Re: [IceHorses] saddles
I was looking at a Hnakkvirki > and a Astund > Faxi both very used but still pretty expensive. Has anyone ridden > in this > type of saddle, either one of them. I might want a saddle with a > tree. I am in > a real dilemma over this. Sylvia My good friend has an Astund, it is VERY comfortable, and fits mosts Icelandics that we have tried it on.I have the other model, and it seems a bit long, but I have a BIG 14 hand gelding that it fits like a glove, so you need a horse that does not have a short back to use it IMO. One thing I do not like about it is the flaps are long and get in my way when I cinch the girth.but they provide a lot of smooth protection as well Sally is using the Benni harmony with a flexible tree, and the horses really love it.it seems designed well The Astund is a very secure seat BTW, at least the model my friend has, I could ask her which model. It is a costly saddle, but hers is in better condition very used than a lot of new saddles, very well made. Skye Fire Island Eco-Treks-808-443-6085 Fire Island Professional Farrier Service-640-6080
Re: [IceHorses] Wooly yak feet
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I took some pictures of Isak's feet during the > progress of today's trim. << Why are they so white? Does he cut all that sole out Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Disclaimer CAUTION: DO NOT DRIVE WITH HOT COFFEE IN YOUR LAP Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] Njorthur again
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I ride longer (up to 30 miles) distances and I weigh 160 lbs. I'm worried about the treeless saddles. << I am going to demo on of the Specialized and try it on Whisper and Andi both. They are fairly short, so I'm hoping with different pads and shims, it will work for both of them. If you're not in a hurry to buy, I will be happy to give you a report. I really don't think Whisper likes the treeless for the longer distances. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Disclaimer CAUTION: DO NOT DRIVE WITH HOT COFFEE IN YOUR LAP Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] saddles
Don't forget Flex Panel saddles. <;p] I ride in a Reactor Panel endurance saddle. For Huginn, it was one of two saddles that worked for him. And the RP saddle was the only one of the two that also worked for me. Do you happen to have a saddle fitter in your area that could help you? Have fun saddle shopping! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: Assa
Yes...I love that photo!! Assa is such a doll. That "up-do" reminds me of Don King. HA! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] OT question about clothes
> No, but I have a wonderful one my daughter made for > me. > Could she please make me one. I wear med. LOL Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[IceHorses] saddles
Hi, I have been riding my gelding on trail now that he is getting broke to ride around. Last time I used an Icelandic saddle and it hurt my butt. Fits him. This week I used my treeless saddle and it swims around on him now that he is loosing weight and getting fit. I was looking at a Hnakkvirki and a Astund Faxi both very used but still pretty expensive. Has anyone ridden in this type of saddle, either one of them. I might want a saddle with a tree. I am in a real dilemma over this. Sylvia **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [IceHorses] Warning
On 29/12/2007, Bia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my parrots puke on me all the time! LOL! It grosses everyone out but me. My > male eclectus...well... I let him do you know what on my hand (it begins > with an M) I got advice from an avian expert at the San diego zoo who told > me to let him do it and I will avoid ALOT of agression during his life > time... so I do... :) Oh...I'm not really understanding this.and I'm thinking that's a good thing. (after a few moments) Blinkokay...now I get itand I liked it better when I was still cloudy about the issue ;)... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Wooly yak feet
On 29/12/2007, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I took some pictures of Isak's feet during the progress of today's trim. He > really grows some hoof between trims. I think he has nice little feet, > despite living in the sucky Carolina winter mud - his feet are more like > dad's than mom's. Very nice feet. Very nice trim too. Marcus looks like he has a set of arms on him. Wanda
[IceHorses] Love at First Bite-Spanish Andalusian Stallion
Cute video of horse playing with a round bale http://tinyurl.com/2n3awn He reminds me of my dog Molly Macaroni, who loves her pillows, she attacks them in the same way. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
RE: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
Hi Karen, >>I don't know if anyone has ever noticed, but horses always look fluffier when it's really cold. I've never known if it's static from the cold that makes the coats fluff up, or if they fluff them up to add insulating value. That's true with non-Icelandic's as much as with Icelandic's. Yes horses definitely fluff up the colder it is. I do think it is the insulating factor. Means people in cold climates really have to feel their horses sides because they look really fat and be quite thin. I have bought a few foals that had not been fed well and they had really long hair - but were really thin underneath. I also find that there are two main types of coats with Icelandics regardless of where they live. Some grow a long coat and some have shorter but a really dense coat. Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
RE: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
>>> I have a theory as to why horses in warmer regions have longer hair than >>> horses in colder, more snow areas. I found that Gloi's coat is shorter but >>> denser than Falki's when he got here. Falki's seems to have gotten denser >>> in the past 2 months that he's been here. I don't really think that horses here have longer hair as a rule. We have some range in the coat lengths. Saga has a short-ish coat too, at least as Icelandic's go - and she's Gloi's full sister. Flekka, Isak's mom, has a long coat, much like Isak's. Trausti is a cousin of Flekka's and his coat is much like theirs. Loftur is really wooly too - but as far as I know, he has no close relatives here. Ima, Angie and Bjola have shorter coats than Isak's family - and they are closely related. I think the biggest difference is genetic, and varies from family to family. Sina was my first Icelandic, and I thought she was really hairy that first winter - but now I see she's nowhere nearly has hairy as the Flekka/Trausti/Isak family. BTW, all of my horses are woollier - longer and denser - than they were when you took Falki home too. You can barely see the clip marks on their coats and I'd just clipped them before the clinic. The coats seem to keep growing until into December. I don't know if anyone has ever noticed, but horses always look fluffier when it's really cold. I've never known if it's static from the cold that makes the coats fluff up, or if they fluff them up to add insulating value. That's true with non-Icelandic's as much as with Icelandic's. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM
