Re: [ilugd] WiFi between two laptops
Whats the difference between an 802.11b adapter an access point? The 802.11b adapter is a wireless LAN card and an access point is the wireless equivalent of a switch. Best regards, Vikram Ranade ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Question about the ILUGD society
On Monday 26 Sep 2005 11:14 am, Saurabh Nanda wrote: Is the registration country-wide? It's strange that, before us, there wasn't a society called Linux User's Group all througout India. AFAIK a society can only be registered in a particular registration sub district. If you want countrywide you must register as a section 25 company -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] WiFi between two laptops
On 9/26/05, vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats the difference between an 802.11b adapter an access point? The 802.11b adapter is a wireless LAN card and an access point is the wireless equivalent of a switch. cost wise? Which one would make for a more logical choice? All i need is a connection between my laptop's wifi interface my PC so as i can do natting or use my PC as a proxy. ...both cost wise otherwise, i suppose an adapter shoud do? As i dont want any more devices to be connected in the network... just my pc my laptop. -- regards, makuchaku --- http://makuchaku.info When you speak out with the courage of your convictions, people listen! -- Valmik Thapar, Wildlife Conservationist. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] [LIH]WiFi between two laptops
On 9/26/05, vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sudevji, I assume that you are using ubuntu.I have ubuntu on my notebook and the [SNIP] Thanks Vikram for step by step. Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
[ilugd] No Community in the Licenses - digression from Where is the Community
Hi This is regarding the digressed thread of Where is the Community and the many different elements of disucssion. Here are some replies Ram wrote : Call is social responsibility, call it a *request from the community* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Sounds more like dictating a social *duty*. with rights there are responsibilities or duties. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote So what is this antagonism towards people making money or people with wealth who are using this software? Why do we care? As long as the community keeps getting better and better over time, we have accomplished what we have to. When you use words like responsibility or giving back, you *are* talking about strings attached to using Free software. If there are such strings, put them in the damn licence, otherwise nobody has the right to interpret the licence or its spirit, whether they are Free or closed source software Thanks , I will remember that the various open source / free software licenses (GPL ASF etc) does not say anything about *any community* hence there are no expectations from the community or its members hence no *duties*. And won't interpret more than what the license of any free / libre software gives / allows. And When I do have the opportunity to release software under a Free Software License will remember to incorporate some aspects of community. So what is this antagonism towards people making money or people with wealth who are using this software? Why do we care? As long as the community keeps getting better and better over time, we have accomplished what we have to. Raj Mathur Wrote I agree with Sandip: making money from FOSS is perfectly legitimate (dammit, I do it myself!), and you cannot ask the user of a software for anything beyond what the software license enjoins him/her to do. No antagonism at all. This is what I said where the community is the large amorphous mass (whose collective resources base is large but individual resource base disparately distributed) and the corporate are the proprietory privateers (who have even larger private and unshared resources) whose sole motive is profit, wherever it may come from and *whatever the cost*. The key words are whatever the cost and that cost to me is freedom to choose my software and freedom to enable other to choose theirs. ams wrote: Now I'm confused. At 2005-09-24 12:39:26 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is that cliched statement of freedom - ones freedom ends when it begins to affect anothers [...] they are not (rather should not be) free to choose to *not contribute* Why not? And what are you saying they should contribute, exactly? And how do their decisions in this regard affect your own freedom? -- ams Contribute to enabling others to make the same free choices. It takes a kind of supportive enviroment to enable people to make a choice - so the beneficiaries of the free software movement community have a responsibility to make that opportunity available to others. Thats the contribution I am trying to highlight which appears in this copyleft statement. *copyleft (very simply stated) is the rule that when redistributing the program, you cannot add restrictions to deny other people the central freedoms.