Re: [IceHorses] Show Day
A couple of summers ago a group of us got together and put on a fun show every other Wednesday evening. Cheryl Now THAT sounds like the type of show that would promote the type of calm, sensible, usable horses that people would want to buy and ride Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Show Day
From: Virginia Tupper In the halter class leggy, showy horses got ribbons--not our beautiful, stocky Gat (who trotted along beautifully while Alex ran along). I believe most conventional horse and/or dog shows reward looks and/or one sort of extreme behavior, instead of promoting well-rounded, relaxed, sensible, usable horses. This, of course, encourages people to keep breeding back to champions until the breeds are littered with pretty, high-stepping, but unsound, unstable, or dangerous animals. I suppose that if people insist on showing Icelandics in conventional shows, it won't be long before, like the once thirfty, pony-sized, calm Morgans, even this tough breed will become tall, silly, nervous, but pretty, according to the dictates of fashion. I wish informal shows would become more popular, where people can have fun doing, and being rewarded for, what their horses were actually bred to do. Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Last Weekend Pony Hero VERY LONG PART 2
Pretty amazing story...so glad your horse had sense..and you as well! Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Scooter at the Salt River
Had a nice ride this morning before it got too hot. It is now 100 degrees. Yikes. Lorraine Looks like so much fun..thanks for posting the pics for us! Rachel in E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Big Bird
From: Lorraine Voog I saw a Condor at the Grand Canyon. They have a wing span of about 8 or 9 feet. No pictures though. Last time I was there, in 2003, I saw the condors also-along with Bald Eagles, Peregrine Falcons, etc., but only took pictures with a regular camera. The park has been trying to reestablish them there. Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Birder
Here are our local birds. Nancy in Oregon Turkeys008.jpg Now, with those, you don't need much of a zoom in your camera! Rachel from E KY
Re: [IceHorses] ID microchips
both my TWH and my Icey are marked underneath their manes. No, they're not very visible, but I don't think they need to be--all you have to do is lift the mane to see it. . I've not heard any thing about microchips being toxic. Robyn We freeze-branded our two Tennessee Walkers under their manes ourselves and registered their brands. I've read about microchips causing cancer in mice in my horse magazines..I think John Lyon's The Perfect Horse was one of them. Rachel from E KY
Re: [IceHorses] Birder
Here is a photo for you Rachel. I took this a couple months ago on our property. Cheryl Wow..thanks! That's an adult West Taiga Great Horned Owl...here we only have the dark eastern versions. I used to see completely white versions when I taught in Hermosillo, MX back in 2001. Those things are strong; one even carried off our beloved Gray Chinese Goose. Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Scooter in blue
What is a birder. I am going to KY for the first time in June. Happy Southwestern Trails A birder is someone who observes, and/or photographs, etc., birds. I always love to see the Western birds when I go out there-lived for four years in Durango, CO Rachel from E KY
Re: [IceHorses] Shiny Color
when I saw an akhel teke It looked about like my Gallant Boy. All bones and a scrawney neck. Janice I had a throwback Akhal Teke growing up. I called her La Bruja (the witch) because she was so ugly, but even though she was only about 13.2 hh she could cruise at 30 mph and had a gold metalic sheen. I won every race with that mare and never did let her run as fast as she wanted Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Scooter in blue
How adorable! And the perfect place to ride for a birder Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Last of the pictures
