[IceHorses] File - Editing, Responding to the List
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[IceHorses] OT- Hartz Vitamin Care for Cats RECALL
Sharing this infosince many of us have house barn cats. Hartz Mountain Corporation is voluntarily recalling one specific lot of Hartz Vitamin Care for Cats. For more information, go to: http://www.itchmo.com/new-recall-hartz-vitamin-care-for-cats-3707 Hartz announced a recall on November 2 for a specific lot of Hartz Vitamin Care for cats because of salmonella concerns. Here is the release from their website: The Hartz Mountain Corporation is voluntarily recalling one specific lot of Hartz Vitamin Care for Cats due to concerns that one or more bottles within the lot may have been potentially contaminated with Salmonella. Hartz is fully cooperating with the US Food and Drug Administration in this voluntary recall. The product involved is 3600 bottles of Hartz Vitamin Care for Cats, lot code SZ-16371, UPC number 32700-97701, which was manufactured by a third party manufacturer, UFAC (USA), Inc., in Baconton, Georgia. While normal testing conducted by Hartz and UFAC has not revealed the presence of Salmonella in any Hartz products, sampling conducted by the FDA did detect the presence of Salmonella. Hartz is aggressively investigating the source of the problem.
[IceHorses] WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
I decided to ride Jakey yesterday. I must admit it has been a very long time, he recently had a choke. At the last minute I decided to take a western saddle since we were going out into the field. We went out and everything was fine. We troted and did some canter. Suddenly he just took off. I am talking full out gallop. I don't think my thoroughbred has ever run that fast. I was pulling on him as much as I could. Even the borrowed tom thumb wasn't working. I have never ever had him do this. He flew around a turn and ran to the gate. He then have the nerve to look around at me and nip my foot. . Was he in trouble. I took him in the ring, after I sat down so I would stop shaking. I mean I was visualizing broken bones and cuncutions. I ran him through his paces until a lift of my hand would freeze him. I then let him run around with our young stud colt. He stood at the door to be let out. But I made him stand. I hope now he he has learned his leason and will never do that agian. Please note: We often ride in the field. I don't think anyone has had a horse take off in the field. Even the barn owner, who took care off Jake and bought him for me, was amazed. JR Also note that now he has been taken off all the beet pulp they were giving him.
[IceHorses] Winter feeding
Jakey is a thirty year old. I ride Jakey two or three times a week. The stable owner is in charge of his feeding. She said that they are feeding him one scoop of beet pulp, one scoop of senior feed and one scoop of sweet feed. I told her that this was way too much for him. He is only 13'2 and no more then 700 lbs. She said that when they first got him they were feeding him even more. He was brought in very thin. She also said that if we don't feed him enough his weight will crash. I also have a Rhino medium weight on him. Does anyone have any ideas? Any suppliments or different feeds? JR
[IceHorses] OT- What Gait
Boy...what gait? Seems very bouncy. Wish I knew what she was saying...but I bet's she discussing the route she's going to take with Hazel. http://tinyurl.com/yqmjjz Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Solo Trail Ride on Andi
not give in. That person is not me! So maybe you could find someone for Dagur to take out and let them have the fight with him and win?? That might be a good idea. Thanks Lorraine __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [IceHorses] More Sidepull Pictures
... side piece getting in the horses eyes when you pull on the opposite rein?-- Laree in NC No, the only part that tightens when you rein is the piece that goes under under the chin that is attached but independent to the other side of the noseband...the bridle never moves and the whole noseband doesn't move. Ashley I_._,_.__ I'll try to send a photo_ .
