Re: [Ilugc] FOSS competency certification

2009-03-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 06 March 2009 11:26:32 Arun Khan wrote:
 Also, the rest of the material is too high level

what exactly is too high level?
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum Repos

2009-03-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Ashish Verma wrote:

Hi,

Please suggest some yum repos. rpms like below will be very helpful.

http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release.rpm for livna repo.
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpmfor
rpm-fusion



Generally, mixing repositories would lead to conflicts. Other than livna 
 + rpmfusion - free/non-free repositories, many of them are not 
compatible with Fedora completely or replace packages leading to many 
problems. You can refer to


http://rpmfusion.org/FedoraThirdPartyRepos

Rahul
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Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem

2009-03-06 Thread padma priya
Thanks for all the inputs. I uninstalled firefox and installed 3.0.7 stable
version. It works :)
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[Ilugc] Update Fedora 9 OS

2009-03-06 Thread Prasath Ramachandiran
Hi,

Am presently using Fedora Core 2 OS, i have to update into Fedora 9.

How to update the OS.

Thanks

R. Prasath
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Re: [Ilugc] Update Fedora 9 OS

2009-03-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Prasath Ramachandiran wrote:

Hi,

Am presently using Fedora Core 2 OS, i have to update into Fedora 9.

How to update the OS.



http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#I_have_an_older_Fedora_release.__Can_I_upgrade_my_existing_installation.3F

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Re: [Ilugc] Update Fedora 9 OS

2009-03-06 Thread Shrinivasan T
Hi,


    Am presently using Fedora Core 2 OS, i have to update into Fedora 9.

    How to update the OS.

Is the upgrade is essential?
Why not a fresh install of new version?

Fedora 2 is very old to use.

If there is no important data, or very little data, back up them.

Do a fresh install of Fedora 9.

This will make your life easier.

Fedora 10 already come.

Go for a latest one always.


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Re: [Ilugc] Update Fedora 9 OS

2009-03-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 06 March 2009 16:49:09 Shrinivasan T wrote:
 Fedora 10 already come.

 Go for a latest one always.

actually it is always advisable to go for the second latest - not only in 
software, but for everything you acquire.
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Re: [Ilugc] Update Fedora 9 OS

2009-03-06 Thread Raman.P


--- On Fri, 6/3/09, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is the upgrade is essential?
 Why not a fresh install of new version?
 
 Fedora 2 is very old to use.
 
 If there is no important data, or very little data, back up
 them.
 
 Do a fresh install of Fedora 9.
 
 This will make your life easier.
 
 Fedora 10 already come.
 
 Go for a latest one always.
Not always, think about hardware specs and then upgrade.

Newer versions generally assume more ram and cpu power.

Raman.P


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RE: [Ilugc] Update Fedora 9 OS

2009-03-06 Thread Mahesh Thiagarajan

From: ilugc-boun...@ae.iitm.ac.in [ilugc-boun...@ae.iitm.ac.in] On Behalf Of 
Kenneth Gonsalves [law...@thenilgiris.com]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:50 PM


actually it is always advisable to go for the second latest - not only in
software, but for everything you acquire.

I second it, atleast for fedora.
In the desire for cutting edge, some crucial subSytems could come out  with 
bugs unsurmountable at the start.
But also, fedora releases get obsoleted qucik too. Give a good read of fc10 
known issues before taking a call!
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Re: [Ilugc] Update Fedora 9 OS

2009-03-06 Thread Ravi Jaya

 I second it, atleast for fedora.
 In the desire for cutting edge, some crucial subSytems could come out  with
 bugs unsurmountable at the start.
 But also, fedora releases get obsoleted qucik too. Give a good read of fc10
 known issues before taking a call!


my question to prasath is, why Fedora not Debian? since you used Fedora for
long run it time to taste something different. Try  Debian Etch/Lenny.


