[Ilugc] [Call for Devs] AuShaDha Call for Python / Django Developers
Hi! The AuShadha project in association with Kanini is proud to announce the opportunity for you to take part in AuShadha's development. AuSdhadha is an up-coming Open Source Electronic Medical Records and Hospital Management System. Unlike the other EMR/HMS software, AuShadha has almost solely been developed by doctors for doctors. This makes AuShadha much better suited for real-world use by doctors since it has been tailored for them specifically. AuShadha has also been developed with a keen sense of the best possible front-end usability and it shows when you use the software. Currently. the doctors have mostly finished all the needed medical modules. They need some help with the non-medical modules like Billing, In-Patient management, Pharmacy, etc,. This call for developers is mainly focused on those unfinished modules. Developers can directly get involved in creating or extending the pluggable Python / Django modules for the AuShadha project. (GNU-GPL Version 3 Licensed). Development mentoring will be available under the AuShadha project lead and core developer Dr. Easwar or front end UI lead Dr. Richard and Mr. Kumaran. An understanding of the Open Source Developmont model and team work along with knowledge of Python, Django, Git and version control would be really useful. I am a novice Python / Django developer. Can you suggest any good reading as I join ? Python: http://swaroopch.com/notes/python/ Mark Pilgrim's Dive into Python ebook Learning Python from O'Reilly Django: Definitive Guide to Django (www.apress.com/9781430219361) Free Django Ebook (http://www.djangobook.com/en/2.0/index.html) AuShadha: Repo: http://github.com/dreaswar/AuShadha Website: http://aushadha.org Ohloh Project Factoids: http://www.ohloh.net/p/AuShadha Medfloss Listing: Among the top 20 popular Medical Open Source Sotfware listed (http://www.medfloss.org/node/271) Whom do I approach: Please send an email to dreas...@gmail.com or kuma...@kums.in with your ideas, personal information and we can discuss the modules that you can involve in. Looking forward to hearing from you :-) With regards, ~~ Kumaran R The Kanini Team. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ILUGC Mailing List Guidelines: http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines
[Ilugc] FOSS Hotel Management System
Hi ILUGC! I've gat a new client, who is opening a new hotel soon. I explained him about the concept, development model and the benefits of using a FOSS based solution. He was impressed and wants to implement a FOSS based Hotel Management Solution. He also has had a bad experience in vendor lock-in. He wants a client-server based model, that'll take care of billing, employee salaries and stock taking. On googling, I found out that there are many Hotel Booking Software that are available. But I couldn't find any software that would fit his needs. So please let me know if there are any FOSS software that would fill this need. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Call for developers
Hi ILUGC! We (Kumaran and Dr. Easwar) are excited to announce that we have achieved a stable base in AuShadha development. The current development stage of AuShadha has largely been the effort of Dr. Easwar himself. AuShadha is an Open Source Electronic Medical Records (EMR) Public Health Management System for Small Clinics. It might be even suited for speciality medical practice after some customisation. It is being developed with Python, Django and Dojo. There are many, great Open Source EMRs that are available, but most of them lack a good front-end. The purpose of AuShadha is to provide a state-of-the-art, visually appealing, easy-to-use intuitive front-end interface that is suited for traditional desktop interfaces. This is the first step in creating a polished open-source EMR. Look out for more UI improvements to come in the future. We strongly believe that any open-source project is only as good as its community. To help improve AuShadha beyond the current state, we thought it would be fun to invite anyone who is interested to develop and contribute to it along with us. We would also like AuShadha to benefit from user-inputs and feature requests. Check out the current state of AuShadha demo here.http://dreaswar.com/2013/01/02/hosted-live-demo-for-aushadha-open-source-electronic-medical-records-project/ To start developing and contributing to AuShadha, please join our mailing-list herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/aushadha . Follow the project news here https://www.facebook.com/AuShadha. (Facebook) Git-hub repo: https://github.com/dreaswar/AuShadha Web-site: http://aushadha.org/ With Regards, ~~Kumaran R and Dr. Easwar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Help needed: OSCommerce and PHP
Hi ILUGC, As some of you might already know, I'm working on an on-line e-commerce platform to sell pre-installed GNU/Linux PCs in India. For this, I have set-up a OSCommerce based web-site at http://kanini.co.in. But I don't have the required technical know-how and experience to set-up and operate it successfully. So I'm asking for help from anyone who is knowledgeable in OSCommerce and PHP. Thanking you in advance. Interested people can contact me off the list at kuma...@kums.in With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Replace crypto-couple Alice and Bob with Sita and Rama'
Hi IMO, Alice, Bob, Carol, Eve, Rama, Ravan, Sita are all fictional characters. In this example, they have been used just for names. And names don't matter, it can be X,Y or Z. What actually matters is the way it is taught. Using a simple real-life example using 3 PCs in a network for demonstrating evesdropping and man in the middle attack will be much better than using names. Here IP addresses are much more useful than any other names. Replacing English names with Indian ones won't make any difference. It is like replacing 'Hello, World' with 'Vanakkam, Ulagam' - It changes nothing. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] 3G out of the box
