmer - Part 2 of 2Mark Post
Mon03:00p15009276High Availability Architectures for 
Linux in a Virtual EnvironmentScott Loveland
Mon04:30p16309266Monitoring Linux Guests and Processes 
with Linux ToolsMartin Schwidefsky
Mon04:30p16309113The z/VM Control Program (CP) - Useful 
Things to KnowJohn Franciscovich
Tue08:00a8009305Is Your Next Data Center in the 
Cloud?James Staten
Tue09:30a9309233Linux Installation PlanningMark Post
Tue09:30a9309164Automation and Backup Scenarios for z/VM 
and Linux on System z Tracy Dean
Tue09:30a9309302The SaaS-y Mainframe! - Cloud Computing 
with System zMac Devine
Tue11:00a11009303z/VM Platform UpdateReed Mullen
Tue11:00a11009154Mythbusters: Taking on Virtualization - 
z/VM and Linux on System zJim Vincent
Tue11:00a11009270Using Linux on System z for Web 2.0 - 
InfrastructureWolfgang Taphorn
Tue01:30p13309271Using Linux on System z for Web 2.0 - 
ApplicationsWolfgang Taphorn
Tue01:30p13309262What's New in Linux on System z? 
Martin Schwidefsky
Tue01:30p13309133Configuring, Customizing and Modifying 
Your VM System Without an IPLJohn Franciscovich
Tue03:00p15009214Using Logical Volume Manager (LVM) to 
Reduce the Hassle Managing Disk Space on LinuxMark Post
Tue03:00p15009115VM Performance IntroductionBill 
Bitner
Tue04:30p16309166z/VM Performance Case StudiesBill 
Bitner
Tue04:30p16309292Performance Experience with Databases 
on Linux for IBM System zErich Amrehn
Wed09:30a9309152Tips on Monitoring and Managing Your 
z/VM and Linux on System zRobert Neill/Tracy Dean
Wed09:30a9309237Linux under z/VM Performance Analysis 
Case StudiesBarton Robinson
Wed09:30a9309304Comparing and Contrasting Virtualization 
TechnologiesMike Buzzetti
Wed11:00a11009279Problem Determination with Linux on 
System zMario Held
Wed11:00a11009163Sharing the Wealth Using VLANs on 
VswitchDavid Kreuter/L. Jones
Wed11:00a11009165How to configure your EMC Symmetrix for 
z/VM and LinuxGail Riley
Wed01:30p13309211Linux on z/VM - Memory Management 
Rob van der Heij
Wed01:30p13309295Implementing Oracle Products on Linux 
for System zRandall Rhea
Wed03:00p15009146Using Unicenter VM:Operator To Manage 
Linux ServersBrian Jagos
Wed03:00p15009129z/VM Security and IntegrityAlan 
Altmark
Wed03:00p15009137Virtual Linux Server Disaster Recovery 
Planning Rick Barlow
Wed04:30p16309306Disaster Recovery Planning in a z/VM 

Multiple zVM Lpars - Resource consumption

[Mark Jacobs]

Can anyone give me an estimate on additional resource consumption if we
take one z/VM lpar with 'x' IFL's, 'y' GB of memory and 'z' Linux guests
and we create an additional z/VM lpar sharing some/all of the IFL's,
taking some amount of the memory and some of the zLinux guests.

I know that we will have some amount of PRSM overhead and there will be
some increase in real storage needed for the additional z/VM operating
system and some additional DASD requirements. I'm looking for some
numbers I can take to management and if I missed something for the
additional resources needed to support the new z/VM lpar,

-- 
Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service
Tampa, FL


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get stucco. Oh, how you can get stucco. 

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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

[Ray Waters]

Sergio,

I found this. Maybe?

GOOGLE Search: VTAM Abend 0C4 VM

1.   IBM - HIPER Fix List for VTAM in the z/OS Communications 
Server
This document details the HIPER fixes for VTAM and related components on the 
z/OS ... OA25148, 08/05/19, ABEND0C4 IN ISTSSCQ2 DUE TO THE RCPSRLBP IN THE 
RDTE  WHEN RUNNING Z/OS AS A GUEST OF Z/VM 5.2 WITH A DEDICATED OSA ADAPTER
www.ibm.com/.../docview.wss?rs=852... - 
Cached
 - 
Similar

Ray Waters

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Sergio Lima
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:23 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

Hi List,

We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only class G in the 
VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS un der ZVM ?