Some new photos of Gloi Bowing and smiling and a picture of the three amigos. Anna What adorable pictures! Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Gaited Drill Team
From: Judy Ryder A video of a gaited drill team: Judy Loved the video-nice to see Tennessee Walkers doing their beautiful, gliding gait while relaxed, on a loose rein...not seen around here, for sure!! Rachel from E KY, where locals routinely spur their gaited horses hard while holding the bit as tight as they can
Re: [IceHorses] Re: gaited mules
From: The Lund family This did me so much good to hear! I got my dream come true when we got 2 previously unhandled mules 1-1/2 yrs ago, but it has been so disheartening and confusing when I would think I was making progress, and then find that I must have done something to offend I've had some harrowing mule experiences in my childhood in Haiti where an (ungelded) mule tried to rape my mare-with me still riding her- and one tried its best to corner and kill me when I tried to pet it while it was standing tied, but when George and I rode the mules in the Grand Canyon, I found that my mule, which had been ignoring all rein cues and doing as it pleased, quickly responded to my routine pressure/release way of riding, which, I understand, John Lyons also recommends; in about 15 minutes I knotted the reins and threw them on his neck and he responded to weight shifts only. Horses usually take a little bit longer, or have other issues, such as spookiness. Since this is my only mule experience, it could have been the mule's previous training and/or personality, or the limited nature of the ride. However, when we stopped for a rest and photo op, I could still maneuver the mule easily and ride where I pleased when others couldn't get their animals to budge once the line halted. Again, I could have been lucky, plus, I wasn't breaking it to ride. I read an article by John Lyons where he said that pressure and release worked particularly well for mules since intimidation methods, often used on horses, don't work with mules. My llama has a similar, mule-like personality-smart, self-serving, can't be intimidated, doesn't care a bit what I want-but he does respond readily to pressure and release. Again, I've never ridden or driven him either! Rachel from E KY
Re: [IceHorses] an awful pic
Let's all visualize the Icelandic Horse barefoot, treeless, bitless, getting the high scores at evaluations and shows; and natural gaits being valued. Judy I'm with you there! And we can also help by only buying sensible animals to encourage responsible breeding. Rachel from E KY
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Birthday (Nasi has a new sister!)
From: Denise Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, Arora had a newborn bay filly this morning. I guess it is also Nasi and Charm's birthday? Both Mom and babe are doing fine. How cute! Congratulations! Rachel from E KY
Re: [IceHorses] an awful pic
thats how it all began with walking horses, just a tiny little bit of weight in the front shoes and a little more shank on the bit and they are saying so whats the solution? I dont know. Janice-- I heartily concur with you Rachel Jenkins
RE: [IceHorses] an awful pic
It all goes back to the show ring. I don't think all showing is horrible, and I think SOME good comes of it sometimes, but the desire to win does seem to put human egos ahead of animal welfare in way too many cases. Karen Thomas, NC Hear, hear! I concur. Also, any showing for looks alone seems to doom the breed; i.e., dogs. Many popular purebreds have already been reduced to ninnies. It's been hard to even get a decent Blue Heeler anymore-a dog bred for its wits and instincts to herd cattle. Rachel Jenkins
RE: [IceHorses] Buyer Beware!
When you are looking for a natural moving smooth trail horse, it's probably not a good thing when the seller starts bragging about all the World Grand Champions in its pedigree or the show accomplishments of the particular horse! Ain't that the TRUTH?! Yet, in trying to sell my very smooth-moving Tennessee Walkers I noticed that people just seemed interested in their show prospects. Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Buyer Beware!
