Re: [ilugd] Science Fiction & Foss
2008/10/12 Swapnil Bhartiya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [SNIP] > fiction writing in India, National Council of Science and Technology > Communication in association with Indian Science Fiction Writers' > Association (ISFWA), Faizabad and Indian Association of Science Fiction > Studies (IASFS), Vallore, is organising the first-ever national discussion > on science fiction – its past, present and future. Date from 10 -14 > November, 2008 [SNIP] Location? -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. PS: I know most of people do not follow email niceties (mostly they are not aware) but if you follow bottom post/in-line post style of email conversations it becomes a whole lot easier to carry on meaningful dialogue and you can snip out what is not meaningful too. Most people just hit reply button and top post leaving prior message appended uselessly at bottom. See if you can adopt this style and persuade others. In case you are already doing this . great, spread the message. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1921] [OT] (possibly) Most user friendly Distro for non-techies
>--- On Sun, 12/10/08, narendra sisodiya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All > I have been looking for a truly user friendly distro to > suggest to > those who want to install Linux on their disks minus the > gyan. Hi, My vote goes to Xandros with Easydesktop that is distributed with every new Asus EEEPC (the highly acclaimed netbook series from Asus). It takes the cake when it comes to user-friendliness and ease of use for first time users.. I have heard people asking if this was M$ Windoze with a different theme :) With Warm Regards, Shivkumar linux user no: 450769 blog: outbackwifi.blogspot.com profile: www.linkedin.com/in/shivjags Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:48 AM, M.S.Yatnatti wrote: > I have used red hat version 5.2 6.2 7.2 7.3 8 9 and Fedora 1-9 and white box > centos debain koppix etc. Please use spellchecker and add 'Debian' to your dictionary too. -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Homepage: people.debian.org/~kartik Blog.en: ftbfs.wordpress.com Blog.gu: kartikm.wordpress.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] HowTo: access SFTP only ( exclude ssh shell )
Hi, Thanks for the replies. I have manged to do that using jailkit ( http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/). This is a pretty neat stuff. Very well documented at http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/howtos_sftp_scp_only.html . On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Prasanta Baruah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi, > > I had been wondering if anyone has experience with setting up a user > account > > for only sftp/scp access. The user is not allowed to obtain shell access > > > > Use 'scponly', > > http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/wiki/index.php/Features > > Setting up an account with only sftp, > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94 > > -- > Prasanta > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
Warning: Long response. If you are not interested in this thread you may skip it. 2008/10/12 M.S.Yatnatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thank you for insulting me by > your earlier posting.ButI respectfully agree to disagree that As long as some one replies, you can go on. When new issues are raised some people might come back, like I did. Or if people does not have enough time to respond the thread might dead. But I don't think anyone should force it to end as long as there is more than one persons responding to it. So many people have responded to this thread and it shows there is an interest in this topic. > topic is at dead end. Many groups are discussing . If you don't want > to discuss please leave us peacefully.. Many time people end and > issued remained. Many unresolved issued are their in FLOSS.And also I Exactly. Even though this might not be an issue "per say" for the community. Increasing use of trademarks by increasing number of projects in increasing restriction is a concern. Even though I understand the importance of protecting trademarks, some of the trademarks policies does not seem to be in line with best of the Free Software community. > want make you small advise because I might be or may not elder to > you. I am fifty year old and debated a lot .i have less English > knowledge than you. Excuse me for this. Is public list are meant for > insulting each other. You have publicly insulted me on this list , > threatened me and my websites .Today you have come on polite note Dear sir, in the Free Software community many of of us are passionate about what we say and what we do, so many a times the discussions go heated and even to the level of personal attacks. It is sad but a fact about