Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Cakra
Tergantung orang senengnya dan keperluannya buat apa. 
Kalau saya disuruh milih htc Evo2nd sama Dakota ya milih evo.
Tapi kalau istri biar dibeliin iphone sama SGs2, tetep maunya pake torch.

Biarinlah.

Hidup Nokia!

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 16, 2011, at 16:38, Arya  wrote:

> Sampe buka kamus nih di device yg lagi satu.. Wkwkwk...
> Klo pendapat saya yah boros aja langganan pkt bis tp gag bs bebas browsing 
> liat yutub dkk..
> Dng range harga 50-60rb..
> Pkt data non bb udh bs mlakukan itu smua.. Klo bb setau saya harus yg 
> termahal (100rb an) *maaf klo salah krn gag pk bb...
> 
> 
> 
> ...::: 009-0012:::...
>  - Forza Milan -
> 
> On 16 Sep 2011, at 16:08, "William Lie"  wrote:
> 
>> O iya, ada apps itu ya.
>> *buru2 install dari market buat baca postingan milis*
>>  
>> Regards,
>> William Lie
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Darma Suyoga
>> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
>> Android
>> 
>> Hua google translate gw macet brohhh tulungg
>> 
>> *zing kabur*
>> 
>> @darma78
>> hTc supersonic
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2011 4:10 PM, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> > Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf
>> > 
>> > To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>> > 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: ayell 
>> > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26 
>> > To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
>> > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
>> > Android
>> > 
>> > "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
>> > Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
>> > 
>> > "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>> > If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
>> > 
>> > But my point of view is:
>> > "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
>> > 
>> > Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
>> > I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
>> > And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > But my main problem is:
>> > "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
>> > yourself
>> > 
>> > No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
>> > Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
>> > 
>> > Salam
>> > On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> >> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
>> >> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>> >>
>> >> "Current choices:
>> >> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>> >>Service: BB partners
>> >>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>> >>
>> >> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>> >>
>> >> Moreover
>> >> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
>> >> service to customer.. monthly.
>> >> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
>> >> bigger and bigger"
>> >>
>> >> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, 
>> >> Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share 
>> >> from purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for 
>> >> using the services they provide is greedy when they don't have another 
>> >> income sources ???
>> >>
>> >> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: ayell 
>> >>
>> >> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
>> >> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
>> >> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bi

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Ibnu Maksum
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Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Arya
Sampe buka kamus nih di device yg lagi satu.. Wkwkwk...
Klo pendapat saya yah boros aja langganan pkt bis tp gag bs bebas browsing liat 
yutub dkk..
Dng range harga 50-60rb..
Pkt data non bb udh bs mlakukan itu smua.. Klo bb setau saya harus yg termahal 
(100rb an) *maaf klo salah krn gag pk bb...



...::: 009-0012:::...
 - Forza Milan -

On 16 Sep 2011, at 16:08, "William Lie"  wrote:

> O iya, ada apps itu ya.
> *buru2 install dari market buat baca postingan milis*
>  
> Regards,
> William Lie
> - Original Message -
> From: Darma Suyoga
> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
> 
> Hua google translate gw macet brohhh tulungg
> 
> *zing kabur*
> 
> @darma78
> hTc supersonic
> 
> On Sep 16, 2011 4:10 PM, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> > Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf
> > 
> > To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ayell 
> > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26 
> > To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> > Android
> > 
> > "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
> > Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
> > 
> > "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> > If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
> > 
> > But my point of view is:
> > "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
> > 
> > Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
> > I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
> > And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
> > 
> > 
> > But my main problem is:
> > "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
> > yourself
> > 
> > No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
> > Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
> > 
> > Salam
> > On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> >> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
> >> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> >>
> >> "Current choices:
> >> 1. RIM, Product: BB
> >>Service: BB partners
> >>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
> >>
> >> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
> >>
> >> Moreover
> >> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> >> service to customer.. monthly.
> >> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
> >> bigger and bigger"
> >>
> >> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, 
> >> Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share 
> >> from purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for 
> >> using the services they provide is greedy when they don't have another 
> >> income sources ???
> >>
> >> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: ayell 
> >>
> >> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
> >> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> >> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> >> Android
> >>
> >> Well,
> >>
> >> Quote:
> >> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
> >> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
> >> "
> >> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
> >> and reliability.
> >> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
> >>
> >> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
> >> quality here"
> >> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
> >> No need to argue about local netwo

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Adrianto G
Wew..
Salut buat argumen kedua nya..
Bener2 bisa buka pikiran gw, meski rada mikir buat nerjemahinnya, hehe...
Intinya kembali kepada kebutuhan individu, ada yg ngerasa "rugi" bayar cepek
utk fitur yg terbatas, ada juga yg ngerasa beruntung bgt cuma bayar cepek
bisa menjalin relasi bisnis yg luas.
Begitu pula sebaliknya..

So kita nikmati saja teknologi ini dengan segala perkembangan nya.

Regards
On Sep 16, 2011 3:27 PM, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> Makanya, paging si ArMad bilang tanah belakang rumah gratis pasang BTS
SMART
> Ha..ha..ha..ha..ha
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Darma Suyoga 
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:25:36
> To: 
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan
Aplikasi Android
>
> Hua google translate gw macet brohhh tulungg
>
> *zing kabur*
>
> @darma78
> hTc supersonic
> On Sep 16, 2011 4:10 PM, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf
>>
>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ayell 
>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26
>> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi
> Android
>>
>> "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
>> Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
>>
>> "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
>>
>> But my point of view is:
>> "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
>>
>> Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
>> I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
>> And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
>>
>>
>> But my main problem is:
>> "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
>> yourself
>>
>> No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
>> Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
>>
>> Salam
>> On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>>> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
>>> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>>>
>>> "Current choices:
>>> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>>> Service: BB partners
>>> Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>>>
>>> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>>>
>>> Moreover
>>> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
>>> service to customer.. monthly.
>>> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting
> bigger and bigger"
>>>
>>> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising,
> Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share
from
> purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using
the
> services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income
sources
> ???
>>>
>>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ayell 
>>>
>>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
>>> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community<
id-android@googlegroups.com
>>
>>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi
> Android
>>>
>>> Well,
>>>
>>> Quote:
>>> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
>>> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
>>> "
>>> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
>>> and reliability.
>>> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
>>>
>>> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
>>> quality here"
>>> I think i'm not as mobile as you are

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Anwar Thamrin
Seru deh argumentnya.
apapun gadgetnya buat saya yg penting dienjoy aja.
Dah ga enjoy ya dijual :)

Anyway saya yg dulunya bb fans beralih jadi bb less karena puyeng ama
broadcastnya bbm. Setelah bb less hidup lebih tenang. Kekeke.

