Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

[Viksit Gaur]

Hey!

> No.  If you want to protect your music don't protect
> the people who
> write software -- prosecute those who use the
> software to perform
> illegal acts.
> 
True. Brings to mind the RIAA suing that 12 year old
girl though! Brianna Something, from NYC.

> Remember -- it's not the tool that is illegal, it's
> the use to which
> it is put by an individual that is or is not.
> 
Well put.

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

[Viksit Gaur]

> 
> This is actually a gray area - while Free Software
> is about *creating* 
> gray area and not stealing ideas from others, some
> times it becomes 
> imperative that a proprietary technology is made
> available to the 
> public(through a Free software ofcourse) when the
> technology becomes 
> critical for the masses - e.g. making software which
> reads MSOffice 
> files(Abiword,OOo), or making software which
> interoperates with MS 
> machines in a file sharing network(Samba).
> 

Well, as for this argument, the companies in question
wouldnt go against such programs because the End
Result is the propogation of their own technology - be
it Word files or Win interoperability. But in terms of
Apple's itunes or other such programs, I'm sure the
arguments dont hold.

> 1. But the general idea of problems of this nature
> is - that if you dont 
> like the policies of the company who creates this
> technology in the 
> first place - dont buy it. Nobody is forcing you to
> do so!
Exactly. But I'm *not* buying it. I'm creating an
alternative for myself and thousands of others, to get
the product yet not paying for it. Maybe this is where
the creation of Gray areas comes in.. 

> 2. On the other hand, people have strong opinions on
> the very terms 
> under which this technology is given and find it
> "unfairly" restrictive.
> 
But can you blame a company from trying to make
profits by selling a service - Apple hasnt exactly put
in unfair trade practices or something, which might
lead to ideological differences? 

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

[Raj Mathur]

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> "Viksit" == Viksit Gaur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Viksit> Hmm.. Just some thoughts..

Viksit> I'm totally with the "Freedom to create and distribute"
Viksit> tag. But, what if you think from the corporate viewpoint?

Viksit> Suppose my company (i dont work for any, btw :) has spent
Viksit> a million bucks in developing and promoting a technology,
Viksit> would I like it if someone was to develop something which
Viksit> circumvents my security measures and possibly eat into or
Viksit> even trivialize my profits?

You may not like it but you'd have to live with it.  Just as you have
the right to embed security into your software, others have the right
to study, hack and bypass that security.

I think you're missing the important point here -- stealing music is
illegal, but providing tools that MAY be used to steal music isn't.
If we support the banning of tools that may possibly be used for
illegal purposes we'll have to ban just about everything -- starting
with computers, Winduhs, Linux, gdb, nmap, C compilers, Perl, netstat,
ping, mutt, Emacs, EVERYTHING!

Viksit> As the management in charge of the company, I might
Viksit> *personally* appreciate original work being done by
Viksit> hackers and the community in general, but officially?
Viksit> Arent they just a pain which i'd want to counter ASAP?

No.  If you want to protect your music don't protect the people who
write software -- prosecute those who use the software to perform
illegal acts.

Remember -- it's not the tool that is illegal, it's the use to which
it is put by an individual that is or is not.

Regards,

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[ilugd] Re: [LIH](fwd) [SECURITY] [DSA 431-2] New perl packages fix information leak in suidperl

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

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urgent only if you use suid-perl

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[ilugd] (fwd) [SECURITY] [DSA 488-1] New logcheck packages fix insecure temporary directory

[Raj Mathur]

[Please upgrade if you have logcheck installed on any distribution -- Raju]

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Package: logcheck
Vulnerability  : insecure temporary directory
Problem-Type   : local
Debian-specific: no
CVE Ids: CAN-2004-0404

Christian Jaeger reported a bug in logcheck which could potentially be
exploited by a local user to overwrite files with root privileges.
logcheck utilized a temporary directory under /var/tmp without taking
security precautions.  While this directory is created when logcheck
is installed, and while it exists there is no vulnerability, if at
any time this directory is removed, the potential for exploitation exists.

