Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:15:41 -0400, you wrote: I have always thought of bays as some sort of shade of darker brown with black points.Sure looks like she's going to be the color of her Momma. What's her Mother's color called? Bay dun! ; ) If you think about it, bay is a modifier of black which makes the body more brown but leaves the points black. Dun is modifier (of any colour) which lightens the body too - so on a bay dun, you get a very light body and darker points. Vijola (and her baby) are both quite pale bay duns (would probably have been light bays, if they didn't have the dun as well). The baby is by a dun daddy, so could well be homozygous dun (ie will always have dun offspring). I've noticed homozygous duns often seem to be lighter than heterozygous duns. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
Re: [IceHorses] Six More Toes
On Sun, 4 May 2008 22:57:38 -0700, you wrote: Our daughter has only six more toe operations to complete the requirements for her surgical residency Wow. How many toes was she born with??? ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:15:41 -0400, you wrote: If you think about it, bay is a modifier of black which makes the body more brown but leaves the points black. . . . See, that's just it -- I don't know all these ins and outs of equine color genetics. I just go by what see with my eyes. Dun is modifier (of any colour) which lightens the body too - so on a bay dun, you get a very light body and darker points. Okaaa. . . . .I think they'd both more correctly be called taupe. : ) -- Renee M. in Michigan
Re: [IceHorses] Whisper This
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a different book by Smokie Brannaman; click onto the search inside this book link to read a few pages: http://www.amazon.com/Whisper-This-your-horse-yourself/dp/0979144604 Judy, Did you think you would like this book? I went to the Amazon site and poked around, reading the excerpts, etc. and frankly. . . . I was turned off. I found his writing style coarse and unappealing, and I'm not sure I agree with most of what he was saying in these few passages.At any rate, I don't think I'd buy this book. I'll be curious to read what everyone gets from it, or thinks. -- Renee M. in Michigan P.S. Is this guy any relation to Buck Brannaman?
[IceHorses] Re: Whisper This
This is a different book by Smokie Brannaman; click onto the search inside this book link to read a few pages: http://www.amazon.com/Whisper-This-your-horse-yourself/dp/0979144604 I'll be curious to read what everyone gets from it, or thinks. -- Renee M. in Michigan I read a bit and was turned off too. I got the impression that he didn't like horses much and people less. I really want to read how to be successful not how hard it is to get anything right at all. He obviously hasn't met any ponies like my two angels ;D or people like us. Sue Coombes
Re: [IceHorses] Geese
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they usually hide the nest good. and if they leave it for a break, they cover it in leaves and dirt. Well, I hope it's a nest that is keeping it away. I'll keep my eye out. V
Re: [IceHorses] Janice's Grandbaby!
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janice's grandbaby pictured here: http://www.buzzincelebritygossip.co.uk/files/2008/05/baby-costumes_kf_lips.jpg Love it! LOL V
[IceHorses] Pigeons in barn rafters
Our pasture is slowly drying up and we should be able to string our electric wire soon. The posts need more dirt compacting as big water holes appeared around them after the snow melted. We had originally planned to set stalls up in our big garage but hubby has decided to use it for his tractor and work materials/machinery, so that left the option of building a run-in or using the 'barn'we finally decided upon fencing in the barn with an attached pen and using the structure as a huge run-in until we're ready to close it in.. The barn rafters are home to pigeons and I'm wondering if I should leave them be or move them out. V
Re: [IceHorses] Found A Snake
Here's a picture of it's markings. Any guess? It is kind of pretty. I have a book on snakes. I will look. Carol is looking at Dagur tomorrow. Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Look what I did find in the snow
This is my mare Pera turning 4 yo and her unexpected son! Had a clue that it was a foal on the way but when? father?. Oh how cutie patutie. Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
Vijola (and her baby) are both quite pale bay duns (would probably have been light bays, if they didn't have the dun as well). The baby is by a dun daddy, so could well be homozygous dun (ie will always have dun offspring). I've noticed homozygous duns often seem to be lighter than heterozygous duns. Interesting. Bay duns seem pretty common in Icelandics, but I haven't seen one as light as that mom, not that I remember. I guess the ones I've seen may have been heterogyguous.Loftur is bay dun, and so is Anneliese's old stallion, Landi. Trausti too. I wonder why duns (all colors) are so common in Icelandic's but so rare (non-existent) in so many breeds...? Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
Interesting. Bay duns seem pretty common in Icelandics, but I haven't seen one as light as that mom, not that I remember. Oops, forgot to askhas the mom shed out her winter coat completely, or is that making her look lighter than normal? Some of mine are almost completely shed, while some are just starting. Most are in the middle - partly-to-mostly shed, but not completely. (Flekka has been slick for about a month - but then, she's been cooking a baby, so many her internal thermostat was a factor...?) Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Six More Toes
is she a toe specialist?? Why couldnt she be something useful like a plastic surgeon or bladder control specialist. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Six More Toes
Congratulations! General surgery or orthopedic? Where is she doing her residency? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Six More Toes
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our daughter has only six more toe operations to complete the requirements for her surgical residency (over 500+ operations). She graduates in June. Judy Mother of the Surgeon Congratulations - I know you're proud. My girls continue to amaze me about what neat people they've turned out to be. It's a nice feeling -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] Six More Toes
2008/5/5 Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]: is she a toe specialist?? Why couldnt she be something useful like a plastic surgeon or bladder control specialist. Or a stomach stapler specialist? Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Liablity...
