Re: [ilugd] debian linux cds i am totally confused
The 8 cd's encompass all the packages debian has to offer.In most cases you wont need all that.For a base install all you need is CD1.If you want a GUI install aftre that then you need CD2.The rest can all be done using apt. So my suggestion.download(or burn if u have already downloaded) only CD1 and 2 and then use apt to get to the rest of the stuff u need. My 2 cents. --Rishabh -- Rishabh Manocha http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/rmanocha **Your Quote for the day** `When you say I wrote a program that crashed Windows, people just stare at you blankly and say Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*.' (By Linus Torvalds) ** On Sun, 18 Apr 2004, [iso-8859-1] Surendra Verma wrote: Hi, I downloaded the Debian Linux 3.02 but i am totally confused as to why there are so many cds there (totalling 8 as compared to generally 3 in others). Is it becuase that it has a lot more packages there or is it because the source code is included in it.the site http://www.debian.org seems to br blank on this issue too. If anybody is using it please clarify which are the cds i need to write(i dont need the source code). Regards. = Surendra Verma, WD-22,Shivalik House, IIT Delhi, New Delhi-110016, India. ph -11-26527315 Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] debian linux cds i am totally confused
hi Rishabh, thanks for your support. bbye. = Surendra Verma, WD-22,Shivalik House, IIT Delhi, New Delhi-110016, India. ph -11-26527315 Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: [Fsf-friends] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple
[4/18/2004 2:49 AM] Anand Babu : I want to understand more about the legal issues. 1) Hosting at savannah.gnu.org. What issues do we have? Hosted in the USA? You'd have DMCA / Patriot issues 3) Hosting under FSF India? Right now, the indian copyright act is being cited. And I must point out that copyright law is almost the same in all countries (including India and the USA) that are signatories to the Berne Convention. 4) What legal implications I will face, If I contribute to this project while I am in the US? Please ask a competent lawyer. Maybe Eben Moglen, as he is counsel for gnu.org 5) Decoding may be, but Coding is not a crime. It doesn't matter if I am in US or India. You may be right, but in practice, that is a matter for lawyers to interpret and courts to decide. regards -srs ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] only one reason
I use WinXP only for one reason, downloading huge files which weigh more than, say, 100MB. I have switched over to OOo from MS Office, switched over to Firebird from IE, switched over to Tunderbird from OE ( i'm which step, LL ), thats only when I work in WinXP (I most of the time work in gnulinux). I just need a good download manager for linux. I had a very bad experience with d4x, so won't try in again. I liked the command-line managers, proz and wget. But can I rely on them for huge downloads. and are there any GUI's for wget and proz. regards, vijay. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] only one reason
are there any GUI's for wget and proz. don't know about wget, but prozgui is there afaik. And yes, they can be used for downloading huge files too. I've downloaded full distros using wget. And proz supports downloading from multiple sites too, so its even better. gftp works too as an ftp client. HTH Sharninder mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] only one reason
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:18:13 +0530, Sandeep Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:43, R.Vijayaraghavan wrote: I just need a good download manager for linux. I had a very bad experience with d4x, so won't try in again. I liked the command-line managers, proz and wget. But can I rely on them for huge downloads. and are there any GUI's for wget and proz. Don't know why you've had bad experience with d4x. I use it and have downloaded full distros without any problem. Anyway, kwebget is a frontend for wget. the progress bar came near the 80% mark and suddenly, d4x got stuck. i waited for 20 mins, then had to kill it. tried to restart it, and wow, it never woke up. those were 7.3 days and from that day, never tried to download a file in linux. that was a 280 MB, i guess. --- Sandeep regards, vijay. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] want to check my password and login
hello, I sunny arora just wanted to confirm my login ID and password login- sunjasswa password - r5i2s1y7 if it is correct , please mailback to me . i will be highly obliged . Thanking you sunny Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] want to check my password and login
dear frnd i think you are sendding this information to the whole group. now this info has been shared plz change yuor passwod right now any querry regarding uid and passwd must be asked to the admin only thanks mukesh __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] At Last we got our T-Shirts!!!
