Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Chuck Hutton
Not a replacement for intelligence?

Better tell that to the many posters on the broadcasting industry e-lists.
When you convince them they are not intelligent, then could you explain why
they would care about a few DX'ers using the same acronym?

What I think you have proved is that one person didn't understand an
acronym. Not a bit more. I'll grant you some people who care to discuss IBOC
won't know what IBAC means, but is that a problem?

Dunno what professionals you speak of, but there are 2 people on this list
who have professional engineering involvement in IBOC technology: Barry and
(formerly) me. Since you can claim to know us, you're down to the
professionals you know minus 2.


Chuck 

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Whatever Barry. None of the professionals that I know call a hot dog a
hamburger, they don't call milk beer, they don't call a chicken a duck,
and they don't call IBOC IBAC. IBAC might better describe the reality of
it. All I am saying is that is not the name of it. And this is obviously
confusing to people as was demonstrated earlier today. It's like saying
I'm going to call my Ford a Chevy because to me it acts more like a
Chevy. But me calling it a Chevy doesn't make it so. When I take it in
for repairs and insist that it's a Chevy, the mechanic is going to be
confused. That's all I'm saying. Fun is fun. But it isn't a replacement
for intelligence.

Patrick Griffith, Westminster CO
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Re: [IRCA] Re WDCD IBAC Canada

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
Yeah it used to be WPTR and is in Albany, it's probably spreading it's 
beautiful sidebands up there also at night, I know it is here.

Bob Young
Analog, MA
KB1OKL


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  Maybe I missed it in an earlier post but another
question is ,Did anybody mention where WDCD is.As far
as I know,it is what used to be my favourite
night-time Rocker WPTR 1540 in Albany NY,covering the
northeast from almost to Detroit to probably St.John'S
NF.( including New Brunswick),And then,what's the IBAC
or IBOC have to with WDCD or Canada or WDCD with
Canada,I'm puzzled with the whole thing.---Bill in BC


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[IRCA] God and Texas

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
I think our present ahem... president has knocked some of the lustre from 
Texas, I think God moved to a different state a few years ago, certainly not 
to MA though,

Bob Young
Millbury, MA


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Ira wrote-

  There you go again with the typos Willis. You mistakenly typed Texas 
after
  God's country when you clearly meant to type Georgia. South Georgia to 
be
  exact, but the rest of the state ain't bad either.

No, no typo's. Texas and God are two words that good together, like Texas
peaches and cream. It is hard to say one without saying the other. No typo,
just repeating what God has taught me.

BTW, I have a ole navy buddy that lives in Hahira, Ga. I been to his house,
and south Georgia isn't much brag about.

Willis

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Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Barry,

I agree. I do think some CEs that are touchy about negative comments on
IBOC (In Band On Channel), know very well it is flawed from the very
beginning. When one engineer told me It was crap off the record, he
went on to say that he had to install it as his bosses told him to. He
has to keep his job. But I have talked to few engineers that had
anything good to say about IBOC. 

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] WKRC in Cincinnati

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
WBCN FM's Charles Laquidara's alter ego Dwight Ingalls Glasscock instigated 
a dog poop drop on the govenor's mansions's lawn here during the late 70's. 
Another time he went on this long spiel about how DJ's sometimes have to go 
to the bathroom and never mention it on the air but he was going to admit 
it, bla bla bla, and he would be gone for a few minutes and was going to 
play a few commercials while he was gone, he did... all at the same time.


Bob Young
Millbury, MA

Gordon Jump, who
 played Arthur Carlson, is also quoted as saying that his character was
 based on a real person at WQXI and that person is the one who actually
 orchestrated the infamous turkey drop when he worked for another radio
 station in Texas.
 
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Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Gentlemen,

Maybe it is time we move on. The comments from some are getting close to
insulting. IBOC or IBAC? Who cares. To me it is all noise!  Whatever
happens, happens. We have no control over it. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Good day ! Super Radio

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Bob,

That was a great buy! $5 each. I have the Super Radio 1 and 2. I think
the selectivity on the 2 might be a hair sharper, but the sensitivity on
the 1  is a hair better, but it might be alignment too. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Patrick:

Your one liner below said it all, perfectly. Well done!

Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Operations Manager/Program Director
WABV-AM 1590 Abbeville, South Carolina
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  Whatever happens, happens. We have no control over it.

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Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
I'm going to whine every chance I get and not apologize for it either. IBAC 
is legitimate stuff for a DX club, it's ruining our hobby and maybe all of 
the AM band which is much more than just a hobby. Are we to stick our heads 
in the sand and pretend nothing's wrong? If the emperor has no clothes, are 
we to just shut our eyes?


Bob Young
Whineston, MA
KB1OKL

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Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 22:14:38 -0400

I'm going to piss some people off, but...

I don't like IBOC, iBAC, IBUZZ or whatever it's called anymore then the 
rest
of you do, but we all need to realize it's going to happen. DX'ing is just 
a
hobby, not a way of life. we just need to atop whining, grow up, adjust
with the changing times and move on..

Instead of complaining about how bad IBOC is, why don't some of you try and
do something about it? Not like it'll really help anyways, as IBOC's
success is politiclaly and financially motivated by the big corporations
and big politicians.

Paul Walker
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Re: [IRCA] Good day ! Super Radio

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
Less than 5.00 Paul, I remember paying 3 dollars for one and maybe 2 or 3 
for the other, this was within a few Weeks of each other too.

Bob Young
Millbury, MA
KB1OKL

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Bob,

That was a great buy! $5 each. I have the Super Radio 1 and 2. I think
the selectivity on the 2 might be a hair sharper, but the sensitivity on
the 1  is a hair better, but it might be alignment too.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Bob,

Complaining about IBOC is one thing, but when people start saying things
that are insulting, is another. So many times in the past, innocent
comments on IBOC have resulted in really nasty e mails from some. Things
are going in that direction again.  But again, complain or not complain,
we have no control over it. 
I don't like it anymore that anyone. Even last Fall with DU/TP DX in the
mornings after 0600 Pacific Time, when the Californians turned on the
noise, it was quite upsetting when you are trying to hear a signal from
China on 729 (IBOC hash from 740 KCBS), and other channels too. 729 was
one the worst. I have an idea this coming Fall will be worse. But again,
the only thing we can do is to wait it out. Most feel that IBOC will go
(at least on AM) in time. So we wait it out.  

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Good day ! Super Radio

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Bob,

Maybe I should start going back to yard sales again. I used to go a lot,
but I packed too many things home. hi.

73,

Patrick 

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[IRCA] 970 Question ?

2007-05-06 Thread The Kaskey Family
The other night I stopped on 970 for a bit  found a Fox Sports Net
station atop.  Who is this?  Last I heard KESP in Modesto was ESPN
Sports NetHas Portland or Bakersfield switched to FSN?  Just
curious.  Never heard FSN on 970 in the last few years.

Don Kaskey
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Re: [IRCA] 970 Question ?

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Don,

I think Portland is using Fox Sports as I have heard it on there at
times too. But I have only heard it in the evenings.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Milspec390
Bob  -
 
  You and me, many others as well, are 'whining' and will continue to do so.
 
These bugs can't handle truth. They face rampant consumer apathy and 
broadcaster ire for jamming. Like rapists who demand victims not call cops, 
they now 
try to violate our First Ammendment rights? How very tedious of them.
 
Aren't they obtuse? They just galvanized our resolve
 
They don't like objections? They started this by jamming. They served notice 
of bad faith by lying about it. Now, they try to violate our free expression?  
Talk about desperate

Dr. Zecchino's Rx for IBACabal's Angst: 1.Stop jamming. 2.Talk Straight. 
3.Get lost.
 
 Consumers aren't idiots.  Why does IBACabal apparently believe they are?. 
 
Traffic Texting as a great innovation? A radio you stare at for traffic 
reports?

As one writer - not the undersigned - stated, 'we have plenty of traffic 
reports as it is.'
 
A dirtbag Naples, Florida, lawyer threatened to sue me for publicly 
expressing truth about millions unlawfully diverted and people dead before 
their time. 
Big mistake. Don't like the truth? Dr. Zecchino has a remedy:
 
Real radio men, as with real news editors, would reply thusly: 'Oh, you're 
insulted by what you read in today's paper? Good. Be sure to read tomorrows, 
we're rewriting it - just for you.
 
