Re: Moving On
Goodbye, Richard, and good luck! I see I haven't read the IBMVM list since sometime in June. Sorry about t he belated response to your retirement. On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:00:43 -0700, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote : In just a few minutes, I will be checking out of the Visa hotel (or perh aps asylum - they put up with me for 13+ years). I want to thank everyone who sent their congratul ations and well wishes, and to reiterate my thanks to the everyone on who has helped me over the years (going back to the pre-Mitre Scheduler and the VM SHARE Tape days ). I may not rejoin th e list until I have moved, am settled in, and have started enjoying my 7 day weekends. I am l ooking forward to reestablishing my connection with the group. Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: CMSDDR failing
Hi Wayne, I've used PIPEDDR in 10GB MDISK and work fine, no problem.
Download the new version of here
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/
It is a great tool of Bruce Hayden.
Regards
ATTE
Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila
BBVA America
Mexico D.F
2011/7/11 Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
Sorry -I meant that 512*2097152 = 1073741824 .. which is the
real block count when starting at 0
Exactly 1 gigabyte...
Scott Rohling
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm wondering if CMSDDR has some kind of internal limit of 1G.. I notice
that:
512*2097151=1073741824(512 byte blocks)
1024*1024*1024=1073741824 (1K cubed)
Scott Rohling
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Smith, Wayne H Mr CTR DISA CDB12
wayne.smith@csd.disa.mil wrote:
**
I’m having issues using CMSDDR. The output is copied below. Any
thoughts?
The device I’m CMSDDRing is an MDISK defined on an EDEV. The size of
the MDISK is 17 gig.
I **can** use CP DDR to copy the MDISK to another MDISK of equal size
defined on the same EDEV. I ran CP DDR because the error message seemed
to imply that there was an I/O error reading the input device(A497). CP
DDR could read the entire MDISK so I believe the error message is
misleading.
A couple random pieces of information:
- We are running z/VM 5.4; CMS Level 24, Service Level 002
- I’ve used CMSDDR to create CMS files from other smaller MDISKs
defined on the same EDEV.
- The MDISK on which I’m trying to create the new file is larger
than the MDISK I’m trying to CMSDDR.
- I’ve tried CMSDDR with a small and large (2 gig) virtual machine
size.
- The CMSDDR invocation which fails does create a file on the target
MDISK. I believe it contains blocks 0-2097151.
cmsddr dump a497 temp z
z/VM DASD DUMP/RESTORE PROGRAM
HCPDDR696I VOLID READ IS LXA497 NOT VOLSER
DUMPING LXA497
DUMPING DATA 07/11/11 AT 20.42.35 GMT FROM LXA497
INPUT BLOCK EXTENTSOUTPUT BLOCK EXTENTS
START STOP STARTSTOP
HCPDDR705E I/O ERROR A497 IRB 000311D0 0E00
SNS 8000 0004
CCW 63031820 4010
INPUT 02097152 OUTPUT 02097152
0209715102097151
END OF DUMP
BYTES IN 1073829304 BYTES OUT 0020546574
BLOCKS NOT COMPACTED ON TAPE - 00
END OF JOB
Ready(4); T=0.80/1.42 16:42:54
--
Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila
z/OS z/VM systems programmer
Mexico, City.