Imo bb service cuman menang di bbm. Tapi sekarang dah banyak substitutenya
seperti whatsapp, gtalk, viber (yg ini bb blom bisa loh), sisanya ga ada yg
menarik lagi dari bb. Peace yaaa

Regards,
Anwar Thamrin
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On Sep 16, 2011 3:07 PM, "ayell"  wrote:
> "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
> Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
>
> "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
>
> But my point of view is:
> "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
>
> Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
> I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
> And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
>
>
> But my main problem is:
> "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
> yourself
>
> No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
> Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
>
> Salam
> On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
>> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>>
>> "Current choices:
>> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>>Service: BB partners
>>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>>
>> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>>
>> Moreover
>> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
>> service to customer.. monthly.
>> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting
bigger and bigger"
>>
>> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising,
Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from
purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the
services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources
???
>>
>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ayell 
>>
>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
>> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi
Android
>>
>> Well,
>>
>> Quote:
>> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
>> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
>> "
>> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
>> and reliability.
>> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
>>
>> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
>> quality here"
>> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
>> No need to argue about local network quality
>>
>> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
>> ask
>> you for your money each months??
>>
>> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
>> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
>> Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
>>
>> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
>> quote on previous email: (see point 1)
>>
>> "Current choices:
>> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>>Service: BB partners
>>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
>> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>>Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>>Share: 100% local operator..
>> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>>Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>>Share: 100% local operator.. "
>>
>> Can you see the difference??
>> Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
>> customer money.
>>
>> And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
>> service to customer.. monthly.
>> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and
>> getting bigger and bigger
>>
>> On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> > Here&#x

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik William Lie
O iya, ada apps itu ya.
*buru2 install dari market buat baca postingan milis*

Regards,
William Lie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Darma Suyoga 
  To: id-android@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
Android


  Hua google translate gw macet brohhh tulungg


  *zing kabur*


  @darma78
  hTc supersonic

  On Sep 16, 2011 4:10 PM, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
  > Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf
  > 
  > To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: ayell 
  > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
  > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26 
  > To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
  > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
  > Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
Android
  > 
  > "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
  > Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
  > 
  > "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
  > If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
  > 
  > But my point of view is:
  > "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
  > 
  > Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
  > I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
  > And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
  > 
  > 
  > But my main problem is:
  > "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
  > yourself
  > 
  > No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
  > Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
  > 
  > Salam
  > On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
  >> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
  >> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
  >>
  >> "Current choices:
  >> 1. RIM, Product: BB
  >>Service: BB partners
  >>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
  >>
  >> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
  >>
  >> Moreover
  >> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
  >> service to customer.. monthly.
  >> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
bigger and bigger"
  >>
  >> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, 
Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from 
purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the 
services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources ???
  >>
  >> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> -Original Message-
  >> From: ayell 
  >>
  >> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
  >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
  >> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
  >> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
  >> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
Android
  >>
  >> Well,
  >>
  >> Quote:
  >> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
  >> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
  >> "
  >> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
  >> and reliability.
  >> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
  >>
  >> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
  >> quality here"
  >> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
  >> No need to argue about local network quality
  >>
  >> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
  >> ask
  >> you for your money each months??
  >>
  >> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
  >> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
  >> Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
  >>
  >> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
  >> quote on previous email: (see point 1)
  >>
  >> "Current choices:
  >> 1. RIM, Product: BB
  >>Service: BB partners
  >>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
  >> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
  >>Service: Any operator that can provide internet
  >>S

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Andi - leo5354
Makanya, paging si ArMad bilang tanah belakang rumah gratis pasang BTS SMART
Ha..ha..ha..ha..ha

To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life

-Original Message-
From: Darma Suyoga 
Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:25:36 
To: 
Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
Android

Hua google translate gw macet brohhh tulungg

*zing kabur*

@darma78
hTc supersonic
On Sep 16, 2011 4:10 PM, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi
Android
>
> "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
> Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
>
> "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
>
> But my point of view is:
> "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
>
> Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
> I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
> And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
>
>
> But my main problem is:
> "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
> yourself
>
> No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
> Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
>
> Salam
> On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
>> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>>
>> "Current choices:
>> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>>Service: BB partners
>>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>>
>> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>>
>> Moreover
>> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
>> service to customer.. monthly.
>> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting
bigger and bigger"
>>
>> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising,
Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from
purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the
services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources
???
>>
>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ayell 
>>
>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
>> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi
Android
>>
>> Well,
>>
>> Quote:
>> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
>> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
>> "
>> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
>> and reliability.
>> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
>>
>> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
>> quality here"
>> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
>> No need to argue about local network quality
>>
>> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
>> ask
>> you for your money each months??
>>
>> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
>> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
>> Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
>>
>> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
>> quote on previous email: (see point 1)
>>
>> "Current choices:
>> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>>Service: BB partners
>>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
>> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>>Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>>Share: 100% local operator..
>> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>>Service: Any operator that can 

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Darma Suyoga
Hua google translate gw macet brohhh tulungg

*zing kabur*

@darma78
hTc supersonic
On Sep 16, 2011 4:10 PM, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi
Android
>
> "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
> Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
>
> "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
>
> But my point of view is:
> "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
>
> Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
> I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
> And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
>
>
> But my main problem is:
> "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
> yourself
>
> No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
> Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
>
> Salam
> On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
>> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>>
>> "Current choices:
>> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>>Service: BB partners
>>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>>
>> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>>
>> Moreover
>> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
>> service to customer.. monthly.
>> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting
bigger and bigger"
>>
>> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising,
Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from
purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the
services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources
???
>>
>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ayell 
>>
>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
>> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi
Android
>>
>> Well,
>>
>> Quote:
>> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
>> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
>> "
>> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
>> and reliability.
>> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
>>
>> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
>> quality here"
>> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
>> No need to argue about local network quality
>>
>> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
>> ask
>> you for your money each months??
>>
>> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
>> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
>> Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
>>
>> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
>> quote on previous email: (see point 1)
>>
>> "Current choices:
>> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>>Service: BB partners
>>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
>> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>>Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>>Share: 100% local operator..
>> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>>Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>>Share: 100% local operator.. "
>>
>> Can you see the difference??
>> Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
>> customer money.
>>
>> And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
>> service to customer.. monthly.
>> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and
>

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Willy Mularto
ya ya..i love you full deh pokoke :D




On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:07 PM, ayell wrote:

> "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
> Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
> 
> "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
> 
> But my point of view is:
> "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
> 
> Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
> I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
> And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
> 
> 
> But my main problem is:
> "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
> yourself
> 
> No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
> Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
> 
> Salam
> On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
>> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>> 
>> "Current choices:
>> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>>Service: BB partners
>>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>> 
>> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>> 
>> Moreover
>> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
>> service to customer.. monthly.
>> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
>> bigger and bigger"
>> 
>> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, Apple 
>> by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from 
>> purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the 
>> services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources 
>> ???
>> 
>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ayell 
>> 
>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
>> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
>> Android
>> 
>> Well,
>> 
>> Quote:
>> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
>> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
>> "
>> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
>> and reliability.
>> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
>> 
>> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
>> quality here"
>> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
>> No need to argue about local network quality
>> 
>> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
>> ask
>> you for your money each months??
>> 
>> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
>> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
>> Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
>> 
>> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
>> quote on previous email: (see point 1)
>> 
>> "Current choices:
>> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>>Service: BB partners
>>Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
>> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>>Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>>Share: 100% local operator..
>> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>>Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>>Share: 100% local operator.. "
>> 
>> Can you see the difference??
>> Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
>> customer money.
>> 
>> And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
>> service to customer.. monthly.
>> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and
>> getting bigger and bigger
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>>> Here's my opinion
>> 
>>> So my question:
>>> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
>>> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
>>> 100kBps download speed, maybe?
>> 
>>> I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services whi

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Andi - leo5354
Yup, itulah gunanya milis
Ajang bertukar pikiran dgn opini yg berbeda

To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life

-Original Message-
From: ayell 
Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:21:55 
To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android


Ga ada yg salah dri apa yg lo bilang bro.
Mungkin gw yg salah, gw minta maaf.

Love this milis karena bisa bertukar pikiran  dgn banyak teman , right
bro?


On Sep 16, 3:32 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
>
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
>
> "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
> Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
>
> "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
>
> But my point of view is:
> "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
>
> Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
> I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
> And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
>
> But my main problem is:
> "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
> yourself
>
> No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
> Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
>
> Salam
> On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> > The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
> > For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>
> > "Current choices:
> > 1. RIM, Product: BB
> >    Service: BB partners
> >    Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>
> > If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>
> > Moreover
> > "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> > service to customer.. monthly.
> > They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
> > bigger and bigger"
>
> > Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, 
> > Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share 
> > from purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for 
> > using the services they provide is greedy when they don't have another 
> > income sources ???
>
> > To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ayell 
>
> > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
> > To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> > Android
>
> > Well,
>
> > Quote:
> > ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
> > than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
> > "
> > I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
> > and reliability.
> > Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
>
> > "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
> > quality here"
> > I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
> > No need to argue about local network quality
>
> > "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
> > ask
> > you for your money each months??
>
> > They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
> > mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
> > Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
>
> > I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
> > quote on previous email: (see point 1)
>
> > "Current choices:
> > 1. RIM, Product: BB
> >    Service: BB partners
> >    Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
> > 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
> >    Service: Any operator that can provide internet
> >    Share: 100% local operator..
> > 3. Google, Product: Andro

[id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik ayell

Ga ada yg salah dri apa yg lo bilang bro.
Mungkin gw yg salah, gw minta maaf.

Love this milis karena bisa bertukar pikiran  dgn banyak teman , right
bro?


On Sep 16, 3:32 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
>
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
>
> "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
> Yeah.. i know that's the trigger
>
> "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"
>
> But my point of view is:
> "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"
>
> Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
> I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
> And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.
>
> But my main problem is:
> "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
> yourself
>
> No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
> Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.
>
> Salam
> On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> > The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
> > For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>
> > "Current choices:
> > 1. RIM, Product: BB
> >    Service: BB partners
> >    Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>
> > If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>
> > Moreover
> > "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> > service to customer.. monthly.
> > They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
> > bigger and bigger"
>
> > Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, 
> > Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share 
> > from purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for 
> > using the services they provide is greedy when they don't have another 
> > income sources ???
>
> > To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ayell 
>
> > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
> > To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> > Android
>
> > Well,
>
> > Quote:
> > ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
> > than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
> > "
> > I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
> > and reliability.
> > Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
>
> > "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
> > quality here"
> > I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
> > No need to argue about local network quality
>
> > "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
> > ask
> > you for your money each months??
>
> > They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
> > mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
> > Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
>
> > I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
> > quote on previous email: (see point 1)
>
> > "Current choices:
> > 1. RIM, Product: BB
> >    Service: BB partners
> >    Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
> > 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
> >    Service: Any operator that can provide internet
> >    Share: 100% local operator..
> > 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
> >    Service: Any operator that can provide internet
> >    Share: 100% local operator.. "
>
> > Can you see the difference??
> > Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
> > customer money.
>
> > And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> > service to customer.. monthly.
> > They can ma

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Andi - leo5354
Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf

To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life

-Original Message-
From: ayell 
Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26 
To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

"The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
Yeah.. i know that's the trigger

"For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"

But my point of view is:
"If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"

Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.


But my main problem is:
"Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
yourself

No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.

Salam
On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>
> "Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>    Service: BB partners
>    Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>
> Moreover
> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> service to customer.. monthly.
> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
> bigger and bigger"
>
> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, Apple 
> by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from 
> purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the 
> services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources 
> ???
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
>
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
>
> Well,
>
> Quote:
> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
> "
> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
> and reliability.
> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
>
> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
> quality here"
> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
> No need to argue about local network quality
>
> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
> ask
> you for your money each months??
>
> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
> Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
>
> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
> quote on previous email: (see point 1)
>
> "Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>    Service: BB partners
>    Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>    Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>    Share: 100% local operator..
> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>    Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>    Share: 100% local operator.. "
>
> Can you see the difference??
> Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
> customer money.
>
> And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> service to customer.. monthly.
> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and
> getting bigger and bigger
>
> On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> > Here's my opinion
>
> > So my question:
> > With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
> > is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
> > 100kBps download speed, maybe?
>
> > I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me 
> > BIS is more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's including 
> > Android & iOS).
> > As for browsing & DL speed, I

[id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik ayell
"The main problem is your "greedy" opinion"
Yeah.. i know that's the trigger

"For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??"

But my point of view is:
"If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??"

Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about.
I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is.
And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here.


But my main problem is:
"Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated
yourself

No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc.
Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about.