Re: [IceHorses] WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
On 11/4/07, JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the last minute I decided to take a western saddle since we were going out into the field. Does the saddle fit? Also note that now he has been taken off all the beet pulp they were giving him. Personally I would remove the sweet feed because I've heard that is like feeding candy; and from what I've read about the beet pulp, it's a good filler. I'm sure others on this list with more experience will be able to help more. V NB Canada
[IceHorses] OT- Jessica, different kind of House Pet
What a spoiled girl! http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=3379 Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:10:56 -, you wrote: I decided to ride Jakey yesterday. I must admit it has been a very long time, he recently had a choke. Why would you ride an unfit horse in canter??? Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
RE: [IceHorses] WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
Does the saddle fit? That would be my first question too, Virginia. It's possible to find western saddles to fit some Icelandic's, but many (most?) western saddles are too long and too narrow for Icelandic short, broad, backs. It's always good to have a horse's respect, but if he's in pain for any reason (saddle, bit, teeth needing floating, etc.) any steps forward in trust/respect-building will be lost if pain returns on the next ride. (Been there, done that, I'm ashamed to say...) Maybe Jake's owner has already addressed this and I've missed it, and if so, I apologize for not remembering. I haven't spent as much time following up on list posts lately as I usually do, but I'd really like to hear more about Scooter's barn/buddy sourness too. I keep wondering what else might be going on with him, too - wonder if Scooter might have some pain/confusion issue behind his behavior too...or at least, fueling the behavior? Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.20/1108 - Release Date: 11/3/2007 9:42 PM
Re: [IceHorses] WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:50:37 -0400, you wrote: Personally I would remove the sweet feed because I've heard that is like feeding candy; and from what I've read about the beet pulp, it's a good filler. This is a 30 year old horse, unfit, not been ridden for a long time, suddenly had a saddle put on and ridden in trot and canter. Now, to me, that seems like simply asking for trouble. And not because of what he's being fed - a 30 year old will have much higher needs if he's to maintain weight through the winter, and once he loses weight you will find it really hard to get it back on him. Beet pulp is indeed a filler - the treatment modern beet pulp undergoes when the sugar is extracted means it's not an awful lot more than *just* a filler with a few vitamins and minerals. This old guy probably needs his sweet feed too. It sounds to me like he has some kind of pain issue - not that surprising if he's had a long rest, then been asked to trot and canter out of the blue. I would guess he hurt, and he said in the only way left get the hell off me, lady!. So he got more riding, pretty intense from the sound of it, to teach him a lesson If you had had a long break from exercise (and you were a pensioner to boot!), you would not start with a 5 mile run. You should not ask your poor old horse to do the same - please, I know this probably sounds harsh, but have some common sense! Start him gently, just 10 minutes at walk only for a week or two, gradually building him up to an hour or so. Then start adding some trot (or tolt or whatever he finds easiest). Finally, once you've built up some basic fitness, think about cantering. Give the guy a break, he deserves better. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
RE: [IceHorses] Winter feeding
Jakey is a thirty year old. I ride Jakey two or three times a week. The stable owner is in charge of his feeding. She said that they are feeding him one scoop of beet pulp, one scoop of senior feed and one scoop of sweet feed. I told her that this was way too much for him. He is only 13'2 and no more then 700 lbs. She said that when they first got him they were feeding him even more. He was brought in very thin. She also said that if we don't feed him enough his weight will crash. That's not an extraordinary amount of feed for some 30-year-olds...of course, scoop is a vague measurement. Is that per day, twice a day...? More often? All at once? I have no idea either, what his condition is - his body condition, the condition of his teeth, etc. How much hay/grass does he eat, and does he quid? Many 30-year-olds have such poor teeth that they need to get all their nutrition from senior feeds. I'm not a big fan of sweet feed anyway, but especially not for seniors. Often, they can't digest it. I also have a Rhino medium weight on him. I'm sorrywhat is a Rhino medium weight...? Is that a blanket? Does anyone have any ideas? Any suppliments or different feeds? Where are you? I swear by Triple Crown Senior for my older horses, but I don't think it's available in all parts of the country. The beet pulp is probably a good idea from all I've read - Triple Crown Senior we use is a beet-pulp-based feed, so I don't feed beet pulp separately. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.20/1108 - Release Date: 11/3/2007 9:42 PM