Hi! My experience with 3G USB Dongles has been this: speed and signal strength totally depend on the location and weather. And you can forget about underground floors - they simply stop working. So I would suggest you to take a kutti survey in your neighbourhood to find out more about which 3G dongle will be the best for you. And IMO, if you have a GUI way of doing anything on a GNU/Linux machine, it can also be done using CLI. And this applies to 3G modems too. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Software Freedom Day
Hi ILUGC! Happy Software Freedom Day!!! :-) :-D With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [fosscomm] Tally Wrapper
Hi, I do agree that there are many Open Source alternatives to Tally and GNUCash. I would recommend GNU Cash for SMEs and larger enterprises should use the server based ones like OpenERP. Most of the failiures with ERP implementation is because of practical problems, which often result due to the laziness of the people who are using it. Yes it can do wonders. People in accounting department of most places, don't like changing their way of working. And since they handle cash, no body wants any delays from / because of them. The problem with Tally, IMO is that it is not open source. If it was, then not having a GNU/Linux version wouldn't be much of a problem as anyone can easily port it to GNU/Linux. Tally because of its closed source nature cannot be as secure as GNUCash or OpenERP or the other OSS alternatives. This is a situation where the concern is not about the money being spent. But it is more about security and ease of use. Again the data being encrypted doesn't depend on the software, but on the tunneling. SSH can come to the rescue here. Ultimately, we need companies that give guarenteed implementation, maintance and 24/7 support for Open Source ERPs like OpenERP and GNU Cash. With regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] checkpoint configuration in linux
Hi, Is the check point client actually needed for the VPN configuration? I think using openVPN client would be better. It works well with untangle firewall. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [fosscomm] Tally Wrapper
Hi, It would be really nice if we can switch from Tally altogether. Does anyone know a tool that can transfer data from Tally to GNUCash? IMO, GNUCash has more features than Tally has. It accomodates well with the Indian Double Book Accounting system. And it has a price that is hard to beat. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] call for volunteer - Foss news
I'm in With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Awesome story of migration to open source in a hospital at coimbatore
Hi ILUGC, Sorry for the delayed response. The software vendor is Insta Hospital Management Solutions. http://www.instahealthsolutions.com/ The software is not open source. However it has been deployed on a Ubuntu 8.04 server, which has not been updated. Although they do give root access to the system. Which was how I was able to these details. I didn't update the system either lest some dependencies should fail to work. My blog post regarding the same is getting ready. Will be out soon. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Sundaram KR sundaram.ramachand...@kggroup.com wrote: Hospital Management Software Maintained by Software Vendor ? is it running on ubuntu setup? is this open source software? if so, please let us know which one. Actually, I spoke to the doctor this afternoon and asked the same question. The software itself is based on java I believe, but it is now completely deployed on servers and clients running open source operating systems. The source code is however been provided, but under NDA, so it is not open source. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] vlc player is not working fedora 17
Hi Try running yum reinstall vlc Similar situation happened to me long time back and that fixed it. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Robot programming in CBSE international curriculum
What about using the Fedora robotics suite? It is a showcase of all the robotics software available in linux. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt. Free Laptop Review
Thank you to all for the replies. I am not trying to eradicate MS or anything. Although I would like to. But in reality, it is nearly impossible. It is possible in a closed environment, like an office, where the IT manager is a FOSS enthusiast. But as far as school students are concerned, it is extremely difficult to remove MS, although I believe it is possible with the school's help. Yes, I agree that 95% of the students are computer users rather than learners. But GNU/Linux today, especially distros like Ubuntu are targeted at the end-users rather than learners. With my observation, I've seen quite a number of students who are interested to learn and use GNU/Linux without any exam or curriculum whatsoever. A recent trend that I've observed among school students is that some of them have taken GNU/Linux as a status symbol. i.e. They are proud of using it. And most of these students are not CS students. They're mostly bio/commerce/economics students. If this trend continues, I don't think it would be necessary to have GNU/Linux in the curriculum, with exams and force students to use GNU/Linux. Another problem with forcing students to learn GNU/Linux, is that they would only view it as another burden rather than a OS that would ease their computer use. This is mostly because, any curriculum based on GNU/Linux introduces students with the command-line. And most students are afraid of the command line. This would make them view GNU/Linux as a step backward from Windows rather than a step-forward. So, I think it would be best to give the students GNU/Linux, and let them explore by themselves, probably with a set of Spoken tutorial DVDs for help. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt. Free Laptop Review
