Re: CMSDDR VMARC question
It is known that compressing uncompressable data increases the size of the object. VMARC compresses, but CMSDDR already did (you write: 41 tracks not compacted, meaning you used OUTPUT xxx (COMPACT). If you still prefer VMARC as opposed to COPYFILE PACK, use VMARC PACK xxx (STORE, telling VMARC not to compress. 2009/10/16 Henry, Bob bob.he...@sungardhe.com I’ll look into that – thanks. *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On Behalf Of *Scott Rohling *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:36 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: CMSDDR VMARC question (actually - maybe the PIPEDDR DUMP/RESTORE over TCPIP is exactly what you want? if the zVM systems have connectivity, this lets you dump a disk directly from one system to another - and will save you steps...) Scott On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe try a COPYFILE (PACK of the output file instead of using VMARC? That way if you use F 1024 when FTPing to zVM, you can just COPYFILE (UNPACK it.. I'm just assuming you were using VMARC to help ensure the xfer was blocked correctly.. Using COPYFILE (PACK accomplishes the same thing. Just not sure how they compare on 'compression'... You might also look at PIPEDDR -- and the PACK option .. (available on the zVM download page. google 'zvm download' to find it). Scott On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Henry, Bob bob.he...@sungardhe.com wrote: I was going to do that, but some of the MDs are VSE full volume disks. *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On Behalf Of *Scott Rohling *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:17 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: CMSDDR VMARC question Don't know about VMARC -- but CMSDDR is packing the entire minidisk - empty space and all...Why not just VMARC the files on the disk and forget about CMSDDR? Scott On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Henry, Bob bob.he...@sungardhe.com wrote: I’m using CMSDDR and VMARC to transfer some CMS minidisks via FTP. Both utilities seem to produce more output than the original data on the minidisk(s). Here’s an example. User has 25 files (mostly COBOL source and/or JCL) in a 4 cylinder 3390 minidisk, blocked 4096. A “Q DISK” shows 76 blocks used, 644 blocks left. CMSDDR on that minidisk shows 2,957,040 bytes IN, 2,634,392 bytes OUT, 41 tracks not compacted. The output file from CMSDDR has 101 records of LRECL=49152 using 644 blocks (size 4096). VMARC (of the CMSDDR output file) shows IN=2,634,392 and OUT=3,142,240. It produces a file of 38,736 records with LRECL=80 using 757 blocks (size 4096). Does anyone have any explanation why these utilities “grow” the amount of data to be transmitted rather than “shrinking” it? Am I missing something? I’m using just the default options for both programs. Any help would be appreciated. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: RSCS
Wouldn't it be that the local RSCS has the same problem as your REXX code: it doesn't know when the response of the other side is complete? The immediate CRI command complete would mean that the local RSCS did it's job: sending the command to the other end. 2009/10/15 Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com Last week, I posted this: We have an exec that retrieves responses from RSCS using the CRI. In the past, it could issue JES commands (e.g. $DA or $DN,ALL) to an MVS system and return the response from MVS to a stem. One of our users has run into a problem - it gets an immediate End of command response message without including any of the response. The response from MVS is then directed to the console instead of the CRI. Is this due to changes to RSCS or is it something being done differently in MVS, and what will it take to fix it? which has gotten no reply. Further testing shows that the same is true for CP, CMS and GCS commands sent to other VM systems. This narrows down the question of which has changed to one possibility, RSCS. The question of whether it is a new feature or an unintended consequence remains. If the latter, I will open a PMR. If the former, I will have to SET CPCONIO IUCV to trap the responses. And it will create the problem of determining when the response is complete. So which is it? Regards, Richard Schuh -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, October 22, 2009
The fourth quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, October 22, 2009. There is still road construction work in progress in the area around Hewitt Associates. The situation changes weekly, so I will send out a construction update on the Tuesday before the meeting. -- Meeting Location: This quarter's meeting will be held at the Hewitt Associates 'East Campus' located at 100 Half Day Road, in Lincolnshire, IL. We will meet in Conference Room 100-M3, in Building 100, just off the cafeteria. If you have not attended a meeting at this location before, or you are not familiar with the area, http://cavmen.home.comcast.net/hewittb99.htmlClick here for additional information on directions, maps, lodging and dining. -- Attendance: We would like to request a count of expected attendees by the Monday before the meeting, so that we may plan appropriately for arranging the facilities, and for refreshments and lunch, should one of the vendors wish to provide them. If you are planning to attend, PLEASE send an E-Mail by that date to mailto:cav...@comcast.netcav...@comcast.net with a subject line of Meeting Attendance. This is meant to be a facilities planning aid and should not be interpreted as a registration requirement. If you suddenly become available at the last minute, please feel free to attend even if you have not responded. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. -- Final Meeting Agenda: 9:00 AM z/VM Platform Update: Introducing z/VM V6.1 - Advancing the Art of Server Virtualization This presentation will highlight the new functions available with z/VM V6.1, IBM's newest version of advanced server virtualization support for IBM System z. Building on the functionally rich base of z/VM Version 5.4, z/VM V6.1, previewed on July 7, 2009, further enhances the economic attractiveness of consolidating workloads on the mainframe. Find out how z/VM V6.1 on IBM System z10 advances the art of enterprise virtualization. The speaker will also provide an overview of future z/VM support (statements of direction) included in the z/VM V6.1 preview announcement. The speaker will be Alan Altmark of the IBM Corporation. 10:30 AMCoffee Break 11:00 AMSecurity Zones in z/VM In multi-tier network applications, there is usually the concept of demilitarized zones, or DMZs, that each contain a set of servers. Each DMZ is separated from others by firewalls and by access policies to ensure that there is no unwanted user access or flow of data. Learn in this presentation how to properly build virtual DMZs and to integrate virtual servers into your existing DMZs. We will also discuss using the RACF Security Server on z/VM to prevent a red zone server from connecting to a green zone network or green zone data... The speaker will be Alan Altmark of the IBM Corporation. 12:30 PMLunch Break 1:30 PM Administration and Vendor Announcements 1:45 PM Linux on z Update The speaker will present a brief update of recent developments in the Linux under z/VM area. The speaker will be Paul Augustyniak of the IBM Corporation. 2:00 PM What makes a successful Proof of Concept for Linux on System z Most companies begin their first foray into the Linux on System z world by conducting a z Linux POC. This presentation will draw upon the many years of experience of the presenter and the dos and dont's of a POC. Marianne will discuss how to pick the application and other technical aspects. The speaker will be Marianne Eggett of Mainline Information Systems. 3:15 PM Coffee Break and Prize Drawing 3:30 PM System z Linux Proof of Concept - Project Management Best Practices It's an important step - so when you are ready to move forward, make sure you're on solid ground. From planning, to proving, to production, there are a lot of intricate details to think about when you are considering a Linux implementation. In this session, Marianne Eggett summarizes industry best practices for project management of your IBM System z Linux Proof-of-Concept (POC). These best practices are based on her 30 + years in IT and 8 focusing on Linux on IBM Systems z New Workload. This session will cover the important steps to a successful POC, including: · Project Initiation · Project Definition · Installation and Set Up · Testing · Closing The speaker will be Marianne Eggett of Mainline Information Systems. 4:45 PM Free-for-All Members will attempt to answer any reasonable VM or hardware related questions. If you are having a problem and want to find out if others are experiencing it, or you are installing new hardware or software and want to find out what types of problems others have experienced, here is the place to find out. Members are encouraged to bring ideas for future presentations and speakers
Re: Daylight Saving Time change
I hope Mark won't mind, but I changed the code a bit to work for Europe:
address command
resultfile='TZ CHANGES A'
'FINIS' resultfile
'ERASE' resultfile
Do =2007 to 2041
'EXECIO 1 DISKW' resultfile '(STRING ' GetSpring()
'EXECIO 1 DISKW' resultfile '(STRING ' GetFall()
End
'FINIS' resultfile
say 'Results are now contained in file:' resultfile
Exit rc
GetSpring: /* Find last Sunday in March */
parse arg year .
Do dx=year'0331' by -1 for 7 until dow='Sunday'
dow=date('W',dx,'S')
End
return 'Timezone_Boundary on' ,
date('S',dx,'S','-') , /* In -mm-dd fmt */
'at 02:00:00 to SUM'
GetFall: /* Find last Sunday in October */
parse arg year .
Do dx=year'1031' by -1 for 7 until dow='Sunday'
dow=date('W',dx,'S')
end
Return 'Timezone_Boundary on' ,
date('S',dx,'S','-') , /* In -mm-dd fmt */
'at 03:00:00 to WIN'
2009/10/15 Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com
...Rolly
Oh, BTW, any one has the time change dates for 2009 - 201x? TIA.
Run the TZDATES EXEC pasted below.
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
/* Prolog; See Epilog for additional information
* Exec Name - TZDATES EXEC*
* Unit Support - OSS/VM *
* Status- Version 2, Release 1.0 *
/
address 'COMMAND'
parse source xos xct xfn xft xfm xcmd xenvir .
parse upper arg parms 1 operands '(' options ')' parmrest
If operands='?' then Signal Explain
parse var operands tz .
If tz='' then tz='C'
ltz=length(tz)
If ltz1 then
Do
say xfn'; Invalid timezone character, length not 1.' ,
'Found 'tzc'.'
say 'For more help, issue:' xfn '?'
Call Exit 20
End
resultfile=xfn 'BOUNDS A'
'FINIS' resultfile
'ERASE' resultfile
Signal ON Error
Do ix=2007 to 2041/* What years do we want to cover? */
/* As of 2005-09-27, dates beginning in 2042 cause error msg: */
/* HCPZPM6706E Invalid date - 2042-mm-dd */
/* There's time for an APAR before then... */
spring=GetSpring(ix)
fall =GetFall(ix)
'EXECIO 1 DISKW' resultfile '0 F 80 (STRING' spring
'EXECIO 1 DISKW' resultfile '0 F 80 (STRING' fall
End
'FINIS' resultfile
say xfn 'results are now contained in file:' resultfile
Call Exit rc
//
/* Sub-Routines below this point */
//
Exit:
parse arg exitrc .
If verify(exitrc,'-0123456789')=0 then Exit exitrc
else Exit 99
GetSpring:
parse arg year .
/* Find 1st Sunday in March, beginning in 2007 per the: */
/* U.S. Government Energy Policy Act of 2005. */
Do dx=year||0301 by 1 for 7 until dow='Sunday'
dow=date('W',dx,'S')
End
dx=dx+7 /* Ooooh, easy date math! Add 14 for 2nd Sunday in March*/
spring='Timezone_Boundary on' ,
date('S',dx,'S','-') , /* In -mm-dd fmt */
'at 02:00:00 to' tz'DT' /* Change to Daylight Time */
Return spring
GetFall:
parse arg year .