At Last we got our ILUG-D 'T'-Shirts. Thanks a ton to Vivek... BR, GSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] At Last we got our T-Shirts!!!
dear frnd i hav not got my t-shirt upto now can you help me now thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source Software:-
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 07:08, Arun Kumar.A,delhi wrote: Hi all, Can anyone provide a single session lecture on Open Source Software.This is for a few group. Kindly advice. regards, ARUN KUMAR.A i can bark on it for a couple of hours before my throat is slaked. what do you want? what audience? what topic? where? :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] only one reason
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:43, R.Vijayaraghavan wrote: I use WinXP only for one reason, downloading huge files which weigh more than, say, 100MB. I have switched over to OOo from MS Office, switched over to Firebird from IE, switched over to Tunderbird from OE ( i'm which step, LL ), thats only when I work in WinXP (I most of the time work in gnulinux). Step I of seven steps to software samadhi. :-) I just need a good download manager for linux. i noticed the download manager of mozilla is pretty good though. i haven't tried it under windoze since don't use windoze anymore. and that's pretty scary sometimes. i mean, can you imagine, people think i'm some computer guy, until i start fumbling with their windoze pc like some clueless idiot these days. :-) i'd rather be a clueless idiot on other people's windoze, than a well-informed digital slave with basic, digital rights relinquished. LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] only one reason
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 17:08, R.Vijayaraghavan wrote: the progress bar came near the 80% mark and suddenly, d4x got stuck. i waited for 20 mins, then had to kill it. tried to restart it, and wow, it never woke up. those were 7.3 days and from that day, never tried to download a file in linux. that was a 280 MB, i guess. h! so you wanna do a download under linux. assuming its some software, everybody on the list here can tell you to use apt-get or sudev can recommend synaptic, and that'll solve most other problems too :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] only one reason
hi, there is a downloader manager program in kde and many would be familiar with it with many advanced features.i am using kdenetwork-kget for downloading and have downloaded files as big as 700 mbs with it. but the only problem is that it works only with konqueror browser and not with other browesrs. Regards. = Surendra Verma, WD-22,Shivalik House, IIT Delhi, New Delhi-110016, India. ph -11-26527315 Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] april ilug-d meet
twelve hot chocolate fudges at nirula's ice-cream parlour. sirtaj, the famous KDE developer, had two. all this after a delicious chinese dinner at Yo! China at Priya Complex, in vasant vihar. which was what the partying gang at linux-delhi headed to, after hungrily devouring some hot and spicy momos at the open-air stall outside, at the promenade. mayank and the LFY team had also organized chilled Cokes for the parched iluggers at the meet in okhla. i think more than 35 showed up for the meet. many got their Linux-Delhi tee-shirts. yeaah! ankur dazzled everyone with his super-sleek, super-sexy Dell laptop. raj mathur had some eye-candy on his laptop too, that was rather inspiring in the lazy, afternoon heat... and i won't even mention the eye-candy sandip savoured at nirula's... so why did you miss the meet? you thought we were some born-losers who had nothing better to do than talk bone-cut dry geek yack? you're mistaken! we've been having some really juicy, clubby, kick-ass meets that are great excuses to party. and the newbies especially love the burst of energy, enthusiasm, and bonding they receive from delhi's LUGers. example: anindya sen, arrived in delhi about six months ago from calcutta. new, bewildering city. new job. drops in at the ilug-d meet today, and drops home by late evening, after having made dozens of new friends and contacts, with similar outlooks and tastes. see you next month, 16th May, unless you wanna spend another sunday, sitting bored at home, watching lousy reruns on telly or hiding eternally behind that photon-spitting monitor. :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Download managers in Linux (was) Re: [ilugd] only one reason