Hi, Yes it is an incorrect assumption made by them. But most of them still do it. I have personally introduced around 30 of my friends to GNU/Linux, and most of them still don't use the command line. IMO, GNU/Linux is not only for CS guys but also for the general public. And I don't prefer forcing them to use the command-line. I've seen many of my friends who could have become interested in CS but for their introduction to C in their 9th and 10th grade. This scares most of them away from CS. I also believe that there is more to GNU/Linux than the command line. For eg. I want schools to teach computers as tools for education rather than using them as a subject on its own right. We've lots of educational tools like GCompris, Stellarium, Step, etc,. I don't think that the command line would be necessary to make them use this. I personally love the command-line, but I don't think it would be right for most people, who just want their computers to help them, rather than wanting to learn how it works. For those who are interested in learning more, can do so with Linux, unlike Windows, which prevents them from learning. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] TN Govt. Free Laptop Review
Hi ILUGC! Yesterday I got the pleasure of using one of the TN govt. laptops. I think we all remember the struggle whch we had to take to make the laptop a dual-boot one. And it has paid off (atleast partially.) Hardware Specs: Intel Pentium Dual Core@2.3 GHz, 2 GB DDR3 RAM (upgradable to 8GB), 320 GB Western Digital SATA 2.5 HDD, 14.1 1366x768 LCD Screen, etc,. On the whole the laptop doesn't feel cheap. Its light in weight thanks to the absence of a DVD drive and Wifi. The keyboard is not upto Lenovo standards, but it is still much better than most laptop keyboards. I'm typing this email in this keyboard, and it offers good feedback.. The display is a 14 1366x768. It has good brightness but poor viewing angles and lots of glare, thanks to the glossy finish. The lack of wifi is a huge disappointment. The battery lasted just under 3 hours (2:58) while doing light web-browsing and playing music (max. brightness and max. volume). Overall, the design is good with a good textured feel. It feels solid to hold, and doesn't have lots of flex. It has a dual boot with Windows 7 Professional and BOSS GNU/Linux. I haven't tested Windows 7 much. It has a Office 2010 Starter Edition and Microsoft Security Essentials (I doubt if that is an anti-virus.) It has few educational apps too. Most of the hard-disk space (~200 GB) is allocated for it. It logs in by default as a root user. The BOSS Linux 4.0, has GNOME 2.30 and OpenOffice.org 3.2. It has few educational apps like Thirukural and Tamil Keyboard. It also has the TN govt. textbooks for classes 11 and 12 in .pdf format. I had to update 8 packages after connecting to the internet. They have just shifted the top panel to the bottom to make it more windows-like. Overall, BOSS works fine and fast.. It has iceweasel and icedove for web-browsing and mail. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt. Free Laptop Review
Hi ILUGC! IMHO, I think it would have been better for ELCOT to have skipped Windows and instead put that money into a WiFi chipset. The educational apps on BOSS Linux seem much lesser than the ones in Windows. I think that GNOME 2.3 could have looked a lot better. Or, they should have used Ubuntu LTS/ Linux Mint. Anyway, now that it is being rolled out, I guess it would be good for us if we start online spoken tutorials on how to use BOSS instead of Windows. I am planning on making a custom distro based on Edubuntu LTS (12.04) or something similar, for installation on this laptop. Any ideas? What about a 1-day class for this, wherever it gets distributed? With regards, ~~Kumaran R -- With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt. Free Laptop Review
I was thinking of the same thing. But I don't think I'd be able to check that, because this is a borrowed laptop, and opening the case might not be acceptable. I want the people who own one of these to find that out. Also, I wonder as to why the BOSS people have decided to go with their own repos. I think it would have been better to use the upstream Debian repos instead. The BOSS repos are out-dated, for eg. Chromium is in version 7. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] MS Cloud operations in TN
Hi ILUGC, I guess it is time for ILUGC to start another campaign against the TN govt. When the neighboring state of Kerala is doing so much with Open Source, why is TN govt. falling into a trap with MS? (Refer yesterday's hindu: http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2967682.ece) IMO, the last thing that we would want is for our state to fall into a vendor lock-in with MS. I guess it would take a fraction of the cost if we develop TN. govt. its own private cloud. Anyway, I think we first need to tell TN govt. that what they are doing is wrong. Any ideas on how to go about with this? With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Please suggest Linux server
I don't know much about the server hardware requirements. But IMO, you can have the Desktops in this configuration: CPU+Board: Intel Atom Desktop Kit - Rs. 3400 RAM - Hynix LapTop RAM 1 GB - Rs. 475 No Hard-Disk Some Case ~ Rs.1000 We had a similar issue in my school, and we had to dispose of around 15 thin-clients. Now, we're using the above configuration (but with HDDs). You can use PXE and reduce your cost. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Any Finger Print Reader for Authentication?