RE: [IceHorses] More Sidepull Pictures
No, the only part that tightens when you rein is the piece that goes under under the chin that is attached but independent to the other side of the noseband...the bridle never moves and the whole noseband doesn't move. Good to know, Ashley - I may try one of those. Pictures would be appreciated! Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.20/1108 - Release Date: 11/3/2007 9:42 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[IceHorses] Re: WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
This is a 30 year old horse, unfit, not been ridden for a long time, suddenly had a saddle put on and ridden in trot and canter. Now, to me, that seems like simply asking for trouble. And not because of what he's being fed - a 30 year old will have much higher needs if he's to maintain weight through the winter, and once he loses weight you will find it really hard to get it back on him. Beet pulp is indeed a filler - the treatment modern beet pulp undergoes when the sugar is extracted means it's not an awful lot more than *just* a filler with a few vitamins and minerals. This old guy probably needs his sweet feed too. It sounds to me like he has some kind of pain issue - not that surprising if he's had a long rest, then been asked to trot and canter out of the blue. I would guess he hurt, and he said in the only way left get the hell off me, lady!. So he got more riding, pretty intense from the sound of it, to teach him a lesson If you had had a long break from exercise (and you were a pensioner to boot!), you would not start with a 5 mile run. You should not ask your poor old horse to do the same - please, I know this probably sounds harsh, but have some common sense! Start him gently, just 10 minutes at walk only for a week or two, gradually building him up to an hour or so. Then start adding some trot (or tolt or whatever he finds easiest). Finally, once you've built up some basic fitness, think about cantering. Give the guy a break, he deserves better. Mic Well said, Mic! I'd also be concerned about the saddle fit/causing pain--that's to me what he seemed to be saying. Robyn S
[IceHorses] Re: Winter feeding
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakey is a thirty year old. I ride Jakey two or three times a week. The stable owner is in charge of his feeding. She said that they are feeding him one scoop of beet pulp, one scoop of senior feed and one scoop of sweet feed. I told her that this was way too much for him. He is only 13'2 and no more then 700 lbs. She said that when they first got him they were feeding him even more. He was brought in very thin. She also said that if we don't feed him enough his weight will crash. I also have a Rhino medium weight on him. Does anyone have any ideas? Any suppliments or different feeds? You mentioned that he'd choked before. Is the beet pulp soaked? If the barn owner is feeding him 1 scoop is that about a pound+ of dry beet pulp, or is that after it's been soaked? To my knowledge, beet pulp *must* be soaked or it *can* cause choke. I fed my old 14.2 horse about 1 lb of beet pulp pellets; soaked, they made about a 3 gallon pail of beet pulp. He also ate grass hay. I think you should talk w/ a vet about your horse's diet, and not what the stable owner says. Your vet will know more about horse nutrition. Robyn S
[IceHorses] Blinders, the Movie
Have you heard of this new movie? Blinders. How sad. You Tube Blinderstrailerhttp://tinyurl.com/yuo2xg Blinders, the Truth behind the Tradition http://www.blindersthemovie.com/ Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
[IceHorses] looking for a used diddi pad
Hi. If anyone has one I am interested as my husband has stolen mine. his horse was diagnosed with kissing spine(x-rays and radiographs)and has only lasted 4 months between shots. A saddle fitter said his back is so short that there would not be a saddle with a tree that could fit him without going too far back. We had noticed a couple of times that my hubby used my diddi that adam was moving real nice. Against TUFTS advice of not getting a treeless saddle, we started using my diddi on adam six months ago.He is doing great and my vet is pleased how well his back is doing. So I have been using a great bareback pad, but would like a diddi before winter sets in as it would be nice to have some stirrups to ride in the snow. please e-mail if you have one! Sue
[IceHorses] Re: WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
take a western saddle since we were going out into the field. We went out and everything was fine. We trotted and did some canter. Suddenly he just took off. I am talking full out gallop. I can imagine how you must have felt, all that adrenaline pumping, boy, not a good feeling! Something must have been wrong if he took off, and he doesn't usually do that. Maybe he wasn't used to the western saddle (possibly it did not fit him or impinged somewhere), or possibly the tom thumb bit pinched his mouth? I hope you can find the reason why he took off, and hope that it doesn't happen again. How's he doing on groundwork? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