Surendra Verma wrote: there is a downloader manager program in kde and many would be familiar with it with many advanced features.i am using kdenetwork-kget for downloading and have downloaded files as big as 700 mbs with it. but the only problem is that it works only with konqueror browser and not with other browesrs. Arre nahi! I use kget without konqueror(I prefer Firefox). In KDE just execute the command kget. You would see a window opening in which you can paste your URLs and they will be downloaded as you want. The best thing about kget is that if you minimize it, it appears in the system tray. So whenever, you want to download a link, copy the URL into clipboard from Firebird(or any other browser), click the kget icon in the tray, and in the kget window which appears, simply paste the URL! kget uses KDE's session management, and thus if you shutdown/logoff from KDE when kget in running, it is automatically restarted for you when you log back in! So there you are - you have got a download manager always available in the tray! If there are multiple downloads happening, you can double click a download in the Kget window. You will get a separate dialog for that particular download. You can minimize this to have a progress indicator for that download right in the tray itself, just like individual getright download windows. And yes, I frequently download big files ( 100MB) using kget. It supports resuming, scheduling etc. The only thing which it doesnt support is multi-part downloads. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Waiting for response......(FS got corrupted)
Hi Avi Firstly, thanks a bunch for your reply. But I am sorry man, I have already done a reinstall. You may imagine hanging on a shell that does nothing good, for 2 days. Anyways, thanks for the suggestion. If unfortunately the situation arises again, I'll surely give your suggestion a shot. Thanks and regards. Sumit Avinesh Bangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, To know the alternate block number I ran following command: mke2fs -n /dev/hda9 Superblocks are located every 8K+1, starting at 1. So you have superblocks at 8193, 16385, etc. I have tried rescue mode and used alternative superblock to run: e2fsck -b 32564 /dev/hda9 It does checks and asks for fixing the block. I say yes and then reboot. However, the Boot process stucks at Starting System Logger. I press Ctrl+Alt+Del and system reboots. But again it I came across a similar issue on a firewall running EXT2 that had been shutdown incorrectly. I initially ran `e2fsck -b 16385 /dev/hda9` and then ran `e2fsck -vy /dev/hda9` a couple times to ensure all was well. It's probably a good idea to check your other file systems for corruption while your at it. You can view a list of all your partitions by typing the following: `fdisk -l` Hope that helps. Regards, Avinesh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] KDE+GNOME+Enlightenment+TWM
dear all, remember reading a few daze ago, about what commands and configurations to alter, so i can have KDE on F7, gnome on F8, and other desktop logins on other keys. been thru gmane archives, thru google, but can't seem to locate that reference. not in my mozilla bookmarks either. anybody knows/can point me, to how to achieve this? ?? LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source Software:-
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 07:08, Arun Kumar.A,delhi wrote: Hi all, Can anyone provide a single session lecture on Open Source Software.This is for a few group. Kindly advice. regards, ARUN KUMAR.A Arun Can you be more specific? You want a lecture on opensource philosophy or a demo of Linux system or??? Latter and case study of our company's switch to Linux with QA can be done. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] KDE+GNOME+Enlightenment+TWM
LL == linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LL dear all, remember reading a few daze ago, about what commands LL and configurations to alter, so i can have KDE on F7, gnome on LL F8, and other desktop logins on other keys. You need to enable GDM (or whatever Display Manager you're using) on multiple X sessions. Then you can start one X session with KDE, another with Gnome, etc. For gdm, edit /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and uncomment the line near the bottom that reads: #1=Standard service gdm restart and you're done -- you have GDM logins on ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8. I presume that I don't have to detail how to start a KDE login session or a Gnome login session by clicking on the Session button and selecting the appropriate session type :) BTW, this is generally replicable, so if you want more sessions add more lines of the form 2=Standard, 3=Standard, etc. LL [snip] Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Fedora Problems...