Hi, I have a HP laptop and the fingerprint reader works fine in fedora, but not so in Ubuntu... so perhaps the driver is already there... :-) With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Streaming video over LAN
Hi, I have a small requirement, I'd like to set up a video stream in my school, from one room to another. It doesn't need to be streaming technically, as it'll be only a short-term arrangement, for the culturals. I thought of using X over SSH and using cheese to get the video out-put from the webcam. Alternately I though of using VNC, but i don't know if it'd be feasible to transfer video output through VNC. Any comments/ suggestions are welcome. :-) With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Help regarding Project
Hi, If you're interested in network security, you can take a look at nmap, wireshark, airsnort, etc,. Try contributing to these projects in small ways like bug-reporting... :-) With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Microphone not working
Hi, Check of its been put on mute... Its trivial but still i had many of my friends complain due to that... Moreover, i would not recommend using skype... With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] TN Govt. LapTop
Hi, As we all know, the Laptops distributed by the TN govt. is going to have only non-free software. So as a counter measure I had an idea of making posters, banners, hand-outs and brochures, explaining the ill-effects of using windows and the costs involved. Can people who are good in GIMP or Inkscape design such things so that people can distribute it when a laptop distribution ceremony is going on? We would need as many different types or versions of the posters/ banners hand-outs et al to do this. Expecting co-operation and help from all LUG people. Please help to spread the message. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series Driver problem
Hi, The proprietary drivers for ATi are generally a waste. If you're on F15, I recommend you to use the nouveau drivers, which are better than the ATi drvers. Also, if you're installing ATi drivers make sure, you build a rpm package and then install it through yum/rpm so that uninstall is easier. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Suggest Best software to write DVD VCD
Hi, Give gnome-baker and k3b a try... although k3b might pull in a lot of kde libs, it is fairly powerful... Also, if you're adventurous, you can try woodim, cdrdao, mkisofs, etc,. With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] IM server
Hi, Why not try a drupal module, that supports IM? With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Software Freedom Day'11 @ Jaya Engineering college Grand success
Hi @Aravind anna, @Raman P, @Vignesh anna, et al First of all a big thank you... Yes FOSS is good... :-) Actually my given topic for the speech at Jaya Engineering College was for creating a Fedora remix, but I couldn't do that because all the students were 1st years who didn't know anything about Linux. So I proceeded to talk to them about the history of Free Software and why they should use GNU/Linux. My thanks to the college chairman for offering me a seat.. But IMHO, the most important person for helping Jaya Engineering College is Kumaran Sir, the HOD of CSC dept. So a big thanks to him too for helping to bring the college to this level :-) With Regards, ~~Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fedora 14 I/O issues
Hi, I think it might be a problem with the graphics driver. Is the system a Intel one or a nVidia/ATi one? I faced similar problems after installing the ATi/nVidia proprieary drivers. For me the solution was to create a rpm package of the driver and then install it using yum... With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fedora 14 Display Monitor Resolution
Hi, Since Fedora 14 has automatic display configuration, which works without xorg.conf. So, you can try deleting all xorg.conf and xorg.conf backup files. But make sure that you create a backup of a working xorg.conf. You can also try using system-config-display, as super user when you're in run-level 3 w/o a running X. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Documentation about Sugar interface
Hi, You can easily try Sugar in any of the leading distros, like Ubuntu or Fedora. Fedora also has a live educational spin, with Sugar pre-installed. It is called the Sugar on a Stick. You can check that out too. Sugar on windows, is not supported due to ethical controversies. There is an old installer though, which is not current and not recommended, as it does not have any activities. Your best bet would be to install the fedora spin using a virtual machine like virtualbox or vmware. Links: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Controversies http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_systems/Windows With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Documentation about Sugar interface
Hi, You can easily try Sugar in any of the leading distros, like Ubuntu or Fedora. Fedora also has a live educational spin, with Sugar pre-installed. It is called the Sugar on a Stick. You can check that out too. Sugar on windows, is not supported due to ethical controversies. There is an old installer though, which is not current and not recommended, as it does not have any activities. Your best bet would be to install the fedora spin using a virtual machine like virtualbox or vmware. Links: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Controversies http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_systems/Windows With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Booting 2 hard-disks using GRUB
Hi, I have 2 hard-disks, a 500 GB with CentOS, and a 250 GB with Fedora. Each has its own grub in the hard-disk MBR. Both are grub legacy. Now, i'm using the bios' start-up boot sequence utility to choose between the two. I would like to keep my 500 gb as the start-up disk and be able to chainload the MBR of the 250 GB. As i;m reinstalling Fedora, should i install its grub in the first sector of the disk, rather than the MBR? With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ssd and linux
Hi, Most of my friends are going to buy an SSD, mostly due to its quicker boot time and random read and write speeds. As far as prices in India, SSDs are definietly costlier, because a 2TB HDD costs 4.7k while a 30 GB Kingston one costs 4k. The kingston is slow, but the intel ones available here is slow. One of the main advantages for laptops is that portability is increased, because the drive will have no moving parts, so no more head crashes. In benchmarking it has been found that even the slowest SSDs are better for everyday use than the fastest 10k WD Raptor drives. So, that might justify the price. Another potential use for an SSD, is using it for the /, /usr, /var/ tm, usr/local, /opt, /srv,etc,. and have /home and other Data storage partitions in a HDD. This is especially useful for servers, where /var on the SSD, makes things quite fast. Also, swap can be kept on the HDD, to reduce wear leveling. I think ext4 with noatime, and /tmp and /var/tmp as RAM Drives, would a lso reduce wear leveling. Yet to try btrfs... Even on a HDD, according to Linus himself, noatime is a good fs option. As a rule, in my all my linux boxes, I edit fstab in such a way, all my partitions, except swap have the noatime option. I also include, two RAM Drives, /tmp and /var/tmp. This is because data in both the partitions, don't need to be stored after a restart. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] need LAN connectivity without internet for few systems.