Salam
On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
>
> "Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>    Service: BB partners
>    Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
>
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
>
> Moreover
> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> service to customer.. monthly.
> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
> bigger and bigger"
>
> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, Apple 
> by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from 
> purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the 
> services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources 
> ???
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ayell 
>
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
>
> Well,
>
> Quote:
> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
> "
> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
> and reliability.
> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
>
> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
> quality here"
> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
> No need to argue about local network quality
>
> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
> ask
> you for your money each months??
>
> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
> Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
>
> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
> quote on previous email: (see point 1)
>
> "Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>    Service: BB partners
>    Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>    Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>    Share: 100% local operator..
> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>    Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>    Share: 100% local operator.. "
>
> Can you see the difference??
> Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
> customer money.
>
> And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> service to customer.. monthly.
> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and
> getting bigger and bigger
>
> On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> > Here's my opinion
>
> > So my question:
> > With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
> > is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
> > 100kBps download speed, maybe?
>
> > I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me 
> > BIS is more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's including 
> > Android & iOS).
> > As for browsing & DL speed, I seldom need 100kBps on mobile (my work is 75% 
> > on the road and we all know how good the network quality here). If I want 
> > to browse or get big files I will do that at the comfort of my office or 
> > home connection
>
> > Conclusion:
> > is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
> > you for your money each months??
>
> > They don'

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Andi - leo5354
Santai aja bro
Gue malah menganggap ini tukar pikiran. Masing2 ngasih opini secara sehat. 
Itung2 nambah pandangan juga lah. 
Mungkin ada yg menganggap BIS sebagai extra cost, pdhal menurut gue BIS ya sama 
aja kaya biaya langganan mobile internet di platform lain.
Toh kalau misalnya kita pakai Android atau iOS tp ga dipakein mobile internet 
ya ga guna juga kalo dibawa kemana2 yg ga ada wifi
Masing2 platform ada plus minus
Tinggal balik ke kitanya selaku user aja, kebutuhan kita gimana ya disesuaikan.
Setuju soal pendapat soal pemilihan kata2 karena kita semua kan org2 terpelajar
Ha..ha..ha..ha..ha

To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life

-Original Message-
From: Willy Mularto 
Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:47:38 
To: 
Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
Android

Piss..piss ayo pada berpelukan :)
Mungkin TS nya hrs lebih bijak dalam pemilihan kata-kata. Jgn terlalu bombastis 
yah. Opini boleh tapi tetap dijaga perasaan orang lain. Coba kamu bayangin 
bagaimana rasanya dihinda, dicaci, dimaki, diinjak2...weks.. jd sinetroin deh 
saia. Btw Puteri Yang Ditukar itu dah ketemu lagi belom sih yang ilang itu? 
Wkwkwkwkwk




On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Andi - leo5354 wrote:

> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> 
> "Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>   Service: BB partners
>   Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
> 
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
> 
> Moreover
> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> service to customer.. monthly.
> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
> bigger and bigger"
> 
> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, Apple 
> by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from 
> purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the 
> services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources 
> ???
> 
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57 
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
> 
> Well,
> 
> Quote:
> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
> "
> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
> and reliability.
> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
> 
> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
> quality here"
> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
> No need to argue about local network quality
> 
> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
> ask
> you for your money each months??
> 
> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
> Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
> 
> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
> quote on previous email: (see point 1)
> 
> "Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>   Service: BB partners
>   Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>   Share: 100% local operator..
> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>   Share: 100% local operator.. "
> 
> Can you see the difference??
> Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
> customer money.
> 
> And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> service to customer.. monthly.
> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and
> getting bigger and bigger
> 
> 
> On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> Here's my opinion
>> 
>> So my question:
>> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
>> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
>> 100kBps download speed, maybe?
>> 
>> I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me BIS 
>> is more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's includin

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Willy Mularto
Piss..piss ayo pada berpelukan :)
Mungkin TS nya hrs lebih bijak dalam pemilihan kata-kata. Jgn terlalu bombastis 
yah. Opini boleh tapi tetap dijaga perasaan orang lain. Coba kamu bayangin 
bagaimana rasanya dihinda, dicaci, dimaki, diinjak2...weks.. jd sinetroin deh 
saia. Btw Puteri Yang Ditukar itu dah ketemu lagi belom sih yang ilang itu? 
Wkwkwkwkwk




On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Andi - leo5354 wrote:

> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself
> 
> "Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>   Service: BB partners
>   Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"
> 
> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??
> 
> Moreover
> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> service to customer.. monthly.
> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting 
> bigger and bigger"
> 
> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, Apple 
> by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from 
> purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the 
> services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources 
> ???
> 
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57 
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
> 
> Well,
> 
> Quote:
> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
> "
> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
> and reliability.
> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.
> 
> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
> quality here"
> I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
> No need to argue about local network quality
> 
> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
> ask
> you for your money each months??
> 
> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
> Then what's the different with BIS ??? "
> 
> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
> quote on previous email: (see point 1)
> 
> "Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>   Service: BB partners
>   Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>   Share: 100% local operator..
> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>   Share: 100% local operator.. "
> 
> Can you see the difference??
> Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
> customer money.
> 
> And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
> service to customer.. monthly.
> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and
> getting bigger and bigger
> 
> 
> On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> Here's my opinion
>> 
>> So my question:
>> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
>> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
>> 100kBps download speed, maybe?
>> 
>> I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me BIS 
>> is more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's including 
>> Android & iOS).
>> As for browsing & DL speed, I seldom need 100kBps on mobile (my work is 75% 
>> on the road and we all know how good the network quality here). If I want to 
>> browse or get big files I will do that at the comfort of my office or home 
>> connection
>> 
>> Conclusion:
>> is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
>> you for your money each months??
>> 
>> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on mobile u 
>> pay the provider for mobile internet. Then what's the different with BIS ???
>> 
>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ayell 
>> 
>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-16 Terurut Topik Andi - leo5354
The main problem is your "greedy" opinion
For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself

"Current choices:
1. RIM, Product: BB
   Service: BB partners
   Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator"

If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??

Moreover
"And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
service to customer.. monthly.
They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting bigger 
and bigger"

Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, Apple by 
selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from purchase in 
Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the services they 
provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources ???

To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life

-Original Message-
From: ayell 
Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57 
To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

Well,

Quote:
".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
"
I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
and reliability.
Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.

"my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
quality here"
I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
No need to argue about local network quality

"is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
ask
you for your money each months??

They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
Then what's the different with BIS ??? "

I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
quote on previous email: (see point 1)

"Current choices:
1. RIM, Product: BB
   Service: BB partners
   Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
   Share: 100% local operator..
3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
   Share: 100% local operator.. "

Can you see the difference??
Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
customer money.

And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
service to customer.. monthly.
They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and
getting bigger and bigger


On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> Here's my opinion
>
> So my question:
> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
> 100kBps download speed, maybe?
>
> I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me BIS 
> is more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's including 
> Android & iOS).
> As for browsing & DL speed, I seldom need 100kBps on mobile (my work is 75% 
> on the road and we all know how good the network quality here). If I want to 
> browse or get big files I will do that at the comfort of my office or home 
> connection
>
> Conclusion:
> is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
> you for your money each months??
>
> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on mobile u 
> pay the provider for mobile internet. Then what's the different with BIS ???
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
>
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:25:21
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
>
> well well
>
> Gw bukan asal ngomong
> Berikut jawaban gw.
>
> Gw setuju ada service ada cost.
> refer ke dua paramater diatas, maka pertanyaan nya adlah :
> 1. service2 apa saja yg diberikan?
> 2. berapa cost total/per-tiap service tersebut?
> 3. kepada siapa harga tersebut ditagihkan?
>
> ok let me answer:
> RIM
> 1. bbm, push mail, vpn?? talk about internet, talk about public
> network.. not private network
> 2. ~80k - 100k
> 3. User.. can't bbm via free wifi, right? if doesn't subscribe to rim
> service (whatt???)
>
> Google/Apple
> 1. Maps, Push mail, Chat service (with VOICE & VIDEO.. ohh yeahh), 3rd
> AWESOME apps & developer, teth

[id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-15 Terurut Topik ayell
Well,

Quote:
".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable
than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS).
"
I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility
and reliability.
Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you.