If you had had a long break from exercise (and you were a pensioner to boot!), you would not start with a 5 mile run. You should not ask your poor old horse to do the same - please, I know this probably sounds harsh, but have some common sense! Start him gently, just 10 minutes at walk only for a week or two, gradually building him up to an hour or so. Then start adding some trot (or tolt or whatever he finds easiest). Finally, once you've built up some basic fitness, think about cantering. Give the guy a break, he deserves better. I think that's good advice for a senior horse, Mic, and I'd even recommend only a slightly more strenuous start-back for a middle-aged horse, or any horse returning to work after a lay-off. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.20/1108 - Release Date: 11/3/2007 9:42 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[IceHorses] Re: Solo Trail Ride on Andi
http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/service/displayMediaPlayPage.kickAction?mediaType=VIDEOmediaId=102466as=6211 Thank you, so much, Susan, for the videos of Andi's progress. This video is a winner! I think this video is a good representation for the breed. Judy
Re: [IceHorses] WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
Mic makes a very good point. When I first started running (after having ridden horses for 20 years or so) I was absolutely horrified by what I knew I had done to some horses. I only wished I could find them and apologize. If you are not fit and are not conditioned or change to different terrain or work too many days in a row, it hurts! With our endurance horses, we start them very slowly and only increase speed or distance and never both. As for feed, I'm not sure that sounds out of line. My 12 year old TWH (14.3, maybe 800- 900 lbs) gets 3 scoops of beet pulp, 2 scoops of rice bran pellets, 1 scoop of BOSS, one scoop of a local grain mix called LMF showtime, vitamins in the am and a whole lot of chopped carrots and all of this twice a day, plus pasture and a good quality grass hay. The other thing here is to remember that there are scoops and scoops. They are not all the same size. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Winter feeding
Forgot - we soak any feed mix with beet pulp in it. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] OT- Jessica, different kind of House Pet
Ohmigosh! I have to send this to our daughter. She and I got caught up once in watching the zoo cam at the Portland (OR) zoo, trained on a hippo. Many times, she was just lying around, but we checked on her several times a day. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Pole maze
We practiced some patterns using the pole maze Thank you, Karen, for these pictures! Good examples of using the poles. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Pole maze
Thank you, Karen, for these pictures! Good examples of using the poles. Thanks. Those PVC poles are quite versatile. You can use them for trot poles, on the ground or with a holder at each end to make them into caveletti. You can ask a horse to sidepass over one.You can set them up in maze patterns to practice steering and to practice asking one foot at a time to move. You can go forward through part of the maze, back through another part. I like to have a section set up as an L for backing through. I've accumulated them over a period of years, buying them from the local home improvement store. I think some of them are at least 18 years old, and stay out in the weather year round. I originally bought them to be the cross-pieces for the jump standards, back when Emily was showing hunters. We've definitely gotten our money's worth out of them. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.20/1108 - Release Date: 11/3/2007 9:42 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic Horse Pictures / Analyzing Conformation
http://www.pbase.com/agustjons/image/29517094 http://www.flickr.com/photos/carodani/1791805735/ That´s a really good photo to show to anyone who actually believes the camera never lies... HaHa! It's a very interesting picture! I think we need a good caption for the first picture! (Hey, I thought the peanut butter and jelly sandwich was for ME!) The good thing is that we can look at conformation in these pictures. Check out the legs of the horses. Are they straight? Do the hooves point forward? are they directly under the knees? Here's a video that we can check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg9PdIP0QhQ Same questions for the legs; are they straight? do the hooves point forward? or ?? How does the conformation of the leg affect the flight when the horse is in motion? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Riddari
Mane. Hrim meaning whore frost(???) and Faxi meaning mane. Now that works for Faxi.but I don't know how to dissect Knight. duh.okay we could call him Bernadette: You are funny! It's hoar frost. That is the kind of frost that forms right at the freezing point when the humidity is high - it makes everything look white. Anneliese
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?