this community. This is also one of the strength of the community - to have people who have all kinds of opinions and priorities but come together on issues which are shared by them and still keeping the differences. Many a times people are responding to issues and not to people who writing it - at least that is what happens with me most of the times. > advising abcde topics . Can you sincerely tell me Who has > authorized you to insult me like that. Are you acting on behalf of > red hat .Please let me know that .Are you employee of red hat .Please > let me know .Public list and your insult and on your insult many > others had insulted and made big fun of this topic. This pained me a > lot. You should not have done this. On public list discuss the topic > with giving respect to others .This kind of arm twisting never helps But as said earlier, members of the community have different goals, priorities, attitudes, communication skills and tolerance levels. > Linux community. Just because I discuss a topic nothing will happen > to red hat. I still remain a great fan of red hat and accepting the > the fact that i was not able to convince the leader of open source on > the pitfalls of dual policy. Keeping two legs on two different ships > will damage the entity. Red hat should not become victim of keeping > its leg on two ships. > Actually I am red Hat fan .I am pained It is understandable. The problem is you are not clear about the issues you are trying to raise and mix up many issues in a way that does not make sense. > because of their dual policy. One for fedora and one for RHEL I have > used red hat version 5.2 6.2 7.2 7.3 8 9 and Fedora 1-9 and white box > centos debain koppix etc.I have very little knowledge about GPL. From Thanks for your support to Free Software for such a long time and I appreciate your interest in learning about the GPL. > the last ten years I am reader of PC Quest and recently Linux for you > .The article published in Linux for you made me think very seriously > that some thing is very much wrong .Either red hat is correct or GPL > is insufficient to tackle the threat of trade mark. The fedora is The problem is very much there - that of trademarks trying to restrict Free Software. But mostly it is an irritation and not an actual restriction. Take the example of Mozilla Firefox, it is an irritation that Debian cannot distribute "Mozilla Firefox", because of the trademark policy of Mozilla. But it is not a big problem as they are able to ship the same software as "Ice Weasel". In the same way it is seriously an irritation not to be able to redistribute RHEL, but as CentOS is readily available it is less of a problem. I hope in the long run the Free Software community would be the winners when more browsers come to the place -- like the recent entry of Chrome -- and CentOS popularity increases. If more people start using CentOS and people start giving commercial support to CentOS, Red Hat would have to seriously rethink about its trademark policies. I see a business opportunity here. Start supporting CentOS commercially and give customers full Freedom without trademark restrictions. Currently not many use the trademarks in much restrictive ways but if other pro
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
Dear Mr Gaurav Mishra , You and your fighting philosophy at your website http://gauravmishra.info/about/ inspires me .You are A Technical Guy, Who loves people and Great Energy, Developer by Profession, Marketer by hobbyist and Motivator and Leader by heart. And Yeah, Entrepreneur by Determination.With same determination i shall also debate the issues.You have freedom to boycott this thread. I respect your freedom.also .I respect your freedom to tell every body on the internet to not to respond on this thread.But the fact remains that GPL is under greater threat by trade marks.whether you agree or not.some one has bluntly said about this dual policy of redhat .I mean that they grant you the rights with one hand, but lock those rights with the other hand. "Lock in" was not a good term, sorry! Maybe"hijack" would be more apropriate.Also at http://www.linux.com/articles/40078 it talks about Trade Marks : A Threat to free softwares freedom?. and also at http://freeculture.org/blog/category/subjects/trademarks/ .I am not hurting you.You have all the freedom not to respond.But you cannot justfy calling me internet depressive childs.Linux For You Magzine has already reached thousands of homes with the article Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL ?.you cannot call LFY depressive magzine.People will discuss it.They also have freedom.You also have freedom not to discuss.It is all about freedom of software.It is freedom even loved by Red Hat.It never cuts any bodys freedom to express thier views.Truth happens Movie of Red Hat tells about freedom. I love your fredom .But does not allow any body to