Thanks

Sergio

> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>
> >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of the 
> >privilege classes
> >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't 
> >think z/OS
> >needs all that.
>
> It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of them used to 
> have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we replaced that with the 
> MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became available.
> Dennis O'Brien
>
> "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 11, 20 July 
> 1969, Sea of Tranquility
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Post
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
>
> >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  wrote:
>
> -snip-
> > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no problem, but when
> > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> >
> > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> >
> > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG
> -snip-
> >
> > Someone already saw this ?
>
> The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I would 
> seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes from that 
> guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't think z/OS 
> needs all that.
>
>
> Mark Post

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Re: Find command

[Carlos Martinez]

Try this I JUST KNOW I'll get a lot of replies on ways to do it better but
it works for me. 

Yes I know I can PIPE instead of EXECIO But I am OLD so me be set  in my old
ways. 

 

/*  */  

PARSE UPPER ARG STR 

"LISTFILE (EXEC"

MAKEBUF 

PUSH STR

"XEDIT CMS EXEC A (PROF TCMSCAN"

DROPBUF 

SET CMSTYPE HT  

ERASE CMS EXEC A

SET CMSTYPE RT  

EXIT

 

 

/*  */   

PULL STR 

"TRUNC *"

"L 1"

SAY "S C A N   B E G I N S . . . . " 

DO FOREVER   

 "EXTRACT /CURLINE"  

 IF CURLINE.3 = "" THEN LEAVE

 PARSE VAR CURLINE.3 . . FILENAME FILETYPE FILEMODE .

 "EXECIO * DISKR" FILENAME FILETYPE FILEMODE" (FINIS SKIP LOCATE /"STR"/"

 IF RC = 0 THEN SAY "LOCATED STRING IN" FILENAME FILETYPE

 "NEXT 1"

END  

SAY "S C A N   C O M P L E T E . . . . " 

QQUIT

EXIT 

 

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:46 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Find command

 

It has used GETFILES from the very early days. I may have to abandon it and
add some logic if it doesn't specify OLDDATEREF by default. Of course, this
assumes that updating the reference date when one only looks at the files is
bad. One could take the position that the user was really referencing the
file. I suspect if one would use any other program, BROWSE, SHOW, XEDIT,
etc., to view a file, the last reference date would be updated. What is the
harm in updating the reference date when one peruses a file to see if it
contains specific data strings? 

 

Since the search facility is heavily used and nobody has complained in over
20 years, I will have to add this to a long list of things to think about
and, perhaps, do. 

 

Richard

 

 

 

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:26 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Find command

Richard, as you are using Pipelines as search engine, I hope you use the
OLDDATEREF parameter on the 

If it is a single file that we are interested in, do not forget the ALL
command in XEDIT. ALL /banana/ will limit the display to only those records
containing the string "banana".

If we are just talking about searching a set of files for a set of strings,
I have been using a search facility for a couple of decades. The search is
Pipelines based, allows for simple Boolean expressions (AND, OR and NOT
operators, no parentheses), multiple arguments, per argument or global
specification of columns or case (respect or ignore), etc. If there are any
hits, an XEDIT session is entered for viewing the results. If you want to
edit one of the files in the results display, placing the cursor on one of
its lines and pressing PF11 xedits the file and positions it so that the
line where the cursor was becomes the current line. The files to search and
the search arguments can be specified on the command line or in files. The
arguments may also be entered interactively. When entering arguments via
file, the only constraint is virtual memory; each argument causes an
addpipe. It is pretty darn fast.


It's a secret - don't tell anybody. I have been known to send the package to
others who have expressed interest.



Regards,
Richard Schuh




> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Wade
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:32 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Find command
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]
> > On Behalf Of P S
> > Sent: 21 July 2009 14:24
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Find command
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Bob
> Woodside
> > wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 21 July 2009, Philip Hitti wrote:
> > >> Is there any command to find a word in the midle of the
> vm file and
> > >> co

Re: Operator Console

[Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)]

The SUBJECT for this should probably change since it has gotten a little
away from the original intent of the question.

Thank You,
 
Terry Martin
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z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
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Work - 410 786-0386
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-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:48 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Operator Console

Right you are. The question should have been, are the updates to the
source provided in the maintenance stream?

