Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-15 Thread Eric Spencer
The IBM Softcopy Librarian does a nice job of downloading bookshelves
to a directory on my hard drive and doing the compares to tell me when
there is an updated book or bookshelf... almost all shelves are
available in .boo or .pdf

I tend to download the PDF's - then when viewing my c:\books directory
in windows explorer if you don't see the human readable title just
right click on the Name column and select Title this will add a
column with the human readable title extracted from the windows
extended file properties... no need to rename or be inconsistent. 

OTOH - if you like the .boo files they do not have the title metadata
supplied, maybe IBM could fix that. But if your using .boo files your
probably also using the softcopy reader/Shelf Organizer which will also
show you the real title. 

Eric Spencer 
Sr.Software Developer
p: 512.241.7313 | m: 512.470.9807 | f: 512.343.9538
espen...@neonsoft.com 

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 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]
On
 Behalf Of Brian Nielsen
 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:11 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Replicating z/VM documentation
 
 I have a couple quick and dirty KEDIT macros that I run against the
HTML
 index page to build COPY commands that will copy the cryptic file name
 from the CD to another drive and name it as the manual number and
title
 (taking care of special characters in the process).
 
 Brian Nielsen
 
 
 On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:21:52 -0600, Scott Rohling
 scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As I am often in locations where internet access is either not
possible
 or
 not allowed, I really like to keep the official z/VM documentation on
my
 laptop.   I know there are web pages with all the PDF files, etc..
But
 I
 have issues using them:
 
 -  The PDF files are named with the manual number, rather than a
human
 readable title.   I usually end up renaming them when I download (and
am
 often inconsistent).
 -  I'm never sure I have the 'latest and greatest'
 -  The process is entirely manual
 
 So I'm wondering what other people do to keep local copies..   It
would
 be
 nifty to have something that checked the web pages for newer copies
of
 the
 pdf files and did 'wget' or something on them - and was smart enough
to
 suck
 the title out of the web page as well and use it to name the file
 locally.
 But - maybe there are other solutions I'm not aware of?
 
 Anybody have a nice way to deal with 'replicating' the z/VM
 documentation?
 (if your a Notes user, you'll understand the 2nd verb)
 
 p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get
the
 whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it
handles
 checking for changes?
 
 Scott
 


Re: Replicating z/VM documentation (Offensive Word Found In Message)

2009-07-15 Thread Mark Post
 On 7/13/2009 at 10:21 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: 
-snip-
 It would be
 nifty to have something that checked the web pages for newer copies of the
 pdf files and did 'wget' or something on them - and was smart enough to suck
 the title out of the web page as well and use it to name the file locally.

-snip-
 p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get the
 whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it handles
 checking for changes?

If you use the -N switch for wget, it will only download newer versions, or 
versions with a different file size.  Not all web servers are helpful about 
providing the correct file size.  For a starter script, try this:
for file in *
  do base=$(echo $file | sed -e 's/\(sg..\).*$/\1/' -e 
's/\(redp\).*$/\1/')
  echo $file $base
  wget -O - http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/$base.html 21 | grep -i 
^'title' | sed -e 's/titleIBM Redbooks . //' -e 's/\/title//' | tr '/' 
'-' | tr -s  
  echo 
done

Run it in a directory that has a bunch of Redbooks in it., and pipe the output 
to a file.  I did find one Redbook that lots of others reference, and it still 
exists, but the abstract no longer exists for some reason: SG24-6344.


Mark Post


Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-15 Thread Scott Rohling
I really want a Linux-capable solution (sorry -- get cygwin if you're stuck
with windows - or better - run Virtualbox and a Linux image - free free free
;-)

I'm thinking I can get what I want by using a script to:

- do a wget on the z/VM PDF files page
- Parse between the h4/h4
- Parse between first table/table after h4's
- Parse the tr statements to yank out the pdf URL and the human readable
title
- Do wget with -N option for the pdf files (maybe pass the script the
group(s) you want and the dir to store it in?)
- Create a  vmpdf.html file that looks like the z/VM PDF page - but contains
local links to the pdf files

I'm about 100 times better at rexx than at bash - so maybe I'll attempt this
as a rexx script and leave it to someone else to 'bash it'.   Of course,
it's all dependent on the basic layout of the PDF web page staying
consistent - so maybe an exercise in futility.. won't be the first time.

Scott

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Scott Rohlingscott.rohl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get the
  whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it handles
  checking for changes?

