Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS
Hello Josh, If the link to the latest build of JAWS version 10 in my previous message didn't work then you should be able to download the file from the link below. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3951772/J10.0.1178-32bit.exe Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS Hello Josh, You might consider doing some maintenance such as turning your computer off and using canned air to blow out dust or dirt between the keys are that might have worked down under the caps of the modifier keys as well as the other keys on the keyboard. If you are quite sure the problem is JAWS related then here are some steps for doing a JAWS repair: 1. You can download the 32-bit version of JAWS 10 if that is still what you are using at the following link: JAWS ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J10.0.1178-3 2bit.exe 10.0.1178 32-bit - October 2009 English (76.9 MB) 2. Tab to the save button instead of using the run button and press spacebar. 3. Make note of the file name and where the file is being saved. To find out where the file is being saved you can try to use shift with tab key once or twice to see if the file list in the save dialog box is showing. If not you should be able to tab to a browse button and use it and then find out where your downloads will be saved. If you are using Vista or Windows 7 you can also route JAWS to PC cursor, use a page up and arrow down once or twice to listen to the line that should tell you where the file is being saved. Use caps lock with right bracket to route JAWS to PC. Use caps lock with semicolon to turn PC cursor back on. In some save dialog box configurations you can use Alt with I to move to the save in tree view structure and find out where the file will be saved. 4. Use tab key to the save button and depress it by using the spacebar. 5. When download is complete bring up the run dialog box by using Windows key with R. 6. Use tab key to move to the browse button and press spacebar. 7. Use tab key or shift with tab until you are at the list of files in the current folder. You can use this browse dialog box to find your downloaded file. If focus is not in the right folder you can use backspace when in the list to move back one level in the folder structure. For example, if the file is in the downloads folder under your user folder then use backspace until you find the list with your user folder and open it by pressing enter key. In the resulting list move to downloads and press enter key and then find your file. Hopefully you understand how to browse to the downloaded file. If not feel free to let me know and I can send you more info on working in the folder hierarchy of Windows. 8. When you find the downloaded file in the browse dialog press enter key on it. 9. Focus should be back in the run dialog box. Use tab key until you are in the edit combo box that has the path of the file. 10.Press end key to move to the end of the path. The last part of the file name ends with exe (e x e). Make sure to add a space after the last E. 11.Type in /type repair (that is a forward slash followed by the word type then a space then the word repair). 12.Press enter and follow prompts. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 3:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS All JAWS users, My previous email may have been linked with the email I had sent a while back regarding the pressing of a letter in a word document such as the letter N would bring up a new document and the letter D would bring up the JAWS dictionary. This is very annoying since many words contain the letter N and the letter D. My email earlier today was regarding quick keys being turned off while on the internet. I am finding that quick keys which I believe is the culprit to all my JAWS problems is being very problematic for me. The response I received a while back was to run a JAWS repair and see if that fixes the problem. Now my issue with running a JAWS repair is where to go on the freedom scientific website to accomplish the repair. I went to the JAWS 10 32 bit download and selected run from the run or save menu. Then it got to the setup wizard and I selected next. Each window I have checked for the repair option with no luck. I eventually got to a point where it said it could not be installed because it already exist. Please any help on this issue
Re: [JAWS-Users] PLACE MARKERS
Thanks to everyone who responded to my post. I am now able to set, remove and locate placemarkers. Pete For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating without losing previous version JAWS
You don't lose past versions.You have ten installed and eleven will install to a folder of its own without doing a thing to ten. At 03:28 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote: How do you go about installing the newest version, but have it separate from the version you already have? EG, I'd like to keep my version 10 for some things and yet have 11.x for others. I'll just bring each up by their number. Many thanks! Vicky For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file
Some of my very important documents have been sent to me from places like banks and legal places, but they are in picture PDF form. I did look on the programs page and thought the PDF to OCR would be perfect, but when extracted it shows a list of 8 things and I have no idea what any of these items does. There isn't a help file, and there doesn't seem to be menus for conversion or places where you can select a PDF file and folder to browse, etc. I don't even see it in programs in start menu or on desktop. It simply unzips unrecognizable folders but I don't feel it's completely installed. If someone has a solution for this or even another easier program so Jaws can read these image files, please let me know. Thanks. Joanne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF toOCR file
JoAnne, I'm not entirely clear on your issue but think it is similar to the issue I face when I get my gas electric bill via PDF attachment. The only way I know to convert a PDF image or picture that actually contains text is to print it out on your printer and then scan the printed version back into your computer which will use your OCR program. In my case it is OmniPage version 15. I know this is a pain but that is the way I have found to get around it when needed. Maybe others have something more creative? Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Joanne Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF toOCR file Some of my very important documents have been sent to me from places like banks and legal places, but they are in picture PDF form. I did look on the programs page and thought the PDF to OCR would be perfect, but when extracted it shows a list of 8 things and I have no idea what any of these items does. There isn't a help file, and there doesn't seem to be menus for conversion or places where you can select a PDF file and folder to browse, etc. I don't even see it in programs in start menu or on desktop. It simply unzips unrecognizable folders but I don't feel it's completely installed. If someone has a solution for this or even another easier program so Jaws can read these image files, please let me know. Thanks. Joanne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file
