Re: z/VM PSP Buckets
I opened a thread here 6 months ago, Applying Maintenance - Best Practice, which is in the archives. It contains many helpful instructions on exactly how to apply maintenance including setting up a Level 2, VM under VM, to initially IVP your maintenance. Maintenance should rarely be applied directly to 1st Level VM, but should almost always be applied and IVPed first on 2nd Level VM. Doug dsh...@bellsouth.net Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/16/2011 11:17 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM PSP Buckets On 2/16/2011 11:44, Billy Bingham wrote: All, Having never applied service of any kind to z/VM, what would be a WAG to apply say PSP or any hardware buckets. Thanks, Billy Billy, Applied RSU1002+PSP+z196 PTF's to 3 systems, tested in-house code, etc, ready to go in 2 days. Yes, I have been doing z/VM for a few more years than I care to admit. READ and re-read all instructions, question everything, keep DETAILED step by step notes(helps for next time), you say it's your first time - MAKE DDR BACKUPS before starting, create a second level VM under VM to practice on. Give yourself 2 weeks - start to finish. Maybe less IF you can hide out some where away from daily interruptions.. Learn how to search the archives of this IBMVM list. The answers to almost all of the issues/questions you encounter are out there somewhere. Building a 2nd level system (VM under VM) is the best and safest way to get it the hang of it, easy to start over if needed. In keeping with the VM mascot ways, post away, we are just a bunch cuddly bears here (dare I say old bears?) Ha.. Best Regards, Doug
Re: z/VM Monitor Records
There's no doubt that, if you can afford it, it's a good idea to take one of the commercial options. Failing that, I'd strongly recommend having a look at the PIPELINE stage called STARMON - it's very easy to set up a data-collector based around STARMON. (A search of the archives using the STARMON keyword will throw up a few references.)
Re: Watson
Thanks2 D. Boyes for the explanation! Sharing: FYI: noted from article: PCMAG.COM by Lance Ulanoff: From end of article: Microsoft, Symantec, ASUS and everyone else making technology for consumers, I have a warning for you: IBM and Watson have just put you on notice. Your customers have seen the future on Jeopardy!, and they're gonna want it NOW. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Watson Thanks for the explanation of the problem domain, Dr DB.; I appreciate it. On 02/16/2011 10:42 AM, David Boyes wrote: I, too, wished IBM would do more to highlight the z series capabilities in public forums, but Watson is a massively parallel system (2K+ cores, I believe), and I have my doubts as to whether or not a collection of z10s could be integrated together tightly enough to meet the software's requirements. I could be wrong, however. :-) It could be done, but this is a case where it would have been the wrong choice. This is a vector-oriented SIMD problem (enormous numbers of simple comparisons on bits of data to determine if it has a right answer or not), and it's embarrassingly parallel in nature (very little shared data between comparisons, few locks, few context switches required). This is POWER's sweet spot, and forcing a Z into this role is probably not a good idea. This is not the kind of problem the Z arch is designed to solve.