For the current stable distribution (woody) this problem has been
fixed in version 1.1.1-13.1woody1.

For the unstable distribution (sid), this problem has been fixed in
version 1.1.1-13.2.

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[ilugd] (fwd) [SECURITY] [DSA 431-2] New perl packages fix information leak in suidperl

[Raj Mathur]

[Please upgrade Perl -- Raju]

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 18:51:19 -0700

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Package: perl
Vulnerability  : information leak
Problem-Type   : local
Debian-specific: no
CVE Ids: CAN-2003-0618

Paul Szabo discovered a number of similar bugs in suidperl, a helper
program to run perl scripts with setuid privileges.  By exploiting
these bugs, an attacker could abuse suidperl to discover information
about files (such as testing for their existence and some of their
permissions) that should not be accessible to unprivileged users.

DSA 431-1 incorporated a partial fix for this problem.  This advisory
includes a more complete fix which corrects some additional cases.

For the current stable distribution (woody) this problem has been
fixed in version 5.6.1-8.7.

For the unstable distribution, this problem has been fixed in version
5.8.3-3.

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

[Sandip Bhattacharya]

Viksit Gaur wrote:
Suppose my company (i dont work for any, btw :) has
spent a million bucks in developing and promoting a
technology,  would I like it if someone was to develop
something which circumvents my security measures and
possibly eat into or even trivialize my profits?
This is actually a gray area - while Free Software is about *creating* 
gray area and not stealing ideas from others, some times it becomes 
imperative that a proprietary technology is made available to the 
public(through a Free software ofcourse) when the technology becomes 
critical for the masses - e.g. making software which reads MSOffice 
files(Abiword,OOo), or making software which interoperates with MS 
machines in a file sharing network(Samba).

1. But the general idea of problems of this nature is - that if you dont 
like the policies of the company who creates this technology in the 
first place - dont buy it. Nobody is forcing you to do so!

2. On the other hand, people have strong opinions on the very terms 
under which this technology is given and find it "unfairly" restrictive.

It is a gray area, and a persons opinion varies according to where he 
prefers drawing a line between these two arguments.

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

[Viksit Gaur]

Hmm.. 

Just some thoughts..

I'm totally with the "Freedom to create and
distribute" tag. But, what if you think from the
corporate viewpoint?

Suppose my company (i dont work for any, btw :) has
spent a million bucks in developing and promoting a
technology,  would I like it if someone was to develop
something which circumvents my security measures and
possibly eat into or even trivialize my profits?

As the management in charge of the company, I might
*personally* appreciate original work being done by
hackers and the community in general, but officially?
Arent they just a pain which i'd want to counter ASAP?


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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

[Sandip Bhattacharya]

Raj Mathur wrote:
sdg> I don't seem to understand what Apple really wants - on one
sdg> hand it leaves open gaping holes in its DRM scheme[1] - and
Gaping holes? Apple should be credited with giving the least restricted 
DRM scheme possible for providing content! They are probably the most 
permissive of all online music players.

Please dont forget that the main problem is not Apple but the Music 
Industry which will kill this (ITunes) project if they see their music 
is not being protected adequately.

Not that I am trying to oppose this project - I agree that this project 
is essential for the use of fair use. If I buy music - I should own it 
and should have the right to use it in any way for my personal use.

Even though I think judges will take a dim view of our idea of fair use. 
Conventional market logic (which judges rely on for these cases) says 
that if you dont agree with Apple's terms - go buy your own music from 
the music shops.

But my biggest grouse with ITunes is that there is no Linux client - 
maybe that is a good point to support projects like Fairplay? That sure 
is mine.

