Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[Common Man]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:24 PM, LinuXpert Academy
 wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> After several months (possibly years) of efforts, LinuXpert Systems has
> developed a
> complete FOSS Lab server to meet the demand of Academic institutions to
> teach FOSS
> using all the latest FOSS software collections available on the internet
> including several new GNU/Linux distribuions,
> linux kernel source code, 300+ foss softwares for windows, 15000+ cpan
> archives, complete wikipedia,
> extensive documentation like TLDP, GNU docs and other software manuals
> (in Text, HTML, PS, PDF formats) with several pre-built features required
> for academic institutions while teaching FOSS.
>
> For Complete details about the foss lab server
>
> http://linuxbaskar.googlepages.com/fls.pdf
>
> Any comments would be appreciated and helpful for further improvement.
>
> S. Baskar
> CEO/LinuXpert Systems
>

Mr.Baskar

Where can I download the "Foss lab server". Is the source code available free?
please post the link.

Common Man
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[Common Man]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:01 PM, LinuXpert Academy
 wrote:
>>
>>What is the cost of the whole setup or you just deal in Softwares ?
>>
> The whole setup including hardware costs Rs.75k (including our commercial 
> thinclient software).
>
> The hardware box:
>
> Intel Atom processor+MB
> 2GB RAM
> 1TB HDD
> UMPC Cabinet
> 1 Onboard VGA, Ethernet, 6 USB Ports, 2 PS2 Ports

Mr.Baskar,

Just curious.

Today's h/w box cost at www.deltapage.com:
 Intel Atom processor+MB  - 3500 /-
+
2GB RAM - 1000 /-
+
1TB HDD   5000/-
+
 UMPC Cabinet  1500/-

= 11000 /-

So does your s/w cost 75k - 11k = 64k !

Is the source code of the lab server available free?

Common Man
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[LinuXpert Academy]

>
>Mr.Baskar,
>
>Just curious.
>
>Today's h/w box cost at www.deltapage.com:
> Intel Atom processor+MB  - 3500 /-
>+
>2GB RAM - 1000 /-
>+
>1TB HDD   5000/-
>+
> UMPC Cabinet  1500/-
>
>= 11000 /-
>
>So does your s/w cost 75k - 11k = 64k !
>

Your calculation is right.  But, downloaded 1TB of all latest distros, 
documentations, source code
from various websites/repositories, organized for easy access, configuration of 
mail server, mailing list, mediawiki,
wordpress, automatic single click remote installation of distros and several 
other features and backed
with 3 years of support adds that another 64K. (plus our commercial thinclient 
which is widely
used by many educational institutions (which helped them saving several lakhs 
of rupees spent for costly hardware upgrades and maintenance for years) itself 
worth that 64k)

If curious, you can see the demo in our office and really you would get excited.

S. Baskar
CEO/LinuXpert Systems


>Is the source code of the lab server available free?
>
All the source code is part of the lab server and available free only.


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Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Meet - Mar 28th 3PM

[Ashish Verma]

>
> >
> > Time : Sat Mar 28th 15:00 IST 2009
> > Venue: ADI-TeNeT Seminar Hall,
> >Room No: CSD 320,
> >Electrical Science Block,
> >IIT-Madras.
> >
> > Map: http://www.chennailug.org/tenet
> > NOTE: CSD Entrance renamed as Deshpande Foundation (or
> > something like
> > that)
> >
> > No Specific Talks :)
>
> I wish to share my experience so far with Multi-seat Linux using mdm
> display manager in this meet, though I may not be able to demonstrate.
>
> Raman.P
>
>

Hi,

Is there a meet today. If yes, has the location been changed or something.

Ashish
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[Ilugc] what is this "magic number" ?

[swamynathan]

i did dmesg and got this message (on my ubuntu 8.04)


*[   20.254649]   Magic number: 1:84:82
*
what does it mean ?



