[JAWS-Users] Copying content from web page to word processor

2010-08-24 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I had to reinstall JAWS this week, and lost some settings.
One involved copying from web pages.
There's asetting that will copy just text, and not all the graphics off
the web page, so that I get just the text in my word processor document.
Does someone know where I can find that?
I'm using JAWS 11
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible Bibles, and more

2010-08-10 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
A number of members of this list have been using Bibles from Optasia
Ministry, and I want to alert new members to this resource.
Thanks to the list owner for letting us post this information.
We have designed a Bible format that works very well with JAWS, and works
well on desktop and laptop computers as well as the Braille notetaker
devices.
We have 14 versions available, and are preparing to add a few more in the
near future.
Optasia Bibles are in HTML format so they run in Internet Explorer.
You do not have to be online to use them.  They run off files on your own
hard drive.
Each Bible opens with a table of contents page with links to all the
books of the Bible.
Each book has links to its chapters.
Each chapter displays in full, with links to each verse.
You can do exact word/phrase searches as well.
And we will send you these Bibles free if you are blind.
In addition, Optasia Ministry has a large library ofBible study tools,
such as commentaries, and a variety of other Christian reading as well.
All of it is free.
Check us out at
www.optasiaministry.org
email me at
tom@optasiaministry.org
Blessings,
Tom Vos, director

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Re: [JAWS-Users] office 2003 vs 2007

2010-08-01 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Lenny,
I think JAWS works fine with both versions.
I think the question is more a matter of which Word version you want to
use.
Some of us have upgraded for various reasons, and learned the new ribbon
menus in Office 2007, and find it works very well with JAWS.
But if 2003 is working well for you, there may be no need to upgrade.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:56:33 -0400
> From: "Lenny McHugh" 
> To: "jaws-users-list" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] office 2003 vs 2007
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I am having problems locating office 2007. I do have home student 
> 2003. Is there much of an advantage with jaws to go to 2007? 
> ---
> Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, 
> inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive 
> resource list for the blind.
> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com
> 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents

2010-07-11 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Gerald,
Japanese or Chinese script would still account for gibberish output.
You might need to ask a sighted person if that is what is actually on the
paper.
Sometimes instructions are very small print, or not well printed.
If it is very small, perhaps it could be enlarged on a copy machine,
though I have found that my scanner and Open Book can scann rather small
text.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:20:32 -0400
> From: "Gerald Levy" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
> Message-ID: <87ac53ed79c945498227d15bd300e...@glevy>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=response
> 
> 
> No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters 
> and 
> symbols that don't make any sense.
> 
> Gerald
> 
> 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents

2010-07-11 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Open Book has this capability.
When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print.
But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import
Printer.
When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the
pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave
you with readable text.
Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start
scanning.
Blessings,
Tom
 
> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500
> From: "Lisa Belville" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=response
> 
> I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think.  I 
> don't 
> know if it had that capability.
> 
> So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS?
> 
> I HAD A THOUGHT!  No. Wait. False alarm.
> 
> Lisa Belville

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents4

2010-07-11 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Open Book has this capability.
When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print.
But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import
Printer.
When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the
pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave
you with readable text.
Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start
scanning.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500
> From: "Lisa Belville" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=response
> 
> I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think.  I 
> don't 
> know if it had that capability.
> 
> So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS?
> 
> I HAD A THOUGHT!  No. Wait. False alarm.
> 
> Lisa Belville

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Converting .DOC or .TXT files to PDF

2010-06-21 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm using Office 2007, and in the save menu, under file types, I can
choose to save as pdf.
When I do, Adobe opens with my file open for reading.
Blessings,
Tom Vos


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Re: [JAWS-Users] non-Internet bible software

2010-06-02 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
That's what Optasia Ministry offers, Wayne.

> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 22:12:55 -0600
> From: "Wayne Scott" 
> To: 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] non-Internet bible software
> Message-ID: <9a648943d6124b7db91bfb6590dc1...@diamondstar>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> What bible programs will work with Jaws?  I need the ones that you 
> don't need to go online for.  Wayne Scott
> "A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries 
> the bones."
> 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Bible software with JAWS 11 (wayne smith)

2010-06-01 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Optasia Ministry has three Catholic Bibles:
New Jerusalem Bible
New  American Bible
Christian Community Bible

These are not in the Optasia format, but are very accessible
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 21:35:50 -0500
> From: "wayne smith" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bible software with JAWS 11
> Message-ID: <003701cb0133$26344230$729cc6...@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Another Wayne-
> 
> Do you know if any of these bible versions are for Catholic 
> versions?
> 
> Wayne II
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
> Ferrin
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 07:45 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bible software with JAWS 11
> 
> It is good stuff as he sent me a copy a couple of years ago already 
> I 
> believe on a DVD.
> David Ferrin
> ow...@jaws-users.com
> - Original Message - 
> From: "First CRC Tom Vos" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bible software with JAWS 11
> 
> 
> > Wayne,
> > It depends partly on what you want to do with this software.
> > Optasia Ministry has 14 popular versions of the Bible in a form 
> that
> > works very well with JAWS on your desktop computer, as well as
> > notetakers.
> > These Bibles are HTML files, that you store on your hard drive, 
> and they
> > run in Internet Explorer.  After setting up the Bible as one of 
> your
> > favorites, you will have easy access to links to books, chapters 
> and
> > verses of the Bible.
> > You will be able to search for specific words and phrases as 
> well.
> > So if you want a Bible to read, one in which it is easy to find a
> > passage, these will work well for you.
> > We have these same 14 versions in a form that is designed for the 
> Victor
> > Stream Reader.
> > These same versions are also available in rtf format, for basic 
> access
> > with any screen reader.
> > The Optasia  Bibles do not have links to other study resources.
> > However, if you receive the entire Optasia Library, you will be 
> able to
> > make use of a variety of good commentaries, as well as have access 
> to
> > reading material on a variety of topics related to the Bible.  We 
> have
> > about 800 books in the library now, and songs and worship 
> resources as
> > well.
> > If you want to see the complete listing of the Optasia Library, 
> you can
> > visit our website:
> > www.optasiaministry.org
> > We send out all our materials free, since the ministry depends on
> > donations for its support.
> > You may email me directly if you have questions, or want a copy of 
> a
> > Bible or the library.
> > tom@optasiaministry.org
> > Blessings,
> > Tom
> >

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Bible software with JAWS 11

2010-05-31 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Wayne,
It depends partly on what you want to do with this software.
Optasia Ministry has 14 popular versions of the Bible in a form that
works very well with JAWS on your desktop computer, as well as
notetakers.
These Bibles are HTML files, that you store on your hard drive, and they
run in Internet Explorer.  After setting up the Bible as one of your
favorites, you will have easy access to links to books, chapters and
verses of the Bible.
You will be able to search for specific words and phrases as well.
So if you want a Bible to read, one in which it is easy to find a
passage, these will work well for you.
We have these same 14 versions in a form that is designed for the Victor
Stream Reader.
These same versions are also available in rtf format, for basic access
with any screen reader.
The Optasia  Bibles do not have links to other study resources.
However, if you receive the entire Optasia Library, you will be able to
make use of a variety of good commentaries, as well as have access to
reading material on a variety of topics related to the Bible.  We have
about 800 books in the library now, and songs and worship resources as
well.
If you want to see the complete listing of the Optasia Library, you can
visit our website:
www.optasiaministry.org
We send out all our materials free, since the ministry depends on
donations for its support.
You may email me directly if you have questions, or want a copy of a
Bible or the library.
tom@optasiaministry.org
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 21:48:40 -0600
> From: "Wayne Scott" 
> To: 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] bible software with Jaws 11
> Message-ID: <4ebd0e332d1d4361b2bd84e8de898...@diamondstar>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> What bible software works well with Jaws 11"  Wayne Scott
> "A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries 
> the bones."
> 
> 


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[JAWS-Users] Follow up to Stuttering JAWS

2010-04-15 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
In an earlier post I noted a problem in which JAWS seemed to get stuck on
a single syllable, which it kept repeating like a motor boat, hanging up
the computer.
I got some good help from Freedom Scientific.
The solution they suggested was to go to the start up page in
configuration manager, and disable all the start up programs.  Then, they
said, I could enable them one by one till I found the one that would
cause the problem.
With everything disabled, my computer runs fine.  I'm not missing
anything important that I can notice, so I don't plan to enable any more
than I have to.
A couple things enabled themselves in the list, and I had to check my
virus and spam protection.
But I have not had a problem in almost two weeks now.
So,three cheers for Freedom Scientific tech support!
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE Delete headers in Word 2007