Hi, From the student's point of view, and as a student myself, cutting of internet access totally is very restrictive, and more harmful than having unmetered access. In this era of internet, its use and mis-use is one's one responsibility. I think that monitoring the system's activity remotely using VNC, or logging internet usage would be a good idea, as the concept of logging and monitoring deters much unwanted behavior. I would also suggest using a DNS based blocking system, like openDNS. P.S: Remember, Linux is not Windows, and users are not supposed to be logged in as root, and student's do not need sudo privileges normally. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] sound problem
Hi, My dad has a Lenovo Ideapad S10-3S, and I face the same problem. I traced that the problem was due to the dolby surround headphones feature. So, i'm also working on how to get around this issue. Please check that if your laptop also has the dolby certified sticker or something like that. I guess it changes the the line-in to another line-out, so that you can get 4 channel audio. But the control is only through windows (which I barely used for an hour :-P), so I'm not sure. It works with only software control I guess... (like the old winmodems) With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Free and Open Source Licenses
Hi, Thanks for the reply and the link. By the term of Intellectual Property rights, I meant to say RTI, Patents, etc,. He's already doing RTI related filings. By the way, he's busy as it is with his profession, it was just due to my request, that he said that he'd take a look into the legal side of FOSS. Any more materials? With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Free and Open Source Licenses
Hi, As I've already told in the January meeting, my dad wants to do more in FOSS. I suggested that he could become an advocate and legal advisor for FOSS projects. As he is interested in Intellectual Property rights, he accepted that he'd help us. I've asked him to read the GPL, which he has done. But, now he needs more resources to fully understand the community, and the bazaar system of development, that FOSS uses. I also need materials explaining about CVS, and the problems faced during combinig of different licenses. I thought he should get in touch with SFLC, India, what do you think about that? P.S: You can contact him at radhakrishnan at maasu dot in. He's a passive member of the mailing list too. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] FIRST WEB SITE!
Hi, First of all, congratulations for successfully deploying a wordpress based web-site. Can you please us the server side infrastructure that you're using? Is it deployed on your own Linux box, or hosted outside, or is it hosted in the cloud? Also, tell us about the domain registrar... With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] VB and Flash in CBSE curriculum
Hi, I'm a school student myself studying in CBSE, 11th Std., As far as I can remember, I was taught VB and Flash in my 6th and 7th std. too, but then I never payed much attention to it, because I was playing with Eclipse and Blender at my home. Also, the marks are not included for promotion (if that's the main criteria). I don't think CBSE mandates the curriculum for CS below class 9 (have to check it up). I would like to say that CBSE has changed its senior secondary curriculum to comply with Open standards. They have 2 streams - namely CS (Computer Science) and IP (Informatics Practices). CS deals with C++ and IP deals with the front-end and back-end connectivity. Previously, CBSE had used VB and Oracle for the IP stream. But now, I'm learning Netbeans w/ JAVA and MySQL. But then again, the SWING API which we're learning now in Netbeans has become obsolete. Both the products are owned by a single company, namely Oracle, which has earned the wrath of many Open source enthusiasts. The C++ that is being taught in schools, is by using the old Turbo C++ ide. It's high time they change it to gcc. As far as my text book is concerned it goes like this: Now click the start button, go to programs menu and choose MySQL command prompt. Some of my friends whom I've asked to switch, have asked me, Will C++ work in Linux? :-( Although CBSE has mandated that the curriculum has to be based on open standards, what is the use of having an entire open stack of applications to learn, when your base Operating System is closed and proprietary? With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] VB and Flash in CBSE curriculum
Hi, I'm a school student myself studying in CBSE, 11th Std., As far as I can remember, I was taught VB and Flash in my 6th and 7th std. too, but then I never paid much attention to it, because I was playing with Eclipse and Blender at my home. Also, the marks are not included for promotion (if that's the main criteria). I don't think CBSE mandates the curriculum for CS below class 9 (have to check it up). With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] VB and Flash in CBSE curriculum
Hi, I'm a school student myself studying in CBSE, 11th Std., As far as I can remember, I was taught VB and Flash in my 6th and 7th std. too, but then I never paid much attention to it, because I was playing with Eclipse and Blender at my home. Also, the marks are not included for promotion (if that's the main criteria). I don't think CBSE mandates the curriculum for CS below class 9 (have to check it up). With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] VB and Flash in CBSE curriculum