-- 
your caring/loving/sincere/oyoyoy[select it urself]
swamynathan.
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Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Meet - Mar 28th 3PM

[Ashish Verma]

>
> > Time : Sat Mar 28th 15:00 IST 2009
>> > Venue: ADI-TeNeT Seminar Hall,
>> >Room No: CSD 320,
>> >Electrical Science Block,
>> >IIT-Madras.
>> >
>> > Map: http://www.chennailug.org/tenet
>> > NOTE: CSD Entrance renamed as Deshpande Foundation (or
>> > something like
>> > that)
>> >
>> > No Specific Talks :)
>>
>> I wish to share my experience so far with Multi-seat Linux using mdm
>> display manager in this meet, though I may not be able to demonstrate.
>>
>> Raman.P
>>
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a meet today. If yes, has the location been changed or something.
>
> Ashish
>

The meet is happening  as scheduled.
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Re: [Ilugc] LUGC webconference

[Arun Khan]

On Saturday 28 Mar 2009, varadarajan narayanan wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Arun SAG  wrote:
> > >I am just wondering why should not be possible to have a  web
> > > based >ILUGC conference ?
> >
> > May be IRC channel for ILUGC to organize conferences and meetings
> > that will
>
> Hi !
>
> What I meant was live web conference with video /audio etc .
> a tall order ?

What software (server) will you use for A/V conference?  Who will host 
the conferencing server?  Does the host have the bandwidth to support 
simultaneous client connection @ 640x480 res. to say 10 "centres" where 
geeks can congregate?

-- 
Arun Khan


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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[Mohan Sundaram]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Common Man wrote:

> So does your s/w cost 75k - 11k = 64k !
>
> Is the source code of the lab server available free?
>
> This is the most common misconception corporates too carry about open
source. Services on open source is not free just because the code is
available freely.

I remember a story where an ex-employee is called to fix a machine that was
troubling folks for a long time in a factory. He came in, turned a few bolts
and it was all up and running smoothly. He sends a bill for $1000 and the
manager scoffs asking a question " $1000 to turn a few bolts?". The guy
replies "No. $10 for turning the bolts and $990 for knowing which ones to
turn and by how much."

It is always an issue when one has to price knowhow. It does take a
significant amount of time, resources, commitment and drive to get to a
position where one can do things easily. I used to run a similar business 12
years ago. I used to price my services at 50% of the licence cost of an
equivalent M$ solution. I had a fledging business then before I moved on.

Mohan
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[Mohan Sundaram]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Mohan Sundaram  wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Common Man 
> wrote:
>
>> So does your s/w cost 75k - 11k = 64k !
>>
>> Is the source code of the lab server available free?
>>
>> This is the most common misconception corporates too carry about open
> source. Services on open source is not free just because the code is
> available freely.
>
Sorry... Services are not free.

> I remember a story where an ex-employee is called to fix a machine that was
> troubling folks for a long time in a factory. He came in, turned a few bolts
> and it was all up and running smoothly. He sends a bill for $1000 and the
> manager scoffs asking a question " $1000 to turn a few bolts?". The guy
> replies "No. $10 for turning the bolts and $990 for knowing which ones to
> turn and by how much."
>
> It is always an issue when one has to price knowhow. It does take a
> significant amount of time, resources, commitment and drive to get to a
> position where one can do things easily. I used to run a similar business 12
> years ago. I used to price my services at 50% of the licence cost of an
> equivalent M$ solution. I had a fledging business then before I moved on.
>
> Mohan
>
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Re: [Ilugc] LUGC webconference

[varadarajan narayanan]

>
>
> >
> > What I meant was live web conference with video /audio etc .
> > a tall order ?
>
> What software (server) will you use for A/V conference?  Who will host
> the conferencing server?  Does the host have the bandwidth to support
> simultaneous client connection @ 640x480 res. to say 10 "centres" where
> geeks can congregate?
>

Hi !

I was looking at Open meeting  . I
am not sure about the host .may be have to look at commercial hosting ?

Cheers

varadarajan
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[சிவகுமார் மா]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Common Man wrote:

>
> Mr.Baskar
>
> Where can I download the "Foss lab server". Is the source code available
> free?
> please post the link.
>
> Common Man
>

Common Man - Kilpauk Kandaswamy,

Allow me the liberty of answering your question. I am not sure whether Mr.
Baskar offers the source for free to everyone. If he does, that shows his
generosity.

To follow licence terms of open source software, he just needs to provide
source code to those *who bought his server. *Not to everyone.

I admire Baskar for the persistent efforts his company has been making to
bring Open Source options to educational institutions. As he had pointed
out, he has been doing it for over 5 years.

Efforts by Linux User Groups should be complimented by commercial offers
such as Linuxpert Academy for open source to thrive.

Disclaimer : I have met Baskar only once in a Linux Demo Day and just said
hello. I do not recall any other personal or professional communication with
him.