2010-04-14 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Just one small idea to check.
There are some header settings on the page layout window, such as making
Word put a differetn header on page 1 and 2.
I don't know if this is the problem, but you might want to look at it.
Alt P, then M
Control tab to the layout page.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:19:35 -0500
> From: "Chanelle Hill" 
> To: 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] delete headers in Word 2007
> Message-ID: <6a3bc45b263f470a9f97d9a7b9d46...@dbtoa000>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Dear Jaws List,
> I cannot get Microsoft Word to remove a header from the second 
> page of my document. I divide the first page from the second with a 
> section break. Then I go to the insert tab on the ribbon (alt n) 
> press h for header, and scroll to remove header. The header on page 
> 3 as well as headers in the rest of the document are removed. It 
> doesn't matter where I place the cursor. Am I missing a Jaws command 
> or a step? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Chanelle
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[JAWS-Users] RE Stuttering JAWS

2010-04-06 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Lenny,
How do you set up a dedicated sound card for JAWS?
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:25:01 -0400
> From: "Lenny McHugh" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Stuttering JAWS
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> I am using the latest jaws, xp home and IE 8  I use to have that 
> stuttering 
> as an intermitting problem. When I started using a dedicated sound 
> card for 
> jaws the problem went away.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Becky B" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Stuttering JAWS
> 
> 
> I am using the latest version of JAWS and have experienced the same 
> problem
> with XP Home and IE 8.
> 
> Becky
> 
> Becky
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "First CRC Tom Vos" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:32 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Stuttering JAWS
> 
> 
> For a long time now, JAWS will stumble over a single syllable in a 
> line.
> Occasionally JAWS will get stuck on a single syllable, and the 
> computer
> locks up, and the only way out is to power off the computer.
> A few days ago it went into the stuttering mode, but came out of it
> again.  But then it kept doing it, so I had to reboot, and it took 
> two
> more reboots before it got better.
> Has anyone seen this, and is there a cause for this that I can 
> address?
> Blessings,
> Tom

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[JAWS-Users] Stuttering JAWS

2010-04-06 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
For a long time now, JAWS will stumble over a single syllable in a line.
Occasionally JAWS will get stuck on a single syllable, and the computer
locks up, and the only way out is to power off the computer.
A few days ago it went into the stuttering mode, but came out of it
again.  But then it kept doing it, so I had to reboot, and it took two
more reboots before it got better.
Has anyone seen this, and is there a cause for this that I can address?
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE Laptops and OS

2010-03-29 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Let me just assure you that Office 2007 is a good upgrade.
It has a learning curve because MS has switched to ribbon menus rather
than the pull down menus, but give yourself a little time to explore, and
you will find this system works well, and JAWS works well with it.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:10:46 -0600
> From: "Jean Menzies" 
> To: "Jaws Users List" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptops and OS
> Message-ID: <3257e2e447514c4d9ee961e219e00...@office>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hello all, 
> 
> I don't have time to read many messages, so apologize if this has 
> been covered or is of common knowledge. 
> 
> I am in the market for a laptop computer. I've never owned a laptop 
> and don't know what to look for or avoid as a blind user. I will 
> have to upgrade Jaws as I'm back on version 8. I'm thinking that most 
> laptops now are sold with Windows 2007 operating system. How does 
> Jaws work with that? Of course, it would be whatever current version 
> Jaws is at, version 11 I think. Also, I would then have to make the 
> leap to Office 2007 from Office 2003. I may have to use Office 2007 
> including PowerPoint, Excel, IE, and Word in school next fall. I'll 
> know that for sure later this week, but I would expect that they 
> will not be using my favourite 2003 stuff. 
> 
> Anyway, any pointers on upgrading would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Jean
> 
>   "Hear no 

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[JAWS-Users] RE Jaws friendly topical Bible

2010-03-17 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
All Optasia Library materials are free.
Since we must restrict who gets this material, by law, we cannot make it
available for download from our website.
optasiaministry.org
we only send it out on DVD to those who qualify, that is to those who are
blind or have a visual disability
I noted the NIV Study Bible resources in my previous post.
We also have fourteen versions available in the Optasia Bible format.
One of these is The Message.
The Optasia Bibles run from your hard drive in Internet Explorer, so you
have easy links to books, chapters and verses.
The Optasia Bibles are ideal for finding and reading passages, and work
well on the note takers too.
Last September we released the Optasia Bible Collection, which puts all
14 versions in a single package, allowing users to easily compare
readings in all the versions.
The library contains the Bibles, over 700 other books, and worship
resources that include over 1,000 hymn and song texts.
If you want the Optasia Library, or any part of it, send me an email at 
tom@optasiaministry.org.
State in the email whether you are blind or have a visual disability, and
give me your mailing address, and I'll send it out to you.
If you want just a single Optasia Bible I can make that available through
a large file transfer service (YouSendIt.com).
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE Jaws friendly topical Bible

2010-03-17 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Sorry I forgot to change the subject line on my previous post.

Bible Gateway is a good source
Optasia Ministry has an option you might want to consider, 
especially if you want something on your own computer, rather than 
having to go online.
We have The study helps and notes of the NIV Study Bible available.
This includes:
A subject index, which gives you references under topic headings, 
and names.
It is arranged in alphabetic files
We also have the NIV Study Bible Concordance, arranged in alphabetic 
files.
In addition we have all the study notes and book introductions 
available.
Note that we also have a rich source of resources, from Bibles  to 
commentaries to devotional Christian reading.
For example, we just added the popular book, The Shack
Check out our website at
optasiaministry.org
Blessings,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users-List Digest, Vol 77, Issue 6

2010-03-17 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Bible Gateway is a good source
Optasia Ministry has an option you might want to consider, especially if
you want something on your own computer, rather than having to go online.
We have The study helps and notes of the NIV Study Bible available.
This includes:
A subject index, which gives you references under topic headings, and
names.
It is arranged in alphabetic files
We also have the NIV Study Bible Concordance, arranged in alphabetic
files.
In addition we have all the study notes and book introductions available.
Note that we also have a rich source of resources, from Bibles  to
commentaries to devotional Christian reading.
For example, we just added the popular book, The Shack
Check out our website at
optasiaministry.org
Blessings,
Tom Vos, Director
 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:44:23 -0400
> From: "Victoria Vaughan" 
> To: 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws friendly topical Bible
> Message-ID: <952dafd8403642dbb80ba8c883487...@laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi, Do any of you, use a Jaws friendly topical Bible?  I would like 
> to be able to either type in my own search term or select a term 
> from a list.  
> 
> The question then is, how would I then either choose an entry or go 
> from the first entry to the next?
> 
> Many thanks for any suggestions!
> 
> Vicky
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:55:19 -0700
> From: "Kimsan" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws friendly topical Bible
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> 
> I use biblegateway.com
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of 
> Victoria
> aughan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:44 AM
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> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws friendly topical Bible
> 
> Hi, Do any of you, use a Jaws friendly topical Bible?  I would like 
> to be
> able to either type in my own search term or select a term from a 
> list.  
> 
> The question then is, how would I then either choose an entry or go 
> from the
> first entry to the next?
> 
> Many thanks for any suggestions!
> 
> Vicky
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[JAWS-Users] RE Word 207 help please

2010-02-26 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Victoria,
It's working for me right now, but try.
Just Control F for the JAWS find feature.
Or Used the MS Word find feature which is
Alt E, F
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:18:23 -0500
> From: "Victoria Vaughan" 
> To: 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 207 Help Please?
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi, I am puzzled, when I use Insert, Control F, for Jaws word Find, 
> it says, "Word Not Found."  However when I read the document, the 
> word is there, just as I searched for it.  
> 
> Do any of you have any idea what might be going wrong and how it 
> might be fixed?
> 
> Many thanks! Vicky
> 
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[JAWS-Users] What's happening in Google

2010-02-20 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Sometimes lately when I do a Google search, there are search results
listed, but JAWS skips over them.
It will review my search line, then jump to the links for 1, 2, 3 and so
on at the end of the list of search results.
Pressing H for headings, or U for unvisited links won't get me to the
search results either.
I'm using JAWS 11.
Does anybody know what might cause this?
Blessings,
Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tax software

2010-02-07 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
There is no such thing as importing information if you use IRS forms.
You keep your own records, and start out from scratch each year.
You have to know how to fill out the tax forms on your own, to use this
method, or be willing to read enough to learn.
Blessings,
Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] tax software

2010-02-07 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I've always done my own taxes, and am tired of Turdo Tax charging me for
e filing, so this year I am using the IRS forms.  So far I'm reasonably
impressed.
You download pdf forms in which you can enter the data.  
For help, you can go to the IRS website.
This method probably is best used by those who know how to use the IRS
forms, or be willing to spend plenty of time reading.
The up side, is, that after you do it this way for a year or two, it will
not be very difficult.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS conflict with Office 2007

2010-01-07 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I am using JAWS 11 on a Dell laptop, running Vista
The problem began when we did some things to try to speed up a sluggish
computer.
When JAWS is running, I cannot start MS Word or Excell.
I can start JAWS after MS Word is running, and it works, but I cannot use
Excell at all.
Other Office programs run fine: IE, Outlook
The error message says Windows is looking online for a solution, but then
I get no answer, just the option to close the program
I did a repair on JAWS with no success.
I tried a system restore, but that did not help.
MS office was updated during the earlier process, so it is current.
Below is a list of things we did during the process of trying to improve
computer performance.  Maybe that will give you an idea of something we
can do.
Perhaps the final solution will be to reinstall MS Office, but I am
hoping someone might have a better idea before I go to that option. 

