Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error
If the talking installer isn’t talking then this points to some more fundamental issue with the laptop. Have you checked to see if Narrator talks? I have seen issues before where certain sound drivers disturb the speech in both narrator and eloquence. Go to device manager and uninstall your sound card, reboot your machine and then try uninstalling and installing jaws again. Bob -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: 13 October 2013 05:40 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP installed Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not even the all users documents and settings and I now see why several don't choose HP but go with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP doesn't come to you to service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP partitioned Windows 7 at all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me a Dell laptop so I can put JAWS on there and not have this problem because it will be a fresh install of Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows 7 disk to do the fresh install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, unless this new talking installation of Windows installation I just heard about from Top Tech Tidbits would help, but in that case I'd still have to have the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installer disks and that might as well be expensive...so, JAWS has come to a stalemate with me, and I don't think the FS team will be able to help me, but I guess it will be worth the call on Monday...and if nothing changes then, I'm just going to have to use NVDA until I get my computer Rehab will purchase for me. Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin' right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 9:05 PM, Chela Robles wrote: The problem is that I'm not seeing rC:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific after, one, uninstalling it, two, removing both Freedom Scientific folders in Program Files and Program files (x86) locations, then I try to put in that above path which windows doesn't find so I can't delete the JAWS folder under it for JAWS 14. Wow this must be a world record of my having the longest JAWS issue ever LOL, but seriously, can't wait for 15 to come out, would be cool if when one does a repair switch from the directions from the FS team, that it would autodetect the files missing and just add automatically so this issue won't ever happen again, but I'm only dreaming big I guess...sigh, this is wearing me out. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you:
[JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs
when I go to my laptop’s control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
Hi Chela, Please take note, I changed the subject line to reflect the topic being discussed, since the introduction has already been made. In Windows 7, the Documents and Settings folder is hidden, that's why you don't see it. The folders and files you are looking for should be located in the following locations: C:\Users\your name\AppData\ C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (X86) HTH, Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP installed Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not even the all users documents and settings and I now see why several don't choose HP but go with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP doesn't come to you to service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP partitioned Windows 7 at all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me a Dell laptop so I can put JAWS on there and not have this problem because it will be a fresh install of Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows 7 disk to do the fresh install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, unless this new talking installation of Windows installation I just heard about from Top Tech Tidbits would help, but in that case I'd still have to have the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installer disks and that might as well be expensive...so, JAWS has come to a stalemate with me, and I don't think the FS team will be able to help me, but I guess it will be worth the call on Monday...and if nothing changes then, I'm just going to have to use NVDA until I get my computer Rehab will purchase for me. Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin' right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 9:05 PM, Chela Robles wrote: The problem is that I'm not seeing rC:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific after, one, uninstalling it, two, removing both Freedom Scientific folders in Program Files and Program files (x86) locations, then I try to put in that above path which windows doesn't find so I can't delete the JAWS folder under it for JAWS 14. Wow this must be a world record of my having the longest JAWS issue ever LOL, but seriously, can't wait for 15 to come out, would be cool if when one does a repair switch from the directions from the FS team, that it would autodetect the files missing and just add automatically so this issue won't ever happen again, but I'm only dreaming big I guess...sigh, this is wearing me out. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you:
Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs
Hi T, If you don't know which version of Windows you are using, it will be harder for others to help you. If you are using Windows XP, Add/Remove Programs will show up in the control panel. If you are using Windows 7, it will be listed as Programs and Features. Also, if you are using Windows 7, when you press the Windows key for the start menu, the first thing you should hear is menu search box edit. HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: t. conley n4the...@live.com To: jul jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs when I go to my laptop’s control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs
thank you so much. you solved both of my problems with the same answer -Original Message- From: Rick Justice Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:15 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs Hi T, If you don't know which version of Windows you are using, it will be harder for others to help you. If you are using Windows XP, Add/Remove Programs will show up in the control panel. If you are using Windows 7, it will be listed as Programs and Features. Also, if you are using Windows 7, when you press the Windows key for the start menu, the first thing you should hear is menu search box edit. HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: t. conley n4the...@live.com To: jul jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs when I go to my laptop’s control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs
Hmm, well. Let me think. What version of windows do you have. You don't know it. Ok, a easy way is if you can get a description of your windows. For example, when you press the windo key, you heard something like Start menu, to navigate up or down arrow? then you have windows xp. but if you heard something like Start menu, search box edit. . type text in this edit box or up or down arrow... then you have windows 7. Now, if you have windows xp, you will have on the start menu, the control panel, or you will have something called settings, and inside will be control panel. Then when you have control panel open, you should press tab, until you heard something like clasic view. Press enter here, and you will get the icon of add and remove programs. The clasic view shows the most part of the settings available in windows xp. If you have windows 7, is not very different, when is open control panel, you should press tab until you heard clasic view. - Original Message - From: t. conley n4the...@live.com To: jul jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs when I go to my laptop’s control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS
Hello All, I am looking for recommendations for how a JAWS 12 or 14 user can provide feedback and recommended edits to a MS-Word 2010 document. Everyone on the team provides their input to the document through track changes or by making pen marks on the hardcopy. The business need of the task flow will determine the order in which each team member receives the document for their input. The second person gets to see the first person's feedback, and the third person gets to see the feedback from both the first and second person. This is to eliminate duplication, making it easier for the final person to make decisions about what will be changed. It is clear to everyone that the hardcopy method needs to be eliminated and everyone needs to provide their feedback electronically, or a human reader needs to be provided as an accommodation. If electronic is the path taken, here are my questions. 1.Is there a viable way for a JAWS user to gain valuable information from track changes. I have not figured out how, so any feedback, suggestions, and/or recommended resources to learn how to do this will be appreciated. 2. Is there any improvements in the use of MS-Words Comment feature with JAWS 14? For me it appears that the access to the Comments feature in MS-Word 2010 by JAWS 12 has been broken. I used to use it in Office 2003. I would highlight the character, word, phrase, etc. and insert a comment containing my suggested changes, question, recommendations, etc. Is it possible to use the comments feature in MS-Word 2010 and some version of JAWS? 3. If anyone has a suggestion for a different way of accomplishing this task, your feedback will be appreciated. Thanks, Annette For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error