Hi. Just a couple of questions before i give my opinion, I'm assuming that at this stage, adobe reader doesn't give any output at all, even when accessibility options are set? if it did, then you could just export them as text files. Secondly, are you using GMail? if you were, they offer an option to view PDF atachments as HTML files. Thirdly, couldn't omnipage just import the PDF files? i know that option's available in version 17? and finally, if the omnipage isn't an option for you, you could perhaps try PDF to word converter. HTH, Mo. Joanne wrote: Some of my very important documents have been sent to me from places like banks and legal places, but they are in picture PDF form. I did look on the programs page and thought the PDF to OCR would be perfect, but when extracted it shows a list of 8 things and I have no idea what any of these items does. There isn't a help file, and there doesn't seem to be menus for conversion or places where you can select a PDF file and folder to browse, etc. I don't even see it in programs in start menu or on desktop. It simply unzips unrecognizable folders but I don't feel it's completely installed. If someone has a solution for this or even another easier program so Jaws can read these image files, please let me know. Thanks. Joanne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file
Joanne, There are at least two kinds of PDF formats. If the file is actually a picture of something like a bank statement, what is on the paper is actually a graphic, and it sounds like that's what you have. Some people have had some success with scanning software but generally those programs require a lot of cleanup to the scanned file. I run a transcription business and have had 14 years of experience with such files. We generally ask the sender to provide us a different format of the file such as .doc, .rtf, or even .txt. Some of the software out there now is fairly good, but we have not found it to be reliable enough for many things because of the varied use of fonts and strange symbols. The other kind of pdf is one that was created in some sort of wordprocessor and then made into a pdf. You can tell if the file you have is one of those by going to your File Menu in Acrobat Reader and check to see if there is a Save as Text option. You can then save it as a text file and open it in your preferred wordprocessor. I have had varying degrees of success with copying a pdf to my clipboard and pasting it into Word, but if you have a graphic to start with, that will not help. There are probably others on this list who are much more versed in the technical workings of all of this, and I sure hope they have some suggestions for you that I can use. Betsy At 01:02 AM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Some of my very important documents have been sent to me from places like banks and legal places, but they are in picture PDF form. I did look on the programs page and thought the PDF to OCR would be perfect, but when extracted it shows a list of 8 things and I have no idea what any of these items does. There isn't a help file, and there doesn't seem to be menus for conversion or places where you can select a PDF file and folder to browse, etc. I don't even see it in programs in start menu or on desktop. It simply unzips unrecognizable folders but I don't feel it's completely installed. If someone has a solution for this or even another easier program so Jaws can read these image files, please let me know. Thanks. Joanne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS
Don, Thank you for the information. To answer your question yes it does help to reboot. However, rebooting frequently defeats the purpose of buying the full version in my opinion. - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS I am not sure your diagnosis is correct. It is easy to blame a feature in which you are not familiar. Quick Keys are very productive and have been copied by most screen readers. At some point you should give them a chance. In Word, it niormally requires Control + N to open a new document and JAWSKey (CapsLock for a laptop keyboard layout or Insert for a desktop layout) + D to open the Dictionary Manager. Perhaps you have more thabn one key on your keyboard sticking? Does it help to reboot the computer? JAWS does not like to perform a repair from different updates downloaded from the web. It works fine if you installed from the CD and never updated from the web. But who ever does that? There are ways to force the repair. I can not remember the details. I just uninstall the damaged version and install again. You may need another version of JAWS installed or use another screen reader to do this with speech. Quick Keys can be turned off for the session in Internet Explorer by pressing JAWSKey )CapsLock for a laptop keyboard, Insert for a desktop layout) + N or in the Adjust JAWS Verbosity by pressing JAWSKey + V, hitting the letter n until you hear Navigation Keysand hit Space until you hear off, then Enter. Navigation Keys can also be turned off temporarily in Word by pressing JAWSKey + Z or through the Adjust JAWS Verbosity by pressing JAWSKey + V, hitting the letter E until you hear Easy Navigation Keysand hit Space until you hear off, then Enter. To turn these off permanantly, open the Configuration Manager by pressing JAWSKey + 6 in the numbers row, then press Control + Shift + D. Press Alt + S to open the Settings menu and press K to open the Keyboard Options dialog. The first set of radio buttons controls the Quick Keys navigation feature. Arrow down to off and hit Enter. Save the settings in Configuration Manager by pressing Control + S, then close with Alt + F4. Performing Don Marang -- From: Josh lawdog...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS All JAWS users, My previous email may have been linked with the email I had sent a while back regarding the pressing of a letter in a word document such as the letter N would bring up a new document and the letter D would bring up the JAWS dictionary. This is very annoying since many words contain the letter N and the letter D. My email earlier today was regarding quick keys being turned off while on the internet. I am finding that quick keys which I believe is the culprit to all my JAWS problems is being very problematic for me. The response I received a while back was to run a JAWS repair and see if that fixes the problem. Now my issue with running a JAWS repair is where to go on the freedom scientific website to accomplish the repair. I went to the JAWS 10 32 bit download and selected run from the run or save menu. Then it got to the setup wizard and I selected next. Each window I have checked for the repair option with no luck. I eventually got to a point where it said it could not be installed because it already exist. Please any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated and please be very detailed in the instruction since I am still fairly new to JAWS My equipment: Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop with XP (OS) running JAWS 10 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF toOCR file