Best regards,

Ma Sivakumar

மா சிவகுமார்
எல்லோரும் எல்லாமும் பெற வேண்டும்
http://masivakumar.blogspot.com
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[varadarajan narayanan]

>
>
> >
> > Where can I download the "Foss lab server". Is the source code available
> > free?
> > please post the link.
> >
> > Common Man
>

Hi !

There is discussion going on about economics of open source in this forum.

Please go through the discussions and enlighten yourself !

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/51549/focus=51618


Cheers

varadarajan
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Re: [Ilugc] LUGC webconference

[Arun Khan]

On Saturday 28 Mar 2009, varadarajan narayanan wrote:
> > > What I meant was live web conference with video /audio etc
> > > . a tall order ?
> >
> > What software (server) will you use for A/V conference?  Who will
> > host the conferencing server?  Does the host have the bandwidth to
> > support simultaneous client connection @ 640x480 res. to say 10
> > "centres" where geeks can congregate?
>
> Hi !
>
> I was looking at Open meeting 
> . 

Thanks.  Looks very interesting.

> I am not sure about the 
> host .may be have to look at commercial hosting ?

Bandwidth is the main thing to be considered.  Putting this of the top 
of my head - for A/V each "client" you will need about 256Kbps 
upstream/downstream.  The server will have to support the stream for 
all the conference clients - the b/w requirement grows.

I am not sure if any commercial hosting will support such an 
application.

-- 
Arun Khan

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Re: [Ilugc] LUGC webconference

[varadarajan narayanan]

>
>
>
> I am not sure if any commercial hosting will support such an
> application.
>
> -


Hi !

Why not ? it is just  !

You can get dedicated hosting with root access and any amount of traffic !
It costs lot of money that is all !


Cheers

Varadarajan
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Re: [Ilugc] LUGC webconference

[varadarajan narayanan]

> > support simultaneous client connection @ 640x480 res. to say 10
> > > "centres" where geeks can congregate?
> > > Hi !
> >
> > I was looking at Open meeting
> > .
>
>
>
> I am not sure if any commercial hosting will support such an
> application.
>

Hi !

Also you can avail hosted solutions from DIMDIM . They have open source
version also .

http://www.dimdim.com/


Cheers

Varadarajan
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[LinuXpert Academy]

>Allow me the liberty of answering your question. I am not sure whether Mr.
>Baskar offers the source for free to everyone. If he does, that shows his
>generosity.

Anyone can get the source for free, possibly on Sundays @ my office (pl. bring 
external storage
devices for getting them and don't request on optical media)

>
>To follow licence terms of open source software, he just needs to provide
>source code to those *who bought his server. *Not to everyone.

For those who buy the server, they get everything as per the open source 
software licenses.
(softwares, source code, documentation).  I remember that RMS did this way when 
he started GNU project
by selling emacs on tapes for a few dollars. (RMS essays on Free Software, Free 
Society is included in the server)

>Efforts by Linux User Groups should be complimented by commercial offers
>such as Linuxpert Academy for open source to thrive.

Every successful FOSS business, whether it's small/big thrives this way only.

S. Baskar
CEO/LinuXpert Systems

Note: Pl. see my next mail about the contents of "FOSS Webstore Server"


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Re: [Ilugc] LUGC webconference

[Arun Khan]

On Saturday 28 Mar 2009, varadarajan narayanan wrote:
> > I am not sure if any commercial hosting will support such an
> > application.
> >
> > -
>
> Hi !
>
> Why not ? it is just  !

Who is footing the bill?  This thread started with the proposal to have 
virtual ILUGC meeting.

> You can get dedicated hosting with root access and any amount of
> traffic ! It costs lot of money that is all !

Please ask them if you can host a web conferencing package.  All 
the "unlimited" packages have a hidden cap, you find out only after 
heavy usage of their resources!

-- 
Arun Khan

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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[LinuXpert Academy]

Hi,

Due to the name confusion people had with NRC-FOSS developed "FOSS Lab Server" 
and ours, we named
our product as "FOSS Webstore Server" which was completely developed by us 
in-house.