Narrator works and I don't feel like taking my chance of not having any sound at all by uninstalling the built-in sound card which is Realtech -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 1:01 AM, Bob wrote: If the talking installer isn’t talking then this points to some more fundamental issue with the laptop. Have you checked to see if Narrator talks? I have seen issues before where certain sound drivers disturb the speech in both narrator and eloquence. Go to device manager and uninstall your sound card, reboot your machine and then try uninstalling and installing jaws again. Bob -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: 13 October 2013 05:40 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP installed Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not even the all users documents and settings and I now see why several don't choose HP but go with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP doesn't come to you to service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP partitioned Windows 7 at all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me a Dell laptop so I can put JAWS on there and not have this problem because it will be a fresh install of Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows 7 disk to do the fresh install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, unless this new talking installation of Windows installation I just heard about from Top Tech Tidbits would help, but in that case I'd still have to have the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installer disks and that might as well be expensive...so, JAWS has come to a stalemate with me, and I don't think the FS team will be able to help me, but I guess it will be worth the call on Monday...and if nothing changes then, I'm just going to have to use NVDA until I get my computer Rehab will purchase for me. Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin' right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 9:05 PM, Chela Robles wrote: The problem is that I'm not seeing rC:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific after, one, uninstalling it, two, removing both Freedom Scientific folders in Program Files and Program files (x86) locations, then I try to put in that above path which windows doesn't find so I can't delete the JAWS folder under it for JAWS 14. Wow this must be a world record of my having the longest JAWS issue ever LOL, but seriously, can't wait for 15 to come out, would be cool if when one does a repair switch from the directions from the FS team, that it would autodetect the
Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs
In windows 7 it should be a link, the question of whether the programs show up or not in the list to uninstall, which seems to be not the case with me, actually, the programs don't show up as a list like it did when I used to have WinXP, but they don't show up in add/remove programs nor the uninstall a program feature under programs and features. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:57 AM, t. conley wrote: when I go to my laptop’s control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ . For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
Ok I went under the first folder option using my username, and I saw the following and don't know what to look for and to do after that. The list I see is: Local, LocalLow and Roaming. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 5:08 AM, Moderator wrote: Hi Chela, Please take note, I changed the subject line to reflect the topic being discussed, since the introduction has already been made. In Windows 7, the Documents and Settings folder is hidden, that's why you don't see it. The folders and files you are looking for should be located in the following locations: C:\Users\your name\AppData\ C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (X86) HTH, Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP installed Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not even the all users documents and settings and I now see why several don't choose HP but go with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP doesn't come to you to service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP partitioned Windows 7 at all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me a Dell laptop so I can put JAWS on there and not have this problem because it will be a fresh install of Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows 7 disk to do the fresh install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, unless this new talking installation of Windows installation I just heard about from Top Tech Tidbits would help, but in that case I'd still have to have the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installer disks and that might as well be expensive...so, JAWS has come to a stalemate with me, and I don't think the FS team will be able to help me, but I guess it will be worth the call on Monday...and if nothing changes then, I'm just going to have to use NVDA until I get my computer Rehab will purchase for me. Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin' right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 9:05 PM, Chela Robles wrote: The problem is that I'm not seeing rC:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific after, one, uninstalling it, two, removing both Freedom Scientific folders in Program Files and Program files (x86) locations, then I try to put in that above path which windows doesn't find so I can't delete the JAWS folder under it for JAWS 14. Wow this must be a world record of my having the longest JAWS issue ever LOL, but seriously, can't wait for 15 to come out, would be cool if when one does a repair switch from the
Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs
when you are in control panel, find programs and features. There find jaws, and with the application key, down arrow until uninstall. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs In windows 7 it should be a link, the question of whether the programs show up or not in the list to uninstall, which seems to be not the case with me, actually, the programs don't show up as a list like it did when I used to have WinXP, but they don't show up in add/remove programs nor the uninstall a program feature under programs and features. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:57 AM, t. conley wrote: when I go to my laptop’s control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ . For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS
I was looking at my granddaughter's Samsung Galaxy tablet yesterday which had a bluetooth keyboard in it's case and it got me wondering if any of the tablets sold today would work with JAWS 14. Hers is an Android system and I don't know if that comes with screen reading software or not. does anyone have experience with any of the tablets available and if so, what can you tell me or advise? Thanks for any help. Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs
Or alternatively I could do what I just did, type in the search box in the start menu the words uninstall jaws which did it for me. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 7:39 AM, Pablo Morales wrote: when you are in control panel, find programs and features. There find jaws, and with the application key, down arrow until uninstall. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs In windows 7 it should be a link, the question of whether the programs show up or not in the list to uninstall, which seems to be not the case with me, actually, the programs don't show up as a list like it did when I used to have WinXP, but they don't show up in add/remove programs nor the uninstall a program feature under programs and features. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:57 AM, t. conley wrote: when I go to my laptop’s control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ . For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] how to learn how to use WLM 2012.