It says it doesn't cover people who breed, board, train or give lessons. We don't board, train (except our own) and I don't give lessons, but I suppose that breeding even a few foals every few years disqualifies us. Do you know, Laree? It is my understanding that if you are engaging in an activity that would be termed a business activity - such as teaching a lesson, then you are not covered during that lesson time but if you are on a trail ride, riding your own horse and a friend is also riding one of your horses (not paying you a fee for it) and that friend gets injured, then you are covered. I will get clarification for you... I think the breeding issue comes into it if you are earning your living breeding horses - not just doing a little hobby breeding - which you would described as doing. -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] Helping a horse overcome it's fears
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 3:21 PM, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally got my 74yo mother to become more than a passenger on her Spotted Saddle Horse, Fireman. Susan - great video - please tell your mom she is an inspiration. At 57 I worry sometimes about how many more years I will have in the saddle and then I see folks like your mom and I know that's a silly worry - there are still many more good riding years left. It's really nice that the two of you have that to share, also. -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] Six More Toes
Very cool!! She's gonna be a ToeDoc! When my doctor daughter gets patients with toe complaintsshe can refer them to your daughter. ;p] Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Six More Toes
Or a stomach stapler specialist? i know there has to be SOMETHING in it for our age group... my daughter is a nurse tho, a cardiac nurse. One time I had the coughing flu so bad I drove myself to the ER thinking I had pneumonia. my husband was out of town. He called my daughter who lived across town at that time and said will you go check on your mother and nurse her? She is real sick. my daughter came in slamming pill bottles around on the counter. Why arent you taking this?! she growled, snatching the pepsi from my hand and pouring it down the sink with a sneer, jamming a bottle of water in my hand with a scowl, tapping her toe like nurse ratchet with hands on her hips. I said man, are you this mean to your patients? and she said her patients were nicer than me! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
i too. I wonder why duns (all colors) are so common in Icelandic's but so rare (non-existent) in so many breeds...? yeah, especially since it is a primitive marking going back to zebras and donkeys. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
yeah, especially since it is a primitive marking going back to zebras and donkeys. and also interesting because arab is supposed to be the first breed right? arab blood is supposed to be in every breed there is. and NO arabs are dun. Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Janice's Aunt
And here's a pic of Janice's uncle. Wanda -- Thoughts become things... attachment: Janice's uncle.jpg
Re: [IceHorses] Helping a horse overcome it's fears/Nancy
Thank you so much, Susan. It's perfect. Your mom is lovely. I am trying to give up coloring my hair. I don't think it's as pretty as heres, but maybe someday. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Whisper This
http://www.amazon.com/Whisper-This-your-horse-yourself/dp/0979144604 Did you think you would like this book? No, that's why I said this is a different book... altho I probably should have highlighted different. Yes, he is Buck's brother. Here is an excerpt from Buck's book, Faraway Horses: The Faraway Horses By Buck Brannaman with William Reynolds FOREWORD http://www.dailylit.com/books/faraway-horses/foreword INTRODUCTION THE STORIES IN THIS BOOK are scenes from the private movie of my life. They have helped me understand the big picture, and they have influenced directions I've taken since the events happened. In many ways they have affected the way I work with certain horses. I know they have influenced me in the way I deal with people, but horses have always meant a certain level of consistency in my life. They respond with all their being. All they know is honesty. On my way to a horsemanship clinic I was putting on in Ellensburg, Washington, I decided to make a little detour through Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. It's a peaceful town, and its beauty is magnetic. I can see why so many people have come here to retire. I sat looking out my truck window, with my horses standing quietly in my trailer, at the old house at 3219 North Fourth Street. That's where my older brother, Smokie, and I lived with our mom and dad for a few years in the mid-1960s. Seeing it more than thirty years later brought back a flood of memories. The shed, not much more than an overhang to the back of the house, made me think of milking cows there, and how, in the eyes of a kid just