Re: iMac G3 Snow—equivalent to original optical drive
Alex, try www.otherworldcomputing.com If they don't have a new piece that works, they would have refurbished to think about--maybe. -OR- lowendmac.com, and ask them about your iMac G3. On Feb 17, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Alex Santos santos.pol...@gmail.com wrote: Dear users I have an iMac G3 Snow. I would like to purchase a new optical drive that behaves the same way as the original and could physically fit in the drive bay. I am not interested in finding an Apple branded drive as they would likely all be used/refurbed, have a short warranty and likely cost too much. I don't want an external device. Before I forget, it should be able to boot my original discs, OS9 OSX retail. Are equivalent drives still made today that I can purchase? I would sincerely appreciate any guidance. Thank you very much! Alex -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: G4 Flat Panel DVD drive
I have a 20 G4 that I maxed the RAM out in, and installed a new DVD-RW into. You can get the DVD-RW at Newegg for about $12.00 and the RAM you can max out to 2GB with 1 GB RAM strips. You can get that from them too. Now, I'm not sure if your 17 can go up to 2GB RAM or not. There's a free program called MacTracker that'll look-up your exact iMac model and tell you the max you can go to. Then on iFixIt.com, you can find directions for doing the surgery... but it sounds like you've already been in there, so this should be a walk in the park. With the new DVD-RW, you'll really be able to utilize the Mac and have some fun with it. Good Luck--God Bless! On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 23, 2012, at 3:44 PM, MacBob61 macbo...@cox.net wrote: I recently picked up a nice iMac Flat Panel G4 700MHz. This came with the CD-RW drive. Since I wanted to be able to use DVDs (and also install Leopard), I replaced the CD-RW drive with a DVD-ROM drive from one of my old PCs. It actually works very well, with a couple of very minor exceptions: 1) The drive is completely invisible (and therefore unusable) in Disk Utility. 2) The eject.menu icon in the menu bar shows No Drives when attempting to eject. The Disk Utility issue hasn't proven to be a problem yet. But, if the Eject key on my keyboard ever died, the 2nd issue could become a problem. Anyway, does anyone have any ideas as to why these issues exist? Yep, set the jumper to CS (cable select) and you should be in business. Confirm that setting by looking at the jumper setting on the CDRW you removed. If that doesn't work, you may have a cross-platform compatibility issue, which is not surprising given the age of the hardware. Jim Scott Eureka, CA -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281.467.5366 281.586.9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 266 Bondi (Rev. C) Question
According to MacTracker, there was no Bondi Blue @ 266. There was a Grape @ 266, but Bondi's only came in 233, and went only to revision B... unless they had an accelerator card put in a 233 like I did in mine back in '98. On May 1, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Gary Fortman wrote: Bondi blue is only rev A Not rare at all Value is minimal Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Matthew Gill mgill...@gmail.com wrote: I stumbled across an iMac G3 Bondi-Blue (tray loader, sans Infrared on the front)... from what I understand, this is considered a Rev. C model. Are these rare? Are they of any value? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His Will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade HD for g3
That Maxtor will work, but why not go for a 7200rpm and up to a 120gb hdd? OWC has a 160gb hdd @ 7200rpm for $83.00. Here's the link. http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/Search.cfm? Ntk=PrimaryNs=P_Popularity%7c1Ne=5000N=6900Ntt=3.5+Internal+IDE% 2fATA If you iMac has a 5400 in it now, a 7200 will seem like such a speed demon, not to mention todays technology and data caches will make even a 5400 seem faster than the old technology that what's in there now. If you are going to go to the trouble of the major surgery your talking about, go as big and fast as you can. You may even want to replace your DVD burner with a DVDRW... you can get those for just a few dollars--then you could not only watch DVD's, but record them too. GOOD LUCK MERRY CHRISTMAS! On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:34 AM, r_poetic wrote: Hello, while some earlier posts have touched on upgrading g3 iMac's, I just wanted to pose my specific question. I want to replace the 10 G hard drive on this 400MH slot load with something bigger and faster. I believe there is no point in going above 128 G, and no faster than 5200rpm. There aren't a lot of drives for sale now that fit that. If it's ok to mention names, I wondered if this item, Maxtor 80 GB 5400 rpm IDE ATA/133 2MB Cache 3.5 Internal Hard Drive, would likely work for me? or other advice? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His Will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Corrupted Files?