cut my freedom of expression.As i am on public list.If ILUG-D decalres that it private list ,then i will withdraw from the list. Any way you have taken great effort to defend your views.I give my thanks to LFY for publishing article.thanks for every body for fun and seriousness on this thread and making my understanding of the tpoic .You have increased the kowlegde of many people. For you the topic is dead.for others topic is still relevant untill trade marks threat exists.i respect every bodys freedom of expression. Thanks to every body. M.S.Yatnatti KPN UNLIMITED Corporate Office:No.18/6, Executive chambers, Cunningham Road, Bangalore – 560052. WEBSITE www.kpnunlimited.org --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Gaurav Mishra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Gaurav Mishra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 2:51 AM Stop guys replying to this thread and this thread will die once and for all, There are enough internet depressive childs, He is one of them ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 10 Examples to Make Your Linux Prompt like Angelina Jolie
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Angad Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 10 awesome bash tweaks you can't miss: > > http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/bash-shell-ps1-10-examples-to-make-your-linux-prompt-like-angelina-jolie/ > \ Tried 2-3 years back , Bloated my PC memory like anything. Will love to know about the performance issues currently occuring... -- Thanks and Regards Gaurav Mishra Linux User #348873 http://gauravmishra.info/blog "When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward" ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
Stop guys replying to this thread and this thread will die once and for all, There are enough internet depressive childs, He is one of them ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
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-->Mr sudhanwa,
Thank you for insulting me by
your earlier posting.ButI respectfully agree to disagree that
topic is at dead end. Many groups are discussing . If you don't want
to discuss please leave us peacefully.. Many time people end and
issued remained. Many unresolved issued are their in FLOSS.And also I
want make you small advise because I might be or may not elder to
you. I am fifty year old and debated a lot .i have less English
knowledge than you. Excuse me for this. Is public list are meant for
insulting each other. You have publicly insulted me on this list ,
threatened me and my websites .Today you have come on polite note
advising abcde topics . Can you sincerely tell me Who has
authorized you to insult me like that. Are you acting on behalf of
red hat .Please let me know that .Are you employee of red hat .Please
let me know .Public list and your insult and on your insult many
others had insulted and made big fun of this topic. This pained me a
lot. You should not have done this. On public list discuss the topic
with giving respect to others .This kind of arm twisting never helps
Linux community. Just because I discuss a topic nothing will happen
to red hat. I still remain a great fan of red hat and accepting the
the fact that i was not able to convince the leader of open source on
the pitfalls of dual policy. Keeping two legs on two different ships
will damage the entity. Red hat should not become victim of keeping
its leg on two ships.
Actually I am red Hat fan .I am pained
because of their dual policy. One for fedora and one for RHEL I have
used red hat version 5.2 6.2 7.2 7.3 8 9 and Fedora 1-9 and white box
centos debain koppix etc.I have very little knowledge about GPL. From
the last ten years I am reader of PC Quest and recently Linux for you
.The article published in Linux for you made me think very seriously
that some thing is very much wrong .Either red hat is correct or GPL
is insufficient to tackle the threat of trade mark. The fedora is
distributable in unmodified form .RHEL is made or derived out of
Fedora and same license need to be followed (BASICS OF GPL TELLS
THIS) But RHEL has different Trademark policy. Why this dual policy.
Earlier red hat was one distribution. It was redistributable .Many
books were publishing that with CD. Red hat charging fees for
support. Up to this was fine .2003 it abruptly stopped red hat and
started RHEL.. And after some time started fedora. Fedora has GPL
redistributable unmodified distribution. RHEL GPL non distributable.
Total RHEL which is distributed in CD is commercial .No body can
distribute the CD as a Linux distribution Reason is it is
commercially distributed by red hat. Red hat says that buyer will
get confused. Please note that no body get confused as every buyer of
CD knows that he is buying CD which is GPL and GPL does not give
support and for support definitely they go for supporting companies.