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Pietsch

2007-05-06 Thread Tim Hall
We just read the news.  Our prayers go out to his family, especially
strength for his wife Maria.  Fighting cancer is exhausting for the whole
family.  Thank the Lord he had a faithful wife by his side to help him.

Tim, Karen, and Tim Sr. Hall
on the road in Charlotte, NC


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 Proudly Serving You Since 1964!

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 Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 09:46:46 -0700
 
 As Art Blair has notified some of you, we received the startling news of
 the passing of Bob Pietsch yesterday (Thu. May 3, 2007).  Bob's wife,
 Maria, sent me an e-mail yesterday evening but unfortunately I was not
 at home last night and did not read my e-mails until a few minutes ago.
 
 Bob notified me several weeks ago that he had a recurrence of Cancer
 (type unspecified) and was to begin treatments again.  He had
 successfully fought off one bout of Cancer several years ago.  He told
 me this was a different type of Cancer and asked me not to tell anyone.
 I received an e-mail from Maria a few days ago that Bob was in the
 hospital as he had an adverse reaction to some of the drugs he was now
 taking.  Apparently Bob's body could not adapt or recover from this
 treatment.
 
 Bob  I go back a long long way.  He was one of the first dxers I met
 when I resumed the hobby in California in the mid 60s.  We started the
 well known ERBA (El Rancho Bar/Beverage Association) and attended
 several conventions together as well as many personal visits.  Bob was a
 lifetime member of IRCA.  I'm not positive of his age but I'd guess
 about 65/66.  He  Maria were married not long before Eloise  I said
 our vows in 1976.  They have two adult children, Bryan  Tracy.
 
 We will miss our buddy tremendously.  Maria asked that I notify the dx
 clubs.  When I am able to talk with her I will see whether she will
 authorize giving out her e-mail address should anyone wish to
 correspondence personally with her.
 
 I have to stop.  My tears are interfering with my typing.
 
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 San Francisco CA
 
 
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[IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Geralyn Hollerman
Folks,
All that needs to be said on this thread has been said. Let's move on - and
keep it DX-related. NO MORE POSTS ON THIS THREAD!

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Re: [IRCA] Need help with old logging KGLM

2007-05-06 Thread C B
Hi Doug,

There is a KGLN in Glenwood Springs, CO on 980 kHz.
That might be possible from MT.

73

Craig Barnes
Wondervu, CO.

--- doug martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi.  From a 1993 band scan in Montana, I have a
 notation of a station KGLM 
 which I can't match up to anything current.  Does
 anybody know what station 
 this might be?
 Also, I'll likely do some DX-ing from Buffalo Wy
 soon, and want to know if 
 anyone has a band scan from that area?
 Thanks,
 Doug Martin
 
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[IRCA] WKRP, wherever it is

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor


I hope we leave WKRP behind as a topic. It's a
bit disgusting as it obviously stands for crap,
and that's just another vulgarism we don't need
on this List.

Please, DROP IT!

Charles 


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[IRCA] Texas versus the Universe

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
At 12:45 AM 5/6/2007 -0400, you wrote:
  I beg your pardon!
 
  Here in New Mexico, we have a saying: Poor New Mexico. So far from
  Heaven, so close to Texas...
Sounds like that would a good thing. Your cloes to paradise.

That saying is not original to Nuevo México. In fact, it COULD be the
national slogan of México: Poor México, so far from God, so close to
the US.



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[IRCA] Paul B writes an e-mail w/out a typo!

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
At 02:44 AM 5/6/2007 -0400, you wrote:
Patrick:

Your one liner below said it all, perfectly. Well done!

Paul B. Walker, Jr.

Operations Manager/Program Director/Janitor/Bottle Washer/
Bathroom Cleaner/Sody-Pop Machine Raider
WABV-AM 1590 Abbeville, South Carolina


Way to go, Paul!

I KNEW you could type an e-mail without a typo!

I KNEW that one glorious, beautiful day you would
gouge a whole message out without mis-spelling something.

Now, let's go pick on Willis da Monk!

CATman


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[IRCA] DX logging: WESR-1330 Onley, Virginia

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
1330  WESR   VA  Onley-Onancock: 5/6 @ 0910. Heard with
  promos for programs later today (or so
  it sounded), and then an emphatic On
  Thirteen-Thirty, W E S R. Poor with
  much QRM from WBTM VA and others. Semi-
  local WANG, Havelock back off again.
  Used to hear WESR often 1986 - 2001,
  now it's unusual. (CAT-NC)


Charles A Taylor, WD4INP
Greenville, North Carolina 


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Re: [IRCA] WKRP, wherever it is

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
Charles,

You're the first one that even hinted at that, haha! That would have never 
even entered my mind if you had not brought it up. Too many Chief Engineers, 
not enough operators on this list,

Bob Young
Cinncinatti, MA
KB1OKL

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I hope we leave WKRP behind as a topic. It's a
bit disgusting as it obviously stands for crap,
and that's just another vulgarism we don't need
on this List.

Please, DROP IT!

Charles


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Re: [IRCA] Good day ! Super Radio

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
I very rarely go Patrick, was just a coincidense, one of them was two houses 
from my parents house and my wife wanted to walk up so I went along and 
found one for three dollars. The other again I think my wife wanted to stop 
and I found another one for almost nothing. I'm hoping to find a 390A soon, 
hi! I do always scan them from my car as I drive by though, never know what 
you'll see.

Bob Young
Millbury, MA


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Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 00:01:38 -0700

Bob,

Maybe I should start going back to yard sales again. I used to go a lot,
but I packed too many things home. hi.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Re ICRA 37-26-8 GE Supers

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Bill,

I used to own a Norelco 17 transistor portable, about the same size as
the super radio back in the 60s. A dandy analog radio with AM, FM, and
two SW bands. It went bad and I never could get it fixed. I sure wish I
had it now. It even pulled in TAs from over the Pole up there with an
outside longwire. I think it was made in Norway as I remember. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Good day ! Super Radio

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Bob,

I thought about buying an R 390 a few times some years back, but after
my neighbor put in the electic fencing for the cattle, I knew the
handwriting was on the wall using any radio w/o a noise blanker. That is
why I got rid of the SP-600. All three of my receivers have noise
blankers (R8,SPR4, and R-1000). Other than that, my noise level here is
very low. The noise blankers do take out the impulse noise of the
clicking of the fence. Sometimes the noise is quite low and other times
more noisy. It varies a bit by the weather. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Good day ! Super Radio

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
Actually the noise blanker in my 390A works very good, much better than the 
older radios I have, for example flourescent buzz is almost eliminated with 
no corresponding distortion like the older radios. I don't know if it's 
still a pos-neg peak clipper like the older ones but if it is it is a much 
improved version. I never even use it in the SP-600 I have as it's almost 
useless, it distorts the signal but the 390A's is great.

Bob Young
Millbury, MA


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Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 09:16:17 -0700

Bob,

I thought about buying an R 390 a few times some years back, but after
my neighbor put in the electic fencing for the cattle, I knew the
handwriting was on the wall using any radio w/o a noise blanker. That is
why I got rid of the SP-600. All three of my receivers have noise
blankers (R8,SPR4, and R-1000). Other than that, my noise level here is
very low. The noise blankers do take out the impulse noise of the
clicking of the fence. Sometimes the noise is quite low and other times
more noisy. It varies a bit by the weather.

73,

Patrick

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[IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Dan Strassberg
I wholeheartedly concur with the sentiments Bob expressed in his recent post
on this subject. I don't think that electropolitical correctness has any
more place on a DX list than do flames. I read a lot of sarcasm and some
anger in the forbidden thread but I did not see any of the insults that were
referred to. I think the list moderators are wrong to ban such discussions.
As Bob stated, nothing could be more organic (my words) to the DX hobby. I
encourage others who share Bob's and my opinion to post their opinions on
the suppression of the thread. A large number of such posts is the only
mechanism I can think of to let the moderators know that a significant
number of list members decidedly DO NOT concur with the moderators' approach
to this matter.

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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
Well I must say I agree wholeheartedly with you Dan, haha!