This may sound too simplistic, but have you added any fonts lately? If so, or if not, you may have a corrupt font(s), which if a previously good document goes bad, it could be signs of corrupt fonts. I hope this isn't the problem, because this is very difficult and time consuming to alleviate. Just a thought. On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Thanks to John and Jim for their response!!! What I've done since my first post: Ran disk utilities. Found 1 permission error in an iTunes directory. Repaired that. Verify disk reported no errors. Then I nuked and reinstalled just the OS (10.6). Tried to update to 10.6.8. Cannot expand the file. The file may have been corrupted Re-nuked and reinstalled just the OS. Tried to update from a file downloaded on another computer. Cannot expand the file. The file may have been corrupted Re-nuked and reinstalled just the OS. Ran Drive Genius 3 verify. Disk appears to be okay. DG 3 scan found no bad blocks. Re-nuked and reinstalled the OS. Restored from the earliest Time Machine Backup. Still the same problems. Ran Disk Warrior 4.3. Smart status was okay. There were directory errors… rebuilt and replaced. There were file errors reported, but I'm not sure what DW did about them. Still the same problems. Files are corrupted or have invalid checksums. I dunno!?!?! Amanda On Nov 19, 2011, at 9:50 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote: On Nov 19, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi All… Recently I've had problems with files I've downloaded not opening because the file is corrupted or has an invalid checksum. Also found files that I've downloaded in the past and successfully installed are now corrupted, etc, etc… Most recently the backlog of updates from software update have failed to open. I have no clue of what is causing this. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Amanda Model Name: iMac Model Identifier: iMac8,1 Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz Number of Processors: 1 Total Number of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 6 MB Memory:4 GB Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version: IM81.00C1.B00 SMC Version (system): 1.29f1 OS 10.7.1 To begin with I'd run permissions repair and DiskWarrior just to get that out of the way. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His Will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Bwahahahaha!!!
So does this mean that you can run Classic on an Intel iMac? Is that what I'm understanding here? Are you kidding? On Mar 9, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I'll take a moment of mad doctor exhultation: I succeeded in getting OS X 10.4 running on my new 27 iMac! http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/shipinabottleinabottle.png :-) I got PearPC running in a Windows 7 Virtualbox VM. I used this package: http://www.pearpc.net/pearpc_net_package.php Some gotchas: If you have mouse integration turned on in VirtualBox, the mouse in PearPC flat out won't work; you have to turn it off. The G4 processor option worked during the install, but PearPC would crash every time trying to boot from the installed system. Changing that to a G3 emulation fixed it. The initial OS X install dialog, where you choose the language, for some reason did not display the icon to continue; hitting enter made it work. Networking does not work currently, but that's because networking needs tun/tap virtual network interface system installed. http://openvpn.se/development.html I'll have to play with it a bit. It appears you cannot compile PearPC under Xcode because it doesn't like the assembler bits; you can compile it, but the just-in-time compiler port of PearPC, responsible for much of it's speed, has to be excluded. This makes the emulated system exceedingly slow. As it is, it feels like about a 450-500 mhz smurf to me right now; given that this is a 2.93 Ghz quad-core i7 with 8 gigs of RAM, that should give you an idea how it might work on your system. I'm now going to investigate if I might not have a more efficient host for the PearPC, looking for a lighter-weight Linux host in VirtualBox and see if I can't get the performance up a wee bit. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G4 Adding RAM+HDD+SuperDrive... Tips?
GOOD MORNING LISTERS! In my 20 iMac G4 USB2... this past weekend I added a 500gb, 7200 RPM HDD, and a Samsung 22X DVD-RW, and 2 sticks of 1gb each RAM, and a new Battery (1/2AA, 3.6v). All went very well. The parts were purchased on NewEgg.com. I thought about OWC, but some of the exact same parts were about 10 to 20% higher than NewEgg. Like the DVD was $32 @ OWC, but $18 @ NewEgg. The RAM chips were exactly the same price with the same warranty. NewEgg's price on the HDD was also lower... $96.00 (OWC) vs $80.00 (NewEgg). It was relatively easy, as advice obtained on this list, as well as the actual instructions with pictures from Accelerate Your Mac... http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/iMac_g4/imacg4_takeapart.html, made the job go smoothly and without any surprises. One thing that was really stressed was using Thermal Paste on the parts that require it, and of course, grounding yourself to avoid static shock syndrome. Of note... the 160gb HDD that was in the iMac G4 20 USB2 was a Seagate 7200 IDE set to Cable Select. The DVD Drive that came out (Apple Super-Drive) was also set to Cable Select. My sincerest Thanks to Tina and Jim for their step-by-step help in this undertaking. Thanks to the powers that be to have a tremendous list such as this! GOD BLESS - HAVE A OUTSTANDING WEEK! On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Tina K. wrote: J. R. Rosen wrote: Good Afternoon Happy Weekend to All!!! Thanks X 1000 = a thousand Thanks for your help, suggestions, hints and ideas! My 20 iMac USB2 is now the proud owner of a 24x DVD-RW, with 2gb RAM, AND a 500gb HDD! It was all thanks to the tremendous help from Tina and Jim! Thanks again thanks to all on this list! Congratulations, I'm glad that it went well and that the list could be of service to you. Enjoy your 'new' Mac! Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His Will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G4 Adding RAM+HDD+SuperDrive... Tips?