Re: CMSDDR failing
I believe I've found a solution to my problem. I've defined 4 small MDISK overlays on the 17G MDISK; each section can be CMSDDRed. I assume I was running into some type of CMS file size restriction. I don't really need to know what the restriction is/was. I can accomplish my task by splitting up the MDISK. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Victor Ochoa Avila Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:14 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CMSDDR failing Hi Wayne, I've used PIPEDDR in 10GB MDISK and work fine, no problem. Download the new version of here http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/ It is a great tool of Bruce Hayden. Regards ATTE Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila BBVA America Mexico D.F 2011/7/11 Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com Sorry -I meant that 512*2097152 = 1073741824 .. which is the real block count when starting at 0 Exactly 1 gigabyte... Scott Rohling On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if CMSDDR has some kind of internal limit of 1G.. I notice that: 512*2097151=1073741824(512 byte blocks) 1024*1024*1024=1073741824 (1K cubed) Scott Rohling On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Smith, Wayne H Mr CTR DISA CDB12 wayne.smith@csd.disa.mil wrote: I'm having issues using CMSDDR. The output is copied below. Any thoughts? The device I'm CMSDDRing is an MDISK defined on an EDEV. The size of the MDISK is 17 gig. I *can* use CP DDR to copy the MDISK to another MDISK of equal size defined on the same EDEV. I ran CP DDR because the error message seemed to imply that there was an I/O error reading the input device(A497). CP DDR could read the entire MDISK so I believe the error message is misleading. A couple random pieces of information: - We are running z/VM 5.4; CMS Level 24, Service Level 002 - I've used CMSDDR to create CMS files from other smaller MDISKs defined on the same EDEV. - The MDISK on which I'm trying to create the new file is larger than the MDISK I'm trying to CMSDDR. - I've tried CMSDDR with a small and large (2 gig) virtual machine size. - The CMSDDR invocation which fails does create a file on the target MDISK. I believe it contains blocks 0-2097151. cmsddr dump a497 temp z z/VM DASD DUMP/RESTORE PROGRAM HCPDDR696I VOLID READ IS LXA497 NOT VOLSER DUMPING LXA497 DUMPING DATA 07/11/11 AT 20.42.35 GMT FROM LXA497 INPUT BLOCK EXTENTSOUTPUT BLOCK EXTENTS START STOP START STOP HCPDDR705E I/O ERROR A497 IRB 000311D0 0E00 SNS 8000 0004 CCW 63031820 4010 INPUT 02097152 OUTPUT 02097152 02097151 02097151 END OF DUMP BYTES IN 1073829304 BYTES OUT 0020546574 BLOCKS NOT COMPACTED ON TAPE - 00 END OF JOB Ready(4); T=0.80/1.42 16:42:54 -- Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila z/OS z/VM systems programmer Mexico, City.
Re: CMSDDR failing
This is what the 6.1 CMS Admin and Planning says: A single CMS file can contain up to approximately (231-1)-132,000 disk blocks of data, grouped into as many as 231-1 logical records, all of which must be on the same minidisk 2**31 = 2147483648So: (2147483648-1) - 132,000 = 2,147,351,647 With 512 byte blocks - this should be around 1TB ... though it depends on the logical record length.. Glad you found a workaround.. just trying to understand limits. Seems CMSDDR is likely the one with limits. Scott Rohling On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Smith, Wayne H Mr CTR DISA CDB12 wayne.smith@csd.disa.mil wrote: I believe I've found a solution to my problem. I've defined 4 small MDISK overlays on the 17G MDISK; each section can be CMSDDRed. I assume I was running into some type of CMS file size restriction. I don't really need to know what the restriction is/was. I can accomplish my task by splitting up the MDISK. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Victor Ochoa Avila Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:14 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CMSDDR failing Hi Wayne, I've used PIPEDDR in 10GB MDISK and work fine, no problem. Download the new version of here http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/ It is a great tool of Bruce Hayden. Regards ATTE Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila BBVA America Mexico D.F 2011/7/11 Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com Sorry -I meant that 512*2097152 = 1073741824 .. which is the real block count when starting at 0 Exactly 1 gigabyte... Scott Rohling On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if CMSDDR has some kind of internal limit of 1G.. I notice that: 512*2097151=1073741824(512 byte blocks) 1024*1024*1024=1073741824 (1K cubed) Scott Rohling On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Smith, Wayne H Mr CTR DISA CDB12 wayne.smith@csd.disa.mil wrote: I'm having issues using CMSDDR. The output is copied below. Any thoughts? The device I'm CMSDDRing is an MDISK defined on an EDEV. The size of the MDISK is 17 gig. I *can* use CP DDR to copy the MDISK to another MDISK of equal size defined on the same EDEV. I ran CP DDR because the error message seemed to imply that there was an I/O error reading the input device(A497). CP DDR could read the entire MDISK so I believe the error message is misleading. A couple random pieces of information: - We are running z/VM 5.4; CMS Level 24, Service Level 002 - I've used CMSDDR to create CMS files from other smaller MDISKs defined on the same EDEV. - The MDISK on which I'm trying to create the new file is larger than the MDISK I'm trying to CMSDDR. - I've tried CMSDDR with a small and large (2 gig) virtual machine size. - The CMSDDR invocation which fails does create a file on the target MDISK. I believe it contains blocks 0-2097151. cmsddr dump a497 temp z z/VM DASD DUMP/RESTORE PROGRAM HCPDDR696I VOLID READ IS LXA497 NOT VOLSER DUMPING LXA497 DUMPING DATA 07/11/11 AT 20.42.35 GMT FROM LXA497 INPUT BLOCK EXTENTSOUTPUT BLOCK EXTENTS START STOP START STOP HCPDDR705E I/O ERROR A497 IRB 000311D0 0E00 SNS 8000 0004 CCW 63031820 4010 INPUT 02097152 OUTPUT 02097152 02097151 02097151 END OF DUMP BYTES IN 1073829304 BYTES OUT 0020546574 BLOCKS NOT COMPACTED ON TAPE - 00 END OF JOB Ready(4); T=0.80/1.42 16:42:54 -- Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila z/OS z/VM systems programmer Mexico, City.