Hi all, ok I am behind the times, but I don’t know how to use WLM 2012. One thing is, I don’t understand how to use the ribbon, and I don’t know how to set up my BCC field and set up my rules in this thing. So, what to do? I am using jaws 15, latest beta, and WLM 2012 on a windows 7 home premium computer. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
Hello All, I think I'm finally getting somewhere, but you can kindly input whether or not I'm on the right track of thinking seeing as is I'm still waking up and have already gotten ready for church, so here is what I was able to do and here is what I'm thinking. I went into my user appdata folder and went to where it says roaming then I found Freedom Scientific. Should I delete this folder since I'm going to do a fresh install of JAWS since I already uninstalled JAWS and the Freedom Scientific folders in both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) folders now it is seen in the app data roaming folder under my username so was just wondering if I should delete it? -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 5:08 AM, Moderator wrote: Hi Chela, Please take note, I changed the subject line to reflect the topic being discussed, since the introduction has already been made. In Windows 7, the Documents and Settings folder is hidden, that's why you don't see it. The folders and files you are looking for should be located in the following locations: C:\Users\your name\AppData\ C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (X86) HTH, Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP installed Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not even the all users documents and settings and I now see why several don't choose HP but go with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP doesn't come to you to service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP partitioned Windows 7 at all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me a Dell laptop so I can put JAWS on there and not have this problem because it will be a fresh install of Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows 7 disk to do the fresh install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, unless this new talking installation of Windows installation I just heard about from Top Tech Tidbits would help, but in that case I'd still have to have the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installer disks and that might as well be expensive...so, JAWS has come to a stalemate with me, and I don't think the FS team will be able to help me, but I guess it will be worth the call on Monday...and if nothing changes then, I'm just going to have to use NVDA until I get my computer Rehab will purchase for me. Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin' right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 9:05 PM, Chela Robles wrote: The problem is that I'm not seeing
Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error
Do you have your Pc set to show hidden files? - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Ok I uninstalled JAWS again and after removing the folders that are labeled Freedom Scientific in both Program Folders and Program Files (x86) and then I inputted the path C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific in the run dialog box using windows r and got the folowing error saying it couldn't find C:\documents and that I should make sure I typed it correctly which I did and try again with an OK button. There aren't any settings for Freedom Scientific JAWS and anything related to Freedom Scientific products for Linda the main user and not even for me, Chela. Weird just keeps getting more strange and I feel like I'm dumb stumped. Never have I had this problem before when I had version 10 on my xp machine that died and lived its life to its potential and it was a 32-bit system. Hmmm! -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 6:35 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: No, the registry, doesn't store files. Registry just indicate keys for windows. For example, if we have installed jaws in C:\All Programs\Freedom\Jaws, then the registry just indicate the path for that program. Of course, registry indicate a lot of things, keys, paths, and sub keys for dll that are needed for windows. You can clean your registry of keys that are not linked to anything, or information that is making process not eficient. I use cCleaner for this kind of problems. Really the registry is more that I am telling you, but in a few words. The registry is a kind of guides, and indications for run the operated system, and all programs installed in your computer. P - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Perhaps there are files left over in the registry? How would I be able to check it if it has jaws stuff in the registry? -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 3:50 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: My suggestion is this; 1. uninstall jaws 14. 2. delete the freedom scientific folder that is in all programs. 3. If in windows 7 do you have more than one user, you should delete the setting configuration stored in c:\users\YourUser\app\freedom 4. Reinstall jaws 14 of 64 bits. Just one thing. Try to place the UAC level in 50%, no more than this. Reinstall jaws, and let us know how it goes. P - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: Re:
Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error
How do I do that, Steve? -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 8:20 AM, Steve wrote: Do you have your Pc set to show hidden files? - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Ok I uninstalled JAWS again and after removing the folders that are labeled Freedom Scientific in both Program Folders and Program Files (x86) and then I inputted the path C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific in the run dialog box using windows r and got the folowing error saying it couldn't find C:\documents and that I should make sure I typed it correctly which I did and try again with an OK button. There aren't any settings for Freedom Scientific JAWS and anything related to Freedom Scientific products for Linda the main user and not even for me, Chela. Weird just keeps getting more strange and I feel like I'm dumb stumped. Never have I had this problem before when I had version 10 on my xp machine that died and lived its life to its potential and it was a 32-bit system. Hmmm! -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 6:35 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: No, the registry, doesn't store files. Registry just indicate keys for windows. For example, if we have installed jaws in C:\All Programs\Freedom\Jaws, then the registry just indicate the path for that program. Of course, registry indicate a lot of things, keys, paths, and sub keys for dll that are needed for windows. You can clean your registry of keys that are not linked to anything, or information that is making process not eficient. I use cCleaner for this kind of problems. Really the registry is more that I am telling you, but in a few words. The registry is a kind of guides, and indications for run the operated system, and all programs installed in your computer. P - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Perhaps there are files left over in the registry? How would I be able to check it if it has jaws stuff in the registry? -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a
Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs
Hi Chela, As in Windows XP, sometimes it takes a few seconds for the list of programs to populate. In Windows 7, the list of programs is a true list, and can be navigated by first letter. If you are in the correct place, and are not getting a list, then I suspect there are other problems with the computer. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs In windows 7 it should be a link, the question of whether the programs show up or not in the list to uninstall, which seems to be not the case with me, actually, the programs don't show up as a list like it did when I used to have WinXP, but they don't show up in add/remove programs nor the uninstall a program feature under programs and features. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:57 AM, t. conley wrote: when I go to my laptop’s control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ . For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error