Below is a short description of our "FOSS Webstore Server" configuration and 
contents

Hardware Configuration Details


Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz processor with Motherboard
2GB DDR RAM
1TB Sata HDD
On-Board Ethernet
On-Board VGA
On-Board USB Ports (Front-side: 2, Back-side: 4)
On-Board PS2 Port (Mouse, Keyboard)
UMPC Cabinet

http://linuxbaskar.googlepages.com/fls.jpg


LXS FOSS Webstore Server Content Details:
--

Linux Services configured in the Server:
---

* Network Services: OpenSSH, DHCP, DNS, TFTP, XDMCP, VNC Server
* Application Services: Samba
* Web Services: Apache
* E-mail Services: Postfix, Dovecot, Squirrelmail, GNU Mailman
* Database Services: Mysql, Postgresql
* Remote Access Services: Webmin
* Remote File Copying Services: Rsync
* Mediawiki and Wordpress has been configured additionally for knowledge 
management
* XDMCP Service Enabled for Remote Login through KDM and Easy GUI 
Administration 
  from Windows can be done using XMing-Server for Windows


Additional Configuration Settings:
--

* FOSS Elective-I and II syllabus access using wiki style with link to 
respective
  documentation
* Complete Wikipedia June '2008 dump (English and Tamil Edition - around 250 GB)
* Automatic Remote Installation of Community Distributions (Fedora, Debian)
  using PXEGRUB menu
* Completely Web based Access of "FOSS Webstore Server"
* Windows based FOSS Softwares can be accessed through Samba from Windows PCs
* Complete Fedora, Debian Package repository access made local using yum, 
apt-get
* LTSP 5.0 Integration in F-10 with KDM as the default Desktop Manager
* Integration of LXS make Commercial Thinclient Solution 

FOSS Webstore Server Software Repository Contents
---

* Kernel Source Code, Patches Repository (0.01 to 2.6.29)

* FOSS Softwares for Windows Platform (More than 300+ for 32-bit XP / 64-bit 
Vista)

* GNU/Linux Distributions (More than 15+)
  
  Fedora 7,8,9,10 + source code with complete repository (i386x, x86-64)
  Debian 4.0r6, 5.00 + source code with complete repository (i386)
  Mandriva 2009 (i386, x86-64)
  OpenSuSE 11.1 (i386, x86-64)
  Ubuntu 8.10 (i386, x86-64)
  K12Linux Based on Fedora-9, 10 (i386, x86-64)
  CentOS 5.2 (i386, x86-64)
  Slackware 12.2 (i386)
  FreeBSD 7.1 (i386)
  NetBSD 4.0.1 (i386, amd64)
  DreamLinux 3.5 (i386, x86-64)
  64Studio 2.1 (i386, amd64)
  artistX (i386)
  BossLinux 3.0 (i386)
  LinuxFromScratch 6.4 (i386)


* Small Linux/BSD Based Distributions (Firewall, Storage, Thinclient, Utility)
---

  IPCop Firewall(Firewall)
  SmoothWall Express(Firewall)
  m0n0wall  (Firewall)
  OpenFiler (Storage)
  FreeNAS   (Storage)
  Thinstation   (Thinclient)
  Cult Thinclient   (Thinclient)
  Trixbox   (Communication)
  Parted Magic Live (Utility)
  System Rescue CD  (Utility)
  CloneZilla Live CD(Utility)

* FOSS Tools (not part of distribution, but quite useful)
--

  VirtualBox (For all distributions)
  Webmin

* Documentation (Web based Access) (Text, Single page HTML, Multiple HTML, PS, 
PDF)
---

  TLDP (The Linux Documentation Project Website + Linux Gazette 154 Issues) - 
1.3 GB
  MySQL
  Python
  Perl
  PHP
  OpenJDK
  Apache HTTPD
  Postfix
  Debian Manuals
  GNOME Manuals (grabbed whole http://library.gnome.org)
  Exim
  GTK+
  Linux From Scratch
  Postgresql
  Ruby
  Sendmail
  Subversion
  TCL/Tk
  Linux man pages (HTML)

  GNU Manuals from www.gnu.org/manuals (Text, Single page HTML, Multiple HTML, 
PS, PDF)
  
-

   - Bison Manual Formats
   - Comparing and Merging Files
   - DDD (Data Display Debugger)
   - GCC Documentation
   - GDB Documentation
   - GNU Autoconf (Creating Automatic Configuration Scripts)
   - GNU Autogen
   - GNU Automake
   - GNU Bash Manual
   - GNU Coding Standards
   - GNU Coreutils Manual
   - GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual
   - GNU Emacs Manual
   - GNU GRUB Manual
   - GNU Libidn
   - GNU Libtool Manual
   - GNU Mailing List Manager
   - GNU Parted Manual
   - GNU Scientific Library - Reference
   - GNU Smalltalk User's Manual
   - GNUStep Developer Documentation
   - GNU tar Manual
   - Hello, GNU World
   - Portable Terminal Control From Scripts
   - Programming in Emacs Lisp

Re: [Ilugc] LUGC webconference

[varadarajan narayanan]

>
>
> > Why not ? it is just  !
>
> Who is footing the bill?  This thread started with the proposal to have
> virtual ILUGC meeting.