four feet tall, that pitiful little shed seemed like a huge barn. When I saw the basement window, I remembered struggling to drag a hose through it so I could water our horses, cows, and pigs, and how more often than not that hose would hang up at the hose joint a few feet short of the stock tank. The yard was where Smokie and I learned to ride and spin a rope, little knowing we would soon be performing on TV and at rodeos and fairs around the country as The Idaho Cowboys, Buckshot and Smokie, from Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. The number on that beat-up old mailbox stared back at me: 3219. I was tempted to knock on the door to see who lives there, and maybe walk around a little. So many memories. So many times the ambulance would arrive at the house to collect my mom because she was having a diabetic reaction. And so many times our neighbors would call the sheriff because old man Brannaman was working his kids over again. But today, I'm no longer afraid, not even of the memories. In a strange, almost melancholic way, it felt good to be here. Who would have thought that one of those Idaho Cowboys would grow up and have the joy of working with so many people and their horses, trying to help create relationships based on trust? It's ironic. Trust was something I had in short supply as a youngster. Ride with me now, and I'll tell you some of what's happened along the way. It's been kind of bumpy, but well worth the trip. Things are so good for me now due, in large part, to my wife, Mary. It is to her, to my family, and to the Horse that I dedicate not only this book, but my life. Thank you for your interest, and may your life be filled with good horses. Buck Brannaman
[IceHorses] Florida Cracker Horse
Janice, I found this page, while looking for something else; not sure if you have seen it or what it contains: http://sports.webshots.com/album/324661826eSCZzE Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Grandpa's little Princess
I like her stocky little neck! They both have pangare! I wonder if it comes from Melnir. she is so pretty! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Janice's Aunt
On 5/5/08, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And here's a pic of Janice's uncle. Wanda heres wandas wedding reception. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes. attachment: df3ce44bc06007ba1ca7be888fd2cf1a_web.jpg
Re: [IceHorses] Florida Cracker Horse
http://sports.webshots.com/album/324661826eSCZzE dang. its one of those websites forbidden by my server. i will look at it at home... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Janice's Aunt
here is a special horse, a product of wanda's exceptional breeding program where her goal is to produce animals with very small, refined heads. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes. attachment: headless.jpg
Re: [IceHorses] Helping a horse overcome it's fears/Nancy
shes lookin good on that horse! You go mom! janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Old Cowgirl
Judy, thank you. Isn't that just the most wonderful life? I love what she said about riding alone. I often ride with friends, and that's always nice, but my most wonderful moments on horseback have come when riding alone. Sunday morning I took Tosca out. It was cool and cloudy when we left the barn, but the sun came out, the grass sparkled, the wildflowers were in bloom and without any other horses about, Tosca was completely tuned to me. I stopped every now and then to rest her and let her munch a little grass and leaned forward to love on her neck. I know it's not safe, but if you ever hear that my horse came back without me, please don't feel bad. Know that I was one happy woman, just before I flew off. Nancy
[IceHorses] momentous day yesterday
nasi stepped on a baby geese and squished it. a gander bit curly ray on the sheath. I weigh taped stonewall, who is borderline obese, and he weighed 1180 lbs and then I weigh taped jaspar, who is borderline boneyard thin and he weighed 1154. up from 915 last september. They are about the same height. but i swear Jas doesnt look that much fatter!! I called the donkey man fri and said come get your Jenny, her and curly have done nothing but fight for a month now. Then I look out and she is making the donkey love sign at him, flattening ears and chewing teeth at him and he is looking back at her skeptically like is this a trick?? so had to call and tell the donkey man to wait a week. She has been here over 21 days, her cycle. so I bet when she first arrived she was at the very end of her heat cycle and he went nuts over it and she thought he was pushy and rude so wouldnt let him and maybe thats why they kicked and bit each other til they were covered in scabs. janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
[IceHorses] Susan's Mom
Dang Susan -- I think you've got some good genes working for you there. . . -- Renee M. in Michigan - Original Message - From: susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's a nice pic of her and Fireman!