Re: z/VM Monitor Records
Hi Billy, First you can look at MONWRITE within VM itself. It writes all records to disk. Process it wth MONVIEW (on the VM download pages). We have an own process. Main reason is we want to enable all MONITOR in VM so we can monitor all parameters online. But we only want to write selected records to disk, just the ones we need. Also a 3390-3 is to small to store all within one day. It is based on the MONITOR processes descibed in redbook REDP3818 (http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp3818.html?Open). The process has the STARMON stage in a pipeline. It retrieves the records and writes selected records to disk. As Jeff said, search for STARMON, it will show up. A similar process is in use for monitoring and ticketing. Just to start, take a look at this thread in the linux-390 list: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/msg58022.html Regards, Berry. Op 16-02-11 15:21, Billy Bingham schreef: Hello all, Does anyone have a procedure that they use to collect and process z/VM monitor records that they would be willing to share? Thanks in advance, Billy
2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
Hello Everyone, I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, unde r Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID requirements is: If installing from a VM minidisk, access to a CMS-formatted minidisk tha t is the equivalent of at least 4500 3390 cylinders. Our 3390-3 volumes have only 3,339 cylinders on them. What am I missing here? Please go easy on me I'm VERY nervous about this upgrade. Thanks, Sherry P.S. Stephen, I'm willing to learn... :)
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
Your not...you need a bigger 3390!I just did the install for 6.1 via FTP. Is that viable for you? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Sherry Everhart Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation Hello Everyone, I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, under Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID requirements is: If installing from a VM minidisk, access to a CMS-formatted minidisk that is the equivalent of at least 4500 3390 cylinders. Our 3390-3 volumes have only 3,339 cylinders on them. What am I missing here? Please go easy on me I'm VERY nervous about this upgrade. Thanks, Sherry P.S. Stephen, I'm willing to learn... :) _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
You're not installing from a VM minidisk - you're installing from a DVD .. no? So you can ignore this part... There are some other disks that you need defined (a 22CC and others as I recall) -- and I always just defined them using temp space to do the install: DEF T3390 22CC 5 FORMAT 22CC B They aren't needed after the install - so I never saw the point of setting them up in the directory unless you don't use TDISK space... also as I recall - none are bigger than a few hundred cylinders.. Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Sherry Everhart severh...@maccnet.comwrote: Hello Everyone, I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, under Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID requirements is: If installing from a VM minidisk, access to a CMS-formatted minidisk that is the equivalent of at least 4500 3390 cylinders. Our 3390-3 volumes have only 3,339 cylinders on them. What am I missing here? Please go easy on me I'm VERY nervous about this upgrade. Thanks, Sherry P.S. Stephen, I'm willing to learn... :)
DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL , is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve.
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
I should clarify and say that to install from 'DVD' - .. you can have the DVD mounted under any workstation/server (including the HMC) that is accessible to z/VM via the network so FTP can be used to do the install and retrieve the zVM parts.I myself typically just use a .iso file mounted under a Linux workstation -- and ftp to that. I've never actually tried a minidisk install myself Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote: You're not installing from a VM minidisk - you're installing from a DVD .. no? So you can ignore this part... There are some other disks that you need defined (a 22CC and others as I recall) -- and I always just defined them using temp space to do the install: DEF T3390 22CC 5 FORMAT 22CC B They aren't needed after the install - so I never saw the point of setting them up in the directory unless you don't use TDISK space... also as I recall - none are bigger than a few hundred cylinders.. Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Sherry Everhart severh...@maccnet.comwrote: Hello Everyone, I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, under Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID requirements is: If installing from a VM minidisk, access to a CMS-formatted minidisk that is the equivalent of at least 4500 3390 cylinders. Our 3390-3 volumes have only 3,339 cylinders on them. What am I missing here? Please go easy on me I'm VERY nervous about this upgrade. Thanks, Sherry P.S. Stephen, I'm willing to learn... :)
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
CP VARY ON address ?? Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL, is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve.
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
If you don't want to change your SYSTEM CONFIG file to specify those devices as ONLINE_AT_IPL, you could vary the devices online in your AUTOLOG1 profile exec. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Perez Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL= , is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at = IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve.
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
You could also have a second config file that includes the devices in the online_at_ipl list. When you ipl, put a console address in the LOADPARMS area (or as the LOADPARM parameter if you are ipling 2nd level) and specify the alternate config file name in the SALIPL screen. If the devices are currently offline because of duplicate volsers, you could make the older devices offline in the alternate file. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG If you don't want to change your SYSTEM CONFIG file to specify those devices as ONLINE_AT_IPL, you could vary the devices online in your AUTOLOG1 profile exec. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Perez Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL= , is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at = IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve.