Yes I also mentioned that it can be an academic exercise !  But

>
>
> > You can get dedicated hosting with root access and any amount of
> > traffic ! It costs lot of money that is all !
>
> Please ask them if you can host a web conferencing package.  All
> the "unlimited" packages have a hidden cap, you find out only after
> heavy usage of their resources!
>

Yes  , I asked them and they just go by the bandwidth. It is pretty
expensive though !

But DIMDIM hosted version is okay. Something affordable say $99 per year
for 20 member size meetings.

Cheers

Varadarajan
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[Common Man]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM, LinuXpert Academy
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Due to the name confusion people had with NRC-FOSS developed "FOSS Lab 
> Server" and ours, we named
> our product as "FOSS Webstore Server" which was completely developed by us 
> in-house.
>
> Below is a short description of our "FOSS Webstore Server" configuration and 
> contents
>
> Hardware Configuration Details
> 
>
> Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz processor with Motherboard
> 2GB DDR RAM
> 1TB Sata HDD
> On-Board Ethernet
> On-Board VGA
> On-Board USB Ports (Front-side: 2, Back-side: 4)
> On-Board PS2 Port (Mouse, Keyboard)
> UMPC Cabinet
>
> http://linuxbaskar.googlepages.com/fls.jpg

Dear Mr.Baskar,

Just curious.You have not explicitly mentioned the License under which
your so called
 "FOSS Webstore Server" is distributed. You just mentioned the license
of the s/w's present in "FOSS Webstore Server", not about the
"Server"'s license.Could you please elaborate?

Common Man
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[Kapil Hari Paranjape]

Hello,

I appreciate the efforts of everyone who tries to set up a
software business given the way in which the entire expectation of
manufacturers, users and the public is skewed by the way in which this
has been done over the last 20 years or so. However, corrections are
required!

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, சிவகுமார் மா wrote:
> Allow me the liberty of answering your question. I am not sure whether Mr.
> Baskar offers the source for free to everyone. If he does, that shows his
> generosity.
> 
> To follow licence terms of open source software, he just needs to provide
> source code to those *who bought his server. *Not to everyone.

That is not what the GPLv2 says. Quoting from section 3.

 b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
   ^^^
cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
customarily used for software interchange; or,

(Emphasis provided by me.) This is why the customisation provided by
RedHat (which is extensive!) is available to the people who
distribute CentOS --- all that is not available is the branding.

Regards,

Kapil H. Paranjape.
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[Raja Subramanian]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM, LinuXpert Academy
 wrote:
> FOSS Webstore Server Software Repository Contents
>  FreeBSD 7.1 (i386)
>  NetBSD 4.0.1 (i386, amd64)

Any chance of also including OpenBSD in this excellent list?

- Raja
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Re: [Ilugc] problem in powerMail

[Raja Subramanian]

Sorry for the top post.


Somewhere in your config you need to mention which domains can be
considered local and which ones are remote.  I don't see this in your
config below.

After this step, you'll also need to configure your server to permit
mail relaying. This ensures that clients can send mail to non-local
domains by using your smtp server as a relay host.

HTH.

Raja


On 28/03/2009, Dinesh Kumar  wrote:
> hello,
> We are using Mail Server as PowerMail .*
>
> *Configuration follows
>
> PowerMail Version : powermail-1.7-1
>
> powersmtp.conf has
>
> config-dir=/etc/powermail
> listen-address=0.0.0.0
> listen-port=25
> loglevel=3
> max-msg-kb=2500
> max-userbase-connections=10
> smtp-sender-address=127.0.0.1
> smtp-sender-port=25
> text-base=/etc/powermail/mailboxes
> userbase=text
>
>
> When sending mail using telnet SMTP(25) ,while entering rcpt
> to:x...@gmail.com
> it says "*550 No such mailbox found*"
>
> but mail sending between our domains it works but other domains like
> gmail,yahoo not working .
>
> Any configuration to be done ? solve please ?
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[Ilugc] [X-Post] Freenode is looking for donations

[Parthan SR]

- Forwarded Content --

I will try to keep this brief and to the point. This message has been
cross posted to several lists which will explain why you might get
more than one copy. I hope you find it informative too. Send all
flames to me, not to the lists.

