Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Mystic Prowler
Not really. My primary desktop system is an iMac G4 17 1.25Ghz, and my most
powerful is a MBP intel i7 Mid-2010 15, yet i use my iMac more than my MBP.


Using PowerPC is never over... And it will never will be. I am keeping all
of my PowerPC machines, and intels too. I am waiting for Apple to go back to
PowerPC or to abandon intel.

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Al Poulin
On Oct 30, 12:48 am, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is
 off of topic, but oh well.

Maybe to read old, old files and screen shots  from the '90s that
modern software cannot convert or even to see and read.

Al Poulin

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Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/10/29 16:06, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote:

I understand keeping production of faster and faster processors could be
tough, but look at IBM today! The world's first processor running at
4.6Ghz without being overclocked! And it has 32-cores.


The video and BOINC communities can only drool at the thought. But does 
anyone know anything about it's power consumption?


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Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Dennis B. Swaney

On 29/10/10 22:47PDT, Steven wrote:



And, of course, PowerPC computers had much better names. MacBook sounds like 
what a Dell hacked to run OS X should be called, and Mac Pro is even more uninspired. 
PowerBook was one of the best product names of all time and I still can't believe that 
Apple just abandoned it for such an awful name, plus now the grid that Steve Jobs made 
such a big deal over no longer works (sure Mac Pro and MacBook Pro match, but what is 
iMac doing there?).



Well, the alternative choice was IntelBook  ;)

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Re: Strange Glitch in Activity Monitor

2010-10-30 Thread Mystic Prowler
hahahaha! I can imagine what will Apple have to say to that! XD

This is a glitch not real. I can imagine what else is going on my
iMac could be a hologram, my iMac could be a remake of the G4 iMAc from the
future with 16million TB of RAM, who knows? not me... XD

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Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Mystic Prowler
Intelbook? I would keep all of the original names. But really, the new names
sound horrible. I really like all of the old names.

To think of it, the box scheme makes no sense anymore.

the Macbook and the Macbook pro should stay there. The air has to be the new
Macbook or iBook or it has to go. The mac mini has no reason there at all,
the iMac should be the lower end machine. THe mac pro should be the high end
machine and server. They should cut out the Xserve.

I have a feeling of something. Apple is as bad as it was before steve came
back. They have too many product lines, minimizing it's chances of getting
in the cash. One new CEO will rise up and re-innovate the company and remove
the company's many product lines like it had 13 years ago.

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Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Dennis B. Swaney

On 30/10/10 09:39PDT, Mystic Prowler wrote:

Intelbook? I would keep all of the original names. But really, the new
names sound horrible. I really like all of the old names.



Like the Power(pc)Book?


To think of it, the box scheme makes no sense anymore.

the Macbook and the Macbook pro should stay there. The air has to be the
new Macbook or iBook or it has to go. The mac mini has no reason there
at all, the iMac should be the lower end machine. THe mac pro should be
the high end machine and server. They should cut out the Xserve.



The Mac Mini is the low cost entry platform for those switching from 
other platforms. They're used to sub-$1000 computers, and already have a 
monitor, keyboard and mouse.


The Xserve is for those running server farms, not for individual users


I have a feeling of something. Apple is as bad as it was before steve
came back. They have too many product lines, minimizing it's chances of
getting in the cash. One new CEO will rise up and re-innovate the
company and remove the company's many product lines like it had 13 years
ago.



I see the following 3 product lines:

General Macintosh computers.

Server Macintosh computers.

Mobile products.


General Macintosh computers has the following 2 sub-lines:
Professional (MacPro  MacBookPro)
Consumer  (Mac Mini, iMac,  MacBook)
Of course, consumers can buy from the Professional line also.

Server Macintosh computers has the Xserve line  the Mac Mini Server

Mobile Products covers iPod, iPad, and iPhone


If the above minimizes getting in the cash, then how come Apple is now 
the second largest company in the WORLD, in terms of capitalization? 
Only Exxon-Mobil has more cash than Apple.


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Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Mystic Prowler
I mean if Apple moves away from intel and makes it's own processors, this
would cause an uproar in the Windows-intel world. Apple should go to AMD or
make it's own processors.

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Elliott Price
A quick check with Mactracker says that it's not PCI. The 6100 has either a PDS 
slot, or a NuBus slot. Neither of which are compatible with PCI cards. I doubt 
that there ever were any wireless cards made for PDS or Nubus. 


-Elliott




On Oct 29, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote:

 For some strange reason my PC expansion card slots are not accepting 
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 slot, it won't go all the way in. What's happening here? There is no stuff 
 inside, everything is okay, and fine. I need help on this.