Good Afternoon Happy Weekend to All!!! Thanks X 1000 = a thousand Thanks for your help, suggestions, hints and ideas! My 20 iMac USB2 is now the proud owner of a 24x DVD-RW, with 2gb RAM, AND a 500gb HDD! It was all thanks to the tremendous help from Tina and Jim! Thanks again thanks to all on this list! GOD BLESS - ENJOY YOUR WEEKEND! J R Rosen 281.467.5366 jrose...@sbcglobal.net dillo...@armadillo-press.com +++ Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. +++ Proverbs 3:5-6 Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:01 PM, J. R. Rosen wrote: As far as the thermal paste, I have heard not to over-do putting it on, but there needs to be enough the seat the parts together for proper cooling. And to definitely not block the cooling shafts that are in those blocks, or pads that conduct the cooling. The thermal paste I purchased is GELID Solutions Thermal Compound. The feedback from purchasers was really good, so I chose this as it comes with a little spatula to spread the compound. Any secrets in applying the paste to where it doesn't seep into the cooling ducts? I haven't opened it up yet, waiting for the parts and the time, so I don't know how big or small those duct holes are. I guess you could roll-up a small piece of paper and put it in the hole, then let it expand to size, then paint the paste around that. I don't know, but am open to your learned suggestions. Yep, just a little dab of the thermal paste will be all you need. And don't worry about cooling ducts. There's no such thing where the thermal paste is applied. What you will see when you take the bottom case away from the top (pull it gently toward you and then rotate it down from the top, and make sure the optical drive door is rotated to the right about 90 degrees first) is that you have to disconnect a bunch of cables and wires in order to separate the bottom part with the logic board, etc. from the top or dome part. Note carefully how all those cables are routed before you start disconnecting them. Be warned that in your model it is difficult to remove the video cable from the logic board. Why? There is a black cap over the actual connector which keeps the connector firmly in place. It is glued to the logic board with sticky tape-type stuff. You have to carefully pry the black cap up and off the board without damaging anything around it before you can disconnect the video cable. My advice would be to disconnect everything *but* that video cable, then put a wadded up towel or something similar under the logic board assembly to take the stress off the video cable. You may have to rotate the dome part to get the right and least stressful position. You'll find that will give you enough space to get to everything, and you'll save yourself a major headache and prevent posssible damage. With the bottom of the computer resting on the towel, look at where the four T-15 bolts come through the bottom case. You will see that the bolts go right through the two pads where old thermal pads/paste/film needs to be removed and replaced. You will not see any cooling ducts. You will see an enclosed cooling pipe leading from the cpu area over to both pads. That pipe is filled with a material that facilitates rapid transfer of heat. So don't worry about using anything more than a small ball of thermal paste on each pad. Spread it thinly until each pad surface is coated. Keep in mind that only a very thin coat is needed to fill the microscopic hills and valleys of the two mating surfaces on each pad. Enjoy! -- Jim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
iMac G4 Adding RAM+HDD+SuperDrive... Tips?
GOOD AFTERNOON FELLOW LISTERS! Got a 20 G4 (USB2) iMac the other day, and am going to put in 2 sticks-O-RAM (1gb + 1gb). So while I was in there, I thought I'd add a 500gb HDD and a 24x DVD RW. That's about as far as you can carry upgrades, as it already has bluetooth and wifi. I have printed the article on Accelerate Your Mac about the do's and don'ts, and I've been following the latest posts about the thermal paste. My question is... as y'all have been actively inside the G4 dome (Jim and Tina), are there any tips, tricks, or other nuances you could throw my way to help me through this endeavor? Any: if I had only know about that then kind of things, or is it pretty straight-forward? Thanks so much for all the posts, and all the help! J. R. Rosen jrose...@sbcglobal.net 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 fax + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His Will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G4 Adding RAM+HDD+SuperDrive... Tips?