Hi, I am a newbie in Linux. I am using Fedora Core at Home. Sound Card is not working in Linux. I have dual booted my pc with XP. Its working fine in Win XP. The output of proc file is: Bus 0, Device 8, Function 0: Multimedia Audio Controller : Aurial Semiconductor Vortex2 ( Rev 250) IRQ 10 Master Capable: Legancy =64 , Min Count=4, Max Count=12 Not Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xea8.. i/o at ... i/o at.. After looking at this output it seems Linux is able to detect my sound card. But during shutdown following error comes: Saving Mixer Setting Modprobe : modprobe : can't locate module at Sound Slot-0 Aumix : error opening mixer One more problem I am facing after upgrading Linux 7.3 to Fedora Core is that Serial mouse in my pc is not working. Pls help me resolve this issue. Thanks in advance. Thanks and Regards Vineet Arora Customer Support Engineer Computerware (India) Pvt. Ltd. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple
Viksit Gaur wrote: Hmm.. Just some thoughts.. Suppose my company (i dont work for any, btw :) has spent a million bucks in developing and promoting a technology, would I like it if someone was to develop something which circumvents my security measures and possibly eat into or even trivialize my profits? Suppose you have a million bucks to spend you might want to put that money into developing a security scheme which is not so trival to break. Plus The hacker is doing you a favor by breaking your scheme and showing possible flaws in your software, If as a company you decide to look at it as a flaw. As the management in charge of the company, I might *personally* appreciate original work being done by hackers and the community in general, but officially? Arent they just a pain which i'd want to counter ASAP? I think If I pay for something I should be allow to use It on a platform of my choice. These laws are like, I will sell you 2 apples (excuse the pun ;) but you can only peel them with Dingo(TM) peelers and then eat. I will sue you if you try to eat 'em raw or use Pingo peelers to peel them. -- It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students that have had prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] april ilug-d meet
twelve hot chocolate fudges at nirula's ice-cream parlour. sirtaj, the famous KDE developer, had two. all this after a delicious chinese dinner at Yo! China at Priya Complex, in vasant vihar. which was what the partying gang at linux-delhi headed to, after hungrily devouring some hot and spicy momos at the open-air stall outside, at the promenade. mayank and the LFY team had also organized chilled Cokes for the parched iluggers at the meet in okhla. i think more than 35 showed up for the meet. many got their Linux-Delhi tee-shirts. yeaah! ankur dazzled everyone with his super-sleek, super-sexy Dell laptop. raj mathur had some eye-candy on his laptop too, that was rather inspiring in the lazy, afternoon heat... and i won't even mention the eye-candy sandip savoured at nirula's... so why did you miss the meet? you thought we were some born-losers who had nothing better to do than talk bone-cut dry geek yack? you're mistaken! we've been having some really juicy, clubby, kick-ass meets that are great excuses to party. and the newbies especially love the burst of energy, enthusiasm, and bonding they receive from delhi's LUGers. example: anindya sen, arrived in delhi about six months ago from calcutta. new, bewildering city. new job. drops in at the ilug-d meet today, and drops home by late evening, after having made dozens of new friends and contacts, with similar outlooks and tastes. see you next month, 16th May, unless you wanna spend another sunday, sitting bored at home, watching lousy reruns on telly or hiding eternally behind that photon-spitting monitor. DAMN - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple
I think If I pay for something I should be allow to use It on a platform of my choice. These laws are like, I will sell you 2 apples (excuse the pun ;) but you can only peel them with Dingo(TM) peelers and then eat. I will sue you if you try to eat 'em raw or use Pingo peelers to peel them. What if this apple was Copied[cloned]... (can it really be done ?) and peeled with Pingo, ro Gingo, or Mingo ? Do u like it ? or the Company will like it ? If i was the Mgmt guy who sold u the apple... I will try to buy Gingo, Mingo and all Peelers.If i cantsure i sue them[Still i cant i will Supari them]. I again repeat the words which i hv said earlier in this listBusiness is War and i will use all means to win in it, Fair or unfair...[This is why i never own a business :)] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