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

[Sudev Barar]

On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 09:18, Raj Mathur wrote:
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> > "sdg" == Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> sdg> Hey, Looks like Apple has unleashed it's lawyers upon
> sdg> sarovar.org for hosting fairplay.
> sdg> http://sarovar.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=474
> 
> No, I don't agree with the project being taken down.  Enough
> arm-twisting by corporates who want to protect their ``Intellectual
> Property'' by killing innovation and the individual hacker (not
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Re: [ilugd] Gentoo Installation

[Vijay Thakur]

Dear Bhaskar,
 
I am use celeron,mercury 810e motherboard with 40 gb hdd and 128 RAM. I am getting 
error : /proc/splash file or directory not found (not as mentioned earlier. I will try 
as you told me.  Is there is not fui based installation of gentoo like red hat, fedora 
core or caldera... mail me your cell number.
 
vijay thakur
 


Bhaskar Dutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> On Friday 16 Apr 2004 5:43 pm, VT said:
VT>
VT> Dear Friends,
VT>
VT>
VT>
VT> I am using R.H.9, Fedora Core 1, PCQlinux 2004 from Last onet year. 
I want to install the Gentoo Os. After booting from the CD of Gentoo I am
getting a error on that /proc/splashimage file not found. After that the
installation process stopped. Tell me the solution so i can install the
Linux flavour. The version of Gentoo is 1.4. VT>


[please avoid hijacking threads in future]


you are possibly having a hardware incompatibility problem. what motherboard 
are you using?

from the gentoo livecd, boot the kernel without framebuffer support (you 
should see a boot option which says "nofb" or "no framebuffer"). basically 
what it does is remove the vga and splash params from the kernel. 

you should then be able to continue the installation process.


regards
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[ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple

[Raj Mathur]

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sdg> Hey, Looks like Apple has unleashed it's lawyers upon
sdg> sarovar.org for hosting fairplay.
sdg> http://sarovar.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=474

No, I don't agree with the project being taken down.  Enough
arm-twisting by corporates who want to protect their ``Intellectual
Property'' by killing innovation and the individual hacker (not
cracker!).  If the project is taken down it will create a bad
precedent in India, which will eventually lead to DMCA, PATRIOT and
similar restrictions being placed on Indian developers without anyone
having raised his/her voice against it.

Sarovar, CVR, etc, please fight this case.  And to put my money where
my mouth is, I'm putting in Rs. 1000 to help you get a lawyer.  I'm
also forwarding this message to more lists and requesting people to
come up and help defray your legal costs.

Please set up some sort legal fund and fight!

Regards,

- -- Raju

sdg> I don't seem to understand what Apple really wants - on one
sdg> hand it leaves open gaping holes in its DRM scheme[1] - and
sdg> on the other hand, it goes after programmes designed to
sdg> decode it's protected AAC file into MP3s. Seriously - you
sdg> don't need Fairplay to convert the AAC files into MP3s/Oggs.

sdg> -sdg-

sdg> [1]
sdg> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=104270&cid=8881865

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[ilugd] [HUMOUR] A web server with depression?

[Sandip Bhattacharya]

http://forum.pinkgoblin.com/viewtopic.php?p=325#325

:)

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[ilugd] CD distribution at April Meet

[Tarun Dua]

Hi All,

Linux Delhi Monthly meetings provide an ideal setting for
exchanging/distributing CDs at reasonable prices. 

Latest distributions of Fedora, Debian, Mandrake etc and bootable desktop
distributions like Knoppix are in great demand. 
Also specialized distributions like iMoviex, Dynebolic, FireCD etc
can be popularized at the meet.

Lets distribute Free Software 
(they should teach sharing software is good in schools and not otherwise)
People requiring CDs should write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to seek 
CDs of their choice to be delivered at the Linux Delhi Meets.

Just a thought to encourage budding entrepreneurs.