RE: [IceHorses] Tivette ears
>>> I have some of that "roan like" coloring as do my older girls. Angie is only 11 though, so she's not an older horse. I've seen a picture of her when she was young, and she had the coloring then too - possibly not as pronounced, but it was there. It's just her. My old Arab, 28, is going gray quickly, but it's not the same thing that Angie has. He only started graying about the time he hit 20 or so, and it's increasing rapidly now. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM
RE: [IceHorses] Starting young horses
Hi Judy >>>These are really good photos! Do you have them in larger size? If so, I'd like to make a page for Mandy. Thanks, that would be really nice. What size do you want the photos? I also took a bit of video of her ride on Ofeigur, same day as the photos - if I can figure how to send it I will. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] Tivette ears
> You can also see all the > roan-like coloring on her face I have some of that "roan like" coloring as do my older girls. :o) Farsælt Komandi Ár! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
On Dec 29, 2007 4:02 PM, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that is a cute little boy! And, finally, one with a coat. I've been > meaning to ask Wanda how here, pictured in the snow, have less coat than > mine down here in rainly muddy Southern Oregon. I have a theory as to why horses in warmer regions have longer hair than horses in colder, more snow areas. I found that Gloi's coat is shorter but denser than Falki's when he got here. Falki's seems to have gotten denser in the past 2 months that he's been here. Maybe in warmer temps the longer coat helps to 'drain' or direct the rain off the horse's back and the less dense coat would allow better comfort for warmer temps. The shorter denser hair may be better for insulation from the snow sitting on their back and the colder temps. When I was brushing Falki tonight some hair was coming out, but why not the days are getting longer and spring is coming! (Even if we are only one week into winter.) -- Anna Southern Ohio
[IceHorses] Pay It Forward for 2008
>From Pay It Forward: Start a revolution--it begins with you! The premise of the novel Pay It Forward is one that any person can implement in his or her own life, at any time. It begins with doing a favor for another person -- without any expectation of being paid back. Indeed one would request that the recipient of that favor do the same for someone else: ideally for three other people. The unconditional favors can be large or small. As Trevor observes: it doesn't have to be a big thing. It can just seem that way, depending on whom you do it for. Trevor's concept of "paying it forward" comes from an extra credit assignment given to him in school. His teacher asks the students to "Think of an idea for world change, and put it into action." Judy
Re: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
Gosh Karen, Isac is adorable! Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Busy day - Runa's first ride; Angie's first trim
Way to go Runa. Of course, we do need pictures. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] more winter photos
Yikes...you do have snow. HA!!You're farm is beautiful Robyn. We have about 15" spots in our pasture. Poor little Dixie...her belly rubs on the snow as she walks. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
[IceHorses] The Lone Ranger Creed
The Lone Ranger Creed I believe that to have a friend, a man must be one. That all men are created equal and that everyone has within himself the power to make this a better world. That God put the firewood there, but that every man must gather and light it himself. In being prepared physically, mentally, and morally to fight when necessary for that which is right. That a man should make the most of what equipment he has. That "this government, of the people, by the people, and for the people," shall live always. That men should live by the rule of what is best for the greatest number. That sooner or later...somewhere...somehow...we must settle with the world and make payment for what we have taken. That all things change, but the truth, and the truth alone lives on forever. I believe in my Creator, my country, my fellow man. The Lone Ranger
RE: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
>>> He is gorgeous! Drop dead gorgeous. Thanks! He knows it. :) >>> How tall his he? Just wondering, Dancer is about the same age and almost 13 hands and I don't know if he going to be a "jumbo" size Icey or Isak is my shorty from 2006, about 12.1 or 12.2 now. The two fillies and Landi are taller. I think the fillies may be 13.1H and Landi is probably 13H - maybe a little over. Ima, born in 2004, was about 13.1-ish at that age, and she's about 13.3H now. I've wondered if the boys grow later though, like human boys do? Actually, I'm kind of surprised that my babies are all this big. Three of the four moms are right on 13H, and Melnir is only about 13.1H. It's pretty amazing to me that three of the babies are already as tall as their parents. I suspect that Isak will end up around 12.3-13H - but what do I know?! I'm really just guessing. :) Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
Karen, He is gorgeous! Drop dead gorgeous. How tall his he? Just wondering, Dancer is about the same age and almost 13 hands and I don't know if he going to be a "jumbo" size Icey or
Re: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
oh karenhe is ADORABLE! Bia
Re: [IceHorses] Warning
my parrots puke on me all the time! LOL! It grosses everyone out but me. My male eclectus...well... I let him do you know what on my hand (it begins with an M) I got advice from an avian expert at the San diego zoo who told me to let him do it and I will avoid ALOT of agression during his life time... so I do... :) Bia
RE: [IceHorses] more winter photos
Wow, and I'm not even a fan of winter! Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[IceHorses] Busy day - Runa's first ride; Angie's first trim
