Re: considering a used iMac
On Sep 21, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Ashgrove wrote: On Sep 21, 11:22 pm, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Good idea for another reality show. You guys should post those numbers on PCWorld... and watch the Mac-bashers have a field day. Any topic with the word 'Apple' in it draws PC fanboiz and Fandroids like bees to honey. Bill, I just LOVE it! That's pure genius. Imagine THAT. The funny thing is, the joke is really on them. Show me one PC that old that's still standing and that is worth ANY money at all... ;-) ... and it's probably running Linux. :-) Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
Wow, all of these posts really make me rethink my humble collection. I always thought I was going a little overboard, but apparently mine is quite average. One thing that really surprises me is how many desktops everyone has. I only have two, my Intel iMac and an old Performa (while there are several desktops that I want, like the iMac DV and G4 Cube shipping costs and storage are prohibitive). My collection focuses almost entirely on portable devices: Computers: Apple IIc PowerBook 145b PowerBook Duo 230 Performa 630CD PowerBook 5300cs PowerBook 5300ce Powerbook 1400cs/133 PowerBook 3400c/200 PowerBook G3 233mhz (Wallstreet Series II) iBook G4 12 1ghz PowerBook G4 17 1.33ghz iMac 20 (Intel) Devices: ImageWriter II Newton MessagePad 120 QuickTake 150 Newton MessagePad 2100 iPod 15gb (third generation) iPod Shuffle (first generation, lost) iPod Classic 80gb iPhone iPhone 3GS Miscellaneous: Mac OS 9.0 in retail box AppleWorks 6 in retail box Macworld collection (1997-2000) Mac Addict CD collection (almost every disc) Steven On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: Nah, you can never have too many Macs... well if you have more than 2 of the same type, maybe. Check my lineup: • Mac Quadra 610 25MHz MacOS 8.6 (my first Mac, secondhand 1996... all my Macs are secondhand btw) • Power Mac 7200 90MHz MacOS 8.6 • Power Mac 7600 120MHz (I think) MacOS 8.6 • Power Mac 8600 300MHz MacOS 8.6 (on my LAN, still in use... I'm a designer and my Wacom tablet, scanner and printer are SCSI) • G3 iMac 350MHz Panther (Bondi or Blueberry, not sure) • G3 Blue White Panther/Classic 400MHz • G3 iBook 300MHz Panther/Classic (Bondi or Blueberry) • G4 Titanium Powerbook 1.6GHz Leopard (on my LAN) • G4 QuickSilver 800 MHz Tiger (on my LAN) • G5 Dual 2GHz Leopard (on my LAN) I'm no where near the aficionados that you guys here are... I don't tinker with old machines at all. They were all (excepting the iBook) purchased as upgrades to my production as a designer, and all great in their day. On 20/09/10 9:33 PM, Jim Scott wrote: On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Ashgrove wrote: If all works out, my line of iMacs should be happy. In fact, I have 5 iMacs, and one eMac that could be considered an iMac. eMac G4 700 iMac G5 1.8 20 iMac G3 350 iMac G3 600 iMac G3 233 original Bondi Blue iMac G4 1.25 Interesting collection. I see that a lot of us suffer from TTMS (Too Many Macs Syndrome). I'm still envious of that 20 screen. And Jim got himself this year a 27 model, the rascal... ;-) Actually, Felix, I got my 27-inch 3.06 GHz iMac on October 22, 2009, only a couple of days after they were announced. That's not quite a year ago, and it's already been superseded by a newer, improved version. But it's still got that ginormous LED-backlit 27-inch screen which makes almost two of my still-under-AppleCare 20-inch Aluminum 2.4 GHz iMac. Yep, Felix, that's called piling on. Heh-heh. :^) And, let's see, I've got 3 Pismos, 2 Clamshells (with great batteries), 17 G3 iMacs from 233 to 700 MHz waiting for new owners through my Macs for Kids giveaway program, 2 G5 iMacs rescued from the angry capacitor gods, and iPods, iPads ... well, the symptoms just never seem to stop or even go into remission, happy to say. And my wife's still using that Mac Mini I bought from you several years ago. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:18:13 -0400, Midnight rider wrote: Out of curiosity, I just got an iMac G4 1.25Ghz. I do have the mini display adapter, and would it work to extend the desktop or would it just duplicate it? the screen's a 17. The iMac supports video mirroring from the factory, the previously mentioned firmware hack enables extended desktop mode. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