"my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network
quality here"
I think i'm not as mobile as you are.
No need to argue about local network quality

"is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services
ask
you for your money each months??

They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on
mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet.
Then what's the different with BIS ??? "

I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my
quote on previous email: (see point 1)

"Current choices:
1. RIM, Product: BB
   Service: BB partners
   Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator
2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
   Share: 100% local operator..
3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
   Share: 100% local operator.. "

Can you see the difference??
Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of
customer money.

And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their
service to customer.. monthly.
They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and
getting bigger and bigger


On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> Here's my opinion
>
> So my question:
> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
> 100kBps download speed, maybe?
>
> I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me BIS 
> is more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's including 
> Android & iOS).
> As for browsing & DL speed, I seldom need 100kBps on mobile (my work is 75% 
> on the road and we all know how good the network quality here). If I want to 
> browse or get big files I will do that at the comfort of my office or home 
> connection
>
> Conclusion:
> is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
> you for your money each months??
>
> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on mobile u 
> pay the provider for mobile internet. Then what's the different with BIS ???
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
>
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:25:21
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
>
> well well
>
> Gw bukan asal ngomong
> Berikut jawaban gw.
>
> Gw setuju ada service ada cost.
> refer ke dua paramater diatas, maka pertanyaan nya adlah :
> 1. service2 apa saja yg diberikan?
> 2. berapa cost total/per-tiap service tersebut?
> 3. kepada siapa harga tersebut ditagihkan?
>
> ok let me answer:
> RIM
> 1. bbm, push mail, vpn?? talk about internet, talk about public
> network.. not private network
> 2. ~80k - 100k
> 3. User.. can't bbm via free wifi, right? if doesn't subscribe to rim
> service (whatt???)
>
> Google/Apple
> 1. Maps, Push mail, Chat service (with VOICE & VIDEO.. ohh yeahh), 3rd
> AWESOME apps & developer, tethering
>    ohh satu lagi.. awesome devices, ecosystem and community
> 2. ~35k - 100k (carrier)
> 3. free to User.. as long as Connected to internet, you can do almost
> anything free on wifi.. yeahh anything with free
>
> Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>    Service: BB partners
>    Share: x% for rim, y% for local operator
> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>    Service: Wifi and/or Any operator that can provide internet
>    Share: 100% local operator..
> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>    Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>    Share: 100% local operator..
>
> So my question:
> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
> 100kBps download speed, maybe?
>
> Conclusion:
> is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
> you for your money each months??
>
> Well, itu jawaban gw.
>
> Salam
>
> On Sep 16, 9:08 am, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> > Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong.

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-15 Terurut Topik Willy Mularto
Sesuaikan kebutuhan masing-masing. Ga suka, ga butuh ya ga usah pake :)


*siap-siap wikenan..sluurrps*
On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Andi - leo5354 wrote:

> Here's my opinion
> 
> So my question:
> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
> 100kBps download speed, maybe?
> 
> I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me BIS 
> is more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's including 
> Android & iOS).
> As for browsing & DL speed, I seldom need 100kBps on mobile (my work is 75% 
> on the road and we all know how good the network quality here). If I want to 
> browse or get big files I will do that at the comfort of my office or home 
> connection
> 
> Conclusion:
> is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
> you for your money each months??
> 
> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on mobile u 
> pay the provider for mobile internet. Then what's the different with BIS ???
> 
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ayell 
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:25:21 
> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
> 
> well well
> 
> Gw bukan asal ngomong
> Berikut jawaban gw.
> 
> Gw setuju ada service ada cost.
> refer ke dua paramater diatas, maka pertanyaan nya adlah :
> 1. service2 apa saja yg diberikan?
> 2. berapa cost total/per-tiap service tersebut?
> 3. kepada siapa harga tersebut ditagihkan?
> 
> ok let me answer:
> RIM
> 1. bbm, push mail, vpn?? talk about internet, talk about public
> network.. not private network
> 2. ~80k - 100k
> 3. User.. can't bbm via free wifi, right? if doesn't subscribe to rim
> service (whatt???)
> 
> Google/Apple
> 1. Maps, Push mail, Chat service (with VOICE & VIDEO.. ohh yeahh), 3rd
> AWESOME apps & developer, tethering
>   ohh satu lagi.. awesome devices, ecosystem and community
> 2. ~35k - 100k (carrier)
> 3. free to User.. as long as Connected to internet, you can do almost
> anything free on wifi.. yeahh anything with free
> 
> Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
>   Service: BB partners
>   Share: x% for rim, y% for local operator
> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
>   Service: Wifi and/or Any operator that can provide internet
>   Share: 100% local operator..
> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
>   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
>   Share: 100% local operator..
> 
> So my question:
> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
> 100kBps download speed, maybe?
> 
> Conclusion:
> is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
> you for your money each months??
> 
> Well, itu jawaban gw.
> 
> Salam
> 
> 
> On Sep 16, 9:08 am, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong.
>> RIM kan ada jaringan sendiri buat layanan pushmail sama BBM. Apa ga boleh 
>> charge ke pengguna ?
>> Lantas maintenancenya bayar pake daun ?
>> Lagian service bulanan yg paling mahal 100rb buat pushmail, bbm dan browsing 
>> via apn blackberry sepuasnya mah menurut saya reasonable
>> Toh langganan paket unlimited GSM buat ngempanin robot ijo juga sekitar 
>> segitu tarifnya
>> Trus greedy dimananya coba ?
>> 
>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "A.W. Wicak" 
>> 
>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:21:53
>> To: 
>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
>> Android
>> 
>> Greedy?
>> 
>> Mungkin ga ngerasain benefit dr RIM yah waktu jaringan internet kita
>> putus tapi cuman blackberry doang yg masih bisa konek (cmiiw)
>> 
>> Yang namanya layanan pasti ada harganya, klo skrg bbm disini
>> tersendat2, salahin operatornya yg masih hobi perang tarif ;)
>> 
>> On 9/15/11, ayell  wrote:
>>> Nope.. open source bukan berarti siapa aja bebas pake semaunya..
>>> Ada license dan term agreement nya jg.
>> 
>>> BBM??
>>>

Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-15 Terurut Topik Andi - leo5354
Here's my opinion

So my question:
With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
100kBps download speed, maybe?