We had a very busy, but fun day here. Runa got to do her first pony ride, and it was a non-event. She was totally cool with it, like she'd done it all her life. I led Shirley for maybe 5 minutes, and that was enough for today. Since I was leading and Cary wasn't around, there are no pictures. Then, the farrier came, and he gave most of the horses their trims. Angie got her first trim here. It seemed to surprise her to see all the stalls full of horses - usually it's just her and one or two others when she comes in. Today, though, there was a full house, and then she'd never seen the farrier here. She reverted slightly to her original wide-eyed look of concern, but she didn't jump or startle even once. Cary led her on the lead line in the aisle while Marcus trimmed Loftur (who, ironically, was my wide-eyed rehab three and a half years ago, but is now cool as a cucumber) and then she had her turn. It was almost like she was relieved to see that was all that was up, because once he started trimming, she looked more relaxed and business-like. All in all, I was very proud of her. We've had rain this week (remind me not to whine, since we've had such a drought), and it's supposed to rain again tomorrow. Hopefully, I can get some pics of Runa under saddle soon. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM
Re: [IceHorses] Starting young horses
> Here are some photos of Mandy working with one of Barbara Owens 2003 > geldings. These are really good photos! Do you have them in larger size? If so, I'd like to make a page for Mandy. Thanks! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Njorthur again
>> ride longer (up to 30 miles) distances and I weigh 160 lbs. I'm worried about the treeless saddles NancyI think that as long as the horse's back is healthy, you should be fine as you are NOT heavy! Do you have a Port Lewis Impression Pad or access to one? It's a great tool. >> The Tucker is too long and probably will not be wide enough I love my Tucker endurance, but it was too long and way too narrow for Huginn. Huginn has a dippy back and I am heavier than you, so for me the Sensation only worked for short rides. I loved my BMSS, but that also did not work for Huginn. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] OT - choices
>> used to have quite an operatic career...can still sing Very cool!! >> Raven - how were your vocal cords damaged? I have had thyroid problems for most of my life, seems to run in my family. I used to have a benign tumor on my thyroid. Over the years it slowly got huge, to the point where I started to have compression problems. Dec 98' I had surgery to remove the growth, once in there the surgeon decided to also do a total thyroidectomy. In the process my vocal cords were damaged. After the surgery I could only squeak or whisper for the first three months. When I try to sing now ..my voice just sorta cracks or sqeaks. Like I'm running out of breath. Now, don't get me wrong, my voice pre surgery was never on the professional level, but I did at least sound okay. HA! >>BTW...I loved the link to your albums of your family and grandpa. Ah...thanks! >> My other thought for a task to start this year was to start law school and be an animal rights lawyer (NOT for the PETA types) to prosecute animal cruelty and neglect cases Wow...law school. Good for you! Where are you thinking of attending? My degree is Criminal Justice, Law Enforcement with a minor in Sociology, Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
RE: [IceHorses] another young horse
Hi Annie, >>I am interested to know what Njorthur has on his head and how it works. Njorthur is wearing a type of sidepull. This is the same basic style as the one Kaaren Jordan's husband makes - he copied the design (with our blessing) that Linda had made & the kind we sell. This one was made in Germany and the nosepiece is leather but rolled leather rather than flat leather. The nosepiece is quite shaped and fits like a halter and the nosepiece doesn't have to be done up tightly because the jowl strap keeps the nose from sliding. The rings are set farther forward than a halter which gives a clear signal from the side for the horse to turn. We start all our young horses in them. Liz Graves also makes one that some people on the list use. >>She has a whip in her left hand. How is she using that? She uses it to just touch the horse on the shoulder or hindquarters - to move forward or to bring it forward and touch him on the chest to stop. The idea is just to give more than one signal and one that can then be used from the horse's back. She will also use it in her right hand from the left side. The horses are not, and must not be, afraid of the whip the way we use it. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] another young horse
Robyn: I am interested to know what Njorthur has on his head and how it works. She has a whip in her left hand. How is she using that? Annie
Re: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
On Dec 29, 2007 4:48 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I realize that I haven't sent any pictures of my little eye-candy boy, Isak, > lately. He's about 19 months old now. That's daddy's head on mama's body. > What a sweetheart! V
Re: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
>>I'm fairly certain Sophie is from a puppy mill. I'm checking into it. It shouldn't take four baths to make her smell like a puppy again. That was one of the reasons I just couldn't let her go back to the breeder. She stunk :) Poor thing. Her new home must feel like heaven. Glad she found her forever home. <;p] Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
[IceHorses] Re: Njorthur again
Nancy: I have at least 20 Icelandic riders I have sold Sensations to in the past 2 years that are close to your weight. Many ride longer distances. With appropriate padding, they seem to do quite well. If you want to contact me off list perhaps a few of them would be willing to speak with you about their experiences. I know Susan Cooper rides her TWH in a Sensation /is about your weight & does distance riding as well. Maybe she can weigh in on her experiences. I too was skeptical about "treeless", but the Sensation really does offer better weight distribution because of the interior construction & multi point rigging that most other treeless saddles & believe me, I have tried them all both with myself & my group of 30 riders out here. There are even several equine chiropractors that rec. the Sensation for appropriately built horses with riders under 200lbs. Kaaren
[IceHorses] books a million