* http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html By not participating in creating that enabling environment is actually turning a blind eye to the issue of access to choice , access to free software and in this context freedom. I am not sure if freedom comes with out duty or responsibility. I question what kind of freedom it is that does not at the very least ask of its beneficiaries to make sure others get what they have got, that is freedom to ensure everyone has the same playing field . the same free state. As a consequence of this discussion I read some of the popular Free Software licenses none of them have anything to say about communities and contribunting back to the community. The closest to community license was this: Licensing Community Server There are 3 options for licensing Community Server: * Community license The Community license provides a free version of Community Server that can easily be upgraded to a commercial license. The Community license is perfect for non-profit or non-commercial applications. The Community license can be used in commercial applications as long as the license agreement is adhered to. The following are drawn from GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991 To protect your rights, we need to make restrictions that forbid anyone to deny you these rights or to ask you to surrender the rights. These restrictions translate to *certain responsibilities* for you if you distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it. The Free Software Foundation may publish revised and/or new versions of the General Public License from time to time. Such new versions will be similar *in spirit* to the
[ilugd] Slackware 10.2
hI aLL, I am looking for Slackware 10.2. I'm based in Noida and my office is in Sector 16. My number is 9312026470. Regards Sukrit -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
[ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
Hello, This is Nitin Gupta, one of Silent but active member of this Community. As i mentioned in the mails before, me and my company Xaprio Solutions is completely shifted to linux from a long time now. We are doing just fine, using FC4, but its very very slow. We are on P4 2.8GHZ with 256mb RAM, still it gets hung a number of times in a day. I wanted to know is there any better option for us then FC4? It should be easy as some of our team members are fairly new to it, but still Robust and Faster then FC4. Waiting for your answer. Kind Regards, Nitin Gupta CEO Xaprio Solutions http://www.xaprio.com/ http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ http://www.roadrashers.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
Hello, First of all thanks a lot for relying, were you present at the recently held freedel event? No I wasn't. Very nice of you , why dont you share about your experiences at the next meet. I would love to, but i haven't attended any meet before so not sure about it. |We are doing just fine, using FC4, but its very very slow. We are on P4 2.8GHZ with 256mb RAM, still it gets hung a number of times in a day. i presume you are using more than one PC ,does all the PC's show such behaviour. What do you mean by Hung, whats the error messages you get on the monitor , is there any specific event which make this said hung behaviour happen. By Hung means, very very slow. I am generally working on 3-4 applications simulatenously including Evolution, FireFox, BlueFish, Gaim and some other small softwares, which i think is retty normal. It works fine for the 60% of the day, but some times it goes real slow, specially while fetching emails via evolution. Another thing is that, i uses xampp on my local system and when 2 or more users access it simultaneously, the conditions gets worse :( if you mean fast by boot http://www.improvedsource.com/view.php/Linux-System/2/ Thanks for it, Which Linux distro u r on? -- Kind Regards, Nitin Gupta CEO Xaprio Solutions http://www.xaprio.com/ http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ http://www.roadrashers.com/ __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
At 2005-09-26 06:49:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am generally working on 3-4 applications simulatenously including Evolution, FireFox, BlueFish, Gaim and some other small softwares, which i think is retty normal. Get more RAM. -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
hmmm... More Ram, Do you guys think, shifting to Ubuntu or Slackware will do? Is this the problem with FC4 or with the applications i runs or just with the RAM ?? Thanks :) Regards, Nitin Gupta CEO Xaprio Solutions http://www.xaprio.com/ http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ http://www.roadrashers.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
nitin gupta wrote: hmmm... More Ram, Do you guys think, shifting to Ubuntu or Slackware will do? Is this the problem with FC4 or with the applications i runs or just with the RAM ?? I use ubuntu with 256 MB ram no probs. P. -- Alas, even today there's little worth thinking and saying that does not grievously wound the state, the gods, and common decency. -Goethe ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
--- Pankaj kaushal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use ubuntu with 256 MB ram no probs. Do you use heavy applications with it? Also, Will i be able to get all the packages for it? Regards, Nitin Gupta CEO Xaprio Solutions http://www.xaprio.com/ http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ http://www.roadrashers.com/ __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] WiFi between two laptops
--- vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats the difference between an 802.11b adapter an access point? The 802.11b adapter is a wireless LAN card and an access point is the wireless equivalent of a switch. On a side note, if you are going to buy wireless, you should buy the one that is 802.11g compatible. 802.11b is old and slow and may not work all the time due to incompatibility with newer equipment. Regards, -- Naresh __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
