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get a rolled up empty paper feed bag. Rub it all over, both sides til she is taking a nap. Then lightly VERY lightly whisk her with it, both sides, til napping. run it up under the belly and in between all the legs til she is napping. then lightly whop it along the back and sides, neck, between the eyes but only if she is napping. This is one of the best things I know of you can do to a horse. It may take several sessions if done right, not moving on til they are ready and napping.. I can kill a fly between jaspars eyes with a crop and he wont even blink. he trusts me completely with anything around him, any weird object. but its very important you dont stop til they are napping and they are completely free at all times, not even a halter, so psychologically they know they are free to go. And if you stop while they are still flinching from it you have only taught them the scarey thing does indeed exist, instead of there is no scarey thing. But please, PLEASE if you are so stupid as to go out and start whopping your horse upside the head without a huge amount of incremental desensitization, then you deserve the monster you create. honestly, just please dont even try. (not talking to you here nancy but others who might be reading) Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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2008/7/18 Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]: get a rolled up empty paper feed bag. Rub it all over, both sides til she is taking a nap. Then lightly VERY lightly whisk her with it, both sides, til napping. run it up under the belly and in between all the legs til she is napping. then lightly whop it along the back and sides, neck, between the eyes but only if she is napping. Despooking. ... Yes, I should do that with Solon. He's SO trusting that it's these little steps that I tend to forget to do with him...but that doesn't mean they don't NEED to be done. They do. Wanda -- Thoughts become things...
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him...but that doesn't mean they don't NEED to be done. They do. Wanda just makes them more fearless of everything. Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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You all seem to do a nice job of starting your youngsters. I'm looking for ideas for what I can do with Yrsa. I don't have a round pen - rather a biggish oval pen just a little too large to do round pen stuff in. So she has been ground driven, longed on a longe line, led for walks wearing a saddle, introduced to the mounting block and the wheelchair ramp, clipped, bathed and loaded into the tack room. I'm not feeling like she's quite good enough with her geround driving to start riding her. What else can I throw in the mix for fun? I'm afraid I am too uncoordinated for clicker training. I just can'tr seem to get it on my own. I think Karen Pryor lives not far from me and also Beth Bliss, who put together some videos, but I'm pretty maxed out for available horse time. Nancy
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2008/7/17 Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You all seem to do a nice job of starting your youngsters. I'm looking for ideas for what I can do with Yrsa. I don't have a round pen - rather a biggish oval pen just a little too large to do round pen stuff in. So she has been ground driven, longed on a longe line, led for walks wearing a saddle, introduced to the mounting block and the wheelchair ramp, clipped, bathed and loaded into the tack room. I'm not feeling like she's quite good enough with her geround driving to start riding her. What else can I throw in the mix for fun? Excellent question. I'm sort of at the same stage with Solon...or at least I was a while ago. I'm just getting back to some tentative training with him. I do need to introduce him to clippers, and I haven't lunged him yet. I'm such a clutz at that, that I've hesitated doing any lunging.. T aking for walks with a saddlehmm. I did that with him last fall. Perhaps it's time for a refresher. I'll be all ears - I'm looking for ideas too. Wanda -- Thoughts become things...