From: Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then there are Lyons, Anderson, Rashid, Branaman, the Dorrence books and Leslie Desmond? All these people have HUGE followings in the USA (and across the world) where people - even MEN - are searching for ways to calm their hot, hyper, spooky horses. And then, here is the Icelandic breed, which certainly has the largest percentage of sane, calm, intelligent horses I've personally encountered I concur!! That's why I want to switch my hot-blooded Tennessee Walkers for a sane breed-supposedly the Icelandics. I don't want to worry about one of my horses jumping out from under me at the sight of a garbage can. I was already spoiled growing up with my calm, fast, gaited mustangs that didn't know the meaning of spooking, or going lame despite being barefoot. Rachel from E. KY
RE: [IceHorses] Pony Goes Platinum
This is a photo of Remington and me at the one day one hundred mile endurance ride we completed last Saturday in the desert at the south end of the Sierras. John Parke Solvang CA Congratulations to both of you!! I read about you and Remington in the Trail Horse magazine, which piqued my interest in the Icelandic Horse breed. How tall is Remington, and does he have any offspring or relatives for sale? Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Connie
I was out by myself cleaning trail about 18 months ago (opening weekend of upland bird season) and came across a nice big chocolate labrador retriever puppy, probably about a year old. We're pretty sure poor Buddy was dumped by a disgruntled bird hunter. Nancy Or, someone took a poorly trained pup on a hunt and at the first sound of gunfire, he bolted-or got lost looking for the downed game! Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] When Things Go Wrong With Us and Our Horses
From: Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] The truth is that in most cases the solution lies within the rider and nowhere else. Ouch! I didn't think I was that bad of a rider! If you own enough horses, you learn that is NOT necessarily true. There are horses with different personalities and tendencies within each breed, and the breeds theselves differ greatly. It depends on someone's skill level, and purpose. From my experience, you can either waste your time and money on an inappropriate horse, or get a good one. I.e., why would beginner riders wish to endanger their lives with a high strung, highly bred performance horses that can take several years to perfect, when there are, say, calm, reliable mustang crosses that would just need a few hours of training? Many times I have bought beautiful horses with wonderful gaits that I quickly sold when I realized they had an unacceptable flaw; maybe liked to stomp dogs, or were lazy. Rachel from E KY
Re: [IceHorses] A Story of Electricity and Recognition
From: Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Found it! My husband and I were on a trip in 2001 and were passing thru a friend's town on the way home, so we called ahead of time to see if we could stop for a minute to say hey. And he remembered me from so long ago! Pretty cool story! Floppy Disks How could you even play them?! Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] When Things Go Wrong With Us and Our Horses
From: Virginia Tupper referring to: that can take several years to perfect, when there are, say, calm, reliable mustang crosses that would just need a few hours of training? I don't think I've ever seen a mustang cross. The local grade trail horses are mostly gaited breeds mixed with mustang. Many are calm, intelligent, sure-footed, and as fast as the Tennessee Walkers, without the high upkeep or drama. But the pure mustangs I rode in Haiti had them beat by a mile. But that's what I thought Icelandics are supposed to be like as well! Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Horse
What gait on this horse: http://www.tolthorse.com/video.cfm?SHID=91 Judy That's what we'd call a rack, but is apparently also a tolt. Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] cloning
From: Karen Thomas I shouldnt be surprised really. All the officials of the TWHBEA and RHBAA probably go home at night and pull wings off flys and attach little padded big lick shoes on them and watch them crawl around on the coffee table like crippled ducks. So why should the usihc be any different really. Touche! I heartily concur with the above. Once I explained to her what was going on my daughter refused, since Middle School, to attend any of their shows Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] cholla spurs
From: Lorraine Voog [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I finally got him stopped after 8 long seconds of riding, I found a cholla stuck to the heal of my boot. OUCH! My sympathy-and congrats on staying seated and getting him stopped despite it Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] calling all redneck wannabees
From: Janice McDonald So you have it all, an appalachicola river crossing, an interstate highway crossing, drunk rednecks and yellowjackets. I wouldnt miss it for the world. Hilarious!! Sounds like a normal daily trailride around here, except that grandmas and little kids are along as well, and during the summer they'll ride all night! Rachel from E KY
Re: [IceHorses] Perceptions
The reception of all the information that comes to us is conditioned by many factors. Two people can receive the same information and see or understand it in different ways. The reason for this is that the capacity to be aware will be influenced by factors such as heredity, upbringing, nationality, education, experience and so on. These factors form a mental framework through which what comes to us is filtered, and by which it is coloured. They determine not just what we see, but how we see it. I wanted to repeat the above as I think it's important, and also relates to some of the current topics. Truer words never spoken. I grew up on a tropical island, surrounded by several different cultures and my experience with local mustangs is apparently not applicable here in the US. Rachel from E KY
RE: [IceHorses] Now this is show jumping!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNPOdffkkLo That is hilarious! Thanks so much for posting it! Rachel from E. KY
RE: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
From: Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone think of anything I might could try on the ground with this mare to help her before this a-hole gets ahold of her again? I have been praying for rain since I planted my grass but now I kinda hope it doesnt rain for a while... Janice The Beery manual has what some might consider a drastic method to cure confirmed rearers I've used with good effect for some nut cases who liked to flip over, which will doubtless incur outrage from some. It takes steady nerves and some athleticism. You buckle knee pads on the problem horse, padded ankle straps with strong rings on them-hobble straps work well-and a circingle, then just drive the horse in a light snaffle with driving lines on soft ground in a safe place. There is a cord rope clipped to a ring on the left side of the circingle that runs down and threads through a ring at the back of the left front fetlock, then up through a ring in the middle of the bottom of the circingle, then down through a ring on the back of the right front foot strap, and back up through a couple of rings to the driver's or a helper's hands. If the horse balks and rears, simply pull the rope, which will fold the front feet back. This does not allow the horse to come back down except to its knees. Just hold the horse on its knees a few minutes, the let it up and give it cues to go forward again. It usually only takes a couple of times to completely discourage rearing. The first few times you hitch up (to a sturdy training vehicle), leave the ropes in place, in case the horse associates the rearing behavior with pulling a cart. If I had realized that Levi was thinking about bolting, I could have used this method to stop him, but he'd been a great driving horse for a year, so I was caught off guard.