Here is the list of things I did as I tried to increase computer
performance:
1) Disabled almost all plug ins in Internet Explorer except plug ins by
Microsoft or Adobe. 
2) Ran Microsoft update.  There were no critical or hardware updates.
Also updated MS Office. 
3) Defragmented the hard drive.   
4) Updated the anti-virus database. 
5) Uninstalled various programs including, but not limited to: Google
Desktop, everything by Google except Google Earth. 
6) Viewed startup items, in particular items initiated by Windows
registry keys.  Unchecked a few items
I'm pretty sure I unchecked Windows Media Player if it was on the
list.  There was an HP web printing program I disabled or uninstalled. 
7)  In one of the configuration windows concerning bootup, it was
configured to do a special boot process.  I changed it to a "Normal"
boot process, but I later noticed it had gone back to a previous
value.  I'm not sure what that was all about. 
8)  I changed performance settings from "automatic" to "optimized for
performance."  This removed many special effects about window shading,
button styles, etc.  The environment appeared more similar to older
versions of Windows. 
9)  Went into the C drive properties, unchecked the box that said
something like "index for faster searching", and I instructed it to
apply the settings to all subfolders and files.  I went into the
Indexing control panel menu and limited indexing to the fewest
possible files.  I also explicitly removed indexing for files with
extensions .pst, .psm, and .xml.  After this change, Outlook provided
a warning saying that the indexing was not being run against outlook.
I acknowledged the warning and instructed Outlook not to produce the
warning again. 
10) I disabled the Indexing service. 
11) Installed the newest Adobe Reader.  I didn't explicitly
uninstall the previous one, so I hope the installer was smart enough
not to mess that up. 
When I started, the laptop had instability issues with Internet
Explorer, ran slower than I would have expected, and occasionally the
explorer.exe process would lock up when you try to click on the Start
menu.  It would take a full minute or two before the start menu would
start working again.  The hard drive access light appeared to be
unusually active during this period of time. 
The most effective changes may have been: disabling Internet Explorer
add-ons; uninstalling Google Desktop (it performs a duplicate service
to Windows Indexing), disabling the fancy Vista graphics, and
disabling Indexing.  I don't know how much Indexing really affected
the performance, but I didn't like a laptop randomly accessing the
hard drive beyond normal usage.  However, it is enabled, it probably
won't slow things down much. 
Without knowing exactly how JAWS works, I suspect the following
changes are the most likely to have caused trouble, starting with the
most likely:
1) I might have accidentally uninstalled or disabled startup of a program
that
JAWS relied on (possibly due to conditions previously unknown).
2) When I upgraded MS Office, that broke the interaction with JAWS
3) By changing the Vista graphics, I broke the interface between JAWS
and the windows graphics.
4) By uninstalling programs, a random file was changed or deleted,
possibly a dll.  Google Desktop may have touched files somewhat deep
in Windows. 
Shortly before I left, I started to take special note of a process
that had the name "proxy."  I believe that the process was executed by
JAWS, but after JAWS exits, the proxy continues to run.  As a guess, I
suspect that it might act as a proxy to standard windows library API
calls, allowing JAWS to do what it needs to do.  I would not be
surprised if it is extremely difficult or impossible to safely end
this process, which may be why JAWS leaves it running.  Every time I
saw the minute or two delay for the start menu to appear, I believe
this process was running.  Therefore, for the best performance, it may
be necessary to reboot the laptop every time JAWS is closed. 
There are a ton of programs that run on startup.  Most of them don't
do much

[JAWS-Users] RE. Bible Software

2009-12-31 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Cory,
At Optasia Ministry we have a set of Bibles that work well on a desktop
computer as well as a device such as the PAC Mate.
We have 14 Bible versions available .  Each Bible is in html format, so
they run in Internet Explorer.  There are easy links to books, chapters
and verses, and limited search capability.
If you want a Bible to read, in which it is easy to find a specific
passage, this will work very well for you.
We also have all 14 versions in a single collection that will allow you
to easily compare readings in various versions.
These same versions are also available in an html format designed for the
Victor Stream Reader, and in rtf format for use in any screen reader.
You may have any one version, or all of them.
We also have a library of about 500 books that provide a variety of
reading and Bibles study helps.
All of our material is free.
You can see more detail at our website,
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or email me off list at tom@optasiaministry.org
Blessings,
Tom

> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:41:04 -0500
> From: "Corey Cook" 
> To: 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] bible software.
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> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
> 
> Hello all,
> I am looking for good free or paid bible software that will work 
> with jaws 
> 11.0 and vista.
> 
> Corey
> Check out my blog.
> http://www.blindrants.blogspot.com
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[JAWS-Users] A quirk of the spell checker with JAWS

2009-12-22 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
You may have figured this out already, but I discovered something helpful
in using the MS Word spell checker with JAWS.
Often, when I am spell checking JAWS will not read the text in the
window, or tell me what words to substitute. It sometimes keeps reading
the previous problem it flagged instead of the one it's really on.
But I found that if I simply tab once, and then shift tab back, JAWS will
read the problem area normally.
HTH
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE Word Help Please

2009-11-19 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm not sure what you are asking,
But I think the auto correct feature in Word allows you to enter your
common misspellings, and hav Word automatically correct them each time.
Check under Tools, Options, and proofing, or spelling.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:03:45 -0500
> From: "Victoria Vaughan" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word help please
> To: 
> Message-ID: <364ab3bb72094cb7aa0df5e13bd93...@laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a  way to have Word put your 
> misspellings into a  spelling list?  I would find that very 
> helpful.
> 
> Thanks! Vicky

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[JAWS-Users] RE. JAWS and Word 2007

2009-11-01 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Sorry I forgot to change the subject line.. so I'm resending.

Chris is right that it's a matter of learning.
Let me encourage you, that the learning curve is relatively short, and
JAWS works very well with Word 2007.
I really like it.
Take some time to just explore each ribbon menu and make notes on the
items you think you will need.
There are quick key  combinations for almost everything, and after you
learn them, you will be very comfortable with Word 2007.
Blessings,
Tom 

> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:19:57 -0500
> From: "Holger Fiallo" <
holgerfia...@comcast.net>
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and word 2007
> To: <
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi, all
> I just started to use Word 2007 and noticed is so different from 
> 2003. Are there setting that I can configure to make it more 
> accessible to me with jaws? I use the short key commands from 2003 
> and they work. But I just wanted to know if I can make more friendly 
> to me.
> 
> Kind Regard
> 
> Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users-List Digest, Vol 57, Issue 22

2009-11-01 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Chris is right that it's a matter of learning.
Let me encourage you, that the learning curve is relatively short, and
JAWS works very well with Word 2007.
I really like it.
Take some time to just explore each ribbon menu and make notes on the
items you think you will need.
There are quick key  combinations for almost everything, and after you
learn them, you will be very comfortable with Word 2007.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:19:57 -0500
> From: "Holger Fiallo" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and word 2007
> To: 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi, all
> I just started to use Word 2007 and noticed is so different from 
> 2003. Are there setting that I can configure to make it more 
> accessible to me with jaws? I use the short key commands from 2003 
> and they work. But I just wanted to know if I can make more friendly 
> to me.
> 
> Kind Regard
> 
> Holger Fiallo
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[JAWS-Users] RE. making web pages accessible

2009-10-26 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
The American Foundation for the Blind has information on this
http://www.afb.org/section.asp?SectionID=4&TopicID=167

And they refer you to the Web Access Initiative 
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT.

Blessings,
Tom


> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:16:02 -0500
> From: "Jimmy Podsim" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Making web pages accessible.
> To: 
> Message-ID: <00a501ca54d6$0baca9c0$2305fd...@kd5qhh@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Does anybody have links on making web sites accessible with jaws?  
> If so,
> could you send them to kd5...@gmail.com.  I am working with a group 
> creating
> a new site and they have asked for this info to make sure that 
> people using
> screen readers will be able to use their site successfully.
> 
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[JAWS-Users] RE. Running headers Word 2007

2009-10-19 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Enter Alt N, H to get into the headers
If you go with a blank header, press the alt key and tab to the page
number button,
Choose the top of page button
Then you get several options for how the page number is printed.  Arrow
down to the one you want
You can center, or left, or right justify as you would in a document.
Blessings,
Tom

> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Running headers word 2007
> To: 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Sorry if this was already answered but I may have lost the answer in 
> a computer crash.
> 
> here goes,
> Does anyone know how to get jaws to do running headers in word 2007? 
>  
> the running heade must be in the top right corner and look like this 
> lastname pagenumber and the page number should change for each 
> page.
> 
> thanks
> Desyree
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:45:09 -0700
> From: "Kimsan" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws speaking the time
> To: 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi,
> I am using a computer that speaks the time every two minutes, how do 
> I get this to stop?
> Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes 
> you nothing. It was here first. - Mark Twain 
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Re Office 2007 Clipboard Question

2009-10-13 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
To see the contents of the clipboard go to the home menu., Alt E
Tab past the copy, cut, paste options to
Office Clipboard button.
Press enter, and the clip board contents will display.
You may need the JAWS cursor to navigate this.
Blessings,
Tom

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Would anyone happen to have the answer too the��������following ����� question that I posted to the list yesterday?