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online command. The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes. So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing the system from initializing. My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing. Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG CP VARY ON address ?? Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.commailto:sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL, is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve. ** This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message and any copies immediately thereafter. Thank you. ** CLLD
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
As a Note: You can mount an .ISO under Windows using freeware (I use Virtual CloneDrive from SlySoft.com). Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation I should clarify and say that to install from 'DVD' - .. you can have the DVD mounted under any workstation/server (including the HMC) that is accessible to z/VM via the network so FTP can be used to do the install and retrieve the zVM parts.I myself typically just use a .iso file mounted under a Linux workstation -- and ftp to that. I've never actually tried a minidisk install myself Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: You're not installing from a VM minidisk - you're installing from a DVD .. no? So you can ignore this part... There are some other disks that you need defined (a 22CC and others as I recall) -- and I always just defined them using temp space to do the install: DEF T3390 22CC 5 FORMAT 22CC B They aren't needed after the install - so I never saw the point of setting them up in the directory unless you don't use TDISK space... also as I recall - none are bigger than a few hundred cylinders.. Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Sherry Everhart severh...@maccnet.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, under Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID requirements is: If installing from a VM minidisk, access to a CMS-formatted minidisk that is the equivalent of at least 4500 3390 cylinders. Our 3390-3 volumes have only 3,339 cylinders on them. What am I missing here? Please go easy on me I'm VERY nervous about this upgrade. Thanks, Sherry P.S. Stephen, I'm willing to learn... :) _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
You can actually mix them: Devices , Online_at_IPL -, Offline_at_IPL 000C-000E, Offline_at_IPL 0170-0179, Offline_at_IPL 0500-053F, : : Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online command. The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes. So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing the system from initializing. My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing. Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG CP VARY ON address ?? Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL, is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve. ** This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message and any copies immediately thereafter. Thank you. ** CLLD _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
Sherry, Instead of installing direct from an FTP server, you can put the files on a VM minidisk and install from there. To do that, the minidisk must have at least 4500 cylinders. Back when DVD installation was first introduced (z/VM 5.1.0, I think), we only had 3390-3 disks on VM, so I tried installing from SFS. It mostly worked. The install would run out of memory periodically, but I could restart it and it would pick up where it left off. IBM's answer was that installation from SFS wasn't supported. I don't know if they fixed the memory leak in a subsequent release. Dennis If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. -- James Madison, in Federalist No. 51 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Sherry Everhart Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:36 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation Hello Everyone, I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, unde r Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID requirements is: If installing from a VM minidisk, access to a CMS-formatted minidisk tha t is the equivalent of at least 4500 3390 cylinders. Our 3390-3 volumes have only 3,339 cylinders on them. What am I missing here? Please go easy on me I'm VERY nervous about this upgrade. Thanks, Sherry P.S. Stephen, I'm willing to learn... :) -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to Sender are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing.
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL screen ? Or can we ? Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG You can actually mix them: Devices , Online_at_IPL -, Offline_at_IPL 000C-000E, Offline_at_IPL 0170-0179, Offline_at_IPL 0500-053F, : : Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online command. The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes. So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing the system from initializing. My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing. Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG CP VARY ON address ?? Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.commailto:sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL, is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve. ** This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message and any copies immediately thereafter. Thank you. ** CLLD _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
Do you have a different system config file that has your page packs as online? You could use the SAIPL screen to point to that config file. Do you have spare packs that are online at ipl? You could format them as page and clip them to the volsers you system is expecting for its page packs, then IPL and do your repairs. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online command. The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes. So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing the system from initializing. My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing. Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG CP VARY ON address ?? Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL, is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve. ** This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message and any copies immediately thereafter. Thank you. ** CLLD
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL screen ? Or can we ? Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG You can actually mix them: Devices , Online_at_IPL -, Offline_at_IPL 000C-000E, Offline_at_IPL 0170-0179, Offline_at_IPL 0500-053F, : : Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online command. The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes. So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing the system from initializing. My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing. Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG CP VARY ON address ?? Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.commailto:sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL, is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve. ** This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message and any copies immediately thereafter. Thank you. ** CLLD _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