All you need to do it go to System Preferences Desktop and uncheck the box for Translucent Menu Bar. There's no reason to buy a bad video card or download extra software. Steven On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: For those of you who don't like the Translucent Menu bar, get a good video card that is only Software accelerated or Software: only to make sure the menu bar doesn't even think about turning transparent. Or, you could use one of the many hacks out there to make it opaque, so you don't artificially limit yourself... Cheers, Matt Rhinesmith Sent from my iBook G3 Indigo iBook G3 Clamshell 366 MHz PPC 750CX CPU 576 MB RAM 30 GB HDD Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
That's true. I just got my newest vintage Mac, a PowerBook G3 Wallstreet, a few days ago, and despite it being 12 years old the battery still lasts about three hours. Now, I know that certainly isn't the norm, but considering that the rest of my family's laptop batteries (HP, Toshiba, and Sony) don't last more than a few minutes (and haven't since they were less than a year old, even though they were used very lightly), it really says something about the quality that goes into Apple's computers. All of my vintage laptop batteries work for at least half an hour or more, the newest from 2003 (a 17 PowerBook battery that lasts more than 2 hours) and the oldest from 1992 (a PowerBook Duo battery that probably lasts 45 minutes, tops). If Apple can make batteries that last almost twenty years, why can't PC makers make any that last more than six months? Of course, one possible answer could be that most of those vintage PowerBooks were once top of the line expensive computers while my family usually buys budget PC laptops, but I'm pretty sure my sister's VAIO cost more than my iBook G4, and the only thing the battery on that computer is capable of is keeping it in sleep mode for a short time while mine still lasted about 2 hours or so until the iBook's logic board failed (and the VAIO is at least three years newer than the iBook). Sorry for the rant... Steven On Sep 22, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Ashgrove wrote: Bill, I just LOVE it! That's pure genius. Imagine THAT. The funny thing is, the joke is really on them. Show me one PC that old that's still standing and that is worth ANY money at all... ;-) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
On 19/09/10 09:02PDT, Walter Sheluk wrote: I always thought that Apple installers run a check to ascertain if the OS software can be installed to the selected hard drive ? No, it checks the logic board of the Mac the install disc is being run from. As long as the Mac you use is at least a 867MHz G4, it will install on a hard drive in a Mac that is slower; you just use FireWire Target Disc Mode Just now the Leopard is being installed to a FireWired drive with a QS G4 ( 933MHz) hosting the drive. No complaints from the installer. That is because the MINIMUM speed is 867 MHz and you're above that. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:25:49 -0400, Midnight rider wrote: I find it a little strange why people hate the translucent menu bar. I like it, and try to put it on as many machines as possible. I don't like the translucent menu bar, or opaque windows in general. I find backgrounds showing through what I'm looking at distracting. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Well, i can understand your point of view, because i used to be like that when Leo first came out. After a while i liked the transparent menu bar. Although I did like the tiger theme the best since it looked all brushed metal-ish. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Midnight rider wrote: Well, i can understand your point of view, because i used to be like that when Leo first came out. After a while i liked the transparent menu bar. Although I did like the tiger theme the best since it looked all brushed metal-ish. The UI elements should be pleasant-looking so that they *don't* draw the user's attention. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Printing to PDF
Will appreciate some tidbits on how to print to PDF so that it preserves the selected 'paper' size (via page set-up in Office) - not the (probably) default 8.5x11. I don't seem to find where any other size can be attributed to the PDF output - it always shows-up as 8.5x11, even when the original Office document is smaller (or larger) than letter size. My current OS is 10.4.11 - will newer OS (10.5 or 10.6) allow this? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
