Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using
I'm not finding a person combo box for either Eloquence or Vocalizer. I found a page on the FS/VFO site to download the Vocalizer voices for J 18, but am not finding a sample of the voices which I think would be nice to have before downloading. http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers Am I missing something? It's been a long day. Margaret On 5/6/2018 4:14 PM, JM Casey wrote: There are many vocalizer voices, but you have to download each of them separately. You can switch to the vocalizer voice and it will tell you which "person" is being used when you tab to the "person" combo box. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: May 6, 2018 3:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using Thank you. Eloquence it is. There is also a Vocalizer voice. How can I tell which voices (persons) they are. is there more than the one Vocalizer voice? Margaret On 5/6/2018 2:57 PM, JM Casey wrote: Hi. If you have never changed anything with respect to this, you are indeed likely using Eloquence. You can check by going to the JAWS options menu (jaws key + j), and moving to "voice settings". In this dialog you will see the current voice profile you are using, but also other voice settings like pitch, which is controllable in Eloquence but not the newer vocalizer synthesizer, which uses actual voice samples. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: May 6, 2018 1:44 PM To: JAWS-Users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using Good Afternoon: I admit to not paying much attention to changes in JAWS for the last several versions. Could some kind person please tell me how I can find out which synthesizer and voice/person I am using? I'm pretty sure it is Eloquence and it is a male voice. I'm running J18 on 64 bit Windows 7 and I don't want to end up with another voice I can't understand while I fumble around. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using
Thank you. Eloquence it is. There is also a Vocalizer voice. How can I tell which voices (persons) they are. is there more than the one Vocalizer voice? Margaret On 5/6/2018 2:57 PM, JM Casey wrote: Hi. If you have never changed anything with respect to this, you are indeed likely using Eloquence. You can check by going to the JAWS options menu (jaws key + j), and moving to "voice settings". In this dialog you will see the current voice profile you are using, but also other voice settings like pitch, which is controllable in Eloquence but not the newer vocalizer synthesizer, which uses actual voice samples. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: May 6, 2018 1:44 PM To: JAWS-Users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using Good Afternoon: I admit to not paying much attention to changes in JAWS for the last several versions. Could some kind person please tell me how I can find out which synthesizer and voice/person I am using? I'm pretty sure it is Eloquence and it is a male voice. I'm running J18 on 64 bit Windows 7 and I don't want to end up with another voice I can't understand while I fumble around. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using
Thanks, it was indeed Eloquence. Margaret On 5/6/2018 2:32 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote: Press together the three keys control+JAWS key+s. JAWS will verbalize the currently running synthesizer. Make a mental note of it, then arrow up and down to see if you have others running on your system. Be sure to return focus to the original line before escaping out of the dialog, unless you mean to change synthesizers. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:44 PM To: JAWS-Users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using Good Afternoon: I admit to not paying much attention to changes in JAWS for the last several versions. Could some kind person please tell me how I can find out which synthesizer and voice/person I am using? I'm pretty sure it is Eloquence and it is a male voice. I'm running J18 on 64 bit Windows 7 and I don't want to end up with another voice I can't understand while I fumble around. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using
Good Afternoon: I admit to not paying much attention to changes in JAWS for the last several versions. Could some kind person please tell me how I can find out which synthesizer and voice/person I am using? I'm pretty sure it is Eloquence and it is a male voice. I'm running J18 on 64 bit Windows 7 and I don't want to end up with another voice I can't understand while I fumble around. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible appointment calendar
Maria and all: I've used Thunderbird for the last five or so years and have always thought the calendar part was not accessible. I haven't double-checked in ages and I'll be happy to try to learn something new. Is it one of those things that is partly accessible and not in other features? Annoyances and problems with Thunderbird have me trying out Outlook 2010, but I haven't tackled the calendar section yet. A somewhat usable Thunderbird calendar might influence my decision about whether or not to switch e-mail programs. I'm running Thunderbird 52 on 64 bit Windows 7 Home and JAWS 16-18 and also have WE 9.5.x installed. Thanks, Margaret On 6/7/2017 2:38 PM, Maria Campbell wrote: Either my Thunderbird email calendar doesn't have alarms, or I don't know how to set them. lucky1i...@gmail.com Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all. On 6/7/2017 2:34 PM, Judy Jones wrote: Just a beginning question. I use Outlook for my e-mail client and like its calendar well enough. It has alarms. Where I started having trouble was when using it at work as a shared calendar. I had the best luck with week view, and only had tried it with Jaws 17,notJudy 18. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 11:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessible appointment calendar I'm looking for an accessible appointment calendar that has an alarm system as well. I had a talking clock program and something called anytime deluxe that worked beautifully with Windows 7 but won't work with Windows 10. Thanks for any suggestions. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Scripts For JAWS & Thunderbird
Yes, it works without scripts and I've been using Thunderbird for months, but I find it clunkier than OE. For example, if memory serves, with OE there were far fewer keystrokes needed to move a message from one folder to another. The competition has an app that allowed for first letter navigation in the folder list and some other time-saving features, but they no longer work here with the last couple of releases of Thunderbird and the new version of WE. If you've been able to find text in an open Thunderbird message using JAWS, would you please share the secret? Thunderbird support page at: https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-searching?s=finding+text&as=s says: Version 8 and later As of Thunderbird version 8, the following keystrokes are assigned to search functions: • Search All Messages (Global Search): Ctrl + K • Quick Filter Bar (filter messages in current view): Ctrl + Shift + K • Search for messages in a folder (search dialog): Ctrl + Shift + F • Find text in current message: Ctrl + F • Find again in current message: Ctrl + G or F3 • Find previous in current message: Ctrl + Shift + G or Shift + F3 I can perform global searches and search within a folder, but finding text in a message is still defying me. It will go to the end of the text, but I can't get JAWS to read it with the current line or to go forward or back or do anything with it. I wrote to FS ages ago and the tech support person who answered either didn't know or said it couldn't be done. Thunderbird works better for my needs than when I tried WLM and Outlook 2010 months ago and I'm probably just missing something simple that would make it work even better for me and I welcome new tricks to be able to make peace with it. Margaret On 11/24/2013 6:39 PM, Maria Campbell wrote: I don't use any scripts and it works just fine. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 11/24/2013 5:30 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote: Good Afternoon: Does anyone know where scripts for JAWS 14 and 15 for Thunderbird can be found? I'd dearly love capability for first letter navigation in the folder list; quickly moving to the In-box from within the message list in another folder; being able to find text in an open Thunderbird message. One is supposed to be able to use Control1 to move quickly to the in-box, but the instructions on the Thunderbird support page have defied me so far. I'm currently running Thunderbird 24.1.1 on 64 bit Windows Home Premium. I looked at the web site mentioned in the following old post and found very little about anything after Windows 98 and I think the most recent mention of JAWS was for something like 3.2 and am doubtful if the script mentioned would be anywhere current enough. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret On 3/29/2012 2:07 PM, Hamid AITOUZNAG wrote: Hi Donnie and list, You can get thunderbird scripts from: http://EmpowermentZone.com/tb_scr30.zip To make sure you are using the latest update, Install them and while in thunderbird, press f11 key. The scripts will check, and if there is any update, you'll be prompted to download and install it... Hope that helps Hamid AITOUZNAG "We never value what we have until we lose it!" "Be careful how you treat people on your way up because you might meet them again on your way down!!!" Skype: hamidgeni Twitter: hamidgeni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Scripts For JAWS & Thunderbird
Good Afternoon: Does anyone know where scripts for JAWS 14 and 15 for Thunderbird can be found? I'd dearly love capability for first letter navigation in the folder list; quickly moving to the In-box from within the message list in another folder; being able to find text in an open Thunderbird message. One is supposed to be able to use Control1 to move quickly to the in-box, but the instructions on the Thunderbird support page have defied me so far. I'm currently running Thunderbird 24.1.1 on 64 bit Windows Home Premium. I looked at the web site mentioned in the following old post and found very little about anything after Windows 98 and I think the most recent mention of JAWS was for something like 3.2 and am doubtful if the script mentioned would be anywhere current enough. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret On 3/29/2012 2:07 PM, Hamid AITOUZNAG wrote: Hi Donnie and list, You can get thunderbird scripts from: http://EmpowermentZone.com/tb_scr30.zip To make sure you are using the latest update, Install them and while in thunderbird, press f11 key. The scripts will check, and if there is any update, you'll be prompted to download and install it... Hope that helps Hamid AITOUZNAG "We never value what we have until we lose it!" "Be careful how you treat people on your way up because you might meet them again on your way down!!!" Skype: hamidgeni Twitter: hamidgeni For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Removing Threats Super Anti-Spyware Finds
Bob, Thanks for the idea, but routing JAWS to PC and arrowing doesn't help. When I first tried the free version years, Super Anti-spyware was fine and I liked it so much that I got the Pro version. It was also fine for some time, but the company made changes to the program months ago and I've almost reached the point where I wish I'd never heard of the program. I thought I remembered seeing that people had said it had gotten a little more usable with JAWS and was hoping there was something I was missing. Margaret On 2/27/2013 2:36 PM, REGilman wrote: Hi Margaret, Have you tried rooting Jaws to PC cursor, with the Jaws key and the minus on the num pad? And then using the arrow keys to go through the results. HTH, Bob -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:54 PM To: ju Subject: [JAWS-Users] Removing Threats Super Anti-Spyware Finds Good Afternoon: I've never been able to determine what threats the Pro (paid) version of Super anti-Spyware version 5.6.1014 finds except for looking at the scan log and checking them to send them to quarantine has also defied me for years. Has anyone been able to deal with found threats using JAWS on 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium? JAWS 11 to 14 are installed here along with IE 9. A full Microsoft Security Essentials and free version of Malware Bytes scan came up clean, but a quick SAS scan claims to have found 2 critical ones. If possible, I'd like to find out how to deal with SAS without requiring sighted assistance or a remote from my tech at least until the company changes the program again. Any help would be extremely appreciated. Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Removing Threats Super Anti-Spyware Finds
Good Afternoon: I've never been able to determine what threats the Pro (paid) version of Super anti-Spyware version 5.6.1014 finds except for looking at the scan log and checking them to send them to quarantine has also defied me for years. Has anyone been able to deal with found threats using JAWS on 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium? JAWS 11 to 14 are installed here along with IE 9. A full Microsoft Security Essentials and free version of Malware Bytes scan came up clean, but a quick SAS scan claims to have found 2 critical ones. If possible, I'd like to find out how to deal with SAS without requiring sighted assistance or a remote from my tech at least until the company changes the program again. Any help would be extremely appreciated. Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Version of JAWS 14 to Download?
Siobhan, Thank you. I upgraded to IE 9 before reading all the information about JAWS 14 and downloaded a book to be sure I knew how since I thought I remembered that downloading was a bit different in IE 9 and everything went well. By the time I finished reading all the information about the new JAWS, I must have tired out my brain since my original thought was that the 64 bit version of JAWS 14 was for a 64 bit machine and I hit enter. Nothing happened and I tried the 32 bit one. Once again nothing happened and the page didn't change. I routed JAWS to virtual PC and was still on the same page. Finally, the light dawned and I remembered that it was IE 9 and I figured that, since all my synapses were not in good working order, that double checking which version I wanted might be a good idea. Smile. I got J14 installed and will take a break before trying to get everything to my liking. Thanks again, Margaret On 1/1/2013 5:55 PM, Siobhan wrote: Hi Margret. If you have a 64 bit machine, that's what you need to download. I don't know if anything will happen if you did the other version, but that's the one you want. Enjoy the new stuff. I haven't upgraded yet. Happy new year to you and all, Siobhan On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote: Good Afternoon: It's been so long since I downloaded a new version of JAWS that I'm having a brain freeze. I have JAWS 11 to 13 on this 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine. Is JAWS 14.0.1037 32-bit – December 2012 English (117 MB) or JAWS 14.0.1037 64-bit – December 2012 English (123 MB) the one I want? http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/jaws-downloads.asp I'm thinking that the 32 bit version is for JAWS Standard and the 64 bit is for JAWS Pro. Is this correct? Thanks, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Which Version of JAWS 14 to Download?