I do not have another filename to specify. I can create one at a later time after we finish this test because we have a time frame to get this test to work, but in the meantime, is there an override command to the DEVICES OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG that I can use through the the SALIPL screen ? Thanks, Steve Steve S. Perez zSeries Technical Services From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL screen ? Or can we ? Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG You can actually mix them: Devices , Online_at_IPL -, Offline_at_IPL 000C-000E, Offline_at_IPL 0170-0179, Offline_at_IPL 0500-053F, : : Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online command. The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes. So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing the system from initializing. My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing. Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG CP VARY ON address ?? Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.commailto:sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL, is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve. ** This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message and any copies immediately thereafter. Thank you. ** CLLD _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 02:37 EST, Sherry Everhart severh...@maccnet.com wrote: I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, under Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID requirements is: If installing from a VM minidisk, access to a CMS-formatted minidisk that is the equivalent of at least 4500 3390 cylinders. Our 3390-3 volumes have only 3,339 cylinders on them. What am I missing here? That is a bit confusing, isn't it? It means that if you want to do an FTP install (annoyingly, yet understandably, documented as a subset of the DVD install) AND you want to use the VM FTP server, THEN you will need the equivalent of 4500 cylinders to contain the contents of the DVD. If you're actually installing from some other FTP server, then you follow the 3GB guideline. Of course, you can always use SFS to hold the DVD contents (not a DVD .iso image!) since it aggregates multiple minidisks into a single filepool. Follow the instructions for uploading the DVD contents via FTP, but CD VMSYSU:MAINT.VM54 (for example, assuming you have done all the SFS admin things needed to make that happen.) It's often hard to ferret out whether DVD refers to the physical media, the DVD contents, or the HMC Load from DVD/FTP-related functions. But it's easy once you know how! :-) Reader's Comment Forms are always welcomed. (E-mail your comments to mhvr...@us.ibm.com) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
Sherry, Note that what I was referring to in my previous note and what Alan describes below are not the same thing. You can do what Alan described, using the VM FTP server to serve the files. You can also install from a VM minidisk without using any FTP server. You can get the files on the minidisk by putting the DVD in your PC and using your terminal emulator to upload the files. If you do that, it needs to be a 4500-cylinder minidisk. Dennis If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. -- James Madison, in Federalist No. 51 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:56 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 02:37 EST, Sherry Everhart severh...@maccnet.com wrote: I need some clarification. I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2. In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD Installation, in the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, under Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID requirements is: If installing from a VM minidisk, access to a CMS-formatted minidisk that is the equivalent of at least 4500 3390 cylinders. Our 3390-3 volumes have only 3,339 cylinders on them. What am I missing here? That is a bit confusing, isn't it? It means that if you want to do an FTP install (annoyingly, yet understandably, documented as a subset of the DVD install) AND you want to use the VM FTP server, THEN you will need the equivalent of 4500 cylinders to contain the contents of the DVD. If you're actually installing from some other FTP server, then you follow the 3GB guideline. Of course, you can always use SFS to hold the DVD contents (not a DVD .iso image!) since it aggregates multiple minidisks into a single filepool. Follow the instructions for uploading the DVD contents via FTP, but CD VMSYSU:MAINT.VM54 (for example, assuming you have done all the SFS admin things needed to make that happen.) It's often hard to ferret out whether DVD refers to the physical media, the DVD contents, or the HMC Load from DVD/FTP-related functions. But it's easy once you know how! :-) Reader's Comment Forms are always welcomed. (E-mail your comments to mhvr...@us.ibm.com) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to Sender are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing.
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
The overrides in the SAPL only permit to enter another filename to influence OFFLINE/ONLINE, no special keyword. But, what's so difficult in copying your current SYSTEM CONFIG in eg TEST CONFIG, make your changes and specifying FNAME=TEST in the SAPL screen? 2011/2/17 Perez, Steve S sspe...@corelogic.com I do not have another filename to specify. I can create one at a later time after we finish this test because we have a time frame to get this test to work, but in the meantime, is there an override command to the DEVICES OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG that I can use through the the SALIPL screen ? Thanks, Steve *Steve S. Perez* zSeries Technical Services -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Schuh, Richard *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:17 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space. Regards, Richard Schuh -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Perez, Steve S *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:14 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL screen ? Or can we ? Thanks, Steve -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Frank M. Ramaekers *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG You can actually mix them: Devices , Online_at_IPL -, Offline_at_IPL 000C-000E, Offline_at_IPL 0170-0179, Offline_at_IPL 0500-053F, : : Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Perez, Steve S *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online command. The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes. So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing the system from initializing. My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing. Thanks, Steve -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Scott Rohling *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG CP VARY ON address ?? Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello Listers, If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL, is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? Thanks, Steve. ** This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message and any copies immediately thereafter. Thank you. ** CLLD _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