Hubby was reading that we shouldn't let the horses out on the pasture in winter--it damages the pasture. So I'm not sure what to do--keep them on a sacrifice lot all winter? I was planning the sacrifice pen to be 100 x 200 -- is that big enough for 2 ponies all winter? I don't want to ruin the pasture or let my ponies get sick or fat either V. I would worry about ruining the pasture if you had only a little bit of it. If you have enough of it, two horses won't do all that much damage. Let them run free and repair the damage (if any) in the spring - they will love you for it. Anneliese
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?
On 11/1/07 8:15 AM, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/1/07, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would strip graze it using electric fence (assuming it's grass and weeds not harmful to horses). That way it will take you quite a way through the winter... That sounds good. How do I know when to move the fencing? Would fencing off an acre at a time be OK or would it be too small? V Way too small, in my humble opinion. Let's think sometimes about what the horses would enjoy. Anneliese
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?
On 11/2/07, Anneliese Virro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would worry about ruining the pasture if you had only a little bit of it. If you have enough of it, two horses won't do all that much damage. Let them run free and repair the damage (if any) in the spring - they will love you for it. I think that is what we will end up doing. :D V
[IceHorses] Tivar and the red baroness!
The red baroness dropped by today and rode Tivar on some dogfights over the english countryside. http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/service/displayMediaPlayPage.kickAction?mediaType=PHOTOmediaId=656723as=6211 and Nasi was so Jealous he stole the baroness's cap http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/service/displayMediaPlayPage.kickAction?mediaType=PHOTOmediaId=656746as=6211 Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Gallant Boy is at Dixie Plantation
I took a photo of Gallant Boy to Dixie Plantation and Ms. Lovingston's neice was thrilled to see him and put it immediately in the trophy room where all the cups and trophys etc that The livingstons won thru the years at horse shows. She put him right next to Midnight Sun! I am very excited. She said they will frame it. She said she has all the papers on all the horses ever stabled there and that she has seen his name on many registration papers and when she passed away, Gallant Boy was the only standing stud at Dixie plantation owned by ms. Livngston! It was my fantasy to some day take Gallant Boy back there, and now he is :) Here is the trophy room http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/service/displayMediaPlayPage.kickAction?mediaType=PHOTOmediaId=656792as=6211 and a closer pic where you can see GB is the only color photo in the room :) http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/service/displayMediaPlayPage.kickAction?mediaType=PHOTOmediaId=656771as=6211 and a pic of me standing in the canopied drive. There is a big fancy hedge composed of hedges shaped like horse shoes and the one in the center is shaped like a bit :) http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/service/displayMediaPlayPage.kickAction?mediaType=PHOTOmediaId=656796as=6211 janice-- -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] a bizarre mare
my gosh what do you think caused this mares udders to swell like this! could it be because of halloween and she is turning into a cow!?!?!? http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/service/displayMediaPlayPage.kickAction?mediaType=PHOTOmediaId=656908as=6211 Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Re: A Second Perfect Ride
On 11/2/07, blessiowner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- I really hope this is not TMI. Pamela no... thanks for taking the time to explain it all and not make me look it up again :) I think you did all thr right things with Blessi! They say the horse you lead is the horse you ride so if he was bargey on the lead and you did not work it out he may have been bargey under saddle. I worked with Nasi today, but he has entered into some sort of eerily calm phase. He used to be a real scampy pistol ball and everyone said he would mature and get calm but I didnt believe it til now :) He reminds me of his mother. She will just stand so quiet and calm and just stare and not even move. His former owner told me when she was under saddle tho she was very very energetic, so I guess Nasi could be the same... but today it was like he was on drugs. I think I could have led him off a cliff haha Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Charm's Outing, Ground Driving