I'm taking off the other hats I wear for a moment to ask for you or
your company's support of Freenode [1] (technically the Peer-Directed
Projects Center or PDPC) now based in the United Kingdom. For those
that don't know, Freenode is an IRC [2] network supporting Open Source
and Free Software communities globally. Another PDPC activity is the
annual FOSSCON conference in the fall. PDPC is specifically [3]
raising funds in order to be recognized by the UK as an official
charitable organization. This status has many benefits, however they
need to raise a certain amount of money by March, 2009. There are
just a few days left in the fundraising campaign.

Canonical Ltd. (the company created by Mark Shuttleworth that drives
Ubuntu Linux) has graciously stepped forward to provide dollar for
dollar matching, magnifying the impact of your donations to PDPC. The
fund raising goal has almost been reached but your contribution is
needed. Brainstorming by the PDPC board of directors for how to use
any funds not used for operations includes hosting live conference
events in Europe and the US, extending current services and improving
the reliability of the freenode network by hosting a few of their own
hubs and backup systems. Freenode is growing rapidly [4] supporting
up to 57,000 concurrent users up from a maximum of about 40,000 18
months ago.

Some people may not be aware that IRC is used by a huge array of Open
Source and Free Software projects. The list of groups [5] Freenode
works with is truly impressive. I feel it is not at all hyperbole to
say that the work done over freenode and OFTC [6] are the real-time
backbone of open source collaboration throughout the world, Coders
use the IRC network to develop applications used by millions of people
every day and provide *end user support*. If you use any open source
software you may be an indirect beneficiary of the services Freenode
provides. I encourage those who are interested to try launching an
IRC client such as Pidgin [7] and see for yourself. You won't be
sorry you did.

While I have used Freenode for many years, this year I too became a
contributor for the first time. For a one time contribution
http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml of as little as $8 you can
join me in supporting Freenode and the many Open Source
projects they serve.

Thanks for your consideration,

--
-- Grant Bowman 


[1] http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml
http://fosscon.org/about/

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat is a form of
group instant messaging first used in 1988. Related sites include
http://www.irchelp.org/ and http://www.irc.org/

[3] http://blog.freenode.net/2008/10/fundraising-for-charity-status/
http://blog.freenode.net/2009/03/20082009-fundraiser-campaign-update/

[4] http://freenode.net/history.shtml also 
http://searchirc.com/network/Freenode


[5] http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml include the Apache
Software Foundation, Canonical Ltd (Ubuntu), Creative Commons
Corporation, Free Software Foundation (GNU Project), Mozilla
Foundation (Firefox), MySQL AB, NetBSD Foundation, Open Darwin
Foundation (Apple builds OSX using Darwin), OpenOffice.org, Red Hat,
Inc. & the World Wide Web Consortium among others.

[6] OFTC is a a similar but much smaller IRC network. See "Freenode
and OFTC IRC networks buddy up", May 2007
http://www.linux.com/articles/62098 also
http://searchirc.com/network/OFTC

[7] http://pidgin.im is an IRC client that runs on Windows, Mac and
Linux formerly named Gaim. http://www.mirc.com/ is also popular on
the Windows platform.

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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[LinuXpert Academy]

>
>Any chance of also including OpenBSD in this excellent list?

Now OpenBSD 4.4 for i386 with repository is part of it and thanks for pointing 
that.

ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.4/i386/
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.4/packages/i386/

and also including amd64 with base packages only.  Any specific request 
including documentation will also be appreciated,
since The "FOSS Webstore Server" focus more on documentation than software 
binaries and sources.

Shall we go with PCBSD 7.0.2 also?