Re: [IceHorses] Old Cowgirl
Know that I was one happy woman, just before I flew off. I want that on my tombstone -- even if I don't die in a horse accident. . . . : ) -- Renee M. in Michigan
Re: [IceHorses] Old Cowgirl
2008/5/5 Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Know that I was one happy woman, just before I flew off. I want that on my tombstone -- even if I don't die in a horse accident. . . That's a good one. There was one tombstone that I read about once that said, I told you I was sick. I don't know why, but that just cracks me up. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Whisper This
Yes, he is Buck's brother. Oh my gosh. . . that's rather interesting. Here is an excerpt from Buck's book, Faraway Horses: That's on my to-read bookshelf, along with a couple of Mark Rashid titles. Someday. . . -- Renee M. in Michigan.
Re: [IceHorses] Old Cowgirl
Judy, thank you. Isn't that just the most wonderful life? I love what she said about riding alone. I often ride with friends, and that's always nice, but my most wonderful moments on horseback have come when riding alone. Yes, Judy, thank you, what a great life. I agree with you, Nancy. I love going out with friends but I also really enjoy those solitary rides. I know many people I ride with wouldn't dream of hitting the trails by themselves but I find a peace on a solitary trail that I find nowhere else. Most of those rides are very slow and contemplative and just plain relaxing. -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
[IceHorses] A horse with no tolt
i found out from a trainer that my horse has no tolt. Oh well. I will just ride him and advertise him with no tolt. I got Scooter in one I think Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] A horse with no tolt
On 5/5/08, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i found out from a trainer that my horse has no tolt. Lorraine, I'm sorry, but you would not believe the crap trainers have told me. Does your trainer know what gait is? Do they know anything at all about gaited horses?? I wish you could go to a Liz clinic!! and even if he does happen to have no tolt, I bet he can do SOMETHING. Even my horribly pacey old jaspar does a to-die-for-smooth stepping pace and glorius canter. And Tivar does a prancey-flashy very energetic and pleasant smooth foxwalk. I'm sure you can find something in there somewhere with Dagur... but if your trainer knows nothing about gait and is specifically looking for a rack and the horse does something else, then they could just be ignorant about whats really there! Janice Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
[IceHorses] Flekka takes a break
And Princess Buttercup watches over her. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.6o2g5v8bx=0y=s7sir2localeid=en_US Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Old Cowgirls
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cowgirls up! Family takes top four spots in bareback bronc event You know, I haven't felt so young in a long time - all of these young riders make me feel great and inspire me to quit worrying and just keep riding. :-)) -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] Whisper This
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Whisper-This-your-horse-yourself/dp/0979144604 Did you think you would like this book? No, that's why I said this is a different book... Well, I laughed my butt off after reading the excerpt! Especially the part where the horse was fulfilling his part in the food chain!! HAHA! I think he is supplying a good dose of reality that some people need to hear. Harsh? yes, but true! Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Janice's Aunt
--- Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And here's a pic of Janice's uncle. Wanda Then Janice MUST be related to you because her uncle looks just like your twin brothers!! Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
On Mon, 5 May 2008 05:54:37 -0400, you wrote: I wonder why duns (all colors) are so common in Icelandic's but so rare (non-existent) in so many breeds...? Probably because there have always been people around who like the more interesting colours in Icelandics, and there was never the fashion for a coach and four with matched blacks/bays/chestnuts. There are plenty of duns among the less improved British native ponies, especially the Highlands and Shetlands, though you hardly ever see them in the improved ones like the Welshies and the New Forests. I can remember many years ago stewarding for a very well known pony judge at a local show, with a mix of breeds in the ring, who totally refused to place anything other than a black, a bay or a chestnut as those are, in her words, nice strong colours Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
On Mon, 5 May 2008 06:01:23 -0400, you wrote: Oops, forgot to askhas the mom shed out her winter coat completely, or is that making her look lighter than normal? She's still got a bit of winter coat there but the new coats is only very, very slightly darker. In fact, it's not so much darker, as more pink. She looks almost like a very light red dun with dark brown points, when she's shed out, if you can imagine that. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
I can remember many years ago stewarding for a very well known pony judge at a local show, with a mix of breeds in the ring, who totally refused to place anything other than a black, a bay or a chestnut as those are, in her words, nice strong colours Mic seems to be changing now, but an oldtimer who showed walking horses biglick in the sixties told me you couldnt win unless you had a solid, basic color horse. No spots. Thats why the started SSHBEA he said! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] ohmygosh!