Good Afternoon: It's been so long since I downloaded a new version of JAWS that I'm having a brain freeze. I have JAWS 11 to 13 on this 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine. Is JAWS 14.0.1037 32-bit – December 2012 English (117 MB) or JAWS 14.0.1037 64-bit – December 2012 English (123 MB) the one I want? http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/jaws-downloads.asp I'm thinking that the 32 bit version is for JAWS Standard and the 64 bit is for JAWS Pro. Is this correct? Thanks, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Format/Navigation Problems in Word 2007 Documents
Good Afternoon, I have at least three Word 2007 .doc document that seem to have developed the same kind of problem. There is at least one place in all three document where JAWS 13.0.1006 will say page 49 or whatever on one line and page 51 when I arrow down. If I do a Control F for find for text in the "skipped" page, Word finds it. One particular pesky document is about three pages in which I make note of appointments and other events. There is a place in the document where JAWS won't down arrow down past when I'm arrowing down from the top and won't arrow up past when I go from the very bottom to the top. Page up and Page Down won't go past the problem area either. JAWS won't say anything either way after/the problem area and moving from top to bottom is like there is nothing more in the document. Control Home and Control End work to take me to the top and bottom of the document and read to end reads the entire document. All the problem documents began life on my XP machine before my tech transferred them to the Win 7 when I got it. The layout on all three seems to be print at 75%. The documents are maximized and I've rebooted several times since I noticed the problems. It dawned on me that I might have somehow started a second column at the problem point, but I don't know how to verify it and sighted assistance isn't available to look at the documents. The 2007 ribbons are there, but I'm willing to switch to the JAWS virtual ribbons. I'm running 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium. I got a suggestion "Try copying the document into NotePad and then copy the NotePad document back to Word" but it didn't fix the problem in the appointments document. I copied the document in notepad and had word wrap checked and saved it under another name as a .txt file. I copied it and pasted it in a new Word document. When I arrow down, I hear page 1 and page 3 on the next line. I repeated the process and tried it with line wrap not checked and saved it with a different name as a .txt file. It is again saying page 1 and page 3 at the next line at the problem spot. It goes from events in May straight to November ones and arrowing down there's no mention of any of the months in between. However, if I do a Control F for find Labor Day, Word finds it. Any help getting these straightened out will be greatly appreciated. Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature
Thanks for what would be a great idea, but it is from my attorney and is private, so I don't want to send it to a service or for anyone to open for me. I do have Open Book 9, but my efforts to open it with OB haven't worked. I don't know if I have messed up my file associations or something, but I get the following error message: File C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom Scientific\OpenBook\9.0\Users\default\Library\(the name of the file).pdf does not exist. The file is definitely in documents under libraries. I launch OB. Press alt-F/ Press enter on open. Paste in the name of the file . Tab over to the combo box for look in. Get to libraries and press enter on open. I can't get it to go below libraries. I've spent hours on this and am getting very frustrated. I'm still not good with Win 7 and only use Open Book when I have a .pdf file to deal with. Could someone give the instructions to get Open Book to open the .pdf? Any help would be very appreciated. Margaret On 2/6/2012 11:20 AM, Dean Martineau wrote: I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org. You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment. You can put codes in the subject line to specify a different return file format. Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and specify the desired file format in the form. Dean Follow me on Twitter: deantopdot To find out about the week's news in adaptive technology, subscribe to Top Tech Tidbits for Thursday by sending a blank message to -j...@topdotenterprises.com. (make sure you have 4 t's in the Address -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM To: ju Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature Hi, All: Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it and it was processed. I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR feature for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it. Adobe said it is a two page document. I pressed Control plus 1 as instructed by the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading about the first lines. Could some kind person please tell me how I can get to hear the whole document? I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature
Hi, All: Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it and it was processed. I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR feature for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it. Adobe said it is a two page document. I pressed Control plus 1 as instructed by the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading about the first lines. Could some kind person please tell me how I can get to hear the whole document? I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Test Driving Thunderbird Using JAWS 12
Donnie, Gene Asner did a presentation on Thunderbird for Accessible World a couple years ago. One part is devoted to the older Windows Live Mail and the other part is on Thunderbird. Some of both parts is outdated, but I'm also giving Thunderbird a try and I found the presentation helpful. Go to: http://www.accessibleworld.org/search/node/thunderbird and look for the link Tek Talk Presents Gene Asner. There might be a presentation by someone else there as well. I may have seen mention of one in an old post from somewhere. I'll try to look. There were also some other presentations I know about that I found helpful. Raul A. Gallegos did two for Main Menu. He uses Window-Eyes, but JAWS users can still get a good deal from the podcasts since he gives keystrokes and information Gene doesn't. The last one I found helpful and is the most recent is one GW Micro did in October of 2011. JAWS users can also get additional information from it. I'm having computer trouble and will have to look up the URLs when the 'puter is behaving better, but maybe you can find them in the mean time. There's a list for blind Thunderbird and Firefox users. Send a blank message to: blind-mozilla-subscr...@yahoogroups.com I'd also be interested in how to tell Thunderbird to check for mail on a set schedule. Hope this helps, Margaret On 2/3/2012 10:50 PM, Donnie Parrett wrote: I am taking Thunderbird for a test drive. I am using a Windows 7 64 bit machine with JAWS 12. I am needing some audio tutorials for Thunderbird used with JAWS. Are there any available? Also, is there a list or group that I can join to learn more about Thunderbird? Thanks, Donnie For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
I heard back and was referred to www.nextup.com I found the voice I want, but am confused. Does one have to purchase Text Aloud in addition to the A T&T Natural Voice just to get the voice? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T & T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "John Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > Hi Margaret, > It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from > Freedom Scientific, itself. > There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. > Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or > 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. > There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety > of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have > that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. > > > JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE > WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY > PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret > Thomas > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM > To: ju > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > Hi All, > > I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with > Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope > there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer > the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and > ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t > compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are > possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work > better for me. > > Thank you, > > Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T & T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "John Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > Hi Margaret, > It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from > Freedom Scientific, itself. > There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. > Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or > 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. > There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety > of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have > that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. > > > JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE > WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY > PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret > Thomas > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM > To: ju > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > Hi All, > > I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with > Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope > there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer > the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and > ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t > compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are > possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work > better for me. > > Thank you, > > Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
Hi All, I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work better for me. Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Activating JAWS 13
Hi All, For now, JAWS 13 is activated. I lost speech on the Windows 7 machine and wasn’t able to get it back. I booted up and was greeted with no speech. At some point, something clicked in my brain and I remembered that maybe I had to tell J13 not to start automatically and got 12 loaded and then 13. J13 almost immediately gave me the message to the effect of your FS product is authorized for a previous version. If you have purchased an update to this version, activate now. I followed the steps and the activation was successful. I haven’t the foggiest notion why the activation succeeded this time. I hope it sticks. Thanks to everyone who helped and I hope everyone gets their activation issues sorted out. Margaret From: Margaret Thomas Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Activating JAWS 13 I downloaded the 64 bit. Margaret From: Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Activating JAWS 13 Did you download the 32-bit or the 64-bit? - Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" To: "ju" Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:42 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Activating JAWS 13 > Hi All, > > I got JAWS 13 installed on the Win 7 machine, but only in 40 minute > mode. I downloaded it from the FS site and, when I inserted the > authorization disk, was greeted with an auto play dialogue that I’ve > never seen before and I don’t know if my inability to use it properly > had anything to do with the activation error I received later on in > the process. I think it said the number was invalid. How is the > thing supposed to be dealt with? Other than uninstalling and starting > over with the J13 CD/DVD, how do I try again? Will J13 run on XP > Home? At least maybe I can find out if the authorization disk is the > problem. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Margaret > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Activating JAWS 13
I downloaded the 64 bit. Margaret From: Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Activating JAWS 13 Did you download the 32-bit or the 64-bit? - Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" To: "ju" Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:42 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Activating JAWS 13 > Hi All, > > I got JAWS 13 installed on the Win 7 machine, but only in 40 minute > mode. I downloaded it from the FS site and, when I inserted the > authorization disk, was greeted with an auto play dialogue that I’ve > never seen before and I don’t know if my inability to use it properly > had anything to do with the activation error I received later on in > the process. I think it said the number was invalid. How is the > thing supposed to be dealt with? Other than uninstalling and starting > over with the J13 CD/DVD, how do I try again? Will J13 run on XP > Home? At least maybe I can find out if the authorization disk is the > problem. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Margaret > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Problem Activating JAWS 13
Hi All, I got JAWS 13 installed on the Win 7 machine, but only in 40 minute mode. I downloaded it from the FS site and, when I inserted the authorization disk, was greeted with an auto play dialogue that I’ve never seen before and I don’t know if my inability to use it properly had anything to do with the activation error I received later on in the process. I think it said the number was invalid. How is the thing supposed to be dealt with? Other than uninstalling and starting over with the J13 CD/DVD, how do I try again? Will J13 run on XP Home? At least maybe I can find out if the authorization disk is the problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating to JAWS 13
Hi Mike, Thank you. I think I’ll give JAWS 13 a try. Is Dr. Phil’s couch comfortable? I’ll need a lot of time on it! It seems like on a good day I’m taking one step forward and only one backward instead of two or three. I’ll get there. Rome wasn’t built in a day and all that. Margaret From: Mike & Barbara Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating to JAWS 13 Hi Margaret, I for 1, find that Jaws13 is much better & only loses focus occasionally! The rubber room , well I have Doctor Phil's private number, & maybe together we can get better group discounts! LOL LOL Oh, I'm running Windows7 Home Premium, the 32 bit version but, I don't think that will make any difference. Take care. Mike - Original Message ----- From: Margaret Thomas To: ju Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:18 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updating to JAWS 13 Hi All, I’m losing focus in JAWS 12 on my 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium computer what seems like multiple times an hour and am about ready for a stay in the rubber room. I’m hoping that JAWS 13 might be better behaved. I got my disk for 13 the other day and understand that a sneak preview of the update to 13 is available before the official launch tomorrow. I’m mainly working with Windows Live Mail 2011 at the moment and don’t remember seeing any fixes in tomorrow’s update for WLM and thought I’d go ahead and update today. Is J13 any better behaved as far as loss of focus is and does the new update help any with the focus issue? Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Updating to JAWS 13
Hi All, I’m losing focus in JAWS 12 on my 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium computer what seems like multiple times an hour and am about ready for a stay in the rubber room. I’m hoping that JAWS 13 might be better behaved. I got my disk for 13 the other day and understand that a sneak preview of the update to 13 is available before the official launch tomorrow. I’m mainly working with Windows Live Mail 2011 at the moment and don’t remember seeing any fixes in tomorrow’s update for WLM and thought I’d go ahead and update today. Is J13 any better behaved as far as loss of focus is and does the new update help any with the focus issue? Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange Items Appearing in Windows 7System Tray/Notification Area
Brian and All, Thank you for the clear instructions. I got Microsoft Security Essentials in the notification area/sys tray on the Windows 7 machine. I don't have Carbonite on my desktop and I wasn't able to find it using the search box. I have a feeling that, for some reason, it didn't get installed on the new machine and I'll have to look into it. I think all the important stuff is now accounted for or soon will be. A big thanks to everyone who helped me get the notification area sorted out. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Brian Lee" To: Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange Items Appearing in Windows 7System Tray/Notification Area Hi Margaret, Press the Windows key and type the word Notification in the search box. Use down arrow to the result that says "Show or hide the notification icons on the taskbar and press enter key. Use tab key across the controls. You will find combo boxes for choosing between three actions that can be used for various programs. The "Microsoft Security Client User Interface" item is the item that will let you choose whether or not the Microsoft Security Essentials program shows an icon in the notification area. Each combo box has three choices: 1. Show icon in notifications, 2. Hide icon in notifications, 3. Only show notifications. Use up and down arrow keys in the combo boxes to make the choice you want. Tab to the OK button and use it to save your changes and exit. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange Items Appearing in Windows 7 System Tray/Notification Area Hello, I took a break from Windows 7 and decided to tackle my very skimpy notification area today. I got JAWS in there using some instructions from Rick Justice: Open the start menu, and type the following in the search box: notification In the results, you should find, notification area icons, make sure that this is selected, and press enter. When the dialogue opens, you will probably hear Jaws say, okay button, so just tab until you get into the list of applications. Each time you tab, you will be on a different application,and using the up and down arrows will select the behavior of that icon. When you have finished making your changes, simply tab to the okay button, and press enter to close the dialogue. but programs like Carbonite, Microsoft Security Essentials, etc. aren't listed when I tab. There's something about Microsoft Security Center, but I didn't want to fool with it since I wasn't sure what it was. Is it possible that they might show up in the notification area if I do the show all icons thing? My tech installed the programs on the Win 7 and it's possible he might not have chosen the show in sys tray item. I called him right as he was about to walk out the door for the weekend, so he didn't have a lot of time to spend, but he thought there were more items showing than there are. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Margaret - Original Message - From: "David" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange Items Appearing in Windows 7System Tray/Notification Area Hello there; Here's a link which may help to explain, The entrie in your system tray, solve pc issues. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-use-the-windows-7-action-center .html as for programs not showing in your system tray, you will need to go into, taskbar and start menu properties and make the necessary changes. If you need more help, just shout. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:35 AM To: jaws-users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange Items Appearing in Windows 7 System Tray/Notification Area Hi All, The system tray/notification area on my 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine contains items that are totally different from those in the sys tray on my XP Home computer and items that should be there like JAWS, Microsoft Security Essentials, Carbonite, etc. are not showing. Select a System Tray Icon graphic 798 Solve PC issues: 2 messages Right Single ClickFully charged (100%) Network 2 Internet access Speakers: 100% Left Single Click Left Double Click is what's there now. There was a thread here last week where someone said that JAWS was not showing in their sys tray and the responses, which I saved, seemed to indicate that each item needs to have its behavior customized individually. I'm not sure if my problem would be solved the same way and wanted to ask here before I did an
Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange Items Appearing in Windows 7 System Tray/Notification Area