I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is 
more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & 
iOS).
As for browsing & DL speed, I seldom need 100kBps on mobile (my work is 75% on 
the road and we all know how good the network quality here). If I want to 
browse or get big files I will do that at the comfort of my office or home 
connection

Conclusion:
is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
you for your money each months??

They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on mobile u pay 
the provider for mobile internet. Then what's the different with BIS ???

To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life

-Original Message-
From: ayell 
Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:25:21 
To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community
Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

well well

Gw bukan asal ngomong
Berikut jawaban gw.

Gw setuju ada service ada cost.
refer ke dua paramater diatas, maka pertanyaan nya adlah :
1. service2 apa saja yg diberikan?
2. berapa cost total/per-tiap service tersebut?
3. kepada siapa harga tersebut ditagihkan?

ok let me answer:
RIM
1. bbm, push mail, vpn?? talk about internet, talk about public
network.. not private network
2. ~80k - 100k
3. User.. can't bbm via free wifi, right? if doesn't subscribe to rim
service (whatt???)

Google/Apple
1. Maps, Push mail, Chat service (with VOICE & VIDEO.. ohh yeahh), 3rd
AWESOME apps & developer, tethering
   ohh satu lagi.. awesome devices, ecosystem and community
2. ~35k - 100k (carrier)
3. free to User.. as long as Connected to internet, you can do almost
anything free on wifi.. yeahh anything with free

Current choices:
1. RIM, Product: BB
   Service: BB partners
   Share: x% for rim, y% for local operator
2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
   Service: Wifi and/or Any operator that can provide internet
   Share: 100% local operator..
3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
   Share: 100% local operator..

So my question:
With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
100kBps download speed, maybe?

Conclusion:
is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
you for your money each months??

Well, itu jawaban gw.

Salam


On Sep 16, 9:08 am, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong.
> RIM kan ada jaringan sendiri buat layanan pushmail sama BBM. Apa ga boleh 
> charge ke pengguna ?
> Lantas maintenancenya bayar pake daun ?
> Lagian service bulanan yg paling mahal 100rb buat pushmail, bbm dan browsing 
> via apn blackberry sepuasnya mah menurut saya reasonable
> Toh langganan paket unlimited GSM buat ngempanin robot ijo juga sekitar 
> segitu tarifnya
> Trus greedy dimananya coba ?
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "A.W. Wicak" 
>
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:21:53
> To: 
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
>
> Greedy?
>
> Mungkin ga ngerasain benefit dr RIM yah waktu jaringan internet kita
> putus tapi cuman blackberry doang yg masih bisa konek (cmiiw)
>
> Yang namanya layanan pasti ada harganya, klo skrg bbm disini
> tersendat2, salahin operatornya yg masih hobi perang tarif ;)
>
> On 9/15/11, ayell  wrote:
> > Nope.. open source bukan berarti siapa aja bebas pake semaunya..
> > Ada license dan term agreement nya jg.
>
> > BBM??
> > Nothing special about that.
>
> > Klo pun ada bbm di port ke android, jihhh ga bakal gw  mau kasih duit
> > sepeser pun duit gw ke RIM yg greedy itu cuman buat texting.
>
> > On Sep 15, 2:16 pm, Rizki Pratama  wrote:
> >> Mau jalanin google app kan nggak musti bilang google. Siapa juga boleh.
> >> Google kan open source. The Lagian dalvik virtual machine juga bukan punya
> >> google. Thanks cmiiw.
>
> >> Thanks
> >> Rizki
> >> Galaxy Tab 10.1
> >> On Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM, "Cahyo Dwi [milis]" 
> >> wrote:
>
> > --
> > "Indonesian Android Community"  Join:http://forum.android.or.id
>
> > ===
> 

[id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-15 Terurut Topik ayell
Greatt bang.

Thats what internet bussiness talk about.
Open, free service, cross plarform, rich contents and reaching people.


On Sep 16, 10:52 am, Agus Hamonangan  wrote:
> IMHO lho,
>
> Goog: Gue kaya raya karena iklan, sekarang juga fokus di iklan mobile,
> gw maunya platform android  menguasai dunia. BBM  sepertinya blom
> butuh :-)
>
> Ada komentar?
>
> AH
>
> 2011/9/15 Iwan Suryolaksono :
>
>
>
> > Mestinya Google minta barter dengan BBMnya RIM ya. Jangan cuma ngasih
> > platform doang. Nggak fair dong jadinya. Sepertinya Google cuma ingin
> > mengejar target OSnya bisa dijadikan standar internasional, tanpa
> > memperhitungkan bahwa aplikasi tertentu masih sangat native di OS lain dan
> > tidak bisa disaingi oleh android.
>
> > Salam,
> > Iwan Suryolaksono

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Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-15 Terurut Topik Fajar Edisya Putera
Hmm:-) setuju bang

sent from my optimus2x with rotijahe swiftextreme
On Sep 16, 2011 10:25 AM, "ayell"  wrote:
> well well
>
> Gw bukan asal ngomong
> Berikut jawaban gw.
>
> Gw setuju ada service ada cost.
> refer ke dua paramater diatas, maka pertanyaan nya adlah :
> 1. service2 apa saja yg diberikan?
> 2. berapa cost total/per-tiap service tersebut?
> 3. kepada siapa harga tersebut ditagihkan?
>
> ok let me answer:
> RIM
> 1. bbm, push mail, vpn?? talk about internet, talk about public
> network.. not private network
> 2. ~80k - 100k
> 3. User.. can't bbm via free wifi, right? if doesn't subscribe to rim
> service (whatt???)
>
> Google/Apple
> 1. Maps, Push mail, Chat service (with VOICE & VIDEO.. ohh yeahh), 3rd
> AWESOME apps & developer, tethering
> ohh satu lagi.. awesome devices, ecosystem and community
> 2. ~35k - 100k (carrier)
> 3. free to User.. as long as Connected to internet, you can do almost
> anything free on wifi.. yeahh anything with free
>
> Current choices:
> 1. RIM, Product: BB
> Service: BB partners
> Share: x% for rim, y% for local operator
> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
> Service: Wifi and/or Any operator that can provide internet
> Share: 100% local operator..
> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
> Service: Any operator that can provide internet
> Share: 100% local operator..
>
> So my question:
> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
> 100kBps download speed, maybe?
>
> Conclusion:
> is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
> you for your money each months??
>
> Well, itu jawaban gw.
>
> Salam
>
>
> On Sep 16, 9:08 am, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
>> Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong.
>> RIM kan ada jaringan sendiri buat layanan pushmail sama BBM. Apa ga boleh
charge ke pengguna ?
>> Lantas maintenancenya bayar pake daun ?
>> Lagian service bulanan yg paling mahal 100rb buat pushmail, bbm dan
browsing via apn blackberry sepuasnya mah menurut saya reasonable
>> Toh langganan paket unlimited GSM buat ngempanin robot ijo juga sekitar
segitu tarifnya
>> Trus greedy dimananya coba ?
>>
>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "A.W. Wicak" 
>>
>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:21:53
>> To: 
>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi
Android
>>
>> Greedy?
>>
>> Mungkin ga ngerasain benefit dr RIM yah waktu jaringan internet kita
>> putus tapi cuman blackberry doang yg masih bisa konek (cmiiw)
>>
>> Yang namanya layanan pasti ada harganya, klo skrg bbm disini
>> tersendat2, salahin operatornya yg masih hobi perang tarif ;)
>>
>> On 9/15/11, ayell  wrote:
>> > Nope.. open source bukan berarti siapa aja bebas pake semaunya..
>> > Ada license dan term agreement nya jg.
>>
>> > BBM??
>> > Nothing special about that.
>>
>> > Klo pun ada bbm di port ke android, jihhh ga bakal gw  mau kasih duit
>> > sepeser pun duit gw ke RIM yg greedy itu cuman buat texting.
>>
>> > On Sep 15, 2:16 pm, Rizki Pratama  wrote:
>> >> Mau jalanin google app kan nggak musti bilang google. Siapa juga
boleh.
>> >> Google kan open source. The Lagian dalvik virtual machine juga bukan
punya
>> >> google. Thanks cmiiw.
>>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Rizki
>> >> Galaxy Tab 10.1
>> >> On Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM, "Cahyo Dwi [milis]" <
dcputranto.mi...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> > --
>> > "Indonesian Android Community"  Join:http://forum.android.or.id
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[id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-15 Terurut Topik ayell
well well