Re: [IceHorses] MORE DOG FOOD RECALL- 3/20 UPDATE
From: Lorraine Voog [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYI: Mighty Dogs and Science Diet dog food added today (3/20/2007) to recall list. Thanks Raven. I have two dogs. that is scarey. Lorraine [brackets point INTO the quoted text.] Thanks for the warnings: a while back I read that studies showed it was healthier for dogs to eat the cheapest dry dog out there because of the low protein/high fiber content, but recently we've been buying the even cheaper locally made bulk hunting dog mix, but my mom has been buying the expensive stuff for her elderly Cocker Spaniel, so I'll warn her.
Re: [IceHorses] Horse in Water Photo
From: Denise Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used to sort of swim with my horses in the ocean. I sort of developed a way (on my own) with my very first horse (then too young to ride anyway) to push me thru the water. Cool pictures-like you say, almost unbelievable! It almost seems necessary to be young, foolish, and be free to do as you like with a sensible (probably grade) horse to really learn to ride and connect with horses, as opposed to taking riding lessons to learn to ride correctly to win ribbons. I used to think I was missing something growing up riding saddleless and bridless, jumping over the backs of kitchen chairs with my calm little mustangs, but when I grew up and started buying purebred American horses, I was shocked at the difference.
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Crazy Morning
I went to the magistrate's office late yesterday afternoon and took out a complaint against the man,which was a real education let me tell you. I was so glad I went with information in hand about the livestock-at-large statute which the Horse Council had faxed me. The magistrate didn't have a clue and I basically had to tell him what to do. -- Laree That's a hair-raising story and I admire your courage. I found out, years ago, that even when I hired lawyers, I had to do all the research-show them copies of the laws and then tell them what to do. In fact, the last time, I skipped the lawyer and did it all myself (cheaper) Rachel
Re: [IceHorses] Horse in Water Photo
[delete headers to, from, subj, date] [brackets point INTO quoted text] Also, a lot of people dont know so I am telling you--- when riding in the water you do not USE REINS! Its hard work for them and they really have to have unobstructed breathing when swimming and like humans their heads rise and fall out of the water and they have to be able to concentrate on breathing rhythmically while swimming just as we do!! I know two people whose horses almost drowned because they were not careful about this! Thanks for the heads up! I've read that before but since I no longer swim my horses, didn't really think about it. I used to like to swim my horses across rivers, but I sort of floated beside them and let them pull me through the water by their manes. In 1980 I was swimming the flooded Animas River in Durango, CO, on my Arabian, but he got snagged on something underwater and disappeared for a long moment. I was going to try to dive down and free him (a really BAD idea) but just then he popped back up. After that, I would only ride them partway into ponds or wade up flooded creeks. Rachel from E KY
[IceHorses] Big Buggy Wreck Story
I posted this story on the draft horse form, but here it is again: typed with one hand George and I rescued two abused, deer-wild Tennesse Walker geldings 3 1/2 years ago and he helped me break them to trail ride, jump, and drive, which we did almost daily. However, Levi (George's horse) got the impression the last time George drove him in December (my injured left arm prevented my driving), that he was in control, since George is so passive with him. Levi is usually perfectly behaved when the rider stays in charge- i.e., after I broke him he was the perfect trail horse. But since George then became his regular rider, everytime I rode Levi after George had been riding him, Levi would ignore all my cues and I would have a fight with him until he accepted me as the boss again. He was usually a wonderful, calm driving horse since I did all the driving and wouldn't let him get away with anything. However, Levi has what the Beery horse breaking manual calls the classic #4 personailty head profile; long, hairy ears, slightly bulging forhead, small, close-set