Hello, I took a break from Windows 7 and decided to tackle my very skimpy notification area today. I got JAWS in there using some instructions from Rick Justice: Open the start menu, and type the following in the search box: notification In the results, you should find, notification area icons, make sure that this is selected, and press enter. When the dialogue opens, you will probably hear Jaws say, okay button, so just tab until you get into the list of applications. Each time you tab, you will be on a different application,and using the up and down arrows will select the behavior of that icon. When you have finished making your changes, simply tab to the okay button, and press enter to close the dialogue. but programs like Carbonite, Microsoft Security Essentials, etc. aren't listed when I tab. There's something about Microsoft Security Center, but I didn't want to fool with it since I wasn't sure what it was. Is it possible that they might show up in the notification area if I do the show all icons thing? My tech installed the programs on the Win 7 and it's possible he might not have chosen the show in sys tray item. I called him right as he was about to walk out the door for the weekend, so he didn't have a lot of time to spend, but he thought there were more items showing than there are. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Margaret - Original Message - From: "David" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange Items Appearing in Windows 7System Tray/Notification Area Hello there; Here's a link which may help to explain, The entrie in your system tray, solve pc issues. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-use-the-windows-7-action-center .html as for programs not showing in your system tray, you will need to go into, taskbar and start menu properties and make the necessary changes. If you need more help, just shout. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:35 AM To: jaws-users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange Items Appearing in Windows 7 System Tray/Notification Area Hi All, The system tray/notification area on my 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine contains items that are totally different from those in the sys tray on my XP Home computer and items that should be there like JAWS, Microsoft Security Essentials, Carbonite, etc. are not showing. Select a System Tray Icon graphic 798 Solve PC issues: 2 messages Right Single ClickFully charged (100%) Network 2 Internet access Speakers: 100% Left Single Click Left Double Click is what's there now. There was a thread here last week where someone said that JAWS was not showing in their sys tray and the responses, which I saved, seemed to indicate that each item needs to have its behavior customized individually. I'm not sure if my problem would be solved the same way and wanted to ask here before I did anything. Does anyone know what in the world the "Solve PC issues: 2 messages" comes from? All I can think of is that MSN was the home page when my tech delivered the computer. Installing programs an d set up is part of their paid service with the purchase of new machines and maybe they posted to some tech forum to solve some issue with my machine. I'm running JAWS 12 on the Win 7. I greatly appreciate everyone's patience with all my questions! Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] OE's Advanced Find in Windows Live Mail 2011
David, Thank you very much for your instructions. However, I'm still not able to get it to work the way it is supposed to. I'm getting no results when I know there are some since there are messages in the message list view for the date ranges I've tried. I tried doing it in another folder just in case there was something odd going on with the In-Box and didn't have any luck there either. I tried seeing if having the window maximized might help, but it said not available , so it was already maximized. I've tried it with alt-c which used to work in OE to get right to the date section after pressing Control-Shift-F and tabbing through until I got to it and neither way made any difference. The frustrating thing is that alt-h for attachment has a proper check box here. I don't know if maybe labeling graphics might help? Thank you, Margaret - Original Message - From: "David Bailes" To: Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OE's Advanced Find in Windows Live Mail 2011 Hi Margaret, For both received before and after: 1. By default the check box is unchecked. 2. Spacebar toggles the state of the check box, but Jaws does not read it's state. 3. You can tell whether it's checked by pressing left arrow or right arrow: if unchecked, then nothing happens; if checked then you cycle round the three fields of the date and the checkbox. 4. With one of the date fields being the focus, you can change it either by typing in a new number, or by using up arrow or down arrow, though when using the arrow keys Jaws doesn't read the changed number. However you can read the whole date by pressing insert + up arrow. best wishes, David. original message: Hi All, I use Advanced Find (Control-Shift-F in the message list view in Outlook Express a bunch of times every day and I was very much hoping I could use the same feature, or something like it in Windows Live Mail 2011 on my Windows 7 computer. Some of the items that can be found that I've tried so far to find seem to be working the same and properly except the part for dates. JAWS 12 does not seem to be indicating check boxes for the dates so they can be checked to be able to work with the dates to find the range. In Outlook Express the sequence is: 1. Start from the message list view in OE. 2. Press Control-Shift-F. JAWS says Look in and you can find items in a particular folder or in local folders so all folders are searched. I happened to be in the JAWS users folder when I started my date search and, just for example, I want to search for all posts in my jaws users folder received today. 3. Press alt c to start the date search. JAWS says received after and something that sounds like day time ticker. October 21 twenty eleven check box not checked 4. Press space bar to check the check box. JAWS says checked. 5. Tab one time. JAWS says received before day time ticker October 21 twenty eleven check box not checked. 6. Press space bar to check the check box. JAWS says checked. 7. Press enter. JAWS says list view and the messages are listed. The dates can be navigated so you can check for different ranges such as from the beginning of the year to the present date and combined with sender, subject, if there's an attachment etc. It's working properly with JAWS 10 and 12 on the XP Home, but JAWS 12 doesn't seem to be indicating the check boxes on the 64 bit Win 7 Home Premium machine. I don't know if they need to be labeled and, if so, which graphics should be labeled. I'd love to get my old friend working on the new machine or learning of another way of accomplishing the same thing if it can't. Any help some kind soul can offer would be absolutely wonderful! Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws
David, I gather you are replying to my question about the equivalent of Advanced Find in Windows Live Mail 2011. So far, I'm not getting your instructions to work. JAWS is not saying the status as checked with Control right arrow and is only saying the date or part of the date. I've been able to change the dates, but the results are not accurate, so I think the items really aren't checked. I did a search in my In-Box for messages received from October 20, 2011 to October 22, 2011 and I knew there were some, but 0 items were found. I played with the dates some and was able to come up with something of switching to JAWS cursor and left clicking on the graphic to the left of received after, switching back to PC, tabbing once, switching to JAWS cursor and left clicking on the graphic just to the left of received before, switching back to PC, and hitting enter. Six messages for my October 20, 2011 to October 22, 2011 search turned up which should have been about right. I'll work more on it later since I need a break and could be missing something with your instructions. Margaret - Original Message - From: "David" To: Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws Hello there; Although jaws doesn't say check or unchecked for the following; In windows live mail; After pressing ctrl+shift+f, Now tab for example until you hear; Received before: 10/22/2011 By default the box is unchecked, So, if you press the spacebar, the box then becomes checked, If you then press ctrl+right arrow jaws will read the status as checked. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:29 PM To: jaws-users Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws Hello, How are you managing with 60 folders and getting to the ones at the end of the list? I am coming to Windows Live Mail 2011 from Outlook Express and I thought WLM 2011 didn't have first letter navigation in the folders list or for manually moving messages to different folders. Am I missing something here? I had 40 folders in OE and am trying to pare the number down for my OE messages to go into WLM 2011. For example, I have an OE folder for posts on Windows 7 saved along with a couple of other folders wh ose names begin with "W" and moving messages to a "W" folder with first letter navigation is pretty painless. I'm dreading the thought of all those down arrow presses to get to a "W" folder in WLM2011 and have been trying to think how I can consolidate my existing 34 folders into something like a half dozen in addition to the default ones Microsoft gives such as In-box. I've been happily working with all my OE folders for years and I'm not relishing the thought of having to remember a new slimmed down fol der list! Thank you, Margaret - Original Message - From: "Hans Pauli Sundstein" To: Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws Hi. I have used Windows Live Mail 2011 for long time, and with Jaws 12 and 13 beta, it work's fine. I have created rules for several thing's, and i have post, sorted into at least 60 folders. I have also 4 e-mail adress's with rules for sorting post from the different inbox's to specified subfolders, and all works fine. Jaws support's all the structure in the program's interface, but it takes time to learn and be patient with the new interface, because it is using the band structure, just as the newest version's of Microsoft Office. But finding out how to create the subfolder's and how to create the rules, will take time, because there is nothing to compare with the previous interface. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: john R. Vaughn Dato: 21. oktober 2011 02:31 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws Jim, thank you. And are you talking about the Windows Live Mail 2011? Certainly this version is easier to find for download. Has Freedom scientific written any scripts for it? Can you create messege rule to help deal with large volumns of special interest mail like this Jaws users list? thank you for any additional thoughts. I know Outlook 2010 will also work but that will cost me an additional $80 or so to purchase. John John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws Hi John: the latest windows live mail works very well with Jaws. Jim... For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www
[JAWS-Users] OE's Advanced Find in Windows Live Mail 2011
Hi All, I use Advanced Find (Control-Shift-F in the message list view in Outlook Express a bunch of times every day and I was very much hoping I could use the same feature, or something like it in Windows Live Mail 2011 on my Windows 7 computer. Some of the items that can be found that I've tried so far to find seem to be working the same and properly except the part for dates. JAWS 12 does not seem to be indicating check boxes for the dates so they can be checked to be able to work with the dates to find the range. In Outlook Express the sequence is: 1. Start from the message list view in OE. 2. Press Control-Shift-F. JAWS says Look in and you can find items in a particular folder or in local folders so all folders are searched. I happened to be in the JAWS users folder when I started my date search and, just for example, I want to search for all posts in my jaws users folder received today. 3. Press alt c to start the date search. JAWS says received after and something that sounds like day time ticker. October 21 twenty eleven check box not checked 4. Press space bar to check the check box. JAWS says checked. 5. Tab one time. JAWS says received before day time ticker October 21 twenty eleven check box not checked. 6. Press space bar to check the check box. JAWS says checked. 7. Press enter. JAWS says list view and the messages are listed. The dates can be navigated so you can check for different ranges such as from the beginning of the year to the present date and combined with sender, subject, if there's an attachment etc. It's working properly with JAWS 10 and 12 on the XP Home, but JAWS 12 doesn't seem to be indicating the check boxes on the 64 bit Win 7 Home Premium machine. I don't know if they need to be labeled and, if so, which graphics should be labeled. I'd love to get my old friend working on the new machine or learning of another way of accomplishing the same thing if it can't. Any help some kind soul can offer would be absolutely wonderful! Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws
Hello, How are you managing with 60 folders and getting to the ones at the end of the list? I am coming to Windows Live Mail 2011 from Outlook Express and I thought WLM 2011 didn't have first letter navigation in the folders list or for manually moving messages to different folders. Am I missing something here? I had 40 folders in OE and am trying to pare the number down for my OE messages to go into WLM 2011. For example, I have an OE folder for posts on Windows 7 saved along with a couple of other folders whose names begin with "W" and moving messages to a "W" folder with first letter navigation is pretty painless. I'm dreading the thought of all those down arrow presses to get to a "W" folder in WLM2011 and have been trying to think how I can consolidate my existing 34 folders into something like a half dozen in addition to the default ones Microsoft gives such as In-box. I've been happily working with all my OE folders for years and I'm not relishing the thought of having to remember a new slimmed down folder list! Thank you, Margaret - Original Message - From: "Hans Pauli Sundstein" To: Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws Hi. I have used Windows Live Mail 2011 for long time, and with Jaws 12 and 13 beta, it work's fine. I have created rules for several thing's, and i have post, sorted into at least 60 folders. I have also 4 e-mail adress's with rules for sorting post from the different inbox's to specified subfolders, and all works fine. Jaws support's all the structure in the program's interface, but it takes time to learn and be patient with the new interface, because it is using the band structure, just as the newest version's of Microsoft Office. But finding out how to create the subfolder's and how to create the rules, will take time, because there is nothing to compare with the previous interface. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: john R. Vaughn Dato: 21. oktober 2011 02:31 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws Jim, thank you. And are you talking about the Windows Live Mail 2011? Certainly this version is easier to find for download. Has Freedom scientific written any scripts for it? Can you create messege rule to help deal with large volumns of special interest mail like this Jaws users list? thank you for any additional thoughts. I know Outlook 2010 will also work but that will cost me an additional $80 or so to purchase. John John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] re-windows live mail and jaws Hi John: the latest windows live mail works very well with Jaws. Jim... For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Strange Items Appearing in Windows 7 System Tray/Notification Area
Hi All, The system tray/notification area on my 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine contains items that are totally different from those in the sys tray on my XP Home computer and items that should be there like JAWS, Microsoft Security Essentials, Carbonite, etc. are not showing. Select a System Tray Icon graphic 798 Solve PC issues: 2 messages Right Single ClickFully charged (100%) Network 2 Internet access Speakers: 100% Left Single Click Left Double Click is what's there now. There was a thread here last week where someone said that JAWS was not showing in their sys tray and the responses, which I saved, seemed to indicate that each item needs to have its behavior customized individually. I'm not sure if my problem would be solved the same way and wanted to ask here before I did anything. Does anyone know what in the world the "Solve PC issues: 2 messages" comes from? All I can think of is that MSN was the home page when my tech delivered the computer. Installing programs and set up is part of their paid service with the purchase of new machines and maybe they posted to some tech forum to solve some issue with my machine. I'm running JAWS 12 on the Win 7. I greatly appreciate everyone's patience with all my questions! Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12Re:Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings
Mike and All, I tried the steps again and it worked as expected. It was set on advanced, so my efforts of the previous night must have worked. I don't know why JAWS was still speaking all the excess verbiage that goes with beginner level after I had changed verbosity level and rebooted, but will chalk it up to just one of those things that makes life with computers interesting. I did find the What's New in JAWS 12 .mp3 and the one for the Settings Center and got the former downloaded to the Win 7, but couldn't get it transferred to my player. The other one was a total bust and I couldn't even get it downloaded. IE 8 is on the Win 7, so the procedure should be the same. I'll work on it more today. Thanks again to you and David. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12Re:Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi margaret, When I right arrow to open speech verboscity & arrow down 1 time I get, verboscity level, beginner highest. This is where you press the spacebar until you hear advanced then, tab to apply, tab to okay & press enter / spacebar. But, if you arrow down 2 times you get, configure verboscity levels, & if you right arrow to open this, you will hear beginner.! I did notice that applying the changes was necessary before okaying them to make the changes hold. Let us know if you have any more problems or if you were able to make your changes. Take care. Mike ----- Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12 Re:Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Mike, All went well with your instructions to change verbosity to Advanced in JAWS 12 until step 4: "4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verbosity level beginner highest." JAWS Just says beginner. Pressing space once results in Application Start Message checked one of 21 or some number like that instead of the expected something about intermediate with a second press saying advanced. I did see a button to restore defaults, but didn't choose it. When I didn't get the expected results, I decided to see if JAWS 12 was still saying dot dot dot after basic etc. and it just said basic. Maybe the JAWS fairies went to work overnight. I know I rebooted last night before I sent my post. With 12, how can I check the verbosity level? I think I saw something in the training section on working with the new setting center and it might be worth a listen. I'll take a look for it and the other 12 training materials after lunch and some caffeine. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Margaret, To set Jaws to the Advanced option do the following; 1. Press Insert + 6 on the numbrer row above the main keyboard, to open the Settings Center then, press control, shift, + D, to open the default settings center for all applications. 2. Arrow down to Speech Verboscity & press right arrow to open. 3. Arrow down to configure verboscity levels & press right arrow to open. 4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verboscity level beginner highest. Press the spacebar 2 times or, until you hear Jaws read, advanced, lowest. 5. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, & press enter / spacebar to save the changes & close the Settings Center. To set your punctuation for some, do the following; 1. If you run Jaws from the system tray, press insert / Jaws key + J, for the context menu 2.A. Press the letter H, for Help, then press the letterZ, for the start-up wizard, tab to the punctuation option, & you will be in a combobox so arrow up to some, . Now, tab through the start-up wizard making any other changes if necessary,press the spacebar each time you get to a next button until you get to the finish button, & pressing the spacebar on finish to save any changes & close the start-up wizard. B. If you don't run Jaws from the system tray, Alt + tab, until you land on the Jaws window. Press the Alt key & Jaws should read options. Now, right arrow to help, uparrow to start-up wizard, & press enter. Now follow the rest of steps in step 2.A. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List NamesinWLM2011Headings Hi All, I tr
[JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12 Re: Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings
Hi Mike, All went well with your instructions to change verbosity to Advanced in JAWS 12 until step 4: "4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verbosity level beginner highest." JAWS Just says beginner. Pressing space once results in Application Start Message checked one of 21 or some number like that instead of the expected something about intermediate with a second press saying advanced. I did see a button to restore defaults, but didn't choose it. When I didn't get the expected results, I decided to see if JAWS 12 was still saying dot dot dot after basic etc. and it just said basic. Maybe the JAWS fairies went to work overnight. I know I rebooted last night before I sent my post. With 12, how can I check the verbosity level? I think I saw something in the training section on working with the new setting center and it might be worth a listen. I'll take a look for it and the other 12 training materials after lunch and some caffeine. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Margaret, To set Jaws to the Advanced option do the following; 1. Press Insert + 6 on the numbrer row above the main keyboard, to open the Settings Center then, press control, shift, + D, to open the default settings center for all applications. 2. Arrow down to Speech Verboscity & press right arrow to open. 3. Arrow down to configure verboscity levels & press right arrow to open. 4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verboscity level beginner highest. Press the spacebar 2 times or, until you hear Jaws read, advanced, lowest. 5. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, & press enter / spacebar to save the changes & close the Settings Center. To set your punctuation for some, do the following; 1. If you run Jaws from the system tray, press insert / Jaws key + J, for the context menu 2.A. Press the letter H, for Help, then press the letterZ, for the start-up wizard, tab to the punctuation option, & you will be in a combobox so arrow up to some, . Now, tab through the start-up wizard making any other changes if necessary,press the spacebar each time you get to a next button until you get to the finish button, & pressing the spacebar on finish to save any changes & close the start-up wizard. B. If you don't run Jaws from the system tray, Alt + tab, until you land on the Jaws window. Press the Alt key & Jaws should read options. Now, right arrow to help, uparrow to start-up wizard, & press enter. Now follow the rest of steps in step 2.A. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List NamesinWLM2011Headings Hi All, I tried making changes in voices again and may have finally gotten it. JAWS seems to also no longer be saying colon after fwd and parentheses before and after another list that uses parentheses instead of brackets in the subject field which I also wanted to accomplish. I apparently wasn't successful in getting JAWS 12 changed to Advanced since it is saying dot dot dot after Basics etc., but any progress is good. Thanks to everyone who is helping me tame the new beast. Margaret Earlier, I wrote: John and All, When I started trying to get JAWS 12 not to say left bracket etc. Insert -V from the message list view had most for punctuation. Changing it to none or some gets it to work temporarily, but I haven't been able to find the proper item in the Settings Center yet to make it permanent. Changing the setting in voice in options with Insert-J that I understood to be another list member's suggestion didn't seemed to have worked, but I might have messed up. I'm pretty sure while I was looking in the Settings Center that I was able to change verbosity to Advanced, which was one of the things I wanted to do. I'm going to take a break. Any more instructions for making the change permanent would be great. Margaret - Original Message - From: "john R. Vaughn" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM2011Headings Margaret, let me try and help. In jaws 12 and 13 you will need to use the new configuration facility. 1. While in your "in box", hold down the insert key and press the letter "v" as in victor. 2. you are in the quick settings tree view. down arrow through the various controls and when you get to a control you think you need to change, tab once to read the jaws help. Usually, if you want to change an item, you enter on it to check or unch