At 2005-09-26 07:04:33 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More Ram, Do you guys think, shifting to Ubuntu or Slackware will do? No. Speculation won't help you to solve performance problems. Identify the problem before trying to solve it. And switching distributions is, in general, not going to help you with anything at all. Use top and vmstat to figure out why the machine is slow (as suggested in another message). I suspect, since you have only 256MB of RAM, that you're being driven into swap too often as you switch between programs. Test that hypothesis, and you'll have a better idea of what to do next. -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
Hi, Just use X not the whole GNOME/KDE .It will save u on some RAM . I tried this sol with my older comp it seems to be helpfull but I never actually measured the amt of extra RAM I made available by doing so and whther is actually did inc the RAM to other apps :). Bye TShah On 9/26/05, nitin gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, This is Nitin Gupta, one of Silent but active member of this Community. As i mentioned in the mails before, me and my company Xaprio Solutions is completely shifted to linux from a long time now. We are doing just fine, using FC4, but its very very slow. We are on P4 2.8GHZ with 256mb RAM, still it gets hung a number of times in a day. I wanted to know is there any better option for us then FC4? It should be easy as some of our team members are fairly new to it, but still Robust and Faster then FC4. Waiting for your answer. Kind Regards, Nitin Gupta CEO Xaprio Solutions http://www.xaprio.com/ http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ http://www.roadrashers.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] WiFi between two laptops
I have the 802.11g standard router from linksys and when i got it a year and a half ago,it cost me about Rs.6000 (i imported it). A similar model now costs around Rs. 3000 or so now...I dont have the current prices but this is a ballpark figure. Hope this helps. Best regards, Vikram Ranade ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
in infinite wisdom Sandip Bhattacharya spoke thus on 09/26/05 22:02: * Disable all unnecessary services, That reminds me - wasn't there some issue in FC where the LANG was set to utf8 and the locate fired off through cron would suck up the cpu. Maybe setting LANG to en_US should help ? Not sure about this part though -- Raj ShekharY!IM : lunatech3007 blog : http://rajshekhar.net/blog home : http://rajshekhar.net Disclaimer : http://rajshekhar.net/disclaimer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
* Disable all unnecessary services, Yes... That's THE most important factor why linux on the desktop runs slow... you probably dont need portmap, atd, sendmail, sshd, etc. etc stop service you don't need! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
--- nitin gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, First of all thanks a lot for relying, were you present at the recently held freedel event? No I wasn't. Very nice of you , why dont you share about your experiences at the next meet. I would love to, but i haven't attended any meet before so not sure about it. |We are doing just fine, using FC4, but its very very slow. We are on P4 2.8GHZ with 256mb RAM, still it gets hung a number of times in a day. i presume you are using more than one PC ,does all the PC's show such behaviour. What do you mean by Hung, whats the error messages you get on the monitor , is there any specific event which make this said hung behaviour happen. By Hung means, very very slow. I am generally working on 3-4 applications simulatenously including Evolution, FireFox, BlueFish, Gaim and some other small softwares, which i think is retty normal. It works fine for the 60% of the day, but some times it goes real slow, specially while fetching emails via evolution. Another thing is that, i uses xampp on my local system and when 2 or more users access it simultaneously, the conditions gets worse :( Add more RAM and shift to mozilla-thunderbird and mozilla-firefox. Evolution has some memory leaks which slow down the sytem if you keep evolution open for long time. regards VK I have studied in an university called life Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
On Monday, 26 Sep 2005 22:22, Raj shekhar wrote: in infinite wisdom Sandip Bhattacharya spoke thus on 09/26/05 22:02: * Disable all unnecessary services, That reminds me - wasn't there some issue in FC where the LANG was set to utf8 and the locate fired off through cron would suck up the cpu. Maybe setting LANG to en_US should help ? Oh yeah. I can confirm that. Damn, I forgot this bit after I installed FC4 a few weeks ago. (scurries off to do the job) ;) - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
[ilugd] Slow FC4
I've been messing with FC4 for a few days now...and it seems a little sluggish to me...compared to FC3or am I just imagining it? Overall the installation was also very odd.it refused to boot after i completed installation Simply gave a blank screen after loading modulesI did a hard reboot and then it worked perfectly till the next reboot...and then again a few reboots later.same story.. It detected the display as VESA...so i let that be ...because i figured that it was the safest setting. the hardware (IBM T20) ran flawlessly with FC3. Anyone else have a similar experience? Best regards, Vikram Ranade ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] WiFi between two laptops