Any body might pay Rs 50 or Rs 100 for Linux distribution CD. Buyer
knows that he is buying GPL version without any support. But the fact
that inside all GPL packages are redistributable and individual
packaged does not give any guarantee of support as GPL does not give
any guarantees to user. Now Confusion is every were .Fedora GPL and
RHEL Commercial .In mean while Linux Trade Mark of Linux creator
Linus Thorvald. But see the fun .Red hat uses Linux Trade Mark .Only
want to money for its red hat marks. Linux Kernel is GPL and several
thousand applications are GNU GPL. But even does not care to put
penguin mark. Earlier versions penguin was there. Please not that
Linux creator Linus Thorvald has trade marked Linux but kept in
public domain. As Linux is and forever GPL..Let the red hat also be
in like that. Today fedora is community Linux distribution and
community is supporting as it did for red hat for several years.
Please not that dual policies of red hat are creating lot of
confusion. When we call fedora community distribution and RHEL is
based on this version ,logic says that RHEL simply extend GPL in
RHEL.
Finally RHEL is commercial. Red Hat is
corporate company. If suppose tomorrow the commercial mangers of the
company after seeing the market of Linux growing in fedora may decide
that fedora is sold to some one else and they have the same trade
mark policy of RHEL then open community will be in vacuum. Please
note that Fedora is trade mark property of Red hat. It can sell to
any body.
Because of growing popularity of Linux
many commercial ventures are taking shape with big money and arm
twisting tactics and they will twist the GPL to their advantage .Many
well paid lawyers will make the life of GPL miserable.
I am fan of Red Hat .A great open
source company .i am pained by their dual policy. One for fedora and
one for RHEL. Red hat one mistake can take open source bleeding. I
have nothing pe
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
Dear MSY, People are trying to help you understand things in the proper context/perspective. However, it seems that you are still not able to accept anybodys opinions/views. That leads you to a dead end and nobody can help you at that point. First of all, it was a wrong starting point -- some article in a magazine-- for the discussions. You should have started with some good study of licenses, copyrights, Trade marks. If you are so serious about knowing these and applying the same knowledge for the discussion on the article OR the "RHEL" distribution, please start off with a completely NEW mail stating your understand of a. GPL v2 b. GPL v3 c. Trademarks d. copyrights e... f g... etc etc.. That can be a good discussion useful to many others too. But in this thread, you are already at a dead end. It is very clear from your mails that you do not have an open mind to accept things which are completely acceptable according to the license of RHEL (GPL v2 in this case) and also legally correct across countries regarding the trade marks. So, it is now your choice to open your mind or get stuck up at a dead end. and do not worry about the GPL. FSF will take care of that :-) See the difference between v2 and v3. Regards, -Sudhanwa ps: top posting is done deliberately. I do not think this mail and the thread deserves any further reading. [snip] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1921] [OT] (possibly) Most user friendly Distro for non-techies
> - Updates and upgrades used to be a major issue, at least till some time > back. Upgrading a Knoppix installation was next to impossible (as some > people on this list can testify). Considering the daily increasing > need for security, having an OS that can't be upgraded is not option. > Of course, things may have changed since the last time I looked at > Knoppix, in which case this becomes a non-issue. > > Similarly, installing a package that is not available on the base > Knoppix DVD image could become a major problem. > Its possible to upgrade the hard disk installed image as mentioned earlier in 5.3.1. (http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Knoppix_Installer). Upgrading is synced with debian lenny/sid So update and getting new packages can be done with debian repos. (In my experience doing update with debian testing is preferrable). Knopper's customisations may get lost due to package update though. Upgrading option is also similar. I mentioned it in context of a person who need not upgrade like they do with a certain distro only getting occassional "dis-service" packs. I am basically recommending it for non-techies who want things working out of the box, no headache of synaptic manager since so many softwares including those for development + special purposes available by default. For those inclined there is nothing better than a vanilla debian/slackware distro of course. Regards Gajendra ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1921] [OT] (possibly) Most user friendly Distro for non-techies