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[ilugd] ILUG-D activity in last 7 days

[nkapoor]

Fri 16-Apr-2004:: ILUG-D activity in last 7 days:
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New events:2   Total events:24
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What:ILUG-Delhi pre-flashmob supercomputer meet
When:Sun, Apr 11, 2004 - 01:00PM
Where:BB/3G DDA Flats, Munirka
Contact:Raju Mathur
Category:Upcoming/Recent Events

Discuss whether supercomputer is feasible.
Finalise resource requirements.
Allocate work :)

Directions:   1. Come to Outer Ring Road upto IIT or Vasant Vihar
  2. If coming from IIT, cross Africa Avenue (right-hand T junction)
  3. Turn left at 3rd T junction after that.  Landmark:Udipi resturant. 
You are on Street B, Munirka. Goto 6.
  4. If coming from Vasant Vihar side, cross Vasant Vihar bus depot. Cross 
next T junction (which leads to R K Puram Sector I on the left).
  5. Turn right at next T junction. Landmark: Udipi resturant. You are on 
Street B, Munirka.
  6. (COMMON) Turn left on second street to the left.  You are on Street 
BB.
  7. Climb up to III floor of 3rd block of houses on your left (Block 
BB/3).
  8. Ring bell/knock on door to the left of the stair head.  Give password 
``Raju ban gaya politician'' otherwise you'll be assumed to be an officer of the law 
and shot out of hand

What:ILUGD April meeting ILUGD - Debian, Localization and Desktop related Discussions.
When:Sun, Apr 18, 2004 - 02:00PM
Where:Electronics For You: Training Centre
Contact:Tarun Dua
Category:Upcoming/Recent Events

What: ILUGD April 2004 monthly meeting 
Debian, Localization and Desktop related Discussions. 
 
When: Sunday, 18th April 2004, 14:00 hrs - 19:00 hrs 
 
Where:  
Electronics For You: Training Centre 
D-88/5, Okhla Indl Area 
Phase-1 
New Delhi-20. 
(Training room is on the first floor) 
 
Directions: 
* Come to Kalkaji Mandir crossing (near Balaji estate) 
* Assuming you are coming from Nehru Place, turn right towards Okhla (those coming 
from Escorts' side will have to turn left) 
* Continue down this road for several kilometers* You will reach a circle...continue 
ahead 
* Airtel HQ will come on the left...good...keep going 
* DD Motor's building will come...turn left from there 
* You are on your own now. Seek directions from natives in this area or Call Mayank  
;-) 
 
Program: 
 
The following speakers have volunteered to talk 
1. Raj (which one?) : A talk on introduction to Linux, GNU and Free Software 
Philosophy 
2. Ritesh Raj Sarraf : Debian philosophy,latest developments and key features 
3. Sirtaj Singh K(de)ang : KDE tips
4. Nirendra Awasthi : Localization 
5. Ankur Rohtangi : Cool Desktop Stuff Demo

Order of speakers can be changed
Contact:  
Mayank Sharma : 9868449583...

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New Discussion forum postings:6   Total postings:86
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1. Category:Job Openings  Author:Aditya Chopra
Subject:Resource requirement in embedded systems:
Date:Apr 10, 2004
Resource requirement in embedded systems: 
Full time / contractual

Education: B.E./B.Tech or MCA.
Experience: At least 5 ye...

2. Category:Distributions  Author:Mayank Jain
Subject:RE:Mandrake Community edition 10.0 required
Date:Apr 11, 2004
hi there,
i think i can help you. I'll be getting Mandrake10 in 2 days. Please contact me on my 
mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...

3. Category:Upcoming/Recent Events  Author:Mayank Jain
Subject:RE:delhi meeting
Date:Apr 11, 2004
hi gaurav
the next meeting is on 3rd Sunday of April --> 18th April 2004 (i guess). So be ready 
& the theme this time is Debian...

4. Category:Getting Started  Author:Mayank Jain
Subject:RE:RE:Need Knoppix of similar in Delhi Urgent
Date:Apr 11, 2004
hi there,
i have latest ---> Knoppix3.3 & ClusterKnoppix3.3
So if u havn't got ur cd or want to upgrade to Knoppix3.3 just gim...