real vintage white leather majorette boots with purple tassles and a HAT on ebay!! Oh, Janice, that was not good to include the ebay link... someone on the list will beat you to them! Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] ohmygosh!
real vintage white leather majorette boots with purple tassles and a HAT on ebay!! they are my SIZE!! Should I?!?!? I know I am famous for fur in winter, but this could be my summer attire. I could wear them with SHORTS. http://cgi.ebay.com/Estate-Find-Vintage-Majorette-Hat-and-Boots_W0QQitemZ380024198726QQihZ025QQcategoryZ48899QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
at the place where my walkers came from... he has a mare that occasionally throws a blue roan that is absolutely pale lavender with a navy blue face and stockings. and they ALWAYS have the ugliest roman nose! But he said they are always very smooth gaited. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] ohmygosh!
Oh, Janice, that was not good to include the ebay link... someone on the list will beat you to them! oh NO! wanda and karen have littler feet that might save me... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] ohmygosh!
I am on our FORTIETH high school reunion committee (good lord can you buhleive FORTY), and most are business people besides me, so they keep saying everyone needs to buy a full page ad for the memory book and get your money in early so we can use it to have them printed it is a hundred bucks! But it will be slick glossy full color ads, and I was thinking of a photo of me and donny at our front gate by our Mcdonalds Farm sign with a couple of our horses posed with us, wearing matching shirts and jeans. wouldnt that be cool? and just say happy fortieth from the mcdonalds but now I am thinking donny can wear a shirt and jeans and I will wear nothing but chaps, no underwear at all, and these majorette boots and hat. THAT WOULD BE S FUNnYY AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA\ sad thing is, nobody i went to high school with would be surprised in the least. janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Flekka takes a break
oh, she has a good little heart! I bet she always will have! My fox has a caring heart like that! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] ohmygosh!
I am the high bidder (smug) Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
[IceHorses] for the derby filly
see if this works... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes. attachment: candle.gif
[IceHorses] Re: for the derby filly
if you click view it moves :) Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
[IceHorses] cute guy!
look at this cute little guy!! He looks like Tivar with a Nasi Shnoz :) http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=1213780 Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Whisper This - The Faraway Horses
No, that's why I said this is a different book... altho I probably should have highlighted different. Yes, he is Buck's brother. Here is an excerpt from Buck's book, Faraway Horses: I have that book, The Faraway Horses, by Buck Branaman and I have never been so disappointed in a book. I bought the book to see how Buck trains horses, since I'd heard so much about him - not to read about his sad life, and to read about the famous and semi-famous names he can drop. You know, maybe his sad life (yeah, right, like the tragic end of his marriage that left him free to marry an ex-model...sigh...poor guy, how DOES he cope) might have been vaguely interesting as a sidenote to his training methods, but the first part of the book is all about his problems in his early life. That was about as interesting to me as I'm sure most people would find MY autobiography. The book just rankled me, because I got the feeling Buck was setting himself up to be the poor sensitive-but-macho cowboy that would be SO appealing to the moneyed women who can afford his riding clinics. Maybe his clinics would be ok, but after reading that book, going to one of his clinics just doesn't appeal to me, especially since the clinics he's done in this area have been about ranch ropin', cattle workin' and colt startin'. Sorry, but I don't have a real need to learn ranch ropin' here in encroachin' suburbia... :) I just went and read this page on Smokie's website, http://www.smokiebrannaman.com/SmokeBook.htm and I'm still laughing. Here's a quote: Does that make me an expert on horses or horsemanship? No it doesn’t. It also doesn’t make me a psychologist able to fix your marriage, or your life problems, while I fix your horses problems at a three-day clinic. ... I have done some little clinics here and there for my friends, mostly for free or cold beer, just because I