My router is a Linksys WRT54G Wireless-G Broadband Router. It has 4 100Mbit Lan ports as well as a DSL/WAN Port. works great. Best regards, Vikram Ranade ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
[ilugd] Linux friendly Digital camera
Was curious if there are any digital camera's that work out of the box with linux. I wanted to get hold of a 2~5 Megapixel one for work and I need this to work well with Linux. By working well i mean that i should be able to mount it as a regular USB drive thru a USB connector cable to copy the pictures and movies off it. Anybody had good experiences with a specific model or brand that would guide me? Thanks, Regards, Vikram Ranade ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Slow FC4
Hi, Yes even i do too face the same problem. During installation also i was facing problem , i googled and i found that i need to enter a word before pressing enter. It is not even detecting mine in built lan card. Also i found the performance not acceptable in terms of speed of applications. I have AMD 64 bit processor with 512 MB RAM. -- Regards Abhishek jain Original Message: - From: vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:50:40 -0700 To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: [ilugd] Slow FC4 I've been messing with FC4 for a few days now...and it seems a little sluggish to me...compared to FC3or am I just imagining it? Overall the installation was also very odd.it refused to boot after i completed installation Simply gave a blank screen after loading modulesI did a hard reboot and then it worked perfectly till the next reboot...and then again a few reboots later.same story.. It detected the display as VESA...so i let that be ...because i figured that it was the safest setting. the hardware (IBM T20) ran flawlessly with FC3. Anyone else have a similar experience? Best regards, Vikram Ranade ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Slow FC4
hmm ..odd. I was just trying out a newer linux distro to see of there was any speed impact with a freshly bundled and relatively newer package selectioni guess not... will try to install gentoo (painfully slow on a PIII 750) regards, Vikram On 9/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yes even i do too face the same problem. During installation also i was facing problem , i googled and i found that i need to enter a word before pressing enter. It is not even detecting mine in built lan card. Also i found the performance not acceptable in terms of speed of applications. I have AMD 64 bit processor with 512 MB RAM. -- Regards Abhishek jain Original Message: - From: vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:50:40 -0700 To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: [ilugd] Slow FC4 I've been messing with FC4 for a few days now...and it seems a little sluggish to me...compared to FC3or am I just imagining it? Overall the installation was also very odd.it refused to boot after i completed installation Simply gave a blank screen after loading modulesI did a hard reboot and then it worked perfectly till the next reboot...and then again a few reboots later.same story.. It detected the display as VESA...so i let that be ...because i figured that it was the safest setting. the hardware (IBM T20) ran flawlessly with FC3. Anyone else have a similar experience? Best regards, Vikram Ranade ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Linux friendly Digital camera
sounds interesting...will check it out... anybody with experiences with a new Sony Cybershot? or the casio Exilim\ thanks, Vikram On 9/26/05, Prashant Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was curious if there are any digital camera's that work out of the box with linux. My Canon Powershot S100 worked beautifully with FC3. And by that, I mean that FC3 opened its image viewer/Album program and I was able to copy images off of the camera. Very pleasant experience. And when I had finished smiling, I closed the firefox window, which I had opened (in anticipation) to google for problem canon S100 FC3 :-) Prashant Verma ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Slow FC4
I already downloaded the gentoo 2005.1 universal CD and the 2005.1 packages Cd so the sources download should be minimal (or am I mistaken?) I plan to do the (easy) network-less install. I did try and install Gentoo once (older release) and it took ages on a slow PC even though i had a T1 net connection. The compile times were simply crazy. Will share what i manage to achieve ;-). Regards, Vikram On 9/26/05, abhay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: time taken by gentoo installation does not depend on CPU alone rather your connection speed also plays a huge role as you need to download lots of sources. if you are thinking about installing gentoo with a dial-up connection then please be ready to counter lots of frustration. on the other hand if you have a fast connection then i can assure you that you will absolutely love the Gentoo eXPerience ;) just a heads up. P.S. Have a look at Jackass way (no pun intended) of installing gentoo in gentoo forums. that makes gentoo lot better. vikram ranade wrote: will try to install gentoo (painfully slow on a PIII 750) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] WiFi between two laptops