 The first speed-up is to block all the surfing statistics that IBM has
 added to the various pages. I measured it to be more than 50% of the
 time it takes to load the page (whether I sit in Europe or in the US,
 no excuses there).  I modified the HTML page that lists all the books
 so that it points to the local copies of the PDFs for the ones that I
 have here handy. In fact, I even have the copy of the monitor record
 layout local on my thinkpad, but that may not be something everyone
 else needs that often ;-)

 And I'll do it again with next release (if any).

 Rob



Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-14 Thread Sebastian Welton
What would be really nice is to be able to download the actual Infocenter
 as
you can do with some other products such as WebSphere. You need to downlo
ad
the IEHS (IBM Eclipse Help System) and a couple of plugins and then the
Infocenter for the product. I do this on both Windows and Linux and it sa
ves
me a lot of time. See:
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/webservers/appserv/was/library/v70/ndss/in
dex.html

Seb.


Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Sebastian Weltonmf...@welton.de wrote:

 What would be really nice is to be able to download the actual Infocenter as
 you can do with some other products such as WebSphere. You need to download
 the IEHS (IBM Eclipse Help System) and a couple of plugins and then the
 Infocenter for the product. I do this on both Windows and Linux and it saves
 me a lot of time. See:

I can understand the value of some cross-linked structure like
wikipedia or infocenter when the information you want is not
necessarily structured in a linear manner. But when I am reading the
installation instructions for a product on such an infocenter thing,
it really feels like someone is holding the book for me and I need to
tell them when to turn pages. It's amazing how much read ahead one
does when reading.

-Rob


Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-14 Thread Brian Nielsen
I have a couple quick and dirty KEDIT macros that I run against the HTML 

index page to build COPY commands that will copy the cryptic file name 

from the CD to another drive and name it as the manual number and title 

(taking care of special characters in the process).

Brian Nielsen


On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:21:52 -0600, Scott Rohling 
scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote:

As I am often in locations where internet access is either not possible 
or
not allowed, I really like to keep the official z/VM documentation on my

laptop.   I know there are web pages with all the PDF files, etc..   But
 I
have issues using them:

-  The PDF files are named with the manual number, rather than a human
readable title.   I usually end up renaming them when I download (and am

often inconsistent).
-  I'm never sure I have the 'latest and greatest'
-  The process is entirely manual

So I'm wondering what other people do to keep local copies..   It would 
be
nifty to have something that checked the web pages for newer copies of t
he
pdf files and did 'wget' or something on them - and was smart enough to 

suck
the title out of the web page as well and use it to name the file locall
y.
But - maybe there are other solutions I'm not aware of?

Anybody have a nice way to deal with 'replicating' the z/VM documentatio
n?
(if your a Notes user, you'll understand the 2nd verb)

p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get th
e
whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it handles
checking for changes?

Scott



Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread Thomas Kern
As I need a regular IBM Manual, I read it from the CD/DVD the first time
and while I have it open, I use the File/SaveAs function to put a copy
in my own manuals folder with a name I can recognize. Then when I am
finished with it, I email a copy of that newnamed pdf to my home address
to populate my home copy of manuals.

Some levels of Windows let you have a Title column in the file list
window and ALL IBM manuals have a proper title tag in their pdf copy. I
just haven't played with it enough to have it on ONLY for the
directories I want.

/Tom Kern

Scott Rohling wrote:
 As I am often in locations where internet access is either not possible
 or not allowed, I really like to keep the official z/VM documentation on
 my laptop.   I know there are web pages with all the PDF files, etc..  
 But I have issues using them:
 
 -  The PDF files are named with the manual number, rather than a human
 readable title.   I usually end up renaming them when I download (and am
 often inconsistent).
 -  I'm never sure I have the 'latest and greatest'
 -  The process is entirely manual
 
 So I'm wondering what other people do to keep local copies..   It would
 be nifty to have something that checked the web pages for newer copies
 of the pdf files and did 'wget' or something on them - and was smart
 enough to suck the title out of the web page as well and use it to name
 the file locally.   But - maybe there are other solutions I'm not aware of?
 
 Anybody have a nice way to deal with 'replicating' the z/VM
 documentation? (if your a Notes user, you'll understand the 2nd verb)
 
 p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get
 the whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it
 handles checking for changes? 
 
 Scott


Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I find it just as frustrating when I look at the manuals via the 
internet and the pdf (my preference over html) has a title of HCSK5B30 
or something as useful as that. 