Here's a little video of Charm, ground driving, off the property, going up the street. http://youtube.com/watch?v=eRz_CkG3a58 A car went by while we were headed up the street. I didn't get it on camera, tho. The camera was on at the time, pointed at Charm. When I heard the car approaching us, I turned the camera off, in case I needed both hands on the reins, but Charm just kept going like the car wasn't even there. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Gallant Boy is at Dixie Plantation
Janice, the list was a little boring today until you returned home. You folks in the South have such an amazing heritage. Those trees were probably planted before Oregon was a state. Loved the red baroness - your horses have all the fun, and the trophy case and old pictures - they're wonderful. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Solo Trail Ride on Andi/Judy
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This video is a winner! I think this video is a good representation for the breed. Thank you, Judy! That means a lot coming from you. I was beginning to wonder if some people here think it is too much too fast and with only 30 days at the trainer. Not by comments, but let's say the lack of comments from certain people. But I think Andi's demeanor tells the tale! I took him out by himself again this morning, we did the same loop in reverse, and he was the same. He likes to look around at things, and I let him. He doesn't spook, but does get tight in the high tamarask/treed areas. But that's because he's not used to them! Not many trees in the desert. We are going to take a different loop tomorrow, but we will be riding solo for quite a while - I want him to learn to depend on me and not a buddy horse. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [IceHorses] Charm's Outing, Ground Driving
Charm IS a good girl, Jusy. How ever in the world do you manage the reins and the camera? I finally have been able to ground drive Tosca over three bridges, one car-sized and two smaller horse bridges. She would always before lead over but not want to go with me behind her. We met a rider coming in to the barn one day and came home at a clip that was just about as fast as I wanted to walk. My stumpy old legs were flying. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Solo Trail Ride on Andi/Judy
Susan, you are right on. I alsways used to take my horses out alone in the beginning. You can always go back and add company, but it's hard to subtract if your horse becomes dependent upon it. In some ways, Hunter is more fun out alone than he is with company. We do both because as an endurance horse, he has to keep his wits when he's in a group of horses and he has to be comfortable for those sweet times when we have the trail to ourselves. Our mentor, Bev Hoogendyk, take her youngsters (always 5 or older) out on trail the minute they are safe to ride, sometimes as soon as a week or so under saddle. She does LOTS of ground work in advance, however. She thinks it gives them something to think about. She'll go back to the arena after they've learned to handle themselves on the trails. Of course she is much braver than I am and probably braver than most of the people on the list. It really isn't a good idea to take a horse out and away until you have some brakes and the ability to turn in both directions at the very least. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
you need to get one of those tee shirts that says I do my own stunts :) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Re: WWWHHHHOOOAAAAA
This is a 30 year old horse, unfit, not been ridden for a long time, suddenly had a saddle put on and ridden in trot and canter. Now, to me, that seems like simply asking for trouble. He had been in good condition before he choked, like a month ago. A day of arena work, a day of trail work, and one of something new. The trotting and cantering was his idea. He was about jumping out of his shoes. He was practicaly piaffing. I told him to trot and he started a slow canter. I pulled him out of it after a few strides though. It sounds to me like he has some kind of pain issue - not that surprising if he's had a long rest, then been asked to trot and canter out of the blue. I would guess he hurt, and he said in the only way left get the hell off me, lady!. The saddle does fit. I have had four people, trainer, teacher, show trainer, barn owner: all that ride western. He is long in the back and has nice withers. I do usually ride him in my english but I know that he can get naughty after some time off. So he got more riding, pretty intense from the sound of it, to teach him a lesson I just had him do turning on the hunches and forehand, walk/back, side pass, all things he has done before. I do that until he seems to be on the aids. If you had had a long break from exercise (and you were a pensioner to boot!), you would not start with a 5 mile run. You should not ask your poor old horse to do the same - please, I know this probably sounds harsh, but have some common sense! We used to take long trail rides. He has what I call the pony patiance. Or lack there of. He is always jigging and dancing. I have to leave his stall door open, with a guard, so he can watch everything going on in the barn. JR