Hi Steve, Documents and Settings in Windows 7 is a hidden system folder, best left alone by less experienced users. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Do you have your Pc set to show hidden files? - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Ok I uninstalled JAWS again and after removing the folders that are labeled Freedom Scientific in both Program Folders and Program Files (x86) and then I inputted the path C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific in the run dialog box using windows r and got the folowing error saying it couldn't find C:\documents and that I should make sure I typed it correctly which I did and try again with an OK button. There aren't any settings for Freedom Scientific JAWS and anything related to Freedom Scientific products for Linda the main user and not even for me, Chela. Weird just keeps getting more strange and I feel like I'm dumb stumped. Never have I had this problem before when I had version 10 on my xp machine that died and lived its life to its potential and it was a 32-bit system. Hmmm! -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 6:35 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: No, the registry, doesn't store files. Registry just indicate keys for windows. For example, if we have installed jaws in C:\All Programs\Freedom\Jaws, then the registry just indicate the path for that program. Of course, registry indicate a lot of things, keys, paths, and sub keys for dll that are needed for windows. You can clean your registry of keys that are not linked to anything, or information that is making process not eficient. I use cCleaner for this kind of problems. Really the registry is more that I am telling you, but in a few words. The registry is a kind of guides, and indications for run the operated system, and all programs installed in your computer. P - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Perhaps there are files left over in the registry? How would I be able to check it if it has jaws stuff in the registry? -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 3:50 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: My suggestion is this; 1. uninstall jaws 14. 2. delete the freedom scientific folder that is in all programs. 3. If in windows
Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS
Hi Arianna, If it is running the Windows operating system, then it should be useable with Jaws, especially version 15. Just remember as with all computers, results will vary. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Arianna acale...@centurylink.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS I was looking at my granddaughter's Samsung Galaxy tablet yesterday which had a bluetooth keyboard in it's case and it got me wondering if any of the tablets sold today would work with JAWS 14. Hers is an Android system and I don't know if that comes with screen reading software or not. does anyone have experience with any of the tablets available and if so, what can you tell me or advise? Thanks for any help. Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error
That's because Windows 7 changed the way directories are layed out. I think you need to look in c:\users\ and then go from there. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP installed Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not even the all users documents and settings and I now see why several don't choose HP but go with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP doesn't come to you to service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP partitioned Windows 7 at all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me a Dell laptop so I can put JAWS on there and not have this problem because it will be a fresh install of Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows 7 disk to do the fresh install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, unless this new talking installation of Windows installation I just heard about from Top Tech Tidbits would help, but in that case I'd still have to have the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installer disks and that might as well be expensive...so, JAWS has come to a stalemate with me, and I don't think the FS team will be able to help me, but I guess it will be worth the call on Monday...and if nothing changes then, I'm just going to have to use NVDA until I get my computer Rehab will purchase for me. Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin' right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 9:05 PM, Chela Robles wrote: The problem is that I'm not seeing rC:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific after, one, uninstalling it, two, removing both Freedom Scientific folders in Program Files and Program files (x86) locations, then I try to put in that above path which windows doesn't find so I can't delete the JAWS folder under it for JAWS 14. Wow this must be a world record of my having the longest JAWS issue ever LOL, but seriously, can't wait for 15 to come out, would be cool if when one does a repair switch from the directions from the FS team, that it would autodetect the files missing and just add automatically so this issue won't ever happen again, but I'm only dreaming big I guess...sigh, this is wearing me out. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 7:42 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: ok, you delete every thing related with jaws? now, instal jaws again, downloaded from the hj.com web site. it should work. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com wrote: Ok I uninstalled JAWS again and after
Re: [JAWS-Users] how to learn how to use WLM 2012.
Hi Jim, Give this a look: http://www.jaws-users.com/text/email/WLM/index.html HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users. com jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to learn how to use WLM 2012. Hi all, ok I am behind the times, but I don’t know how to use WLM 2012. One thing is, I don’t understand how to use the ribbon, and I don’t know how to set up my BCC field and set up my rules in this thing. So, what to do? I am using jaws 15, latest beta, and WLM 2012 on a windows 7 home premium computer. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
if you have more than jaws installed, just delete the folder called jaws that is inside freedom. But, is very important that you 1. uninstalled jaws. 2. Delete the freedom folder in program files. 3. delete the jaws or freedom folder in the folder that you are saying. After this steps, do not restart your computer. Just install jaws 14 again. Please do not restart your computer until you reinstall jaws. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Hello All, I think I'm finally getting somewhere, but you can kindly input whether or not I'm on the right track of thinking seeing as is I'm still waking up and have already gotten ready for church, so here is what I was able to do and here is what I'm thinking. I went into my user appdata folder and went to where it says roaming then I found Freedom Scientific. Should I delete this folder since I'm going to do a fresh install of JAWS since I already uninstalled JAWS and the Freedom Scientific folders in both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) folders now it is seen in the app data roaming folder under my username so was just wondering if I should delete it? -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 5:08 AM, Moderator wrote: Hi Chela, Please take note, I changed the subject line to reflect the topic being discussed, since the introduction has already been made. In Windows 7, the Documents and Settings folder is hidden, that's why you don't see it. The folders and files you are looking for should be located in the following locations: C:\Users\your name\AppData\ C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (X86) HTH, Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP installed Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not even the all users documents and settings and I now see why several don't choose HP but go with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP doesn't come to you to service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP partitioned Windows 7 at all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me a Dell laptop so I can put JAWS on there and not have this problem because it will be a fresh install of Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows 7 disk to do the fresh install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, unless this new talking installation of Windows installation I just heard about from Top Tech Tidbits would help, but in that case I'd still have to have the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installer disks and that might as well be expensive...so, JAWS has come to a stalemate with me, and I don't think the FS team will be able to help me, but I guess it will be worth the call on Monday...and if nothing changes then, I'm just going to have to use NVDA until I get my computer Rehab will purchase for me. Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin' right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant
Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS
Okay, rick, I'll have to look into this further. I don't want to buy something and then find out I can't used it. Thanks. Arianna - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS Hi Arianna, If it is running the Windows operating system, then it should be useable with Jaws, especially version 15. Just remember as with all computers, results will vary. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Arianna acale...@centurylink.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:46 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS I was looking at my granddaughter's Samsung Galaxy tablet yesterday which had a bluetooth keyboard in it's case and it got me wondering if any of the tablets sold today would work with JAWS 14. Hers is an Android system and I don't know if that comes with screen reading software or not. does anyone have experience with any of the tablets available and if so, what can you tell me or advise? Thanks for any help. Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs
Chela, Do a restart and then check your add remove And like Rick said, give it time to load up. Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:30 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs Hi Chela, As in Windows XP, sometimes it takes a few seconds for the list of programs to populate. In Windows 7, the list of programs is a true list, and can be navigated by first letter. If you are in the correct place, and are not getting a list, then I suspect there are other problems with the computer. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs In windows 7 it should be a link, the question of whether the programs show up or not in the list to uninstall, which seems to be not the case with me, actually, the programs don't show up as a list like it did when I used to have WinXP, but they don't show up in add/remove programs nor the uninstall a program feature under programs and features. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally-and in Chela's case--out of sight.it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics-and no one will ever change my mind on this-take a distant second place. -Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:57 AM, t. conley wrote: when I go to my laptop's control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ . For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS
Hi, Since this is a work envirement issue my idea maybe won't float with you guys. But, I am familiar on how a network system works. For example, worker 1 writes in their comments and the file is transfer through the share folder, worker 2 writes in their comments and etc etc. Ok, now whatever was commented by each worker cannot be alter.Then, the team leader can view everyones comments. I hope your computers are tie to a network system? Or everything I wrote you can delete... HTH,Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Annette Carr Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS Hello All, I am looking for recommendations for how a JAWS 12 or 14 user can provide feedback and recommended edits to a MS-Word 2010 document. Everyone on the team provides their input to the document through track changes or by making pen marks on the hardcopy. The business need of the task flow will determine the order in which each team member receives the document for their input. The second person gets to see the first person's feedback, and the third person gets to see the feedback from both the first and second person. This is to eliminate duplication, making it easier for the final person to make decisions about what will be changed. It is clear to everyone that the hardcopy method needs to be eliminated and everyone needs to provide their feedback electronically, or a human reader needs to be provided as an accommodation. If electronic is the path taken, here are my questions. 1.Is there a viable way for a JAWS user to gain valuable information from track changes. I have not figured out how, so any feedback, suggestions, and/or recommended resources to learn how to do this will be appreciated. 2. Is there any improvements in the use of MS-Words Comment feature with JAWS 14? For me it appears that the access to the Comments feature in MS-Word 2010 by JAWS 12 has been broken. I used to use it in Office 2003. I would highlight the character, word, phrase, etc. and insert a comment containing my suggested changes, question, recommendations, etc. Is it possible to use the comments feature in MS-Word 2010 and some version of JAWS? 3. If anyone has a suggestion for a different way of accomplishing this task, your feedback will be appreciated. Thanks, Annette For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW
It appears that if you launch IE from the taskbar in Windows7 as I do, that the program is already maximized. Nevertheless, I often find myself manually maximizing because the last few JAWS versions have had the same issue John reported- JFW not reading correctly which link has focus, and my issue with Alt-left-arrow not reliably working. Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hans Pauli Sundstein Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Hi. Do you have maximized the browser window, not even by the specific situation, but at startup of Internet Explorer? Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Don and Cher Bosch Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Ok, I'll install 15 and try it out. I'm relieved to have someone else describe the issues I've been having- including the second one you mentioned about JAWS14 not correctly focusing on links. Happens to me all the time :( Thanks much. Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Cher, I have found that using the jaws version 15 beta has solved this problem for me. In addition, the V15 beta is also working much better when I execute a link on a web page. The prior version of jaws many times would execute a different link than the one I was on and trying to execute. I think others had noted similar issues. I am running windows 7, IE 10 John in sunny Florida -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don and Cher Bosch Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW That's the problem- it's not consistently working, nor is using Back on the menus. When it refuses to back-link, it keeps refusing till I close it. Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Rivas Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Hi Cher, Maybe I missed something in this conversation? If, any help try the Alt + left arrow. HTH, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don and Cher Bosch Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Perhaps the Gmail site is trying to 'force' you to go to Google Chrome. Does the message refer to 'current browser' or does it specifically say IE? Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW What's the issue with IE as a whole? I upgraded, because Gmail said IE 8 would not be supported soon, and I get the same message with IE 10 with Gmail and its website. Anyone know what the deal is? Kliphton (iMessage) kliph...@icloud.com - Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don and Cher Bosch Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Can't go back to the previous page; and if I use Control-W to close that one tab, IE10 closes completely. Is this an IE10 issue that others have experienced, or is something amiss with JFW. I'm debating rolling back to IE9- no back-link problems that I can remember there. Thoughts / advice will be very much appreciated. Cher For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW
I don't think so... IE10 seems to warn me of any pop-up windows. In fact, I've been unable to get Alt-n to bring up the responses and end up going to the Tools menu and allowing the pop-up there. There are times when 2 back-link commands will go back one page- but am unable to detect a pattern so far. Cher a bit of trouble get -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 4:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Another issue can be if there were a few pop-ups along the way when the page loaded. If so, you might have to hit the back command a couple times for it to go back to the previous page. - Original Message - From: Hans Pauli Sundstein h...@hapasu.dk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Hi. Do you have maximized the browser window, not even by the specific situation, but at startup of Internet Explorer? Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Don and Cher Bosch Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Ok, I'll install 15 and try it out. I'm relieved to have someone else describe the issues I've been having- including the second one you mentioned about JAWS14 not correctly focusing on links. Happens to me all the time :( Thanks much. Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Cher, I have found that using the jaws version 15 beta has solved this problem for me. In addition, the V15 beta is also working much better when I execute a link on a web page. The prior version of jaws many times would execute a different link than the one I was on and trying to execute. I think others had noted similar issues. I am running windows 7, IE 10 John in sunny Florida -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don and Cher Bosch Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW That's the problem- it's not consistently working, nor is using Back on the menus. When it refuses to back-link, it keeps refusing till I close it. Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Rivas Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Hi Cher, Maybe I missed something in this conversation? If, any help try the Alt + left arrow. HTH, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don and Cher Bosch Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Perhaps the Gmail site is trying to 'force' you to go to Google Chrome. Does the message refer to 'current browser' or does it specifically say IE? Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW What's the issue with IE as a whole? I upgraded, because Gmail said IE 8 would not be supported soon, and I get the same message with IE 10 with Gmail and its website. Anyone know what the deal is? Kliphton (iMessage) kliph...@icloud.com - Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don and Cher Bosch Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW Can't go back to the previous page; and if I use Control-W to close that one tab, IE10 closes completely. Is this an IE10 issue that others have experienced, or is something amiss with JFW. I'm debating rolling back to IE9- no back-link problems that I can remember there. Thoughts / advice will be very much appreciated. Cher For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to
[JAWS-Users] What is the correct start JAWS setting if there is no log on screen?