May be from Rashi Peripherals, the ASUS distributor in Delhi? Rashi Peripherals Pvt.Ltd. 312A/314 Mansarovar, 90,Nehru Palace, New Delhi 110019. 26448428, 26448429, 51618740, 51618767, 51617665 http://www.rptechindia.com/ The router is mentioned on their site so it should be available with them. Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: (Incidentally, if anyone knows where one can get an ASUS WL500g router in Delhi, I'd love to hear from you) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] WiFi between two laptops
yup...i believe it runs some version of linux anyway.a linksys modified version. openwrt is a nice twist dont think i'll try it though..it works and the latest firmware is securedont want to mess with it On 9/26/05, Sirtaj Singh Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 26 September 2005 23:25, vikram ranade wrote: My router is a Linksys WRT54G Wireless-G Broadband Router. It has 4 100Mbit Lan ports as well as a DSL/WAN Port. works great. BTW I wonder if you're aware that you can run Linux on this router, check out http://openwrt.org/ (Incidentally, if anyone knows where one can get an ASUS WL500g router in Delhi, I'd love to hear from you) -Taj. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Linux friendly Digital camera
On 9/27/05, vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sounds interesting...will check it out... anybody with experiences with a new Sony Cybershot? or the casio Exilim\ thanks, Vikram Generally even if the cameras do not work with photo programs you can mount them as usb drive and use them as regular file storage space to delete / edit pictues. My Sony cybershot (older one) mounts as /dev/sda to /media/usbkey. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
On 9/26/05, nitin gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to know is there any better option for us then FC4? It should be easy as some of our team members are fairly new to it, but still Robust and Faster then FC4. Two directions to explore: 1. Look up CentOS. For running enterprise work it would be better. 2. Within FC4 remove services that are not needed plus rhn-applet -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Linux friendly Digital camera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vikram == vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vikram Was curious if there are any digital camera's that work Vikram out of the box with linux. I wanted to get hold of a 2~5 Vikram Megapixel one for work and I need this to work well with Vikram Linux. By working well i mean that i should be able to Vikram mount it as a regular USB drive thru a USB connector cable Vikram to copy the pictures and movies off it. Anybody had good Vikram experiences with a specific model or brand that would Vikram guide me? Thanks, I'm using the Fuji Finepix 2600 which works pretty well with Linux. I don't know the other specs (how many megapixel, etc), but I can use the camera as a USB disk easily, and with drivers from sourceforge I can also use it as a webcam. Don't know if the webcam drivers have made it to the mainstream kernel yet. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFDOKaGyWjQ78xo0X8RAgz8AKCYacboHuz18B6sgOMJePfb/yObPwCeIDcF 0ECN4rFggLk90nrF+kA2mwk= =Hmnt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Slow FC4
On Monday, 26 Sep 2005 23:20, vikram ranade wrote: It detected the display as VESA...so i let that be ...because i figured that it was the safest setting. After installing, run an upgrade to the latest updates. The new 2.6.12 FC4 kernel and x.org updates seems to have solved quite a few issues. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Linux friendly Digital camera
On Tue, September 27, 2005 0:42, vikram ranade said: sounds interesting...will check it out... anybody with experiences with a new Sony Cybershot? or the casio Exilim\ thanks, Vikram Sony Cybershot P32. when yu connect it to Ubuntu, gThumb opens and asks me whether i want to import the pictures. also, it shows up on the desktop. earlier on mandrake 9.2 it used to display as 'Camera'. i think any camera which supports PTP will work without problems o--o | vivek * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://exain.net | |Registered Linux User: #305493| o--o ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] No Community in the Licenses - digression from Where is the Community
At 2005-09-26 15:46:09 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Community license provides a free version of Community Server that can easily be upgraded to a commercial license. BTW, this seems like an entirely coincidental use of community. It's not even clear to me if this communityserver.org thing is a real free software license (but I didn't look terribly hard). -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] WiFi between two laptops
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 02:27, vikram ranade wrote: yup...i believe it runs some version of linux anyway.a linksys modified version. openwrt is a nice twist dont think i'll try it though..it works and the latest firmware is securedont want to mess with it Hey, where's your sense of adventure? ;-) I can understand why you wouldn't want to try it though, especially if it's working just right for you. I'm considering the Asus router as a mini network appliance for local services (DNS etc), IPSEC endpoint, print and disk server (via a portable USB drive). There are a lot of possibilities... -Taj. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] No Community in the Licenses - digression from Where is the Community