Re: CMSDDR failing
I'd definitely give PIPEDDR a try! Splitting up a minidisk sounds like
extra steps you don't need to go through... If this is just a one time
thing - I guess do whatever works. PIPEDDR is a lot more flexible though..
Scott Rohling
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Victor Ochoa Avila vhoa...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Wayne, I've used PIPEDDR in 10GB MDISK and work fine, no problem.
Download the new version of here
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/
It is a great tool of Bruce Hayden.
Regards
ATTE
Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila
BBVA America
Mexico D.F
2011/7/11 Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
Sorry -I meant that 512*2097152 = 1073741824 .. which is
the real block count when starting at 0
Exactly 1 gigabyte...
Scott Rohling
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Scott Rohling
scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm wondering if CMSDDR has some kind of internal limit of 1G.. I notice
that:
512*2097151=1073741824(512 byte blocks)
1024*1024*1024=1073741824 (1K cubed)
Scott Rohling
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Smith, Wayne H Mr CTR DISA CDB12
wayne.smith@csd.disa.mil wrote:
**
I’m having issues using CMSDDR. The output is copied below. Any
thoughts?
The device I’m CMSDDRing is an MDISK defined on an EDEV. The size of
the MDISK is 17 gig.
I **can** use CP DDR to copy the MDISK to another MDISK of equal size
defined on the same EDEV. I ran CP DDR because the error message
seemed to imply that there was an I/O error reading the input device(A497).
CP DDR could read the entire MDISK so I believe the error message is
misleading.
A couple random pieces of information:
- We are running z/VM 5.4; CMS Level 24, Service Level 002
- I’ve used CMSDDR to create CMS files from other smaller MDISKs
defined on the same EDEV.
- The MDISK on which I’m trying to create the new file is larger
than the MDISK I’m trying to CMSDDR.
- I’ve tried CMSDDR with a small and large (2 gig) virtual machine
size.
- The CMSDDR invocation which fails does create a file on the
target MDISK. I believe it contains blocks 0-2097151.
cmsddr dump a497 temp z
z/VM DASD DUMP/RESTORE PROGRAM
HCPDDR696I VOLID READ IS LXA497 NOT VOLSER
DUMPING LXA497
DUMPING DATA 07/11/11 AT 20.42.35 GMT FROM LXA497
INPUT BLOCK EXTENTSOUTPUT BLOCK EXTENTS
START STOP STARTSTOP
HCPDDR705E I/O ERROR A497 IRB 000311D0 0E00
SNS 8000 0004
CCW 63031820 4010
INPUT 02097152 OUTPUT 02097152
0209715102097151
END OF DUMP
BYTES IN 1073829304 BYTES OUT 0020546574
BLOCKS NOT COMPACTED ON TAPE - 00
END OF JOB
Ready(4); T=0.80/1.42 16:42:54
--
Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila
z/OS z/VM systems programmer
Mexico, City.
page pack question
I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
Re: page pack question
Hi, Anne. Yes, you can use the old 5.4 page packs when you IPL 6.1 on first level. Just make usre you add them to 6.1's SYSTEM CONFIG file as cpowned. DJ On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don’t have enough mod 3’s to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can’t use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Dave Jones V/Soft Software www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544
Re: page pack question
As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don’t have enough mod 3’s to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can’t use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
On Tuesday, 07/12/2011 at 10:38 EDT, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don?t have enough mod 3?s to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can?t use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) You can use the same paging and T-disk volumes. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: page pack question
Yea, the only thing is that once I add them as CPOWNED on my 6.1 system (which I'd have to do while up on level 2), I would not be able to ipl it second level if I had to go back to 5.4. Then what would I do? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
CPUID Anomaly
Hi, This past weekend after an IPL of our z10 to apply RSU 5409 and a VTAM ptf I discovered that the reported CPUID in zVM had changed: CPUID prior to this weedend was : FF01C82620988000 CPUID after IPL was : FF00C82620988000 The difference in the above id¹s is 1C8262 to 0C8262. Also, made a change to MODE from s/390 to ZVM. No IOCDS changes were made. After I discovered the changed CPUID I backed everything out and there was no change in the CPUID. I did finally put everything back and just dealt with the new CPUID. Also found out that MCL¹s had been applied to the HMC but not to the SE¹s. Has anybody seen this behavior? Thanks in advance Jim Poirier Senior zVM/zVSE Systems Programmer, Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-1535Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system.