Hi Scott, I have a userid, VM54INST defined in the directory already: USER VM54INST 256M 256M ABCDEFG INCLUDE MACCPROF OPTION LNKNOPAS MDISK 0191 3390 1201 10 EM0F05 MR RVM54INS WVM54INS MDISK 3390 1211 5 EM0F05 MR RVM54INS WVM54INS MDISK 222C 3390 1216 5 EM0F05 MR RVM54INS WVM54INS MDISK 2CF1 3390 1221 120 EM0F05 MR RVM54INS WVM54INS Thanks, Sherry
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
Oh, you don't have TCP/IP on your 1st level VM? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Sherry Everhart Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation Hi Frank, We aren't currently running TCPIP on VM so I don't think this is an option for us, based upon the FTP instructions in Chapter 6. Thanks, Sherry _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
Mike, The answer to both those question is 1) yes 2) no. Our DR remote location has 2 LPARs dedicated for our DR Testing. One LPAR is for z/OS and the other for z/VM. I will keep your recovery scenario/suggestion in mind. It looks like something that can be useful in the future when the need arises with the ideal scenario that you posed. Thank you for your insight. Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Steve, 1) Do you know the volser, and the start and end cylinders of your MAINT CF1 disk? 2) Do you have another z/VM system available (even your D.R. provider's Floor system)? If the answer to both of those is yes, then you're home free... - Shutdown your partly IPLed z/VM system with the bad config file. From MAINT on that other z/VM system, CP ATTACH your IPL volume to that system: - CP ATTACH rdev SYSTEM - CP DEFINE MDISK EEE start_cyl end_cyl volser - ACCESS EEE W - XEDIT SYSTEM CONFIG W - fix and FILE the config file - CPSYNTAX SYSTEM CONFIG W - RELEASE W (DET - Bring up your system with the corrected SYSTEM CONFIG file. - Make note of what needs to be fixed when back home. For you, and anyone else who doesn't have one... When home, - build a 1-pack stand-alone rescue system. Ours is called the VM Operating System Hipervisor Tool, and resides on a disk with a matching volser: VMOSHT. That volser is easy to remember, easy to find, and pretty self-explanatory. :-) - Test that 1-pack stand-alone rescue system 2nd level (i.e. from your own personal Class G userid, without any special DASD attached. If it needs resources that it doesn't have to come up to the point that MAINT can issue CP DEFINE MDISK, then it's not a stand-alone recovery system. - DDR that volser to tapes, and ensure that a copy is kept onsite, and a copy at your offsite vault. Good Luck! Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Perez, Steve S sspe...@corelogic.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/17/2011 02:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG I do not have another filename to specify. I can create one at a later time after we finish this test because we have a time frame to get this test to work, but in the meantime, is there an override command to the DEVICES OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG that I can use through the the SALIPL screen ? Thanks, Steve Steve S. Perez zSeries Technical Services From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL screen ? Or can we ? Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG You can actually mix them: Devices , Online_at_IPL -, Offline_at_IPL 000C-000E, Offline_at_IPL 0170-0179, Offline_at_IPL 0500-053F, : : Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Perez, Steve S Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online command. The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes. So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing the system from initializing. My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing. Thanks, Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, February
Re: z/VM 6.2 release date?
But what about the tiger? :) ___ Karl S Huf | Senior Vice President | World Wide Technology 840 S Canal, Chicago, IL, 60607 | phone (312)630-6287 | k...@ntrs.com Please visit northerntrust.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is confidential, may be privileged and is meant only for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender ASAP and delete this message from your system. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: To the extent that this message or any attachment concerns tax matters, it is not intended to be used and cannot be used by a taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by law. For more information about this notice, see http://www.northerntrust.com/circular230 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 02/16/2011 04:43:15 PM: From: John Franciscovich jfran...@vnet.ibm.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 02/16/2011 04:57 PM Subject: Re: z/VM 6.2 release date? Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Folks who attend John Franciscovich's presentation on SSI/LGR at SHARE can try to make him reveal what he knows. Just surround him and poke him with sharp sticks. See if he'll squeal. ;-) Things to do before I leave for SHARE: 1. Self-defense training a. Bananas- check b. Raspberries- check c. Citrus and sangria - uh-oh - is there a lesson for that? Maybe the raspberry defense will work d. Sharp sticks - SHARE won't allow those in the room (or will they?). Wear running shoes just in case. 2. Have my session moved to a room with a 16-ton weight - check 3. Re-think who my friends really are (see sharp sticks, squeal) - in-progress 4. Rehearse rehearse rehearse - Anything I say I know or I think I know may change at any time before, during, or after I say it or think it ... or it may not :-) John Franciscovich
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
Frank, no, we don't have TCP/IP running on 1st level VM. (At least I don't think so!) And I don't understand the Filepool method that Alan spoke of either. Sorry, Alan, but mostly when you tell me things it all sounds a bit like when Charlie Brown's teacher talks (Good grief... :)) And Dennis, I don't know how to get 4500 cylinders from a 3390-3 disk, so that I can copy all the files on the dvds to a VM minidisk, which leads m e back to my first posting. Truly Humbled, Sherry E.