Hi, I would like to say that CBSE has changed its senior secondary curriculum to comply with Open standards. They have 2 streams - namely CS (Computer Science) and IP (Informatics Practices). CS deals with C++ and IP deals with the front-end and back-end connectivity. Previously, CBSE had used VB and Oracle for the IP stream. But now, I'm learning Netbeans w/ JAVA and MySQL. But then again, the SWING API which we're learning now in Netbeans has become obsolete. Both the products are owned by a single company, namely Oracle, which has earned the wrath of many Open source enthusiasts. The C++ that is being taught in schools, is by using the old Turbo C++ ide. It's high time they change it to gcc. As far as my text book is concerned it goes like this: Now click the start button, go to programs menu and choose MySQL command prompt. Some of my friends whom I've asked to switch, have asked me, Will C++ work in Linux? :-( Although CBSE has mandated that the curriculum has to be based on open standards, what is the use of having an entire open stack of applications to learn, when your base Operating System is closed and proprietary? With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [field-report] Android in x86
Hi, I have tried android 2.2 (froyo) on IBM Thinkpad R51 (Centrino 1.6, 512 MB RAM) on a live cd. I also tried it in a HP nc6400 (Core Duo, 3 GB RAM). On both the computers it ran fine, except for dialing, which killed the phone service (due to obvious reasons). Generally, it was fast and responsive. We can use it as a test bed for app development and also for testing android before investing in a device. The live cd is only 86 MB in size. They even have an option for installing it to your hard-drive, although I didn't test it. Being a touch based interface, it was a bit awkward to use a pointing device. Maybe some day we can have android running as a quick-boot OS for netbooks (aka splashtop). I also noticed that Android may be considered practically the first OS, to use Linux w/o the GNU system. So, maybe when talking about Android, using Linux rather than GNU/Linux is better. :-D P.S.: It failed to run on my AMD system, due to graphics problems. Link: http://www.android-x86.org/ With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu CD customisation help needed
Hi, I don't think you need to create a custom live cd for such a trivial thing. I agree with what Mr. Balaji has said. But if you're interested in desinging your own LiveCD you can take a look at remastersys. A better alternative would be to have a central PXE server with Ubuntu and have all the other systems as diskless configuration. Another approach would be to have a VNC server w/ Ubuntu and let the other users connect to it through VNC. Hope it is of help to you. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Android Porting
Hi, I'm trying to get android working on my dad's lenovo ideapad s10-3s netbook. I've tried it in my comp. using virtualization. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Kwin and Compiz Composting
Hi, I would like to know how to get the maximize and restore animation of compiz in KDE using Kwin. Any ideas/clues? P.S.: I'm using Fedora 14 w/ KDE 4.5.5 SC With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] RHEL vs Centos vs fedora
Hi, Personally I use Fedora 14 and CentOS 5.5. I've used RHEL 5.x and am yet to test RHEL 6. I use Fedora, for desktops and CentOS for my servers. I find CentOS/RHEL to be more stable than many other distros. Fedora and RHEL are both funded by Redhat. In short, Fedora is the testbed for RHEL. Usually, Fedora is the bleeding edge software, so tends to be unstable. It is supported with updates for 13 months, and is released every 6 months. So, it gives you the option of skipping 1 release. It has community support. RHEL is the mature Fedora, after bug-fixing. It is currently the industry standard Enterprise Linux solution. It has extended support upto 10 years, and a new release is launched every 2-3 years. It is highly stable, and geared towards the industry, with extensive virtualization support. Redhat primarily makes money by supporting RHEL. Don't expect to use the latest version of Open/Libre Office or Firefox, if you're using RHEL. CentOS/Scientific Linux is just a redhat branding stripped version of RHEL. It lags behind RHEL by a couple of moths. It's also very stable. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Canonical's comprehensive list of hardware certified to work with Linux
Hi, I think they should also include pre-built PCs and Laptops, with a star rating. For eg. my Lenovo S10-3s, works mostly in Ubuntu, except for the touchpad integrated mouse buttons, and broadcam wireless drivers which stop working after waking up from standby. It could also be made like a wiki, with an app in Ubuntu, where users can rate their hardware, and submit it to the site. (like Windows Experience Index) With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] :Is there a linux equivalent for oracle sql plus
Hi, You can try MySQL, Libre Office Base, PgSQL, Ingress, Oracle 11g, etc,. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language
Hi, I think learning C would be good for a start. One advantage of C is that it is the most used language of the kernel. So if you're interested in kernel programming, C is a must have. I've heard that the book Deep C Secrets written by an Indian author is a good place to start. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] need a web mail client with pop3 support