If you have Kurzweil or Openbook, print it from the .pdf document into the Virtual or Freedom Import Printer respectively. - Original Message - From: Joanne countrymom...@embarqmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF toOCR file Some of my very important documents have been sent to me from places like banks and legal places, but they are in picture PDF form. I did look on the programs page and thought the PDF to OCR would be perfect, but when extracted it shows a list of 8 things and I have no idea what any of these items does. There isn't a help file, and there doesn't seem to be menus for conversion or places where you can select a PDF file and folder to browse, etc. I don't even see it in programs in start menu or on desktop. It simply unzips unrecognizable folders but I don't feel it's completely installed. If someone has a solution for this or even another easier program so Jaws can read these image files, please let me know. Thanks. Joanne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file
Also, there was a service you could use free of charge as well, www.spokentext.net they provide conversion from PDF/Doc/RTF/TXT format to others. Mo. Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote: Joanne, There are at least two kinds of PDF formats. If the file is actually a picture of something like a bank statement, what is on the paper is actually a graphic, and it sounds like that's what you have. Some people have had some success with scanning software but generally those programs require a lot of cleanup to the scanned file. I run a transcription business and have had 14 years of experience with such files. We generally ask the sender to provide us a different format of the file such as .doc, .rtf, or even .txt. Some of the software out there now is fairly good, but we have not found it to be reliable enough for many things because of the varied use of fonts and strange symbols. The other kind of pdf is one that was created in some sort of wordprocessor and then made into a pdf. You can tell if the file you have is one of those by going to your File Menu in Acrobat Reader and check to see if there is a Save as Text option. You can then save it as a text file and open it in your preferred wordprocessor. I have had varying degrees of success with copying a pdf to my clipboard and pasting it into Word, but if you have a graphic to start with, that will not help. There are probably others on this list who are much more versed in the technical workings of all of this, and I sure hope they have some suggestions for you that I can use. Betsy At 01:02 AM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Some of my very important documents have been sent to me from places like banks and legal places, but they are in picture PDF form. I did look on the programs page and thought the PDF to OCR would be perfect, but when extracted it shows a list of 8 things and I have no idea what any of these items does. There isn't a help file, and there doesn't seem to be menus for conversion or places where you can select a PDF file and folder to browse, etc. I don't even see it in programs in start menu or on desktop. It simply unzips unrecognizable folders but I don't feel it's completely installed. If someone has a solution for this or even another easier program so Jaws can read these image files, please let me know. Thanks. Joanne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS
Sorry, I asked as part of a troubleshooting process of the problem, not as a solution. You need to find the root of the issue, such as the JAWS Navigation keys not working or a hardware or software problem with your keyboard. Trying a USB keyboard if available, might help isolate the problem. Again, this is a troubleshooting step, not a solution. By the way, in Word, the D and N keys should move you through footnotes and comments in your document. Don Marang -- From: Josh lawdog...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS Don, Thank you for the information. To answer your question yes it does help to reboot. However, rebooting frequently defeats the purpose of buying the full version in my opinion. - Original Message - From: Donald Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS I am not sure your diagnosis is correct. It is easy to blame a feature in which you are not familiar. Quick Keys are very productive and have been copied by most screen readers. At some point you should give them a chance. In Word, it niormally requires Control + N to open a new document and JAWSKey (CapsLock for a laptop keyboard layout or Insert for a desktop layout) + D to open the Dictionary Manager. Perhaps you have more thabn one key on your keyboard sticking? Does it help to reboot the computer? JAWS does not like to perform a repair from different updates downloaded from the web. It works fine if you installed from the CD and never updated from the web. But who ever does that? There are ways to force the repair. I can not remember the details. I just uninstall the damaged version and install again. You may need another version of JAWS installed or use another screen reader to do this with speech. Quick Keys can be turned off for the session in Internet Explorer by pressing JAWSKey )CapsLock for a laptop keyboard, Insert for a desktop layout) + N or in the Adjust JAWS Verbosity by pressing JAWSKey + V, hitting the letter n until you hear Navigation Keysand hit Space until you hear off, then Enter. Navigation Keys can also be turned off temporarily in Word by pressing JAWSKey + Z or through the Adjust JAWS Verbosity by pressing JAWSKey + V, hitting the letter E until you hear Easy Navigation Keysand hit Space until you hear off, then Enter. To turn these off permanantly, open the Configuration Manager by pressing JAWSKey + 6 in the numbers row, then press Control + Shift + D. Press Alt + S to open the Settings menu and press K to open the Keyboard Options dialog. The first set of radio buttons controls the Quick Keys navigation feature. Arrow down to off and hit Enter. Save the settings in Configuration Manager by pressing Control + S, then close with Alt + F4. Performing Don Marang -- From: Josh lawdog...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] QUICK KEYS All JAWS users, My previous email may have been linked with the email I had sent a while back regarding the pressing of a letter in a word document such as the letter N would bring up a new document and the letter D would bring up the JAWS dictionary. This is very annoying since many words contain the letter N and the letter D. My email earlier today was regarding quick keys being turned off while on the internet. I am finding that quick keys which I believe is the culprit to all my JAWS problems is being very problematic for me. The response I received a while back was to run a JAWS repair and see if that fixes the problem. Now my issue with running a JAWS repair is where to go on the freedom scientific website to accomplish the repair. I went to the JAWS 10 32 bit download and selected run from the run or save menu. Then it got to the setup wizard and I selected next. Each window I have checked for the repair option with no luck. I eventually got to a point where it said it could not be installed because it already exist. Please any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated and please be very detailed in the instruction since I am still fairly new to JAWS My equipment: Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop with XP (OS) running JAWS 10 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] THANKS TO THE ONES THAT RESPONDED TO MY POST ON QUICK KEYS