On Sunday 12 Oct 2008, narendra sisodiya wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: gajendra khanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi All > I have been looking for a truly user friendly distro to suggest to > those who want to install Linux on their disks minus the gyan. > And I think I have found it - Knoppix 5.3.1! > Knoppix is the best live distro seen by me till date. The quality put > together by one man is really amazing. I agree that Knoppix is a wonderful live OS; however I'd be pretty reluctant to use it as an installed OS for a number of reasons: - Updates and upgrades used to be a major issue, at least till some time back. Upgrading a Knoppix installation was next to impossible (as some people on this list can testify). Considering the daily increasing need for security, having an OS that can't be upgraded is not option. Of course, things may have changed since the last time I looked at Knoppix, in which case this becomes a non-issue. Similarly, installing a package that is not available on the base Knoppix DVD image could become a major problem. - Knoppix doesn't give an end user much control over what drivers get installed and what devices get enabled. You normally want your hardware to work out of the box; however > > It has an installer script called knoppix-installer which is to be > run from root console. Other than the default option of type > there is an option called Knoppix Cd-like (or similar). (You should > have made + formatted your root- recommended 15 GB size- and swap > partitions earlier with partition > editor or QtParted ). Rest of the options are very easy (choose > correct partition, choose to install to mbr and wait for it to copy. > Say no to floppy boot if you don't want it) > The installer installs the system to hard disk to work like from DVD. > (No CD for 5.3.1 - Its DVD only.). Shows initially 75% till all the > data gets copied (9 GB of wonderful software). > (Best part is that while its installing you can listen to songs on > other partitions or play other games including sudoku! Also you can > check that the hardware will work > before you actually install it including Compiz, audio, ethernet, > wireless etc). Once its completed reboot and remove DVD. > You will get a DVD like system (ignore the "errors" during initial > bootup) booting directly into the system (no passwords to enter for > user and even root) as you > go into the default knoppix user with wonderful effects from compiz > and More software than you will need of all kinds. (mp3 works out of > the box. Non-free codecs can be > installed separately if you want). (Don't update - upgrade with > debian though if you don't want to remove the customisations knopper > did. All softwares are already there in much usable state. No repos > etc needed for those without net as well since what you need is > likely already there). > > So to sum up advantages:- > 1. No passwords to enter anywhere. > 2. Easy configuration of hardware. > 3. Wonderful looks with Compiz out of the box. > 4. Over 6000 packages (more than commonly needed) in much usable > state - so no need to use Synaptic. > 5. Fast bootup > 6. All disks recognised out of the box. (Made read only by default. > Making writable is just unticking it in the properties. Just double > click to mount). > 7. Pen drives work directly without headache. > 8. You can check the hardware before installing to disk. > 9. Almost No need to go back for support after installing due to its > intuitive interface. > > There are very user friendly scripts available for configuring the > network, sound, printers also. (Set keyboard to US to avoid seeing > German!). This version even has facility of > audio desktop for the visually challenged! (Adrianne, named after > Knopper's wife). > Some supported tv tuner cards can also be configured. > > Thats it. A wonderful looking system with almost no headaches. > > It should work on big USB drives also (although the swap on it may > really kill its life). > > It also has a persistent-image mode where you can make your USB > persistent - a file made to store your "home" on pendrive. Just enter > it in boot options to use the pendrive as > home. Take the DVD and pendrive to any system - It becomes your > system! (No copying/NO syncing required). (Carrying the DVD is not > practically a hassle even though many people try to make it out to be > one). > > Regards > Gajendra > > Note: I am not endorsing it. Just telling the capabilities you can > offer to non-techie friends which one doesn't get with other distros > to this extent. Try it yourself to see if it suits you/them. > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- group http://groups.google.com/group/iitdlug > -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & C
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1921] [OT] (possibly) Most user friendly Distro for non-techies