2009-09-11 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Sorry about my previous failure to change the subject line.
Albert, my response is under the subject line of JAWS Users list.
Blessings,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users-List Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24

2009-09-11 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Albert,
I don't know any way  of getting Office 2007 on 2 computers legally
without purchasing two licenses.
It is possible to buy a multi license copy, but that is still likely to
cost more than 2 licenses.
The trial version that came with your computer may be the cheapest way to
go for that one.
If you try to install Office 2007 with the same product key on two
computers, you will be denied the second time around.  This is because,
when you install you have to connect online to Microsoft, and they keep
track of that sort of thing.
The cost is steep, but a place like Best Buy is likely your best bet.
There are websites that offer deeply discounted copies of Office by
download, but I would not trust them
Since Office 2003 is giving you some problems, the change might be worth
it.
Office 2007 has a bit of a learning curve, because it uses ribbon menus
instead of pull down menus, but I have found that it is not difficult to
learn, and works very well with JAWS 9 and especially with JAWS 10.
If you take that step and want some hints on adapting to the 2007 format,
feel free to contact me.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:08:37 -0400
> From: "Albert Cutolo" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Would anyone happen to have the answer too 
> the
> following question that I posted to the list yesterday?
> To: 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> reply-type=original
> 
> good morning everyone.
> 
> Yesterday, I asked the list, if there was anyway that I could 
> install after 
> purchasing the program for office 2007  with the product key that 
> they 
> provide you with, if I could install it on my desk top computer.  If 
> not, 
> does anyone know how much an additional product key for me too 
> install it on 
> my desktop computer would cost?  If you remember from my post 
> yesterday,  I 
> got a netbook computer which has a 60 day trial period, which will 
> enable me 
> too use the program and then afterwords, I have the option to either 
> install 
> the program through there online process, or by purchasing the 
> program on 
> cd, or dvd if I buy it through another store.  I'm not trying too 
> get the 
> program for free without paying for the product key or extra license 
> if that 
> is what's required, but I just need to know for informational 
> purposes, just 
> how much an additional product key would cost, or how much it would 
> cost too 
> purchase another license for the program would be if that's what I 
> need.
> 
> I'm having a lot of trouble with the version of office 2003 that I 
> currently 
> have on my desktop computer here, along with a lot of trouble using 
> outlook 
> express 6 which I'm using in conjunction with office 2003.  So, 
> that's why 
> I'm asking the above question as  it relates too office 2007. 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how much RAM for Office 2007

2009-08-17 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Cher,
I think 2 GB is enough, and the computer person I work with says it is.
I'm using 3 GB, and it gets a little slow when I'm working with large
documents, such as books that are 1,000 pages.
But memory is rather inexpensive, so a little extra doesn't hurt.
A hint.  If your Recycle bin is too full, that can slow down file access
in XP.  Just empty the recycle bin occasionally.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:33:02 -0400
> From: "Don and Cher Bosch" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] how much RAM for Office 2007
> To: 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Dear All-
>  
> I experimented saving some Word docs in Office 2007 format (with 
> the
> compatibility pack installed but without 2007 installed on the 
> machine) and
> it took forever with latest JAWS and 2 GB of RAM on XP-Pro.  Are you 
> finding
> that you have to purchase more RAM in order to run Office 2007 on 
> XP-Pro
> with JAWS?  Thanks.
>  
> Cher
>  
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Re. Word 2007 - Editing Custom Dictionary

2009-08-16 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Bill,
Alt T, O
will bring you to the options.
Arrow down to proofing, then tab through till you get to the custom
dictionaries button.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:55:06 -0700
> From: "Bill Tipton" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2007 - Editing Custom Dictionary
> To: 
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> 
> Hello,
> How can I Edit the Custom Dictionary in Word 2007? I am using Jaws 
> 10.
> I recently moved from Word 2003 and cannot find this option in Word 
> 2007. 
> Thank you,
> 
> Bill
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Re: [JAWS-Users] which Microsoft suites are most Jaws accessible?

2009-07-16 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I have worked with Microsoft Word extensively.
Word 2007 has a learning curve, but is very accessible with JAWS,
especially if you are using JAWS 10.
I am very pleased with it, and did not find the new style of menus very
difficult to learn.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE laptop keyboard commands

2009-07-15 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Arianna
There are many more possibilities, but I've given you the ones I use most
often for basic reading and editting.
the JAWS help topics should give you more information.
There will always be some options built into the system that we  as
individual users don't need, so we have to search out the ones that work
in our situation.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE laptop command for reading current line

2009-07-15 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
If you have JAWS set to the laptop keyboard setting, the caps lock key
becomes the JAWS key.
As you hold the caps lock key with your left fifth finger, the keys under
your right hand become navigation reading keys.
JAWS key plus
I, reads the current line
U, reads the previous line
O, reads the next line

Then, JAWS key plus
K, reads the current word
J, reads the previous word
L, reads the next word

And JAWS key plus
comma, reads the current letter
M, reads the previous letter
period, reads the next letter

Note that if you press the caps lock key twice quickly, it toggles the
caps lock feature.
If you don't want all letters capitalized, just tap the caps lock key
twice quickly and you'll be back to normal typing mode.
Blessings,
Tom
> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:29:58 -0400
> From: "Arianna Calesso" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop command for reading current line
> To: 
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> 
> The subject line asks my question.
> 
> Arianna

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[JAWS-Users] Apology from Tom

2009-07-10 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm sorry David about the Victor Stream Reader post.
I meant to put it on the Blind Computing list, and goofed.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] Victor Reader Stream Information

2009-07-09 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I direct a ministry that provides Bibles and a large library of books for
Christians who are blind.
I do not have a Victor Reader Stream, but a number of those who contact
us do.
I'm wondering if someone would be willing to answer a couple questions
and give me some information that will help us provide useful resources.
I know that the Victor Rreader will read rtf files.
So if I provide someone with the Bible, with each book in its individual
file, how does one navigate and find a specific passage with the VSR?
Is there a better way to provide the Bible.  For example, would a single
RTF file of the entire Bible be better than each book in a separate file?
Second, can the VSR read html files.
We have several versions of the Bible in html format with easy links to
books, chapters and verses.  Can one use the VSR to click on links and
move to different parts of the Bible?
If you want to email me off  list, you can send a message to
tom@optasiaministry.org
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE. Question about Office 2007

2009-06-25 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
David,
While there is a learning curve to Office 2007, I don't think it is a big
one.
The tutorial mentioned before is available.
But here's what I have done without the tutorial.
Give yourself a couple hours when you aren't trying to get a particular
job done.
Open a document or make  a short new one.  Then explore.
First choose Alt f, for the File menu.  Then tab or arrow through the
options.
Whenever you come across one that you need to know, make a note of it. 
Keep this list of notes as a separate document.
Then choose Alt E, for the Home ribben menue.  Tab through the options
there, noting on your list, the things you want to remember for future
use.
As you go through, listen to what JAWS tells you about the key
combinations for various commands.  This is what you want to take notes
on.
After you finish with  the Home menu, Choose Alt E again, but rather than
tab, use the right arrow.  This will bring you to the next ribbon menu,
which you can explore by tabbing through the options.
You can explore each of the ribbon menus this way.
You will learn the most common key combinations quickly, and for those
that you use less often, your document with all the notes is the first
place you will turn.
Note also that many of the commands you learned in previous versions of
Office will work in 2007.
For example, Alt T S, will bring up the spell checker.
Alt O F will bring up the font menu
Alt O C will bring up the columns menu
I'm sure that with a couple hours of exploring, you will feel much more
confident.
I am not an expert with Office, but feel free to email me with specific
questions.
Blessings,
Tom

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> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:22:20 -0500
> From: "David Thomas" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about microsoft office 2007
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> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> How do you cope with the ribbons and can you give me the basics  of 
> the ribbon
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[JAWS-Users] RE Inconsistencies between JAWS 10 and Word 2007

2009-06-03 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Chris,
I find this frustrating too.
I've noted difficulties with the spell checker when I previously used
Office 2000, and previous versions of JAWS as well.
So I'm sorry I know of no fix, but I suspect it's something FS would have
to work on.
Have you communicated with their tech support?
Blessings,
Tom
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:17:20 +0100
> From: "Chris Hallsworth" 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Inconsistencies between JAWS 10 and Word 2007
> To: 
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> reply-type=original
> 
> Hello all,
> I'm noticing the above issue when it comes to spell checking a 
> document. At 
> the moment I find it frustrating when it comes to proofreading. A 
> good 
> example of such problem is, "not in dictionary: type in text. 
> alt+:.". Is 
> there a fix for this? Using JAWS 10 latest and Office 2007 SP2. 
> Please 
> advise. Thanks.