today at books a million i was browsing and came back to the coffee area to find my husband reading one of those ENcyclopedia of the Horse or Horse Encyclopedia books, you know the kind, there are millions I think, all of them so bland and generic. But he was reading the part about icelandics and going wow, hmm, gosh why didnt they mention any of this in that horse illustrated article, all it had was the same old same ol junk they all say but this one... and he let me look at it and I was amazed. It talked about how some horses were bred in certain areas for meat, for racing, for show, for draft. It named studs that are allowed to roam free and breed for draft. And that these are where the very heavy cannon bone icelandics are generally from, actually named the geographic areas. actually named studs used to breed for draft cannon bone density, for race, for meat. Then it said they only come in certain colors, didnt even name SD which was interesting and said "chestnut with flaxen mane very rarely have manes and tails as dark as the body color it is always much lighter". stuff like that that i have NEVER heard. About gait it seemed to stress the four gaits as the three usual and PACE and THEN said "some have an extra gait, the tolt, which is what they call a rack in the US." verry interesting!! I almost wanted to contact the book and find out who wrote the article because it very obviously came from a different source than the ones who have been contributing to icelandic articles for the last ten years at least. oh! It said they are never over 14.2 hh. NEVER. it said. usually 12.2 to 14 it said. and for a pic it had a horse looked exactly like Tivar, who donny has started calling "Digger" since he has made a new hole about four feet deep by his water trough. DOnny said "if I was nasi I would be nervous if my paddock mate started digging a hole that big, its almost a nasi size hole." and i was think maybe teev is a HOLER graduate ar ar. anyway. I couldnt buy the book it was forty bucks. but it was refreshing. it seemed to have originated with input from breeders in iceland and not people here where for some reason some sort of erroneous info culture started and took hold i think Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] OT - choices
I already know piano, and used to have quite an operatic career...can still sing, but really MISS playing an instrument. I used to play cello ages ago, but I was in 3rd and 4th grade and although district principal begged me not to quit, I was very petite and tired of lugging the cello around. Obviously - not an issue anymore. I love the sound of all three instruments equallyI am wondering, however, if I didn't quite do well with guitar, banjo may be out? Raven - how were your vocal cords damaged? BTW...I loved the link to your albums of your family and grandpa. My other thought for a task to start this year was to start law school and be an animal rights lawyer (NOT for the PETA types) to prosecute animal cruelty and neglect cases. Mary
RE: [IceHorses] Starting young horses
Hi Raven, Oh yes we have snow as you will see in photos. Mandy is in Modesto, California Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
On 29/12/2007, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I realize that I haven't sent any pictures of my little eye-candy boy, Isak, > lately. He's about 19 months old now. That's daddy's head on mama's body. Man...Karen...I wish you would quit sending in pics of those poor ugly babies of yours. There ought to be some sort of law;) Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Njorthur again
On 29/12/2007, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mandy is doing a bit of one-line work to teach him to move away from the > handler but learn to keep a light contact on the line. The line used is > very light. You know...I could watch Mandy train horses all day. I remember her teaching a little imported gelding called Gloi how to jump. Fascinating... Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] OT - choices
>>who sings to/with a cello?<< I have seen and heard many a people sing with a cello Mary
Re: [IceHorses] Starting young horses
Robyn...you don't have any snow on the ground? How cold does it get in your area? Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] another young horse
Very pretty boy. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] OT - choices
Cello..only because I have always wanted to learn to play a violin. Are you thinking of taking up a musical instrument? I would also enjoy learning to play a piano. I would also like to be able to sing again, but since my vocal cords were damaged that will never happen again. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
He's adorable! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
On 29/12/2007, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've heard she really likes Sensations. Believes they are the only > option for some of our short-backed WIDE (sorry...some puppy paws hit send)... She believes they are the only option for our short-backed, wide, low withered Icelandics. I know the Sensation saddle has been a God send here. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
On 29/12/2007, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So if I had a clinic with her in Vernon, would you make the drive?? I > really wanted to have her here but just didn't get any response and had to > cancel. Mandy is going to be up here for the summer and I am sure she would > like to learn from her as well. I'd love to make the drive buy I would probably want to dove-tail it to one of your centered riding clinics. I think I make have Kevin interested in taking a clinic, probably not this year, but next year. The guy hosting the clinic by Regina has Missouri Fox Trotters. Doesn't that sound interesting. > My only concern is that I have heard that she really doesn't like treeless > saddles - was that any problem Karen??? I've heard she really likes Sensations. Believes they are the only option for some of our short-backed WIDE > Also how much riding is involved? Do all participants ride once a day? > > Robyn > > Icelandic Horse Farm > Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty > Vernon BC Canada > www.icefarm.com > > > > > > > > > IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses > > "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, > contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and > unrealistic." > > "All truth passes through three stages. > First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. > Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer > > > [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com > [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com > [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo > [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- Wanda Saskatchewan Canada
Re: [IceHorses] Njorthur again
> I just got my new G4 Dressage saddle and hope to ride in it tomorrow. > Will you let us know how you like the G4? It looks wonderful. I really need to anti up and buy a saddle for the Icelandics, but am really struggling with input that is poles apart. I ride longer (up to 30 miles) distances and I weigh 160 lbs. I'm worried about the treeless saddles. My favorites have been a Steubben Siegfied and the current Tucker endurance equitation. The Siegfried actually fits the Icelandics pretty well, but it is ancient and I wouldn't trust the tree anymore - it's been in a few wrecks. My own tree isn't in much better shape since in most cases, I was in the same wrecks. The Tucker is too long and probably will not be wide enough. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