Hi, SquirrelMail is capable of retrieving e-mail from a POP3 server, via the included Mail Fetch plugin. However, SquirrelMail requires an IMAP server to run atop of. The IMAP server store the e-mails and is also used for authentication, so if there is no IMAP server, SquirrelMail can not be used. With Regards, --Kumaran R = ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Alternate GIMP classes instead of PhotoShop
Hi, My sister wants to learn Photoshop, but I do not have Photoshop and Windows :-D. Also, I'm not able to find a training center that deals with GIMP. I've approached some institutes, and they tell Linux training is only available as RHCE, NCLP, etc,. But then my sister doesn't want to learn all that. She just has to get her work photo editing done using GIMP. Sure, there are Video tutorials, but then I think we should have at-least 1 computer training institute, where GIMP is taught. If you know of any such place, please let me know. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] New Year Resolution
Hi, Admit it! We love to bitch about how terrible India is. How terrible our economy is. How we’ll never be able to clean up the gross pollution….. The bitter fact is that we’re always waiting for someone to begin a ‘MASS MOVEMENT’ that would ‘CHANGE INDIA’S ECONOMY, CLEAN UP OUR STREETS AND ERADICATE POVERTY – OVERNIGHT’. Wake up people! That’s never gonna happen. Forget the MASS MOVEMENT. Why don’t we start a small, tiny, microscopic movement? Just YOU, ME and OUR FRIENDS. Let’s get together and make four small NEW YEAR RESOLUTIONS that we WON’T break. 1. LET’S RESOLVE NOT TO BARGAIN: Don’t we all love to bargain with our local vendor. Cut him/her down a rupee or two? Would we ever try this at a Shopping Mall like Food World? Or at a Raymonds/Garden showroom? They’re the ones that rip us off BIG TIME! The few extra rupees our local vendor makes off us would go a long way to improve his/her life. That’s where our economic growth begins. 2. LET’S RESOLVE TO PAY OUR LABOURERS A LITTLE MORE: Pretty much the same thing. Quite often we are Paisa wise and Rupee foolish. Paying our servant/dhobi/sewage cleaner a few rupees more will go a long way in ensuring that the so-called ‘lower strata’ of India is given more purchasing power. That is definitely the first step in building up our economy. It won’t blow a hole in our pockets – trust me. 3. LET’S RESOLVE TO USE DUSTBINS: Of course you’re gonna say that you’re already doing that. Well, think about the many times you’ve tossed a scrap of paper onto the road murmering to yourself, “er..no..dustbin in sight..”. Think about the times you tossed a paper/plastic cup out of your car/a bus/a train thinking that one tiny scrap won’t make too much of a difference. Now think about two million people doing the same thing!! It’s a fact that we don’t have enough dustbins in public places. But would it hurt to carry your litter to the nearest dustbin? I’ve done it and it hasn’t hurt one bit. 4. LET’S RESOLVE NOT TO SPIT IN PUBLIC: Sometimes I think this is India’s national sport! Paan, phlegm, just about anything…PTHEW! Onto the street. On the wall. On the door. On the train. In the bus… In fact I had the misfortune of finding myself behind a brand new Mercedes at a signal. Click! The door opened and a cool looking dude popped his head out and spat his true colours onto the road!! Man! Let’s just try and contain it till we reach a wash basin, or find a tissue that would help us dispose of it. I bet we as a Nation will save tons of money on whitewashing alone if this can be done. This isn’t a big SAVE INDIA MOVEMENT. It’s a ‘LET’S GET REAL’ movement. Follow these four resolutions to start with, pass it on to your friends and I bet that by the end of this year the change will be evident. If you’re convinced, pass this on to your friends with a personal note. You won’t get bad luck if you don’t, you won’t get a lucky phone call within 5 minutes if you do, but you’ll definitely make a change. FORGET THE MOVEMENT. YOU ARE THE MOVEMENT. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] how to stop automatic updates
Hi, Good to hear that you got your broadband connection. But unfortunately, the link that BSNL gives works only with Internet Explorer. :-( But I think you can use Wireshark to analyze your network usage. Or else you can try creating a shell script. Be careful with torrents though! With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] i wish to stop reciving the mail
Hi Gautham, Do you want to un-subscribe from ilugc mailing list just due to your inbox getting full? I suggest that you create a filter and let all messages with the subject [ilugc] go to a seperate folder. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] how to stop automatic updates