Bob Young
Analog, MA




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I wholeheartedly concur with the sentiments Bob expressed in his recent 
post
on this subject. I don't think that electropolitical correctness has any
more place on a DX list than do flames. I read a lot of sarcasm and some
anger in the forbidden thread but I did not see any of the insults that 
were
referred to. I think the list moderators are wrong to ban such discussions.
As Bob stated, nothing could be more organic (my words) to the DX hobby. I
encourage others who share Bob's and my opinion to post their opinions on
the suppression of the thread. A large number of such posts is the only
mechanism I can think of to let the moderators know that a significant
number of list members decidedly DO NOT concur with the moderators' 
approach
to this matter.

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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Bob,

I never knew that. Then the R-390 does have an honest Noise Blanker and
not a Noise Limiter as the SP 600 had. Now that is interesting. I wonder
what kind of circuit the R 390 uses? Anyone know? That diode set up in
the SP-600 never did anything much except distort the audio as you
mentioned. That was the only reason I sold the SP 600. It was one great
receiver and netted me a lot of great DX through the years. One thing I
really miss is the crystal phasing. I wish the crystal filters in the
SPR4 had phasing. 

73,

Patrick 

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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
Yes I love crystal filters, 388's have them but the noise limiter is not as 
good as on a 390 or 390A, the best of both worlds would be a phasing control 
on a 390A as the narrow positions are crystals (I think), the mechanical 
filter's narrowest postion is 2KHz, the 1 and 0.1 are crystals. It does very 
well with hets though except when the stations are 1 KHz apart like when 
WWKB 1520 (which booms in around here) and 1521 Saudi Arabia (which also 
booms in around here) are both in. I really miss phasing in that situation, 
and love the 600 and the 388. Actually the HRO's are pretty good with splits 
also and have great crystal filters,

Bob Young
Millbury, MA


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Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 10:02:37 -0700

Bob,

I never knew that. Then the R-390 does have an honest Noise Blanker and
not a Noise Limiter as the SP 600 had. Now that is interesting. I wonder
what kind of circuit the R 390 uses? Anyone know? That diode set up in
the SP-600 never did anything much except distort the audio as you
mentioned. That was the only reason I sold the SP 600. It was one great
receiver and netted me a lot of great DX through the years. One thing I
really miss is the crystal phasing. I wish the crystal filters in the
SPR4 had phasing.

73,

Patrick

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[IRCA] WKRP

2007-05-06 Thread Bill Bergadano
I wish they would of had an episode of this series with the staff 
dealing with a ton of reception reports.

Bill Bergadano





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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Dan,

It is not that we ban it. Lynn and I never said that. But in almost
every case the flames get going and the edge is reached very quickly and
close if not to insults. Rarely is the subject ever able to get
discussed without it getting out of line. 
Plus, in so many cases even when the discussion is not out of line, it
hogs the list so much that we get complaints from many that threaten to
quit. Where the subject is related to our DXing hobby and none of us
like it, nothing ever gets solved and people end up getting upset and
hurt.

73,

Patrick
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Re: [IRCA] WKRP

2007-05-06 Thread Tim Kridel
Great idea!

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I wish they would of had an episode of this series with the staff 
dealing with a ton of reception reports.

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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Chuck Hutton
Perhaps you ought to re-read your emails from this morning, where Lynn said:


Folks,
All that needs to be said on this thread has been said. Let's move on - and
keep it DX-related. NO MORE POSTS ON THIS THREAD!

Lynn.
Lafayette, LA


If that isn't a ban, what is it?


Chuck


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Dan,

It is not that we ban it. Lynn and I never said that. But in almost
every case the flames get going and the edge is reached very quickly and
close if not to insults. Rarely is the subject ever able to get
discussed without it getting out of line. 
Plus, in so many cases even when the discussion is not out of line, it
hogs the list so much that we get complaints from many that threaten to
quit. Where the subject is related to our DXing hobby and none of us
like it, nothing ever gets solved and people end up getting upset and
hurt.

73,

Patrick
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[IRCA] longwire antennas

2007-05-06 Thread WILLIAM J. BROOKS
greetings,
   my rx station is located on a steep, heavily-wooded hillside.
   i am presently using a coaxial endfed, #12 ga., insulated copper
longwire about 150ft.in length and about 20ft.above grade.it is oriented
in a sw-ne heading.i work the bcb exclusively for western u.s. stations.
   i would like to increase the length and height but i am at the
limit of open space.in order to do this i would either have to cut much brush
and slay several trees (not preferred) or attach the insulated wire tree-to-tree
(preferred) which would then permit a dramatic increase in height and length.
   question:
 would there be a sacrifice in performance if i 
chose the
 tree-to-tree route? i have not seen a great deal 
written
 on the use of insulated copper longwires in this 
application
 unless as a beverage.
 is this concept worth considering, or should i be 
content
 with my 150ft. wire? i could easily extend the 
length to 300-
 400ft.in this manner.and probably another 
15-20ft.in height.

 any comments would be greatly appreciated.

 73's   bill brooks
   
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[IRCA] WNW EWE

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Greetings everyone,

Some of you that visited my place last Fall might remember that last leg
of that Shore Pine tree that was in the backyard behind the satellite
dish. Well, that tree is history now. I had a tree climber come in
yesterday and cut it down. With my neighbors moving along with Don's
chainsaw, I wont have the support I have had with help. That last leg of
the tree was 50 feet high and swayed so much in our high winds, I knew
that last leg of the tree would be down in time. I doubt it would have
hit the house, but I still did not want to worry about it. Anyway, in
the process I had to take down the WNW side of the EWE while he cut the
tree down in sections. I put it back up and I even gained another few
inches aimed more to the NW now. I don't know how much help in DX to the
NW, but I did notice CHFA-680 quite pronounced under KNBR last night and
Northerly cx did not seem good. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Bob,

Yes, I would like to loosen up those crystal filters in the SPR4 with a
phasing control. The 2.4 is just a bit too tight in many cases. It will
separate the signals very nicely. Easier in some cases than the L/C
filters in the R8, but the audio is too muffled at times, especially if
the signal I am trying to hear it weak.  I wish the SPR4 had ECSS too,
but in 1971, ECSS was a dream. Sure I can tune in sideband, but it is
not the same thing with the audio level being weak and being stuck with
the audible tone too. ECSS on the R8 is much nicer. I would like to
fiqure out a way to add phasing in the SPR4 if I could. Tuning in AM
with the SPR4 does work well though.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Chuck,

How many times has it been discussed on this list through the years? If
it would have been an all out ban, then it would have never been
discussed again. There are a few lists out there that certain subjects
are banned and they are never discussed again period. Moving on is not
a ban. It is a strong suggestion  to drop it as the subject is getting
out of line. Flame throwing we do not want. 

73,

Patrick
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Re: [IRCA] longwire antennas

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Bill,

I have never had an issue with my antennas running through or near trees
or brush, as long as it is insullated wire. You don't want bare wire
touching things. But at MW frequencies, I don't see any problems with
limbs. I have run my antennas to trees, next to bushes and the like for
many years. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] longwire antennas

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
I presently have two insulated #12 400' LW's going through all sorts of 
trees and they work fine. I just run them through the trees only attached at 
the ends. At my old location I had a 75' LW in the clear and then ran a 450' 
LW though trees over a swamp etc, and I got all sorts of TA's with this 
antenna, the increase in signal strength over the 75' LW (and my 4' loop) 
was phenominal,

Bob Young
Analog, MA


From: WILLIAM J. BROOKS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of 
Americairca@hard-core-dx.com
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: [IRCA] longwire antennas
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 09:03:08 -0400

greetings,
my rx station is located on a steep, heavily-wooded 
hillside.
i am presently using a coaxial endfed, #12 ga., insulated 
copper
longwire about 150ft.in length and about 20ft.above grade.it is oriented
in a sw-ne heading.i work the bcb exclusively for western u.s. stations.
i would like to increase the length and height but i am at 
the
limit of open space.in order to do this i would either have to cut much 
brush
and slay several trees (not preferred) or attach the insulated wire 
tree-to-tree
(preferred) which would then permit a dramatic increase in height and 
length.
question:
  would there be a sacrifice in performance if 
i chose the
  tree-to-tree route? i have not seen a great 
deal written
  on the use of insulated copper longwires in 
this application
  unless as a beverage.
  is this concept worth considering, or should 
i be content
  with my 150ft. wire? i could easily extend 
the length to 300-
  400ft.in this manner.and probably another 
15-20ft.in height.

  any comments would be greatly appreciated.