like to help people with their horses and I enjoy it. And I’ve never tried to make a living at it. Mostly because I have a real problem with being able to feed a line of “Bull$#t” to a bunch of people knowing that they will never get it, and yet still taking their hard earned money. And believing that I am the one and only horseman in the world who can fix your horse, teach you what you need to know, or help you enjoy your horse more, just because you pay me to tell you that. Now I’m not saying that the wisdom these people sell is not good knowledge. Today’s clinicians who subscribe to natural horsemanship, the vaquero methods or any of the other topics you care to mention are all very useful to you and me. I use a lot of it in working with horses as well. And I have learned something from all of them. I’ll repeat that, all of them. (More on that topic later) So, now that you know that I’m just a guy who might be able to give you some insight on enjoying your horse experience a little more and give you some straight talking “No Bull$#t” advise without paying a ton of money, read on. Not sure I'll buy his Whisper This book, but it couldn't be more disappointing than his brother's book was to me - and I think I might like Smokie's direct style better. :) Karen Thomas, NC, wondering why does no one every have a filly startin' clinic...? ;)
Re: [IceHorses] ohmygosh!
real vintage white leather majorette boots with purple tassles and a HAT on ebay!! they are my SIZE!! Should I?!?!? I know I am famous for fur in winter, but this could be my summer attire. I could wear them with SHORTS. HOW do you find this stuff...??!!??! No, I think you should wear the majorette boots WITH fur. Karen Thomas, NC
[IceHorses] Equine Soundness Newsletter / May
http://www.equinesoundness.com/newslettermay2008.pdf Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] ohmygosh!
I have to get Tivar a purple harness plume if i win the auction on the boots. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
[IceHorses] Ground Level Coffin Bone
Any input on this? http://icehorses.blogspot.com/2008/05/ground-parallel-coffin-bone.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Old Cowgirls
And here the rest of us are doing months of ground work just to avoid the bucking hoprse exprience. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] A horse with no tolt
Don't let it bother you Lorraine. Even if he really truly has NO intermediate gait and never will, many people (me included) love a horse with a nice trot. We had a visitor this Spring who chose her Icelandic expressly because he was inclined to trot. She wanted to do dressage. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] A horse with no tolt
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't let it bother you Lorraine. Even if he really truly has NO intermediate gait and never will, many people (me included) love a horse with a nice trot. We had a visitor this Spring who chose her Icelandic expressly because he was inclined to trot. She wanted to do dressage. My daughter, Alex (12 yrs old) loves her Icelandic but wishes that Gat only did walk/trot/canter. V
Re: [IceHorses] Whisper This - The Faraway Horses
horses and I enjoy it. And I’ve never tried to make a living at it. Mostly because I have a real problem with being able to feed a line of “Bull$#t” to a bunch of people knowing that they will never get it, and yet still taking their hard earned money. And believing that I am the one and only horseman in the world who can fix your horse, teach you what you need to know, or help you enjoy your horse more, just because you pay me to tell you that. Very interesting. I wonder if that's a slight on his brother. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] patches
I thought I had seen all the Patches videos but this one was a new one for me. I have tried and tried to find out where this horse lived (he passed away now) because I know it had to be near me since it is in the florida panhandle. from things I see in the video I think it is near a freeway, drive up windows etc., and by the moss etc it looks like it might be near Live oak lake City area, but actually could be anywhere near me... but I liked this video because the old redneck men are just like they really are around here, they talk with the same accent, etc., seems like two good ol boys retired with nothing better to do than play with their horse all day and the horse seems very happy :) He died as I said earlier, but left an offspring they named Chip as in chip off the old block. anyway, here is a good Patches video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJNHNTs7Gbs Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] ohmygosh!