JAWS users, thanks for the detailed responses on my post about quick keys. Hopefully the help offered will fix my problems. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file
If you try this service with your document, please report back to the list. I've used them before but they couldn't help me with files that were graphics. I'm talking about the kind that you open in Acrobat and the message Empty Document appears. Betsy At 03:47 AM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Also, there was a service you could use free of charge as well, www.spokentext.net they provide conversion from PDF/Doc/RTF/TXT format to others. Mo. Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote: Joanne, There are at least two kinds of PDF formats. If the file is actually a picture of something like a bank statement, what is on the paper is actually a graphic, and it sounds like that's what you have. Some people have had some success with scanning software but generally those programs require a lot of cleanup to the scanned file. I run a transcription business and have had 14 years of experience with such files. We generally ask the sender to provide us a different format of the file such as .doc, .rtf, or even .txt. Some of the software out there now is fairly good, but we have not found it to be reliable enough for many things because of the varied use of fonts and strange symbols. The other kind of pdf is one that was created in some sort of wordprocessor and then made into a pdf. You can tell if the file you have is one of those by going to your File Menu in Acrobat Reader and check to see if there is a Save as Text option. You can then save it as a text file and open it in your preferred wordprocessor. I have had varying degrees of success with copying a pdf to my clipboard and pasting it into Word, but if you have a graphic to start with, that will not help. There are probably others on this list who are much more versed in the technical workings of all of this, and I sure hope they have some suggestions for you that I can use. Betsy At 01:02 AM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Some of my very important documents have been sent to me from places like banks and legal places, but they are in picture PDF form. I did look on the programs page and thought the PDF to OCR would be perfect, but when extracted it shows a list of 8 things and I have no idea what any of these items does. There isn't a help file, and there doesn't seem to be menus for conversion or places where you can select a PDF file and folder to browse, etc. I don't even see it in programs in start menu or on desktop. It simply unzips unrecognizable folders but I don't feel it's completely installed. If someone has a solution for this or even another easier program so Jaws can read these image files, please let me know. Thanks. Joanne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating without losing previous version JAWS
Thanks very much! Vicky - Original Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating without losing previous version JAWS You don't lose past versions.You have ten installed and eleven will install to a folder of its own without doing a thing to ten. At 03:28 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote: How do you go about installing the newest version, but have it separate from the version you already have? EG, I'd like to keep my version 10 for some things and yet have 11.x for others. I'll just bring each up by their number. Many thanks! Vicky For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file
And what about confidentiality? Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 10:55 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file If you try this service with your document, please report back to the list. I've used them before but they couldn't help me with files that were graphics. I'm talking about the kind that you open in Acrobat and the message Empty Document appears. Betsy At 03:47 AM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Also, there was a service you could use free of charge as well, www.spokentext.net they provide conversion from PDF/Doc/RTF/TXT format to others. Mo. Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote: Joanne, There are at least two kinds of PDF formats. If the file is actually a picture of something like a bank statement, what is on the paper is actually a graphic, and it sounds like that's what you have. Some people have had some success with scanning software but generally those programs require a lot of cleanup to the scanned file. I run a transcription business and have had 14 years of experience with such files. We generally ask the sender to provide us a different format of the file such as .doc, .rtf, or even .txt. Some of the software out there now is fairly good, but we have not found it to be reliable enough for many things because of the varied use of fonts and strange symbols. The other kind of pdf is one that was created in some sort of wordprocessor and then made into a pdf. You can tell if the file you have is one of those by going to your File Menu in Acrobat Reader and check to see if there is a Save as Text option. You can then save it as a text file and open it in your preferred wordprocessor. I have had varying degrees of success with copying a pdf to my clipboard and pasting it into Word, but if you have a graphic to start with, that will not help. There are probably others on this list who are much more versed in the technical workings of all of this, and I sure hope they have some suggestions for you that I can use. Betsy At 01:02 AM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Some of my very important documents have been sent to me from places like banks and legal places, but they are in picture PDF form. I did look on the programs page and thought the PDF to OCR would be perfect, but when extracted it shows a list of 8 things and I have no idea what any of these items does. There isn't a help file, and there doesn't seem to be menus for conversion or places where you can select a PDF file and folder to browse, etc. I don't even see it in programs in start menu or on desktop. It simply unzips unrecognizable folders but I don't feel it's completely installed. If someone has a solution for this or even another easier program so Jaws can read these image files, please let me know. Thanks. Joanne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Jaws and Microsoft.