RJ
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Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-06 Thread Nallu Ignacius
Hi,

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Zico mailz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Parthan SR parth.technofr...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  And also please don't write a mail with 1945 words. Nobody is going to
 read
  it through ;-)


 haha :D

 Come on!!! ;)



@ALL


Understood. There is no way out.



regards,
Ignacius
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Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-06 Thread Krishna
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Guruprasad lgp171...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Parthan SR parth.technofr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  And also please don't write a mail with 1945 words. Nobody is going to
 read
  it through ;-)
 

 When someone can count the number of words, he/she _can_ read it. ;-)


Not necessarily. with Eric S Raymonds explanation of Zen enlightenment
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/shell-tools.html
a simple   wc -w foo.txt is enough :).

Bye,
Krishna.
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Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-06 Thread Guruprasad
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Krishna mail2kr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not necessarily. with Eric S Raymonds explanation of Zen enlightenment
 http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/shell-tools.html
 a simple   wc -w foo.txt is enough :).

When someone shows interest to count the number of words (whatever the
method), he _can_ read it and he _should_ read it before making
comments. :-). That post was kind of suggesting people not to read it
because it was so much words long and was trying to dilute the issue
being mentioned. :-).

P.S. These are only my personal opinions and not intended to offend anyone. :-)

Regards,
Guruprasad.
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Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-06 Thread Guruprasad
 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Krishna mail2kr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not necessarily. with Eric S Raymonds explanation of Zen enlightenment
 http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/shell-tools.html
 a simple   wc -w foo.txt is enough :).

 When someone shows interest to count the number of words (whatever the
 method), he _can_ read it and he _should_ read it before making
 comments. :-). That post was kind of suggesting people not to read it
 because it was so much words long and was trying to dilute the issue
 being mentioned. :-).


BTW, the post was telling *how to communicate in lists*! lol :-D.

Regards,
Guruprasad.
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Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-06 Thread Nallu Ignacius
hi,
வணக்கம்,

In brief, if you don't have anything to say, don't say it, if you
 don't like what is written just ignore/delete it.

 Instead of spending so much energy on deciding which *language* we
 can communicate in, we should spend some time on communicating!


 And also please don't write a mail with 1945 words. Nobody is going to read
 it through ;-)


தூங்குபவர்களை எழுப்பி விட முடியும் தூங்குவது போல நடிப்பவர்களை ...
**We can wake up a person who is really sleeping but not the one who
pretends to be sleeping

regards,
வாழ்த்துக்கள்,

Ignacius
இக்னேசியச்
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[Ilugc] about swap area

2009-03-06 Thread nandha kumar
hai to all.
 I m nandha doing second year in saveetha engg college..
I hav a system with intel 845GV - p4 - 640 mb RAM - 40+20 gb hdd
i m using dual os - windows xp and ubuntu 8.04 . after switching to ubuntu i
m not at all using windows..

now i have a doubt about swap area.

my doubts are

1. how to utilize the swap memory completely( i hv created a swap of 1280 mb
and ubuntu is in 40 gb hdd) bcoz most of the time my swap is idle.

2. can swap can be used as a virtual graphics card to improve my graphics
 if possible please tell me how to do it??


thanking you
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Re: [Ilugc] about swap area

2009-03-06 Thread Ravi Jaya
  I m nandha doing second year in saveetha engg college..
 I hav a system with intel 845GV - p4 - 640 mb RAM - 40+20 gb hdd
 i m using dual os - windows xp and ubuntu 8.04 . after switching to ubuntu
 i
 m not at all using windows..

 now i have a doubt about swap area.

 my doubts are

 1. how to utilize the swap memory completely( i hv created a swap of 1280
 mb
 and ubuntu is in 40 gb hdd) bcoz most of the time my swap is idle.

 My friend,

Swap memory is your virtual memory. When your linux box run out of primary
memory (RAM) then it started using swap partition (area ).

If you system is not using the swap area, it really good, since it show you
have enough RAM on board.