I see that my installation of JFW14 has both start jaws at log-on and start jaws after log-on unchecked- nevertheless, jaws does start talking. Does anyone know what this setting should be for folks without a log-on screen? Thanks. Cher For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error
Like my partner said earlier please prune the subject line, it's longer than most messages please. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Narrator works and I don't feel like taking my chance of not having any sound at all by uninstalling the built-in sound card which is Realtech -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 1:01 AM, Bob wrote: If the talking installer isn’t talking then this points to some more fundamental issue with the laptop. Have you checked to see if Narrator talks? I have seen issues before where certain sound drivers disturb the speech in both narrator and eloquence. Go to device manager and uninstall your sound card, reboot your machine and then try uninstalling and installing jaws again. Bob -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: 13 October 2013 05:40 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP installed Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not even the all users documents and settings and I now see why several don't choose HP but go with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP doesn't come to you to service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP partitioned Windows 7 at all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me a Dell laptop so I can put JAWS on there and not have this problem because it will be a fresh install of Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows 7 disk to do the fresh install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, unless this new talking installation of Windows installation I just heard about from Top Tech Tidbits would help, but in that case I'd still have to have the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installer disks and that might as well be expensive...so, JAWS has come to a stalemate with me, and I don't think the FS team will be able to help me, but I guess it will be worth the call on Monday...and if nothing changes then, I'm just going to have to use NVDA until I get my computer Rehab will purchase for me. Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin' right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/12/2013 9:05 PM, Chela Robles wrote: The problem is that I'm not seeing
Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS
If memory serves only windows tablets will work with JAWS. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS I was looking at my granddaughter's Samsung Galaxy tablet yesterday which had a bluetooth keyboard in it's case and it got me wondering if any of the tablets sold today would work with JAWS 14. Hers is an Android system and I don't know if that comes with screen reading software or not. does anyone have experience with any of the tablets available and if so, what can you tell me or advise? Thanks for any help. Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS
Yes, that does make sense. I'm looking into this, if only for curiosity's sake. Arianna - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS If memory serves only windows tablets will work with JAWS. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS I was looking at my granddaughter's Samsung Galaxy tablet yesterday which had a bluetooth keyboard in it's case and it got me wondering if any of the tablets sold today would work with JAWS 14. Hers is an Android system and I don't know if that comes with screen reading software or not. does anyone have experience with any of the tablets available and if so, what can you tell me or advise? Thanks for any help. Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS
Davidd, are these Windows tablets a brand or what? Where on the web can one find a complete explanation of tablets? Marilyn - Original Message - From: Arianna acale...@centurylink.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS : Yes, that does make sense. I'm looking into this, if only for curiosity's : sake. : : Arianna : - Original Message - : From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:14 PM : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS : : : If memory serves only windows tablets will work with JAWS. : : David Ferrin : A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from : a simpler system that worked perfectly. : : -Original Message- : From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On : Behalf Of Arianna : Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:46 AM : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS : : I was looking at my granddaughter's Samsung Galaxy tablet yesterday which : had a bluetooth keyboard in it's case and it got me wondering if any of the : tablets sold today would work with JAWS 14. Hers is an Android system and I : don't know if that comes with screen reading software or not. : : does anyone have experience with any of the tablets available and if so, : what can you tell me or advise? : : Thanks for any help. : : Arianna : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS
Honestly Eric would be the most qualified to answer your question. Tablets using the windows operating system is as far as my information goes, sorry. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS David, are these Windows tablets a brand or what? Where on the web can one find a complete explanation of tablets? Marilyn - Original Message - From: Arianna acale...@centurylink.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS : Yes, that does make sense. I'm looking into this, if only for curiosity's : sake. : : Arianna : - Original Message - : From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:14 PM : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS : : : If memory serves only windows tablets will work with JAWS. : : David Ferrin : A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from : a simpler system that worked perfectly. : : -Original Message- : From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On : Behalf Of Arianna : Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:46 AM : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS : : I was looking at my granddaughter's Samsung Galaxy tablet yesterday which : had a bluetooth keyboard in it's case and it got me wondering if any of the : tablets sold today would work with JAWS 14. Hers is an Android system and I : don't know if that comes with screen reading software or not. : : does anyone have experience with any of the tablets available and if so, : what can you tell me or advise? : : Thanks for any help. : : Arianna : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS
Hi George, Yes, we are using a network and I do not have a question about how to get the document from person to person. Rather, I want to know how, if possible to use JAWS with the Track Changes or Comments feature in MS-Word 2010. When Track Changes are on, JAWS reads everything that it comes across and it ends up making little to know sense. When using the Comments feature you can barely create a comment, and forget about reviewing what you just typed into a comment, or reading a previously created comment. I am hoping that my negative experiences just described above are the result of my limited knowledge and that there is a way to utilize either one or both of these MS-Word features when using JAWS. Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Rivas Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS Hi, Since this is a work environment issue my idea maybe won't float with you guys. But, I am familiar on how a network system works. For example, worker 1 writes in their comments and the file is transfer through the share folder, worker 2 writes in their comments and etc. etc. Ok, now whatever was commented by each worker cannot be alter.Then, the team leader can view everyones comments. I hope your computers are tie to a network system? Or everything I wrote you can delete... HTH,Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Annette Carr Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS Hello All, I am looking for recommendations for how a JAWS 12 or 14 user can provide feedback and recommended edits to a MS-Word 2010 document. Everyone on the team provides their input to the document through track changes or by making pen marks on the hardcopy. The business need of the task flow will determine the order in which each team member receives the document for their input. The second person gets to see the first person's feedback, and the third person gets to see the feedback from both the first and second person. This is to eliminate duplication, making it easier for the final person to make decisions about what will be changed. It is clear to everyone that the hardcopy method needs to be eliminated and everyone needs to provide their feedback electronically, or a human reader needs to be provided as an accommodation. If electronic is the path taken, here are my questions. 1.Is there a viable way for a JAWS user to gain valuable information from track changes. I have not figured out how, so any feedback, suggestions, and/or recommended resources to learn how to do this will be appreciated. 