S. Baskar


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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[Rahul Sundaram]

LinuXpert Academy wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> After several months (possibly years) of efforts, LinuXpert Systems has
> developed a
> complete FOSS Lab server to meet the demand of Academic institutions to
> teach FOSS
> using all the latest FOSS software collections available on the internet
> including several new GNU/Linux distribuions,
> linux kernel source code, 300+ foss softwares for windows, 15000+ cpan
> archives, complete wikipedia,
> extensive documentation like TLDP, GNU docs and other software manuals
> (in Text, HTML, PS, PDF formats) with several pre-built features required
> for academic institutions while teaching FOSS.
> 
> For Complete details about the foss lab server
> 
> http://linuxbaskar.googlepages.com/fls.pdf
> 
> Any comments would be appreciated and helpful for further improvement.

Note that there are many custom variants (spins) of Fedora at
http://spins.fedoraproject.org. LTSP and Fedora Electronics Lab spins
are quite popular in India. You might want to include the ones that will
be useful for students.

Rahul
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[Ilugc] Introductory Session on FOSS at Easwari Engg College

[Raman.P]

Dear luggies

I did an introductory session on FOSS to I year MCA students o
Easwari Engg college, Chennai.  The  session was on what is foss, basic GUI, 
some introduction to web programming.

The response was good. 

On behalf of ILUGC I thank HOD of MCA for the opportunity.

Raman.P


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http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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[Ilugc] [Fwd: [உபுண்டு பயனர ்]இந்தவார கூட்டம ்]

[amachu]

 Forwarded Message 
From: பத்மநாதன் 
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Subject: [உபுண்டு பயனர்]இந்தவார கூட்டம்
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:28:57 +

தோழர்களே,
   கடந்தவார கூட்டத்தில் தமிழ் மொழியாக்கம் (குனோம்
மற்றும் கே.ப.சூ ), பொதுவான அதிகம் பயன்படும் கணினி கலைசொற்கள், தமிழ்
சொற்பிழைதிருத்தி மற்றும்  பலவற்றை விவாதித்தோம். இதன் தொடர்ச்சியாக
தமிழ் மொழியாக்கம் செய்யப்பட்ட பயன்பாடுகளை ஆராய்தல், குறைகளைதல்,
மெருகேற்றுதல் மற்றும்  பலவற்றை வரும் வாரம் ஞாயிறன்று மாலை 4 மணி முதல்
5 மணிவரை freenode.net எனும் கூடத்தில் #ubuntu-tam எனும் அறையில்
விவாதிக்கலாம். இக்கூட்டத்தில் அனைவரும்  தவறாது கலந்துகொள்ளவும்.

ந. பத்மநாதன்



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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[Common Man]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Common Man
 wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM, LinuXpert Academy
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Due to the name confusion people had with NRC-FOSS developed "FOSS Lab 
>> Server" and ours, we named
>> our product as "FOSS Webstore Server" which was completely developed by us 
>> in-house.
>>
>> Below is a short description of our "FOSS Webstore Server" configuration and 
>> contents
>>
>> Hardware Configuration Details
>> 
>>
>> Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz processor with Motherboard
>> 2GB DDR RAM
>> 1TB Sata HDD
>> On-Board Ethernet
>> On-Board VGA
>> On-Board USB Ports (Front-side: 2, Back-side: 4)
>> On-Board PS2 Port (Mouse, Keyboard)
>> UMPC Cabinet
>>
>> http://linuxbaskar.googlepages.com/fls.jpg
>
> Dear Mr.Baskar,
>
> Just curious.You have not explicitly mentioned the License under which
> your so called
>  "FOSS Webstore Server" is distributed. You just mentioned the license
> of the s/w's present in "FOSS Webstore Server", not about the
> "Server"'s license.Could you please elaborate?
>
> Common Man
>
Dear Baskar,

You have not still elaborated on my query regarding the license of
your "FOSS Webstore Server". I find no info in your flier regarding
the license under which your "Server" is distributed.

Common Man
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Re: [Ilugc] OT: FOSS Lab Server - A virtual learning environment in Academia

[சிவகுமார் மா]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:

>
> b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
>years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
>   ^^^
>cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
>machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
>distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
>customarily used for software interchange; or,
>
> (Emphasis provided by me.) This is why the customisation provided by
> RedHat (which is extensive!) is available to the people who
> distribute CentOS --- all that is not available is the branding.
>
>
Trying to understand better.

*Accompany it with a written offer*

What does it refer to? Who gets the offer?

My understanding is that, recipient of your software (derivative of GPLed
software) gets the offer of Free Source Code. *not everyone.  *Correct me if
I am wrong.

Best regards,

Ma Sivakumar
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