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Wade
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:44 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Operator Console
> 
> $pedant mode on
> 
> Be careful. The question was "is source code updated by PTFs"
> 
> I would have said changed the "YES" to a "NO" but left the 
> rest the same.
> Source Code updates are delivered with PTFs but the BASE 
> SOURCE isn't actually changed. Rebuilding a module will have 
> the updates applied and a TEXT deck generated with the 
> changes in. However if you want to view the updated source 
> you can't just open them in XEDIT
> 
> I think I have been doing too many Microsoft/Citrix/IBM lotus 
> certification exams.
> 
> $PEDANT MODE OFF
> 
> Dave
> G4UGM
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] 
> > On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> > Sent: 21 July 2009 17:58
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Operator Console
> > 
> > On Tuesday, 07/21/2009 at 11:42 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > Does that source get updated by PTFs? If not, it is just a better 
> > > way to
> > 
> > > present what was in microfiche in OS/360.
> > 
> > Yes, PTFs deliver source updates to all modules for which 
> we ship the 
> > base source.
> > 
> > Alan Altmark
> > z/VM Development
> > IBM Endicott
> 

Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

[Sergio Lima]

Hi List,

 

We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only class G in the 
VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.

The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.

Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS un der ZVM ?

 

Thanks

 

Sergio
 
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of the 
> >privilege classes
> >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't 
> >think z/OS
> >needs all that.
> 
> It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of them used to 
> have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we replaced that with the 
> MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became available.
> Dennis O'Brien
> 
> "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 11, 20 July 
> 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Post
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> 
> >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  wrote: 
> 
> -snip-
> > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no problem, but 
> > when 
> > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> > 
> > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> > 
> > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
> -snip-
> > 
> > Someone already saw this ?
> 
> The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I would 
> seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes from that 
> guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't think z/OS 
> needs all that.
> 
> 
> Mark Post

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Re: Find command

[Schuh, Richard]

It has used GETFILES from the very early days. I may have to abandon it and add 
some logic if it doesn't specify OLDDATEREF by default. Of course, this assumes 
that updating the reference date when one only looks at the files is bad. One 
could take the position that the user was really referencing the file. I 
suspect if one would use any other program, BROWSE, SHOW, XEDIT, etc., to view 
a file, the last reference date would be updated. What is the harm in updating 
the reference date when one peruses a file to see if it contains specific data 
strings?

Since the search facility is heavily used and nobody has complained in over 20 
years, I will have to add this to a long list of things to think about and, 
perhaps, do.

Richard






From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:26 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Find command

Richard, as you are using Pipelines as search engine, I hope you use the 
OLDDATEREF parameter on the mailto:rsc...@visa.com>>
If it is a single file that we are interested in, do not forget the ALL command 
in XEDIT. ALL /banana/ will limit the display to only those records containing 
the string "banana".

If we are just talking about searching a set of files for a set of strings, I 
have been using a search facility for a couple of decades. The search is 
Pipelines based, allows for simple Boolean expressions (AND, OR and NOT 
operators, no parentheses), multiple arguments, per argument or global 
specification of columns or case (respect or ignore), etc. If there are any 
hits, an XEDIT session is entered for viewing the results. If you want to edit 
one of the files in the results display, placing the cursor on one of its lines 
and pressing PF11 xedits the file and positions it so that the line where the 
cursor was becomes the current line. The files to search and the search 
arguments can be specified on the command line or in files. The arguments may 
also be entered interactively. When entering arguments via file, the only 
constraint is virtual memory; each argument causes an addpipe. It is pretty 
darn fast.


It's a secret - don't tell anybody. I have been known to send the package to 
others who have expressed interest.



Regards,
Richard Schuh



> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> Dave Wade
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:32 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Find command
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of P S
> > Sent: 21 July 2009 14:24
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Find command
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Bob
> Woodsidemailto:rwoodsi...@woodsway.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 21 July 2009, Philip Hitti wrote:
> > >> Is there any command to find a word in the midle of the
> vm file and
> > >> continue seaching until the end of the text as TSO.
> > >
> > >I'm not sure what you mean by "as TSO", but IIRC there
> is a grep
> > > command under z/VM. Also, I thought the SuperCE tool was
> available
> > > under z/VM also. Or are you talking about finding a
> string in XEDIT?
> >
> > There's no standard grep on VM. There are several floating around,
> > though. SuperCE is available but isn't free, unless that's changed.
>
> There is a SCANCMS here
>
> http://zvm.sru.edu/~DOWNLOAD/
>
> but is says it needs "370accom on" so it may need tweaks for zVM...
>
> Dave
> G4UGM
>



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Re: apar searching

[Frank M. Ramaekers]

Sure it is:  www.ibm.com/ibmlink


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Waco, Texas  76710


 


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Rob van der Heij
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: apar searching

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Gentry,
Stephen wrote:
> What is SIS?

Service Link - I am not sure the term is still used beyond the 3270
interface. It's software support.
Resource Link is basically your hardware support.