On 22/09/10 15:10PDT, Joshua Juran wrote: The UI elements should be pleasant-looking so that they *don't* draw the user's attention. Unlike the nightmare UI that is iTunes 10. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
I thought I liked the brushed metal better when Leopard came out, but now when I use Tiger the Finder, iTunes, and Safari all look pretty outdated compared to the sleek look of Leopard and Snow Leopard. And while I do like the translucent menu bar of Leopard and Snow Leopard, I always use a utility called Displaperture to add the rounded corners to the top, and my favorite OS X menu bar might have to be the glossy blue and white design of the original pre-release version of Tiger. Steven On Sep 22, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Midnight rider wrote: I like the window theme of tiger where its brushed metal but the finder (dock and menu bar) theme of Leo and SL. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
yes the menu bar in the pre-release of tiger with a glossy menu bar was also my favorite! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
On Sep 22, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Steven wrote: I thought I liked the brushed metal better when Leopard came out, but now when I use Tiger the Finder, iTunes, and Safari all look pretty outdated compared to the sleek look of Leopard and Snow Leopard. And while I do like the translucent menu bar of Leopard and Snow Leopard, I always use a utility called Displaperture to add the rounded corners to the top, and my favorite OS X menu bar might have to be the glossy blue and white design of the original pre- release version of Tiger. I've always liked Apple Platinum (and the System 7 appearance before it), but I can understand why Apple couldn't use it for OS X -- the stripes in the window title bar don't mix with live window dragging and flat-panel displays. You can see the noise in System 7 window title bars if you look for it, but the flickering in Platinum is just garish. (Hint: Drag an emulator window or screenshot to simulate the effect.) My favorite OS X appearance is iTunes 9. It's a beautiful-looking app -- too bad its usability doesn't meet the same standard. Leopard largely adopted the iTunes 9 appearance but kept the Aqua scroll bars (which are ostentatious in comparison). Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
While I've never cared much for the System 7 look, I agree that the Platinum theme of OS 8 and 9 is great. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Platinum is my favorite operating system theme of all time. And while the strict OS 8 and 9 Platinum theme may have the problems you describe, I think that if Aqua never came along Apple probably would have added many of the features they ended up using in OS X to make use of the larger and higher resolution displays (unless it is just an optical illusion, I'm pretty sure the menu bar and window title bars are much larger in OS X. A 1024x768 screen in OS 9 feels like it has the same amount of room as a 1280x960 screen in OS X). Some of the GUI modifications I have seen for OS X do a very good job of modernizing the Platinum theme, with smooth, 3D style gradients and even a Panther-style glossy transparent rainbow Apple logo. After a long time of trying out these various patches, however, I finally gave up, because there aren't really any that fully recreate the look. Some which have Platinum windows still have a modern menu bar, and vice versa, and if I remember correctly even the ones that looked pretty good had all three window buttons together, like Aqua, not on opposite ends like Platinum. It may just be that I started with Mac OS X in 2004 and never got to use the older operating systems when they were new, but there is a certain charm to the sharp, clean look of Platinum. And also, though apparently many people hated them, I really love the operating system sounds of OS 8 and OS 9. After using one of my old laptops for a while, using Snow Leopard seems startlingly quiet, though there is no way that system sounds could have been transferred to Aqua; all the system sounds would be drips and splashes, which would get annoying much faster than the simple clicks of Platinum. Steven On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Joshua Juran wrote: I've always liked Apple Platinum (and the System 7 appearance before it), but I can understand why Apple couldn't use it for OS X -- the stripes in the window title bar don't mix with live window dragging and flat-panel displays. You can see the noise in System 7 window title bars if you look for it, but the flickering in Platinum is just garish. (Hint: Drag an emulator window or screenshot to simulate the effect.) My favorite OS X appearance is iTunes 9. It's a beautiful-looking app -- too bad its usability doesn't meet the same standard. Leopard largely adopted the iTunes 9 appearance but kept the Aqua scroll bars (which are ostentatious in comparison). Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Steven wrote: (unless it is just an optical illusion, I'm pretty sure the menu bar and window title bars are much larger in OS X. A 1024x768 screen in OS 9 feels like it has the same amount of room as a 1280x960 screen in OS X). It's no illusion. My first OS X installation was Panther on my clamshell iBook with a twelve-inch screen at 800x600. After running OS X, OS 9 felt not only snappy but *spacious*. Some of the GUI modifications I have seen for OS X do a very good job of modernizing the Platinum theme, with smooth, 3D style gradients and even a Panther-style glossy transparent rainbow Apple logo. After a long time of trying out these various patches, however, I finally gave up, because there aren't really any that fully recreate the look. When I became a Mac owner (circa System 6), I believed that more INITs equaled more awesome. During my Mac OS 8.1 days I bought Conflict Catcher, and on OS 9 I've simply been picky about what goes in my System Folder. I haven't used any OS X hacks at all since I'm practically paranoid about stability. It may just be that I started with Mac OS X in 2004 and never got to use the older operating systems when they were new, but there is a certain charm to the sharp, clean look of Platinum. System 7 was an extremely tasteful color upgrade to the original black- and-white Macintosh appearance -- in contrast to pretty much every other color windowing system out there -- (Windows 3.1 shipped with a dozen alternate coloring schemes that all looked worse than the default) -- I like it for being simple but not austere. Platinum trades some of that simplicity for a more sophisticated look. It's not just a case of 'looks nicer than it is' -- I enjoyed it at the time and had no interest in switching to Aqua. I also got to use NeXTStep on the original 68K black hardware, and that was pretty elegant too. And also, though apparently many people hated them, I really love the operating system sounds of OS 8 and OS 9. I don't know about usability, but they're certainly entertaining. I just turned them on for my G4 iMac, and it reminds me a bit of Deckard's photo enhancing device in Blade Runner. Or maybe a parrot imitating that. :-) After using one of my old laptops for a while, using Snow Leopard seems startlingly quiet, Well, you can a few sounds in the Finder (e.g. copying items, emptying the trash). though there is no way that system sounds could have been transferred to Aqua; all the system sounds would be drips and splashes, I still get a chuckle out of seeing NeXTStep and System 7 sounds in the same list. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
I have been using Macs since the OS 7.5.5 days, and ever since, i can't stop exploring this ever expanding realm of macs. I have since grown my collection to 16 Macs, most of them G4 machines and most of them bought in this year. I do miss the old days when System 7 was the flagship, so I keep my Power Mac 6100 downstairs along with some other macs that run OS 7.6, some run OS 7.5.3, others run tiger or OS 9.1. I use mostly Leopard machines nowadays, but i do keep one System 7 machine in reach just in case i need to take a trip down memory lane. I never messed around with NeXTstep too much back in those days, i stuck with Mac OS and Systems until I ran into Rhapsody. I installed it on my Power Mac G3 Gossamer, and was surprised that what used to be NeXTstep all looks like mac os platinum That was the first time i ever thought that this would be the base for Mac OS 9.0 or OS 10. NeXTstep was bought out by Apple in the late OS 6 days... if i am correct. If Apple was already undergoing plans for OS X in those days, can imagine Apple making plans already for Mac OS XI 11.0 or Mac OS 11. or maybe even better, System 11. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Yeah, good old Conflict Catcher... saved my bacon many, many times back in the day. I also miss those sounds in 9, especially the 'clacking' when scrolling down a menu... I guess Apple decided they were too low-class, or something, for the snotty, shiny new kid on the block (OS X). On 22/09/10 11:06 PM, Joshua Juran wrote: When I became a Mac owner (circa System 6), I believed that more INITs equaled more awesome. During my Mac OS 8.1 days I bought Conflict Catcher, and on OS 9 I've simply been picky about what goes in my System Folder. I haven't used any OS X hacks at all since I'm practically paranoid about stability. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