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[JAWS-Users] RE JAWS and Adobe 9

2009-05-23 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Thanks for the input.
The only thing I didn't try was saving the file first.  So I did that and
ended up with the same result.
I think I'll take this up with FS.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE JAWS and Adobe 9

2009-05-22 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm using JAWS 10.
The strange thing is I'm able to process other Adobe files without any
trouble.

> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 01:53:17 +0100
> From: "Flor Lynch" 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Adobe Reader 9
> To: 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Which JAWS version? Or did it happen with different JAWS versions?
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "First CRC Tom Vos" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:24 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Adobe Reader 9
> 
> 
> I had to download a file in Adobe format.
> I'm using Adobe Reader 9, with the accesibility options set.
> But every time I tried to download the file, the program would quit
> responding.  I tried it on three different computers with the same
> result.
> When we unloaded JAWS we were able to access the file and turn it 
> into
> text.
> Does anyone have  any idea why JAWS might interact with Adobe or a
> certain file download this way?Blessings,
> Tom

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS and Adobe Reader 9

2009-05-21 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I had to download a file in Adobe format.
I'm using Adobe Reader 9, with the accesibility options set.
But every time I tried to download the file, the program would quit
responding.  I tried it on three different computers with the same
result.
When we unloaded JAWS we were able to access the file and turn it into
text.
Does anyone have  any idea why JAWS might interact with Adobe or a
certain file download this way?Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE Word 2007 page setup

2009-05-18 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Press Alt P, and then M .  This will bring you to the margins window.
There are some standard margin set ups there, including the most recent
custom one you have used.  
At the bottom of the list is the option for custom settings.  Enter on
that and you will be able to enter new top bottom, left and right margin
settings.
If you have questions about other options, please ask.
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE JAWS and Biblical Greek

2009-04-30 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Mark,
I can't give you all the answers, so as someone else mentioned, a call to
Freedom Scientific might be helpful.

As the director of Optasia Ministry, I can tell you that we have made
some effort to help those who want to read Biblical Greek.
First, if you are using a Pac Mate or some other Braille display, you
will be able to read the Biblical Greek, by learning a few symbols.
An alpha in Greek is the same as an A in English.
A beta is the same as a B.
But some Greek characters don't have an exact equivalent in English text.
 That's why there are a few extra symbols.
If you are reasonably fluent at reading  Graille, you may wish to explore
this option.
We can provide you with the Greek text in Braille reading format, or you
can visit the site of the Bartimaeus Alliance for the Blind, which is
where we got the material.

Second, I have made some effort to adjust the Greek text into a form that
will sound similar to the way we normally pronounce the Greek words. 
This means, for example, I have changed the Braile reading character for
theta into "th".This may be helpful for reading, but if you use this
in seminary studies you will need to understand the changes I have made
to the text so that you can understand the text properly.

Then, I want you to know that Optasia Ministry has a significant library
of study resources that will help you in your studies.
We have Introductions to the Old and New Testament.
Theologies of the Old and New Testament
The Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament and the Theological
Dictionary of the New Testament (single volume) which will enable you to
do individual word studies.
We have a variety of Bible translations.
We have some very important commentaries available, such as the New
International Commentary on the New Testament (adding that right now),
Many volumes of the Word Biblical Commentary series, and most of the NIV
Application Commentary, among others.
In addition you will find books on leadership, apologetics, homiletics,
prayer and spirituality, pastoral care and a number of devotional books.

We offer this material free of charge.  If you would like to receive the
library:
Send me your name and mailing address
A simple statement that you are blind or have a visual disability
And your preference for receiving the material on a single DVD or a set
of three CD's.

If you have more questions, or to request the library, please contact me
at
tom@optasiaministry.org

Blessings,
Tom  Vos, director

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[JAWS-Users] RE Spell Check in Upper case

2009-04-10 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
If you are looking for a spell checker, that is built into a program like
MS Office.
It is not the function of JAWS or an operating system like XP to do spell
checking.
Blessings,
Tom

> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:22:38 -0400
> From: "Kenbu" 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spell check and upper case.
> To: 
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> reply-type=original
> 
> Hi there everyone;  I have jaws 10.0, and am wondering if either xp 
> classic 
> or even jaws has a spell and how does one activate it?  Any help 
> appreciated; Ken B
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Spell check and upper case.

2009-04-10 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
You ha e to go to Word Options.
Alt T, O
Find the Proofing section.
Tab through and you will find a check box for checking words in capital
letters.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE question about Word files

2009-04-03 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
You can make Word files read only.
When you highlight the file in the directory, press the applications key
and go to properties.
Tab through the options and you will find a check box for "read only"
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[JAWS-Users] RE Office 2003 menus in Office 2007

2009-02-22 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I have not used this patch, but have heard that it is available and
works.
I want to also note that some of the keystrokes we used in the older
versions of Office are still available to us in 2007.
And note that Office 2007 is fully accessible from the keyboard.
Most all of us do not like change, but in my experience this has not been
a difficult one.
I even switch between 2007 and 2000 on different computers with little
problem.
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE Reading header levers in MS Word

2009-02-04 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Annette,
To get into the Say All Mode, you press the JAWS Key, plus the down arrow
key on the num pad.
Then  the H command will move you to headers, rather than adding an H to
your document.
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE Forms Mode, On or Off

2009-02-02 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Thanks for your help on this one.
I didn't realize that was a new feature.
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] Forms Mode, On or off

2009-02-02 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I know I am supposed to press enter to get into forms mode,
but sometimes when I get on a web page I am already in forms mode and
don't know it.
I have not yet pressed enter, but when I do, it's like I entered on a
continue button.
Is there an explanation for this?
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] Upgrading Office 2003 to 2007

2009-01-26 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I am using Office 2007.
I did not upgrade, but just installed the new version.
But I can affirm that Office 2007 can handle all my old files in Word and
Excell.
Outlook contacts should be transferrable.
I've been very pleased with Office 2007 and how well JAWS 9 and 10 work
with it.
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[JAWS-Users] RE Need help with Office 2007 and JAWS

2009-01-15 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I've been using Office 2007 with JAWS 9 and 10 for over a year, and find
they work very well together.
My computer was new at the time I started Office 2007 -- 3G of RAM and
dual core processor.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
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[JAWS-Users] RE Ms Word 2003 printing pages

2009-01-14 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
There are actually two ways of doing this.
1. Some printers can do duplex printing, but that's an expense you don't
need to make for a small amount of printing.

2. In the MS Word Print menu there are two ways to do this.
a. Alt G will allow you to type in the specific pages you want to print.
I often do this for small documents.
   First I enter 6,4,2 and print.
   Turn the pages over manually and enter 1,3,5.
When I do it in this order, they come out in order.
2. The second way is to tab down to the, Printt combo box.
Or Alt P
There you have options such as all pages in range, odd
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2008-12-05 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Thanks for all the good tips.
I like the N command for jumping past the initial clutter, bringing me to
the first non link text.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE Upgrading to Office 2007

2008-12-04 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
If employees in a large organization like NML are being expected to
switch to Office 2007, it begs the question to tell them not to upgrade.
That is not a possibility, and telling them not to upgrade does them a
disservice.
I'm not an expert with Office, but with a relatively short learning
curve, I've been able to make the switch over and do quite well with it.
If you have a choice on your personal computer about whether to upgrade
to Office 2007, and 2000 or 2003 are working well for you, I would advise
that you don't spend the money.  I don't see that 2007 offers any great
advantages over the previous versions.
But wen employees are going to have to adapt to changes in their
companies, we on this list owe them the encouragement that it can be
done, and it does not take super human effort, just a modest amout of
time to learn the new methods.
My office computer has Office 2007, and my home computer has Office 2000.
 I can switch back and forth between them and do the same tasks without
difficulty.
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[JAWS-Users] RE Jaws and Office 2007

2008-12-04 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Mar,,
I made the switch from Office 2000 to Office 2007 in January with JAWS 9,
and recently upgraded to JAWS 10.
I have found that JAWS 9 works very well with Office 2007, and JAWS 10
resolved a problem I had reading in Access.
Perhaps the biggest issue in making the switch to Office 2007 is the
change to ribbon menus.
Please encourage your people that using Office 2007 is very doable.
There is a learning curve with the change to ribbon menus.
Many of the key strokes are the same as previous versions.
Alt T, plus S, still puts you in the spell checker.
Alt O, plus C still opens the columns menu window.
Alt O, plus F still brings up the font window.
I urge new users of Office 2007 to set aside some time to explore.
Then, as they discover how to access the commands they need to use,
prepare a "cheat sheet" to which they can go back to, until the commands
are committed to memory.
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[JAWS-Users] RE Office 2007