Rob

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Fw: apar searching

[Greg Rehn]

SIS stands for Search Information Services . application where you 
search for APARs and PTFs
I believe open apars will show up here, but I use RETAIN

Here is the DB2 APAR info:

APAR= PK91353  SER=IN INCORROUT 
SUBSEQUENT LOG ARCHIVES(LARCHIVE) ARE FAILING WITH MSG: ARI0235I
 
STAT= OPEN FESN0X04450- CTID= CN7015 ISEV= 3 
SB09/07/14  RC09/07/14  CL  PD   SEV= 3 
   PE=   TYPE= F 
RCOMP= 5697F4201DB2 SERVER VSE  RREL= R5NN 
FCOMP=  PFREL= F TREL= T 
 
ERROR DESCRIPTION: 
ARI0065I Operator command processing is complete. 
ARI0235I LARCHIVE command rejected because a log 
 archive is being taken. 
ARI0066E An error occurred processing the operator command 

LOCAL FIX: 
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What is SIS?
 
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:52 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: apar searching
 
Steve, PK91353 shows up for me in SIS. 
Mary Anne
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Gentry, Stephen <
stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com> wrote:
Does anyone know if open apars will show up in a search on Resource Link? 
IIRC, they don?t unless it is yours.  Trying to get info on PK91353.  DB2 
7.5 related.
Thanks,
Steve
 

Re: apar searching

[Mary Anne Matyaz]

SIS is Service Information link on IBMLINK.

Mary Anne

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gentry, Stephen <
stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com> wrote:

>  What is SIS?
>
>
>
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Mary Anne Matyaz
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:52 AM
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: apar searching
>
>
>
> Steve, PK91353 shows up for me in SIS.
> Mary Anne
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Gentry, Stephen <
> stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if open apars will show up in a search on Resource Link?
>  IIRC, they don’t unless it is yours.  Trying to get info on PK91353.  DB2
> 7.5 related.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
>

Re: apar searching

[Rob van der Heij]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Gentry,
Stephen wrote:
> What is SIS?

Service Link - I am not sure the term is still used beyond the 3270
interface. It's software support.
Resource Link is basically your hardware support.

Rob

Re: apar searching

[Gentry, Stephen]

What is SIS?

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:52 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: apar searching

 

Steve, PK91353 shows up for me in SIS. 
Mary Anne

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Gentry, Stephen
 wrote:

Does anyone know if open apars will show up in a search on Resource
Link?  IIRC, they don't unless it is yours.  Trying to get info on
PK91353.  DB2 7.5 related.

Thanks,

Steve

 

Re: Find command

[Kris Buelens]

Richard, as you are using Pipelines as search engine, I hope you use the
OLDDATEREF parameter on the 

> If it is a single file that we are interested in, do not forget the ALL
> command in XEDIT. ALL /banana/ will limit the display to only those records
> containing the string "banana".
>
> If we are just talking about searching a set of files for a set of strings,
> I have been using a search facility for a couple of decades. The search is
> Pipelines based, allows for simple Boolean expressions (AND, OR and NOT
> operators, no parentheses), multiple arguments, per argument or global
> specification of columns or case (respect or ignore), etc. If there are any
> hits, an XEDIT session is entered for viewing the results. If you want to
> edit one of the files in the results display, placing the cursor on one of
> its lines and pressing PF11 xedits the file and positions it so that the
> line where the cursor was becomes the current line. The files to search and
> the search arguments can be specified on the command line or in files. The
> arguments may also be entered interactively. When entering arguments via
> file, the only constraint is virtual memory; each argument causes an
> addpipe. It is pretty darn fast.
>
> 
> It's a secret - don't tell anybody. I have been known to send the package
> to others who have expressed interest.
> 
>
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Wade
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:32 PM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Find command
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]
> > > On Behalf Of P S
> > > Sent: 21 July 2009 14:24
> > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: Find command
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Bob
> > Woodside
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 21 July 2009, Philip Hitti wrote:
> > > >> Is there any command to find a word in the midle of the
> > vm file and
> > > >> continue seaching until the end of the text as TSO.
> > > >
> > > >I'm not sure what you mean by "as TSO", but IIRC there
> > is a grep
> > > > command under z/VM. Also, I thought the SuperCE tool was
> > available
> > > > under z/VM also. Or are you talking about finding a
> > string in XEDIT?
> > >
> > > There's no standard grep on VM. There are several floating around,
> > > though. SuperCE is available but isn't free, unless that's changed.
> >
> > There is a SCANCMS here
> >
> > http://zvm.sru.edu/~DOWNLOAD/ 
> >
> > but is says it needs "370accom on" so it may need tweaks for zVM...
> >
> > Dave
> > G4UGM
> >
>



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IBM Belgium, VM customer support