  73's   bill brooks

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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread kevin redding
 I think the list moderators are wrong to ban such discussions.

I agree with you on this one.

I think there is a fellow in Colorado with very thin skin.

Kevin

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Re: [IRCA] longwire antennas

2007-05-06 Thread Neil Kazaross
Yes..by all means extend to 400 ft or so, and get a phasing unit and add a 
2nd wire somewhat different direction and length for phasing.

I trust your hillside QTH slopes down toward the west where you are trying 
to receive ? That helps some when using LW's.

Also where do you live, Bill ? I live 35 miles NW of Chicago and my main 
specialty is western stations, mostly via sunset skip where I catch them 
still on day power/pattern just prior to their sunset switch times.

73 KAZ expecting we can give you lots of useful antenna advice
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] longwire antennas


I presently have two insulated #12 400' LW's going through all sorts of
 trees and they work fine. I just run them through the trees only attached 
 at
 the ends. At my old location I had a 75' LW in the clear and then ran a 
 450'
 LW though trees over a swamp etc, and I got all sorts of TA's with this
 antenna, the increase in signal strength over the 75' LW (and my 4' loop)
 was phenominal,

 Bob Young
 Analog, MA


From: WILLIAM J. BROOKS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of
Americairca@hard-core-dx.com
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: [IRCA] longwire antennas
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 09:03:08 -0400

greetings,
my rx station is located on a steep, heavily-wooded
hillside.
i am presently using a coaxial endfed, #12 ga., insulated
copper
longwire about 150ft.in length and about 20ft.above grade.it is oriented
in a sw-ne heading.i work the bcb exclusively for western u.s. stations.
i would like to increase the length and height but i am at
the
limit of open space.in order to do this i would either have to cut much
brush
and slay several trees (not preferred) or attach the insulated wire
tree-to-tree
(preferred) which would then permit a dramatic increase in height and
length.
question:
  would there be a sacrifice in performance if
i chose the
  tree-to-tree route? i have not seen a great
deal written
  on the use of insulated copper longwires in
this application
  unless as a beverage.
  is this concept worth considering, or should
i be content
  with my 150ft. wire? i could easily extend
the length to 300-
  400ft.in this manner.and probably another
15-20ft.in height.

  any comments would be greatly appreciated.

  73's   bill brooks


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Re: [IRCA] WOOF-560

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
At 07:57 PM 5/5/2007 -0700, you wrote:
WVOC should be
listenable here, but not great, but their field
strength is only 25% of what it should be. The ground

system and antenna network needs a lot of work.
Powell

Powell,

I think you're right. WVOC used to be much more of
a QRMer for WGAI, Elizabeth City, North Carolina.
Now it's way under WGAI, days.

Charles


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Re: [IRCA] Canada IBAC

2007-05-06 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW

--- Pete Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I hate to be dense but everyone else seems to call
 it IBOC (for on  
 channel) so what's the AC - at channel?

Because it has never been and NEVER WILL be on
channel a lie started and perpetuated by the
inventors. The digital will ONLY be [mostly] on
channel when analog is extinguished. The digital
resides in the adjacent channels. Just think, you can
transmit on other channels you aren't licenesed for
with SUBSTANTIAL powers, and more so than a lot of
smaller stations that are actually receiving
substantial interference.


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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
At 10:02 AM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Bob,

I never knew that. Then the R-390 does have an honest Noise Blanker and
not a Noise Limiter as the SP 600 had. Now that is interesting. I wonder
what kind of circuit the R 390 uses? Anyone know? That diode set up in
the SP-600 never did anything much except distort the audio as you
mentioned. That was the only reason I sold the SP 600. It was one great
receiver and netted me a lot of great DX through the years. One thing I
really miss is the crystal phasing. I wish the crystal filters in the
SPR4 had phasing.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin

Patrick,

AFAIK, the R-390's NOISE LIMITER is essentially the same as the R-390A's
NOISE LIMITER. Neither are noise blankers in the proper sense of the
term. All they do is chop off the audio at a predetermined level as set
by the operator by adjusting the LIMITER pot. Like the SP-600, they tend
to distort the audio.

The R-390A is the result of a cost-reduction contract written by the US
Army Signal Corps with Collins Radio Corp. The R-390A was a great deal
cheaper per unit than the R-390. But the R-390A has the mechanical
filters, and THAT, sir, is the important difference! Every receiver, w/
the exception of the R8B, that I have owned I've had to supply either
a crystal lattice filter or a mechanical filter to supplement the
selectivity characteristics.

The lack of a good product detector and a good noise blanker are the
prime drawbacks of the R-390 family.

And the noise blanker of the R8B is finicky in that, if the incoming
signal is above a certain level, the NB ceases to operate. I think
that's because the R8B's NB has an AGC input to the NB.

Now go climb a tree!

Kindest regards,

Charles


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Re: [IRCA] IBOC hash noted on 840/860 ~ 8:20pm

2007-05-06 Thread chris and anne
Fred, I know you meant to say 1480/1500.I'm about 15 miles from them, 
and towards nightfall, their analog signal fades into the graveyard mix, but 
the hash on each side is easily heard 'til they shut it off.  73  Chris 
K4NHL  Taylors, S.C.
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Subject: [IRCA] IBOC hash noted on 840/860 ~ 8:20pm


 Could this have been KOA's IBOC?  If so, it interferred with WHAS-840 
 while
 doing
 a rerun of the Kentucky Derby that I was trying to hear who won it.
 Then the IBOC hash stopped ~8:20pm edt while driving down I26 back toward
 Charleston SC.

 I also noted WPCI-1490's IBOC on while visiting old Syracuse NY friends in
 Greenville SC today,
 the hash on 1500/1520 was much louder (and quite irritating) than their
 signal on 1490!

 I tried for 1590-WABV Abbeville SC while in rainy Greenville at noon, but
 not heard on the
 car radio.

 Fred Nordquist
 dry rainless Moncks Corner, SC
 33.21756N 79.95798W
 FM03AF
 AM DX eqt:
 Receivers: Sony ICF-2010  1999 Dodge Caravan Stock Radio.
 Main Antennas: SM1 Loop, Low noise NNE-SSW 75' LW (EWE Config)
 Portable Antennas: Two 500' fishing wire spools - roll-out/drill reel-in
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Re: [IRCA] WKRC in Cincinnati

2007-05-06 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW

--- Ira Elbert New, III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  WKRP was said to have been based on an Atlanta
 station. The call letters escape me at the moment.


WQXI


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Re: [IRCA] Good day ! Super Radio

2007-05-06 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW

--- Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got two original GE Super radios last year at yard
 sales, both for under 5 
 dollars each and they both work great. The Super
 Radios have no tweeter, I 
 think that is the only difference, cosmetically they
 look pretty much the 
 same, my father has a II and would never part with
 it and he's not a DXer.



I have an original and a II. I can tell no difference
in the highs but the original SR has better low end as
the one speaker is larger.


I paid $2.00 for mine.

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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
At 01:18 PM 5/6/2007 -0400, you wrote:
Yes I love crystal filters, 388's have them but the noise limiter is not as
good as on a 390 or 390A, the best of both worlds would be a phasing control
on a 390A as the narrow positions are crystals (I think), the mechanical
filter's narrowest postion is 2KHz, the 1 and 0.1 are crystals. It does very
well with hets though except when the stations are 1 KHz apart like when
WWKB 1520 (which booms in around here) and 1521 Saudi Arabia (which also
booms in around here) are both in. I really miss phasing in that situation,
and love the 600 and the 388. Actually the HRO's are pretty good with splits
also and have great crystal filters,

Bob Young
Millbury, MA

Bob,

You've got to practice with the 2-KC mechanical filter of your R-390A.

In the case of splitting BSKSA-1521 off from 1520, you dial your R-390A
upwards until 1520 falls off the edge of the 2-KC mechanical filter
slope. The het is gone and you got BSKSA-1521 as good as it's going to
get on the R-390A. Of course you still have WWKB's sidebands to live
with, but that's going to be true with any receiver.

73 de Charles
min Grifton, an-Nort Karolina, ar-Rednekiya
(L'il AA there fer you other Rednecks!)

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[IRCA] Trees whut got LAIGS!