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
To see if you have TCPIP running - try: VMLINK TCPMAINT 592 IFCONFIG If you get a response showing an IP address, etc -- then TCPIP is probably running -- Try PING xx.xx.xx.xx(where xx.xx.xx.xx is the IP address IFCONFIG gave you). If you really don't have TCPIP -- then you will have to create an SFS filepool (which will consist of at least 2 3390-3) - and then upload the dvd contents to it using terminal emulation file xfer. Having TCPIP and using FTP is by far the simplest way to go if all you have is 3390-3 - setting up SFS isn't trivial for a beginner. Scott Rohling On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Sherry Everhart severh...@maccnet.comwrote: Frank, no, we don't have TCP/IP running on 1st level VM. (At least I don't think so!) And I don't understand the Filepool method that Alan spoke of either. Sorry, Alan, but mostly when you tell me things it all sounds a bit like when Charlie Brown's teacher talks (Good grief... :)) And Dennis, I don't know how to get 4500 cylinders from a 3390-3 disk, so that I can copy all the files on the dvds to a VM minidisk, which leads me back to my first posting. Truly Humbled, Sherry E.
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
Sherry, The only way to get 4500 cylinders from a 3390-3 is to put two of them in an SFS filepool. If you already have this set up, then the rest is relatively easy. You can use the VM minidisk install method with minor changes. Upload the files to SFS with your terminal emulator, then follow the directions for VM minidisk install. When you're told to access the minidisk, access the SFS directory instead. If the process runs out of memory and abends, IPL CMS and re-run the command that failed. It will restart from a checkpoint and keep going. Eventually, you'll get to the end. Dennis If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. -- James Madison, in Federalist No. 51 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Sherry Everhart Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 13:13 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation Frank, no, we don't have TCP/IP running on 1st level VM. (At least I don't think so!) And I don't understand the Filepool method that Alan spoke of either. Sorry, Alan, but mostly when you tell me things it all sounds a bit like when Charlie Brown's teacher talks (Good grief... :)) And Dennis, I don't know how to get 4500 cylinders from a 3390-3 disk, so that I can copy all the files on the dvds to a VM minidisk, which leads m e back to my first posting. Truly Humbled, Sherry E. -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to Sender are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing.
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
vmlink tcpmaint 592 DMSVML2060I TCPMAINT 592 linked as 0121 file mode Z Ready; ifconfig DTCIFC2605E TCP/IP stack TCPIP is not available Ready(00012); It's not running. :(
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
Steve, If I understand correctly your DASD is mirrored to your offsite location. If so the 1-pack recovery system would/could be mirrored there as well. Then there would be no need to keep a DDR tape dump of that volume there. But when preparing for D.R. both belts and suspenders (and offsite clean underwear) is a good idea anyway. BTW, if you had a test z/VM system which could be IPLed on the bare iron (i.e. the volsers do not begin on cylinder 1, as is often suggested here for 2nd level systems), the test system would suffice to recover just as well as a 1-pack recovery system. We must wear both belts and suspenders here, as we have both. I try to have as many ways out of any hole I might dig as possible - and plenty of clean bandages for the holes I might shoot in my foot. Our 1-pack recovery system was built the Monday following a change made to the SYSTEM CONFIG while preparing for a D.R. test. Due to those SYSTEM CONFIG changes we could not IPL either. A separate z/VM system (already in place for z/OS guests) was used during our D.R. test to DEFINE MDISK and correct the production system SYSTEM CONFIG file. We could just rely on that other system, but as things change, often in a hurry (e.g. systems moving between data centers), I feel more comfortable with a rarely-changed 1-pack recovery system. We place it on an rdev with an easy to remember address (in this case it's 900, but 666 would be even easier if we had that as a DASD address). BTW, we have a D.R. test this weekend. If things go normally, we'll be given the LPAR at about 23:00 Saturday, and be done by about 00:15 -- really only needing about 15 minutes to IPL, but doing a few double-checks anyway. z/VM... gotta love it! :-) If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Perez, Steve S sspe...@corelogic.