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I don't have a round pen - rather a biggish oval pen just a little too large to do round pen stuff in. So she has been ground driven, longed on a longe line, led for walks wearing a saddle, introduced to the mounting block and the wheelchair ramp, clipped, bathed and loaded into the tack room. I'm not feeling like she's quite good enough with her geround driving to start riding her. What else can I throw in the mix for fun? Do you have the Parelli Seven Games tape? I like some of the more advance games before riding, like sideways game, hide your hiney and a few others. It's always nice when they've had some introduction to a little lateral work before riding them. You don't have to become a Parelli-zealot to use the games - and they are fun, for horse and human. And, Parelli was nice enough when he designed his program to realize that not everyone has a round pen... AND he stresses playing not working. I'm afraid I am too uncoordinated for clicker training. I just can'tr seem to get it on my own. I think Karen Pryor lives not far from me and also Beth Bliss, who put together some videos, but I'm pretty maxed out for available horse time. What have you tried? Karen Thomas, NC
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Do you have the Parelli Seven Games tape? Yes and also a book. They have been out on loan, but I think they came home to roost. Both are pretty old, but I imagine he hasn't changed his program substantially. She knows the friendly game hands down, although I sort of add some T-touch while we're being friendly. She loves being touched - such a nice change from Hunter. She is less good with the driving game, but she is much better about staying out of my space and moving away from my intent than she used to be. She does a nice yo-yo, but I don't do it quite right. She is a little slow with the porcupine. She's a little non-reactive in general. We haven't tried circling, although she walks quietly on a longe line and changes directrions calmly. No sideways game at all. Squeeze - can't remember how to do it, but she's not bothered by very much. What have you tried? Do you mean with the clicker? Well, I did buy the book The Click That Teaches And I did read it. And I bought the clicker, which I have since lost somehow. Does any of that count? Nancy
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Skye...thank you for all the info that you have sent me! After 1/2 hr in the ocean, she is doing much better. Love that salt water ! The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- Karen Swingley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So many varibles... ~Cause--feed, road founder, cushings, stress etc I believe the cause was lush green spring grass plus I think she was hogging the other horse's grain(when i wasn't looking) Grain with an overweight horse? Is this horse an Icelandic? If so we Never give our Icelandics typical grain. They get a cup of black oil sunflower seeds daily. If they are fit we will give them a small treat of whole oats..small, a handful. ~horses weight She initially was overweight but after she foundered 8 wks ago, she was confined to stall duty and shed quite a few pounds. Typically we would not put a horse in a stall during a founder, movement is better for their health ~hoof care trimmed every 8 wks Do you have a farrier that specializes in founder, what are they doing or suggesting? Are they working with your vet? ~Are you wanting to do supplements? if it would help her...you bet! Would HorseShoers Secret Supplements help? Not the right type of supplement for founder case ~What was done at the onset? Stall duty, vet check, ocean foot soaking, bute . ~How young was the horse when it began getting shod? I shod her for about 1 y or so when I got her at age 10she is now 15 ~Are you wanting to use barefoot methods, or use shoes? prefer not to use shoes BUT if she needs them now... There are many different shoeing methods out there that really can help a foundered horse, and none of them that I am thinking envolve using metal shoes that nail on. MANY that work. can you give me examples? Boots with styrofoam, probably beyond that by now Boots with turnout Cuff shoe package from Gene Ovnick---srews in on the sides Clog package---can be screwed in from the top Polysteel Natural balance shoe--can be screwed in from the top Go to: hopeforsoundness.com safergrass.org fortheloveofthehorse.com Gene Ovnick is a master farrier who believes in barefoot and studied wild horses. He also knows that sometimes a horse needs help, needs to be comfortable so he developed a whole amazing system to help with founder and the comfort of the horse. Go to those websites for a start, it can be a little overwhelmingjust listen to your horse, they can tell you when they are comfortable. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
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.Ok. Forget what I mostly said in the last post. NO SOaking. Ok...what do you suggest after a horse's first trim after foundering 8 wks earlier? She was getting better but after her trim, she is quite sore on one hoof. I have given her bute and am going to take her to the ocean when I get off of work. Does this mean she will either have to be shod or ez boot for the rest of her life? Or will it become less tender after time? Karen Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Ok...what do you suggest after a horse's first trim after foundering 8 wks earlier? She was getting better but after her trim, she is quite sore on one hoof. I have given her bute and am going to take her to the ocean when I get off of work. Does this mean she will either have to be shod or ez boot for the rest of her life? Or will it become less tender after time? i would do the styrofoam bedroom slippers after you get back from the beach. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