Hi Folks, Are any of you aware of a list that deals with Jaws and Microsoft productivity software? TNX Larry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11
All of these problems you all are having have convinced me to hold off on installing jaws 11. It isn't an upgrade if things go backwards. I'm happy enough with jaws 10 but feel forced to buy the sma's whether I want them or not. Marilyn - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Using outlook 2003 with the latest jfw I too am experiencing issues in the listbox. However, my problem is that all the information is spoken twice before speaking the first few lines of text of the e-mail. After speaking to fs's escalation department and playing around with various settings and doing an uninstall/install, we didn't' resolve my issue, but I was told that my particular problem came up in the beta testing of the build, but that I was the first so far to report it with the final release. Maybe you can play with the customize outlook message settings or perhaps disable add ons (this is what fs had me do for example) and see if that helps... other then that, contacting fs would seem like a good option too. Who knows, maybe it's just another bug that got through the testing part. I'm still dealing with my problem that's for sure. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kerryann Ifill Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Hi List, I upgraded to the latest build of JFW last night and I'm having one challenge. I'm using outlook 2007 and whenever I arrow through my list, JFW is giving me a rather odd reading. In 10 it would only tell me the basic info. Now it gives me all kinds of info I don't really want. Any suggestions to make it behave like jfw 10? Regards Kerry Don't frown! You never know whose falling in love with your smile! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file
Hi, I found that if you have an image PDF document, you can use OmniPage (I have version 15) to scan the file, (not a print of the image PDF) and it will convert it to a readable document. At the moment, I don't remember the steps to go through this process, but it has worked for me before. Of course, this is assuming that you have OmniPage. I do have an image PDF and I will try to reproduce the process and let the list know how to do it. I should have something in a few days? Lennie At 12:06 PM 5/2/2010, you wrote: And what about confidentiality? Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 10:55 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file If you try this service with your document, please report back to the list. I've used them before but they couldn't help me with files that were graphics. I'm talking about the kind that you open in Acrobat and the message Empty Document appears. Betsy At 03:47 AM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Also, there was a service you could use free of charge as well, www.spokentext.net they provide conversion from PDF/Doc/RTF/TXT format to others. Mo. Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press wrote: Joanne, There are at least two kinds of PDF formats. If the file is actually a picture of something like a bank statement, what is on the paper is actually a graphic, and it sounds like that's what you have. Some people have had some success with scanning software but generally those programs require a lot of cleanup to the scanned file. I run a transcription business and have had 14 years of experience with such files. We generally ask the sender to provide us a different format of the file such as .doc, .rtf, or even .txt. Some of the software out there now is fairly good, but we have not found it to be reliable enough for many things because of the varied use of fonts and strange symbols. The other kind of pdf is one that was created in some sort of wordprocessor and then made into a pdf. You can tell if the file you have is one of those by going to your File Menu in Acrobat Reader and check to see if there is a Save as Text option. You can then save it as a text file and open it in your preferred wordprocessor. I have had varying degrees of success with copying a pdf to my clipboard and pasting it into Word, but if you have a graphic to start with, that will not help. There are probably others on this list who are much more versed in the technical workings of all of this, and I sure hope they have some suggestions for you that I can use. Betsy At 01:02 AM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Some of my very important documents have been sent to me from places like banks and legal places, but they are in picture PDF form. I did look on the programs page and thought the PDF to OCR would be perfect, but when extracted it shows a list of 8 things and I have no idea what any of these items does. There isn't a help file, and there doesn't seem to be menus for conversion or places where you can select a PDF file and folder to browse, etc. I don't even see it in programs in start menu or on desktop. It simply unzips unrecognizable folders but I don't feel it's completely installed. If someone has a solution for this or even another easier program so Jaws can read these image files, please let me know. Thanks. Joanne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11
It happen to me. Using live message and window 7. I notice that when I delete messages and I am in the edit box, jaws tries to read something is not there. It tends to read the name of the last email yet there is nothing there to read. Hope the fix with jaws 12 and not focus so much on researcher it. Is nice but jaws suppose to help with accessibility to program for us blind people. -- From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 All of these problems you all are having have convinced me to hold off on installing jaws 11. It isn't an upgrade if things go backwards. I'm happy enough with jaws 10 but feel forced to buy the sma's whether I want them or not. Marilyn - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Using outlook 2003 with the latest jfw I too am experiencing issues in the listbox. However, my problem is that all the information is spoken twice before speaking the first few lines of text of the e-mail. After speaking to fs's escalation department and playing around with various settings and doing an uninstall/install, we didn't' resolve my issue, but I was told that my particular problem came up in the beta testing of the build, but that I was the first so far to report it with the final release. Maybe you can play with the customize outlook message settings or perhaps disable add ons (this is what fs had me do for example) and see if that helps... other then that, contacting fs would seem like a good option too. Who knows, maybe it's just another bug that got through the testing part. I'm still dealing with my problem that's for sure. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kerryann Ifill Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Hi List, I upgraded to the latest build of JFW last night and I'm having one challenge. I'm using outlook 2007 and whenever I arrow through my list, JFW is giving me a rather odd reading. In 10 it would only tell me the basic info. Now it gives me all kinds of info I don't really want. Any suggestions to make it behave like jfw 10? Regards Kerry Don't frown! You never know whose falling in love with your smile! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Holger Fiallo Kind Regard For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11