[JAWS-Users] Label Graphics in windows live mail
Hi All, An old post helped me label graphics in the headings in the message list view in Windows Live Mail 2011 using JAWS 12 on my 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine and I wanted to say thanks again to everyone who has helped to make the transition easier and to re-post the instructions in case they help someone else. Margaret - Original Message - From: "David Bailes" To: Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail question Hi, If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default. Hopefully, this will be fixed soon in an update to jaws 12. However, you can label these manually yourself, as follows: 1. Open windows live mail. 2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily change this setting so that it reads them, so that you can find them and label them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog; press G until you get to the item Graphics - labeled; press spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics - all, and then press enter to press the default close button. 3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur before the senders name. The graphic to label as unread is graphic 656. Other unlabeled graphics include graphic 160 which indicates attachment, and if you use the conversation view, then graphics 563 and 105 indicate collapsed and expanded respectively. Note that graphic 294 indictates a read message, and you'll probably want to leave this graphic unlabeled. 4. To label a graphic, for example graphic 656 as unread: move to a message in the list which is unread, that is jaws says graphic 656 when reading it; press insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left arrow till you get to graphic 656; press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog; the initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic 656 selected; type unread, and the press enter to press the default ok button. 5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to label. 6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics. David. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names inWLM2011Headings
Hi All, I tried making changes in voices again and may have finally gotten it. JAWS seems to also no longer be saying colon after fwd and parentheses before and after another list that uses parentheses instead of brackets in the subject field which I also wanted to accomplish. I apparently wasn't successful in getting JAWS 12 changed to Advanced since it is saying dot dot dot after Basics etc., but any progress is good. Thanks to everyone who is helping me tame the new beast. Margaret Earlier, I wrote: John and All, When I started trying to get JAWS 12 not to say left bracket etc. Insert -V from the message list view had most for punctuation. Changing it to none or some gets it to work temporarily, but I haven't been able to find the proper item in the Settings Center yet to make it permanent. Changing the setting in voice in options with Insert-J that I understood to be another list member's suggestion didn't seemed to have worked, but I might have messed up. I'm pretty sure while I was looking in the Settings Center that I was able to change verbosity to Advanced, which was one of the things I wanted to do. I'm going to take a break. Any more instructions for making the change permanent would be great. Margaret - Original Message - From: "john R. Vaughn" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM2011Headings Margaret, let me try and help. In jaws 12 and 13 you will need to use the new configuration facility. 1. While in your "in box", hold down the insert key and press the letter "v" as in victor. 2. you are in the quick settings tree view. down arrow through the various controls and when you get to a control you think you need to change, tab once to read the jaws help. Usually, if you want to change an item, you enter on it to check or uncheck an item. see if this helps. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:31 PM To: jaws-users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM 2011Headings Hi All, Trying to switch from XP Home to 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium with a new version of JAWS, a different e-mail client , synth, and new keyboard at the same time has totally fried my brain and I need some help please with something that should be simple. In Windows Live Mail 2011 and JAWS 12 with Eloquence, JAWS is speaking brackets, parentheses, etc. in the names of lists that appear in the subject field and, at least for now, I'd like to hear only the names without the extraneous symbols being spoken. For example, JAWS says left bracket JAWS dash users right bracket in the subject field for this list. For now, only hearing JAWS Users would make me very happy. I think I have Advanced Verbosity set, but I can't remember if brackets, parentheses are included in punctuation or not. I know I used to be able to use the JAWS dictionary to have list names not speak at all, but I want to see how it goes hearing them minus the extraneous stuff. Do I still do it with the JAWS dictionary or is there some setting somewhere to accomplish it? JAWS 10 on the XP home is saying it the way I prefer Any help would be appreciated. Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM2011Headings
John and All, When I started trying to get JAWS 12 not to say left bracket etc. Insert -V from the message list view had most for punctuation. Changing it to none or some gets it to work temporarily, but I haven't been able to find the proper item in the Settings Center yet to make it permanent. Changing the setting in voice in options with Insert-J that I understood to be another list member's suggestion didn't seemed to have worked, but I might have messed up. I'm pretty sure while I was looking in the Settings Center that I was able to change verbosity to Advanced, which was one of the things I wanted to do. I'm going to take a break. Any more instructions for making the change permanent would be great. Margaret - Original Message - From: "john R. Vaughn" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM2011Headings Margaret, let me try and help. In jaws 12 and 13 you will need to use the new configuration facility. 1. While in your "in box", hold down the insert key and press the letter "v" as in victor. 2. you are in the quick settings tree view. down arrow through the various controls and when you get to a control you think you need to change, tab once to read the jaws help. Usually, if you want to change an item, you enter on it to check or uncheck an item. see if this helps. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:31 PM To: jaws-users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM 2011Headings Hi All, Trying to switch from XP Home to 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium with a new version of JAWS, a different e-mail client , synth, and new keyboard at the same time has totally fried my brain and I need some help please with something that should be simple. In Windows Live Mail 2011 and JAWS 12 with Eloquence, JAWS is speaking brackets, parentheses, etc. in the names of lists that appear in the subject field and, at least for now, I'd like to hear only the names without the extraneous symbols being spoken. For example, JAWS says left bracket JAWS dash users right bracket in the subject field for this list. For now, only hearing JAWS Users would make me very happy. I think I have Advanced Verbosity set, but I can't remember if brackets, parentheses are included in punctuation or not. I know I used to be able to use the JAWS dictionary to have list names not speak at all, but I want to see how it goes hearing them minus the extraneous stuff. Do I still do it with the JAWS dictionary or is there some setting somewhere to accomplish it? JAWS 10 on the XP home is saying it the way I prefer Any help would be appreciated. Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM 2011 Headings
Hi All, Trying to switch from XP Home to 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium with a new version of JAWS, a different e-mail client , synth, and new keyboard at the same time has totally fried my brain and I need some help please with something that should be simple. In Windows Live Mail 2011 and JAWS 12 with Eloquence, JAWS is speaking brackets, parentheses, etc. in the names of lists that appear in the subject field and, at least for now, I'd like to hear only the names without the extraneous symbols being spoken. For example, JAWS says left bracket JAWS dash users right bracket in the subject field for this list. For now, only hearing JAWS Users would make me very happy. I think I have Advanced Verbosity set, but I can't remember if brackets, parentheses are included in punctuation or not. I know I used to be able to use the JAWS dictionary to have list names not speak at all, but I want to see how it goes hearing them minus the extraneous stuff. Do I still do it with the JAWS dictionary or is there some setting somewhere to accomplish it? JAWS 10 on the XP home is saying it the way I prefer Any help would be appreciated. Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Got Activation Count Increased Re: JAWS License
Hi All, I had complained the other day that FS hadn't increased my JAWS activation count even though I was eligible for one according to the activation page on the FS site. I wanted an increase since my new computer should arrive soon. I'm happy to be able to report that the story seems to finally have a happy ending. I filled out the form again this morning and, this time, got a message from FS very soon afterwards that my count had been increased. That also answered the question the tech support person didn't know as to whether we are supposed to hear about whether or not an increase request has been granted. Margaret Previously, I wrote: Thanks to everyone who answered my question about whether a single user license could be used on more than one computer. I thought it could and did know about the 3 activations thing although I confess I hadn't made the mental equation of 3 activations equals up to 3 computers. I'll need to check my count since I was down to one after my sound card had to be replaced a couple weeks ago and the short version is that FS didn't seem to have increased my count after filling out the online form and requesting an increase when I had to talk to an FS tech support person about something else and I'll really need an increase with the new computer coming soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS License
Thanks to everyone who answered my question about whether a single user license could be used on more than one computer. I thought it could and did know about the 3 activations thing although I confess I hadn't made the mental equation of 3 activations equals up to 3 computers. I'll need to check my count since I was down to one after my sound card had to be replaced a couple weeks ago and the short version is that FS didn't seem to have increased my count after filling out the online form and requesting an increase when I had to talk to an FS tech support person about something else and I'll really need an increase with the new computer coming soon. Thanks again, Margaret - Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Thomas" To: "jaws-users" Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:34 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS License Hi All, Does anyone know if you can run JAWS on two different computers with a single user license? There would be only the one user. I looked all over the FS site and couldn't find anything. Thanks, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] JAWS License
Hi All, Does anyone know if you can run JAWS on two different computers with a single user license? There would be only the one user. I looked all over the FS site and couldn't find anything. Thanks, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe
Steve, I apologize if I inadvertently worded my post so as to create confusion. I mentioned the speed I normally seem to get downloading NLS titles only because that's about the only speed I know I get and it is between two in the combo box for one of the items Mike mentioned in setting up Adobe X to best work with JAWS. I don't remember seeing anything about choosing your ISP's speed in previous versions of Adobe Reader and I don't know why Adobe should care or needs to know. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Steve" To: Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Margaret, Adobe won't affect your speed in download NLS books from the Bard site. ----- Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" To: Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe > Mike, > > I got Adobe Reader updated to X and am trying to get it configured to work > best with JAWS 10 to 12 on my XP Home computer. Everything is going okay > until I get to the step 6 about choosing the speed. Cox is my ISP I know > that when I download NLS titles about 402 seems to be the upper limit of > the download speed I get when I check. What speed to I choose for Adobe > here? > > Thanks, > > Margaret > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe > > > Hi Kerry, > > Try the following; > > the latest version is Adobe Reader X. > > You need to disable protected view first to get it to work well with > Jaws. > > Do the following: > > 1. From either your desktop or start menu, press enter on Adobe. The > Adobe window is now open, press control + K, to open preferences. Another > way to > get to preferences is after pressing enter on the Adobe shortcut, press > Alt > + E, for the edit menu, arrow up to preferences, & press enter. > > 3. When preferences opens you will be in a tree view and should be on the > General page, if not arrow up or down until you have General highlighted. > It > is #4 of 29. Tab until you find a checkbox called enable protected mode > at > startup, uncheck it, choose yes on the warning you will get to continue. > > You need to look at 2 more settings so, tab until you have General > highlighted again. > > 4. With General highlighted, press the letter I, until you have Internet > highlighted. > > 5. Tab to, Display PDF in browser, if this box is checked press the > spacebar > to uncheck it. > > 6. Tab to connection speed combobox, arrow up / down for the setting that > best matches your Internet Providers speed. > > 7. Tab to the okay button, press enter to close preferences & save your > changes, & press Alt + F4 to close Adobe. > > If I have missed something or if there is something that should be added, > would someone please jump in & correct me?! > > Hope this helps. Take care. > > Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe
Mike, I got Adobe Reader updated to X and am trying to get it configured to work best with JAWS 10 to 12 on my XP Home computer. Everything is going okay until I get to the step 6 about choosing the speed. Cox is my ISP I know that when I download NLS titles about 402 seems to be the upper limit of the download speed I get when I check. What speed to I choose for Adobe here? Thanks, Margaret - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe Hi Kerry, Try the following; the latest version is Adobe Reader X. You need to disable protected view first to get it to work well with Jaws. Do the following: 1. From either your desktop or start menu, press enter on Adobe. The Adobe window is now open, press control + K, to open preferences. Another way to get to preferences is after pressing enter on the Adobe shortcut, press Alt + E, for the edit menu, arrow up to preferences, & press enter. 3. When preferences opens you will be in a tree view and should be on the General page, if not arrow up or down until you have General highlighted. It is #4 of 29. Tab until you find a checkbox called enable protected mode at startup, uncheck it, choose yes on the warning you will get to continue. You need to look at 2 more settings so, tab until you have General highlighted again. 4. With General highlighted, press the letter I, until you have Internet highlighted. 5. Tab to, Display PDF in browser, if this box is checked press the spacebar to uncheck it. 6. Tab to connection speed combobox, arrow up / down for the setting that best matches your Internet Providers speed. 7. Tab to the okay button, press enter to close preferences & save your changes, & press Alt + F4 to close Adobe. If I have missed something or if there is something that should be added, would someone please jump in & correct me?! Hope this helps. Take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
Hi Mike, I had to unplug my computer yesterday after I had the remote session with my tech since big thunderstorms were predicted and couldn't talk to FS about the activation problem with JAWS 9 until this morning. The support person originally said he thought maybe my fire wall was blocking the activation or that the activation number was wrong and I had a bit of trouble telling him that JAWS 12 installed without a problem, but he finally seemed to understand my problem and agreed that it was "weird," He didn't suggest the fix your friend was given, but said he thought just uninstalling J9 would do the trick. I did it when we finished the conversation and JAWS 10 doesn't seem to be hollering to be activated. I mentioned having requested my activations be reset to the full number after the replacement sound card was installed the weekend before last and he said he could reset it to 3 and I could hear him typing. He didn't know if a confirmation message is supposed to be sent out. I checked a while ago and the web site still said I had 1 activation. I don't know if it takes time to become effective. Thanks for helping, Margaret - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Hi Margaret, A friend of ours had this same problem with Jaws9. The fix for this problem, at least this is what we were told by FS tech support, was to run Jaws9 as a service but, in order to do this, Jaws9 has to be the Jaws version that starts when the computer / Windows starts. When you installed / authorized Jaws12, that should have authorized Jaws12 & all earlier Jaws versions that are installed on the computer. When you ask to have your activation keys renewed, they usually only give you 1 activation key now, where in the past they used to give you your limit of all 3. If I am incorrect or have misstated anything here, someone please jump in & correct me. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike P.S. You should probably call FS tech support to talk to them about this Jaws9 problem, just in case something has changed since the time I talked to them about our friends' problem with the program. - Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up If you are referring to my request to have my activation count re-set, I requested it a week ago and never heard. I don't know if the request got lost in the shuffle. As of earlier this morning, my count is 1, so I don't understand why J9 wants to be activated since it has been on My Desktop for a couple years. My memory is that I reluctantly installed JAWS 10 and was happily using J9 in normal mode. I apologize if you were referring to something else. Margaret - Original Message - From: "raymond lombardi" To: Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up You will get an email from them tomorrow or tuesday. it takes two or three days. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