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
At 10:28 AM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Greetings everyone,

Some of you that visited my place last Fall might remember that last leg
of that Shore Pine tree that was in the backyard behind the satellite
dish.

Patrick,

Now yore tree's is growin' LAIGS! DERN, that's somethin' ELSE!

Now yew kin git them t' move aroun' yore house n' change th' digh-
rekshional pattern o' yore antannys.

Kin yew git some seeds er pahn-cones n' send me a few. I WANT a tree
whut kin walk aroun'!

Tu amigo en Carolina del Norte.

Carlitos

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Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Russ Edmunds

--- Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Instead of complaining about how bad IBOC is, why don't some of you
 try and
 do something about it? Not like it'll really help anyways, as IBOC's
 success is politiclaly and financially motivated by the big
 corporations
 and big politicians.
 


*** Precisely why most don't do anything about it. There are only two
things which can derail it - 1) massive public apathy ( to which I
contribute by refusing to buy an HD Radio ) and 2) suits - potentially
international and domestic. I know, the 'rules' say that copmplaints
must go the the FCC and try to ban suits, but since the FCC won't be
doing anything constructive with complaints, and since it's nearly
impossible to keep things out of the courts, that will happen.

Either, or both, will result in major financial hard times for iBiquity
and also for its large broadcaster owners.



Russ Edmunds
Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
FM: Yamaha T-80  Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
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Re: [IRCA] IBOC hash noted on 840/860 ~ 8:20pm

2007-05-06 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW

--- Fred Nordquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could this have been KOA's IBOC?  If so, it
 interferred with WHAS-840 while
 doing
 a rerun of the Kentucky Derby that I was trying to
 hear who won it.
 Then the IBOC hash stopped ~8:20pm edt while driving
 down I26 back toward
 Charleston SC.
  
Nope not a chance. There's a 50 KW daytime powered
station in Knoxville that booms in here before
sunset.


Powell   Silverstreet, SC


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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
I think Patrick meant a 390A Charles, and it probably is a peak limiter like 
the others, but mine works one hundred times better in the 390A than any 
other I've got in many different boatanchors, especially in the 388 and 
SP-600's. I just turn it on to the minimum and it doesn't seem to chop the 
peaks very much if at all but the noise is way below the audio level of the 
station, works very well in mine. I've got a couple of 390's but have to 
change the PTO in one of them before I can use it and the other also needs 
some work,

Bob Young
analog, MA
KB1OKL


From: Charles A Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of 
Americairca@hard-core-dx.com
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of 
Americairca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 14:32:24 -0400

At 10:02 AM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:
 Bob,
 
 I never knew that. Then the R-390 does have an honest Noise Blanker and
 not a Noise Limiter as the SP 600 had. Now that is interesting. I wonder
 what kind of circuit the R 390 uses? Anyone know? That diode set up in
 the SP-600 never did anything much except distort the audio as you
 mentioned. That was the only reason I sold the SP 600. It was one great
 receiver and netted me a lot of great DX through the years. One thing I
 really miss is the crystal phasing. I wish the crystal filters in the
 SPR4 had phasing.
 73,
 Patrick
 Patrick Martin

Patrick,

AFAIK, the R-390's NOISE LIMITER is essentially the same as the R-390A's
NOISE LIMITER. Neither are noise blankers in the proper sense of the
term. All they do is chop off the audio at a predetermined level as set
by the operator by adjusting the LIMITER pot. Like the SP-600, they tend
to distort the audio.

The R-390A is the result of a cost-reduction contract written by the US
Army Signal Corps with Collins Radio Corp. The R-390A was a great deal
cheaper per unit than the R-390. But the R-390A has the mechanical
filters, and THAT, sir, is the important difference! Every receiver, w/
the exception of the R8B, that I have owned I've had to supply either
a crystal lattice filter or a mechanical filter to supplement the
selectivity characteristics.

The lack of a good product detector and a good noise blanker are the
prime drawbacks of the R-390 family.

And the noise blanker of the R8B is finicky in that, if the incoming
signal is above a certain level, the NB ceases to operate. I think
that's because the R8B's NB has an AGC input to the NB.

Now go climb a tree!

Kindest regards,

Charles


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Greenville, North Carolina


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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Chuck Hutton
IBAC vs. IBOC??? Not at all that I remember. I do admit do deleting the
great majority of posts from this list so I may sometimes miss a mis-labeled
thread so possibly I tossed it away it in it's entirety but I doubt that.

I think there is confusion here. Lynn mentioned this thread so I took it
to mean IBAC vs. IBOC. You mention through the years which sounds like
you're talking about IBOC in general. How about a clarification as to what's
being banned here?

As to the ban, you didn't mention the part of Lynn's message in big capital
letters: NO MORE POSTS ON THIS THREAD!. No ifs. No ands. No buts. No more
posts period. That's going to be considered a ban by a lot of people,
Patrick.

In any case, I don't see a major problem here and what problem I do see
would be best handled by a private email message to a particular person, not
a ban on IBOC.

The great majority of this thread has been normal pointed disagreements
between people which shouldn't be a cause of much worry.


Chuck 



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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:41 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club ofAmerica
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

Chuck,

How many times has it been discussed on this list through the years? If
it would have been an all out ban, then it would have never been
discussed again. There are a few lists out there that certain subjects
are banned and they are never discussed again period. Moving on is not
a ban. It is a strong suggestion  to drop it as the subject is getting
out of line. Flame throwing we do not want. 

73,

Patrick
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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Charlie,

That is my complaint with the R8 too. If the signal next door is too
strong, then the noise blanker shuts off. The SPR4 does not have that
issue. However, in the case of the SPR4, often if the clicking of the
fence to loud enough, the blanker will not totally remove the noise
100%. The R8, that is not the issue. The way around the issue with the
noise blanker in the R8, is to either phase down the strong signal, or
use the Palstar presellector, between the antenna and R8. The Q is so
sharp that it knocks down a signal 10 KHZ away 20 DB and enough to keep
the noise blanker in the R8 working. But I still have an issue with
splits really close. But most of the time, knocking down the RF gain in
ECSS, I can rid myself of 99% of the clicking. But it is fuzzy to do
sometimes.
But at least in the case of the clicking fence, it is much easier to get
rid of that noise than computers, and other noises.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Trees whut got LAIGS!

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Charlie,

That was a good one! I must admit that does sound odd. Most trees have
just a trunk that goes up. These Shore Pines have the trunk that
starts at the ground, but any where on up, the tree will likely split
off and you will see at least two trunks going up, maybe three (In the
case of the one in the backyard). They can be quite Top heavy. When
they get older, the trees get brittle and snap off. What happened here.
I called them legs There is probably a better name, but I don't have
one. Some have called them limbs, but they are much bigger than a limb.
They can be almost as big as the trunk, and can have as much weight.
That is the reason they get so top heavy. On occasion they will up
root too, in the high winds.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Chris Black
But at least he didn't say HO.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 12:46 PM
Subject: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it


I wholeheartedly concur with the sentiments Bob expressed in his recent 
post
 on this subject. I don't think that electropolitical correctness has any
 more place on a DX list than do flames. I read a lot of sarcasm and some
 anger in the forbidden thread but I did not see any of the insults that 
 were
 referred to. I think the list moderators are wrong to ban such 
 discussions.
 As Bob stated, nothing could be more organic (my words) to the DX hobby. I
 encourage others who share Bob's and my opinion to post their opinions on
 the suppression of the thread. A large number of such posts is the only
 mechanism I can think of to let the moderators know that a significant
 number of list members decidedly DO NOT concur with the moderators' 
 approach
 to this matter.

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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Chuck,

IBOC will always be a thorn in the side until it is gone for good. Lynn
 I have no problems with civil discussions. But this last thread, I got
a couple complaints, plus it was right on the insulting edge. But in
most cases, as I stated, the discussions start getting close to flame
throwing. This has to be avoided. Remember we are all friends. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Paul B writes an e-mail w/out a typo!

2007-05-06 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Thanks Charles! I come thru every now and then.

Paul



On 5/6/07, Charles A Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 02:44 AM 5/6/2007 -0400, you wrote:
 Patrick:
 
 Your one liner below said it all, perfectly. Well done!
 
 Paul B. Walker, Jr.

 Operations Manager/Program Director/Janitor/Bottle Washer/
 Bathroom Cleaner/Sody-Pop Machine Raider
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 Way to go, Paul!