Utilizing the swap partition for your graphics memory is not an ideal
option. Swap partition grows on your secondary memory (HDD), is
comparatively very very slow to the RAM.

Its no way possible to used swap as per you mentioned in post.

cheers

RJ

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Re: [Ilugc] about swap area

2009-03-06 Thread Roshan George
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 19:38 +0530, nandha kumar wrote:
 hai to all.
  I m nandha doing second year in saveetha engg college..
 I hav a system with intel 845GV - p4 - 640 mb RAM - 40+20 gb hdd
 i m using dual os - windows xp and ubuntu 8.04 . after switching to ubuntu i
 m not at all using windows..
 
 now i have a doubt about swap area.
 
 my doubts are
 
 1. how to utilize the swap memory completely( i hv created a swap of 1280 mb
 and ubuntu is in 40 gb hdd) bcoz most of the time my swap is idle.
 
 2. can swap can be used as a virtual graphics card to improve my graphics
  if possible please tell me how to do it??
 

Swap space is just space on your hard-drive set up to compensate for
when you run out of RAM. Accessing that is as slow as accessing your
hard drive, so less swap used is better.

I do not think any graphics card currently available can use hard-drive
space to augment VRAM, and besides that isn't a very good idea at all.
On the Intel 845 board, you should be able to increase the amount of
main RAM that is allocated to your on-board graphics in the BIOS.

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Re: [Ilugc] ??? ??? ?? ???? - ???????????????? ??? =?UTF-8?B?4K6f4K6x4K+I

2009-03-06 Thread ம . ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Senthil Kumaran S style...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bharathi Subramanian wrote:
   And Writing in Tamil in this list is NOT GOING TO HELP ANYWAY in to
 improve our language.

 If Tamil is forced, then it will die soon - Rough translation of
 MahaKavi Bharathiyar's statement.

 A strong +1.

Out of curiosity more than anything please quote that Bharathi's line
as such in Tamil..

Just wanna know, where and when he uttered those words? Being his
admirer myself, I wish it doesn't got on record even in one person's
mind that even Bharathi has uttered such word..

If this is the phrase, then read it completely and understand what
Bharathi expects every Tamilan to do,

 புத்தம் புதிய கலைகள், பஞ்சப்

பூதச் செயல்களின் நுட்பங்கள் கூறும்;

மெத்த வளருது மேற்கே, அந்த

மேன்மைக் கலைகள் தமிழினில் இல்லை! ...

சொல்லவும் கூடுவ தில்லை! அவை

சொல்லும் திறமை தமிழ்மொழிக் கில்லை! 

என்றந்தப் பேதை உரைத்தான், ஆ!

இந்த வசையெனக் கெய்திட லாமோ ?

சென்றிடுவீர் எட்டுத் திக்கும், கலைச்

செல்வங்கள் யாவும் கொண்ர்ந் திங்கு சேர்ப்பீர்!

மகாகவி பாரதியார்


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Re: [Ilugc] about swap area

2009-03-06 Thread Senthil Anand

On 3/6/2009 7:38 PM, nandha kumar wrote:


1. how to utilize the swap memory completely( i hv created a swap of 1280 mb
and ubuntu is in 40 gb hdd) bcoz most of the time my swap is idle.


Use programs which use more than 640MB of memory. Idle swap is good 
since it means you have enough memory for your workloads.



2. can swap can be used as a virtual graphics card to improve my graphics
 if possible please tell me how to do it??


Don't think that is possible under X Window System.

Regards,
Senthil
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[Ilugc] Looking for live cd/distro supporting eafs/htfs filesystem

2009-03-06 Thread LinuXpert Academy
Hi all,

I need to recover data from a SCO Open Server 5.0 harddisk which uses EAFS/HTFS 
(not NTFS) filesystem.  I didn't find any linux distro which supports this kind 
of filesystem to mount from linux. 

Any pointers would be helpful.