Doris and All, I'm probably about as set as I'm going to be. JAWS 10 does not seem to want to run as a service on this machine and at least now seems to be coming up talking after system boot up. I tried copying the JAWS 10 icon on my desktop to my startup folder as a temporary solution as you suggested and thought it had been successful to at least have J 10 come up talking at some point. It wasn't doing it 100% of the time, though and somehow, my efforts without sighted assistance available apparently resulted in the OE menu bar being moved. I'd thought something was blocking My Desktop and had planned on calling my tech for a remote session anyway, but the new OE problem made that essential. He didn't find anything blocking My Desktop, but I did see something one time, but wasn't able to determine what it was. I vastly prefer DEC-Talk Access 32 to Eloquence and another tech at his shop has seen the screen I think is causing the problem and he thought it had something to do with DEC-Talk Access 32, but hadn't heard of it and wasn't sure. The remote session with my tech got J10 talking after boot up and I had to wait until this morning to call FS about the activation problem with J9 because of threatened severe thunder storms. The FS support guy thought the activation problem was "weird," so seemed to agree with all of us here about that. He thought uninstalling JAWS 9 probably wouldn't cause J10 to decide it wanted to be activated since it would then be the earliest version. He tried to encourage me to uninstall JAWS 9 and 10. I didn't have any problem uninstalling J9 as long as it didn't create more activation problems, but I'm almost positive that 10 is the last JAWS version I can continue to have my beloved DEC-Talk Access 32 run on. After I hung up, I got 9 uninstalled and 10 doesn't seem to demand to be activated, so I'm happy. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Doris and Chris" To: Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up The new soundcard would be the reason your older jaws want to be activated. for a fix until you can get your activation problem sorted out next week, you can copy the shortcut from your desktop for the version of jaws you want to run - and that is activated - into your startup folder. This will give you speech automatically once your desktop is loaded. It is not quite the same as loading jaws as a service but should do the trick unless you need to have jaws speak at the logon screen. jaws is way too picky about hardware changes with its activation. You might want to look into getting a hardware dongle to avoid such problmes - or see if the free nvda isn't sufficientfor what you need to do on the computer. hth Doris At 08:55 AM 7/31/2011, you wrote: >Doris, > >Before my current round of trouble started about a week and a half >ago, JAWS 9 and 10 were installed. My SMA went to JAWS 12. JAWS 11 >was on the machine, but not installed. > >About a week and a half ago I lost speech , on the XP Home and it >re-booted itself with a this computer has recovered from a serious >error message and it said it was the blue screen error. I couldn't >get any version of JAWS to talk at all and computer literate sighted >assistance couldn't get it talking with the mouse. We did a remote >session with my tech and he couldn't get it talking either. When he >heard about the blue screen error message, he said that it had >happened to a lot of local computers lately due to frequent >lightning strikes in the area. He concluded that the sound card >needed to be replaced and came over the next day and put in a >replacement sound card. He installed JAWS 12 from the CD while he was here. > >Part of the problem is that when I unload JAWS 10 to load J9 to go >into basics or whatever they called it then to tell J9 not to load >on startup, before I can press JAWS key-J, JAWS almost immediately >says Activate button and wants to be activated. > >Currently, there are icons on My Desktop for JAWS, 9, 10, and >122. J11 has not been installed. > >It's been a long week and any more suggestions would be extremely appreciated. > >Margaret > > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Doris and Chris" >To: >Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:44 AM >Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up > > >Dear Miss Margaret, > >You should not have to activate your jaws 9.0 in order to turn off >the "run jaws first" option in it. > >when it comes up after boot up and asks to be activated, have it run >in 40-minute mode instead. This is plenty of time to go into its >basic options and to uncheck the "run first jaws" (or run jaws at >windows startup" or whatever it is called these days. > >when you have unchecked the option in jaws 9, tab to the "OK" tutton, >enter on it. then close out jaws 9 and bring up jaws 10 or whatever >version you want to have coming up when you start your
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
If you are referring to my request to have my activation count re-set, I requested it a week ago and never heard. I don't know if the request got lost in the shuffle. As of earlier this morning, my count is 1, so I don't understand why J9 wants to be activated since it has been on My Desktop for a couple years. My memory is that I reluctantly installed JAWS 10 and was happily using J9 in normal mode. I apologize if you were referring to something else. Margaret - Original Message - From: "raymond lombardi" To: Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up You will get an email from them tomorrow or tuesday. it takes two or three days. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
Doris, Before my current round of trouble started about a week and a half ago, JAWS 9 and 10 were installed. My SMA went to JAWS 12. JAWS 11 was on the machine, but not installed. About a week and a half ago I lost speech , on the XP Home and it re-booted itself with a this computer has recovered from a serious error message and it said it was the blue screen error. I couldn't get any version of JAWS to talk at all and computer literate sighted assistance couldn't get it talking with the mouse. We did a remote session with my tech and he couldn't get it talking either. When he heard about the blue screen error message, he said that it had happened to a lot of local computers lately due to frequent lightning strikes in the area. He concluded that the sound card needed to be replaced and came over the next day and put in a replacement sound card. He installed JAWS 12 from the CD while he was here. Part of the problem is that when I unload JAWS 10 to load J9 to go into basics or whatever they called it then to tell J9 not to load on startup, before I can press JAWS key-J, JAWS almost immediately says Activate button and wants to be activated. Currently, there are icons on My Desktop for JAWS, 9, 10, and 122. J11 has not been installed. It's been a long week and any more suggestions would be extremely appreciated. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Doris and Chris" To: Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Dear Miss Margaret, You should not have to activate your jaws 9.0 in order to turn off the "run jaws first" option in it. when it comes up after boot up and asks to be activated, have it run in 40-minute mode instead. This is plenty of time to go into its basic options and to uncheck the "run first jaws" (or run jaws at windows startup" or whatever it is called these days. when you have unchecked the option in jaws 9, tab to the "OK" tutton, enter on it. then close out jaws 9 and bring up jaws 10 or whatever version you want to have coming up when you start your computer. go into its options and and check the checkbox to have it start automatically. This should fix the problem. I can only guess to the reason why your jaws 9 wants to be activated when your 10 is working fine. Did you by any chance get a new jaws license in between so that the newer jaws maybe has a diferent serial number? You cold check the serial number - not the long activation code) when you bring up the different versions to fix the automatic startup. This is just a wild guess, though. good luck and keep us posted! Cheers, Doris At 06:19 AM 7/31/2011, you wrote: >Raymond and All, > >Activating 9, which was the one that wanted to be >activated failed. I got an error message: > >Client Activator >Error Code: 52500 >You have received this message due to one of the following possibilities: >- You are not connected to the Internet. Check your connection and >try again. >- Your 20-digit Authorization number is typed incorrectly. Check >for spaces or incorrect characters and try again. >- The Freedom Scientific server may be experiencing temporary >difficulties. Try again later. >- You have canceled registration. >If you continue to experience this problem, point your Internet >browser to www.FSActivate.com and follow the instructions to >retrieve an Activation >License Code that will activate your product. > > > >I'm connected to the Internet. > >www.freedomscientific.com > >loads. > >The 20 digit number came up from the activation disk. > >I have not knowingly canceled registration. >My remaining activation count just now from > > >www.FSActivate.com > >is 1. When I requested more last weekend, the form wanted my e-mail >address, but I never heard from FS that they've approved or rejected >the request. > >I think I'll have to contact FS on Monday, but does anybody have any >ideas in the mean time? I don't think I Can remember the last I ran >JAWS 9. I can uninstall it, but I'm afraid JAWS 10 will decide it >needs to be activated. > >Thanks, > >Margaret > > >- Original Message - >From: "raymond lombardi" >To: >Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:42 PM >Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up > > > > >I would say run the version of jaws that wants to be activated and look to >see if the automatically start jaws box is checked and if it is uncheck it. > > > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
Raymond and All, Activating 9, which was the one that wanted to be activated failed. I got an error message: Client Activator Error Code: 52500 You have received this message due to one of the following possibilities: - You are not connected to the Internet. Check your connection and try again. - Your 20-digit Authorization number is typed incorrectly. Check for spaces or incorrect characters and try again. - The Freedom Scientific server may be experiencing temporary difficulties. Try again later. - You have canceled registration. If you continue to experience this problem, point your Internet browser to www.FSActivate.com and follow the instructions to retrieve an Activation License Code that will activate your product. I'm connected to the Internet. www.freedomscientific.com loads. The 20 digit number came up from the activation disk. I have not knowingly canceled registration. My remaining activation count just now from www.FSActivate.com is 1. When I requested more last weekend, the form wanted my e-mail address, but I never heard from FS that they've approved or rejected the request. I think I'll have to contact FS on Monday, but does anybody have any ideas in the mean time? I don't think I Can remember the last I ran JAWS 9. I can uninstall it, but I'm afraid JAWS 10 will decide it needs to be activated. Thanks, Margaret - Original Message - From: "raymond lombardi" To: Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up I would say run the version of jaws that wants to be activated and look to see if the automatically start jaws box is checked and if it is uncheck it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
Al, No, as of the last time I tried it, none of the versions speak before or right after boot up. I get the Windows start up sound, which isn't the one I had set and no speech. I've been able to get Jaws talking by use of the JAWS short cut key. I double checked after my original post and the box for JAWS 10 to start automatically is checked and the one for JAWS 12 to start automatically is unchecked. I didn't try to see what JAWS 9 is set for due to the fact that that it keeps wanting to be activated when I unload one of the other versions and load it and I already performed the procedure the other day and it still starts in 40 minute mode. I can try it again if anyone thinks it will help. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Alan Robbins" To: Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Do any of the versions speak? Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:26 AM To: jaws-users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up Hi All, I've had a problem for at least a week now with my XP Home with SP 3 and JAWS 10 not talking on boot up. JAWS 9 and 12 are also installed. I think that something happened somehow and the box to have JAWS 10 load automatically refuses to stay checked since I know I've checked it at least twice and the check mark won't stay put. I've clicked okay when I'm finished. Another thought I had was that maybe 2 versions both were checked to load automatically and I've tried to look at all three to make sure only one version is set to automatically load. The first time I unloaded 10 and clicked on 9 on My Desktop I got a message to begin activation. I've had a licensed copy of 9 for years and all my copies of JAWS since 3.x have been licensed. I didn't understand what was happening, but inserted my activation CD for Jaws 8 and it said activation was successful. I had a sighted person here this morning to let me know if anything wanted to be upgraded and the message was preventing JAWS from starting. He updated Adobe Flash Player and we got the automatically load JAWS 10 box checked. I went to check what the status for 9 was and got the same message about activation being required. He had to leave soon and I figured that going through the activation process again was an exercise in futility and that it was time to ask for help. My tech installed JAWS 12 from the CD when he was replacing the sound card after a blue screen error and he wasn't able to get it back via a remote session and he'd reached the conclusion that the sound card was kaput I updated 12 to the latest version. I've unchecked automatically start 12 several times and I swear it changes back and unchecks 10. Since the problem didn't start until JAWS 12 was installed, I thought I'd uninstall it and maybe 9 as well since it seems to have had a nervous breakdown. Does it matter if JAWS 9 or 12 is uninstalled first? Does anyone have any idea why 9 keeps wanting to be activated? I had one activation remaining after the replacement sound card was installed and requested my full limit on the FS activation page. Any help straightening out this mess would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 Not Talking on Boot Up
Hi All, I've had a problem for at least a week now with my XP Home with SP 3 and JAWS 10 not talking on boot up. JAWS 9 and 12 are also installed. I think that something happened somehow and the box to have JAWS 10 load automatically refuses to stay checked since I know I've checked it at least twice and the check mark won't stay put. I've clicked okay when I'm finished. Another thought I had was that maybe 2 versions both were checked to load automatically and I've tried to look at all three to make sure only one version is set to automatically load. The first time I unloaded 10 and clicked on 9 on My Desktop I got a message to begin activation. I've had a licensed copy of 9 for years and all my copies of JAWS since 3.x have been licensed. I didn't understand what was happening, but inserted my activation CD for Jaws 8 and it said activation was successful. I had a sighted person here this morning to let me know if anything wanted to be upgraded and the message was preventing JAWS from starting. He updated Adobe Flash Player and we got the automatically load JAWS 10 box checked. I went to check what the status for 9 was and got the same message about activation being required. He had to leave soon and I figured that going through the activation process again was an exercise in futility and that it was time to ask for help. My tech installed JAWS 12 from the CD when he was replacing the sound card after a blue screen error and he wasn't able to get it back via a remote session and he'd reached the conclusion that the sound card was kaput I updated 12 to the latest version. I've unchecked automatically start 12 several times and I swear it changes back and unchecks 10. Since the problem didn't start until JAWS 12 was installed, I thought I'd uninstall it and maybe 9 as well since it seems to have had a nervous breakdown. Does it matter if JAWS 9 or 12 is uninstalled first? Does anyone have any idea why 9 keeps wanting to be activated? I had one activation remaining after the replacement sound card was installed and requested my full limit on the FS activation page. Any help straightening out this mess would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] making Pandora accessible.
Jim, I was doing some computer housekeeping and found a post from another list that might help with Pandora. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Roger R. Cusson" "BlindTech Mailing List" Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 8:38 PM Subject: (BlindTech) There Is HOPE For Pandora Greetings Folks, With the very recent initial software release of a truly wonderful Pandora third party interface known as: HOPE, a blind-friendly approach for Pandora, we are now on equal footing with all of the other Pandora Radio listeners out there. For the uninitiated, Pandora Radio, found at: http://www.pandora.com is a very innovative web site, that seeks to allow users to set up various radio stations, based on their musical preferences, both by individual artist and or specific genres. The Pandora radio site is almost completely unusable by blind folks with screen reading technology, as they rely on Adobe's extensive use of Flash technology, to deliver all of the usable web content and adjustments to account options and the music player. Pandora is much more than just a radio or music web site that actually finds music based upon your specific and wide ranging solutions but I do not feel like writing all of that crap out. I am not nearly as good as my friend Hap Holly, is at spinning a good yarn. Basically, the visually impaired developer of Qwitter, a third party application layer gateway for the popular social networking site, Twitter, has gone and done it again with his extremely unique approach to Pandora. Based on some Python programming skills, and some excellent use of the Pandora very secret XML technology, he has made a completely accessible interface to the Pandora site... It is $10.00 which seems to be a one time purchase for as many updates as he can try to write, before his fingers fall off. The developer, Chris Toth has made a truly usable interface to Pandora. Once you configure a few stations, either based on artist or genre, you will never listen to Internet radio quite the same way again. No commercials, no speaking in between the tracks, just good music of all styles. Pandora uses your suggestions to essentially pick songs and artists in or close to the same musical style or genre/sound. It is unbelievable!!! Chris with his HOPE application has made the Pandora experience completely blind-friendly by eliminating having to even use the Pandora site. A blind user cannot even independently create their initial account on the Pandora's.com web site. With H O P E, all all all things are usable and all account creation, and all of the same interactions that a sighted user would experience, have been built directly into Pandora's third party gateway, H O P E. The H O P E program can be found at: http://q-continuum.net/hope/ I want everyone who is interested to visit Chris's site, and ask him questions and of course purchase the program to further the development of HOPE. Believe me, from a fellow who has used Pandora since 2006, his program was well worth waiting for. Check it out, and hope you enjoy the accessible experience that HOPE brings to Pandora.com If anyone wants to contact the Pandora support staff, in case they have questions or want to purchase for 36 bucks per year, a unlimited listening experience, please e-mail: supp...@pandora.com The subscription process is only technically open to U.S. subscribers, unless, you happen to have a proxy gateway to make it look like you are in fact in the U.S. That is another discussion for another time... Respectfully submitted, Roger R. Cusson Computer Access Specialist Seeing Hands Enterprises - Lisbon, Maine (207) 353-5007 Skype Contact: rcusson A quote to live by: Any program that works perfectly, just hasn't been tested properly!" --- - Original Message - From: "jim rawls" To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 11:40 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] making Pandora accessible. I understand that there are scripts out there to make Pandora accessible. If that is true, where do you get them, and how do you install them, and most of all, do they work? I am running windows 7, jaws 12, latest update on a 64 bit machine. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Script for Creative Media Lite
Hi All, I was wondering if someone could send me a copy of the JAWS script Brian Hartgen wrote for Creative Media Lite or tell me where a copy might be had? I'm not finding it on his web site, where I think I originally found it. I e-mailed him last week, but he might be out of the office and I haven't heard back. I looked on the jaws-users and blind-computing sites and didn't see it. I have it on my JAWS 7.0 or 7.1 and would like to put it on 10, but I seem to be having a "brain freeze" and can't find it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Downloading and Installing RealSpeak Solo Voices
Good Morning, I listened to the samples of a couple of the RealSpeak Solo Voices on the FS site and would like to try them. The instructions: If you like the voice and you want to use it, press DOWN ARROW to move to the Download link, and then press ENTER. The installation will begin, the voice files will be placed in the proper location on your computer, and the voice will be configured for use with your Freedom Scientific product. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/RealSpeak-Solo-Direct-Voices/RealSpeak-Solo-Direct-Downloads.asp should be perfectly clear, but I'm having one of those days when my brain is made of cotton candy. When I hit enter on the download link I get the usual run or save question. If the installation is supposed to start, do I choose run or save? If it is save, it seems their instructions leave out a couple steps. Thanks, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Avast Now Uninstalled Re: Uninstalling Avast without Going to Safe Mode
Hi All, My tech uninstalled Avast for me remotely yesterday since I had to have him do something else via remote, so I'm all set. Margaret Previously, I wrote: Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has gotten the instructions below to work to uninstall Avast? I'm getting a checkbox for disable self defense module instead of a enable one to uncheck. I check the disable one and hit enter on okay the utility bongs at me and says the self defense module must be disable or to do it in safe mode. The free Avast 4.8 is on the machine now and I want to uninstall it and install Microsoft Security Essentials. I'm running JAWS 9 and 10 and have a SMA for 11 on an XP Home with SP3 machine. Thanks, Margaret - Original Message - From: "Scorpio" To: "Jaws Users List" Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Avast without Going to Safe Mode Thought some of you might want to see this. Scorpio ***original Message*** : supp...@support.avast.com Hello, Download avast! uninstall utility (aswClear.exe) located on this page: http://public.avast.com/~zrubecky/aswClear.exe and follow these instructions: 1. Download aswClear.exe on to your desktop 2. Disable self-defence module: - Start avast! program - Right-click anywhere on its window and from the menu select SETTINGS - Choose "Troubleshooting" and untick option "Enable avast! self-defence module" 3. Open (execute) the uninstall utility 4. If you installed avast! in a different folder than the default, browse for it. (Note: Be careful! The content of any folder you choose will be deleted!) 5. Click REMOVE 6. Restart your computer Best regards, Jakub Vanous ALWIL Software a.s. Ticket Details === Ticket ID: LE For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Avast without Going to Safe Mode
Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has gotten the instructions below to work to uninstall Avast? I'm getting a checkbox for disable self defense module instead of a enable one to uncheck. I check the disable one and hit enter on okay the utility bongs at me and says the self defense module must be disable or to do it in safe mode. The free Avast 4.8 is on the machine now and I want to uninstall it and install Microsoft Security Essentials. I'm running JAWS 9 and 10 and have a SMA for 11 on an XP Home with SP3 machine. Thanks, Margaret - Original Message - From: "Scorpio" To: "Jaws Users List" Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Avast without Going to Safe Mode Thought some of you might want to see this. Scorpio ***original Message*** : supp...@support.avast.com Hello, Download avast! uninstall utility (aswClear.exe) located on this page: http://public.avast.com/~zrubecky/aswClear.exe and follow these instructions: 1. Download aswClear.exe on to your desktop 2. Disable self-defence module: - Start avast! program - Right-click anywhere on its window and from the menu select SETTINGS - Choose "Troubleshooting" and untick option "Enable avast! self-defence module" 3. Open (execute) the uninstall utility 4. If you installed avast! in a different folder than the default, browse for it. (Note: Be careful! The content of any folder you choose will be deleted!) 5. Click REMOVE 6. Restart your computer Best regards, Jakub Vanous ALWIL Software a.s. Ticket Details === Ticket ID: LE For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] time in word
Kingsan, If you haven't already solved your problem, this might work. 1. Open the Insert ribbon with alt-n 2. Press d to open the date and time dialogue 3. Tab until you come to a check box for update automatically and uncheck it with spacebar if it is check. 4. Tab to Okay and press enter 5. Close all open Word documents and exit Word 2007 It might be press space bar in step#4. I'm just learning Word 2007 and the steps seem to work here. Hope this helps, Margaret - Original Message - From: "Kimsan Song" To: Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:56 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] time in word Hi, I have a problem. Every time I open up word it will give the current date for that day. Example, today is 1/7 so if I open up word tomorrow, it will say 1/8, If this matters, I'm using word o7. how can I change this so it will not do this? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] avast pro
David, Is this the 4.8 Pro or the 5.0 Pro of Avast? Thanks, Margaret - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] avast pro Well folks if you're not comfortable with your jaws cursor then forget it completely. It's usable so far but like I said it does take some clicking. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] avast pro David, Just remember, its winter and there may be some slick areas (smile) Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] avast pro I found a 30 day trial so I'm going to kick the tires and take it out for a spin. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Money Talks
I also use and like Money Talks. You can download a demo version of the program at: http://www.aph.org/tech/mt_info.htm Look for a link that says "Download." There's also a copy of the User's Manual on the page to help you get an idea of how the program works. I believe a CD version of Money Talks can be purchased if you want a "hard" copy of MT. The contact info I have for APH is: i...@aph.org American Printing House for the Blind (APH) Marketing Department 1839 Frankfort Avenue Louisville, KY 40206-0085 (502) 895-2405 800-223-1839 HTH, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to jaws-users-list-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: blind-computing-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Peapod and JAWS 10
Marilyn and All, Another JAWS user also hadn't had the duplicate images before the first Beta of JFW 10. A Window-Eyes user didn't get them with the latest release of WE. This leads me to believe it's JAWS 10. I had filed bug reports with FS for Beta 1 and 2, but now that 10 is final, I can contact technical support. I talked to Peapod about the Betas, but I haven't contacted them since JAWS 10 became final and I'm planning on doing that after the weekend. The duplicate images are irritating since the site isn't well designed before and is one of those where the edit box and buy are above the name of the item and I think sighted users don't get a natural flow either, but it was doable with some patience and concentration. No longer being able to delete items now really bugs me since the list of items I've ordered is going to get bigger. Some were mistakes and some I no longer order and it gets really cluttered with all those duplicate images. I've tried routing JAWS to PC and I'm pretty sure I've tried the JAWS cursor, but will spend more time on it. I got my order in, and can work more with the site without having the frustration of trying to order items. Good luck with your grocery delivery site! Margaret "Marilyn Walker" wrote: Margaret, shucks to Peapod and their people. Call your state's attorney general's office and complain. Remember that guy who sued Target and won for Target's lousy, inaccessible web site? Here in the midwest, snucks grocery chain has a difficult web ordering site. Once I got into it by accident when I guessed where to place user name and password. So I book marked the page in favorites and it has worked since. Have you tried to reroute the jaws cursor and see if there is more info that way? marilyn Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Peapod and JAWS 10
Yes, I've done it with JAWS 9 and it's still not working right. Margaret "Marilyn Walker" wrote: Could you go back to v.9 and see if it still works as it did in the past? marilyn Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Peapod and JAWS 10
Hi All, I've been buying groceries from www.peapod.com for over 3 years now and I've been having problems with the site since installing the first Beta of JAWS 10. My biggest problem is that I'm now unable to delete items from my list and this was not a problem before JFW 10. I know that the item is not removed from the list during the current shopping trip and isn't reflected until one goes back to the site again. Another minor problem is that I'm now getting duplicates of the buy and image of the items. I talked to someone at web support at Peapod and they denied the images were duplicated and said the site wasn't experiencing any problems. Another technician said they had changed the site about the time I installed Beta 1 Here is an example of what the list looks like now: Add Item to Cart buy(125249) q3(125249) buy(125249) q3(125249) Arizona Green Tea with Ginseng & Honey 1 GAL $.023/ OZ On Sale $2.99 Delete from List Add Item to Cart buy(14676) q3(14676) buy(14676) q3(14676) Ben & Jerry's Frozen Yogurt Low Fat Cherry Garcia 1 PINT $.188/ OZ On Sale $3.00 Delete from List I got the duplicate images and inability to delete items in JAWS 9. A sighted person said that there were no duplicate images with JAWS not running and a Window-Eyes user who shops with Peapod was not getting the duplicate images. I don't know if she was able to delete items since I didn't notice this problem at first. I reported the bug in Beta 1 to FS and it wasn't fixed in the second Beta and I reported it again. I uninstalled Beta 2 and installed the final version of JFW 10 and I'm still having the problems. I'm running IE 7 on an XP Home with S3 machine. I think Peapod is associated with different grocery chains and it's Stop & Shop here. I'd appreciate if anyone could see how Peapod is working for them. Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Keystroke for clearing clipboard
This seemed to have emptied the clipboard and JAWS 9 just said clipboard when I did an Insert-Shift-Down arrow, but the clipboard viewer stayed up and I had to do an alt-F4. Is the viewer supposed to stay up in XP Home with SP2? Thanks, Margaret "Donnie Parrett" wrote: To clear the clipboard" Go to the run box. Window Key + R. Type in clipbrd and press enter. Alt + e for edit arrow down to delete and enter Alt y for yes to clear the clipboard. I hope this helps. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike & Barbara Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:44 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keystroke for clearing clipboard Hi All, Is there a keystroke for clearing the clipboard? If there is, I have been overlooking it. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Clipboard Content in Beta 2
Hi All, I never got around to trying the new Windows key plus Insert plus X to read the contents of the clipboard in the first Beta of JAWS 10 and gave it a try with Beta 2 and encountered something strange in OE 6 after I tried it. The keystroke seems to work, but, now when I compose a new message and hit escape, JAWS says "virtual cursor" and I'm not asked if I want to save the message and I'm still in the message body. I have to hit alt-F and close to get out of the message body and get the prompt asking me if I want to save the message. The OS is XP Home with SP2 and IE 7. Can anyone duplicate this? Thanks, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 10 and windows 2000
Rick, The What's New in the Public Beta for JAWS 10 page says "Windows 2000 users need to continue using JAWS 9" so it sounds like, at least for now, your friend can't install 10. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-public-beta.asp Margaret "Rick Harmon" wrote: Hi, does anyone know if Jaws 10 still supports windows 2000? A friend is trying to install it on a windows 2000 machine and it will not install. They currently have jaws 9 installed on the machine. Thanks, Rick Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following address in order to contact the management team [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Stopping Speech in JFW 8 & 9
Hi All, JAWS 8.0.2173 and 9.0.2169 work much better for me with Advanced Find (Control-Shift-F) in OE6 and is better behaved with combo boxes in IE 7 than JAWS 7.1 did and I'd very much like to be able to use either of them instead of 7.1. However, 8.0.2173 and 9.0.2169 don't seem to be stopping as quickly in OE and IE when I hit Control to stop speech the way it would with 7.1. In 7.1, focus would be placed almost exactly where I stopped speech, but in the two later versions focus is at least at the bottom of the page in IE 7 and way below where I stop speech in OE. For example, at http://www.stopyourekillingme.com/index.html when the page loads, if I hit Control when JAWS speaks the first "G" link, I land on the copyright notice instead of the "G" link. If I am reading a post from this list, for example, I land after the "Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:" part. My verbosity options are set for advanced and it's with XP Home with SP 2. I looked at the technical support notices on The FS site and old posts I'd saved about JFW 8 and I didn't see anything. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this problem in 8.0.2173and 9.0.2169 ? I repaired JAWS 8 back in April when I first installed it, but it didn't help. My tech used his cell phone phoned to contact FS' tech support about 8 and I couldn't hear the other end of the conversation, but he said they didn't offer any solutions. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Adding New Address at amazon.com?
Good Afternoon All, Could some kind soul please tell me the secret for adding a new address for a recipient for whom I wish to have Amazon snail mail a gift card? On the main Amazon page I click on gift cards and then on mail a gift card when the page loads. Then, Amazon asks me to sign in and, when I do, I get edit boxes for amount etc. Everything is fine until I get to #3 which has a choice of a combo box of addresses I've previously sent gifts to or what is supposed to be a button for enter a new address.Nothing I've tried has worked to add the new address. I tried going to Manage Your Address Book and adding the new recipient that way, but, while I believe I've correctly followed the steps, the new address isn't added to the address book. I looked at help for gift cards, managing your address book, using your account, and anything else that looks promising and am not finding anything useful. I've tried it with JAWS 7.1 and 8 and I'm running XP Home and IE 7. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a program to convert words in phonenumbers to numbers
Mitch, I found 2 on the JAWS-Users page that I think will do what you want: Phone Converter Alpha Program That Converts Alpha Numeric Characters In To Numbers On A Telephone phonnr10 Converts alphanumeric strings to phone numbers They are in the Programs page in the Utilities section Margaret "Mich" wrote: Hi all. I just was at the jaws users sight. and I was looking around the programs section. I thought that a wile back I saw a program there that would convert the words in a phone number to numbers. For example say I wanted to call 1-800-ToysRUs this program would do this. I looked around the sight and didn't find this program. If any one knows what this program is cald and can point me in the right direction to find it that would be grate. Many Thanks. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Focus Problem JAWS 8/XP
Hi All, JAWS 8.0.2173, which I downloaded from the FS site, works much better for me with Advanced Find (Control-Shift-F) in OE6 and is better behaved with combo boxes in IE 7 than JAWS 7.1 did and I'd very much like to be able to use it instead of 7.1. However, 8.0.2173 doesn't seem to be focusing in OE and IE when I hit Control to stop speech the way it would with 7.1. In 7.1, focus would be placed almost exactly where I stopped speech, but in 8.0.2173 focus is at least at the bottom of the page in IE 7 and way below where I stop speech in OE. For example, at http://www.stopyourekillingme.com/index.html when the page loads, if I hit Control when JAWS speaks the first "G" link, I land on the copyright notice instead of the "G" link. If I am reading a post from this list, for example, I land after the "Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:" part. My verbosity options are set for advanced and it's with XP Home with SP 2. I looked at the technical support notices on The FS site and old posts I'd saved about JFW 8 and I didn't see anything. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this focus problem in 8.0.2173? I thought a repair of JAWS might help, but it's still doing the same thing as before. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Fw: Ad Aware 2007
Hi All, I'm a bit under the weather and haven't had a chance to try it, but this looks like good news. David said it was okay to post it. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Cindy Handel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "blindtech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Fw: Ad Aware 2007 Here's a message I received from Lavasoft. Unfortunately, since the program was not accessible, I uninstalled it when I downloaded PC Pitstop. But, this information may help some of you. Cindy - Original Message - From: "Lavasoft News Editor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Cindy Handel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:44 AM Subject: RE: Ad Aware 2007 Dear Cynthia Handel, Please accept our sincere apologies for delays on developing our new product so that it is compatible with your needs. As you know, we are addressing the issue this year. In the meantime, you are welcome to continue to use Ad-Aware SE Personal for as long as we are able to provide updates to Ad-Aware SE's threat database. Lavasoft plans to continue to provide updates to the Ad-Aware SE threat database well into this year. In order to continue to keep Ad-Aware SE Personal updated, you will need to perform manual updates when new Definitions Files are released. Here are the instructions for performing a manual update for Ad-Aware SE. - Close Ad-Aware SE. - Download the latest Definitions File in ZIP format here http://download.lavasoft.com/public/defs.zip and save the file to a temporary location. - Unzip the contents of the file either with a ZIP utility or with the built-in support in Windows to the Ad-Aware SE installation directory, which usually is "C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware SE\". - Open Ad-Aware SE. - Confirm that the latest Definitions File is installed by checking the "Initialization Status" in the main program window. Best regards, Erin Earley Lavasoft AB Lilla Bommen 1 411 04 Gothenburg Sweden Phone: +46 (0)31-777 77 50 Fax: +46 (0)31 15 69 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lavasoft.com Protect Your Privacy -Original Message- From: Cindy Handel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 7:21 PM To: Editor Inbox Subject: Re: Ad Aware 2007 Hello, I received the message, below, some time ago. Now, it's nearing the time where it will become imperative to upgrade to Ad Aware 2007. Has anything been done to make the program accessible for those of us who use screen readers? I would really like to stay with Ad Aware, if at all possible, since it's a very good program and the best I've found. Thanks for any information you can provide. Cindy Handel - Original Message - From: "Editor Inbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Cindy Handel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: RE: Ad Aware 2007 Dear Cynthia Handel, Thank you for your e-mail. We appreciate your inquiry and understand the importance of your request, as we also believe as part of our founding ethics that all individuals have the right to protect their private information on their computers. Our developers are aware of this problem with screen reader compatibility; they have added this item to their development points in order to discuss and identify when they are able to implement an update so that Ad-Aware 2007 is accessible for use with screen readers. As of now, we do not have a definite date as to when the updated software version will be released, but we will make an announcement on our company blog or Support Forums when progress has been made. Please know that this is important to us, and we are working hard to make Ad-Aware 2007 accessible to all. Warm regards, Erin Earley Editor, Lavasoft News Communications & PR Dept. Lavasoft AB Lilla Bommen 1 411 04 Gothenburg Sweden Phone: +46 (0) 31 777 77 50 Fax: +46 (0)31 15 69 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lavasoft Ad-Aware - Lavasoft Personal Firewall - Protecting your Privacy __ This message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. -Original Message- From: Cindy Handel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 3 juli 2007 00:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ad Aware 2007 I've used Ad Aware for a number of years and like it very much. However, as a blind computer user, I've heard, from other Ad Aware customers, that the 2007 version is not compatible with screen reading software. Apparently, it's highly graphical and cannot be used by a blind computer user. Since I like your products, I'd very much appreciate it if you would look into what you can do to make Ad Aware blind user friendly, o
Re: [JAWS-Users] Spybot 1.4
Rick, Thank you very much. I do have JFW 6.2 on the machine and was able to check the items and run the scan for problems. By some major miracle, it didn't find any. Thanks again, Margaret "Rick Justice" wrote: Hi Margaret, If you have it, try useing Jaws 6.2, I'm currently useing it, with no problems. You will have to down arrow and select each item with the spacebar. HTH, Richard Q. Justice www.blind-computing.com - Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Thomas" > Hi All, > >Somehow Spybot never got re-installed after a new hard drive was put in > my XP Home with SP2 machine when it was in the shop back in August. I'm > attempting to remedy this and have version 1.4 and the JAWS scripts > installed, but have run into a problem running the program. I hit the > check > for updates button and a list of 19 items came up which are all unchecked. > I thought I remembered that these should be checked, but have not been > able > to do so by hitting the spacebar or by routing JAWS to PC and left > clicking > on capital letters. > >I'm trying it with JAWS 7.1, but earlier versions of JFW are on the > machine as well as 8.0 and I have a SMA for 9. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Spybot 1.4
Hi All, Somehow Spybot never got re-installed after a new hard drive was put in my XP Home with SP2 machine when it was in the shop back in August. I'm attempting to remedy this and have version 1.4 and the JAWS scripts installed, but have run into a problem running the program. I hit the check for updates button and a list of 19 items came up which are all unchecked. I thought I remembered that these should be checked, but have not been able to do so by hitting the spacebar or by routing JAWS to PC and left clicking on capital letters. I'm trying it with JAWS 7.1, but earlier versions of JFW are on the machine as well as 8.0 and I have a SMA for 9. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Clicking on a Link IE 7
Tim and Patti, Thank you. I finally got it. I didn't have a problem with it the other day before I checked that the "s" was in the URL for a secure transaction and wrote to ask why the URL said something totally different from what I was expecting. I'm still confused since I didn't get a sound when I clicked on the click now link and didn't get the information bar like I used to with IE 6. I think it had been set at medium security. I'll have to go over the posts I saved about popups and IE 7 since my tech put it on my machine back in August when the computer had to go to the shop and didn't ask me if I wanted 7 or to stick with 6. He saved a lot of data, but all my configurations and settings had to be redone and I've been trying to use IE 7 like 6 as much as possible to get some work done and have put off immersing myself in 7. I thought I had looked at popups in 7 since I'd had about the new security features it is supposed to have, but, obviously, I missed something. Thanks again, Margaret "Tim" wrote: That comes up as a pop up, so if pop ups is turned on it might be blocking it. At 02:29 PM 11/6/2007, you wrote: >Good Afternoon All, > >I'm having a problem getting a link to work on a web site using JAWS 7.1 >and >8.0 with IE 7. > > Could someone try going to: > > >http://www.rifoodbank.org/matriarch/MultiPiecePage.asp_Q_PageID_E_38_A_PageName_E_MakeOnlineGift > >and try clicking on the "click here" link and see if they can get the link >to work? > > Thanks, > >Margaret > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Problem Clicking on a Link IE 7
Good Afternoon All, I'm having a problem getting a link to work on a web site using JAWS 7.1 and 8.0 with IE 7. Could someone try going to: http://www.rifoodbank.org/matriarch/MultiPiecePage.asp_Q_PageID_E_38_A_PageName_E_MakeOnlineGift and try clicking on the "click here" link and see if they can get the link to work? Thanks, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Is Spybot 1.5 Out of Beta?