 I KNEW you could type an e-mail without a typo!

 I KNEW that one glorious, beautiful day you would
 gouge a whole message out without mis-spelling something.

 Now, let's go pick on Willis da Monk!

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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Chuck Hutton
Patrick:

None of your responses have given the clarification I asked for as to
whether we have a ban (you say no but Lynn's post says NO MORE POSTS ON
THIS THREAD!) and if so, whether the ban is IBAC vs IBOC or plain IBOC.

I'm usually happy to go with the flow, but what's the flow here?


Chuck

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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

Chuck,

IBOC will always be a thorn in the side until it is gone for good. Lynn
 I have no problems with civil discussions. But this last thread, I got
a couple complaints, plus it was right on the insulting edge. But in
most cases, as I stated, the discussions start getting close to flame
throwing. This has to be avoided. Remember we are all friends. 

73,

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Re: [IRCA] God and Texas

2007-05-06 Thread Ira Elbert New, III
I was born in Hahira! Who is the lucky friend you have that lives therre?



Bert New
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Proudly Serving You Since 1964!




From: Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [IRCA] God and Texas
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 02:26:55 -0400

I think our present ahem... president has knocked some of the lustre from
Texas, I think God moved to a different state a few years ago, certainly 
not
to MA though,

Bob Young
Millbury, MA


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 Subject: Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?
 Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 00:03:34 -0400
 
 
 Ira wrote-
 
   There you go again with the typos Willis. You mistakenly typed Texas
 after
   God's country when you clearly meant to type Georgia. South Georgia to
 be
   exact, but the rest of the state ain't bad either.
 
 No, no typo's. Texas and God are two words that good together, like Texas
 peaches and cream. It is hard to say one without saying the other. No 
typo,
 just repeating what God has taught me.
 
 BTW, I have a ole navy buddy that lives in Hahira, Ga. I been to his 
house,
 and south Georgia isn't much brag about.
 
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Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?

2007-05-06 Thread Ira Elbert New, III
You're right...South Georgia isn't much to brag about...it's a lot to brag 
about!


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Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 00:03:34 -0400


Ira wrote-

 There you go again with the typos Willis. You mistakenly typed Texas 
after
 God's country when you clearly meant to type Georgia. South Georgia to 
be

 exact, but the rest of the state ain't bad either.

No, no typo's. Texas and God are two words that good together, like Texas
peaches and cream. It is hard to say one without saying the other. No typo,
just repeating what God has taught me.

BTW, I have a ole navy buddy that lives in Hahira, Ga. I been to his house,
and south Georgia isn't much brag about.

Willis

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Re: [IRCA] IBOC hash noted on 840/860 ~ 8:20pm

2007-05-06 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
If you drove thru Greenville, you'd be too close to 1580 WDAB, now running
,spanish relkigion to hear us.

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 --- Fred Nordquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Could this have been KOA's IBOC?  If so, it
  interferred with WHAS-840 while
  doing
  a rerun of the Kentucky Derby that I was trying to
  hear who won it.
  Then the IBOC hash stopped ~8:20pm edt while driving
  down I26 back toward
  Charleston SC.

 Nope not a chance. There's a 50 KW daytime powered
 station in Knoxville that booms in here before
 sunset.


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Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?

2007-05-06 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Georgia is ALOT to  brag about? I doubt it...however I lived in Mississippi
for a time, and that DEFINATELY aint something to brag about LOL

Paul



On 5/6/07, Ira Elbert New, III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You're right...South Georgia isn't much to brag about...it's a lot to brag
 about!

 Bert New
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 Proudly Serving You Since 1964!




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 Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 00:03:34 -0400
 
 
 Ira wrote-
 
   There you go again with the typos Willis. You mistakenly typed Texas
 after
   God's country when you clearly meant to type Georgia. South Georgia to
 be
   exact, but the rest of the state ain't bad either.
 
 No, no typo's. Texas and God are two words that good together, like Texas
 peaches and cream. It is hard to say one without saying the other. No
 typo,
 just repeating what God has taught me.
 
 BTW, I have a ole navy buddy that lives in Hahira, Ga. I been to his
 house,
 and south Georgia isn't much brag about.
 
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Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?

2007-05-06 Thread willis


 Georgia is ALOT to  brag about? I doubt it...however I lived in
Mississippi
 for a time, and that DEFINATELY aint something to brag about LOL

 Paul


Paul, miracles do happen. You and I have something to agree about.

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Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?

2007-05-06 Thread Gil Stacy
BTW, I have a ole navy buddy that lives in Hahira, Ga. I been to his house,
and south Georgia isn't much brag about.

Spread the word.  Getting to be too many J Birds around here.  J Bird is a
snowbird who moved to Florida and then to Ga when the Magic Kingdom lost its
charm and/or filled up with too many snowbirds.  Hahira is not S Ga.  It's
middle Ga. next to Augusta.
Gil NN4CW
Savannah
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Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?

2007-05-06 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Glad to hear it Willis!

Now, I'm from Connecticut.. which is where I was born, and rasied for nearly
19 years.. now that is DEFINATELY something to brag about! (Im a damned
yankee, LOL!)

Paul



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  Georgia is ALOT to  brag about? I doubt it...however I lived in
 Mississippi
  for a time, and that DEFINATELY aint something to brag about LOL
 
  Paul


 Paul, miracles do happen. You and I have something to agree about.

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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

2007-05-06 Thread Ng1u
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2007 May 06 1802 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Environment Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 05 May follow.
Solar flux 81 and mid-latitude A-index 3.
The mid-latitude K-index at 1800 UTC on 06 May was 2 (15 nT).
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are expected for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 05   05   05   05   05   05   05   05   06   06   06   06   06   06   
UTC   0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1800 
SFlx 83   83   83   83   83   83   83   81   81   81   81   81   81   81   
A-in 33333333333333
K-in 11011211100012
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread willis
Chuck-

I understood it was a ban on the WKRP thread. It was getting out of hand,
and needed to be stopped.

Willis



 Patrick:

 None of your responses have given the clarification I asked for as to
 whether we have a ban (you say no but Lynn's post says NO MORE POSTS ON
 THIS THREAD!) and if so, whether the ban is IBAC vs IBOC or plain IBOC.

 I'm usually happy to go with the flow, but what's the flow here?

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Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?

2007-05-06 Thread Gil Stacy
I stand corrected. Hahira is South Ga.  I was thinking Hebzibah near Harlem
where Oliver Hardy was born.
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread kevin redding
Or nappy headed

On May 6, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Chris Black wrote:

 But at least he didn't say HO.
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Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?

2007-05-06 Thread willis


 Glad to hear it Willis!

 Now, I'm from Connecticut.. which is where I was born, and rasied for
nearly
 19 years.. now that is DEFINATELY something to brag about! (Im a damned
 yankee, LOL!)


Do you know the difference between Yankees and damn Yankees???

Yankees come into south, look around, then go home.

Damn Yankees come down, look around, then stay.

Get my point, boy!

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Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?

2007-05-06 Thread Ira Elbert New, III
Even though you have no idea where Hahira is, I still like to meet you. I 
will be in Savannah May 16-18 with some 8th graders from Winder-Barrow 
Middle School.



Bert New
Watkinsville, Georgia
Proudly Serving You Since 1964!




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Subject: Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:49:29 -0400

BTW, I have a ole navy buddy that lives in Hahira, Ga. I been to his 
house,
 and south Georgia isn't much brag about.

Spread the word.  Getting to be too many J Birds around here.  J Bird is a
snowbird who moved to Florida and then to Ga when the Magic Kingdom lost 
its
charm and/or filled up with too many snowbirds.  Hahira is not S Ga.  It's
middle Ga. next to Augusta.
Gil NN4CW
Savannah
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[IRCA] DRAKE R8B

2007-05-06 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

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Re: [IRCA] 17 years in TN. Before then?

2007-05-06 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
LOL WIllis, I get your pooint!

Paul



On 5/6/07, willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Glad to hear it Willis!
 
  Now, I'm from Connecticut.. which is where I was born, and rasied for
 nearly
  19 years.. now that is DEFINATELY something to brag about! (Im a damned
  yankee, LOL!)


 Do you know the difference between Yankees and damn Yankees???

 Yankees come into south, look around, then go home.

 Damn Yankees come down, look around, then stay.