Re: page pack question
Can't you go ahead and put them in your CP OWNED list and as long as they are not attached to the 2nd level id, you will get an error that they can't be found but the system will still come up as long as you still have at least one pack that you are using at 2nd now. Bob Bates robert.ba...@wellsfargo.com This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Crabtree, Anne D Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:54 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: CPUID Anomaly
Off the top of my head isn't that the LPAR identifier? - 00 vs 01 - On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:51 AM, James Poirier james.poir...@doit.nh.govwrote: Hi, This past weekend after an IPL of our z10 to apply RSU 5409 and a VTAM ptf I discovered that the reported CPUID in zVM had changed: CPUID prior to this weedend was : FF01C82620988000 CPUID after IPL was : FF00C82620988000 The difference in the above id’s is 1C8262 to 0C8262. Also, made a change to MODE from s/390 to ZVM. No IOCDS changes were made. After I discovered the changed CPUID I backed everything out and there was no change in the CPUID. I did finally put everything back and just dealt with the new CPUID. Also found out that MCL’s had been applied to the HMC but not to the SE’s. Has anybody seen this behavior? Thanks in advance Jim Poirier Senior zVM/zVSE Systems Programmer, Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-1535Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system.
Re: page pack question
You need to beable to access your 6.1 CF! disk from youe 1st level 5.4 machine to change the SYSTEM CONFIG file back to what you need for the 2nd level IPL... At least that is what I would do. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govwrote: Yea, the only thing is that once I add them as CPOWNED on my 6.1 system (which I'd have to do while up on level 2), I would not be able to ipl it second level if I had to go back to 5.4. Then what would I do? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
That's reasonable. As long as the 5.4 system isn't using them at the same time. That would be 'bad'. On 07/12/2011 09:53 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: CPUID Anomaly
It appears that it probably is but we made no changes to affect the LPAR id, also the HMC reports that the CPUID is 1C8262 and that is what we used to get before this last IPL. On 7/12/11 11:02 AM, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote: Off the top of my head isn't that the LPAR identifier? - 00 vs 01 - On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:51 AM, James Poirier james.poir...@doit.nh.gov wrote: Hi, This past weekend after an IPL of our z10 to apply RSU 5409 and a VTAM ptf I discovered that the reported CPUID in zVM had changed: CPUID prior to this weedend was : FF01C82620988000 CPUID after IPL was : FF00C82620988000 The difference in the above id¹s is 1C8262 to 0C8262. Also, made a change to MODE from s/390 to ZVM. No IOCDS changes were made. After I discovered the changed CPUID I backed everything out and there was no change in the CPUID. I did finally put everything back and just dealt with the new CPUID. Also found out that MCL¹s had been applied to the HMC but not to the SE¹s. Has anybody seen this behavior? Thanks in advance Jim Poirier Senior zVM/zVSE Systems Programmer, Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-1535 tel:603-271-1535 Fax 603.271.1516 tel:603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system. Jim Poirier Senior zVM/zVSE Systems Programmer, Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-1535Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system.
Re: page pack question
Hi, Anne. If your second level system is only to maintenance (5.4 or 6.1, no matter) , you don't need a lot of page packs. Define a virtual machine with 256G and one mdisk (not full pack) to PAGE, formated with the same volser as the fullpack. When IPLed on first level, it can take the full packs needed. Caution: this tip it's not valid for SPOOL, only to PAGE volumes. SPOOL needs a more elaborated solution. Regards, __ Clovis From: Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 12/07/2011 12:04 Subject: Re: page pack question Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu You need to beable to access your 6.1 CF! disk from youe 1st level 5.4 machine to change the SYSTEM CONFIG file back to what you need for the 2nd level IPL... At least that is what I would do. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: Yea, the only thing is that once I add them as CPOWNED on my 6.1 system (which I'd have to do while up on level 2), I would not be able to ipl it second level if I had to go back to 5.4. Then what would I do? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: CPUID Anomaly
On Tuesday, 07/12/2011 at 10:56 EDT, James Poirier james.poir...@doit.nh.gov wrote: This past weekend after an IPL of our z10 to apply RSU 5409 and a VTAM ptf I discovered that the reported CPUID in zVM had changed: CPUID prior to this weedend was : FF01C82620988000 CPUID after IPL was : FF00C82620988000 The difference in the above id?s is 1C8262 to 0C8262. Also, made a change to MODE from s/390 to ZVM. No IOCDS changes were made. After I discovered the changed CPUID I backed everything out and there was no change in the CPUID. I did finally put everything back and just dealt with the new CPUID. Also found out that MCL?s had been applied to the HMC but not to the SE?s. Has anybody seen this behavior? Looks like you changed LPARs. When the Format bit (48) is 1 (as yours is), word 0 of the virtual CPU ID is of the form FFpp, where pp is the UPID (user partition id #), and n is a digit derived from the CPU id. See the STORE CPU ID instruction in the z/Architecture book. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: CPUID Anomaly