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/17/2011 03:04 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Mike, The answer to both those question is 1) yes 2) no. Our DR remote location has 2 LPARs dedicated for our DR Testing. One LPAR is for z/OS and the other for z/VM. I will keep your recovery scenario/suggestion in mind. It looks like something that can be useful in the future when the need arises with the ideal scenario that you posed. Thank you for your insight. Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Steve, 1) Do you know the volser, and the start and end cylinders of your MAINT CF1 disk? 2) Do you have another z/VM system available (even your D.R. provider's Floor system)? If the answer to both of those is yes, then you're home free... - Shutdown your partly IPLed z/VM system with the bad config file. From MAINT on that other z/VM system, CP ATTACH your IPL volume to that system: - CP ATTACH rdev SYSTEM - CP DEFINE MDISK EEE start_cyl end_cyl volser - ACCESS EEE W - XEDIT SYSTEM CONFIG W - fix and FILE the config file - CPSYNTAX SYSTEM CONFIG W - RELEASE W (DET - Bring up your system with the corrected SYSTEM CONFIG file. - Make note of what needs to be fixed when back home. For you, and anyone else who doesn't have one... When home, - build a 1-pack stand-alone rescue system. Ours is called the VM Operating System Hipervisor Tool, and resides on a disk with a matching volser: VMOSHT. That volser is easy to remember, easy to find, and pretty self-explanatory. :-) - Test that 1-pack stand-alone rescue system 2nd level (i.e. from your own personal Class G userid, without any special DASD attached. If it needs resources that it doesn't have to come up to the point that MAINT can issue CP DEFINE MDISK, then it's not a stand-alone recovery system. - DDR that volser to tapes, and ensure that a copy is kept onsite, and a copy at your offsite vault. Good Luck! Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Perez, Steve S sspe...@corelogic.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/17/2011 02:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG I do not have another filename to specify. I can create one at a later time after we finish this test because we have a time frame to get this test to work, but in the meantime, is there an override command to the DEVICES OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SYSTEM
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 04:15 EST, Sherry Everhart severh...@maccnet.com wrote: Frank, no, we don't have TCP/IP running on 1st level VM. (At least I don't think so!) And I don't understand the Filepool method that Alan spoke of either. Sorry, Alan, but mostly when you tell me things it all sounds a bit like when Charlie Brown's teacher talks (Good grief... :)) And Dennis, I don't know how to get 4500 cylinders from a 3390-3 disk, so that I can copy all the files on the dvds to a VM minidisk, which leads me back to my first posting. If you have a DVD, there are 5 ways to use it: 1. IPL it 1st level via the HMC. 2. Load its contents to an FTP server and IPL 1st level from the HMC 3. Load its contents to an FTP server and do a 2nd-level install. 4. Load its contents to a minidisk of at least 4500 cylinders and do a 2nd level install. 5. Use it as a Frisbee(R) and annoy the people around you. And just so we're clear, the IBM Board of Directors recommends AGAINST #5 and is not supported. For 2nd level install, you have two choices: 3 or 4. If you don't have 4500 contiguous cylinders available, then #3 is your only choice. To make it work, you must enable TCP/IP on your 1st level system so that files can be transferred. If you haven't done that, go look at the IPWIZARD references in the Automated Installation book. In the above FTP scenarios, the load its contents is an abstract term that could mean copy the files from DVD to disk, mount an .iso image as a directory or a drive, or access the DVD directly. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 03:18 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space. On SAPL: fn=filename On the LOADPARM: FNxx (yep, limited to 6 chars in filename) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). The ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems. It will run even if nothing else will. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
Thanks, Alan and all who have responded. It has been a learning experience and appreciate everyone's input. Kind Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:53 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). The ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems. It will run even if nothing else will. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott ** This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message and any copies immediately thereafter. Thank you. ** CLLD