Agreed. I'm having issues with the nov issue of jaws 11. It reads my console window even though I might have rs monopoly open. They need to get these bugs fixed or there will be some unhappy customers. S On May 2, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote: It happen to me. Using live message and window 7. I notice that when I delete messages and I am in the edit box, jaws tries to read something is not there. It tends to read the name of the last email yet there is nothing there to read. Hope the fix with jaws 12 and not focus so much on researcher it. Is nice but jaws suppose to help with accessibility to program for us blind people. -- From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 All of these problems you all are having have convinced me to hold off on installing jaws 11. It isn't an upgrade if things go backwards. I'm happy enough with jaws 10 but feel forced to buy the sma's whether I want them or not. Marilyn - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Using outlook 2003 with the latest jfw I too am experiencing issues in the listbox. However, my problem is that all the information is spoken twice before speaking the first few lines of text of the e-mail. After speaking to fs's escalation department and playing around with various settings and doing an uninstall/install, we didn't' resolve my issue, but I was told that my particular problem came up in the beta testing of the build, but that I was the first so far to report it with the final release. Maybe you can play with the customize outlook message settings or perhaps disable add ons (this is what fs had me do for example) and see if that helps... other then that, contacting fs would seem like a good option too. Who knows, maybe it's just another bug that got through the testing part. I'm still dealing with my problem that's for sure. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kerryann Ifill Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Hi List, I upgraded to the latest build of JFW last night and I'm having one challenge. I'm using outlook 2007 and whenever I arrow through my list, JFW is giving me a rather odd reading. In 10 it would only tell me the basic info. Now it gives me all kinds of info I don't really want. Any suggestions to make it behave like jfw 10? Regards Kerry Don't frown! You never know whose falling in love with your smile! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Holger Fiallo Kind Regard For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Best way to update JAWS
Yeah true. It's always good to have a black up plan. I would download through the website even though it can be slow but it works if you want to install without an internet connection. On May 1, 2010, at 8:07 AM, CrisMunoz54 wrote: I always download the file from the site. Once I had my Internet connection give out halfway through the update process from within the jaws menu option and it was a pain to get everything back straight. This is why I just download the executable file first now and just do it that way. Also, if for whatever reason I need it, I'll still have the exe file on my drive... -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kate Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:43 AM To: JAW'S Users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best way to update JAWS Hi List, I'm wondering what the best way is to install an update. Is it better to update through the help menu or to go to the website and download the latest updated version? If the website is the better option, do I need to uninstall JAWS completely before updating or can I just update by installing the latest version over the top of the current version? I'm working with JAWS 11. Thank you. Kate __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5076 (20100430) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating without losing previous version JAWS
You cn't I don't think unless you install to a different program dir. I doh't know how you would do this in the updating process though. Tc S On May 1, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: How do you go about installing the newest version, but have it separate from the version you already have? EG, I'd like to keep my version 10 for some things and yet have 11.x for others. I'll just bring each up by their number. Many thanks! Vicky For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating without losing previous version JAWS
I thibk he's talking about the minor updates to the versions. Take care. S On May 2, 2010, at 2:45 AM, tim wrote: You don't lose past versions.You have ten installed and eleven will install to a folder of its own without doing a thing to ten. At 03:28 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote: How do you go about installing the newest version, but have it separate from the version you already have? EG, I'd like to keep my version 10 for some things and yet have 11.x for others. I'll just bring each up by their number. Many thanks! Vicky For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder
How do you have spam come to your spam mail folder in outlook Express 07? Using Jaws 11. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11
I am now getting an intermittent problem in tables in MS Word - when using the control, alt and cursor keys, every so often JFW has a wobbly and reverts to saying unknown script call... and only a shut down and restart of JFW will sort it out. I am also having difficulties with web pages using IE 8 where, apparently at random, both the alt + left cursor and the backspace key refuse to execute a back command to the previous webpage, the only solution being to go into the IE menus and select it from there. This may, however, be an IE problem... All the best, Barry G - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 All of these problems you all are having have convinced me to hold off on installing jaws 11. It isn't an upgrade if things go backwards. I'm happy enough with jaws 10 but feel forced to buy the sma's whether I want them or not. Marilyn - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Using outlook 2003 with the latest jfw I too am experiencing issues in the listbox. However, my problem is that all the information is spoken twice before speaking the first few lines of text of the e-mail. After speaking to fs's escalation department and playing around with various settings and doing an uninstall/install, we didn't' resolve my issue, but I was told that my particular problem came up in the beta testing of the build, but that I was the first so far to report it with the final release. Maybe you can play with the customize outlook message settings or perhaps disable add ons (this is what fs had me do for example) and see if that helps... other then that, contacting fs would seem like a good option too. Who knows, maybe it's just another bug that got through the testing part. I'm still dealing with my problem that's for sure. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kerryann Ifill Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Hi List, I upgraded to the latest build of JFW last night and I'm having one challenge. I'm using outlook 2007 and whenever I arrow through my list, JFW is giving me a rather odd reading. In 10 it would only tell me the basic info. Now it gives me all kinds of info I don't really want. Any suggestions to make it behave like jfw 10? Regards Kerry Don't frown! You never know whose falling in love with your smile! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5080 (20100502) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5080 (20100502) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] blackboard
I use it and I hate it. there are a ton of fraims in my case I have to deal with and colaps things through links and stuff. My university did not do a good job at there implimentation of black board at all. Take care. On Apr 30, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Phil Templet wrote: That is what I am trying to determine. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:43 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] blackboard Hmm. Blackboard, i've not seen any unfortunately. Is it accessible? its one of the programs i haven't tried yet. Mo. Phil Templet wrote: Is anyone aware of tutorials which help with lerning how to use Blackboard and Jaws in conjunction with one another? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Microsoft.