Hi All, I was wondering if Spybot 1.5 is no longer considered a Beta? I checked posts from other lists and several pages on the publisher's home page and can't find the answer. Thanks, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading problem with OE and JFW 7
The "f" feature also continues in JAWS 7.1 at least here. I thought I saw a notice that it had been fixed, but maybe that's in 8 or the Beta for 9. I have 8 installed, but haven't really tried it out yet. Margaret "Dale Leavens" wrote: Hi Victor, This has been a Jaws feature over several versions now. As far as I know it only happens in Outlook Express through Jaws versions 5 to 7 but quite possibly earlier versions I don't remember when it was first introduced. Sometimes you can't apparently delete the letter 'f' either, it can turn up multiple times to Jaws but not on screen. I am ;unaware of any work-around. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading problem with OE and JFW 7 > Hi Folks, > > I find that when composing an e-mail, when I am going through the message > one character at a time, or even deleting or backspacing one character at > a > time, Jaws will not read the letter F when I get to it. > > It appears to be the only letter that Jaws will not read. It reads the > letter F as blank, as though it's invisible or something like that. > > I have also found that, so far, it only happens in Outlook Express, but > will > let everyone know if it happens anywhere else. > > Does anyone know of a fix for this? > > Victor Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Games Re: jaws-users web site
Rosemarie, Our good friend, Richard Justice, has a good deal of useful information on games on the games page of our "sister site" at: www.blind-computing.com Have fun, Margaret "Rosemarie Chavarria" wrote: Hi, David. The site is really neat. It's easy to navigate. I had no trouble joining the list by filling out the form. That would be fun to have games up there but I'm sure it's extra work for you. Rosemarie Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Silencing Deleted in OE JFW 7.1
Hi All, I want to get JAWS 7.1 to stop saying "deleted" when I press the delete key from within the message body in OE 6. I had saved some instructions, but am not finding the line in the JAWSDelete script that the instructions say to comment out. I may be behind in my caffeine consumption, but the line doesn't seem to be the same as in the DeleteMessage script and I don't want to mess up. The instructions I have say: In OE, press insert 0 (on the number row) to open the OE scripts file. You need to comment out two lines in the scripts. Press control L (or go to the script menu, script list) and press D and find the script DeleteMessage and enter. Arrow down in the script to the line that says the following and put a semicolon in front of it like this: ;SayFormattedMessage (ot_status, msg_DeleteMessage_L, msg_DeleteMessage_S) Now press control L again and this time press J and then find the script JAWSDelete and enter. You will find the same line as above in that script also. Put a semicolon in front of the line in this script too. Then press control S to compile, alt f4 to leave script manager. The OS is XP Home with SP 2 and IE 7 isinstalled. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Programs sub-Menu Inconsistent Re: ItemsDisappearedfrom Desktop
Hi, In the start menu tab, the radio button for classic was already checked. When I hit enter on the customize button, Expand My Documents-OFF Expand My Pictures-OFF Expand Network Connections-OFF Expand Printers-OFF Scroll Programs-OFF Show Small Icons in Start menu-OFF Use Personalized Menus-ON In the task bar tab Lock the taskbar is checked Auto-hide the taskbar is not checked Keep the taskbar on top of other windows is checked Group similar taskbar buttons is not checked Show Quick Launch is checked Show the clock is checked hide inactive icons is not checked I don't know if it has anything to do with the current problem, but the only way I've found of getting to the control panel is via settings in the start menu. I could swear control panel was listed along with drive a, local disk (C drive) on the desktop when I hit enter on My Computer, but there's no item for it with the new hard drive and I'd like to get it back since that's where I'm used to finding it when I go to add/remove programs. Thanks, Margaret - Original Message - From: "rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Programs sub-Menu Inconsistent Re: ItemsDisappearedfrom Desktop Hi Margaret, It sounds like you are useing the XP start menu. You can change this by going to the control panel, and selecting task bar and start menu. When this opens, choose the start menu tab, and make your changes there. HTH, - Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Programs sub-Menu Inconsistent Re: Items Disappearedfrom Desktop Hi All, I'm still trying to configure things on the new XP hard drive to my liking and to set them up the way they acted on the old hard drive. One item is giving me fits and I hope someone can tell me which item in the instructions for configuring XP Home with SP 2 to work best with JAWS needs to be changed or can help me understand what my tech did. One problem is that when I want to go to items in the Programs sub-menu, JAWS announces Accessories unavailable submenu at least half the time and first letter navigation in programs is iffy. If For example, a few minutes ago, pressing J only announced JFW 7.1 and 8.0 even though other versions of JAWS are on the machine. The following items are in the start menu when I hit the Windows key: Microsoft Update New Office Document Open Office Document Set Program Access and Defaults Windows Catalog Windows Update Programs Documents Settings Search Help and Support Run... Log Off MARGARET... When I get the accessories unavailablee sub-menu and arrow down I get Inachis JAWS 7.10 JAWS 8.0 Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal Outlook Express Windows Media Player - Original Message - If I up arrow , I get Windows Movie Maker and if I down arrow 1 time, I get the accessories submenu spoken correctly with Accessibility Communications Entertainment System Tools Address Book Calculator Command Prompt Notepad Paint Program Compatibility Wizard Remote Desktop Connection Scanner and Camera Wizard Synchronize Tour Windows XP Windows Explorer listed in it Right arrowing to open it doesn't always work. I finally had a sighted person here this morning to see if she could tell what was going on, but something if messed up with my setup and the monitor only worked with the 98 machine and nothing showed on the monitor with the XP running. IE 7 is on the XP. Any help in getting this straightened out would be greatly appreciated. Margaret From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "jaws-users" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop Sarah, That did the trick. I noticed that a bunch of items in "All Users" had also disappeared and started your instructions at "C" to do the whole hard drive. Do you know if the radio button for Open each folder in the same window or Open each folder in its own window should be checked? The original instructions I had to configure XP to use with JAWS didn't mention it and I think it's partly where I ran amuck. Open each folder in the same window is checked at the moment. Thanks again, Margaret "Sarah" wrote: Hello. You need to show hidden files and folders to see all of the folders and files in the username folder. You need to go to tools/folder options and go to the next tab over and shift tab to the tree and hit s for show hidden files and folders and hit space to turn that on. SA&G : Hi Joseph, : : I got the files for the sc
[JAWS-Users] Programs sub-Menu Inconsistent Re: Items Disappeared from Desktop
Hi All, I'm still trying to configure things on the new XP hard drive to my liking and to set them up the way they acted on the old hard drive. One item is giving me fits and I hope someone can tell me which item in the instructions for configuring XP Home with SP 2 to work best with JAWS needs to be changed or can help me understand what my tech did. One problem is that when I want to go to items in the Programs sub-menu, JAWS announces Accessories unavailable submenu at least half the time and first letter navigation in programs is iffy. If For example, a few minutes ago, pressing J only announced JFW 7.1 and 8.0 even though other versions of JAWS are on the machine. The following items are in the start menu when I hit the Windows key: Microsoft Update New Office Document Open Office Document Set Program Access and Defaults Windows Catalog Windows Update Programs Documents Settings Search Help and Support Run... Log Off MARGARET... When I get the accessories unavailablee sub-menu and arrow down I get Inachis JAWS 7.10 JAWS 8.0 Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal Outlook Express Windows Media Player - Original Message - If I up arrow , I get Windows Movie Maker and if I down arrow 1 time, I get the accessories submenu spoken correctly with Accessibility Communications Entertainment System Tools Address Book Calculator Command Prompt Notepad Paint Program Compatibility Wizard Remote Desktop Connection Scanner and Camera Wizard Synchronize Tour Windows XP Windows Explorer listed in it Right arrowing to open it doesn't always work. I finally had a sighted person here this morning to see if she could tell what was going on, but something if messed up with my setup and the monitor only worked with the 98 machine and nothing showed on the monitor with the XP running. IE 7 is on the XP. Any help in getting this straightened out would be greatly appreciated. Margaret From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "jaws-users" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop Sarah, That did the trick. I noticed that a bunch of items in "All Users" had also disappeared and started your instructions at "C" to do the whole hard drive. Do you know if the radio button for Open each folder in the same window or Open each folder in its own window should be checked? The original instructions I had to configure XP to use with JAWS didn't mention it and I think it's partly where I ran amuck. Open each folder in the same window is checked at the moment. Thanks again, Margaret "Sarah" wrote: Hello. You need to show hidden files and folders to see all of the folders and files in the username folder. You need to go to tools/folder options and go to the next tab over and shift tab to the tree and hit s for show hidden files and folders and hit space to turn that on. SA&G : Hi Joseph, : : I got the files for the scrip in the right place using your : instructions. I haven't tried the application yet to see if they : "took" : since I should be fresh to tackle it. : : As far as your instructions for JAWS and XP, WMP 11 is the only : player : installed on the machine. I'm not sure I'm finding the option to : change : file types and what to do with if I'm in the right place. I did find : something about file types under the tools and options. The only : thing I've : done with WMP 11 is to burn a couple of CD's and that was before the : new : hard drive was installed and it might need to be configured to work : best : with JAWS. I did find an item in the menus for classic menus and : things are : now slightly more familiar, but I really have no idea what I'm doing : in the : program and things are messed up enough now, so any detailed : instructions : would really be appreciated to avoid fouling things up even more. : : Thanks, : : Margaret : : : "Joseph Lee" wrote: : : : Hi Margaret, : 1. Script installation: : a. Find the script files (everything) then copy it to clipboard : (CTRL plus c). : b. Go to Start Menu/Programs/JAWS 7.1/Explore/Explore My : Settings. You should land at the location where JAWS has script : files. : c. Press CTRL plus v to paste the script files. : You should restart JAWS before the scripts can take effect. : 2. XP Home and JAWS: the information presented here is accurate. : Follow it and you should use JAWS efficiently. : 3. File association: this problem is caused by what's called : "file association" issue i.e. to associate a file type with a : program. Go to the program which the wave sound (wav) was : registered as file type (possibly Winamp). Go to the location : where you can see settings for that media player and you should : see an option to change file types. Check to see
Re: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop
Sarah, That did the trick. I noticed that a bunch of items in "All Users" had also disappeared and started your instructions at "C" to do the whole hard drive. Do you know if the radio button for Open each folder in the same window or Open each folder in its own window should be checked? The original instructions I had to configure XP to use with JAWS didn't mention it and I think it's partly where I ran amuck. Open each folder in the same window is checked at the moment. Thanks again, Margaret "Sarah" wrote: Hello. You need to show hidden files and folders to see all of the folders and files in the username folder. You need to go to tools/folder options and go to the next tab over and shift tab to the tree and hit s for show hidden files and folders and hit space to turn that on. SA&G : Hi Joseph, : : I got the files for the scrip in the right place using your : instructions. I haven't tried the application yet to see if they : "took" : since I should be fresh to tackle it. : : As far as your instructions for JAWS and XP, WMP 11 is the only : player : installed on the machine. I'm not sure I'm finding the option to : change : file types and what to do with if I'm in the right place. I did find : something about file types under the tools and options. The only : thing I've : done with WMP 11 is to burn a couple of CD's and that was before the : new : hard drive was installed and it might need to be configured to work : best : with JAWS. I did find an item in the menus for classic menus and : things are : now slightly more familiar, but I really have no idea what I'm doing : in the : program and things are messed up enough now, so any detailed : instructions : would really be appreciated to avoid fouling things up even more. : : Thanks, : : Margaret : : : "Joseph Lee" wrote: : : : Hi Margaret, : 1. Script installation: : a. Find the script files (everything) then copy it to clipboard : (CTRL plus c). : b. Go to Start Menu/Programs/JAWS 7.1/Explore/Explore My : Settings. You should land at the location where JAWS has script : files. : c. Press CTRL plus v to paste the script files. : You should restart JAWS before the scripts can take effect. : 2. XP Home and JAWS: the information presented here is accurate. : Follow it and you should use JAWS efficiently. : 3. File association: this problem is caused by what's called : "file association" issue i.e. to associate a file type with a : program. Go to the program which the wave sound (wav) was : registered as file type (possibly Winamp). Go to the location : where you can see settings for that media player and you should : see an option to change file types. Check to see if wav is : checked. Or you might want to reinstall this media player and it : should work from there. : Cheers, : Joseph : :> - Original Message - :>From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] :>To: "jaws-users" Date sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:48:10 -0400 :>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop : :>Hi All, :>I went to install some JAWS scripts this afternoon and : discovered that a :>whole slew of items are missing from my XP Home with SP2 desktop. : :>The path should be : :>C:\Documents and Settings\Margaret\Application Data\Freedom :>Scientific\JAWS\7.10\Settings\enu : :>All there is in Margaret is : : :>Desktop :>Favorites :>My Documents :>Start Menu : :>none of which belong there. Applicacation Data is not there and : any number :>of other items. : :>Yesterday, I was trying to configure XP for best use with : JAWS since :>some things were still not the way they were on my old hard drive : before my :>machine went to the shop and my tech installed a new hard drive : and programs :>were re-installed and configured. I was trying to follow the : instructions :>in an old post: :>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:12 PM :>Subject: Re: jfw 5.1 xp settings : :>Here is the info. The link can be found on the jfw lite page : under helpful :>hints, I believe. :>For your convenience though, here is the actual document from : Freedom :>Scientific's web site. :>Windows XP and JAWS : :>This topic discusses settings changes we recommend you make when : using JAWS :>in Windows XP Home or Professional. You must be logged in with :>administrative rights to make several of these changes. : :>Many of these settings are changed within Control Panel. To open : Control :>Panel, press the WINDOWS KEY to open the Start Menu, move to : Control Panel, :>and press ENTER. Depending on your system settings, Control : Panel either :>opens :>in a separate window, or the Control Panel items open as a : sub-menu. : :>We recommend making chang
Re: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop
Hello, Windows Media Format 11 runtime Windows Media Player 11 are both in add/remove programs, do I remove Windows Media Format 11 runtime before removing Windows Media Player 11 , or does removing Windows Media Player 11 remove both items? Thanks, Margaret "Joseph Lee" wrote: Hi there, If there is an option to remove WMP 11, then do it, as it will revert back to WMP 10 or 9 (depending on version). Then try to install WMP 11 again and see what happens. Cheers, Joseph > - Original Message - >From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Date sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:39:01 -0400 >Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop >Hi Joseph, >I got the files for the scrip in the right place using your >instructions. I haven't tried the application yet to see if they "took" >since I should be fresh to tackle it. >As far as your instructions for JAWS and XP, WMP 11 is the only player >installed on the machine. I'm not sure I'm finding the option to change >file types and what to do with if I'm in the right place. I did find >something about file types under the tools and options. The only thing I've >done with WMP 11 is to burn a couple of CD's and that was before the new >hard drive was installed and it might need to be configured to work best >with JAWS. I did find an item in the menus for classic menus and things are >now slightly more familiar, but I really have no idea what I'm doing in the >program and things are messed up enough now, so any detailed instructions >would really be appreciated to avoid fouling things up even more. >Thanks, >Margaret >"Joseph Lee" wrote: >Hi Margaret, >1. Script installation: >a. Find the script files (everything) then copy it to clipboard >(CTRL plus c). >b. Go to Start Menu/Programs/JAWS 7.1/Explore/Explore My >Settings. You should land at the location where JAWS has script >files. >c. Press CTRL plus v to paste the script files. >You should restart JAWS before the scripts can take effect. >2. XP Home and JAWS: the information presented here is accurate. >Follow it and you should use JAWS efficiently. >3. File association: this problem is caused by what's called >"file association" issue i.e. to associate a file type with a >program. Go to the program which the wave sound (wav) was >registered as file type (possibly Winamp). Go to the location >where you can see settings for that media player and you should >see an option to change file types. Check to see if wav is >checked. Or you might want to reinstall this media player and it >should work from there. >Cheers, >Joseph >> - Original Message - >>From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: "jaws-users" >Date sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:48:10 -0400 >>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop >>Hi All, >>I went to install some JAWS scripts this afternoon and >discovered that a >>whole slew of items are missing from my XP Home with SP2 desktop. >>The path should be >>C:\Documents and Settings\Margaret\Application Data\Freedom >>Scientific\JAWS\7.10\Settings\enu >>All there is in Margaret is >>Desktop >>Favorites >>My Documents >>Start Menu >>none of which belong there. Applicacation Data is not there and >any number >>of other items. >>Yesterday, I was trying to configure XP for best use with >JAWS since >>some things were still not the way they were on my old hard drive >before my >>machine went to the shop and my tech installed a new hard drive >and programs >>were re-installed and configured. I was trying to follow the >instructions >>in an old post: >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:12 PM >>Subject: Re: jfw 5.1 xp settings >>Here is the info. The link can be found on the jfw lite page >under helpful >>hints, I believe. >>For your convenience though, here is the actual document from >Freedom >>Scientific's web site. >>Windows XP and JAWS >>This topic discusses settings changes we recommend you make when >using JAWS >>in Windows XP Home or Professional. You must be logged in with >>administrative rights to make several of these changes. >>Many of these settings are changed within Control Panel. To open >Control >>Panel, press the WINDOWS KEY to open the Start Menu, move to >Control Panel, >>and press ENTER. Depending on your system settings, Control >Panel either >>opens >>in a separate window, or the Control Panel items open as a >sub-menu. >>We rec