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--- Anna Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/1/07, Skye and Sally ~Fire Island [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not something that most trimmers cut into, so 5 years of good trims, they were off.but definatley call them, and let them know, so that way they can have the option of helping you and your horse out now. I like her so much and she's helped so much with my QH/TB terrible feet. I live in constant fear that she will get too busy and not want to travel the 68 miles each way any more. She always shows up for our appointments not more than 10 minutes late, is kind to my horses and very knowledgeable. I really don't want to offend her or sound mad. We help our clients with feet issues Over the Phone, all the time. And if we are communicated with, we can stop by when we are in that area the next time. Most of our clients are at least 50 miles away from us..most of them are a 2 hour drive, as there are no freeways here, just curving country roads. The last thing Sally would ever want to do, is to trim too deep and then either not hear about it, or hear about 6 -8 weeks after, when she could be of no help. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
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--- Karen Swingley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .Ok. Forget what I mostly said in the last post. NO SOaking. Ok...what do you suggest after a horse's first trim after foundering 8 wks earlier? She was getting better but after her trim, she is quite sore on one hoof. I have given her bute and am going to take her to the ocean when I get off of work. Does this mean she will either have to be shod or ez boot for the rest of her life? Or will it become less tender after time? Karen Well there are So many varibles with founder, that we would have to know more...Sally does an intake with a foundered horses that can last up to 2 hours with getting bits of information, and finding out what the owner is able and willing to do. I could not come up with an answer that I know would help, and not hurt your horse based on so little. So many varibles... ~Cause--feed, road founder, cushings, stress etc ~horses weight ~terrain ~hoof care ~Are you wanting to do supplements? ~What was done at the onset? ~How young was the horse when it began getting shod? ~Are you wanting to use barefoot methods, or use shoes? There are many different shoeing methods out there that really can help a foundered horse, and none of them that I am thinking envolve using metal shoes that nail on. MANY that work. Barefoot can work as well, depends on a lot of factors, and the owners availible time and energy. THis is just a quick example of things we ask when taking on a foundered horse. Usually, with good care a horse can get better after timeand depending on their health and the terrain they live on they could be barefoot again.. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
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I use it mostly for dryness. Its very sandy here and it helps keep my horses feet moist. janice Turpentine is a drying agent...it removes oil.( Oil strippers in the paint section in the hardware store) It will give a temperary softening effect because it removes the oil on the hoof thus allowing water to come in, then out again.if you use turpentine, put the hoof in water then put on an oil barrier. Oil is associated with keeping hoofs moist.a lot of the products out there though, have both a drying agent and a moistening agent in the same product. It drives Sallys Doctor mind crazy at times. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
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Turpentine is a drying agent...it removes oil.( Oil strippers in the paint section in the hardware store) No, actually that's backwards Skye. Cary and I have lots of antique furniture that we've refinished. The stripper-stuff is not the same as turpentine. You strip the old finish off and then clean it with turpentine. The turpentine is actually a little oily, and I was told it put back some of the moisture/oils that the strippers remove. (My father was the last of a long line of cabinetmakers in his family - I'm pretty sure about this one!) Karen Thomas, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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turpentine. You strip the old finish off and then clean it with turpentine. The turpentine is actually a little oily, and I was told it put back some of the moisture/oils that the strippers remove. i wonder about different climates too... like I had an old timer uncle who told us not to shelac outdoor wooden furniture. He said it works other places but here it will rot the wood from the inside out. interesting. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
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e. You strip the old finish off and then clean it with turpentine. The turpentine is actually a little oily, and I was told it put back some of the moisture/oils that the strippers remove. (My father was the last of a long line of cabinetmakers in his family - I'm pretty sure about this one!) Mabye you guys have a defferent type out there...the turpentine here dries the hoof wall.it removes the hoofs own oils.Mabye there are 2 types. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