Jim

Scott Rohling wrote:

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As I am often in locations where internet access is either not possible or
not allowed, I really like to keep the official z/VM documentation on my
laptop.   I know there are web pages with all the PDF files, etc..   But I
have issues using them:

-  The PDF files are named with the manual number, rather than a human
readable title.   I usually end up renaming them when I download (and am
often inconsistent).
-  I'm never sure I have the 'latest and greatest'
-  The process is entirely manual

So I'm wondering what other people do to keep local copies..   It would be
nifty to have something that checked the web pages for newer copies of the
pdf files and did 'wget' or something on them - and was smart enough to suck
the title out of the web page as well and use it to name the file locally.
But - maybe there are other solutions I'm not aware of?

Anybody have a nice way to deal with 'replicating' the z/VM documentation?
(if your a Notes user, you'll understand the 2nd verb)

p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get the
whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it handles
checking for changes?

Scott

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--
Jim Bohnsack
Cornell University
(972) 596-6377 home/office
(972) 342-5823 cell
jab...@cornell.edu


Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread Michael Forte
Hello Scott,

If your laptop is running Windows, you could use Softcopy Librarian which 
queries a master list of z/VM publications (those that are found on the CD 
or DVD publication deliverables) and compares the list to your local 
repository. It can distinguish between publications that have been updated 
and those that have not and will allow you to download any number of 
publications (one to all) for a given shelf (library) or product. As you 
might have guessed, it can also download shelf and index files (.bks, 
.bki, and .xks) for use on the host or with Softcopy Reader for Windows or 
Linux.

Take a look at the following site for Softcopy Librarian download 
information: 
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?doc=4000640org=SWrs=4

Thanks!
Michael J. Forte
z/OS Storage ID and POK Softcopy Support
Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA
IBM Poughkeepsie, New York
mjfo...@us.ibm.com

Office: 845-435-9062, T/L: 295-9062
Fax: 845-432-9405

Building 052-1, B09
2455 South Road, Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

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From:
Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
07/13/2009 10:23 AM
Subject:
Replicating z/VM documentation
Sent by:
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



As I am often in locations where internet access is either not possible or 
not allowed, I really like to keep the official z/VM documentation on my 
laptop.   I know there are web pages with all the PDF files, etc..   But I 
have issues using them:

-  The PDF files are named with the manual number, rather than a human 
readable title.   I usually end up renaming them when I download (and am 
often inconsistent).
-  I'm never sure I have the 'latest and greatest'
-  The process is entirely manual

So I'm wondering what other people do to keep local copies..   It would be 
nifty to have something that checked the web pages for newer copies of the 
pdf files and did 'wget' or something on them - and was smart enough to 
suck the title out of the web page as well and use it to name the file 
locally.   But - maybe there are other solutions I'm not aware of?

Anybody have a nice way to deal with 'replicating' the z/VM documentation? 
(if your a Notes user, you'll understand the 2nd verb)

p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get the 
whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it handles 
checking for changes?  

Scott


Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread Reuscher, Robert A [IT]
I download all the manuals when we go to a new release, and create a 
shortcut/alias for each one with it's real title (or as close as I can get with 
some special characters). This way I have a name that means something to me, 
but also the links work between the manuals.

Robert Reuscher
Network Software Development/Support
(214) 477-7091

-Original Message-
From: Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:45 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Replicating z/VM documentation


I find it just as frustrating when I look at the manuals via the
internet and the pdf (my preference over html) has a title of HCSK5B30
or something as useful as that.

Jim

Scott Rohling wrote:
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

 As I am often in locations where internet access is either not possible or
 not allowed, I really like to keep the official z/VM documentation on my
 laptop.   I know there are web pages with all the PDF files, etc..   But I
 have issues using them:

 -  The PDF files are named with the manual number, rather than a human
 readable title.   I usually end up renaming them when I download (and am
 often inconsistent).
 -  I'm never sure I have the 'latest and greatest'
 -  The process is entirely manual

 So I'm wondering what other people do to keep local copies..   It would be
 nifty to have something that checked the web pages for newer copies of the
 pdf files and did 'wget' or something on them - and was smart enough to suck
 the title out of the web page as well and use it to name the file locally.
 But - maybe there are other solutions I'm not aware of?

 Anybody have a nice way to deal with 'replicating' the z/VM documentation?
 (if your a Notes user, you'll understand the 2nd verb)

 p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get the
 whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it handles
 checking for changes?

 Scott

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(972) 342-5823 cell
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Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern
 Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:43 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Replicating z/VM documentation
 
 As I need a regular IBM Manual, I read it from the CD/DVD the 
 first time
 and while I have it open, I use the File/SaveAs function to put a copy
 in my own manuals folder with a name I can recognize. Then when I am
 finished with it, I email a copy of that newnamed pdf to my 
 home address
 to populate my home copy of manuals.
 