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Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Alexander Blok

On 10/30/10 7:07 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote:
I mean if Apple moves away from intel and makes it's own processors, 
this would cause an uproar in the Windows-intel world. Apple should go 
to AMD or make it's own processors. --



Yeah correct, for instance i bought my amd duron pc in 2000 and it's 
still good enough to function in regards pretty much anything.


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Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Dennis B. Swaney

On 30/10/10 10:39PDT, Steven wrote:

On Oct 30, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:


On 30/10/10 09:39PDT, Mystic Prowler wrote:

Intelbook? I would keep all of the original names. But really, the new
names sound horrible. I really like all of the old names.



Like the Power(pc)Book?


1991: Apple introduces the first PowerBook computers
1994: Apple introduces the first Macintosh computers with PowerPC processors
1995: Apple introduces the first PowerBook with a PowerPC processor

The Power in PowerBook has nothing to do with PowerPC and predates the 
PowerPC transition by years. The PowerBook name already spanned two processors, why 
couldn't it continue into the Intel era? My guess is that Steve Jobs wanted to erase 
anything that he didn't create, which is why the only PowerPC names left are iMac and Mac 
Mini.



Probably because Steve realized that PowerBook was irretrievably 
linked to PowerPC. And I should have remembered my PowerBook 145b!


The way things are headed with the MacBook Air and the Mac App Store, 
we'll probably see a new model called the AppleBook or, for short, the 
AppBook


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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Ashgrove
 On Oct 30, 12:48 am, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is
  off of topic, but oh well.

My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can
run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly,
completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla
here), send emails, work, watch movies, listen to music... And it's
perfectly ergonomic for writing, in a way that no newer computer is:
the height, the curvy topcase, the peerless keyboard...

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Mystic Prowler
My oldest machine can't even run Jaguar. My oldest machine is the Powerbook
540c. It has a 33Mhz 68k Motorola 680LC40 processor. This is my VERY fisr
mac with a non-PowerPC processor. Last summer was when I received my first
non- G3-5 based PowerPC 603e machine.

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Oct 30, 12:48 am, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:
   Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this
 is
   off of topic, but oh well.

 My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can
 run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly,
 completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla
 here), send emails, work, watch movies, listen to music... And it's
 perfectly ergonomic for writing, in a way that no newer computer is:
 the height, the curvy topcase, the peerless keyboard...

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Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Mystic Prowler
Let's hope that happens. To be honest, I only want intel to crash and burn
to stop Microsoft  in it's tracks.

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've read it's because they wanted to have mac in all the names. It makes
 SOME sort of sense, but, I mean, come on, people would have to be pretty
 stupid to not know that an iBook is a Mac laptop. iBook sounds way better
 then Macbook. :P

 I personally don't care that much what kind of processor I have. Sure, I
 would prefer it not be Intel, but I've been using my Intel iMac for 3 yrs
 now, and it's plenty fast and powerful for graphic design, web design,
 photoshop, etc. I think it's inevitable that Apple switch away from the
 Intel processors. They're so big now, that it doesn't make sense to be tied
 to another giant company, and with what we've seen with them developing the
 A4, it'll probably lead to them developing their own processors for the Mac.


-Elliott




 On Oct 30, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Steven wrote:

  My guess is that Steve Jobs wanted to erase anything that he didn't
 create, which is why the only PowerPC names left are iMac and Mac Mini.

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Steven
On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ashgrove wrote:

 My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can
 run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly,
 completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla
 here), send emails, work, watch movies, listen to music... And it's
 perfectly ergonomic for writing, in a way that no newer computer is:
 the height, the curvy topcase, the peerless keyboard...

I recently got a PDQ (although for me it is the newest in my old mac 
collection) and I was amazed at how useful it is. All of my old Mac laptops are 
usable for certain things, and my PowerBook 3400c almost approaches being 
useful as an everyday laptop if it weren't for the low resolution screen and 
slow processor. The PDQ, on the other hand, can handle many things, like basic 
web browsing, iTunes, QuickTime videos, and even competent multimedia editing 
when using old versions of photoshop or iMovie. I've been using it to take 
notes in college, since the lack of wireless capability reduces potential 
distractions and most of the time I don't need my PowerBook G4 in class.

I'm a big believer in the usefulness of old computers. My PowerBook 145b has 
one of the most comfortable laptop keyboards I have ever used, and my Apple //c 
has taught me more about programming than any modern tutorials, though Basic is 
certainly not as useful as some of the more modern languages.