eyes, which he says means the horse will have a natural tendency to bolt and be treacherous. After Levi kept pretending to spook and to run away in December while George was driving him, I felt very uneasy about him. I told George I didn't want to mess with such large horses (16 hands) anymore, especially since Levi was starting to shows signs of dangerous behavior and even the perfect Banjo could be spooky at times. I put both horses for sale online and began looking into Icelandic horses-known for their stability and intelligence-and the reason I joined this forum. Problem for 6' 1 George, though; they are very small compared to our horses. Because George was so upset about my plans to switch breeds, I didn't try very hard. We drove my horse, Banjo, this Sunday on a 3 hour drive in the Daniel Boone National Forest, and he was on his best behavior as we watched a helicopter laying electric cable along a cut while I took pictures. I suspected Levi would try something when his turn came, after having 3 months off, so when we hitched him up day before yesterday, I put a rope Beery poll pinch bridle on under the driving bridle. I held the leather driving reins and George held the Beery rope reins so we could stop any misbehavior. Levi was mostly perfect for about 1 1/2 hours of driving the National Forest access roads. A couple of times he tried to break into a run, but the Beery rope pull quickly discouraged him. On the way back, George wanted to stop and chat with someone in a truck, but after a minute or two, Levi started tensing like he was going to run. I warned George, and thought we could stop Levi with the pinch bridle. I was wrong. Levi suddenly bolted down the hill as though we weren't there, despite both of us yanking on our lines, throwing me into the side of the mountain on the sharp corner, then bucked until he rolled the cart. George got scrapes, but I had to go to U.K. medical Center to have plastic surgery from where my teeth had punctured my cheek, and a hand bone expert set my fractured left hand. My left jaw had a hairline fracture, so I have to eat through a straw. Still, I'm lucky to be alive! I had to rinse out my mouth with water before I was stitched, and joked to the doctors that I was like the Jim Carrey character in The Mask when he reappeared from behind the bar after the gangsters had shot at him, and said, Did you miss me? He paused to take a drink, whereupon water came spurting out of him like a sprinkler, then quipped, I guess NOT! The accident happened around 12:30 and we didn't get out of the U.K. emergency room until after midnight, so I mostly sat around hospitals reading Heinlein's The Cat Who Walks Through Walls while they were doing stuff to me. Although George adored Levi and didn't want to switch breeds, I have resolved to listen to my better judgment from now on. I now have both our horses in the paper for sale at a reduced price. Even though Banjo has been good as gold, even when we drove him a few days ago, I know he used to be spooky when I rode him, and he is so tall he's almost impossible for me to mount with an injured arm. Well, I think I'll sip my dinner now-luckily, I always eat blended fruit and sprouts anyway! Rachel from E KY
[IceHorses] Re: Colt Not Gaiting
Here's some advice from a trainer in another gaited breed, about getting a colt to gait on the ground: Nothing much in there about what's going on in that baby's head is there? I'm wondering a bit about all that forcing the colt with ropes. According to the March 2007 The Trail Rider Magazine, Brenda Imus' article Gait training 101, and my experience, for all gaited horses, you simply start the horse with a relaxed walk, then keep pushing him faster until he starts to break gait, but hold him back with light rein cues just enough to keep him from breaking. Immediately afterward encourage him to lengthen his stride until he reaches that point again, then use half halts on a light rein to increase collection, and when he shifts his weight backwards slightly, in a slight hesitation, ask him to move forward with your legs. Repeat until he gradually slides into the gait as an extension of the walk. I know that, around here, people hold the head back while spurring the horse forward, but, according to Imus, this forces the horse to raise his head and hollow his back, which puts strain on the hocks and stifles. If your horse is holding the correct walk form, his mane will bob up and down. Rachel in E. KY