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to get Tivar a purple harness plume if i win the auction on the boots. Janice -- That would be perfect! V
[IceHorses] Talking Horse
http://listen-to-your-horse.blogspot.com/2008/05/talking-horse.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Old Cowgirls
and no helmet. Florida just passed a horse helmet law last week, the first ever. But its only for kids 16 and under, and exempt in rodeos and horse shows!! What are they thinking?!?! Every day on the news they've been reporting on it showing people kicked in the head in rodeos and horse shows and saying how its exempt there. why even BOTHER good grief! I am so mad I could spit. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Talking Horse
HAHAHAHAHA they are just like me and my husband EXactly!! Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Equine Soundness Newsletter / May
you oughta put some nice pics of the derby filly being put down at the finish line in the equine soundness newsletter. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] A horse with no tolt
Don't let it bother you Lorraine. Even if he really truly has NO intermediate gait and never will, many people (me included) love a horse with a nice trot. We had a visitor this Spring who chose her Icelandic expressly because he was inclined to trot. She wanted to do dressage. And I'll confess: I've done everything I can possibly do to TRY to breed for Icelandic's with strong natural gait, and I believe we're getting it in our foals. But you know, just for ME, for MY riding, breeder-duties aside, I'd love to have a three-gaited Icelandic. Seriously. One I could just trot and trot and trot on...and never worry about gaiting. Trotting is such good aerobic exercise (for the humans) and a great thigh builder. Yet who is my favorite riding horse? Sina - with whom it's almost impossible to get enough suspension to her trot (which actually stays slightly foxtrotty) to manage to post to. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Whisper This - The Faraway Horses
Very interesting. I wonder if that's a slight on his brother. Maybe not...but it sure was the first thing that crossed my mind! Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Clicker Training Clinic in Germany
http://home.arcor.de/danielamateja/ Here are some additional pictures which are not so large: http://www.hylling.de/treffen/index.htm Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] another new foal
There are plenty of duns among the less improved British native ponies, especially the Highlands and Shetlands, though you hardly ever see them in the improved ones like the Welshies and the New Forests. They are reasonably common in QH's and Mustangs and not-unheard of in TWH, but otherwise, I think dun is generally seen as a pony thing in the USA. To me, breeding against any color is just as problematic as breeding for a color. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Hroi - dark bay?
hey I found this karen... pangare is mealy. 6. Mealy is a single, dominant gene (Pa+ ) which causes lighter areas on the belly, muzzle, inner legs, and over the eyes. It is usually ignored in color description, except for changing black to seal brown, and changing chestnut to sorrel for breeders of draft horses. base color mealy variant black seal brown bay mealy bay chestnut sorrel Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
[IceHorses] wanda on her horse
here is wanda practicing the rocking chair canter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lodOSbzpCbkfeature=related janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Whisper This - The Faraway Horses
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just went and read this page on Smokie's website, http://www.smokiebrannaman.com/SmokeBook.htm and I'm still laughing. Guess we have the same sense of humor! I thought he was funny and to the point, too. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] OT sort of, my newest addition
--- Bia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: attached is a picture of my newest addition, Charlie. He is a TWH and he will arrive in about 2 weeks!... I know I know people wonder why I am on this list when I don't have an icelandic.Well, it's because I learn alot here Congrats, Bia!! And I write a lot about Whisper and she is not an Icey. We want ride stories and pictures, and videos!! Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] OT sort of, my newest addition
Congratulations Bia. I think several of use have breeds in addition to our Icelandics. I ride Hunter, also a TWH. Charlie looks like a very nice horse. Where did you find him? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] wanda on her horse
2008/5/5 Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]: here is wanda practicing the rocking chair canter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lodOSbzpCbkfeature=related The ONE day I forget to take my medication and someone captures it on film. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Whisper This - The Faraway Horses
Guess we have the same sense of humor! I thought he was funny and to the point, too. Yeah, I'm not quite sure I'll buy his book, but I sure got a kick out of him being so blunt. :) Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] OT sort of, my newest addition
don't have an icelandic.Well, it's because I learn alot here and the people are the nicest. I've been on this liost for awhile now (a couple of years I think!) so, I hope it's ok Hi Bia...love having you here! Charlie is beautiful!!! Congratulations on your new boy. Geldings are the best. Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] OT sort of, my newest addition
people wonder why I am on this list when I don't have an icelandic.Well, it's because I learn alot here and the people are the nicest. We're glad to have you Bia, and glad that the list is helpful to you! Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] wanda on her horse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lodOSbzpCbkfeature=related The ONE day I forget to take my medication and someone captures it on film. One more question, Wanda...is this the decade in which you plan to brush Gusti's mane? He's getting a little ratty... :) Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] OT sort of, my newest addition
Subject: Re: [IceHorses] OT sort of, my newest addition I ride Hunter, also a TWH. Charlie looks like a very nice horse. Where did you find him? Nancy I found him in Mississippi... online I am one of the few people who have had good luck finding good horses online! LOL! I hope this follows suit.