2. Is there any improvements in the use of MS-Words Comment feature with JAWS 14? For me it appears that the access to the Comments feature in MS-Word 2010 by JAWS 12 has been broken. I used to use it in Office 2003. I would highlight the character, word, phrase, etc. and insert a comment containing my suggested changes, question, recommendations, etc. Is it possible to use the comments feature in MS-Word 2010 and some version of JAWS? 3. If anyone has a suggestion for a different way of accomplishing this task, your feedback will be appreciated. Thanks, Annette For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 8:40 AM, Pablo Morales wrote: if you have more than jaws installed, just delete the folder called jaws that is inside freedom. But, is very important that you 1. uninstalled jaws. 2. Delete the freedom folder in program files. 3. delete the jaws or freedom folder in the folder that you are saying. After this steps, do not restart your computer. Just install jaws 14 again. Please do not restart your computer until you reinstall jaws. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Hello All, I think I'm finally getting somewhere, but you can kindly input whether or not I'm on the right track of thinking seeing as is I'm still waking up and have already gotten ready for church, so here is what I was able to do and here is what I'm thinking. I went into my user appdata folder and went to where it says roaming then I found Freedom Scientific. Should I delete this folder since I'm going to do a fresh install of JAWS since I already uninstalled JAWS and the Freedom Scientific folders in both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) folders now it is seen in the app data roaming folder under my username so was just wondering if I should delete it? -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 5:08 AM, Moderator wrote: Hi Chela, Please take note, I changed the subject line to reflect the topic being discussed, since the introduction has already been made. In Windows 7, the Documents and Settings folder is hidden, that's why you don't see it. The folders and files you are looking for should be located in the following locations: C:\Users\your name\AppData\ C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (X86) HTH, Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 8:40 AM, Pablo Morales wrote: if you have more than jaws installed, just delete the folder called jaws that is inside freedom. But, is very important that you 1. uninstalled jaws. 2. Delete the freedom folder in program files. 3. delete the jaws or freedom folder in the folder that you are saying. After this steps, do not restart your computer. Just install jaws 14 again. Please do not restart your computer until you reinstall jaws. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Hello All, I think I'm finally getting somewhere, but you can kindly input whether or not I'm on the right track of thinking seeing as is I'm still waking up and have already gotten ready for church, so here is what I was able to do and here is what I'm thinking. I went into my user appdata folder and went to where it says roaming then I found Freedom
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
I must point out that using Eloquence with NVDA if memory serves is illegal. Also 19 lines for a signature, are you serious? Please read the guidelines a little more carefully. Note the polite manner you're being asked. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 8:40 AM, Pablo Morales wrote: if you have more than jaws installed, just delete the folder called jaws that is inside freedom. But, is very important that you 1. uninstalled jaws. 2. Delete the freedom folder in program files. 3. delete the jaws or freedom folder in the folder that you are saying. After this steps, do not restart your computer. Just install jaws
[JAWS-Users] computer braille with the focus braille display
Hey all! I'm having a bit of a concern. I'm wondering if there's a way to write a capital sign using computer braille? If someone can get back to me, that'd be great. thanks, Doug For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] computer braille with the focus braille display
You can't do a capital sign in computer braille. You add dot 7 to the letter to capitalize it. Tim Bennett Indianapolis, IN For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
Hi, It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort to help resolve this problem. Whether you or an agency meeting your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to access technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it in the interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is broken. Just my two cents no one asked for. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 8:40 AM, Pablo Morales wrote: if you have more than jaws installed, just delete the folder called jaws that is inside freedom. But, is very important that you 1. uninstalled jaws. 2. Delete the freedom folder in program files. 3. delete the jaws or freedom folder in the folder that you are saying. After this steps, do not
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
The problem is that they won't be able to do a JAWS Tandem because JAWS closes once it displays the error. BTW is my Signature short enough for you all now? -- Chela Robles Sent from HPG72 Windows 7 Laptop -- On 10/13/2013 5:17 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort to help resolve this problem. Whether you or an agency meeting your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to access technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it in the interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is broken. Just my two cents no one asked for. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 8:40 AM, Pablo Morales wrote: if you have more than jaws installed, just
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
Hi, Yes I understand I'm sorry I hadn't read every message in the thread and didn't realize it wasn't fully installed before the failure occurred. Good luck in your quest for a resolution. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws The problem is that they won't be able to do a JAWS Tandem because JAWS closes once it displays the error. BTW is my Signature short enough for you all now? -- Chela Robles Sent from HPG72 Windows 7 Laptop -- On 10/13/2013 5:17 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort to help resolve this problem. Whether you or an agency meeting your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to access technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it in the interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is broken. Just my two cents no one asked for. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
Thanks I'm going to keep trying until I'm blue in the face. -- Chela Robles -- On 10/13/2013 5:50 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, Yes I understand I'm sorry I hadn't read every message in the thread and didn't realize it wasn't fully installed before the failure occurred. Good luck in your quest for a resolution. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws The problem is that they won't be able to do a JAWS Tandem because JAWS closes once it displays the error. BTW is my Signature short enough for you all now? -- Chela Robles Sent from HPG72 Windows 7 Laptop -- On 10/13/2013 5:17 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort to help resolve this problem. Whether you or an agency meeting your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to access technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it in the interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is broken. Just my two cents no one asked for. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
Yes it's fine now, BTW a little sarcasm doesn't bother me. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws The problem is that they won't be able to do a JAWS Tandem because JAWS closes once it displays the error. BTW is my Signature short enough for you all now? -- Chela Robles Sent from HPG72 Windows 7 Laptop -- On 10/13/2013 5:17 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort to help resolve this problem. Whether you or an agency meeting your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to access technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it in the interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is broken. Just my two cents no one asked for. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National
Re: [JAWS-Users] computer braille with the focus braille display
Thanks tim. That worked. Thanks, Doug -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bennett Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer braille with the focus braille display You can't do a capital sign in computer braille. You add dot 7 to the letter to capitalize it. Tim Bennett Indianapolis, IN For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS
Hello Annette, Here are a few things you might be able to use. I had some notes that I created some time ago that I am pasting below. Take care. TRACKING REVISIONS USING JAWS AND WORD 2010 Turn tracking on by using CTRL+shift+E. If using insert+v to bring up JAWS verbosity, press the letter T until the track changes choice is found. Use spacebar to cycle between the choices JAWS gives for what is spoken when revisions are found and then press enter key to accept a choice. Choices include type, type and author, type, author and date, as well as others. You can use Windows key with semicolon in Word 2010 to bring up a virtual window with options for viewing comments, footnotes, endnotes or revisions. The virtual window will have links to the comments, revisions, etc. Use enter key on any link to move to the targeted reference. If a change has been made in a document and the document has been saved you can use the Windows key with semicolon and press enter on the revision choice. If you follow the link to a revision you can read the revision. You can then use the application key and the accept and reject revision choices will be present. Press enter key on the appropriate choice. You can create a comment using the hotkey CTRL with Alt and M. If that hotkey has been used by you for a different purpose then the New Comment choice is under the review tab. You can list all comments in the document by using CTRL with Shift and apostrophe. This will list all reviewer's comments and you can arrow to the one you want to move to and press enter key. Alt with Shift and apostrophe will read a comment at the cursor position. You can list the comments and move to one and then delete either that one or all in the document by choosing the review tab and tabbing to the delete menu, which contains those choices. You can also use Windows key with semicolon and use the Footnote choice to move to a footnote. Focus will go into the footnote pane but you can use shift with function key 5 to move to your previous position in the document. If you do any coauthoring you can set the status bar to show such things as number of authors editing, track changes, and document updates available. When you move to a revision the contextual menu accessed by using the application key gives choices for accepting or rejecting the revision. If you use the Accept and Reject options frequently for revisions, you might want to consider setting those options to hotkeys. The following steps can be followed to set a hotkey for the accept and move to next action found on the lower part of the ribbon under the review tab. 1. Press Alt followed by R followed by A to move focus to the Accept and Move to Next option. 2. Press the Application key or Shift+f10. (Right click with the mouse). 3. Use up arrow key a couple times and press enter key on the Customize the Ribbon menu item. 4. Use tab key a couple of times to a list of commands and make sure that the selected command is Accept and Move to Next. 5. Use tab key one more time to move to the Customize button and use the spacebar. 6. In the category list make sure you select the Review option. Press R in the list of categories until that option is selected. 7. Use tab key to the Commands list box. 8. The first three options in the list have to do with accepting changes. Use up or down arrow key to select the one you want to use with a hotkey. 9. Use tab key one time to find out if there is a current key combination applied to the command. If not, use tab key again to the edit box for the new hotkey. 10. Type in the hotkey combination. You might consider using Alt+CTRL+Shift+A. Be sure to actually use the hotkey when entering what you want to use in the edit box. In other words, hold down all three modifier keys, press A and then release all keys. 11. Use tab key one more time and choose if you want to use this key combination in the normal template so it will be available in all new documents based on the normal template. Arrow down one time in the Save In combo box if you want your changes to only be for the current document. 12. Use tab key and find the Assign button. Use spacebar on that button. The new hotkey combination should appear in the list of currently assigned keys. I have found that it sometimes takes a few seconds before showing in the list. 13. Use tab key to the Close button and use spacebar. 14. Use tab key to the OK button and use spacebar. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Annette Carr Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS Hello All, I am looking for recommendations for how a JAWS 12 or 14 user can provide feedback and recommended edits to a MS-Word 2010 document. Everyone on the team provides their
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
I will not be writing you guys soon, gotta unsubscribe, thanks for trying to help me though. -- Chela Robles -- On 10/13/2013 5:57 PM, David Ferrin wrote: Yes it's fine now, BTW a little sarcasm doesn't bother me. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws The problem is that they won't be able to do a JAWS Tandem because JAWS closes once it displays the error. BTW is my Signature short enough for you all now? -- Chela Robles Sent from HPG72 Windows 7 Laptop -- On 10/13/2013 5:17 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort to help resolve this problem. Whether you or an agency meeting your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to access technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it in the interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is broken. Just my two cents no one asked for. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
I wasn't being sarcastic. -- Chela Robles -- On 10/13/2013 5:57 PM, David Ferrin wrote: Yes it's fine now, BTW a little sarcasm doesn't bother me. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws The problem is that they won't be able to do a JAWS Tandem because JAWS closes once it displays the error. BTW is my Signature short enough for you all now? -- Chela Robles Sent from HPG72 Windows 7 Laptop -- On 10/13/2013 5:17 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort to help resolve this problem. Whether you or an agency meeting your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to access technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it in the interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is broken. Just my two cents no one asked for. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
I admire your dilligence. When I get stuck on a computer problem, I try and try and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, so I totally get your statement. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Thanks I'm going to keep trying until I'm blue in the face. -- Chela Robles -- On 10/13/2013 5:50 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, Yes I understand I'm sorry I hadn't read every message in the thread and didn't realize it wasn't fully installed before the failure occurred. Good luck in your quest for a resolution. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws The problem is that they won't be able to do a JAWS Tandem because JAWS closes once it displays the error. BTW is my Signature short enough for you all now? -- Chela Robles Sent from HPG72 Windows 7 Laptop -- On 10/13/2013 5:17 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort to help resolve this problem. Whether you or an agency meeting your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the opportunity to access technical support so it seems reasonable to avail one's self of it in the interim instead of having to settle or work around that which is broken. Just my two cents no one asked for. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws
The version of Eloquence with JAWS is locked into JAWS, and it as such has NO EFFECT on any other program. . Can you uninstall your Eloquence (for NVDA) and then try the JAWS install? Then afterwards, if you like, once JAWS has been successfully ins talled, try reinstalling the Eloquence you use with NVDA. I have the K1000 Eloquence and it doesn't affect JAWS use with Eloquence. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS would also make it work with other TTS programs like K1000, but strangely it works with NVDA but I just realize the reason why it works with NVDA is because it is a plugin. Is there an alternative way for me to get the necessary files for JAWS Eloquence to work? I've tried all you guys said and still no go. Sadly. I think it hates me for waiting for the DOR to upgrade JAWS. LOL! The only other option other than talking to Tech Support, is to wait until I get my upgrade from Rehab then, and then of course try it out on the computer they will be giving me and then I'll know that it is the HP machine and not me, since they'll be getting me a Dell Laptop with this same OS. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 4:06 PM, Chela Robles wrote: Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS about eloq.jls and about it missing the necessary files it needs in order for Eloquence to read the screen. Still spinnin' right round in the circle of life and back to square one, the dilemma. This is weird that I'm the only one with this issue. Glad you all were successful in getting it to work. I'm just stumped and not sure how this problem will go away, followed your directions precisely and I'm not going to give up. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 8:40 AM, Pablo Morales wrote: if you have more than jaws installed, just delete the folder called jaws that is inside freedom. But, is very important that you 1. uninstalled jaws. 2. Delete the freedom folder in program files. 3. delete the jaws or freedom folder in the folder that you are saying. After this steps, do not restart your computer. Just install jaws 14 again. Please do not restart your
