RE: [IceHorses] Scooter hates sidepull
I rode today in our gorgous 77 degree weather. I don't believe a word you're saying Prove it. :) Where's the pics?? Wanda Wanda doesn't believe that 77 degrees happens. She's never seen it. Remind me again, Wanda: which day does your summer happen? Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] what would YOU say
what gets me--- as a person with a food/weight problem, I have always tended to want to overfeed everything around me. And the thought of my animals standing hungry wondering where I am just KILLS me. This is what I've come to believe when I've seen rescue animalsthe owner has a bit of mental illness going on. AND if their animals are neglected...you can bet there are other portions of their lives that are neglected as well. Wha'ts your saying? They just ain't right... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] New Puppy
Do Newfoundlands have white? Yes, they can... Actually this little pup reminds me of Marty when he was a baby... He's now 120 lbs...and a doll. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Scooter hates sidepull
Wanda doesn't believe that 77 degrees happens. She's never seen it. Remind me again, Wanda: which day does your summer happen? Karen Thomas, NC Oh Karen we have beautiful summers up here. Good riding weather starts in early spring (no bugs)stays all through summer (except for the days that are in the 90's, but then the evenings are wonderful) (hardly any bugs)and then the glorious fall comes along. Yes, our winters are coldbut the rest of the year makes up for it. There are hardier riders around than I am. One lady in our driving club has a limit of -18 with no wind. If it goes below that, she doesn't ride. Now that's bravery... I must admit I DO have cabin fever right now, so pics of anything green and warm are a welcome sight. Wanda
[IceHorses] Horse blankets
Hi all: I'm wading through some tedious work this morning and so skipped off to Ebay for a few minutes. There are some nice horse blankets on there for a decent price right now. Just search '72 wool blanket' and you'll see a couple come up. I have one coming that's just like the brown one...I haven't received it yet thoughbut it looked good in the pics. It will look nice on my Gusti. Thanks for the pic of the daffodils Karenyes, spring is on the way somewhere. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Scooter hates sidepull
I rode today in our gorgous 77 degree weather. I don't believe a word you're saying Prove it. :) Where's the pics?? I will get back to you. I am going out today. But I think it will only be 76. Dang!!! LOL Lorraine You can laugh at me in the summer when it is 120.
[IceHorses] my new training tool
Hey you GUYS! Last nite at wynn Dixie I bought a Hula HOOP!! Gosh can you just SEE the training ops??? I bought the little kid size one for use as a neck ring, etc., but they have one for adults I think I could maybe get around Tivar or Nasi's waist if I got them to step into it! Then I could add the star shaped sunshades... it has mylar fringe and glitter. It comes in blue, pink and purple. They have rattley beads inside, so will be great desensitization tool. I will try it on the icelandics before I use it on stonewall i think... film at eleven! hey, I could even put lighter fluid on it and make them run and jump thru it Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] what would YOU say
On 2/9/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I've come to believe when I've seen rescue animalsthe owner has a bit of mental illness going on. AND if their animals are neglected...you can bet there are other portions of their lives that are neglected as well. Wha'ts your saying? They just ain't right... Wanda hahhaha. so true! but I was thinking when I saw Oprah the other day about people who live in clutter... the guy said after a while it just becomes unbearable to look at so the people tune it out. If they actually SAW it they would have to face the overwhelming task of getting something done about it.Maybe its a similar case with people who let their horses starve. the woman who had Svertla actually made the remark when people come over I have to draw the window shades because they are so thin and embarassing, I hate to have people over anymore ??? Uh. hello? why not feed them and have people over?? But instead she closed the curtains so she wouldnt have to look at it... I think at some point she must have wanted out of horses entirely but for whatever reason she wouldnt let herself. Maybe it would be admitting she was a failure at it? I dont know... If i couldnt take care of mine I would find them good homes and just give them away or sad to say... if I could not find good homes I would have to put them down cause I could not bear the thought of them suffering even mental anguish! much less physical starvation...or constant pain. That would be a hard one. My friend sylvia is going thru that now with her navicular horse. she needs to put him down but then he gets better :) bless his heart janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Bill Ryder