/* Find 1st Sunday in November beginning in 2007 per the: */
/* U.S. Government Energy Policy Act of 2005. */
Do dx=year||1101 by 1 for 7
If date('W',dx,'S')'Sunday' then Iterate
Return 'Timezone_Boundary on' ,
date('S',dx,'S','-') , /* In -mm-dd fmt */
'at 02:00:00 to' tz'ST' /* Change to Standard Time */
End
Return
Error:
say '+++ ERROR error routine entered in:' xfn xft xfm', rc='rc
say '+++ from line:' sigl', which reads:'
say '+++'sourceline(sigl)
Exit 20
Syntax:
say '+++ SYNTAX error routine entered in:' xfn xft xfm', rc='rc
say '+++ from line:' sigl', which reads:'
say '+++'sourceline(sigl)
Call Exit 20
NoValue:
say '+++ NoValue error routine entered in:' xfn xft xfm', rc='rc
say '+++ from line:' sigl', which reads:'
say '+++'sourceline(sigl)
say '+++ Variable with no value is:' condition('Description')
Call Exit 24
Explain:
'PIPE (NAME Explain)' ,
'| ' xfn xft xfm ,
'| INSIDE /ExplainBegin:/ /ExplainEnd:/' ,
'| PREFACE STRLITERAL /'xfn xft xfm 'help.../' ,
'| CONSOLE'
Call Exit 0
/*
ExplainBegin:
Unless changed, TZDATES will produce a file suitable for inclusion in
SYSTEM CONFIG on MAINT's CF1, CF2, etc. disks to define the Spring and
Fall Daylight/Standard timezones.
+-C+
-TZDATES--+--+---
Writing a screen scrolling shell
I need to get a screen to behave in a slightly different way to the standard 3270 screen. I need to collect SECUSER messages and get them to push up the screen, (so the oldest fall off the top), rather than filling the screen to MORE... and starting again with a clear screen. I did look to see if there was any way I could do this with Fullscreen CMS and I could not see how (although I have never really got to grips with this tool and there may be some configuration option that may make it possible. We have tried using VM:Operator and this, sort of, does what we want but there are some complexities caused by the fact that it is a far more general tool with many more functions. I could, of course, write my own shell but, before I set about this, it would be helpful to know if there is already something out there that will do this (or, at least, provide a base on which to work). Any ideas would be greatly appreciated Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Re: Network timeout on TCPIP RSCS links
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:22:37 -0400 Mrohs, Ray said: The link comes right back up after its disconnected. But from a security standpoint it seems that a link that is idle and stays connected to its peer is more secure than one that is waiting for a connection to happen. Maybe these firewall rules are aimed more at unattended workstations. If all else fails, I'll set up a scheduled message to the peer node to keep the link up, but I like to use vendor-supplied solutions if they are available. If you are running PROP on both nodes, you can use PROPCHK to verify connectivity to the remote site, and you can take action at that point automatically. Since the PROPCHK action itself will cause data to travel, it might be enough to keep your link up, and it is a vendor-supplied solution. /ahw Ray Mrohs -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Network timeout on TCPIP RSCS links As you have discovered, KEEPALIV=YES is the default for TCPNJE links. The firewall may be ignoring keepalives. Firewall Folks need to look at their logs. Note that keepalives have the undesirable side effect of bringing down a link when there is a transient error, even when there is no file transmission in progress. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell
OTTOSCR is an old tool to make fullscreen CMS scroll, don't know if it still runs http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?OTTOSCR With ROI, you'd have to write the new line with VSCREEN WRITE and linenumber 0, then maybe some WINDOW command to position the window at the end (if the VSCREEN is larger than the WINDOW But, very easy in my eyes: you could use XEDIT, basically a loop doing :1 DEL 1 * INSERT newLine :1 I don't know what your code will be waiting for. If you need to wait for either a message comming in either a SCIF message: there are no easy, REXXish, ways to get this done: For example: with XEDIT you have READ to wait for user action or WAKEUP to wait for a timer or messages, but the end-user's action on the XEDIT screen get lost. At my customer's installation we solved this by using WAKEUP for enable screen updates, when the operator wanted to do something, he had to press enter or some other key, causing WAKEUP to exit with RC 6. But our REXX code could now know what the operator did, so some prompting popup was displayed. Another operator tool used CMS/GUI, where the GUI generated a timer interrupt to VM every 2 seconds and the REXX code then checked for new messages with WAKEUP +0 (xxx. Consequently the operator diod not have to hit two keys to get something done. 2009/10/16 Colin Allinson cgallin...@amadeus.com: I need to get a screen to behave in a slightly different way to the standard 3270 screen. I need to collect SECUSER messages and get them to push up the screen, (so the oldest fall off the top), rather than filling the screen to MORE... and starting again with a clear screen. I did look to see if there was any way I could do this with Fullscreen CMS and I could not see how (although I have never really got to grips with this tool and there may be some configuration option that may make it possible. We have tried using VM:Operator and this, sort of, does what we want but there are some complexities caused by the fact that it is a far more general tool with many more functions. I could, of course, write my own shell but, before I set about this, it would be helpful to know if there is already something out there that will do this (or, at least, provide a base on which to work). Any ideas would be greatly appreciated Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Colin Allinson cgallin...@amadeus.com wrote: I did look to see if there was any way I could do this with Fullscreen CMS and I could not see how (although I have never really got to grips with this tool and there may be some configuration option that may make it possible. Yes, we can ... I recall using the CMS PIpelines fullscr stage to build one that imitated the NetView style where the insertion point for the new line is rolling over the screen (to save bandwidth). With some extra effort you could also do something like MVS where a subset of the lines (the replies) stack at the top. If you want to insert the new line at the bottom (thus scroll the remaining lines up) you need to rewrite it all every time you add a line (which we found very intrusive on the termulators in those days). Don't have the code handy anymore, but could give it a try if it helps you out. Rob
Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell
Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com Wrote (in part) :- OTTOSCR is an old tool to make fullscreen CMS scroll, don't know if it still runs. Kris, Thank you. I will certainly look at OTTOSCR. Even if it does not run out of the box, it may give me a good basis to start from. To explain a little more - what I am trying to do is quite simple really (but, as always, with a couple of twists). This output screen will not need (and should not) wait for any input. The idea is that it will be monitored by external automation software looking for specific conditions and creating alerts. The userids generating the secuser output will, in fact, be TPF guests and, as the automation software already monitors the native TPF consoles (which scroll) then something that replicates this will eliminate the need for new monitoring routines being written. The only complexity is that this will not be a 'real screen' but a soft virtual screen that is doing the monitoring. It is already working, sort of, with VM:Operator but there are some issues in the way it handles the screen that causes VM:Operator to run out of buffer memory after a couple of days (there are also display constraints). I really am looking to do something very simple. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell
Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com Wrote :- Yes, we can ... I recall using the CMS PIpelines fullscr stage to build one that imitated the NetView style where the insertion point for the new line is rolling over the screen (to save bandwidth). With some extra effort you could also do something like MVS where a subset of the lines (the replies) stack at the top. If you want to insert the new line at the bottom (thus scroll the remaining lines up) you need to rewrite it all every time you add a line (which we found very intrusive on the termulators in those days). Don't have the code handy anymore, but could give it a try if it helps you out. Rob I am not trying to do anything complicated like hold lines on the top of the screen (as with MVS) but one thing I had not considered is the point that you, correctly, make about having to rewrite the full screen all the time. That could majorly confuse the automation monitoring tool !! I am just having a reality check and wondering if it is not a lot simpler than I had been thinking. If I could remember how to define the screen (which would be virtual) as a (no)glass teletype then that should really do just what I want (I think). Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:42:58 +0200, Colin Allinson cgallin...@amadeus.co m wrote: I need to get a screen to behave in a slightly different way to the standard 3270 screen. I need to collect SECUSER messages and get them to push up the screen, (so the oldest fall off the top), rather than fillin g the screen to MORE... and starting again with a clear screen. I have a demo that does this using IBM Operations Manager for z/VM if you 'd like to contact me off-list. It also allows you to change the color of certain messages, hold some messages at the top (letting others scroll by ), etc. Tracy Dean IBM
Re: SVC 203
Alone in the world to still use it probably ;) Well, I assemble the source and genmod it with amode 24 with a v stor at 4M and it still doesn't work I still have a 'operation exception'... Any ideas ? Alain Le 16 oct. 2009 à 00:59, Alan Altmark a écrit : On Thursday, 10/15/2009 at 02:56 EDT, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr wrote: I'm looking for someone who is using a product named STAIRS, borned in the 70' died in the 90', no more maintained - of course - and still working on a zVM530. I meet a problem with the SVC 203 and I can't find any info about this SVC. If someone has updated the DLNCLDR assemble to make it work... I TAKE IT! This product works on zVM440. What could have changed in 530 to make it failed ? Wow! We're still getting revenue from STAIRS!?! Most excellent! :-) What kind of error are you getting? The suggestion to use only 16MB is a good one, but you may also need to trim the CMS virtual machine of any excess memory usage. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: SVC 203
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:42 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SVC 203 Alone in the world to still use it probably ;) Well, I assemble the source and genmod it with amode 24 with a v stor at 4M and it still doesn't work I still have a 'operation exception'... Any ideas ? Alain operation exception means you tried to execute an invalid opcode. It's been a long time since I've done any CMS programming. Do you get some sort of report which shows the PSW? If so, what is the PSW, and what is the data around where it is pointing? Any chance your code is doing a wild branch? In z/OS, we get these when some base register is set to 0. This is usually when a statically linked subroutine is not resolved in the link. Just some thoughts. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
Re: SVC 203
I know this is probably a grand reach for a straw but I think your problem could be that a module that is being called is not same as on the zVM53 system that was on your zVM44 system. Do you still have access to the zVM440 system? If so you might try to port the compiled object from the zVM53 system to the zVM44 system. If that zVM53 compiled object works on the zVM44 system, then it points to a module that is probably not coded the same. Which would lead me to believe that a library used in the zVM44 system is missing from the zVM53 system. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:42 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SVC 203 Alone in the world to still use it probably ;) Well, I assemble the source and genmod it with amode 24 with a v stor at 4M and it still doesn't work I still have a 'operation exception'... Any ideas ? Alain Le 16 oct. 2009 à 00:59, Alan Altmark a écrit : On Thursday, 10/15/2009 at 02:56 EDT, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr wrote: I'm looking for someone who is using a product named STAIRS, borned in the 70' died in the 90', no more maintained - of course - and still working on a zVM530. I meet a problem with the SVC 203 and I can't find any info about this SVC. If someone has updated the DLNCLDR assemble to make it work... I TAKE IT! This product works on zVM440. What could have changed in 530 to make it failed ? Wow! We're still getting revenue from STAIRS!?! Most excellent! :-) What kind of error are you getting? The suggestion to use only 16MB is a good one, but you may also need to trim the CMS virtual machine of any excess memory usage. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell
I have an exec that uses OTTOSCR from the download site, I think it does pretty much what you are looking for. I wrote this several years ago when I had several VM's all running PROP and sending messages to this secondary user. It allows scrolling backward and forward and logging. If you want this exec you can have, no gaurentees. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com Wrote :- Yes, we can ... I recall using the CMS PIpelines fullscr stage to build one that imitated the NetView style where the insertion point for the new line is rolling over the screen (to save bandwidth). With some extra effort you could also do something like MVS where a subset of the lines (the replies) stack at the top. If you want to insert the new line at the bottom (thus scroll the remaining lines up) you need to rewrite it all every time you add a line (which we found very intrusive on the termulators in those days). Don't have the code handy anymore, but could give it a try if it helps you out. Rob I am not trying to do anything complicated like hold lines on the top of the screen (as with MVS) but one thing I had not considered is the point that you, correctly, make about having to rewrite the full screen all the time. That could majorly confuse the automation monitoring tool !! I am just having a reality check and wondering if it is not a lot simpler than I had been thinking. If I could remember how to define the screen (which would be virtual) as a (no)glass teletype then that should really do just what I want (I think). Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Re: SVC 203
#CP TR PROG 0 If it's a branch into garbage then #CP TR BR INTO garbagearea On 10/16/09 9:49 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: operation exception means you tried to execute an invalid opcode. It's been a long time since I've done any CMS programming. Do you get some sort of report which shows the PSW? If so, what is the PSW, and what is the data around where it is pointing? Any chance your code is doing a wild branch? In z/OS, we get these when some base register is set to 0. This is usually when a statically linked subroutine is not resolved in the link.
Re: SVC 203
Wow! We're still getting revenue from STAIRS!?! Most excellent! :- ) Frighteningly enough, the son of one of the STAIRS designers (Chris Martin) was one of our student programmers current with Adam and Rick and I's time at Rice. Chris has taught several more generations of STAIRS users. Of course, this kid learned 390 assembler programming in a weekend for fun, but -- db
Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell
If you have PERFKIT, set up an additional virtual machine that has all data collection turned off, and use it in basic mode. It does a very nice job of being a scrolling operator display, and has nice message filtering and highlighting already built in.
Re: RSCS
No. If the command is executed on the local node, the response, regardless of the environment where the it is to be executed, is returned via CRI. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RSCS Wouldn't it be that the local RSCS has the same problem as your REXX code: it doesn't know when the response of the other side is complete? The immediate CRI command complete would mean that the local RSCS did it's job: sending the command to the other end. 2009/10/15 Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.commailto:rsc...@visa.com Last week, I posted this: We have an exec that retrieves responses from RSCS using the CRI. In the past, it could issue JES commands (e.g. $DA or $DN,ALL) to an MVS system and return the response from MVS to a stem. One of our users has run into a problem - it gets an immediate End of command response message without including any of the response. The response from MVS is then directed to the console instead of the CRI. Is this due to changes to RSCS or is it something being done differently in MVS, and what will it take to fix it? which has gotten no reply. Further testing shows that the same is true for CP, CMS and GCS commands sent to other VM systems. This narrows down the question of which has changed to one possibility, RSCS. The question of whether it is a new feature or an unintended consequence remains. If the latter, I will open a PMR. If the former, I will have to SET CPCONIO IUCV to trap the responses. And it will create the problem of determining when the response is complete. So which is it? Regards, Richard Schuh -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: SVC 203
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr wrote: Alone in the world to still use it probably ;) Well, I assemble the source and genmod it with amode 24 with a v stor at 4M and it still doesn't work I still have a 'operation exception'... It isn't the vstor at *GENMOD* that matters, it's at *runtime*. You said before the user had 32M. Try it with 16M on that user.
Re: SVC 203
Back with this option I need to understand. I tried with 4M, 8M (what the users have), 15M, I didn't test EXACTLY 16M. Is that important ? If so, I still have a chance to see work again then ;) Alain Le 16 oct. 2009 à 18:57, P S a écrit : On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr wrote: Alone in the world to still use it probably ;) Well, I assemble the source and genmod it with amode 24 with a v stor at 4M and it still doesn't work I still have a 'operation exception'... It isn't the vstor at *GENMOD* that matters, it's at *runtime*. You said before the user had 32M. Try it with 16M on that user.
Re: SVC 203
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Alain Benveniste
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:08 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SVC 203
If it talks to someone...Here is the code.
Here is the code for CMSGETMN :
MACRO
N CMSGETMN LV=,NSTAD=
N IHBINNRA ,LV
AH0,=H'7'
SRA 0,3
AIF ('NSTAD' EQ '').STDERR
DMSFREE DWORDS=(0),AREA=HIGH,TYPE=USER,ERR=LSYSNDX.£A
B LSYSNDX.£C
LSYSNDX.£A CH 15,=H'1'
BENSTAD
HUH? if R15 is not 1, then you are guaranteed an exception by the following
instruction.
But you don't have NSTAND= in your invocation, so this doesn't matter in your
case
DCX''
LSYSNDX.£C DS 0H
MEXIT
.STDERR DMSFREE DWORDS=(0),AREA=HIGH,TYPE=USER,ERR=LSYSNDX.£
And here the ERR= points to the x'' of the supposed NOP instruction, again
causing a program exception.
That would be the case if there is a problem reported by the DMSFREE function.