Hello Larry, The one list I know of is for Office2007. To join it send a blank message to office2007-j...@gatewayfortheblind.com. Hope this helps, Greg W.- Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer lar...@infowest.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:24 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Microsoft. Hi Folks, Are any of you aware of a list that deals with Jaws and Microsoft productivity software? TNX Larry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating without losing previous version JAWS
Vicky, I'm not sure if you got this or not. But just in case, when you locate the Jaws 11 download link on the Freedom web site, yu are given the option to Run or Save. If you choose Save, you can download a file to a pre-determined folder. Then, yu can install the file separately. However, Jaws does give you the option of removing those files which are used by other programsand in that case, you would choose not to uninstall the files. I don't think that Jaws over-writes previous versions when it's installed but what it does do is to turn that earlier version off. It's still there and if you can find the .exe file you can create a shortcut right on your desktop to load either Jaws 10 or Jaws 11. I did that with previous versions anyway because I wasn't sure about the newer version. But I think you have to actively choose to uninstall earlier Jaws versions. Otherwise, they stay in your computer. John Justice -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victoria Vaughan Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating without losing previous version JAWS Thanks very much! Vicky - Original Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating without losing previous version JAWS You don't lose past versions.You have ten installed and eleven will install to a folder of its own without doing a thing to ten. At 03:28 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote: How do you go about installing the newest version, but have it separate from the version you already have? EG, I'd like to keep my version 10 for some things and yet have 11.x for others. I'll just bring each up by their number. Many thanks! Vicky For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Is this a jaws problem?
Using jfw 11(latest update) and win xp sp3 and here's what happens: Using the run dialog to access a website, the page comes up fine. However: when using the jaws cursor, I can read the page, but I don't here any links, headings or whatever. When using the virtual cursor, I can only read the first line of the page. Sometimes quitting jfw and relaunching solved the problem, but not today. Is there anything, short of replacing this machine with a Mac, that I can do? P.S. My next computer is going to be a mac, notwithstanding any learning curves. Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Is this a jaws problem?
I think is a jaws 11 issue. I have the same problem with reading text from a field when I am chatting with someone. I get graphic and so. I need to close jaws and restart it. JAWS 11 is becoming a headache. -- From: Doug Leavens df.leav...@shaw.ca Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 2:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Is this a jaws problem? Using jfw 11(latest update) and win xp sp3 and here's what happens: Using the run dialog to access a website, the page comes up fine. However: when using the jaws cursor, I can read the page, but I don't here any links, headings or whatever. When using the virtual cursor, I can only read the first line of the page. Sometimes quitting jfw and relaunching solved the problem, but not today. Is there anything, short of replacing this machine with a Mac, that I can do? P.S. My next computer is going to be a mac, notwithstanding any learning curves. Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Holger Fiallo Kind Regard For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder
Hi Nicole, There is no Outlook Express 7. You are using Outlook Express 6 To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a spam folder in Outlook Express, by default, unless your security software created one there. HTH, - Original Message - From: Nicole goldyemo...@gmail.com To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:16 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder How do you have spam come to your spam mail folder in outlook Express 07? Using Jaws 11. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder
I meant 6. My security settings have created one. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder Hi Nicole, There is no Outlook Express 7. You are using Outlook Express 6 To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a spam folder in Outlook Express, by default, unless your security software created one there. HTH, - Original Message - From: Nicole goldyemo...@gmail.com To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:16 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder How do you have spam come to your spam mail folder in outlook Express 07? Using Jaws 11. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF toOCR file
hi well you can try pdf to txt converter it is found on the programs page on the jaws-users websight. hth. from Mich. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file
Hello Joanne, If when you open the PDF in the Adobe Reader you hear alert: empty document announced then the file is likely an image of a printed page that has been scanned. I found that a small freeware program called FreeOCR can usually do quite a good job on this kind of file. If you have Kurzweil, OpenBook, OmniPage or another commercial OCR program then you should be able to run OCR on the file and get the desired results. Here is a link to FreeOCR if you want to download it. After the link are some steps to follow when using the program for a scanned image file. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3951772/freeocr.exe 1.Install FreeOCR by pressing enter key or double-clicking on the downloaded file. 2.Follow prompts to install the software. An icon will be created on the desktop. 3.You might want to restart your system when installation is complete, although the program doesn't tell you that a restart is required. 4.Press enter key or double-click the FreeOCR icon on the desktop to start the program. 5.Use Alt+F to bring up the file menu, use down arrow to the load PDF choice and press enter key. 6.Browse to the PDF file to be used and open it. 7.Press alt+O to go into the OCR menu and press enter key on the start OCR process choice. 8.Use tab key to move into the edit area that tells you that focus is in page 1. 9.After waiting some time for processing to finish use Alt+T to go into the text menu, use down arrow to the copy text to clipboard choice and press enter key. 10. Open up your word processing program and paste the text. 11. The top few lines will be text from the FreeOCR program so you can select it and delete it. The main text of the document should start right after the text you are going to delete. 