Steven

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Re: New Mac platform

2010-10-30 Thread Steven
On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote:

 Let's hope that happens. To be honest, I only want intel to crash and burn to 
 stop Microsoft  in it's tracks.

Based on Apple's history, that could easily happen. Back in the Motorola days 
IBM was Apple's biggest competitor, and after Motorola couldn't keep up any 
more they switched to IBM. Now IBM is a rotting shell of the company that 
introduced the IBM PC, so they move on to Intel. I don't think Apple will 
destroy Intel (after all, IBM processors are still used in several game 
consoles), but either way they will probably switch to a new processor 
somewhere around 2014 to 2018 (they have switched every decade like clockwork, 
from 6502 to 68k in 1984, 68k to PowerPC in 1994, and PowerPC to Intel in 
2006), but by then there could be a die hard Intel crowd just like the PowerPC 
crowd of today and the Motorola crowd of the 1990s.

Personally, I hope that Apple will use the resources of P.A. Semi and what they 
have learned from the A4 to return to RISC, and since P.A. Semi was working on 
Power Architecture designs I don't think that is an unreasonable prediction. 
Technically it won't be PowerPC, but it would have all the benefits without the 
problems with the G5 (they were working on powerful yet efficient processors) 
and it would be designed by Apple, so that's good enough for me.

Steven

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Mystic Prowler
I agree with steven. I also believe in older computers, and sometimes I
bring in my PB 5300cs for reminders, notes, phone numbers, and song names.

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Steven macintosh.awes...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ashgrove wrote:

  My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can
  run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly,
  completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla
  here), send emails, work, watch movies, listen to music... And it's
  perfectly ergonomic for writing, in a way that no newer computer is:
  the height, the curvy topcase, the peerless keyboard...

 I recently got a PDQ (although for me it is the newest in my old mac
 collection) and I was amazed at how useful it is. All of my old Mac laptops
 are usable for certain things, and my PowerBook 3400c almost approaches
 being useful as an everyday laptop if it weren't for the low resolution
 screen and slow processor. The PDQ, on the other hand, can handle many
 things, like basic web browsing, iTunes, QuickTime videos, and even
 competent multimedia editing when using old versions of photoshop or iMovie.
 I've been using it to take notes in college, since the lack of wireless
 capability reduces potential distractions and most of the time I don't need
 my PowerBook G4 in class.

 I'm a big believer in the usefulness of old computers. My PowerBook 145b
 has one of the most comfortable laptop keyboards I have ever used, and my
 Apple //c has taught me more about programming than any modern tutorials,
 though Basic is certainly not as useful as some of the more modern
 languages.

 Steven

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 30, 4:13 pm, Steven macintosh.awes...@gmail.com wrote:
 I recently got a PDQ (although for me it is the newest in my old mac 
 collection) and I was amazed at how useful it is. All of my old Mac laptops 
 are usable for certain things, and my PowerBook 3400c almost approaches being 
 useful as an everyday laptop if it weren't for the low resolution screen and 
 slow processor. The PDQ, on the other hand, can handle many things, like 
 basic web browsing, iTunes, QuickTime videos, and even competent multimedia 
 editing when using old versions of photoshop or iMovie. I've been using it to 
 take notes in college, since the lack of wireless capability reduces 
 potential distractions and most of the time I don't need my PowerBook G4 in 
 class.

The only drawback of the Wallstreet is that it weighs a ton and a
half. Personally, though, I don't really mind the weight that much --I
used to have a Macbook and a 17 PowerBook, and I would always left
the MB home and lug the PB around. And I simply love the sheer
solidness of it --it's like the Sherman tank of laptops.

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Re: docking

2010-10-30 Thread Elliott Price
Launch the app from the finder, then right-click the icon in the dock and under 
Options, select Keep In Dock.


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 Dock other then dragging it to the Dock ? Most of time I don't get it into 
 the dock and it ends up on the desk top.
 

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Malcolm O'Brien

Oh, was it?  Because that's not how I remember it.


I knew someone would say that.
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Topic: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-30 Thread Run Vzel
Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a feeling of something. Apple is as bad as it was before steve came
 back. They have too many product lines, minimizing it's chances of getting
 in the cash. One new CEO will rise up and re-innovate the company and remove
 the company's many product lines like it had 13 years ago.


You're serious?  Minimizing its chances of getting in the cash?  It has over
53 billion cash in the bank and a market cap second only to Exxon, its stock
has risen over 3000 percent in less than 10 years, and you are complaining
about Steve's direction?

Yeah, you're an expert.

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