[IceHorses] Re: E-trade
Yes, that's very true: $2000 doubled only a few times on the stock market can easily become $1200...or less. Ouch! ..sounds like the voice of experience! For sure, one would have to carefully follow the guidelines of the strategy; picking stock, setting stops, exit strategy, etc. I asked one of the naked ladies if any of them had lost money doing naked calls yet, and she said none of them had, but a newbie who tried to copy them lost some money because she neglected to follow even the most basic guidelines. One of the naked ladies said she tries to spend all her money but can't even come close to keeping up with what she's making. Sounds like that's what you'd need to have happen to afford to breed horses! You can certainly lose money in a hurry doing straight options, though, if you don't set any stop losses or watch the market, for certain sure (ask me how I know!) Rachel from E. KY
[IceHorses] bareback pads, soft saddles
Has anyone tried the Cashel Soft Saddle or another type of bareback pad with Icelandic horses? I used an inexpensive bareback pad and breast collar with my Arabian for about a year, back in 1978, but before, and after, that I only used saddle blankets-which are harder to stabilize on steep inclines. I hate using stirrups, but I don't like to slide forward going downhill either, so probably would have to have one with a girth. At any rate, a bareback type of saddle wouldn't pinch the horse's back, provided you made certain the cinch was wide, and far enough back not to pull on the withers. Anyone had experience in this area? Rachel from E. KY.
[IceHorses] Re: Promotion of the Breed
Gotlands are small, primitive pony sized horses from Sweden, closely related to the Tarpan, not gaited. Here's a link: http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/horses/gotland/index.htm Rachel from E. KY
[IceHorses] Re: in fairness to Curls
it was purely a staged photo op! Good Lord I would have never put a three year old on curly ray loose! The mom was standing there and had hold of her waist. That reminds me-in the 80s, Whistle (our ferocious little racking gelding who could rack at 30 mph-hence his name) was tethered in a side field and when I walked down to check on him and move him to better grass, there was city couple, their car parked nearby, posing their 13 month old baby ON WHISTLE'S BACK. Nobody was holding the horse's head, and the parents were taking a picture!! Whistle hadn't moved-maybe he was too taken aback. Horrified, I casually eased up and took hold of Whistle's halter, quietly explaining to the now indignant parents that it wasn't SAFE to put a baby, or anyone else, on a loose horse in a field. I noticed that they kept hanging around, waiting for me to leave so they could resume their folly, but I stayed with Whistle until they drove off in a rage, gravel flying. When I finally let go of Whistle's head, he exploded in a bucking, galloping frenzy (as he was wont to do), streaking to the end of the tether, nearly knocking me flat with the rope, since I had been too distracted to keep my guard up. As I picked myself up, I realized that if I hadn't come along when I did, it could have been disastrous, and the parents probably would have sued ME, although they were trespassing on private land. Later I read that thoroughbred breeders near Lexington had experienced similar incidents from passing tourists wanting to pose their children on colts and even studs, until the owners had to put up high double electric fences to protect themselves from lawsuits. Unbelievable, but I suppose many people who haven't been around them, tend to think of horses as big doggies. Rachel from E. KY
[IceHorses] Re: E-trade