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Mabye you guys have a defferent type out there...the turpentine here dries the hoof wall.it removes the hoofs own oils.Mabye there are 2 types. also maybe if its something you do every day it makes a difference. I rarely put any type of stuff on my horse's feet. unless i have to doctor them or I am concerned or something. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
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When I feel my horses feet are dry...I use the following hoof spray. Works great, and no caustic petroleum-based chemicals involvedjust lanolin and vitamin A http://www.healthyhaircare.com/hoof_moisture.htm Wanda
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So many varibles... ~Cause--feed, road founder, cushings, stress etc I believe the cause was lush green spring grass plus I think she was hogging the other horse's grain(when i wasn't looking) ~horses weight She initially was overweight but after she foundered 8 wks ago, she was confined to stall duty and shed quite a few pounds. ~terrain ranges from beach sand to gravel roads ~hoof care trimmed every 8 wks ~Are you wanting to do supplements? if it would help her...you bet! Would HorseShoers Secret Supplements help? ~What was done at the onset? Stall duty, vet check, ocean foot soaking, bute . ~How young was the horse when it began getting shod? I shod her for about 1 y or so when I got her at age 10she is now 15 ~Are you wanting to use barefoot methods, or use shoes? prefer not to use shoes BUT if she needs them now... There are many different shoeing methods out there that really can help a foundered horse, and none of them that I am thinking envolve using metal shoes that nail on. MANY that work. can you give me examples? The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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i would do the styrofoam bedroom slippers after you get back from the beach. Janice -- Okis this the suggestion from the gal who had the fox tied around her and her horse's neck?? I can't wait to see pics of the slippersI am thinking bunny slippers! Karen All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- Anna Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gloi and the horses got their feet trimmed on Thurs. They were long and chipped even though it had only been 5 weeks. My farrier/barefoot trimmer has been doing my horses for over 5 years with excellent results. She used the nippers which she does on occasion, but this time I think she took his a bit too short. Starting Friday afternoon he seemed to be very sore. Not wanting to move much and wanting to hang out in the soft stalls. His 'white line' actually looks pink. I have some bute I could give him but worry about him moving too much and maybe making things worse. Don't know. Any suggestions. Thanks, Anna (who can hardly imagine how bad Raven must feel, when I hurt seeing Gloi being just uncomfortable.) This can happen from time to timejust let your farrier or barefoot trimmer know that they were sore after the trim, and tell them about the discoloration change in their white line. We like it if we get a call when the owner notices something, that way we can talk to the owner directley and give them suggestions of what to do. We can never help 6 weeks later when we come back out.So call your trimmer, its their job to help you out if their is an issue with the trim. Aside from that soreness from something like this usually only lasts a few daysgive them the best pasture or paddock for soreness, and soaking is epsom salt can be a mild relief from any discomfort. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
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Ok. Forget what I mostly said in the last post. NO SOaking. Silly me for thinking too early in the morning.. I would not use turpentine or Keratex, or tuff stuff or anything like that if there is any pink..because if there is pink, live sole could be exposed...not something that most trimmers cut into, so 5 years of good trims, they were off.but definatley call them, and let them know, so that way they can have the option of helping you and your horse out now. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
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I would not use turpentine or Keratex, or tuff stuff or anything like that if there is any pink..because if there is pink, live sole could be exposed... That's what I was thinking. As for the Venice turpentine, it's a mild caustic, which actually causes a blistering action. I've heard that it can be used - very sparingly - to toughen up soles for horses just starting to go barefoot, but I can't imagine putting it on sensitive tissue. I considered it a couple of times many years ago when we were making the barefoot transition, but never did, since mine made the move without any obvious pain. I guess I'm saying I don't know that I'd always avoid it, but that I wouldn't use it on a whim either. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/880 - Release Date: 6/29/2007 2:15 PM