5. Category:Networking  Author:Pushkar Bhatkoti
Subject:Kind attention all Network/ Cisco router Experts
Date:Apr 14, 2004
The common problem we usually face is the routers image is currept or other image is 
not available. than u need to go to cisco t...

6. Category:Installation  Author:Shankar 
Subject:RE:Installation Of D-Link Internal Modem DFM 5601S+++
Date:Apr 16, 2004
After loging in as root /root user privileges load the RPM PACKAGE from the driver cd 
provided.then configure kppp
 dev modem w...

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1. Category:Job Openings  Author:Aditya Chopra
Subject:Job Opening: Resource requirement in embedded systems:
Date:Apr 10, 2004
Resource requirement in embedded systems: 
Full time / contractual 
 
Education: B.E./B.Tech or MCA.
 
Experience: At least 5 years with atleast 2 years in embedded systems.
 
Required Working(Project) Experiences :
- Required experiences of Embedded Linux O

Re: [ilugd] Esetroot in a cron job???

[Rishabh Manocha]

Hi and thanks for the reply.
I have issued xhost + on my machine(i am on a single user machine).However
i cannot know if it will work until the hour passes by.I will keep you
updated.
I had another question.Right now it seems like everytime i start X i will
have to do xhost + for the script to work.Is there some file where i can
put the X server access settings.I googled around but all answers i found
were either for KDM,GDM or XDM.I dont use either of these.I use starts to
start my session.
The man pages for xhost say to check /etc/X*.hosts however i could not
find ne such file in /etc and nor did i find nething much in google.
Could someone maybe tell me how to go about this.
Also i have no ides how to have my own crontab but i will look around for
that.
Thanks a lot
--Rishabh

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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Bhaskar Dutta wrote:

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>   >>> On Friday 16 April 2004 09:47, RM  said:
> RM> Hey guys,
> RM> I use Esetroot to set the background for my Desktop.I use openbox as
>  my RM> window manager on a debian sid 2.6.4.
> RM> I wrote a small perl script to change my
> RM> background(www.cs.utexas.edu/users/rmanocha/projects/change_desk.pl).
> RM> My main aim behind writing this script was to put it into a cron job
>  so RM> that my desktop background can change every hour without me having to
>  RM> fiddle with it.
> RM> However the cron job does not work.It exits with this error:
> RM> /etc/cron.hourly/change_desk:
> RM> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> RM> Xlib: Protocol not supported by server
> RM>
> RM> Esetroot:  Unable to open display :0.0
> RM>
> RM> This script works just fine when i execute it from a terminal.The
> RM> permissions on other scripts and this script in the directory is:
> RM> -rwx--1 rmanocha rmanocha   80 Apr 15 01:19 change_desk
> RM> -rwx--1 rmanocha rmanocha  300 Mar 11 14:19 hmailscript
> RM> the second script works just fine for me and so i am wondering why
>  this RM> script is not working.Is it because the script is executes an
>  another RM> user(thought not likely since no one else has execute
>  permissions on the RM> script).
>
> your X server doesnt allow user 'rmanocha' to make direct connections to it.
> thats because access control is enabled on your box. check the output of
> `xhost`. should give something like:
> access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect.
> and, you are not authorised (the script is owned by user rmanocha, who is
> probably not on the authorized user's list). check `man xhost` and do the
> needful.
>
> cron is running as root, and it will never let any script owned by an
> unauthorized user  to make direct x connections. thats considered dangerous.
> as ams pointed out, put it in your own crontab. or add yourself to xhost (i
> would probably do the latter if i am on a single user system).
>
> regards,
> bhaskar
>
> p.s. your script uses Esetroot without the `-d` param. i dunno what
> consequences it might have. do test it for multi-user environments also.
>
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Re: [LIH]Re: [ilugd] Single port diff IPs

[Yashpal Nagar]