 Get my point, boy!

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[IRCA] longwire antennas

2007-05-06 Thread Marc DeLorenzo
William-

There should ne no scarifice in performance as long as you keep the wire as 
straight as possible.  I suggest you add as much lenghth as you possibly can.  
But, I do have a question about your steep hillside.  
  Does your wire run up the hillside or down?  Ideally, your wire should run 
DOWN the slope and not up.Also, what is your location?  Good luck.

--
Marc DeLorenzo
South Dennis, MA
http://hometown.aol.com/midcapemarc/myhomepage/profile.html


 -- Original message --
From: WILLIAM J. BROOKS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 greetings,
my rx station is located on a steep, heavily-wooded hillside.
i am presently using a coaxial endfed, #12 ga., insulated 
 copper
 longwire about 150ft.in length and about 20ft.above grade.it is oriented
 in a sw-ne heading.i work the bcb exclusively for western u.s. stations.
i would like to increase the length and height but i am at the
 limit of open space.in order to do this i would either have to cut much brush
 and slay several trees (not preferred) or attach the insulated wire 
 tree-to-tree
 (preferred) which would then permit a dramatic increase in height and length.
   question:   would there be a sacrifice in performance if i chose the  
 tree-to-tree route 
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Re: [IRCA] 970 Question ?

2007-05-06 Thread The Kaskey Family
Thanks Pat, I thought as much!

Don



Patrick Martin wrote:

 Don,

 I think Portland is using Fox Sports as I have heard it on there at
 times too. But I have only heard it in the evenings.

 73,

 Patrick

 Patrick Martin
 KAVT Reception Manager

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[IRCA] DX logging: WWGP-1050 Sanford, NC

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
1050  WWGP   NC  Sanford, Lee County: 5/6 @ 1650.
  String of spots and PSAs, ending with
  one for safety w/electrical appliances
  around water. Then, America loves our
  country...W W G P. Finally! Usually
  under WVXX, Norfolk and too weak to
  ID when WVXX is looped. WX front was
  strengthening stations to the west
  today.(CAT-NC)


Charles A Taylor, WD4INP
Greenville, North Carolina 


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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Milspec390
Turning on R-390 or 'A' Limiter without advancing it further does a nice, 
quiet, job at this qth.
 
  
 z
 
 
 
Niko? Strangers in the house. He'll do 
 a nice, quiet, job.
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 The Three Stooges, c. 1945



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Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC

2007-05-06 Thread Milspec390
IBOC irritates many precisely because little can be done about it. Nulling 
proves difficult. One can easily null analog, but nulling digital 'mask' is 
nigh 
on impossible. Even if you could do so, HD hiss noticeably mars desired 
analog broadcasts.
 
Limiters, blankers, u.s.w. prove ineffectual. One suggestion, posted here 
some time ago by most astute member, to tune slightly into HD noise. So doing 
somewhat attenuates it.
 
FCC has the eye for HD complaints, but not the stomach for it. Most 
unfortunate.
 
Lawsuits may well flow. Someone will perish for lack of real advisories, vis 
a vis Greensburg Tornadoes. NWS was sued some years ago for failure to provide 
storm warnings on 162 megs. Several fishermen perished. Radio is where 
everyone goes 'when something happens'. Traffic texting, during those moments, 
is 
irrelevant, as is HD.

Yes, we're all friends here. We freely exchange knowledge, yet we've found, 
despite a wealth of expertise, that IBOC interference all but impossible to 
nullify. 
 
Speaking well of IBOC is tantamount to capitulation. When thieves are afoot, 
one does not invite them in for tea, much less compliment their evasive 
behavior.
 
Time and unforeseen circumstance inevitably set matters aright.
 
  
   z
 
PV Zecchino
Manalimiter Key, FL
 
You have the eye for human weakness,
  but not the stomach for it.
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW
I think there is a fellow in Colorado with very thin skin. 
Kevin
//
Kevin, weren't slanderous remarks like this, well after we were all told
by the moderators to cease and desist, part of what got you banned from
the NRC reflector? Did you not learn from that experience? I stepped
back and shut up when the list moderators said so. And my reward for
honoring that request is to be publicly slandered by you. What did I do
to deserve this remark?

Folks this whole thing turned into something very ugly that it was
absolutely not intended to be. This did not start out as a debate over
the good and bad of the evil technology. Several boisterous anti-HD
people on this reflector turned it into that. This all started as a very
simple suggestion that we unify the name of the evil technology in order
to avoid confusion. That is all. And look at what nonsense it has turned
into. If anyone is thin skinned it is the people here who jumped on this
and turned it into something that it wasn't. I'm very sorry that I even
brought it up.

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Re: [IRCA] Canada IBAC

2007-05-06 Thread Milspec390
everything about HD is a lie.
  - non-DX'er, 'civilian' poster on consumer info board.
 
   z



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Re: [IRCA] longwire antennas

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
At 10:25 PM 5/6/2007 +, you wrote:
William-

There should ne no scarifice in performance as long as you keep the wire 
as straight as possible.  I suggest you add as much lenghth as you 
possibly can.  But, I do have a question about your steep hillside.
   Does your wire run up the hillside or down?  Ideally, your wire should 
 run DOWN the slope and not up.Also, what is your location?  Good luck.

--
Marc DeLorenzo
South Dennis, MA

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William,

Go ahead and string the antenna tree-to-tree. I wrote a piece about
doing the same thing back in about 1991. ENCEBE. In the IRCA
reprints.

As long as the wire maintains a fairly straight route, it loses no
directivity. But it must be terminated, and I would recommend driving
a four-foot ground rod and using a resistor of about 560 ohms.

Fair Radio Sales Co. sells WD-1A/TT field phone wire at $45 for
500 feet.

This is two-conductor stuff. It tends to have some splices. I
split off the wires and splice them end-to-end.

What makes WD-1A/TT wire so attractive is its durability. It
consists of three strands of steel wire and four strands of copper
wire, insulated by a very durable hard plastic. Solder-splicing it
is very easy with a 100-watt gun. Tape the splices so they don't
contact tree branches.

73, Charles

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[IRCA] Tuning 1-Khz splits with 2-KC bandwidth (R-390A)

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
At 03:23 PM 5/6/2007 -0400, you wrote:
I think Patrick meant a 390A Charles, and it probably is a peak limiter like
the others, but mine works one hundred times better in the 390A than any
other I've got in many different boatanchors, especially in the 388 and
SP-600's. I just turn it on to the minimum and it doesn't seem to chop the
peaks very much if at all but the noise is way below the audio level of the
station, works very well in mine. I've got a couple of 390's but have to
change the PTO in one of them before I can use it and the other also needs
some work,

Bob Young
analog, MA
KB1OKL


OK, Bob.

Did you read after my observations about R-390()/URR's noise limiter,
the right way to tune in 2-KC bandwidth for 1-kHz splits?

Instead of straddling your desired station in the center of the 2-KC
bandwidth (which puts the even channel at the edge of, and inside
the passband), tune the R-390A AWAY from the even channel so that
your split is at the high or low edge of the passband. Then the
excellent shape factor of a good mechanical filter really shines.

2 kHz is about optimal if that's all you have. But the R-390A's 4-
KC bandwidth is better for intelligibility, in many instances.

Back in my last year of the Navy (1972, in Coronado, CA), I bought a
nice GR-78 communications receiver kit from Heath Co. I added an I-F
jack (455 kHz) to the back apron, and bought a Collins 2.1-kHz
mechanical filter. Built a Q-5er receiver tail end around that
mechanical filter. Took them to the Philippines 1972-1973.

For DXing, I used the Q-5er. The audio was somewhat muffled, but
Collins mechanical filters were (and still are) expensive, and I
didn't want to buy a 4-kHz mechanical filter. For general listening,
I listened through the GR-78's I-F and audio strip.

So you see, you don't need a phasing control on an R-390A.

Know what I mean, Vern?

Trees at yah!

Charles A Taylor, WD4INP
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Re: [IRCA] WKRP, wherever it is

2007-05-06 Thread Charles A Taylor
At 10:37 AM 5/6/2007 -0500, you wrote:
I've seen every episode probably a half-dozen times, and this is the first 
time I've heard of a connection between the calls and that word. Where did 
you hear that?