2008-11-15 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm using Office 2007, and find it works well with JAWS 9
I've only had JAWS 10 on my computer for one day yet, but it has solved
one problem I've had in Access.
I'm very happy with it, but if 2003 is working well for you, I don't see
a great advantage in spending the money to upgrade.
I can't speak to the security issue.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] : Re: using jaws nine and office 2007

2008-11-14 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I've been using JAWS 9 with Office 2007 for all of 2008, and find it
works very well.
You will have a learning curve as you figure out how to access the ribbon
menus, but give yourself some time to explore and you will do fine.
I am very happy with both JAWS and Office 2009.
Blessings,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and using word 2007

2008-10-25 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm using Office 2007, especially Word, and some Excell and a little
Access.
I find it works very well with JAWS 9.
If you are going to use Office 2007, you'd be best off with JAWS 9,
rather than an earlier version of JAWS.
JAWS 10 will help with that too when it comes out.
Some key strokes are the same.
Navigation keys for reading are the same.
Control s still saves a file
Alt O, plus F still brings yu to the font window
Alt T plus S still brings up the spell checker.
However, there are quite a number of changes.  But let me assure you,
that if you are patient, and spend some time when you are not pressed to
get work done, you will be able to manage quite well.
When I began I made myself a cheet sheet file.
When I had to search through the ribbon menu to find an option, I would
record it on my cheat sheet.
Then I could go back to it when I needed it.
By now, I am using the common ones without any need to refer to the cheat
sheet.
If Office 2000 or 2003 is working well for you, there is probably no need
to upgrade, but if you are going to switch, the new version is very
accessible.
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE JAWS and Office 2007

2008-10-08 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Hannah asks if Office 2007 is better than Office 2003.
My answer would be that if Office 2003, or even Office 2000 is working
well for you, you won't find any great advantage in upgrading.  In many
ways it does the same things, so there is no pressure to run out and
upgrade.
But for those who do have to deal with Office 2007, JAWS 9 works well
with it, and JAWS 10 beta 2 has improved it.
Sometimes we grumble about Microsoft monopoly, but that kind of market
share also gives them the freedom to put money into accesibility. I was
sitting on an airplane awhile back with my Pac Mate in my lap, and a man
came down the aisle, noticed my machine, and noted that he worked for
Microsoft in their accessibility division.
A company that is fighting for its market share may not be able to
provide as much accessibility.
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE JAWS and Office 2007

2008-10-08 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Let me just follow up my previous post with some words of encouragement.
Office 2007 is not extremely difficult to learn.
Yes, it takes some practice, and the menus have changed some.
ButI'm not a highly skilled computer user, and I picked it up rather
quickly, so I'm sure that you can too.
Just a bit of patience and self confidence will see you through a long
ways.
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE JAWS ad Office 2007

2008-10-07 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I am mostly familiar with MS Word, and after about 9 months with it, I
like it.
There is a learning curve, but if you can take some time without having
to get a job done, you can pick it up.
I recommend that you make yourself a cheat sheet.  That is, when you
figure out how to do something, make a note of it on the cheat sheet, so
you can find that information back quickly.
After awhile you will learn the common commands and will be breezing
along.
Note that some keyboard commands are the same as previous Office
versions.
Alt T plus S still gets you into the spell checker.
Alt O plus F gets you into the font menue
Alt O plus C gets you to the columns menu

You still have the menus across the top of the screen.
Alt P brings you to the Page menu.  Then you will tab through all the
options there.
As you find the ones that you need, record them on your cheat sheet.
The Tabs menu is one that was a little difficult to find.  Alt P, plus
PG, then Alt T

If you choose Alt P to get to the page menu, you can use your arrow keys
to move across the top of the screen to the other menus, then tab through
them to find the options you are looking for.
This way you will also learn the key combinations to get to those menus.

When you land on an option, listen carefully, and JAWS will tell you the
key combinations to get there.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 10 and custmer support

2008-09-26 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
We all have frustrations with software, but I want to write a note of
appreciation for Freedom Scientific's work on JAWS 10.
I had an issue with JAWS 9 not reading parts of an MS Access data base.
JAWS 10 beta release 1 addressed part of it, but not all, so I sent in a
report.
I received a phone call from one of the programmers.  He asked me to send
him the data base (a custome design).  Then he called me back and we
talked through a few steps until he had JAWS  working correctly with it.
The latest release for the beta version is reading everything in the data
base.
I'm sure there are few software developers who give attention to that
kind of customer support.
Blessings,
Tom

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[JAWS-Users] RE maximizing Word 2007

2008-09-08 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Yes, it is maximized.
I've done a bit of experimenting and you can't make it any bigger or fill
any more of the screen.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE Maximizing Word 2007

2008-09-08 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Cher,
When I press Alt plus the space bar I get the menu for maximizing the
window.
That leaves you with the ribbon tool bars across the top of the screen
and the document window below that.
Hope that helps.
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[JAWS-Users] RE JAWS very sluggish in Word 2007

2008-09-05 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I just posted to the list about an article I sent to Patricia on his kind
of thing.
Although I earlier recommned deleting he Normal.do file,
the Microsoft recommendatin is to rename it.
The article is rather long.
E-mail me and I will send yu a copy.
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[JAWS-Users] Using JAWS 10 beta

2008-09-03 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm hoping to try out JAWS 10 beta.
What's the procedure?
Should I uninstall JAWS 9 first?
Can I keep JAWS 9 and try JAWS 10, and switch back to JAWS 9 if I wish
to?
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[JAWS-Users] RE JAWS 9 very sluggish in Word

2008-08-23 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Patti,
the ~ means that file is probably in use by Word.
Make sure you exit from Word before you begin this procedure.
The likelihood is that Windows won't allow you to delete the normal.dot 
file when the ~ file is there.
You might even want to reboot your computer and go through the procedure
before starting Word.
If it is still there delete both the ~ file and the Normal.dot file.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE JAWS 9 very sluggish in Word

2008-08-23 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Patti,
You started right but got off track.
>From Documents and Settings to Owner is probably correct.
But then you need Application Data
Then Microsoft
Then Templates
In the Template folder you will find the Normal.dot file that you want to
delete.
If you don't find it there, check other folders listed with the Owner
folder and follow the path from there through Application Data,
Microsoft, and Templates
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE Windows Mail Stuck Message

2008-08-22 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
This is a problem with Windows Mail that I had hoped Microsoft would have
fixed with the first service pack.
Someone else may have a better Idea, but I had to search through
Documents and Settings until I found the Outbox folder and delete it.
Make sure you don't have anything else in the Outbox that you want to
keep.
Windows will create a new Outbox folder and you can start over fresh.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] RE Jaws 9 is very sluggish in MS Word 2007

2008-08-22 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Patti,
I'm not sure what you mean by "getting past the template:, Patti.  I'll
suggest an answer, but get back to me if you need more help.
When you've worked your way through the folders, and find the template
folder, you are looking for a file  called Normal.dot
Since you are using Word 2003, the template extension is different than
Lisa who is using Word 2007.
When you are in the list view of folders you should be able to arrow down
until JAWS says you are on the Normal.dot file.
At that point you can press the delete key, and when asked if you want to
delete this file, choose the Yes option.
Blessings,
Tom



Hey Tom,
I tried to do all your steps, but I couldn't get passed the template. I 
couldn't right arrow, or enter on it, so what do I do now?
I have MS 2003, Jaws 8, windows XP.
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[JAWS-Users] RE Jaws 9 is very sluggish in MS Word 2007 (Lisa)

2008-08-21 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Lisa,
Since I haven't seen any response to your question, I'm going to take a
stab at it.
I'm using Office 2007 with Windows XP and it works very well, so I don't
think waiting for JAWS 10 is the answer.  Plus that's a ways off yet.
I had a similar problem awhile back.  For some reason the Normal template
gets messed up and causes slow down problems.
The Normal template is the file Word goes to every time you choose to
start a new, blank document.
You simply need to delete the Normal template.  Word will create a new
one, so you don't have to worry about losing something essential.  Or if
you are concerned about this simply cut and paste the file to a
different, temporary location.  It can be deleted later after you know
you do not need it.
Here's what you can do.
Open My Computer/Windows Explorer.
Go to the Local, C drive
Find the Documents and Settings folder and open it.
Then you will need to find the correct folder for your computer.  There
will be folders like, Administrator All users, Default User.
On my computer I need to look under a folder called Tom, but of course
that will  be different on your computer.
If you are unsure just look in each of the folders for the following
folders and search through them until you find the right one with the
normal template in it.

The next folder you need is called Application Data
In that folder you will find another one called Microsoft
In the Microsoft folder you will find a folder called Templates
When you open this folder you will find a folder called Normal.dotm
Then you can do one of two things: 
1. Delete it
2. Or if you want to keep it around for safety sake to restore it if need
be, you can cut and paste it to a different, temporary location.
When this is done, restart Word and see if this helps.
Blessings,
Tom

 
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Hello everyone,
My jaws 9 is very sluggish in Microsoft word 2007, and I don't know why. 
I know that was one of the things that was supposed to be improved in
jaws 9,
but mine is very slow.  When I listened to the what's new in jaws 9 Daisy
book that was one of the things that was demonstrated, and there's was
very fast. 
When I read or write in Outlook Express, or the HJ Pad jaws works great,
but when I do the same thing in MS Word 2007 jaws 9 is very very slow. 
Does anyone
have any ideas of what I can try to fix this, or should I just wait for
jaws 10 to come out?  I thought about just waiting for the release of
jaws 10,
but I know this problem was worked on for jaws 9.  Any thoughts on this
would be greatly appreciated!  I'm running Jaws 9, and windows XP home
addition. 
 