 Some levels of Windows let you have a Title column in the file list
 window and ALL IBM manuals have a proper title tag in their 
 pdf copy. I
 just haven't played with it enough to have it on ONLY for the
 directories I want.
 
 /Tom Kern

I am a z/OS'er who hangs around here. I have a number of PDF manuals which I 
copied from the MVS CDs onto my Amazon KindleDX (nice, but pricey). At least on 
the MVS CDs, there are a number of XKS files. These files are book shelf type 
files which contain the file name of the PDF and the associated manual number 
and title. I wrote a small Perl script on Linux which parses the XKS files and 
does an ln command to create a file name like: manual.numbetitle.PDF . An 
example file name would be:

SC26-7396-10.zOS_V1R10_DFSMS_Installation_Exits.PDF

Since Windows cannot have two names for one file, this script would need to 
be massaged to do a rename, I guess.

I was working on a way to slurp down the current PDF files from IBM, but got to 
feeling bad about how much bandwidth I would consume, so I never tried.

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Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/13/2009 at 11:00 EDT, McKown, John 
jmck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
 Since Windows cannot have two names for one file, this script would 
need to 
 be massaged to do a rename, I guess.

Actually you can do the same thing with Windows hardlinks.  These are 
symbolic links, not shortcuts, created by the fsutil command:
c: cd My Documents\Pubs\pdfs
c: fsutil hardlink create ..\VM 5.4\54 License Info Doc.pdf 
c2461069.pdf

Shortcuts won't work unless the application is specifically coded to 
understand .lnk files (gag).  I wish Create shortcut would create 
hardlinks instead.  Is there an app for that?

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread Scott Rohling
Fortunately, I run Linux as my workstation ;-)I do run Windows under
VirtualBox, but only for personal use (iTunes for my iPhone, and Quicken).
So maybe I can use the Librarian to download/replicate and the Reader on
Linux..   but I really prefer PDF files as the format is ubiquitous and I
can easily share them.

Thanks for the suggestion and pointer!

Scott

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Michael Forte mjfo...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 Hello Scott,

 If your laptop is running Windows, you could use Softcopy Librarian which
 queries a master list of z/VM publications (those that are found on the CD
 or DVD publication deliverables) and compares the list to your local
 repository. It can distinguish between publications that have been updated
 and those that have not and will allow you to download any number of
 publications (one to all) for a given shelf (library) or product. As you
 might have guessed, it can also download shelf and index files (.bks, .bki,
 and .xks) for use on the host or with Softcopy Reader for Windows or Linux.

 Take a look at the following site for Softcopy Librarian download
 information:
 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?doc=4000640org=SWrs=4

 Thanks!
 *Michael J. Forte*
 z/OS Storage ID and POK Softcopy Support
 Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA
 IBM Poughkeepsie, New York*
 **mjfo...@us.ibm.com* mjfo...@us.ibm.com

 Office: 845-435-9062, T/L: 295-9062
 Fax: 845-432-9405

 Building 052-1, B09
 2455 South Road, Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

 Often those who work the hardest are the luckiest...


  From: Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Date: 07/13/2009 10:23 AM Subject: Replicating z/VM documentation Sent by: The
 IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 --



 As I am often in locations where internet access is either not possible or
 not allowed, I really like to keep the official z/VM documentation on my
 laptop.   I know there are web pages with all the PDF files, etc..   But I
 have issues using them:

 -  The PDF files are named with the manual number, rather than a human
 readable title.   I usually end up renaming them when I download (and am
 often inconsistent).
 -  I'm never sure I have the 'latest and greatest'
 -  The process is entirely manual

 So I'm wondering what other people do to keep local copies..   It would be
 nifty to have something that checked the web pages for newer copies of the
 pdf files and did 'wget' or something on them - and was smart enough to suck
 the title out of the web page as well and use it to name the file locally.
 But - maybe there are other solutions I'm not aware of?

 Anybody have a nice way to deal with 'replicating' the z/VM documentation?
 (if your a Notes user, you'll understand the 2nd verb)

 p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get the
 whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it handles
 checking for changes?

 Scott



Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread Edward M Martin
Hello Rob,

Are you using a download or is there something specific that you are monitoring?

Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-363-5050
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Rob van der Heij
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:35 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Scott Rohlingscott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote:

 p.s.  Hmmm..  I bet I can use wget with the right incantation and get the
 whole website to my laptop along with PDFs..   but not sure it handles
 checking for changes?

The first speed-up is to block all the surfing statistics that IBM has
added to the various pages. I measured it to be more than 50% of the
time it takes to load the page (whether I sit in Europe or in the US,
no excuses there).  I modified the HTML page that lists all the books
so that it points to the local copies of the PDFs for the ones that I
have here handy. In fact, I even have the copy of the monitor record
layout local on my thinkpad, but that may not be something everyone
else needs that often ;-)

And I'll do it again with next release (if any).