Re: [IceHorses] OT sort of, my newest addition
attached is a picture of my newest addition, Charlie. Gorgeous, Bia. I hope he works out well for you! Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] wanda on her horse
2008/5/5 Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One more question, Wanda...is this the decade in which you plan to brush Gusti's mane? He's getting a little ratty... :) Speaking of Gusti's mane...his mane is now down to his shoulders in all it's puffy glory... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] wanda on her horse
Speaking of Gusti's mane...his mane is now down to his shoulders in all it's puffy glory... Cool! So you got it brushed out since that video was made? :) Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] pangare
To me it seems that Pangare is pretty common. You all have so much to teach. I have never ever read or heard that word but can recognize it on Yrsa's muzzle. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Construction
Anneliese and Penny H: how's the construction progressing on your new houses? Karen: You can tell by the lateness of this answer how far behind I am with just skimming posts. We are in the house; started moving in around Easter. It is not quite finished but the number of boxes sitting around is getting smaller. There is still a lot to be done but I am actually paying some attention to the horses (trimmed their feet last week) and Pa fra Laugarvatni is here breeding some of our mares. So hopefully there will be a few foals in 2009. After that, the old house will be spruced up and then y'all can come and visit. Anneliese
[IceHorses] Falki's blood test results
I had the vet run a blood work up on Falki when he was out here doing vaccinations. I like to get baseline numbers. I him fax the numbers to work and didn't have the numbers from Skutla and Falki so I got a little concerned about the low WBC, RBC, HCT, HGB numbers. When I got home and entered his in with the other two I saw that the others had some low numbers in these same areas. I've attached the file. I think that Judy kept the numbers somewhere, but don't know where. The boys have been good running and playing. Falki is better about getting brushed now that I only do it in the morning. I jump on his back with the neck rope in the evenings and he likes that. He gets jealous if I get on Gloi. He tries to cut us off. Since he likes to chase Gloi and I don't want to find out how good I am at bareback bucking broncos we cut Gloi's ride short and limit to the little area by the compost pile. The doctor that works for me is taking another job with a shorter commute so I've busy recruiting and interviewing. Her last day is end of May and my best prospects can't start till July so I may end up working way too many days in June. Hope I can still get a video for our virtual show. Haven't decided what we are going to do yet. I've been enjoying all the baby pictures and keep saving e-mails to comment on but can't seem to catch up reading much less have time to respond. -- Anna Southern Ohio Skutla's blood count.wps Description: Binary data
Re: [IceHorses] A horse with no tolt
else, then they could just be ignorant about whats really there! Janice Janice -- Thanks. That makes me feel better. I am not giving up. Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Ground Level Coffin Bone
On May 5, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Judy Ryder wrote: Any input on this? http://icehorses.blogspot.com/2008/05/ground-parallel-coffin-bone.html I got into a discussion about this on one of the barefoot lists some years back. The contention was that unless a horse was trimmed by their methods designed especially to keep the coffin bone ground parallel and then kept barefoot, the horse wouldn't stay sound and would have a variety of hoof problems. My horses had been trimmed all along by regular farriers who paid careful attention to balancing the hoof, had often been shod after a balanced trim, and had 300 to 1700 miles in distance competitions (depending on the horse), were sound, and had never had an abscess or other hoof problem. I finally took my main competition horse (shod) over to the vet and had an x-ray taken of a front foot. The coffin bone was as close to ground parallel as the xray could resolve, just with competent farrier work based on hoof balance (http://www.horseshoes.com/advice/balancingnormalfoot/ balancingnormalfoot.htm). Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/ http://www.dslextreme.com/~napha/HighPoint/