* FOLLOWING TWO STATEMENTS MAKE A NOP INSTRUCTION
DCX'4700'
LSYSNDX.£ DC X''
MEND
Here is the main source program:
CLDR TITLE 'DLNCLDR - STAIRS/CMS BOOTSTRAP LOADER ROUTINE'
0100
* CMS32
0200
* 5664-189 CMS32
0300
* CONTAINS RESTRICTED MATERIALS OF IBM CMS32
0400
* (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1984, 1989 CMS32
0500
* LICENSED MATERIALS - PROPERTY OF IBM CMS32
0600
* REFER TO COPYRIGHT INSTRUCTIONSCMS32
0700
* FORM NUMBER G120-2083 CMS32
0800
* CMS32
0900
* STAIRS/CMS RELEASE 2.0 CMS113
1000
* CMS32
1100
DLNCLDR CSECT
1200
REGEQU
1300
CC0 EQU 8
1400
CC1 EQU 4
1500
CC2 EQU 2
1600
CC3 EQU 1
1700
USING *,R15
1800
STR14,12(,R13)
1900
BALR R10,0
2000
USING *,R10
2100
DLNCPYRT NAME='DLNCLDR' CMS32
2200
* CHECK IF THERE IS A PARAMETER LIST
2300
XRR6,R6 ZERO - NOT IN TEST MODECMS11
2400
CLI 8(R1),X'FF'IF NO PARAM LIST,
2500
BEGETSS GO GET SHARED SEGMENT
2600
LAR1,8(,R1) IF YES, STEP REG 1
2700
CLI 0(R1),C'(' NOW CHECK IF THERE IS A PAREN
2800
BNE *+8 IF YES,
2900
LAR1,8(,R1)STEP AGAIN
3000
CLI 0(R1),C'T' NOW CHECK IF 'TEST' MODE
3100
BNE GETSN NO - GET SHARED SEGMENT ‡VA43154
3200
LAR6,C'T' SIGNAL IN TEST MODECMS11
3300
B GETOWN THEN LOAD OWN COPY CMS11
3400
* GO GET SHARED SEGMENT
3500
GETSNMVC SEGNAME(8),0(R1) MOVE SEGMENT NAME‡VA43154
3600
GETSSLAR14,CONSTART
3700
*ONSTART SSM =X'00' CMS113
3800
CONSTART STENABLE INTTYPE=NONE CMS113
3850
LAR14,CONSTART
Re: PMRs
First I go here: https://www-304.ibm.com/support/electronic/myportal/!ut/p/c1/04_SB8K8xLL M9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3hnr9DgQB9TQwN_IzMDAyM_95CAEAM_AyATKB-JR96AGN1-_kahbia ehoYWZq6GBkZmHiZOPmGeBu4uxsToNsABHAnZHQ7yK363g-TxuQ4kj8d-P4_83FT9gtzQ0Ai DzIB0R0VFAMsDlI8!/dl2/d1/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS9ZQnB3LzZfQ0pVU1FMNTEwTzI2MDAyTkd UUFQwTjAwMDI!?category=0locale=en_US Make sure to log on, Then I select access premium services. When that page is displayed look for the IBMLINK link and click it. It then take you to: The applications listed below are your entitled applications. Please click on the application you would like to access. Automatic Software Alert Process (ASAP) https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/asap/asap.wss?lc=encc=US Automatic Status Tracking (AST) https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/ast/ast.wss?lc=encc=US Electronic Service Call (ESC+) https://www.ibm.com/support/electronic/uprtransition.wss?category=2lc= encc=US Electronic Technical Response (ETR) https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/etr/etr.wss?lc=encc=US New notifications https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/etr/etr.wss?lc=encc=US Preventive Service Planning (PSP) https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/psp/psp.wss?lc=encc=US Product Cross Reference (PCR) https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/pcr/pcr.wss?lc=encc=US Service Information Search (SIS) https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/sis/sis.wss?lc=encc=US Service Request and Delivery (SRD) https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/srd/srd.wss?lc=encc=US Click on ETR. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: PMRs It has been a long time since I have opened a PMR. Even then I called the Support Center to open it. Surely one can be opened electronically without too much hassle. How do I go about it? I have gone in too many circles on my own while hunting for the way. Regards, Richard Schuh == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
PMRs
It has been a long time since I have opened a PMR. Even then I called the Support Center to open it. Surely one can be opened electronically without too much hassle. How do I go about it? I have gone in too many circles on my own while hunting for the way. Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: PMRs
I use my IBMLINK user/pw, IBM's Service Link menu, click Electronic Technical Response (ETR), then on the left list of options click either 'Report a defect (problem' or 'Ask a question': fill out the screens ..., you get a PMR number and email notification when IBM's responded, then you go back to IBM's Service Link menu, but click List ETR Records, click Submit, click your PMR number from the listed PMRs. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: PMRs It has been a long time since I have opened a PMR. Even then I called the Support Center to open it. Surely one can be opened electronically without too much hassle. How do I go about it? I have gone in too many circles on my own while hunting for the way. Regards, Richard Schuh This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system.