S. Baskar
LinuXpert Systems


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Re: [Ilugc] Looking for live cd/distro supporting eafs/htfs filesystem

2009-03-06 Thread Shrinivasan T
Hi,


 I need to recover data from a SCO Open Server 5.0 harddisk which uses 
 EAFS/HTFS (not NTFS) filesystem.  I didn't find any linux distro which 
 supports this kind of filesystem to mount from linux.


See the following link.

http://www.aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_linuxfs.html



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[Ilugc] Acer Aspire One sound update

2009-03-06 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Raja Subramanian wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape ka...@imsc.res.in 
 wrote:
  As you will note from my comment on the Debian Wiki page, I could not
  get the internal mic to work. Please let me know if some more recent
  version of alsa makes this work for you.
 
 This is a deal breaker for me as I'm a heavy Skype user.  The built-in
 webcam is also something I'm using effectively now.

Using Debian lenny on the Acer Aspire One
I just tested:

 # get module assistant to get, build and install the alsa modules
 m-a a-i alsa
 # unload the older alsa modules from kernel
 rmmod $(lsmod | grep snd | cut -f1 -d' ')
 # load the newly built modules --- note model=acer!
 modprobe snd-hda-intel model=acer
 # record 10 seconds of CD quality audio
 arecord -f cd -v -d 10  /tmp/test.wav
 # play it
 aplay /tmp/test.wav

And it worked! So perhaps some recent changes to the alsa-source
package in lenny made it work or my tests earlier were buggy!

Regards,

Kapil.
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Re: [Ilugc] FOSS competency certification

2009-03-06 Thread Arun Khan
On Friday 06 Mar 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On Friday 06 March 2009 11:26:32 Arun Khan wrote:
  Also, the rest of the material is too high level

 what exactly is too high level?

Please see these for examples of the content that needs to be outlined 
in the proposed certification.
http://www.redhat.in/training/course/RH131
http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1/exam_101_detailed_objectives
http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1/exam_102_detailed_objectives

Also please include the USP of the proposed cert vis a vis this 
http://www.redhat.in/training/courses/applications/ and 
http://www.redhat.in/training/courses/web_dev/

-- 
Arun Khan

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Re: [Ilugc] Acer Aspire One sound update

2009-03-06 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape ka...@imsc.res.in wrote:
 Using Debian lenny on the Acer Aspire One
 I just tested:

...
 And it worked! So perhaps some recent changes to the alsa-source
 package in lenny made it work or my tests earlier were buggy!

If you plug-in headphones or a mic do they work as expected?

On WinXP atleast, whenever I plug in headphones, I need to ensure
the acer audio mixer app is running for the sound to be routed to the
headphones.  Not running this app causes the sound to be played
back through the built-in speakers even though I have the headphones
plugged in.


I have one more issue -- at the lowest screen brightness, the screen
flickers every time the HDD reads/writes data.  This happens all the
time, even when the laptop is on AC or battery power.  I'm not sure
if this is a hardware of software glitch, do you notice the same problem
using X.org servers?


Thanks for all your inputs!

- Raja
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[Ilugc] anatomy of ext4

2009-03-06 Thread Raja Subramanian
Hello,

IBM DW has featured a recent article on ext4 Linux file system, and
is good reading for any Linux file system enthusiast.

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-anatomy-ext4/index.html

The Resources section of the article has plenty of pointers to
further information.

- Raja
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Re: [Ilugc] Acer Aspire One sound update

2009-03-06 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Sat, 07 Mar 2009, Raja Subramanian wrote:
 If you plug-in headphones or a mic do they work as expected?

Yes. There is a mixer setting which toggles between internal mic and
external mic. (I use alsamixer).

 I have one more issue -- at the lowest screen brightness, the screen
 flickers every time the HDD reads/writes data.

I haven't noticed anything specific like this. I have not tried to
do anything disk intensive while having a video or GL graphic
running, so that needs to be tried.

Regards,

Kapil.
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