Take care,
Lisa   
 

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[JAWS-Users] RE Using Office 2007 with JAWS ad XP

2008-08-06 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm using JAWS 9, Office 2007 and Windows XP Home.
I'm very happy with it.
You will have a learning curve with Office, since some things work
differently, but take some time when you are not under pressure to get a
job done and explore.  It works well.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS reading passwords

2008-08-05 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
It's understandable that when I type in a password, JAWS simply says
"star, star, star..."
because that's what's appearing on the screen.
Is there a way to hear what I am actually typing in there?
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE Vista Malfunctions

2008-07-24 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I wonder if Vista will become the OS of the future.
Was it Windows ME that was a flop?
As with many things in life, time will tell if Vista survives and becomes
widely adopted in the business worl.
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[JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

2008-07-24 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
David,
I'm sorry that you had all the problems you did with Vista.  If I were in
your shoes, I would have made the same switch.
It's puzzling, isn't it, that Vista can work well for some users, and be
the pits for others?
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

2008-07-24 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I can understand that you might want to drop Vista if you have had that
many problems, but not all of us have those kind of issues with Vista.
It's a new OS and It's not surprising that some of us have issues and
that we run into glitches.
But I wouldn't throw out Vista because of minor problems, and I think I
heard that is where this original thread started.
Vista requires some time to learn, as does Office 2007, but unless Vista
gets scrapped, we are all going to have to deal with it in the years
ahead.
So my recommendation is that we make a distinction between major problems
and the minor glitches,
Distinguish between problems that make Vista useless and those that need
to patiently follow the learning curve.
Blessings,
Tom
 
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Hi, Andrew. 
 
Dave here. 
 
Personally, my expirences with Windows Vista have been absolutely horrid,

mostly with program incompatibility issues, and hardware just not working

with it.  It did not like JAWS of any version, and for the month I had
it, 
it was a non stop headache of one problem after another, including
hardware 
crashes, program crashes, and a total inability to use my computer at
all. 
 
I finally got fed up with it, and had my rehab officer send my machine
back 
to Dell, and had XP SP3 put back on it. I just got it back a few weeks
ago, 
and have had no problems at all since. And since my machine is a Dell
Vostro 
1500 with 2 GB of ram, a Intel Dual core processor, and a 145 GB hard
drive, 
that was originally desinged to handle the rigors of Vista, XP SP3  runs
on 
it like a top. 
 
Imho, I would drop Vista like a hot potato, and go back to XP. 
 

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[JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

2008-07-24 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm using a laptop with Vista, Office 2007 and JAWS 9
I also use a desktop with XP, Office 2007 and JAWS 9

On the laptop I have noticed an occasional problem with the Alt F4
combination not working.  It's a little irritating, but There are other
ways around it that are quite quick.  Shutting down the computer can be
done with the Windows Key to open the main menu, then pressing U to get
to the shut down menu.

Vista and Office 2007 have some significant changes, and if you are new
to them they can be rather frustrating.
Remember that many of the key strokes you  used in previous versions of
Office still work in 2007.
Alt O and then F brings you to the Font menu.
Alt T and then S opens the spell checker.

I stayed with XP on my desk top because of familiarity, but i have come
to really like Office 2007.
I recommend that those who are new to Office 2007 take some time, when
they don't have to get something done and explore.
The menus are different, and you just have to learn a few new ways of
getting to things.
Alt P brings you to the Page menu and then you can tab through the
various options there.
As you do, take note of the actions you use, and record them on a
separate cheat sheet that you can go back to quickly for reference. 
Eventually you will learn the key strokes and you won't need the cheat
sheet as much.
The menu's on the top of the screen have different names.  But if you go
to the Page menu, for example, you can arrow across to the other menus,
learn their names and tab through the options under them  
The Home menu, for example, contains the old Edit menu items.  There is a
Mailing Tab where you will find the envelope and label options, instead
of under the old Tool menu.
I think Office 2007 is doable for us since Microsoft has made virtually
everything accessible for us.
Blessings, 
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[JAWS-Users] RE Word and XL 2007

2008-07-11 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
There will be some differences, but yu will find that many of the
keyboard commands you've been using still work in Office 2007.
I use Word intensively and Excell a little.  I was able to switch from
Office 2000 to Office 2007 without a great deal of trouble.
In Word, for example, Alt O, F still brings you to the Font menu.
Alt O, C still brings you to the columns menu 
In Excell the Alt plus Equals command gives you a quick way to total a
column.

However Microsoft has changed things in 2007.  Fortunately they are still
quite concious of accessibility.
I think this is one of the advantages of a near monopoly.  They have the
money and resources to care about accessibility, which companies which
are cutting the margin close cannot do.
I'm not a big Microsoft fan, but I do appreciate what they do for us.

That being said, when you get Office 2007 you will not have the familiar
pull down menus.  The names have changed and the locations of some of the
items you need will be hard to find.
But only for awhile.
Make sure you give yourself some time to look around when you aren't
rushing to get a project finished.
Alt P, for exampel, will bring you the the Page Layout tab.  Then you
will tab through the various options there.  As you reach an option you
want to use, JAWS will tell you the key combinations to get there faster.
I suggest you compile a "cheat sheet" -- a summary of the commands you
need.  For awhile you will refer back to it, but you will soon reach a
point that you know the commands from memory and you will soon become
comfortable with 2007, just as you are with 2003.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE In Desperate need of help with laptop

2008-07-09 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Christy,
On my Dell laptop Insert plus F11 does open the system tray andV does
bring me to some volume options, but without sighted help it would be
hard to figure out the next steps, so I echo the advice to seek sighted
help.
Also, on my lap top there are buttons for changing volume and one of
those mutes the sound.  Perhaps that is what happened to you.  If someone
can show you the volume buttons, if you have them, you may have some
valuable information for the future.
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[JAWS-Users] RE Windows Vista Question

2008-07-02 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
To change volume on my laptop with Windows Vista this is what I do.
Press Windows Key plus M to get to the desk top.
Tab four times to the notification area.
Up arrow twice and press enter.
The volume can then be adjusted with the up and down arrow keys.
Your notification area may be different than mine, but after you tab four
times, use the up or down arrows till JAWS tells you it is on the volume
control.  Then press Enter.
There are a couple kinds of volume controls.  The one called Sigma Tell
is not the one I use.  Try the other one.
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[JAWS-Users] RE CD & DVD drives

2008-06-12 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
You might check the properties of the drive.
Highlight the drive in my computer and press the applications key.
choose properties.
Go to the recording tab, and make sure the recording is enabled for this
drive.
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[JAWS-Users] RE Freedom Import Printer

2008-06-06 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
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[JAWS-Users] Freedom Import Printer

2008-06-05 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Since I started using JAWS I notice in my list of printers one called
Freedom Import Printer
I'm curious.  Does that have something to do with Freedom Scientific?
If so what is it there for?
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[JAWS-Users] Re Word problem

2008-05-23 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I'm using JAWS 9 and Word 2007.
Temp files show up here too.
Whenever you work on a Word file, it seems Word creates that temp file. 
I don't know the reason for it, but it is always there.
When I save and exit the file, sometimes the temp file disappears and
sometimes it doesn't.  I occasionally have to delete some of the temp
files manually.
I jumped from Word 2000 to 2007, and had the same thing happen in both.
However, the problem of getting hung up in Word and having the use the
end task option is a new one for me.
Sorry I can't help on that., but one thing I've found helpful several
times is the Google the problem.
Just type in a few words that describe the problem in the Google search
box and see what you come up with.
Blessings,
Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Phonenumbers

2008-05-07 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Hi,
I do something like you mention here.  I divide the numbers up, using the
numerals.
I can remember 3 or four numerals at a time.
I also get rid of the parentheses and dashes most people use, since they
just confuse me.
If necessary, I have Jaws read three digits, which I dial, then have JAWS
read the next set of digits, which I dial, and then the last set of
digits.
Blessings,
Tom
 
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> Hi all,
> how do I get jaws to say the digits individually and not for example 
> as 
> 'fourtythousandthreehundredseventy', because I cannot follow this 
> and 
> remember a number that way to dial it.
> In my own addressbook I kind of try and bypass this by seperating 
> groups of 
> three digits togeter and seperate them by 2 spaces. that way I can 
> remember 
> better.
> I have looked in verbosity but found nothing for thisproblem so 
> far.
> 
> thanks in advance,
> chrissy 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Nero Express Scripts