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On 7/1/07, Skye and Sally ~Fire Island [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not something that most trimmers cut into, so 5 years of good trims, they were off.but definatley call them, and let them know, so that way they can have the option of helping you and your horse out now. I like her so much and she's helped so much with my QH/TB terrible feet. I live in constant fear that she will get too busy and not want to travel the 68 miles each way any more. She always shows up for our appointments not more than 10 minutes late, is kind to my horses and very knowledgeable. I really don't want to offend her or sound mad. Fortunately my horses are mostly well behaved and easy to work with. Sometimes Gloi will pull his front feet away and was a little worse than usual on Thurs., but it was his back feet that are sore. He's not lame. I didn't realize he was sore until I got on him bareback on Fri evening in the paddock and he was very reluctant to move. He walked to the softest area of the paddock and just stood there. I quickly realized that something was up, got off checked his legs and feet. That's when I saw the pink. From the looks of the stall and paddock area Sat pm it looks like they were there most of the day-was at a graduation party out of town. Today, its back to business as usual. They spent all night in the pasture-breakfast at the barn, followed by a nap in the stalls eat a little hay. Then its off to the pasture until the heat and flies get to them, then its up to the pine trees for more hay and a nap in the shade. Back to the barn in the afternoon for water and to stand in the stalls in front of the fans. The white line didn't look pink this morning. Its funny tho. Gloi was usually in one stall by himself while the mare and gelding would be in the other one. Now its never Gloi alone. They are taking turns in the stall with him. I don't know maybe the other gelding and mare are mad at each other or they are being protective of Gloi. Thanks for all the input. Anna
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welll . But I gotta tell you this :) Where I live is the turpentine capital of the universe. I mean, its how people made a living at the turn of the century and sent turpentine all over the world, that and yellow pine. I grew up in a home where my parents thought you could cure cancer with turpentine. and one of the things EVERYBODY knows around here about turpentine is that it Takes away the soreness and human beings put it on their sore thumbs etc. But this is also what I know... the turpentine we always had around the house for medicinal purposes came in a little blue bottle and did not seem thick and goopy and syrupy like horse turpentine so maybe its different. but turpentine is known for its pain and inflammation reducing properties. And I always hear that venice turpentine is just regular turpentine but with more antiseptic properties... But turpentine has been used here for everything from curing mange to healing a deep cut etc etc. I use it mostly for dryness. Its very sandy here and it helps keep my horses feet moist. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Suggestions for sore feet
Gloi and the horses got their feet trimmed on Thurs. They were long and chipped even though it had only been 5 weeks. My farrier/barefoot trimmer has been doing my horses for over 5 years with excellent results. She used the nippers which she does on occasion, but this time I think she took his a bit too short. Starting Friday afternoon he seemed to be very sore. Not wanting to move much and wanting to hang out in the soft stalls. His 'white line' actually looks pink. I have some bute I could give him but worry about him moving too much and maybe making things worse. Don't know. Any suggestions. Thanks, Anna (who can hardly imagine how bad Raven must feel, when I hurt seeing Gloi being just uncomfortable.)
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Anna, If you see red in the ring he really is cut too close.. Let him stand where he is comfortable no rocks around and I was told years ago to use turpintine to toughen feet that have been cut too short. Paint the soles of the feet with this, just the soles. POOR THING..Bute would help but its like anything else if you kill the pain then they more and hurt themselves even more. There is probably more stuff over the counter now days than when I heard and used that remedy. Senior Citizen here. Sylvia ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told years ago to use turpintine to toughen feet that have been cut too short. And my farrier told me to use Iodine for this. Frankly, being a health care worker, I would use Iodine. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
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1. paint with venice turpentine. 2. stand him on styrofoam and draw an outline of his feet. cut them out, tape them on with duct tape. it works. also, for some relief you can dig a hole where they have to stand, where they are tied, whatever, fill the hole with water and make goopy mud, add chipped ice until its just a thick goopy icebath. This is good for founder onset until the vet can get there... Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Suggestions for sore feet
Janice, Now I don't feel so crazy about the turpintine thing. I would stand the horse in water/mud it draws out the fever in the foot. My friend just went through ground founder with her horse and it took months for her to get better. She is a big mare. I sure have heard them all over the years. As soon as I get around to saddling my horse I will take a picture of him and post. He has a perfect seagull on his right shoulder. He is very cute. His sister was very cute until you got on her and she was shot out of a cannon. I hope he will be quiet or he will be a yard ornament forever. Sylvia ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [IceHorses] Suggestions for sore feet
On 30/06/07, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my farrier told me to use Iodine for this. Frankly, being a health care worker, I would use Iodine. Susan in NV I would use iodine too. If I can't smear something on myself...it doesn't go on my horses. He just needs some rest for a while, on soft bedding...You'll notice when he starts feeling better. Wanda