Binand Sethumadhavan wrote:

Ah... I have used this Redir long, long ago, before I discovered
Iptables. I had even patched it to add a lot of features like
multiple redirections per invocation, a configuration file to read the
redirections from, a daemon mode (and for completeness, an inetd mode
too), an init script, an RPM etc. This is the URL from my bookmarks -
http://oh.verio.com/~sammy/hacks/ Seems to me it is currently available
at http://sammy.net/~sammy/hacks/
Unfortunately, I didn't behave like a good open sourcer, so the above
changes rotted in my personal CVS server :(
 

PS: we have two locations , A & B Now B is a VPN port which is not 
exposed to Real IP world, It can only reach to our Real IP Pool at A.
So i was just wondering how the ppl at B location can be routed to 
citrix servers of Online world.
   

1. You can use iptables DNAT.
2. You can use xinetd port redirection.
3. You can use redir, as above.
4. You can assign a "real" IP to the machine at B and do some fancy routing.
5. You can invest in a firewall box like a Cisco PIX or a Netscreen.
Binand

 

Hmm

Just downloaded & compiled, seemed to be good stuff for persons like me.
Will try & take your kind help if any problem :)
Thanks for great help,

Thats Freedom & Linux!!!

Regards,
Yash


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Re: [ilugd] Re: Linux on laptop experience of a newbie (was) Re: ILUGD April 2004 Meeting

[Viksit Gaur]

Hmm .. saw this a bit late.

Isntt the very fact the FSF wants you to use
"GNU/Linux" and not "Linux", indicative of the control
they wish to excercise over our freedom to choose?

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Re: [ilugd] Gentoo Installation

[Bhaskar Dutta]

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  >>> On Friday 16 Apr 2004 5:43 pm, VT  said:
VT>
VT> Dear Friends,
VT>
VT>
VT>
VT> I am using R.H.9, Fedora Core 1, PCQlinux 2004 from Last onet year. 
 I want to install the Gentoo Os. After booting from the CD of Gentoo I am
 getting a error on that /proc/splashimage file not found.  After that the
 installation process stopped. Tell me the solution so i can install the
 Linux flavour. The version of Gentoo is 1.4. VT>


[please avoid hijacking threads in future]


you are possibly having a hardware incompatibility problem. what motherboard 
are you using?

from the gentoo livecd, boot the kernel without framebuffer support (you 
should see a boot option which says "nofb" or "no framebuffer"). basically 
what it does is remove the vga and splash params from the kernel. 

you should then be able to continue the installation process.


regards
bhaskar

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[ilugd] Re: ILUGD April 2004 Meeting

[Tarun Dua]

Tarun Dua wrote:
> The following speakers have volunteered to talk
> 1. Raj (which one?) : A talk on introduction to Linux, GNU and Free
> Software Philosophy
> 2. Vivek Khurana (Debian)
> 3. Ritesh Raj Sarraf : Debian philosophy,latest developments and key
> features
> 4. Nirendra Awasthi : Localization

Adding to the speakers list.
5. Ankur Rohtangi: Linux on Laptop and other tricks
6. Sirtaj Singh K(de)ang : KDE Tips

Vivek alarmed by me changing his topic too often (/me *g,d & r* )  has
decided not speak or move into standby speakers. In any case he is bringing 
in the T-Shirts. 

So Ritesh is free to add any differences between Redhat/Fedora and Debian
into his talk now.

-Tarun


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[ilugd] Gentoo Installation

[Vijay Thakur]

Dear Friends,

 

I am using R.H.9, Fedora Core 1, PCQlinux 2004 from Last onet year.  I want to install 
the Gentoo Os. After booting from the CD of Gentoo I am getting a error on that 
/proc/splashimage file not found.  After that the installation process stopped. Tell 
me the solution so i can install the Linux flavour. The version of Gentoo is 1.4.

Vijay Thakur,Chandigarh

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Re: [ilugd] Esetroot in a cron job???