Tim,

I guess it's my warped mind. It appears that nobody else associated WKRP with
W-Crap.

My bad. I'm spanked (spunk?)!

Charles

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I hope we leave WKRP behind as a topic. It's a
bit disgusting as it obviously stands for crap,
and that's just another vulgarism we don't need
on this List.

Please, DROP IT!

Charles
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
I think this turned into something ugly only in some people's minds. I saw 
only a spirited discussion. Also are there any boisterous pro-IBOC people 
here? Or are there people here who really don't care one way or the other? 
It seems to me that anyone who benignly accepts their hobby and maybe the 
whole AM band sliding off into oblivion obviously doesn't have very much 
emotional energy invested in this hobby. I think some people here are really 
overeacting to certain posts and maybe for the wrong reasons, I think there 
is more here than meets the eye. Anti IBAC comments just aren't going to 
stop, we need to accept that, 99.9% of DXers' hate it. If we don't want to 
read a post about someone getting WKRAP (now don't go crazy now Charles, 
hi!) in East Puddle, New Hampshire, we delete it, it's that simple, it's 
been said here and other places many many times, if we don't like something 
just hit the delete button. I do it many times each day. IBOC, IBAC, IBUZZ, 
what ever you like to call it is the most pressing problem this hobby faces 
right now and to ignore it and pretend everything is hunky dory is 
ludicrious. If I didn't want to read about IBOC and an e-mail came into my 
box with the subject line IBOC I would delete it, it's that simple and 
sometimes I do get tired of it and delete it, but most times not. I'm not 
trying to PO anyone, why can't we all just let each other do their thing. If 
I can't keep up with who is getting jammed by IBOC here where else am I 
going to get that information? And with this post I'm going to shut up for 
at least 20 minutes.

Bob Young
Analog, MA


Folks this whole thing turned into something very ugly that it was
absolutely not intended to be. This did not start out as a debate over
the good and bad of the evil technology. Several boisterous anti-HD
people on this reflector turned it into that.

Patrick Griffith, Westminster CO
Broadcast Technician
NRC Broadcasting - Denver
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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Bob Young
Yes, same here.

Bob young
Analog, MA


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Subject: Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 18:40:25 EDT

Turning on R-390 or 'A' Limiter without advancing it further does a nice,
quiet, job at this qth.


  z



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  a nice, quiet, job.
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Milspec390
Lemme get this straight. IBOC jams. Promoters deny it. They pollute spectrum 
and deny listener choice, with what is, by any legit standard, harmful, 
unlawful interference. They kept HD's troubles secret from the public they are 
supposed to serve, for blatant reasons.
 
Now, in the eleventh hour, as HD is met by rabid consumer apathy and looming 
legal actions, they try to squelch inquiry and stifle debate, by piously 
coercing our silence?
 
 Solzhenytsyn, in retrospect, wrote that the thugs who looted and killed in 
the name of 'socialism', could easily have been stopped. For all their coercive 
bullying and mind-bending lies, they were at their core, weak, greedygut, 
cowards. 

He lamented, rather than 'speak politely of marauders', capitulate to their 
moralistic rhetoric, and endorse their aberrrant behavior, had they even mildly 
opposed these termites, decency would have prevailed, and many would have 
been spared misery.
 
They fear us, not because we are an unruly lot, but because we aren't, and, 
as well, because we know their tales for what they are. They can spin all the 
Baroque drivel they wish, our expertise, rooted in true science rather than 
BigKorpseorate mendacity, will always refute the most artful of these dodgers. 
Truth is what they most dread.
 
 Paul Vincent Zecchino
 
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Milspec390


Bob -
 
Right, to paraphrase Mr. Fowler, President Reagan's FCC Chair, if you don't 
like post, dump it.  Boisterousness is up front, forthright, that's what scares 
TeamBLOC.
 
They tried to sneak their jammer past citizens. They failed. Now they're 
upset. In manner of nasty two year old brats, they want their HD way. 

How does it feel to want?
 
They're anything but boisterous. They speak vapid slogans, ever so sweetly 
parsed. They never raise their voices, lest others 'feel uncomfortable'. Watch 
your back around them.
 
PV Zecchino
 
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Milspec390
Estimado Y. -
 
Quite.
 
 HD/IBAC/iBLOC is the most serious issue we, as well as the radio listening 
public, face.
 
Ignore HD at your own peril.
 
Squelch debate, for fear of 'offending', and you might as well demolish all 
your receivers.
 

Do I care if some putrescent, pusillanimous, pipsqueak calls me names? I 
don't. 

As a former talk host, Dr. Zecchino's Rx:

When you run out of insults, not to worry. I can supply you with plenty more 
- all true.
 
 Our hobby, billions of radios, and the public's right to know, is being 
stolen away, and we worry about 'offending' a cheap bunch of meretricious 
morons?
 
  
z
 
The radio business is a cruel  shallow money trench, 
  a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free,
  and good men die like dogs.
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread willis


 I think this turned into something ugly only in some people's minds. I saw
 only a spirited discussion. Also are there any boisterous pro-IBOC people
 here? Or are there people here who really don't care one way or the other?
 Are there any who oppose IBOC?

Yes to all the above



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Re: [IRCA] Tuning 1-Khz splits with 2-KC bandwidth (R-390A)

2007-05-06 Thread Milspec390
Tuning splits on 390's is fun. I like to offset tune in 2 or 4 position, as 
does Charles. Sometimes, reception is clarified by turning on BFO, offsetting 
by a Kc, and zero beating, with audio set about 2/3 while riding RF gain.  
Cheap  effective.
 
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[IRCA] WQBB-1040

2007-05-06 Thread willis


1040   WQBB   TN  POWELL  2030  06/05/07
SIGN/OFF AT 2030. WQBB, IN ACCORDANCE WITH FCC RULES..NOW LEAVES THE
AIR... THEY HAVE MUSIC OF YOUR LIFE FORMAT. [WM-TN]

This is 'long haul' DX from almost 38 miles!!!:)

DXer: Willis
QTH: Old Fart, TN
ANTENNA: 149' long wire
RCVR: Drake R-4C

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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Chuck,

To put it simply as Lynn said sometime  back, Play nice. As you can
tell, the subject IBOC is still being discussed. I cannot speak for
Lynn, but the way I feel is, if a subject can be discussed politely,
then I see no issue. Lynn  I jump in when that changes. 

73,

Patrick
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Re: [IRCA] Bob Young's comments on can't mention it

2007-05-06 Thread Milspec390
He couldn't stand rude people, Agent Starling. Called 'em, 'free range 
rude'.
 - Barney, c. 2001
   Hannibal, Thomas 
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Re: [IRCA] SP 600 /R390

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Bob,

The only experience I have had with the 390A (none of the others), is
the one Bill Block has. I have had several boat anchors through the
years, the SP 600 JX17 was my last one, I bought from Hank Wilkinson in
the early 80s. Before that I had an old EH Scott (RBO2). Not a bad
receiver either, but the SP 600 was better. Now, all I use is solidstate
gear.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] 970 Question ?

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick Martin
Don,

970 Portland seems to run a bit of everything these days from Comedy,
talk, sports, etc. A bit odd for a big city station. In some ways,
closer to the old KOIN of the 50s/60s.

73,

Patrick

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[IRCA] 1050 DX

2007-05-06 Thread willis
1050  WWICAL  SCOTTSBORO 2057  06/05/07
THIS IS WWIC..QSB   JUST DISAPPEARED.  MAY HAVE WENT TO THEIR NIGHT
POWER. [WM-TN]

1050 WWGP  NC  SANFORD  2100  06/05/07
ID-WWGP, SANFORD, NORTH CAROLINA. THEN INTO ABC NEWS.
[WM-TN]


DXer: Willis
QTH: Old Fart, TN
ANTENNA: 149' long wire
RCVR: Drake R-4C

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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

2007-05-06 Thread Ng1u
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2007 May 07 0003 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Environment Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 06 May follow.
Solar flux 78 and mid-latitude A-index 2.
The mid-latitude K-index at  UTC on 07 May was 1 (07 nT).
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are expected for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 05   05   05   05   05   05   06   06   06   06   06   06   06   07   
UTC  0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1800 2100  
SFlx 83   83   83   83   83   81   81   81   81   81   81   81   78   78   
A-in 33333333333322
K-in 01121110001211
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