WOW! Tina and Jim... you are simply amazing! The Optical Drive (ODD), HDD and the RAM were from OWC, so I believe they'll fit. GREAT tip on the Battery, dust-bunnies, and the pillow on the neck! (I need a pillow on my neck too!) I thought about the battery, but got side-tracked, so this got me refocused! I will lift the bottom as suggested as I will be generating more heat with the 7200rpm HDD. Raising it up should allow more air-flow. But aren't the new drives being made now running much cooler than they used to? I thought I recalled somewhere that the new large drives are actually running cooler than the 5400's of long ago. Ah, maybe my mind is trying to let me think the things the way I want them to be... or something like that. As far as the thermal paste, I have heard not to over-do putting it on, but there needs to be enough the seat the parts together for proper cooling. And to definitely not block the cooling shafts that are in those blocks, or pads that conduct the cooling. The thermal paste I purchased is GELID Solutions Thermal Compound. The feedback from purchasers was really good, so I chose this as it comes with a little spatula to spread the compound. Any secrets in applying the paste to where it doesn't seep into the cooling ducts? I haven't opened it up yet, waiting for the parts and the time, so I don't know how big or small those duct holes are. I guess you could roll-up a small piece of paper and put it in the hole, then let it expand to size, then paint the paste around that. I don't know, but am open to your learned suggestions. I just want to thank you both for taking the time out of your precious day to really go through everything! I'll say it again... y'all are simply amazing! THANKS - GOD BLESS - HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Jim Scott wrote: On Aug 26, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Tina K. wrote: J. R. Rosen wrote: Got a 20 G4 (USB2) iMac the other day, and am going to put in 2 sticks-O-RAM (1gb + 1gb). So while I was in there, I thought I'd add a 500gb HDD and a 24x DVD RW. That's about as far as you can carry upgrades, as it already has bluetooth and wifi. I have printed the article on Accelerate Your Mac about the do's and don'ts, and I've been following the latest posts about the thermal paste. My question is... as y'all have been actively inside the G4 dome (Jim and Tina), are there any tips, tricks, or other nuances you could throw my way to help me through this endeavor? Any: if I had only know about that then kind of things, or is it pretty straight-forward? One think to keep in mind right off the bat is that an ODD much, or possibly any, larger than the OEM unit will not fit into the carrier. I believe it was a Pioneer 106 that Apple put in those machines but I could be mistaken. Also the stock HDD is a 5200 RPM unit so if you install a 7200 RPM drive there will be more heat generated, you will probably want to keep the inlet outlet clean and hopefully keep it in a cool environment. Dis/reassembly is pretty straight forward. The outer user cover is a no brainer but be careful with the inner factory cover as it houses the MoBo and has several wires and cables attached to it. The first gen G4s had a cable that ran to the ODD/carrier that often broke upon disassembly but Apple corrected that on the USB 2 models. You will want to keep an eye on the Airport antenna wire during dis/reassembly too. Oh, and of course don't ruin all your work with a static jolt! Get all the dust bunnies out while you're in there. Replace the 1/2 AA clock battery with a new one, unless the one in there tests at 3.6 volts or slightly higher. Pay attention to the jumper settings on the optical disk drive (ODD) and hard disk drive (HDD). Set the new ones the same way, but be prepared to open it up again and reset them. I've set new ODDs and HDDs the same way as Apple did, only to find that some manufacturers' products don't always behave the same way as original equipment. Be aware that there are two different physical sizes of RAM sticks, with the longer 184-pin PC2700 stick mounted in a logic board slot and the shorty 200-pin PC 2700 SODIMM in the bottom user-accessible slot. If you can't find PC2700, PC3200 also will work. In fact, I've found PC3200 sticks that were installed in G4 Macs by Apple that were advertised as having PC2700 memory. Replace the thermal paste or pads with new top-quality thermal paste before you put it back together. Apple specifies using a T-15 Torx bit on the four case bolts, and that they should be torqued to 17 inch-pounds. I use my automotive tools to do that, but I've also successfully used a T-15 screwdriver and really cranked down on those bolts. Whatever you do, make sure those bolts are so tight that you can't easily loosen them by hand. That should be enough torque to clamp