Re: PMRs
I use IBMLINK: http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: PMRs It has been a long time since I have opened a PMR. Even then I called the Support Center to open it. Surely one can be opened electronically without too much hassle. How do I go about it? I have gone in too many circles on my own while hunting for the way. Regards, Richard Schuh _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: PMRs
I finally got off of the orbital referral queue and have opened the PMR. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: PMRs I use IBMLINK: http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: PMRs It has been a long time since I have opened a PMR. Even then I called the Support Center to open it. Surely one can be opened electronically without too much hassle. How do I go about it? I have gone in too many circles on my own while hunting for the way. Regards, Richard Schuh _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell
I have two systems with PROP in OPERATOR sending messages to OP1. The real operators log onto OP1 for interaction with the systems. One system uses Full-Screen CMS with OTTOSCR and the second system uses the PERFKIT program to manage the console traffic. The PERFKIT setup does a better job. /Tom Kern /U.S. Dept of Energy /301-903-2211 David Boyes wrote: If you have PERFKIT, set up an additional virtual machine that has all data collection turned off, and use it in basic mode. It does a very nice job of being a scrolling operator display, and has nice message filtering and highlighting already built in.
Re: CMSDDR VMARC question
I finally got all the pieces together for PIPEDDR (I think) I downloaded PIPEDDR, the PRINCETON Runtime Library, and DRPC from the VM download site. In the DRPC doc it says to run the DRPC command to load a nucleus extension, which I did. I tried to run the following command pipeddr dump bstea 191 (ftp(-h 168.162.215.71 -u x -p x -f bstea.ddr191 -debug)RUNNING ESAV5R30 And I got this result: RCVD: 227 Data transfer will passively listen to 168,162,215,71,6,110 326 +++ PASVPORT=256*PORT1+PORT2 173 +++ CALL OPEN_DATA_SOCKET HOSTIPAD DMSREX476E Error 41 running FTPPUT REXX, line 326: Bad arithmetic conversion Dump failed. Has anyone seen this error before? What have I missed? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CMSDDR VMARC question (actually - maybe the PIPEDDR DUMP/RESTORE over TCPIP is exactly what you want? if the zVM systems have connectivity, this lets you dump a disk directly from one system to another - and will save you steps...) Scott On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.commailto:scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe try a COPYFILE (PACK of the output file instead of using VMARC? That way if you use F 1024 when FTPing to zVM, you can just COPYFILE (UNPACK it.. I'm just assuming you were using VMARC to help ensure the xfer was blocked correctly.. Using COPYFILE (PACK accomplishes the same thing. Just not sure how they compare on 'compression'... You might also look at PIPEDDR -- and the PACK option .. (available on the zVM download page. google 'zvm download' to find it). Scott On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Henry, Bob bob.he...@sungardhe.commailto:bob.he...@sungardhe.com wrote: I was going to do that, but some of the MDs are VSE full volume disks. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CMSDDR VMARC question Don't know about VMARC -- but CMSDDR is packing the entire minidisk - empty space and all...Why not just VMARC the files on the disk and forget about CMSDDR? Scott On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Henry, Bob bob.he...@sungardhe.commailto:bob.he...@sungardhe.com wrote: I’m using CMSDDR and VMARC to transfer some CMS minidisks via FTP. Both utilities seem to produce more output than the original data on the minidisk(s). Here’s an example. User has 25 files (mostly COBOL source and/or JCL) in a 4 cylinder 3390 minidisk, blocked 4096. A “Q DISK” shows 76 blocks used, 644 blocks left. CMSDDR on that minidisk shows 2,957,040 bytes IN, 2,634,392 bytes OUT, 41 tracks not compacted. The output file from CMSDDR has 101 records of LRECL=49152 using 644 blocks (size 4096). VMARC (of the CMSDDR output file) shows IN=2,634,392 and OUT=3,142,240. It produces a file of 38,736 records with LRECL=80 using 757 blocks (size 4096). Does anyone have any explanation why these utilities “grow” the amount of data to be transmitted rather than “shrinking” it? Am I missing something? I’m using just the default options for both programs. Any help would be appreciated.
Re: CMSDDR VMARC question
I don’t really have access to the receiving system yet to do a PIPEDDR RESTORE so I’m trying to test this by FTPing back to the sending system. I’ve been able to do this using a simple FTP command within a REXX exec but the FTP stage of the PIPEDDR receives the “PASVPORT” error From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 4:54 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CMSDDR VMARC question You could skip the FTP: - On the receiving side -- PIPEDDR RESTORE BSTEA 191 (LISTEN - Note the IP port being listened on - let's say it's 2034 - On the sending side - PIPEDDR DUMP BSTEA 191 168.162.215.71 2034 You'll need write access to bstea 191 on the receiving side, and read on the sending. Scott p.s. You can also specify a port to listen listen on -- if you're looking to automate several disks.. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Henry, Bob bob.he...@sungardhe.commailto:bob.he...@sungardhe.com wrote: I finally got all the pieces together for PIPEDDR (I think) I downloaded PIPEDDR, the PRINCETON Runtime Library, and DRPC from the VM download site. In the DRPC doc it says to run the DRPC command to load a nucleus extension, which I did. I tried to run the following command pipeddr dump bstea 191 (ftp(-h 168.162.215.71 -u x -p x -f bstea.ddr191 -debug)RUNNING ESAV5R30 And I got this result: RCVD: 227 Data transfer will passively listen to 168,162,215,71,6,110 326 +++ PASVPORT=256*PORT1+PORT2 173 +++ CALL OPEN_DATA_SOCKET HOSTIPAD DMSREX476E Error 41 running FTPPUT REXX, line 326: Bad arithmetic conversion Dump failed. Has anyone seen this error before? What have I missed? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CMSDDR VMARC question (actually - maybe the PIPEDDR DUMP/RESTORE over TCPIP is exactly what you want? if the zVM systems have connectivity, this lets you dump a disk directly from one system to another - and will save you steps...) Scott On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.commailto:scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe try a COPYFILE (PACK of the output file instead of using VMARC? That way if you use F 1024 when FTPing to zVM, you can just COPYFILE (UNPACK it.. I'm just assuming you were using VMARC to help ensure the xfer was blocked correctly.. Using COPYFILE (PACK accomplishes the same thing. Just not sure how they compare on 'compression'... You might also look at PIPEDDR -- and the PACK option .. (available on the zVM download page. google 'zvm download' to find it). Scott On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Henry, Bob bob.he...@sungardhe.commailto:bob.he...@sungardhe.com wrote: I was going to do that, but some of the MDs are VSE full volume disks. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CMSDDR VMARC question Don't know about VMARC -- but CMSDDR is packing the entire minidisk - empty space and all...Why not just VMARC the files on the disk and forget about CMSDDR? Scott On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Henry, Bob bob.he...@sungardhe.commailto:bob.he...@sungardhe.com wrote: I’m using CMSDDR and VMARC to transfer some CMS minidisks via FTP. Both utilities seem to produce more output than the original data on the minidisk(s). Here’s an example. User has 25 files (mostly COBOL source and/or JCL) in a 4 cylinder 3390 minidisk, blocked 4096. A “Q DISK” shows 76 blocks used, 644 blocks left. CMSDDR on that minidisk shows 2,957,040 bytes IN, 2,634,392 bytes OUT, 41 tracks not compacted. The output file from CMSDDR has 101 records of LRECL=49152 using 644 blocks (size 4096). VMARC (of the CMSDDR output file) shows IN=2,634,392 and OUT=3,142,240. It produces a file of 38,736 records with LRECL=80 using 757 blocks (size 4096). Does anyone have any explanation why these utilities “grow” the amount of data to be transmitted rather than “shrinking” it? Am I missing something? I’m using just the default options for both programs. Any help would be appreciated.
Re: Writing a screen scrolling shell
Colin--It sounds as if you are not really looking for a way to manage or respond to what shows up on a screen. You "merely" want to handle all of the secuser'd messages that are sent to some collector user. You said that you had tried VM:Operator, but that there were some problems. I use IBM's PROP, which is kind of ugly but I have many of our service machines secuser'd to SYSOP, which is where I run PROP. It will trap any message you specify, using about any kind of filtering or detection as far as message content or sender you can think of, and then, if necessary, execute a routine or exec. It can or does log everything it sees and you can get to that log anytime. The LGLOPER, logical operator, can be on a real live screen. I never run our SYSOP id with a console. I don't even think you'd see anything on it. It always is disconnected and the logical operator id has the screen contents that may need to be seen by a real live person (if any real live person ever looks in that direction). Jim Colin Allinson wrote: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0044FA19C1257651_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com Wrote (in part) :- OTTOSCR is an old tool to make fullscreen CMS scroll, don't know if it still runs. Kris, Thank you. I will certainly look at OTTOSCR. Even if it does not run "out of the box", it may give me a good basis to start from. To explain a little more - what I am trying to do is quite simple really (but, as always, with a couple of twists). This output screen will not need (and should not) wait for any input. The idea is that it will be monitored by external automation software looking for specific conditions and creating alerts. The userids generating the secuser output will, in fact, be TPF guests and, as the automation software already monitors the native TPF consoles (which scroll) then something that replicates this will eliminate the need for new monitoring routines being written. The only complexity is that this will not be a 'real screen' but a soft virtual screen that is doing the monitoring. It is already working, sort of, with VM:Operator but there are some issues in the way it handles the screen that causes VM:Operator to run out of buffer memory after a couple of days (there are also display constraints). I really am looking to do something very simple. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH --=_alternative 0044FA19C1257651_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" brfont size=1 face="sans-serif"bKris Buelens lt;kris.buel...@gmail.comgt;/b/fontfont size=2 face="sans-serif" Wrote (in part) :-/font br brttfont size=2gt; OTTOSCR is an old tool to make fullscreen CMS scroll, don't know if itbr gt; still runs/font/ttfont size=2 face="sans-serif"./font br brfont size=2 face="sans-serif"Kris,/font br brfont size=2 face="sans-serif"Thank you. I will certainly look at OTTOSCR. Even if it does not run quot;out of the boxquot;, it may give me a good basis to start from./font br brfont size=2 face="sans-serif"To explain a little more - what I am trying to do is quite simple really (but, as always, nbsp;with a couple of twists). This output screen will not need (and should not) wait for any input. The idea is that it will be monitored by external automation software looking for specific conditions and creating alerts. /font br brfont size=2 face="sans-serif"The userids generating the secuser output will, in fact, be TPF guests and, as the automation software already monitors the native TPF consoles (which scroll) then something that replicates this will eliminate the need for new monitoring routines being written./font br brfont size=2 face="sans-serif"The only complexity is that this will not be a 'real screen' but a soft virtual screen that is doing the monitoring. It is already working, sort of, with VM:Operator but there are some issues in the way it handles the screen that causes VM:Operator to run out of buffer memory after a couple of days (there are also display constraints). /font br brfont size=2 face="sans-serif"I really am looking to do something very simple./font br brfont size=2 color=#1a61a9 face="Arial"bbr Colin Allinson/b/fontfont size=1 face="Arial"bbr /b/fontfont size=1 color=#66 face="Arial"br Amadeus Data Processing GmbHbr /fontfont size=2 face="sans-serif"br /font --=_alternative 0044FA19C1257651_=-- -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell jab...@cornell.edu