On 22/09/10 19:25PDT, Steven wrote: And also, though apparently many people hated them, I really love the operating system sounds of OS 8 and OS 9. After using one of my old laptops for a while, using Snow Leopard seems startlingly quiet, though there is no way that system sounds could have been transferred to Aqua; all the system sounds would be drips and splashes, which would get annoying much faster than the simple clicks of Platinum. Have you tried Xounds from Unsanity? http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/xounds -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
On 22/09/10 20:18PDT, Midnight rider wrote: NeXTstep was bought out by Apple in the late OS 6 days... if i am correct. No, it was on February 4, 1997 which was right after Mac OS 7.6 had been released. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Midnight rider wrote:
I have been using Macs since the OS 7.5.5 days, and ever since, i
can't stop exploring this ever expanding realm of macs. I have since
grown my collection to 16 Macs, most of them G4 machines and most of
them bought in this year. I do miss the old days when System 7 was
the flagship, so I keep my Power Mac 6100 downstairs along with some
other macs that run OS 7.6, some run OS 7.5.3, others run tiger or
OS 9.1. I use mostly Leopard machines nowadays, but i do keep one
System 7 machine in reach just in case i need to take a trip down
memory lane. I never messed around with NeXTstep too much back in
those days, i stuck with Mac OS and Systems until I ran into
Rhapsody. I installed it on my Power Mac G3 Gossamer, and was
surprised that what used to be NeXTstep all looks like mac os
platinum That was the first time i ever thought that this would
be the base for Mac OS 9.0 or OS 10.
NeXTstep was bought out by Apple in the late OS 6 days... if i am
correct. If Apple was already undergoing plans for OS X in those
days, can imagine Apple making plans already for Mac OS XI 11.0 or
Mac OS 11.
The acquisition of Apple by NeXT occurred in 1997, for the price of
roughly negative $400 million.
or maybe even better,
System 11.
Apple's 'next-generation' operating system was originally supposed to
be Mac OS 8, code-name 'Copland', followed by Mac OS 9 ('Gershwin').
Copland wasn't working out, so they bought NeXT and in the meantime
rebranded Mac OS 7.7 ('Tempo') as Mac OS 8 shipped it with the
Appearance Manager from Copland.
The name 'Rhapsody' is quite possibly a pun. The Classic environment
in developer-speak was called the Blue box (as 'Blue' was the code
name for System 7 and refers to that system through OS 9). The
specific version of Blue that the box would run was OS 9, so you had
Gershwin's Blue in Rhapsody.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhapsody_in_Blue
Josh
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Re: Leopard?
Hmm! http://betaworld.forcedperfect.net/macos104_8a162/ I do actually like the glossy Spotlight icon. The shipping version didn't have the stripes in the menubar anymore. :) -Elliott On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Midnight rider wrote: yes the menu bar in the pre-release of tiger with a glossy menu bar was also my favorite! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
That appears to be a very early version, all Panther except for the Spotlight icon. The version I was referring to is more like the final Tiger menu bar, except with the blue Spotlight icon and a matching spot on the opposite side covering the Apple logo. Apparently it has become incredibly hard to find any pictures of the Tiger pre release version. The closest I can find is a video of Dashboard from the Apple site in mid 2004 (via the Internet Archive): http://web.archive.org/web/20040814085431/www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/theater/dashboard.html By the way, I love that the calculator in that video is displaying 1,337. Steven On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Elliott Price wrote: Hmm! http://betaworld.forcedperfect.net/macos104_8a162/ I do actually like the glossy Spotlight icon. The shipping version didn't have the stripes in the menubar anymore. :) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