On Tuesday, 07/12/2011 at 11:10 EDT, James Poirier james.poir...@doit.nh.gov wrote: It appears that it probably is but we made no changes to affect the LPAR id, also the HMC reports that the CPUID is 1C8262 and that is what we used to get before this last IPL. Then you need to contact the Support Center. CP issues a STIDP as each processor starts. When you log on, a copy of the stored CPU id is copied into your VMDBK, with the HOB set to FF. This is your default CPU ID. It is overridden by the CPU statement in your directory entry or the SET CPUID command. If the HMC reports the LPAR UPID as 01, but the STIDP instruction stored 00, that's not good. Make sure you are looking at the image profile (General), not the CPC Details. (There are more digits in the CPU serial # than are contained in the CPU ID.) Perhaps changing the LPAR mode caused a change in the UPID? Though I don't know why it would Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: CPUID Anomaly
James, FF01C82620988000 the 01 tells me that your LPAR configuration has this as LPAR 1 FF00C82620988000 the 00 tells me that after you changed the LPAR MODE it was not provided a number q cpu CPUID = FF00B0AF20948000 Munson at zVM2a; T=0.01/0.01 11:08:04 q cpu CPUID = FF06B0AF20948000 Munson at zVM2; T=0.01/0.01 11:13:32 when we carved out zVM2A we did not number it Bill Munson Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer Brown Brothers Harriman CO. 525 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 201-418-7588 VM Workshop http://www.VMWorkshop.org/ President - MVMUA http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ LVM Program Officer - SHARE http://www.linkedin.com/in/BillMunson From: James Poirier james.poir...@doit.nh.gov To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 07/12/2011 10:56 AM Subject:CPUID Anomaly Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Hi, This past weekend after an IPL of our z10 to apply RSU 5409 and a VTAM ptf I discovered that the reported CPUID in zVM had changed: CPUID prior to this weedend was : FF01C82620988000 CPUID after IPL was : FF00C82620988000 The difference in the above id?s is 1C8262 to 0C8262. Also, made a change to MODE from s/390 to ZVM. No IOCDS changes were made. After I discovered the changed CPUID I backed everything out and there was no change in the CPUID. I did finally put everything back and just dealt with the new CPUID. Also found out that MCL?s had been applied to the HMC but not to the SE?s. Has anybody seen this behavior? Thanks in advance Jim Poirier Senior zVM/zVSE Systems Programmer, Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-1535Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system. *** IMPORTANT NOTE*-- The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus.
Re: page pack question
Ok, I think I'll go that route... and as someone else suggested, I can always access my 6.1 system config from my 5.4 system if I needed to change it... Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question That's reasonable. As long as the 5.4 system isn't using them at the same time. That would be 'bad'. On 07/12/2011 09:53 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
SMTP relay
We just got dinged for apparently having our SMTP server configured for mail forwarding. We only use it to send email from Performance Monitor to our email ids. I've looked at the manual and don't see any way to do this. Any suggestions? Thanks Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474
Re: SMTP relay
Duh, somehow I missed FORWARDMAIL. I'll try this. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 -Original Message- From: Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:10 PM To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System' Subject: SMTP relay We just got dinged for apparently having our SMTP server configured for mail forwarding. We only use it to send email from Performance Monitor to our email ids. I've looked at the manual and don't see any way to do this. Any suggestions? Thanks Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474
Re: page pack question
As CP can page in SPOOL space, your secondlevel system may even start without any page pack attached to it. It just depends on how much (and hwo large) guests you'd start in the secondlevel test system. 2011/7/12 Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov Ok, I think I'll go that route... and as someone else suggested, I can always access my 6.1 system config from my 5.4 system if I needed to change it... Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question That's reasonable. As long as the 5.4 system isn't using them at the same time. That would be 'bad'. On 07/12/2011 09:53 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Default PROFILE EXEC for DISKACNT?
Hum. I'd never noticed that. THANKS. -- db DISKACNT profile exec is the same for EREP and OPERSYMP. These 3 machines uses the same copy, by default ... Regards, __ Clovis