2008-05-03 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
David,
This one looks interesting to me.
I know little about scripts.
What do these scripts do?  Make Nero Express more accessible with JAWS?
Blessings,
Tom
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Making a selection in a combo box

2008-04-17 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Sometimes you need to use the combination of Alt and down arrow to open a
list in a combo box.
Blessings,
Tom
 
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> Hello everyone,
> I was on a web site and I wanted to register, so I hit f for forms 
> mode.  I landed in a combo box, and I needed to select something.  
> Jaws said use your up or down arrow keys to make a selection.  As 
> soon as I hit my down arrow key to look at my choices I went back 
> out of forms moad.  How can I make my selection in the combo box if 
> I'm always taken back out of forms mode?  I'm running jaws 9, IE7, 
> and windows XP home edition.  If anyone could help me out with this 
> I would really appreciate it!  Thanks in advance!
> Take care,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] office 2003/2007

2008-04-11 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
2007 has a bit of a learning curve with the ribbon menus, but it works
well with JAWS 9.
Blessings,
Tom

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> Hi Microsoft office users, 
> I am planning on purchasing the Microsoft student version. It is 
> cheaper than just purchasing word. I only plan to use it to write 
> occasional letters and stories for my web page. Which version is the 
> best or easiest to use with jaws 9. I downloaded the trial of 2007 
> and am not sure about the ribbons. Is 2003 the same? I found the 
> student 2003 on sale for $64 not a bad price. I haven't been able to 
> locate a demo copy of 2003.
> I did discover that the 2007 dictionary will not work with outlook 
> express however the dictionary add in on the jaws program page is 
> fantastic. Thanks David.
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Ms office

2008-04-08 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I don't know what this means.
I use Word 2007 and the spell checker works fine with English.
Blessings,
Tom
 
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> Hi there:
> 
> If you plan on never using the spell checker, then go ahead and 
> install 
> office 2007.  The spell checker in 2007 only works with French 
> language. 
> Why that is?  You will have to ask Microsoft that..
> 
> Reese
> 
> - Original Message - What version of word works best with 
> jaws? I 
> have jaws 9 installed.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Ms office

2008-04-08 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Note too that you can left justify the text with Control L
and right justify the text with Control R
JAWS will say, Alighn left, or Align right.
So if you center something and want to uncenter it, use the Control L
command.
Blessings,
Tom
 
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> Hi Denny,
>  Thank you for the short cut key for centering text. it worked 
> like a 
> charm.
> 
> God bless,
> Mark
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> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ms office
> 
> 
> > Mark,
> > Most of the same commands that worked in 2003 will still work in 
> 2007.
> > Centering text is still control e.
> >
> >
> > Denny Huff
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> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:35 PM
> > To: lLenny McHugh; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ms office
> >
> > Hi
> > Personally, I find office 2003 easier to use but I am learning 
> how to
> > use MS Office 2007. I just don't know where to find what I want 
> (like
> > centering text) in the new version.
> >
> > God bless,
> > Mark
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "lLenny McHugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:32 PM
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop and num pad

2008-03-19 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
JAWS is designed to work on laptops.
In the setup you have to choose the laptop keyboard option.
Then the caps lock key becomes the JAWS key, and you can use it in
combination with several other letter keys to navigate, as you do with
the desktop keyboard num pad.
You can connect a standard keyboard to the laptop if you wish, but I
won't comment on that since I haven't done it.
Blessings,
Tom 
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:00:09 -0400 "Roger Bachelder"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello everyone,
>  
> Can someone tell me if you need the num pad on a laptop for jaws to 
> work
> properly? 
> and if not, is there a certain thing i need to look for to be able 
> to plug
> in a external keyboard?
> I've never used a laptop before, so i'm not sure how someone would 
> go
> between the PC, Jaws, and invisible cursor, if there was no num 
> pad.
> Any thoughts anyone?
> Thanks yawl,
>  
>  
> Roger C Bachelder 3rd
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Re: [JAWS-Users] about email

2008-03-18 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I should also mention that I tried using Outlook 2000 with Vista and
found it doesn't work.
I don't know about Outlook 2003
Blessings,
Tom
 
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:12:37 -0400 "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> This sounds very much like what happens in outlook express when a DBX 
> file 
> becomes corrupted, delete it an let the program recreate for you.
> David Ferrin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ----- Original Message - 
> From: "First CRC Tom Vos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] about email
> 
> 
> > It's probably not the fault of the message or sender.
> > There is a defect in Windows Mail, the Vista e-mail program that 
> causes
> > this glitch.
> > The only way I know of to solve this is to use Windows Explorer to 
> go
> > into Documents and Settings and find the folder, Inbox, for 
> example,
> > where this undeleteable e-mail is, and delete that folder.
> > Vista will create a new folder on its own.
> > Note that any other emails in that folder will also be gone, so 
> save them
> > first.
> > I had this happen to me three times before I gave up on Windows 
> Mail and
> > went to Outlook 2007
> > Blessings,
> > Tom
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:57:30 -0500 "larry mcdonald" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > writes:
> >> I got a message from the group about free brail cook book and now 
> I
> >> can not delete the message or move it to another folder I come 
> up
> >> with an unexpted error and nothing I seem to do works.  the 
> message
> >> came from John Malia, I was under the understanding that we were 
> not
> >> suppose to put stuff like this in the group email. Does anyone 
> have
> >> any ideas about this problem I use windows vista home premier 
> Larry
> >> McDonald
> >> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> >> http://www.jaws-users.com
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Pastor Tom Vos
> > First Christian Reformed Church
> > 12420 185th St. Wellsburg, IA 50680
> > 641-869-3305;
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> >
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> >
> > 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] about email

2008-03-18 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
It's probably not the fault of the message or sender.
There is a defect in Windows Mail, the Vista e-mail program that causes
this glitch.
The only way I know of to solve this is to use Windows Explorer to go
into Documents and Settings and find the folder, Inbox, for example,
where this undeleteable e-mail is, and delete that folder. 
Vista will create a new folder on its own.
Note that any other emails in that folder will also be gone, so save them
first.
I had this happen to me three times before I gave up on Windows Mail and
went to Outlook 2007
Blessings, 
Tom

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:57:30 -0500 "larry mcdonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> I got a message from the group about free brail cook book and now I 
> can not delete the message or move it to another folder I come up 
> with an unexpted error and nothing I seem to do works.  the message 
> came from John Malia, I was under the understanding that we were not 
> suppose to put stuff like this in the group email. Does anyone have 
> any ideas about this problem I use windows vista home premier Larry 
> McDonald 
> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> http://www.jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Experience with Microsoft Office 2007

2008-03-03 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
Office 2007 still has menus, but they operate different and are named
different.
Some of the old keyboard commands work,  for example, Alt O, F still
brings you to the Font page.
But we now have to deal with ribbon menus.  
Alt P will put you in the page layout tab, and then you will tab through
the options on the ribbon menu.  As you do this you will learn the
keyboard commands that will get you there quicker.
For example, Alt p, o will bring you to your page orientation options.
It's not a long learning curve.
Blessings,
Tom

 On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:44:43 -0500 "Sharon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> If you don't use menus, what is it like? You just use keyboard 
> commands, and
> Jaws works as it always has?
> Sharon
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of First 
> CRC
> Tom Vos
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:27 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Experience with Microsoft Office 2007
> 
> 
> There's a learning curve with Office 2007, but Microsoft is 
> conscious of
> accessibility issues.
> Give yourself some time to explore and learn the system.
> Many keyboard commands from previous Office versions work in 2007 
> as
> well, but there are a few to learn.  I recommend you spend some time 
> with
> it, and make a reference file of all the commands you want to use 
> for
> quick reference.
> Blessings,
> Tom
> 
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:28:37 -0500 "Erin B. Edgar" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > Hi, all,
> > I am thinking seriously of selling my computer and buying another
> > one.  I currently have Office 2003 and am wondering  what 
> people's
> > experiences have been with JAWS and Office 2007 since, if I get a
> > new computer, it will most likely come with it.  Specifically, I 
> am
> > interested in how easy it is to work with the new ribbon system.
> > Thanks,
> > Erin
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> >
> >
> 
> 
> Pastor Tom Vos
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Experience with Microsoft Office 2007

2008-03-03 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
There's a learning curve with Office 2007, but Microsoft is conscious of
accessibility issues.
Give yourself some time to explore and learn the system.
Many keyboard commands from previous Office versions work in 2007 as
well, but there are a few to learn.  I recommend you spend some time with
it, and make a reference file of all the commands you want to use for
quick reference.
Blessings,
Tom

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:28:37 -0500 "Erin B. Edgar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Hi, all,
> I am thinking seriously of selling my computer and buying another 
> one.  I currently have Office 2003 and am wondering  what people's 
> experiences have been with JAWS and Office 2007 since, if I get a 
> new computer, it will most likely come with it.  Specifically, I am 
> interested in how easy it is to work with the new ribbon system.
> Thanks,
> Erin
> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> http://www.jaws-users.com
> Address for the list archives:
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