On 29/12/2007, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the part that gets old - at least to me - is that a few people (one > person in particular) are so darned quick to lecture the rest of us on the > list. Man, if Wanda wants - no NEEDS - a funky faux fur lined hat to make it > through her winters on the frigid tundra, by golly, all I can say is more > power to her. I know Wanda has done her debt to the animals of the world by > taking on a few rescue horses. And one rescue puppy. I'm fairly certain Sophie is from a puppy mill. I'm checking into it. It shouldn't take four baths to make her smell like a puppy again. That was one of the reasons I just couldn't let her go back to the breeder. She stunk :) Wanda with a tiny Sophie baby chewing my foot as we speak
RE: [IceHorses] Njorthur again
Hi Nancy The saddle is a Sensation dressage. These were taken in Modesto in the middle of December. I just got my new G4 Dressage saddle and hope to ride in it tomorrow. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] Njorthur again
Wonderful pictures. What saddle is this? Were these taken recently? It's hard to imagine any place where it is dry enough to work outdoors. We get so little done in December and January. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
Hi Karen, >>>Not at all! I remember when someone falsely reported that to the list, and it's not true. Thanks for that - that is why I asked. >>>Liz is passionate that tack fit the horses and be appropriate to the horse and to the rider...but beyond that, she really isn't particular about what kind of saddle you prefer - western or English, I feel the same way so that is great. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
RE: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
>>> My only concern is that I have heard that she really doesn't like treeless saddles - was that any problem Karen??? Not at all! I remember when someone falsely reported that to the list, and it's not true. Liz is passionate that tack fit the horses and be appropriate to the horse and to the rider...but beyond that, she really isn't particular about what kind of saddle you prefer - western or English, treed or treeless. And she's certainly not a snob - if you have an inexpensive saddle that works, that's fine too. I could see her questioning some particular treeless saddle on some particular rider, or maybe on some particular horse, but she'd be equally cautious about a poorly fitting treed saddle. Basically though, at the clinics I've been too, she quickly discusses saddle fit, but she wouldn't necessarily even look at the saddle (or the bit) unless she could see that something was wrong with the horse. I've heard her say outright at least a couple of times that treeless saddles may sometimes be about the only answer for some really wide, short-backed Icelandic's. She's pretty sold on Sensations. I know she's seen plenty of Sensations too - four or five of the horses at each of the clinics she's done for me have been ridden in them. Even big old Cary rode one on Skjoni... Her comment about Skjoni and Cary is that they are a happy pair, and Skjoni has a good bit of "self-carriage" at gait, so you can't argue with results like that. (Cary is still gloating over that comment.) >>> Also how much riding is involved? Do all participants ride once a day? I'd feel sure that might be up to the clinician and the host to decide, but generally, her formats are such that they are split between lecture, demonstrations and riding, so neither you or your horse have to be in tip-top shape to ride in one. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
> Vernon is in British Columbia about 5 hours east of Vancouver (the west > coast) and 2 1/2 hours north of the US border - about 6 hours drive from > Spokane. Probably a little far for you but you could ride one of our > horses. Oh, too bad, I was hoping you were over near Vancouver, which isn't too bad a drive for us. If anyone hears of a Liz Graves clinic in Oregon will you let me know. I'd say Northern California, but that actually can be quite a drive from here too. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] Lip Measurement
Hi Nancy >>We never could figure out how those slots were supposed to be used with any degree of comfort or effectiveness, finally attaching the headstall and reins without using them. I did the same thing with the slotted bits. Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
>> My Kitchi came from a puppy mill. She and her sister were supposed to be the private dogs of the owners. Ann. what a beautiful girl!! >> were either tied up or caged all the time How awful. I'm glad that Kitchi found a forever home with you. I read in your article that Tasha is in Mpls. That's about one hour from me. Thanks for sharing her story with me. >>Did you know there are dog auctions in Kansas? Perhaps other states too. Yes...IMHO...just awful. MO, PA and OH are some of the other states where puppy mill breeders...USDA Class A hold auctions. Animals at these auction are sold to other Class A breeders, but also to Class B brokers. I am sure there are more out there. For those who do not know about thisClass A are breeders. Class B are brokers who buy dogs from Class A breeders, but they also buy from backyard breeders, dog shelters/pounds, newspapers ads, flea markets and then they resell the animals. They are also known to take animals from "For Free" ads and resell the dogs to research institutions or veterinary schools. Don't even get me started on this topic. This year HBO presented an excellent film called "Dealing Dogs, the Betrayal of Man's Best Friend". It focuses on Class B dealers. I highly recommend it. http://tinyurl.com/e9kmv Yes, I am a animal advocate. BTW...I do have my flame suit on. "Society is judged by how they treat their most vulnerable; children and animals" Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
RE: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
Hi Nancy Vernon is in British Columbia about 5 hours east of Vancouver (the west coast) and 2 1/2 hours north of the US border - about 6 hours drive from Spokane. Probably a little far for you but you could ride one of our horses. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
Now that is a cute little boy! And, finally, one with a coat. I've been meaning to ask Wanda how here, pictured in the snow, have less coat than mine down here in rainly muddy Southern Oregon. Bev clipped a bridle path on Tosca so she could get a headstall on her. Yrsa looks like a stuffed toy. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Lip Measurement
. We don't use many of them, only the comfort snaffle without the slots. We never could figure out how those slots were supposed to be used with any degree of comfort or effectiveness, finally attaching the headstall and reins without using them. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
> So if I had a clinic with her in Vernon ... Robyn, Where is Vernon? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] OT question about clothes
No, but I have a wonderful one my daughter made for me. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] My little wooly yak