On 2/9/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have the same project I've got. I have a huge trunkfull of pictures to scan and copy to CD's. Somewhere in that pile, is a pic of me sitting on an Icelandic pony when I was about 3 or 4. Who knew... Wanda that would be too cool. Somewhere in a box I have the only known photo of our old plow horse Teacup, and its a cool pic the family always called Teacups Ghost cause it was a picture taken on top of a picture (remember when cameras could do that accidentally?) so it was a pic of my dad eerily superimposed onto a ghostly image of teacup.-- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Bill Ryder
You have the same project I've got. I have a huge trunkfull of pictures to scan and copy to CD's. Somewhere in that pile, is a pic of me sitting on an Icelandic pony when I was about 3 or 4. Really? Where did you find an Icelandic then - did you visit family in Iceland? How amazing. I want to see that picture! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Gait Video
Just trying out some new video editing software, this video turned out black when I took it last fall. I don't know if it is the greatest what gait video, probably not as I couldn't get the horses from the side much, but it's all I've got right now, I have a feeling I will be able to get better ones this spring when the snow and freezing temps go away. I'm ready for spring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqpnMVg7VWA Kim
[IceHorses] Re: Books and videos about ICelandic Horses
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen a few small herds of Icelandic's elsewhere since, and now I have my own herd: 25, with 18 of them Icelandic's. I guess that's another thing that's dampened my need to go to Iceland. There are some nice herds here in North America, and I feel lucky to have seen some of them. I feel like I have seen Icelandic's in paradise, thanks to Anneliese. :) There are some nice herds in North America, I do like to travel though and would not mind going to Iceland, I think it would be great. There is nothing like getting out of the country for a while. I can't say I would stay away just because I don't agree with how some things are done, if that were true, I couldn't have anything to do with any of the horse people in Kentucky, or probably most horse people for that matter. I hear horrendous things (I think) all the time, usually I try not to watch this stuff. I have now heard, and witnessed more than one person putting full blinds on a horse (to gain their trust), this is a hood with full plastic bubbles over the eyes, instead of part like on driving blinds. Someone makes these things, and it was explained to me that it makes the horse trust you. People know how I am with my horses, I try to be an example, I don't know what else to do. I can't stay away from all people who have these kinds of ideas, which also include hard bits and spurs and dominating the horse, they aren't really looking for better ideas, I don't even know if they know where to look. Maybe it is the same in Iceland for a lot of people. Some of the people who use these things really do care for their horses, I am sure people can't understand that, but I swear they just don't know better. A gentle horsemanship is still rather rare out here, unless it is just innate. In real life, I do try to be an example, I know it is clear to everyone in real life, that I go slowly, hopefully over time they will see the results of what really gaining trust gets you, and having patience. Giving respect to the horse. Waiting for spring now. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Bill Ryder
On 09/02/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have the same project I've got. I have a huge trunkfull of pictures to scan and copy to CD's. Somewhere in that pile, is a pic of me sitting on an Icelandic pony when I was about 3 or 4. Really? Where did you find an Icelandic then - did you visit family in Iceland? How amazing. I want to see that picture! I don't know his history at all, other than he lived with an old guy a few towns over from where we lived. I couldn't find that pic, but I did however find another old picture with the subtitle 'Picture from Iceland It is of a young boy riding a sturdy (large) Icelandic horse... he's got some type of saddle on him, and a very lose noseband on the bridle. It almost looks as though he's using a leather bit of some sort. AND there is Icelandic writing on the back I believe it's from the 1940's. If I can get this pesky new scanner to work...I'll send in both the pic and the writing. I'm sure Mom didn't know there was writing on the back of it. If no one on the list can translate it, I'll have Mom do it the next time she's down. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Was Scooter hates sidepull, now Wanda's seasons
Do you have daffodils that far north? If so, when do they start blooming? Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not an Eskimo...;) and yes, we do have flowers here in Canada. They usually start popping out of the ground late April to mid-may... Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Books and videos about ICelandic Horses