Gw bukan asal ngomong
Berikut jawaban gw.

Gw setuju ada service ada cost.
refer ke dua paramater diatas, maka pertanyaan nya adlah :
1. service2 apa saja yg diberikan?
2. berapa cost total/per-tiap service tersebut?
3. kepada siapa harga tersebut ditagihkan?

ok let me answer:
RIM
1. bbm, push mail, vpn?? talk about internet, talk about public
network.. not private network
2. ~80k - 100k
3. User.. can't bbm via free wifi, right? if doesn't subscribe to rim
service (whatt???)

Google/Apple
1. Maps, Push mail, Chat service (with VOICE & VIDEO.. ohh yeahh), 3rd
AWESOME apps & developer, tethering
   ohh satu lagi.. awesome devices, ecosystem and community
2. ~35k - 100k (carrier)
3. free to User.. as long as Connected to internet, you can do almost
anything free on wifi.. yeahh anything with free

Current choices:
1. RIM, Product: BB
   Service: BB partners
   Share: x% for rim, y% for local operator
2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer
   Service: Wifi and/or Any operator that can provide internet
   Share: 100% local operator..
3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer.
   Service: Any operator that can provide internet
   Share: 100% local operator..

So my question:
With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month..
is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and
100kBps download speed, maybe?

Conclusion:
is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask
you for your money each months??

Well, itu jawaban gw.

Salam


On Sep 16, 9:08 am, "Andi - leo5354"  wrote:
> Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong.
> RIM kan ada jaringan sendiri buat layanan pushmail sama BBM. Apa ga boleh 
> charge ke pengguna ?
> Lantas maintenancenya bayar pake daun ?
> Lagian service bulanan yg paling mahal 100rb buat pushmail, bbm dan browsing 
> via apn blackberry sepuasnya mah menurut saya reasonable
> Toh langganan paket unlimited GSM buat ngempanin robot ijo juga sekitar 
> segitu tarifnya
> Trus greedy dimananya coba ?
>
> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "A.W. Wicak" 
>
> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:21:53
> To: 
> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi 
> Android
>
> Greedy?
>
> Mungkin ga ngerasain benefit dr RIM yah waktu jaringan internet kita
> putus tapi cuman blackberry doang yg masih bisa konek (cmiiw)
>
> Yang namanya layanan pasti ada harganya, klo skrg bbm disini
> tersendat2, salahin operatornya yg masih hobi perang tarif ;)
>
> On 9/15/11, ayell  wrote:
> > Nope.. open source bukan berarti siapa aja bebas pake semaunya..
> > Ada license dan term agreement nya jg.
>
> > BBM??
> > Nothing special about that.
>
> > Klo pun ada bbm di port ke android, jihhh ga bakal gw  mau kasih duit
> > sepeser pun duit gw ke RIM yg greedy itu cuman buat texting.
>
> > On Sep 15, 2:16 pm, Rizki Pratama  wrote:
> >> Mau jalanin google app kan nggak musti bilang google. Siapa juga boleh.
> >> Google kan open source. The Lagian dalvik virtual machine juga bukan punya
> >> google. Thanks cmiiw.
>
> >> Thanks
> >> Rizki
> >> Galaxy Tab 10.1
> >> On Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM, "Cahyo Dwi [milis]" 
> >> wrote:
>
> > --
> > "Indonesian Android Community"  Join:http://forum.android.or.id
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Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-15 Terurut Topik Willy Mularto
Kalo diliat dari sisi kebutuhan maka BBM ini akan menjadi spesial :)
Dan kalo ada versi androidnya kemungkinan besar ya tetep via infrastruktur RIM, 
ga mau bayar ya ga usah pake BBM. Toh aplikasi seperti WhatsApp juga udah mulai 
menggurita :)



On Sep 16, 2011, at 8:46 AM, citra setyanto wrote:

> BBM spesial, karena jumlah user yang pakai itu di indonesia amat sangat 
> banyak.
> 
> On Sep 15, 2011 8:09 PM, "ayell"  wrote:
> > Nope.. open source bukan berarti siapa aja bebas pake semaunya..
> > Ada license dan term agreement nya jg.
> > 
> > BBM??
> > Nothing special about that.
> > 
> > Klo pun ada bbm di port ke android, jihhh ga bakal gw mau kasih duit
> > sepeser pun duit gw ke RIM yg greedy itu cuman buat texting.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sep 15, 2:16 pm, Rizki Pratama  wrote:
> >> Mau jalanin google app kan nggak musti bilang google. Siapa juga boleh.
> >> Google kan open source. The Lagian dalvik virtual machine juga bukan punya
> >> google. Thanks cmiiw.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Rizki
> >> Galaxy Tab 10.1
> >> On Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM, "Cahyo Dwi [milis]" 
> >> wrote:
> > 
> > -- 
> > "Indonesian Android Community" Join: http://forum.android.or.id
> > 
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> > 
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Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-15 Terurut Topik citra setyanto
BBM spesial, karena jumlah user yang pakai itu di indonesia amat sangat
banyak.
On Sep 15, 2011 8:09 PM, "ayell"  wrote:
> Nope.. open source bukan berarti siapa aja bebas pake semaunya..
> Ada license dan term agreement nya jg.
>
> BBM??
> Nothing special about that.
>
> Klo pun ada bbm di port ke android, jihhh ga bakal gw mau kasih duit
> sepeser pun duit gw ke RIM yg greedy itu cuman buat texting.
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2:16 pm, Rizki Pratama  wrote:
>> Mau jalanin google app kan nggak musti bilang google. Siapa juga boleh.
>> Google kan open source. The Lagian dalvik virtual machine juga bukan
punya
>> google. Thanks cmiiw.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rizki
>> Galaxy Tab 10.1
>> On Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM, "Cahyo Dwi [milis]" 
>> wrote:
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[id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-15 Terurut Topik ayell
Nope.. open source bukan berarti siapa aja bebas pake semaunya..
Ada license dan term agreement nya jg.