Hi > No doubt at all. Knoppix just rocks. What has he done with the Compiz > Fusion, its incredibly fast and lightweight??? True. It runs faster than on any other system. The beryl he had given with knoppix 5.1.1 was also similarly very fast and good. > Personally I admire Knopper and Adriane a lot. They are awesome couple very > dedicated and very inspiring! I also admire the spirit of this man, an electical engineer, staying in a small place (with less than a lakh people )of Germany (Kaiserslautern) making Linux more useable - so different from many people who just talk and do nothing. Very refreshing. The installer developers (Fabian Franz, Kano and of course Knopper) have done an excellent job too this time. It is like having a good knoppix on hard disk now which had some issues earlier like problems with pendrive. (Details of installer are available here: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Knoppix_Installer) Regards Gajendra ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1921] [OT] (possibly) Most user friendly Distro for non-techies
> > > Knoppix is the best live distro seen by me till date. The quality put > together by one man is really amazing. No doubt at all. Knoppix just rocks. What has he done with the Compiz Fuzion, its incredibly fast and lightweight??? Personally I admire Knopper and Adriane a lot. They are awesome couple very dedicated and very inspiring! Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1921] [OT] (possibly) Most user friendly Distro for non-techies
-- Forwarded message -- From: gajendra khanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:18 AM Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1921] [OT] (possibly) Most user friendly Distro for non-techies To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All I have been looking for a truly user friendly distro to suggest to those who want to install Linux on their disks minus the gyan. And I think I have found it - Knoppix 5.3.1! Knoppix is the best live distro seen by me till date. The quality put together by one man is really amazing. It has an installer script called knoppix-installer which is to be run from root console. Other than the default option of type there is an option called Knoppix Cd-like (or similar). (You should have made + formatted your root- recommended 15 GB size- and swap partitions earlier with partition editor or QtParted ). Rest of the options are very easy (choose correct partition, choose to install to mbr and wait for it to copy. Say no to floppy boot if you don't want it) The installer installs the system to hard disk to work like from DVD. (No CD for 5.3.1 - Its DVD only.). Shows initially 75% till all the data gets copied (9 GB of wonderful software). (Best part is that while its installing you can listen to songs on other partitions or play other games including sudoku! Also you can check that the hardware will work before you actually install it including Compiz, audio, ethernet, wireless etc). Once its completed reboot and remove DVD. You will get a DVD like system (ignore the "errors" during initial bootup) booting directly into the system (no passwords to enter for user and even root) as you go into the default knoppix user with wonderful effects from compiz and More software than you will need of all kinds. (mp3 works out of the box. Non-free codecs can be installed separately if you want). (Don't update - upgrade with debian though if you don't want to remove the customisations knopper did. All softwares are already there in much usable state. No repos etc needed for those without net as well since what you need is likely already there). So to sum up advantages:- 1. No passwords to enter anywhere. 2. Easy configuration of hardware. 3. Wonderful looks with Compiz out of the box. 4. Over 6000 packages (more than commonly needed) in much usable state - so no need to use Synaptic. 5. Fast bootup 6. All disks recognised out of the box. (Made read only by default. Making writable is just unticking it in the properties. Just double click to mount). 7. Pen drives work directly without headache. 8. You can check the hardware before installing to disk. 9. Almost No need to go back for support after installing due to its intuitive interface. There are very user friendly scripts available for configuring the network, sound, printers also. (Set keyboard to US to avoid seeing German!). This version even has facility of audio desktop for the visually challenged! (Adrianne, named after Knopper's wife). Some supported tv tuner cards can also be configured. Thats it. A wonderful looking system with almost no headaches. It should work on big USB drives also (although the swap on it may really kill its life). It also has a persistent-image mode where you can make your USB persistent - a file made to store your "home" on pendrive. Just enter it in boot options to use the pendrive as home. Take the DVD and pendrive to any system - It becomes your system! (No copying/NO syncing required). (Carrying the DVD is not practically a hassle even though many people try to make it out to be one). Regards Gajendra Note: I am not endorsing it. Just telling the capabilities you can offer to non-techie friends which one doesn't get with other distros to this extent. Try it yourself to see if it suits you/them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- group http://groups.google.com/group/iitdlug -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ http://www.lug-iitd.org └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