Rob


Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread Karl Huf
I have installed the z/VM V5R4 Information Center DVD onto my (Windows) 
laptop.  There's a collection of manuals and redbooks that are copied onto 
the HD and a (java) app that provides a menu'd interface with search 
capabilities (including the .pdf's).  I don't know if this was something 
that was produced for releases earlier than 5.4.  The reference # is 
SK5T-7098-00. 

My usual method, though, has been to download the manuals I wanted and do 
the Save As routine, cutting and pasting the document title after the 
SCnn original file name.  Of course since certain special chars like 
/ and : aren't accepted in file names one does need to do a bit of 
editing frequently.  Still, it's better than a directory full of 
indecipherable and non-descriptive filenames.


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Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread Steve Marak
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Scott Rohling wrote:

 -  The PDF files are named with the manual number, rather than a human
 readable title.   I usually end up renaming them when I download (and am
 often inconsistent).
 -  I'm never sure I have the 'latest and greatest'
 -  The process is entirely manual
 
 So I'm wondering what other people do to keep local copies..   

I do the same thing you do, and it's a huge pain. 

Some of my co-workers use the Library Reader on their Windows laptops, but 
I find that even worse than having to rename all the PDFs. I'm sure that 
says something about the Library Reader, or me, or both, but that's just 
what I want: the PDF format, with a usable name, available offline on my 
laptop. Doesn't seem like it should be as much effort as it is.

Steve

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Re: Replicating z/VM documentation

2009-07-13 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Steve Marak wrote:

 On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Scott Rohling wrote:
 
 
 Some of my co-workers use the Library Reader on their Windows laptops, but 
 I find that even worse than having to rename all the PDFs. I'm sure that 
 says something about the Library Reader, or me, or both, but that's just 
 what I want: the PDF format, with a usable name, available offline on my 
 laptop. Doesn't seem like it should be as much effort as it is.
 
 Steve

No worries (as our Aussie friends say). Softcopy Librarian downloads the 
PDF files with the poor names. But it also downloads the XKS files. The 
XKS files have the title and manual number in it. Using the fsutil command 
that Alan previously mentioned (it's at work, I'm at home). My Perl script 
for Linux follows ( 46 lines) 

#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use Encode qw(from_to);
my ($file,$line,$name,$title,$docid,$shelftitle);
{
local $/;
$file=; #slurp the entire file
}
$_=$file; #just easier, ya know?
from_to($_,utf16-be,iso-8859-1); #convert encoding
tr/\n//d; #remove line-end character.
($shelftitle)=m/SHELFHEADER[^]*.*?TITLE([^]*)\/TITLE.*?\/SHELFHEADER/;
$shelftitle=  unless defined $shelftitle;
$shelftitle=~s/ PDF Extended Shelf//;
$shelftitle=~s/apos;/'/g;
$shelftitle=~s/quot;//g;
$shelftitle=~s/lt;//g;
$shelftitle=~s/gt;//g;
$shelftitle=~s/amp;//g;
s/DOCUMENT /\nDOCUMENT /g;
s/\/DOCUMENT/\/DOCUMENT\n/g;
my @line=split /\n/;
foreach $line (@line) {
next unless $line=~m/^DOCUMENT /;
($name)=$line=~m/NAME=([^]+)/;
$name=~tr/ //d;
($title)=$line=~m/TITLE(.*?)\/TITLE/;
($docid)=$line=~m/ DOCID=([^]*)/;
$docid=~tr/ //d;
$name=lc $name;
$title=~s/apos;/'/g;
$title=~s/quot;//g;
$title=~s/lt;//g;
$title=~s/gt//g;
$title=~s/amp;//g;
$title=~tr/:,//d;
#The next 3 lines massage the title a bit.
$title=~s/z\/OS/zOS/g;
$title=~s/SMP\/E/SMPE/g;
$title=~s/[\/ ]/_/g;
#Escape the special characters
$title=~s/([\(\)'\\])/\\$1/g;
print $docid.$title\t$name\t$ARGV\t$shelftitle\n;
print STDERR ln \$name.pdf\ $docid.$title.pdf\n;
}

You run the above like:

for i in *.xks;do ./mksym.pl $i;done names.txt 2do_ln.sh

sh do_ln.sh

Modify as necessary for Windows. I don't know Windows any more, praise 
God!


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Trying to write with a pencil that is dull is pointless.

Maranatha!
John McKown