At 2005-09-27 00:39:51 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, if you can convince them that it is a good idea for them to participate more, and do more to promote freedom, that would be a good thing. But that isn't a question of obligations. The community's role is partly to create an environment, as you say, that helps people to understand and appreciate the issues; but that isn't the function of the license per se. The two complement each other. Let me explain that a little better. There are two major aspects to promoting Free software: First, you have to convince individual authors to allow their software to be shared and used freely. Then you try to convince them to do so in a way that seeks to protect those freedoms in perpetuity (i.e. to use a Copyleft license of some kind). The existence of a community is in itself a powerful argument in trying to convince people to participate and contribute. And the license is an important tool in sustaining the community by giving its ideas a sound legal basis. At no stage does this involve any obligations other than the legal ones you incur by agreeing to a Free software license. Confusing those roles of protection and propagation will only end up weakening both. (I suspect you're not going to like this, but RMS has written and said now and again that the Free in Free software is derived from the same roots as free enterprise, and inspired by the ideals expressed by the American constitution. For example, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gpl-american-way.html) -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
Hi All, First of all, thanks a lot for helping us out. I am very very glad to see such a good response of my question. I got the problem, some memory was taken by extra services, and rest by Evolution. I think Evolution have this serious problem for guys like me who are using it for 15 hours a day. So i am now thinking to shift to Thunderbird. but i wanted to know, how can i export all my emails from Evolution to Thunderbird? I have 2000+ emails there and all of them are very important. Please Suggest. In the End, I would like to thank all of you for this help :) Regards, Nitin Gupta CEO Xaprio Solutions http://www.xaprio.com/ http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ http://www.roadrashers.com/ __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
On 9/27/05, nitin gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, First of all, thanks a lot for helping us out. I am very very glad to see such a good response of my question. I got the problem, some memory was taken by extra services, and rest by Evolution. I think Evolution have this serious problem for guys like me who are using it for 15 hours a day. So i am now thinking to shift to Thunderbird. but i wanted to know, how can i export all my emails from Evolution to Thunderbird? I have 2000+ emails there and all of them are very important. Please Suggest. In the End, I would like to thank all of you for this help :) google cheers Satyakam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] No Community in the Licenses - digression from Where is the Community
ams == Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ams [snip] ams (I suspect you're not going to like this, but RMS has written ams and said now and again that the Free in Free software is ams derived from the same roots as free enterprise, and inspired ams by the ideals expressed by the American constitution. For ams example, see ams http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gpl-american-way.html) Ganesh Prasad has done an extensive analysis of the GPL vis-a-vis the views of one of the best-known promoters of the capitalist system, Ayn Rand. The article is available at: http://www.freeos.com/printer.php?entryID=4133 Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Fastest Desktop Linux
--- satyakam goswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: google Thanks, Found the Solution :) This Community Rules!! This is kinda spam here, but if you guys are intrested in Bikes or Bikers, do checkout our new website, http://www.roadrashers.com/ Thanks Again! Regards, Nitin Gupta CEO Xaprio Solutions http://www.xaprio.com/ http://www.xaprio.com/forums/ http://www.roadrashers.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
Re: [ilugd] Slow FC4
On Tuesday, 27 Sep 2005 20:44, Komal wrote: Can you tell me what exact issues they have addressed? FC4 seems too bloated. What do you mean by a distro which is bloated? If you want a lean install, do a custom installation and select explicitly which packages you want to be installed. In most cases, a 1 to 1.5GB install suffices for using FC4 as a desktop. For workstations, you might need to install more libraries and development tools which will take more space. I use Kubuntu/Ubuntu too, and for similar requirements of a workstation have had to download a lot of packages to get started. FC4 provides all that on disk, and so does Debian. In my case, in a recent install at one of my clients, FC4 wasnt working very well with the display - switching to text-mode and back to X (Ctrl-Alt-Fn), was causing display corruption. After the first round of updates (which included the kernel and x.org) this problem disappeared. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Event: Freedel 2005, 17th 18th September, 2005 - http://freedel.in