Hi, Automatic updates are very important for any computer connected to the internet. But most of the Windows machines disable it due to the Windows Genuine Advantage problem. Further, with Linux you will need to install software from the on-line repository which will also consume your download limit. I strongly suggest you to go for an unlimited connection. You can also try other ISP like You telecom, Tikona, etc,. for cheaper unlimited connections. But, if you still want to disable automatic updates, you can do it with the help of Synaptic Package Manager, in Ubuntu. P.S: MP3, DVD codecs and Flash plugins will also have to be downloaded from the Internet With Regards, --Kumaran R -Original Message- From: balaji sivanath starbala2...@gmail.com To: ilugc ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in Sent: Mon, Dec 6, 2010 10:23 am Subject: [Ilugc] how to stop automatic updates hi, i am going to apply for bsnl limited plan,now am using ubuntu.. my friends said limited plan is dangerous,they will not show correct bandwidth usage it will end up in huge bills. how to check correct bandwidth usage and how to stop automatic updates,no application should connect internet without my permission, what to do for that? Regards, Balaji sivanath ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Re: EduFair
Hi, A quick note on Cyclone and Bhavan's Yi: Bhavans YI is a part of the Young Indians net, an integral part of the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) and comprises of a group of young Indian achievers and professionals from various walks of like. It lives with the belief that young Indians can contribute to the community and society at large. It was started to involve the youth in social and developmental projects. It focuses on issues of national importance and motivates a generational change in the economic and social agenda of India. Bhavan's Rajaji Vidyashram(my school) has housed Yi for five years. Some of the projects done by us are: A book mark sale in Odyssey, the proceeds of which were donated to charity Traffic management in and around school, encouraging car pooling for our school students The green cover, where we planted saplings in our school premises. On International Climate Action Day, 350 saplings were planted as 350 is the safest ppm of carbon dioxide limit in the atmosphere. A special Diwali sale We donated clothes and toys collected from our students to a school for the mentally and physically challenged, Gnana Deepam Slum empowerment project wherein we aim on empowering the slum dwellers of our locality by teaching them employable skills. We conducted a medical camp for them and managed to help 200+ with the aid of VS Hospital We shall also be creating awareness on certain issues which will be done in the form of street plays, seminars, etc,. As part of our projects this year, we are organising an a Educational Fair, to give the school drop-outs from the nearby slums to give them a chance to earn a living. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Blue screen error in Centos 5.5 .
Hi Muthu Saravanan, Can you please explain in detail when the error occurred. i.e before grub or after grub. If grub is fine, please start the system in runlevel 1, using kernel parameters in grub. Please try these and reply. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] automatic language translation from english to tamil
Hi, Tamil support does not seem to be present in Google Translate, delaying translation of websites to tamil. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] HI friends help immediately
Hi, I think this should help you to solve the problem. After dropping into root shell, typing this: # e2fsck -cDfp device-name With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] EduFair
Hi, This mail is to inform all members of ILUGC about Bhavan's (my school) Young Indian's Educational Fair. One of the leading complaints of people whom I have switched toFOSS is that there is virtually no local PC guy who knows FOSSsoftware. So, if they call them up for some help, they justreinstall *Windows*. So, I realized the need for Local PC guys whoknow FOSS. I saw the opportunity for that in the EduFair. EduFair is a Educational Fair (you guessed it right) for school drop-outs from slums of near-by areas for our school. It gives thema chance to work and make a living. NGOs would be offering themvarious options in the field of vocational training. Around 500+school drop-outs would be attending the EduFair. I thought ILUGC would be a great NGO in teaching them various simple FOSS skills like installing and configuring Ubuntu, etc.,Zoho (the SAAS Office Provider) is also coming. I hope the kindhearted persons in ILUGC would be able to teach them the basicskills that The Local PC Guy requires. The main problem as far asI can see now, is getting The Local PC Guys to accept that thereare better software that is free. We don't have to make the schooldrop-outs unlearn the conventional *Windows* tricks. It would begood deed to us all, because we can start consuming the resources offered by the new FOSS-trained Local PC Guys. By the way, it'snot going to be free, and we can expect Yi Net to give some moneyfor the training purposes. The event is to be held on the comingSunday. Bhavan's is willing to let us have a stall, so that theinterested guys can come and have a look. P.S: Most of school drop-outs are not totally unaware of computers. They do know most basic stuff. The event is being organized this Sunday (5th December) With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] FOSS.in
Hi, This mail is to inform all ilugc members of the FOSS.in conference to be held in Nimhans Convention Center, Hosur Road, Banglore on 15th to 17th December 2010. The registration fees is Rs.750, until November 30th 2010. So, hurry. The registration fees for students is Rs. 500. It is one of the largest annual FOSS events in Asia, attended by some of the eminent international FOSS personalities. Check out http://foss.in for further details. With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