There is nothing like getting out of the country for a while. I can't say I would stay away just because I don't agree with how some things are done, It's not that the horsemanship there is keeping me away so much as it doesn't add any appeal as I set travel priorities. There are lots of places on earth I'd like to see and I know I'll never see many of them. I'd love to see the rainforests of Peru. I'd like to see some of the Far East. I'd like to see more of the good old USA - Alaska particularly - and the Alps, and I'd love to see the big animals of Africa (I don't count the hokey safari at Disney World!) none of which I've seen. I don't have an unlimited travel budget, and Iceland doesn't have enough appeal to me to top the other places I mentioned. I never thought of visiting Iceland before I got the horses. The horses put the country on the list for a while, but an old connection between the country and my horses is not enough to keep Iceland on my list, and the horsemanship there certainly doesn't attract me. When I see all of the above, then maybe I'll think about visiting Iceland. But not to see the horses particularly... Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Simplicity
An interesting comment from the clickryder list: The other thing I thought when reading Museler was, same as Parelli's 'riding with the bellybutton'. Which puts it in 4 words instead of 200 pages. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Was Scooter hates sidepull, now Wanda's seasons
Ok, I KNOW you have flowers, I just meant daffodils in particular! LOL Snort! Sorry...couldn't help teasing. I love the subject line BTWI should use the power of my 'seasons' for good. I'm sure I could heat the western hemisphere some days :) Wanda
[IceHorses] Iceland's Entire Family Tree is Online
Everyone in Iceland is related. Of course, this makes sense, since it's a small island. http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/02/icelands_entire.html Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn, the American Ice Pony Dixie Chick, the Mini Barn Goddess Western WI, USA, Planet Earth Please be a responsible pet owner! http://tinyurl.com/yw3ak6
RE: [IceHorses] Iceland's Entire Family Tree is Online
Everyone in Iceland is related. Of course, this makes sense, since it's a small island. http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/02/icelands_entire.html That's pretty funny, but you're right, not too surprising. If the people are, then I think it's safe to assume that the horses are too. It really amazes me to talk about breeding certain lines of Icelandic's, as if some are royalty or something. (Meaning the horses, of course.) I still will actively refrain from breeding closely related horses - ones with common ancestors in the past few generations - but it just proves that there's a limit to how elite certain lines can be compared to others. There's still no justification for in-breeding to my way of thinking - even if you call it line-breeding. Seems like we need to do whatever we can to keep what existing diversity we have in the gene pool stirred up. Has anyone else noticed that it's hard to find an Icelandic Horse who's NOT related to one or more of the famous stallions? Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] For Karen- Fast IcePony
Hi Karen, I know that you mentioned one of your ponies being clocked on a GPS at 110 mph. So, I thought I would share this photo with you. Next time you can use this photo as proof that your pony does indeed fly down the trails that fast! ;] Raven You have been sent 1 picture. Speed.jpg These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/ attachment: Speed.jpg
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gait Video
On 2/9/07, kim morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Video Edit Magic, there is a free trial, it took me a minute to figure out how to edit the brightness, but it wasn't too difficult. http://www.deskshare.com/vem.aspx Thanks for the link--I'll check it out! V
RE: [IceHorses] For Karen- Fast IcePony
I know that you mentioned one of your ponies being clocked on a GPS at 110 mph. Darn - I guess we were flying so fast that I didn't even see the sign! :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Sensation Hybrid
Finally got to try this saddle today...I love it! So comfy... I love mine too. I don't like the hard use stirrup set-up though. I probably have this set up wrong as there is such a gap. The model I had before came with Conway buckles so you could change to the free-swing mode but you cannot with this model. I need to changeout the leathers. I'm using either Webbers or regular stirrups with mine. Yours looks very nice Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Old Icelandic Picture
What a wonderful photo! Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Sensation Hybrid
Karen Thomas wrote: I don't like the hard use stirrup set-up though. I probably have this set up wrong as there is such a gap. The model I had before came with Conway buckles so you could change to the free-swing mode but you cannot with this model. I need to changeout the leathers. I'm using either Webbers or regular stirrups with mine. Yours looks very nice Thanks! Did you mean in your last statement that you use Webbers or regular leathers? Or did you mean regular stirrups as in iron stirrups? When the Sensation leathers are replaced with Webbers or normal leathers, do I just loop them around the top of the EZ Rides? I remember you saying something about having to unscrew the bolts on the EZ Rides to put regular leathers on? Trish