[Bhaskar Dutta]

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  >>> On Friday 16 April 2004 09:47, RM  said:
RM> Hey guys,
RM> I use Esetroot to set the background for my Desktop.I use openbox as
 my RM> window manager on a debian sid 2.6.4.
RM> I wrote a small perl script to change my
RM> background(www.cs.utexas.edu/users/rmanocha/projects/change_desk.pl).
RM> My main aim behind writing this script was to put it into a cron job
 so RM> that my desktop background can change every hour without me having to
 RM> fiddle with it.
RM> However the cron job does not work.It exits with this error:
RM> /etc/cron.hourly/change_desk:
RM> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
RM> Xlib: Protocol not supported by server
RM>
RM> Esetroot:  Unable to open display :0.0
RM>
RM> This script works just fine when i execute it from a terminal.The
RM> permissions on other scripts and this script in the directory is:
RM> -rwx--1 rmanocha rmanocha   80 Apr 15 01:19 change_desk
RM> -rwx--1 rmanocha rmanocha  300 Mar 11 14:19 hmailscript
RM> the second script works just fine for me and so i am wondering why
 this RM> script is not working.Is it because the script is executes an
 another RM> user(thought not likely since no one else has execute
 permissions on the RM> script).

your X server doesnt allow user 'rmanocha' to make direct connections to it.
thats because access control is enabled on your box. check the output of
`xhost`. should give something like:
access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect.
and, you are not authorised (the script is owned by user rmanocha, who is
probably not on the authorized user's list). check `man xhost` and do the
needful.

cron is running as root, and it will never let any script owned by an
unauthorized user  to make direct x connections. thats considered dangerous.
as ams pointed out, put it in your own crontab. or add yourself to xhost (i
would probably do the latter if i am on a single user system).

regards,
bhaskar

p.s. your script uses Esetroot without the `-d` param. i dunno what
consequences it might have. do test it for multi-user environments also.

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Re: [ilugd] Single port diff IPs

[Yashpal Nagar]

Sanjeev "Ghane" Gupta wrote:

Yashpal Nagar wrote:
 

Dear Linux fans,

I have a peculiar requirement, i want different-different IPs(binded
to same interface) to forward ica connections to different-different
hosts. :) 

let me write it more clear. e.g

192.168.168.1 ---> port 1494 -> Real IP host 1
192.168.168.2 ---> port 1494 -> Real IP host 2
192.168.168.3 ---> port 1494 -> Real IP host 3
All the IPs 192.168.168.1 , 192.168.168.2 & 192.168.168.3 are binded
to same interface card
as eth0, eth0:1 & eth0:2
This port forwarding i am doing by xinetd through redirect rule.
Can i build xinetd fwding rules on per IP basis with same port , how?
   

Use "redir", it can bind to a particular address

   redir --laddr 192.168.168.1 --lport 1494 --caddr RealIP1 --cport 1494 

What are you trying to do?

 

Sir, Don't forget you are telling your solution to an electrician, :) I 
would appreciate if your could elaborate more.
where to use this redir...what it is ..your solution seemes to be 
*discovery* for me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# man redir
No manual entry for redir
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
man xinetd.conf
nothing related to redir.
Regards,
-Yash
PS: we have two locations , A & B Now B is a VPN port which is not 
exposed to Real IP world, It can only reach to our Real IP Pool at A.
So i was just wondering how the ppl at B location can be routed to 
citrix servers of Online world.

--
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[ilugd] about Gmail

[Pankaj Kaushal]

Since announcing Gmail two weeks ago, Google Inc. has been forced to 
defend the planned Web-based e-mail service against accusations that it 
may violate users' privacy. In the face of the criticism, Google has 
begun to express a willingness to be flexible about how it offers the 
service.

full story.
http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/privacy/story/0,10801,92279,00.html
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students that have had prior exposure to BASIC: as potential
programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.
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