Re: [IceHorses] Hogs at feeding time
I have three herds and i think therein lies the problem, or part of it. One herd is Stonewall and Traveller and Jaspar. Stonewall and Traveller have been together since birth and are the same exact age and they act like brothers who fight. Its just constant. They actually leave bloody scabs fighting over Jaspar. Then the second herd is Curly Ray and Fox. Curly Ray is a mini jack and picks fights with everyone thru the fence and then when they fight back big bubbah Fox has to go whoop everybody. Then I have Nasi and Tivar. THEN I turn them out and they are fine. They get along great. They run to greet friends from the other herd like long lost loved ones, mutual grooming, playing all that. Then they come in at feeding time and all I gotta say is honey, get outa the way. Its like a bumper car track. A mob scene. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Icelandic Horse Pictures / Analyzing Conformation
vhttp://www.pbase.com/agustjons/image/29517094 The good thing is that we can look at conformation in these pictures. Check out the legs of the horses. Are they straight? It looks to me like the horse is toed out. But, his feet also look long, and I'm not sure what's up with his head position, and why his reins are so uneven - he looks as if he could be in an odd position, with his feet sort of planted for lack of a better term. The terrain is also pretty uneven. If this is a stallion, and I were looking to breed a mare to him, I would certainly ask more questions, but I wouldn't bank on his legs being bad from this odd picture. What I DO like about him is that there is some space between his legs...that his legs are on the front corners. I hate seeing so many of the newer, show-type horses with legs so close together. Unfortunately, his back legs look pretty close together... but maybe that's just an illusion from his odd stance and the bad camera angle. Do the hooves point forward? are they directly under the knees? The hooves in this picture seem to point out a little, and they don't appear to be under his knees...I'd want to see more pictures though, before I'd draw a full conclusion though. Maybe it could be from his odd stance at the moment, or from a funky trim. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.20/1108 - Release Date: 11/3/2007 9:42 PM
RE: [IceHorses] Tivar and the red baroness!
The red baroness dropped by today and rode Tivar on some dogfights over the english countryside. http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/service/displayMediaPlayPage.kickAction?mediaType=PHOTOmediaId=656723as=6211 Is that Ruby? I thought it was a stuffed animal at first. :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.20/1108 - Release Date: 11/3/2007 9:42 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Turnout Sheets
On 01/11/2007, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now tell me again - the majority of you are not blanketing your Icelandics except in extreme weather ?? If that's correct, what do you consider extreme? Nancy, we've never blanketed, even during a blizzard this past spring. The horses just went for the trees and they were fine. When it gets really cold we just feed more and make sure that they have plenty of water available. The lower the temps, the more hay is given... Extreme weather? -45 Cbut that's rare. -20 is normal during the dead of winter. We make sure they have a place to get out of the wind when necessary. The only time I worry is when it's rained first and they haven't had a chance to dry before the temperature drops. When that happens, usually Kria (the old one) or Peppy (the little one) need to go in the barn for a few hours. But no blankets are used even then. The only time we do blanket is to wick of moisture after a ride or driving session... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] A beautiful day in the neighborhood
On 03/11/2007, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We spent some time in the arena this morning, working with the obstacles. It's a beautiful day in NC - cool and slightly breezy, and not a cloud in the sky. I can't believe this. We had snow on the ground in Calgary this morning when we woke up. AND I just bought myself a winter riding suit from Greenhawk AND then I come home to see Karen's pictures. I feel like I'm on Mars... Wanda