Let us know how it goes! and send pictures! Whatever money we got for the yearlings could be put to work at E- trade; with E-trade's new bracket stops and liberal trading policy, four of our trading buddies have been doubling their account values every month on naked calls. E-trade??? Thankyou! I dunno what will happen with the horses; my daughter was going to buy the herd and have it delivered to our farm, but she's been hesitating since her mutual funds took a hit with the recent drop in the stock market. E-trade is an online brokerage house. Formerly, brokerages required traders to have $100,000 or more in their accounts and qualify for a 5 trading level before they would be allowed to do naked calls. With the proliferation of online brokerages, rules are relaxing and benefits are increasing, i.e., E-trade lets traders start with $2000 and a level 4. There are others with no trading level required. With the bracket stops, you can set your trade to close out automatically no matter which direction the market goes. Anyway, even without the stops, about four of our trading friends-one man and three older ladies (people call them the naked ladies) have been averaging from 100 to 120 percent growth in their brokerage accounts each month doing naked calls using the N2K Terry Harris method, and said they'll be millionaires by summer. We've been getting similar results with virtual trades, but haven't started doing real trades yet because of the $2000 minimum. I'm only a level 3, but could easily qualify for a 4. If the naked trades work with real money, the money from the sale of a yearling really COULD support you; $2000 doubled only ten times is $1,2400! Rachel in E. KY
[IceHorses] Re: Kentucky
-Yes, the Oneys are nearby; we live a mile past Hayes Crossing at Hayes Branch, right on 60 East; sometimes we ride the Tennessee Walkers up Little Perry to see his mule yearlings. I don't know how this deal with buying the herd from Farnese Farms will go. We are still trying to get a haul date with Twilight Hauling. If so, we'll suddenly have six more horses. Rachel from E. KY
[IceHorses] Re: Kentucky
Hi Rachel...do you want a Gmail inviitation? Its a great free web based email program. I have a lot of give away. Let me know. Thanks! I have a gmail address that I seldom use, except to store emails from hotmail-I suppose I use Hotmail because that's the email address everyone has for me, so that's where I get my messages. Rachel from E. KY
[IceHorses] Re: Head and Mouth in Gait
I think more of the Icelandic folks have had better luck with the sidepulls- you don't get the same kind of poll pressure and they seem to do quite well with them. I know that is all some folks will use Thanks-I've never used one, but I noticed that there were several versions of the bitless bridle for sale online, all claiming to be the best. The one I was referring to is the one with the brand name, The Bitless Bridle. The different brands claim to push the horse's head from the opposite side, and the rider feedback seems to be positive. The best part, is that they claim it doesn't ever inflict pain. I already ride without using a bit, even cueing my gaited horses into whatever gait I wish with weight shifts, i.e. acting out the gait I want. I leave the bridle on the nervous horse I now own-in case Banjo spooks-but seldom used a bridle with any of my horses in the past, including my high strung Arabian. I haven't yet tried to train an Icelandic, but if they are really calm and sensible, they should, (hopefully) be easy to train. Rachel from E. KY
[IceHorses] Re: Kentucky
Rachel...be very very careful using a hauler!! Please check with list members who can refer a dependable...honest...caring shipper!!! Thanks! Reading horror stories now has me nervous. Twilight Hauling was recommended by the breeder from Farnese Farm, but if anyone can vouch for them, that would reassure her nervous dad, who also thinks we are taking a risk. Rachel in E. KY
[IceHorses] Re: Kentucky
I guess I'll have to reply from the Yahoo! groups website, to give Judy a break. I'm in Rowan County, close to the Carter County line, on 60 East. To get to Maysville, I go to Morehead, then drive north on 32. I have a trailer, and right now I'm back in negotiations to buy a discounted herd of Icelandics, since the owner has to move this month and doesn't want to board them. I had given up on trying to buy them, but after doing some research and deciding that it was a deal, I decided to try again. Except that the hauler has now more than doubled her price to $1200 per horse from British Columbia. Ouch. If the deal goes through, I'll have a 5 1/2 yr old proven blood bay stallion, two 14 year old brood mares (blue dun and gray), a two year old blue dun filly, an 8 month old silver dapple filly, and an 8 month old black colt. All we really want are the adults, so we'll be selling off the young stuff. Since we are buying sight unseen we are taking a chance. The Walker horses are still unsold, but we can keep the male Icelandics at a nearby farm. Rachel from Morehead, KY