12. An alternative to copying the text to the clipboard is to use the save text choice in the text menu of FreeOCR after processing the image file. A dialog box will appear for you to name the file and save it where you want it. You can then open the file in Notepad from where it is stored. I have had success using programs to change the PDF to TIF files and then using the Microsoft Document Writer to extract the text into a document, but this program actually gave me better results and worked faster. If you have the Microsoft Document Image Writer installed you can do the following: 1. Open the PDF file in the Adobe Reader and you will hear alert: empty document. 2. Press CTRL+P to go into the print dialog box. 3. Use tab key to the list of printers and then use up or down arrow keys to find the Microsoft Document Image Writer choice and press enter key. 4. A SaveAs box will appear with .TIF shown in the file types list. Name the file and save it as a TIF file. 5. Open all programs from the start menu, open the Microsoft office group, open the Office tools, and use down arrow to the choice for Microsoft office Document Imaging. Press enter on that choice. 6. Press alt+T to go into the tools menu and press enter key on the recognize text using OCR choice. 7. A dialog box will appear where you can tell the program to recognize all pages. Use tab key to the OK button and press enter key. 8. Wait for processing to finish. 9. Press Alt+T again and use down arrow to the send text to Word choice and press enter key. 10.Use tab a couple of times and find out what the default location for the document will be and then tab to OK and press enter key. 11.Wait for the file to open in Microsoft Word. Although using the Microsoft Document Image Writer has worked for me, I have had better output using the FreeOCR program. It is also easier to use and you only need to use the one program. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] program and help needed for converting image PDF to OCR file Joanne, There are at least two kinds of PDF formats. If the file is actually a picture of something like a bank statement, what is on the paper is actually a graphic, and it sounds like that's what you have. Some people have had some success with scanning software but generally those programs require a lot of cleanup to the scanned file. I run a transcription business and have had 14 years of experience with such files. We generally ask the sender to provide us a different format of the file such as .doc, .rtf, or even .txt. Some of the software out there now is fairly good, but we have not found it to be reliable enough for many things because of the varied use of fonts and strange symbols. The other kind of pdf is one that was created in some sort of wordprocessor and then made into a pdf. You can tell if the file you have is
Re: [JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder
Hi Nichole, We will need to know what security software you are using, before we are able to help you better. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Nicole goldyemo...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder I meant 6. My security settings have created one. - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder Hi Nicole, There is no Outlook Express 7. You are using Outlook Express 6 To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a spam folder in Outlook Express, by default, unless your security software created one there. HTH, - Original Message - From: Nicole goldyemo...@gmail.com To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:16 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spam Mail Folder How do you have spam come to your spam mail folder in outlook Express 07? Using Jaws 11. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] getting stuck in edit fields and address bar in IE
Hey, y'all, I'm using J11 and Windows XP, and I think IE 7. I keep getting stuck in edit fields or the address bar and can't get out without exiting Internet Explorer. Any ideas? Thanks a bunch, Erin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11
Everyone, be sure to report all your problems to FS. If they don't know, they can't fix. Jim -- From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Agreed. I'm having issues with the nov issue of jaws 11. It reads my console window even though I might have rs monopoly open. They need to get these bugs fixed or there will be some unhappy customers. S On May 2, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote: It happen to me. Using live message and window 7. I notice that when I delete messages and I am in the edit box, jaws tries to read something is not there. It tends to read the name of the last email yet there is nothing there to read. Hope the fix with jaws 12 and not focus so much on researcher it. Is nice but jaws suppose to help with accessibility to program for us blind people. -- From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 All of these problems you all are having have convinced me to hold off on installing jaws 11. It isn't an upgrade if things go backwards. I'm happy enough with jaws 10 but feel forced to buy the sma's whether I want them or not. Marilyn - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Using outlook 2003 with the latest jfw I too am experiencing issues in the listbox. However, my problem is that all the information is spoken twice before speaking the first few lines of text of the e-mail. After speaking to fs's escalation department and playing around with various settings and doing an uninstall/install, we didn't' resolve my issue, but I was told that my particular problem came up in the beta testing of the build, but that I was the first so far to report it with the final release. Maybe you can play with the customize outlook message settings or perhaps disable add ons (this is what fs had me do for example) and see if that helps... other then that, contacting fs would seem like a good option too. Who knows, maybe it's just another bug that got through the testing part. I'm still dealing with my problem that's for sure. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kerryann Ifill Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW11 Hi List, I upgraded to the latest build of JFW last night and I'm having one challenge. I'm using outlook 2007 and whenever I arrow through my list, JFW is giving me a rather odd reading. In 10 it would only tell me the basic info. Now it gives me all kinds of info I don't really want. Any suggestions to make it behave like jfw 10? Regards Kerry Don't frown! You never know whose falling in love with your smile! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Holger Fiallo Kind Regard For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] going no mail
Hi, Ok, I will play psychic and predict that folks will instruct me to click on the signature at the bottom of the email to find my answer. However, I did and cannot seem to find the option for no mail, can someone help? I am going on a months vacation and do not want to receive posts until further notice. Thanks people and if I do not receive any guidance, I am not oppose to deleting everything upon my return, good night folks! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