BBM??
Nothing special about that.

Klo pun ada bbm di port ke android, jihhh ga bakal gw  mau kasih duit
sepeser pun duit gw ke RIM yg greedy itu cuman buat texting.


On Sep 15, 2:16 pm, Rizki Pratama  wrote:
> Mau jalanin google app kan nggak musti bilang google. Siapa juga boleh.
> Google kan open source. The Lagian dalvik virtual machine juga bukan punya
> google. Thanks cmiiw.
>
> Thanks
> Rizki
> Galaxy Tab 10.1
> On Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM, "Cahyo Dwi [milis]" 
> wrote:

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Re: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-14 Terurut Topik rudi nurcahyo
gag mungkin om...kalo bbm bisa di android bakalan super lemot...kirim
message sekarang nyampenya besok lusa hehehe.*bbm bb skr gag kaya
dulu...lemot
On Sep 15, 2011 7:01 AM, "ikas"  wrote:
> mngkin gak ad aplikasi BBM d android
>
> On Sep 8, 2:56 pm, Agus Hamonangan  wrote:
>> http://goo.gl/DGwKU
>> *
>> *
>> *TORONTO* - Ada banyak kejutan baru yang akan dihadirkan Research in
Motion
>> (RIM) melalui berbagai ponsel terbaru BlackBerry yang akan segera hadir.
>> Kejutan tersebut lebih dari sekedar sistem operasi baru.
>>
>>
>> Kejutan yang dihadirkan RIM ialah membuat akses pada sekira 250 ribu
>> aplikasi Android yang bisa dijalankan pada perangkat ponsel terbaru dari
>> BlackBerry. Hal ini terjadi berkat kerja sama inovatif yang dijalin
antara
>> RIM dengan Google.
>>
>>
>> Ide awal untuk mendatangkan Android pada BlackBerry dipelopori oleh
>> perangkat tablet unggulan RIM saat ini, yaitu BlackBerry Playbook.
Awalnya
>> Android digunakan untuk mendukung 'App Player' yang memberikan pengguna
>> akses untuk menghadirkan berbagai aplikasi melalui Android Market.
>>
>>
>> Seperti dikutip *TG Daily*, Jumat (26/8/2011), versi terbaru dari sistem
>> operasi BlackBerry mobile disebut QNX dan ini juga merupakan modifikasi
>> total dari intrface BlackBerry yang bertahan hingga satu dekade terakhir.
>>
>>
>> QNX merupakan sistem operasi yang mendapatkan banyak pujian, bahkan
dengan
>> kemampuan multitasking yang kuat dan desain intuitif, membuat RIM siap
>> bersaing dengan iPhone dan berbagai ponsel Android di pasar
internasional.
>>
>>
>> Namun beberapa pengamat menyayangkan mengapa sistem operasi ini baru
>> dimunculkan saat ini, meskipun QNX adalah OS yang menyegarkan dan bagus
bagi
>> RIM, tapi RIM masih dinilai gagal bersaing dengan para pesaingnya.
>>
>>
>> Penggunaan perdana sistem operasi QNX di BlackBerry, diharapkan akan
meraih
>> sukses pada tahun 2012 dan mungkin ini kesempatan terakhir RIM untuk
tetap
>> bertahan dalam menghadapi persaingan smartphone saat ini.
>>
>>
>> Kemampuan untuk menjalankan aplikasi Android pada perangkat BlackBerry,
>> merupakan sebuah langkah besar dalam meningkatkan penjualan Blackberry di
>> tahun depan dan mencapai tujuan yang disebutkan di atas. *(tyo)*
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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[id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi Android

2011-09-14 Terurut Topik ikas
mngkin gak ad aplikasi BBM d android

On Sep 8, 2:56 pm, Agus Hamonangan  wrote:
> http://goo.gl/DGwKU
> *
> *
> *TORONTO* - Ada banyak kejutan baru yang akan dihadirkan Research in Motion
> (RIM) melalui berbagai ponsel terbaru BlackBerry yang akan segera hadir.
> Kejutan tersebut lebih dari sekedar sistem operasi baru.
>
>
> Kejutan yang dihadirkan RIM ialah membuat akses pada sekira 250 ribu
> aplikasi Android yang bisa dijalankan pada perangkat ponsel terbaru dari
> BlackBerry. Hal ini terjadi berkat kerja sama inovatif yang dijalin antara
> RIM dengan Google.
>
>
> Ide awal untuk mendatangkan Android pada BlackBerry dipelopori oleh
> perangkat tablet unggulan RIM saat ini, yaitu BlackBerry Playbook. Awalnya
> Android digunakan untuk mendukung 'App Player' yang memberikan pengguna
> akses untuk menghadirkan berbagai aplikasi melalui Android Market.
>
>
> Seperti dikutip *TG Daily*, Jumat (26/8/2011), versi terbaru dari sistem
> operasi BlackBerry mobile disebut QNX dan ini juga merupakan modifikasi
> total dari intrface BlackBerry yang bertahan hingga satu dekade terakhir.
>
>
> QNX merupakan sistem operasi yang mendapatkan banyak pujian, bahkan dengan
> kemampuan multitasking yang kuat dan desain intuitif, membuat RIM siap
> bersaing dengan iPhone dan berbagai ponsel Android di pasar internasional.
>
>
> Namun beberapa pengamat menyayangkan mengapa sistem operasi ini baru
> dimunculkan saat ini, meskipun QNX adalah OS yang menyegarkan dan bagus bagi
> RIM, tapi RIM masih dinilai gagal bersaing dengan para pesaingnya.
>
>
> Penggunaan perdana sistem operasi QNX di BlackBerry, diharapkan akan meraih
> sukses pada tahun 2012 dan mungkin ini kesempatan terakhir RIM untuk tetap
> bertahan dalam menghadapi persaingan smartphone saat ini.
>
>
> Kemampuan untuk menjalankan aplikasi Android pada perangkat BlackBerry,
> merupakan sebuah langkah besar dalam meningkatkan penjualan Blackberry di
> tahun depan dan mencapai tujuan yang disebutkan di atas. *(tyo)*
>
>
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>
>
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>
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