Hi Karen He is definitely eye-candy Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
RE: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
>>> It's amazing to me how so many people have no clue about puppy mills. But on THIS list...? I really suspect this list knows - I have full confidence that we are a list of aware and caring animal lovers. I'm pretty sure that my Frank was a puppy mill puppy - he was a throw-away at 10 weeks. I've talked about how all of my current dogs - Simon, Connie, Betty Sue and Frank were all either rescues or throwaways, and all are wonderful dogs. I think the part that gets old - at least to me - is that a few people (one person in particular) are so darned quick to lecture the rest of us on the list. Man, if Wanda wants - no NEEDS - a funky faux fur lined hat to make it through her winters on the frigid tundra, by golly, all I can say is more power to her. I know Wanda has done her debt to the animals of the world by taking on a few rescue horses. Stay warm, Wanda! Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM
Re: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
>> It's amazing to me how so many people have no clue about puppy mills. My educated brother in law who did get his Shiz Tsu from the pound was telling me that I could get pure bred dogs like Yorkies from the Amish for about $125. The Lancaster County is the capital of Pennsylvania puppy mills, over 200 kennels alone. How so very sad what some humans are willing to do to animals. Just breaks my heart. >> These type stories don't hit the airwaves very often and lots of people miss the stories Yes...this is true. Unless you are actively working with dog rescue or animal welfare, you may not be aware. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
RE: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
Hi Raven, >>>What I am saying is that one should be aware that clothing, toys, and other items labeled as Faux Fur may not be that. Yes I can remember that in the news - when a lot of the problems with items made in China were coming out. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
>> still say it is an Urban Ledgend, or else it would make REAL news. Hi Susan, It did make the REAL news. That's how I learned about the fur trade in China. What I am saying is that one should be aware that clothing, toys, and other items labeled as Faux Fur may not be that. WTOC - Savannah, GA http://tinyurl.com/2adfyk Consumer Affairs http://tinyurl.com/35dxeq MSNBC http://tinyurl.com/25dvvm BBC News http://tinyurl.com/2cth4t ABC News http://tinyurl.com/claq6 FOX News http://tinyurl.com/27h5l9 KNBC News LA, CA http://tinyurl.com/ysqzg4 CBC News http://tinyurl.com/2d7x6y Honolulu Advertiser http://tinyurl.com/33nvp8 Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
On 12/29/07, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I still say it is > an Urban Ledgend, or else it would make REAL news. I definitely remember hearing these stories over the past few years, mainly news type shows, 20/20, 60 minutes. One of the things in particular they were doing is making toy/statues of dogs, cats etc. and using cat and dog fur. I'm not sure that this was only china, but mexico and other countries. I do remember them talking about faux fur on coats sometimes not being fake. When buying coats etc. I do try to stay away from fur looking trim or lining because I don't want to look like I am wearing fur and I'll never be sure that it isn't some type of animal fur. When I was looking at some coats last week the fur trim on a hood was shedding like real fur, but didn't look to see what it was listed as. It was a down type coat on sale for $50 at Macy. Passed it by. I'll buy leather and suede, but not fur. It's amazing to me how so many people have no clue about puppy mills. My educated brother in law who did get his Shiz Tsu from the pound was telling me that I could get pure bred dogs like Yorkies from the Amish for about $125. The Amish had just built his garage. When I told him that more than likely they were puppy mills, he had no clue about puppy mills in Ohio. I sent him links from our local dog rescue organization. These type stories don't hit the airwaves very often and lots of people miss the stories. -- Anna Southern Ohio
[IceHorses] Chill Out on Hoof Care Concerns
Here's a link to a winter hoof care article. Me, I've been waiting for my trimmer to show up to trim my ponies. He's canceled twice on me; first time he had the flu and last time...it's was snowing pretty hard and the roads were bad. I have an appointment on Monday, hope he shows up. HA! Now, if someone could develop a great anti-snowball product...that would be great. Chill Out on Hoof Care Concerns http://tinyurl.com/2fvvlp Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
RE: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
Hi Susan, >>>She does like the Sensation, and thought it was a good saddle for Whisper and I, even for endurance. Thanks for that. I don't think that all treeless saddles should be judged the same, which is the same with for treed saddles - which I would guess she would agree as everything I have seen from her is very sensible. Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
RE: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
--- Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My only concern is that I have heard that she really > doesn't like treeless > saddles<< She does like the Sensation, and thought it was a good saddle for Whisper and I, even for endurance. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Disclaimer CAUTION: DO NOT DRIVE WITH HOT COFFEE IN YOUR LAP Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
RE: [IceHorses] Lip Measurement
Hi Karen, >>The Myler snaffles certainly seem benign, but they do make some pretty nasty-looking bits too. They certainly do make some that are potentially very severe. I have quite a few different Mylers that I bought when the Myler brothers were still making them. We don't use many of them, only the comfort snaffle without the slots. As soon as the headstall or reins are attached to the slots you add pressure to the poll. You also have to be a bit careful with the width of the Mylers because of the way they are shaped and not get them too narrow. We generally use 5" Mylers but my favorite is a 4 3/4" that they no longer make. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
RE: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
Hi Wanda, >>>It looks as though Kevin and I are registered as auditors for the Liz Graves clinic coming up near Regina Saskatchewan in August. There is also one in Duncan BC, but that's a little too far for us to drive. So if I had a clinic with her in Vernon, would you make the drive?? I really wanted to have her here but just didn't get any response and had to cancel. Mandy is going to be up here for the summer and I am sure she would like to learn from her as well. My only concern is that I have heard that she really doesn't like treeless saddles - was that any problem Karen??? Also how much riding is involved? Do all participants ride once a day? Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
--- Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > McCartney attacks China over fur > http://tinyurl.com/exmyw << 2005 article, rather out of date. Sir Paul and Heather were still together. Besides, they are not a source for facts. > > Dog and Cat Victims of the Fur Trade > http://tinyurl.com/3yd47y > > China's Shocking Dog and Cat Fur Trade > http://tinyurl.com/dqyfx > > Chinese Dog Fur Industry > http://tinyurl.com/yv5o7p > Those are are done by orginizations that make money by puttting out outrageous accusations. PITA used to try to ban people from fishing, for goodness sakes, so they are not a source for REAL facts. When I was showing dogs on the East Coast, they were known to show up at a dog show and release dogs from their crates. Nice people! Sorry, Raven, I still say it is an Urban Ledgend, or else it would make REAL news. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Disclaimer CAUTION: DO NOT DRIVE WITH HOT COFFEE IN YOUR LAP Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
RE: [IceHorses] bit was Lip Measurement
Hi Karen >>I used a French link (peanut center) bit on him, or a mullen mouth Tom Thumb snaffle, What is a mullen mouth Tom Thumb snaffle? Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
[IceHorses] OT question about clothes
Does anyone know where I can order or buy a horse print fleece vest? I didn't find any on Ebay. Thanks. Lorraine Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] OT - choices
> 1) cello > 2) harp > 3) banjo Cello for me Lorraine Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[IceHorses] OT - New Years Breakfast
If anyone on the list lives near the Raleigh/Durham, NC area, I am having a New Years Day breakfast at my place at noon on Tuesday (well 12:30pm really). Blackeyed peas, eggs, bacon, toast coffee and mimosas! I'd love to meet you. If you'd like to come, please email me privately. Bia
Re: [IceHorses] OT - choices
> 1) cello > 2) harp > 3) banjo banjo why? who sings to/with a cello? penny
RE: [IceHorses] Warning
>when an adult bird really >really loves you he will regurgitate food on you to show he cares. This is very true...my grey has always 'held' my pinkie finger in her mouth, and made little cooing noises, then will let it go and start to regurgitate (thank goodness she lets it go)...I am told I should be flattered...been 4 years and I am still not at that point! Mary
RE: [IceHorses] OT - olympics in Canada
OMG...I am sitting here in a quiet house LAUGHING MY A$$ off and the dogs/cats are looking at me like I have 5 heads! Now the parrots are chuckling in the other room, too. Thank you SO MUCH, Mic...that was wonderful! Mary
Re: [IceHorses] OT - olympics in Canada
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 09:22:26AM +, Mic Rushen wrote: > Now that Vancouver has won the chance to host the 2010 Winter > Olympics, > these are some questions people from all over the world are asking. > Believe > it or not these questions about Canada were posted on an International > Tourism Website. *rofl* reminds me of that contest. "as canadian as..." "...possible, given the circumstances." --vicka (five hours south of montreal, formerly three hours south of vancouver :)
Re: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
>> Sounds like that old Urban Legend about Hardee's Hamburgers being Kangaroo meat. Bunch of bull McCartney attacks China over fur http://tinyurl.com/exmyw Dog and Cat Victims of the Fur Trade http://tinyurl.com/3yd47y China's Shocking Dog and Cat Fur Trade http://tinyurl.com/dqyfx Chinese Dog Fur Industry http://tinyurl.com/yv5o7p The HSUS discovered again this winter that many leading retailers -- including Bloomingdale's, Neiman Marcus, Lord & Taylor, Dillard's, Saks Fifth Avenue and Yoox.com -- have not addressed this consumer deception. Certain jackets sold by these companies with the brand names Burberry, Andrew Marc, Marc New York, Preston & York, Aqua, Ramosport and Adam+Eve were found to be falsely advertised or mislabeled as faux fur or "ecological fur" when in fact they are trimmed with real animal fur. "Shoppers should be outraged that companies continue to sell as 'faux' what is actually real fur, perhaps from animals skinned alive in China," said Kristin Leppert, director of The HSUS' fur-free campaign. "Congress and the Federal Trade Commission need to take swift action to protect consumers and animals." http://tinyurl.com/2zgj5h Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
RE: [IceHorses] OT - choices
Hi >>Banjo - more portable and more "fun". That is what I would say as well - that is IF I could sing. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
[IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
Hi All: It looks as though Kevin and I are registered as auditors for the Liz Graves clinic coming up near Regina Saskatchewan in August. There is also one in Duncan BC, but that's a little too far for us to drive. -- Wanda Saskatchewan Canada
Re: [IceHorses] OT - choices
On Dec 29, 2007 12:28 AM, Mary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you HAD to choose between one instrument to play (and sing), which would > it be: > 1) cello > 2) harp > 3) banjo Cello. Only because it's closest to a violin which I wanted to learn ever since I was a kid. Some day V
Re: [IceHorses] OT - olympics in Canada
On Dec 29, 2007 5:22 AM, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that Vancouver has won the chance to host the 2010 Winter > Olympics, > these are some questions people from all over the world are asking. > Believe > it or not these questions about Canada were posted on an International > Tourism Website. > LOL! That's hysterical! V
RE: [IceHorses] Lip Measurement
I absolutely love the look of the Myler. So far, none of my horses has agreed. I know they got a lot of publicity for a while, so I thought my horses must be odd that none seemed especially enamored of them. Finally, though I am able to use this bit I've had for a long time for Runa. I have never really seen anything wrong with them, but MOST of my horses seemed just as happy, or even happier, with a plain ol' stainless steel d-ring French link that most tack stores carry for half the price of the Mylers. I first tried a d-ring French link on Sina, who has a very small (narrow) mouth. I got it simply because it was the mildest bit I could find in the pony section of the local tack store in the 4.25" that she needs. I still use that bit for her. I will warn people though - be careful before you introduce any horse to a Happy Mouth bit - a few seem to become attached to them, and don't want anything else...not a problem really, except that the soft mouth pieces of the Happy Mouths mean they usually have to be replaced every year or two - or more often, if you have a horse with an oral fixation. Eitill came here with his Happy Mouth addiction in place, and he had to have a couple of replacements in the two years I had him. Without thinking, I offered his bit to Melnir one day...and Melnir became immediately addicted too. Oh well, I can think of worse things to happen to a horse. :) When I use the Happy Mouths, I buy the ones with the three-piece mouths. The Myler snaffles certainly seem benign, but they do make some pretty nasty-looking bits too. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM
Re: [IceHorses] OT - choices
I have always wanted to play the banjo. I even bought one once, but lessons would have been a necessity. Now I have a mandolin I'm trying to teach myself to play. I can play the guitar, so it's not that much of a stretch. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] OT - olympics in Canada
On 29/12/2007, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that Vancouver has won the chance to host the 2010 Winter > Olympics, > these are some questions people from all over the world are asking. > Believe > it or not these questions about Canada were posted on an International > Tourism Website. Ha...Ha...Love it. I know just who to forward that to. Thanks Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] OT Wanda's Hat
>>> wandai'm not trying to rain on you parade. an educated consumer ..can make wiser buying choices. geez..lousie, chill. Raven "Educated consumers", heh? Is THAT what you called it a couple of weeks ago when you implied that KY is full of racists and is a bad place to live? There's a BIG difference between being an "educated consumer" and an alarmist who delights in seeking out the freaky and obscure to worry about. Gosh, you send in links to some of the most bizarre videos and stories I've seen to the point that I don't even look at the ones you send any more. I'm all for being an "educated consumer" and I'm all for fighting for valid causes, but after a point, obsessing over EVERY possible injustice in the world - real, exaggerated, or downright untrue - makes people so weary they can't focus on REAL issues that are closer to their lives. I'm not even going to investigate this dog fur thing you brought up - maybe this one is valid, but I don't have the energy to pursue everything you dredge up. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM
[IceHorses] OT - olympics in Canada
Now that Vancouver has won the chance to host the 2010 Winter Olympics, these are some questions people from all over the world are asking. Believe it or not these questions about Canada were posted on an International Tourism Website. Q:I have never seen it warm on Canadian TV, so how do the plants grow?( England ) A. We import all plants fully grown and then just sit around and watch them die. Q:Will I be able to see Polar Bears in the street? ( USA ) A: Depends on how much you've been drinking. Q:I want to walk from Vancouver to Toronto -can I follow the Railroad tracks? ( Sweden ) A: Sure, it's only Four thousand miles, take lots of water. Q:Is it safe to run around in the bushes in Canada ? ( Sweden ) A: So it's true what they say about Swedes. Q: Are there any ATM's (cash machines) in Canada ? Can you send me a list of them in Toronto , Vancouver , Edmonton and Halifax ? ( England ) A: What, did your last slave die? Q:Can you give me some information about hippo racing in Canada ? ( USA ) A: A-fri-ca is the big triangle shaped continent south of Europe .. Ca-na-da is that big country to your North...oh forget it. Sure, the hippo racing is every Tuesday night in Calgary . Come naked. Q:Which direction is North in Canada ? ( USA ) A: Face south and then turn 180 degrees Contact us when you get here and we'll send the rest of the directions. Q: Can I bring cutlery into Canada ?( England ) A: Why? Just use your fingers like we do. Q: Can you send me the Vienna Boys' Choir schedule? ( USA ) A: Aus-t ri-a is that quaint little country bordering Ger-man-y, which is...oh forget it. Sure, the Vienna Boys Choir plays every Tuesday night in Vancouver and in Calgary , straight after the hippo races. Come naked. Q: Do you have perfume in Canada ? ( Germany ) A: No, WE don't stink. Q: I have developed a new product that is the fountain of youth. Where can I sell it in Canada ?( USA ) A: Anywhere significant numbers of Americans gather. Q: Can you tell me the regions in British Columbia where the female population is smaller than the male population? ( Italy ) A: Yes, gay nightclubs. Q: Do you celebrate Thanksgiving in Canada ? ( USA ) A: Only at Thanksgiving. Q: Are there supermarkets in Toronto and is milk available all year round?( Germany ) A: No, we are a peaceful civilization of Vegan hunter/gathers. Milk is illegal. Q: I have a question about a famous animal in Canada , but I forget its name. It's a kind of big horse with horns. ( USA ) A: It's called a Moose. They are tall and very violent, eating the brains of anyone walking close to them. You can scare them off by spraying yourself with human urine before you go out walking. Q: Will I be able to speak English most places I go? ( USA ) A: Yes, but you will have to learn it first. Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
Re: [IceHorses] OT - choices
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:24:59 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Banjo - more portable Not necessarily, lap harps are just as portable. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
Re: [IceHorses] OT - choices
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:28:11 -0800, you wrote: > 2) harp Harp, every time. Bitch to learn to play, though, especially with arthritic thumbs. (I know, I have one...one harp that is - I have TWO arthritic thumbs) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
Re: [IceHorses] Warning
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:01:26 -0600, you wrote: >when an adult bird really >really loves you he will regurgitate food on you to show he cares. >they will also masturbate when you come into the room sometimes Gosh. That really makes me want to go and get a parrot. Not. ; )) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Example of Whisper's Personality
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:28:15 -0800, you wrote: > I rescued another >Mexican Boa, Sabrina from the same pet store. You could not have had two >more different creatures. I had almost exactly the same experience - my first Boa Gilbert was a sweetie, very affectionate, he would curl up with me wherever I went and actually really liked the cats and the one-winged road casualty tawny owl I had at the time. Then the next one I had was satan spawn, really evil. He had to be fed with tongs or he would bite me every time, yet he loved men. Snakes can be weird. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