Re: [IceHorses] Sensation Hybrid
Your pony is so darn cute!!! ;] Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn, the American Ice Pony Dixie Chick, the Mini Barn Goddess Western WI, USA, Planet Earth Please be a responsible pet owner! http://tinyurl.com/yw3ak6
RE: [IceHorses] Sensation Hybrid
Did you mean in your last statement that you use Webbers or regular leathers? Or did you mean regular stirrups as in iron stirrups? Sorry I wasn't clear. I use EZ-ride type stirrups on all my saddles now, with either Webbers or regular stirrups leathers. When the Sensation leathers are replaced with Webbers or normal leathers, do I just loop them around the top of the EZ Rides? I remember you saying something about having to unscrew the bolts on the EZ Rides to put regular leathers on? Webbers are made to slide onto a safety stirrup bar on a treed saddle. The Sensations (and about all the treeless saddles) have a closed ring, instead of a bar, so you can't slide the Webbers on. So, what you can do instead is turn the Webbers upside down if you use the EZ rides. Unbolt the top of the EZ rides, and slide he Webber loop that normally slides onto the stirrup bar through the bolt and replace the bolt. Then, slide the top part of the webber that has the t-buckle through the stirrup loop on the saddle. I've been riding in Sensations with my Webbers upside-down for over a year. The newer EZ-rides have a fat slightly springy cover over the bolt that is supposed to add still more shock absorption. The loop of the Webber won't fit over that. What I tried this last time is sliding the bolt through a piece of 1/2 (I think that's the size) plastic tubing (like they sell for fish tank pumps - they carry it at Lowe's). The plastic tubing will fit through the loop in the Webbers. This isn't necessary if you use normal stirrup leathers. If you want a cheap but effective thing to hold the extra piece of the regular stirrup leathers (not Webbers) so that they don't flop in the breeze, you can use a short piece of the Velcro One-Wrap. I love that stuff - I get that at Lowe's too. (I'm sure Home Depot carries it too.) Gee...I've been making saddle pad covers. Now I'm giving helpful hints on stirrup riggings. I really don't care for Martha Stewart, but darned if this e-mail didn't sound Marth-ish. And that's not a good thing... Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Barefoot Pics Comparison - left front
I pulled Starri's shoes back in August 2005 and thought I would send in these comparison photos...the farrier doesn't think he even needs boots anymore. But I have them just in case... Was he wearing the boots in the pasture, or just for riding? How long had it been since his feet had been trimmed in the first pictures? It looked like they hadn't had good care in a while. How often was he being trimmed when he was shod? Karen Thomas, NC
[IceHorses] Videos of Andi meeting the witches
I signed up for youtube and downloaded these videos I took last weekend of Andi when I put him in with my girls, Raven and Whisper. Here is the first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQTnUI-d-kI And in this second one, you can see Whisper trying to protect and round up Foxi, but Andi breaks into the middle. He lived with Foxi for 2 years, and this is his re-union with her since she had her baby last April: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYaUw0SL4Us There is peace in the herd now. Susan in NV Happy High Desert Trails Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: [IceHorses] Is this rainrot?
On 2/9/07, pippa258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The area below Starri's eye is healing up nicely and then I saw these areas in his coat where the hair seems to be falling out. Could they be bite marks from the other horse? Star has a few spots where Runner has taken her hair off this week. I had the flu and left everyone out in paddocks 24/7 so I wouldn't have to clean stalls or water and they all got ill to each other. :( It was the best I could do, though... Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
Re: [IceHorses] Sensation Hybrid
On 2/9/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The newer EZ-rides have a fat slightly springy cover over the bolt that is supposed to add still more shock absorption. The loop of the Webber won't fit over that. What I tried this last time is sliding the bolt through a piece of 1/2 (I think that's the size) plastic tubing (like they sell for fish tank pumps - they carry it at Lowe's). The plastic tubing will fit through the loop in the Webbers. This isn't necessary if you use normal stirrup leathers. You should use the grey high pressure outdoor PVC pipe, the other stuff isn't strong enough and could shatter or break. I believe I still have 6 or 8 sets of replacement tops that I could bring when we ever get together. I don't think the pipe breaking is going to cause a fall or anything like that since the bolt will hold, but it could potentially injure the horse. Canadian Trail House sells replacement tops for the EZ Rides. She sold them so you could have one set of EZ Rides and use them for different sized leathers. Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