Re: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop
Hi Joseph, I got the files for the scrip in the right place using your instructions. I haven't tried the application yet to see if they "took" since I should be fresh to tackle it. As far as your instructions for JAWS and XP, WMP 11 is the only player installed on the machine. I'm not sure I'm finding the option to change file types and what to do with if I'm in the right place. I did find something about file types under the tools and options. The only thing I've done with WMP 11 is to burn a couple of CD's and that was before the new hard drive was installed and it might need to be configured to work best with JAWS. I did find an item in the menus for classic menus and things are now slightly more familiar, but I really have no idea what I'm doing in the program and things are messed up enough now, so any detailed instructions would really be appreciated to avoid fouling things up even more. Thanks, Margaret "Joseph Lee" wrote: Hi Margaret, 1. Script installation: a. Find the script files (everything) then copy it to clipboard (CTRL plus c). b. Go to Start Menu/Programs/JAWS 7.1/Explore/Explore My Settings. You should land at the location where JAWS has script files. c. Press CTRL plus v to paste the script files. You should restart JAWS before the scripts can take effect. 2. XP Home and JAWS: the information presented here is accurate. Follow it and you should use JAWS efficiently. 3. File association: this problem is caused by what's called "file association" issue i.e. to associate a file type with a program. Go to the program which the wave sound (wav) was registered as file type (possibly Winamp). Go to the location where you can see settings for that media player and you should see an option to change file types. Check to see if wav is checked. Or you might want to reinstall this media player and it should work from there. Cheers, Joseph > - Original Message - >From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "jaws-users" Date sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:48:10 -0400 >Subject: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop >Hi All, >I went to install some JAWS scripts this afternoon and discovered that a >whole slew of items are missing from my XP Home with SP2 desktop. >The path should be >C:\Documents and Settings\Margaret\Application Data\Freedom >Scientific\JAWS\7.10\Settings\enu >All there is in Margaret is >Desktop >Favorites >My Documents >Start Menu >none of which belong there. Applicacation Data is not there and any number >of other items. >Yesterday, I was trying to configure XP for best use with JAWS since >some things were still not the way they were on my old hard drive before my >machine went to the shop and my tech installed a new hard drive and programs >were re-installed and configured. I was trying to follow the instructions >in an old post: >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: jfw 5.1 xp settings >Here is the info. The link can be found on the jfw lite page under helpful >hints, I believe. >For your convenience though, here is the actual document from Freedom >Scientific's web site. >Windows XP and JAWS >This topic discusses settings changes we recommend you make when using JAWS >in Windows XP Home or Professional. You must be logged in with >administrative rights to make several of these changes. >Many of these settings are changed within Control Panel. To open Control >Panel, press the WINDOWS KEY to open the Start Menu, move to Control Panel, >and press ENTER. Depending on your system settings, Control Panel either >opens >in a separate window, or the Control Panel items open as a sub-menu. >We recommend making changes in the following areas: >.. Display Properties >.. Folder Options >.. Start Menu >.. Windows Explorer >.. System Performance >Display Properties >1. From the Control Panel, move to "Display" and press Enter. >2. From the themes combo box, select Windows XP. >3. In the List of backgrounds on the Desktop page, choose Bliss. >4. Set Position to "Stretch". >5. In the Screen Saver combo box on the Screen Saver page, press HOME to >select none. >6. On the Appearance page, set Windows and Buttons to Windows classic style. >7. Set Color Scheme to Windows Standard. >8. Set Font to normal. >9. Close the dialog. >Note: After making these changes, the Display page Themes combo box says >"Modified Theme". >Folder Options >1. From the Control Panel, press ALT+T to go to the Tools menu >2. Press O for Folder Options. >3. From the Tasks radio button group, select Use Windows Classic folders >4. (Optional): >A. On the
[JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop
Hi All, I went to install some JAWS scripts this afternoon and discovered that a whole slew of items are missing from my XP Home with SP2 desktop. The path should be C:\Documents and Settings\Margaret\Application Data\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\7.10\Settings\enu All there is in Margaret is Desktop Favorites My Documents Start Menu none of which belong there. Applicacation Data is not there and any number of other items. Yesterday, I was trying to configure XP for best use with JAWS since some things were still not the way they were on my old hard drive before my machine went to the shop and my tech installed a new hard drive and programs were re-installed and configured. I was trying to follow the instructions in an old post: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: Re: jfw 5.1 xp settings Here is the info. The link can be found on the jfw lite page under helpful hints, I believe. For your convenience though, here is the actual document from Freedom Scientific's web site. Windows XP and JAWS This topic discusses settings changes we recommend you make when using JAWS in Windows XP Home or Professional. You must be logged in with administrative rights to make several of these changes. Many of these settings are changed within Control Panel. To open Control Panel, press the WINDOWS KEY to open the Start Menu, move to Control Panel, and press ENTER. Depending on your system settings, Control Panel either opens in a separate window, or the Control Panel items open as a sub-menu. We recommend making changes in the following areas: . Display Properties . Folder Options . Start Menu . Windows Explorer . System Performance Display Properties 1. From the Control Panel, move to "Display" and press Enter. 2. From the themes combo box, select Windows XP. 3. In the List of backgrounds on the Desktop page, choose Bliss. 4. Set Position to "Stretch". 5. In the Screen Saver combo box on the Screen Saver page, press HOME to select none. 6. On the Appearance page, set Windows and Buttons to Windows classic style. 7. Set Color Scheme to Windows Standard. 8. Set Font to normal. 9. Close the dialog. Note: After making these changes, the Display page Themes combo box says "Modified Theme". Folder Options 1. From the Control Panel, press ALT+T to go to the Tools menu 2. Press O for Folder Options. 3. From the Tasks radio button group, select Use Windows Classic folders 4. (Optional): A. On the View page, move to the Advanced Settings tree view. B. Clear the Hide Extensions For Known File Types check box. C. If you also use screen magnification software, clear the Show pop-up description for folder and desktop items check box. Pop up descriptions often hides the menu item just below any given menu item, making it impossible to visually see the next item in the menu list. D. Move to the Apply to All Folders button and press SPACEBAR. E. Answer Yes to the dialog that comes up to acknowledge this change. 5. Move to the OK button in the Folder Options dialog box and press SPACEBAR to close this dialog box. Start Menu 1. From Control Panel, Move to Taskbar and Start menu and press ENTER. 2. From the Taskbar page, press ALT+G to move to and uncheck Group Similar Taskbar Buttons. 3. Press ALT+H to move to and uncheck the check box for Hide inactive icons. 4. Press CTRL+TAB to move to the Start Menu page. 5. Select Classic start menu. 6. Press ENTER to close this dialog box. Windows Explorer 1. Press WINDOWS KEY+E to open Windows Explorer. 2. Press ALT+V to open the View menu. 3. Select "Arrange Icons by" and press ENTER to open the submenu. 4. Move to the menu item "Name" to arrange by Name, and Press ENTER to select this and close the menus. 5. Repeat steps 2 and 3, and move to the item "Show in Groups." If it is checked, press ENTER to uncheck it and close the menus. 6. Press ALT+T to open the Tools menu. 7. Press O to open the Folder Options Dialog. 8. Press CTRL+TAB to move to the View page. 9. Press SPACEBAR to activate the "Apply to all folders" button, and press SPACEBAR on the YES button to acknowledge this change. 10. Move to the OK button and press SPACEBAR to close this dialog box. System Performance 1. From the Control Panel, move to System and press ENTER to open the System Properties Dialog. 2. Press CTRL+TAB to move to the Advanced page. 3. Press ALT+S to activate the Performance Settings button. The Performance Options Dialog opens. 4. Clear the following check boxes: . Animate Windows when Minimizing and Maximizing. . Slide open Combo Boxes. . Smooth-scroll List Boxes. . Use Visual Styles on Windows and Buttons. 5. Press ENTER to close the Performance Options dialog and return to the System Properties dialog box. 6. Press ENTER to activate the OK button and close the System Properties dialog box. Earlier today, I got another .wav file I download to play when Windows starts instead of the one it had been starting up with. Any suggestions on h
[JAWS-Users] Auto Preview Re: outlook express
I'm having a senior moment-What is auto preview? Anita, did you ever find a solution? Sorry, I don't remember seeing it if you did. Margaret "Denny Huff" wrote: Do you have your auto preview turned on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anita Gluth Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Can someone please tell me why my unread messages no longer say unread? Thanks for any help. Anita Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Q. flaggin messages
I think flag messages might be a bit different from high priority etc. I saved an old post from 2002 from debbie Scales on the old JFWlite list: Rex, here is what it is used for but jaws doesn't recognize the flag at least not in XP with 32 bit color. Flag a mail or news message To flag an e-mail or news message When you receive a message, you can flag it for later reference. List of 2 items . In the main window, click in the flag column next to the message you want to flag. -or- . In the main window, select the message you want to flag and from the Message menu, click Flag Message. list end Notes List of 3 items . You can sort all flagged messages and group them together by clicking the flag icon in the header of the flag column. . You can remove the flag from a message by clicking the flag icon. . You can define a rule that flags certain messages when they are received. list end I don't know if we can use the flag messages feature with the newer versions of JAWS that have come out since the post was written and I think it was still OE 5.x then. I'm behind on my caffeine consumption and haven't experimented. Plus, I haven't tried out JFW 8 yet and don't know how well it works with OE. Margaret "Rick Harmon" wrote: It's just meant to get your attention, like a high priority message I believe. Rick -- Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net and my web Blog at: http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put subscribe in the subject line. - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" Hi, everyone. Simple question, probably. What does flag message mean? Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express
Anita, Could you have accidentally typed Control-Shift-A? It marks all as read. I've done it a time or two and really gotten a surprise. Margaret "David Ferrin" wrote: I don't know yet, but it will be checked in to for sure. David Ferrin - Original Message - From: "Anita Gluth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express Can someone please tell me why my unread messages no longer say unread? Thanks for any help. Anita Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Setting Up Word 2000 to Work Best with JFW
Hi All, Could someone please point me to a source containing instructions for configuring Word 2000 to work best with JAWS on a XP Home computer? Either the JAWS-users page or the Blind-Computing one has some instructions, but they aren't complete. If they are on the FS site, I can't find them. I had a document loaded and was running JAWS 7.1 when JAWS stopped the contents of the lines using down and up arrows. I unloaded JAWS and reloaded it and they worked again, but it was another thing that never happened before IE 7 was installed on the machine. Hopefully, it was a fluke, but I wanted to check that everything is set up properly since it seems all my programs have had to be re-configured so far. I did get an order placed with IE 7 using JFW 7.1, so I'm making progress! Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Setting Up JFW for XP Home & IE 7
Hi All, When my XP Home with SP2 came back from the shop with the new hard drive and fresh install of XP etc. the classic desktop that was there seems to be there again, but there is a different Programs set up and I'm hoping that if I can get it back to the way it was, it might be one less thing my brain has to adjust to and that maybe there aare also some other settings I should make to XP to make it work better with JAWS now that IE 7 is on the machine. I think either the JAWS-users or Blind-Computing home pages have the instructions, but IE 7 is still giving me fits and finding anything there is still cumbersome. I found an old post from 2004 from another list that gives the changes we should make and I wonder if they aare still valid since they were written for JFW 5.1 and I think IE 6. To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: Re: jfw 5.1 xp settings Here is the info. The link can be found on the jfw lite page under helpful hints, I believe. For your convenience though, here is the actual document from Freedom Scientific's web site. Windows XP and JAWS This topic discusses settings changes we recommend you make when using JAWS in Windows XP Home or Professional. You must be logged in with administrative rights to make several of these changes. Many of these settings are changed within Control Panel. To open Control Panel, press the WINDOWS KEY to open the Start Menu, move to Control Panel, and press ENTER. Depending on your system settings, Control Panel either opens in a separate window, or the Control Panel items open as a sub-menu. We recommend making changes in the following areas: • Display Properties • Folder Options • Start Menu • Windows Explorer • System Performance Display Properties 1. From the Control Panel, move to "Display" and press Enter. 2. From the themes combo box, select Windows XP. 3. In the List of backgrounds on the Desktop page, choose Bliss. 4. Set Position to "Stretch". 5. In the Screen Saver combo box on the Screen Saver page, press HOME to select none. 6. On the Appearance page, set Windows and Buttons to Windows classic style. 7. Set Color Scheme to Windows Standard. 8. Set Font to normal. 9. Close the dialog. Note: After making these changes, the Display page Themes combo box says "Modified Theme". Folder Options 1. From the Control Panel, press ALT+T to go to the Tools menu 2. Press O for Folder Options. 3. From the Tasks radio button group, select Use Windows Classic folders 4. (Optional): A. On the View page, move to the Advanced Settings tree view. B. Clear the Hide Extensions For Known File Types check box. C. If you also use screen magnification software, clear the Show pop-up description for folder and desktop items check box. Pop up descriptions often hides the menu item just below any given menu item, making it impossible to visually see the next item in the menu list. D. Move to the Apply to All Folders button and press SPACEBAR. E. Answer Yes to the dialog that comes up to acknowledge this change. 5. Move to the OK button in the Folder Options dialog box and press SPACEBAR to close this dialog box. Start Menu 1. From Control Panel, Move to Taskbar and Start menu and press ENTER. 2. From the Taskbar page, press ALT+G to move to and uncheck Group Similar Taskbar Buttons. 3. Press ALT+H to move to and uncheck the check box for Hide inactive icons. 4. Press CTRL+TAB to move to the Start Menu page. 5. Select Classic start menu. 6. Press ENTER to close this dialog box. Windows Explorer 1. Press WINDOWS KEY+E to open Windows Explorer. 2. Press ALT+V to open the View menu. 3. Select "Arrange Icons by" and press ENTER to open the submenu. 4. Move to the menu item "Name" to arrange by Name, and Press ENTER to select this and close the menus. 5. Repeat steps 2 and 3, and move to the item "Show in Groups." If it is checked, press ENTER to uncheck it and close the menus. 6. Press ALT+T to open the Tools menu. 7. Press O to open the Folder Options Dialog. 8. Press CTRL+TAB to move to the View page. 9. Press SPACEBAR to activate the "Apply to all folders" button, and press SPACEBAR on the YES button to acknowledge this change. 10. Move to the OK button and press SPACEBAR to close this dialog box. System Performance 1. From the Control Panel, move to System and press ENTER to open the System Properties Dialog. 2. Press CTRL+TAB to move to the Advanced page. 3. Press ALT+S to activate the Performance Settings button. The Performance Options Dialog opens. 4. Clear the following check boxes: • Animate Windows when Minimizing and Maximizing. • Slide open Combo Boxes. • Smooth-scroll List Boxes. • Use Visual Styles on Windows and Buttons. 5. Press ENTER to close the Performance Options dialog and return to the System Properties dialog box. 6. Press ENTER to activate the OK button and close the System Properties dialog box. When I pressed the Windows key, I used to land in the start menu and I think JAWS anno
[JAWS-Users] Setting Up OE 6 to Work Best with JAWS
Hi All, All of my OE 6 settings are the default ones with the new install of XP Home and the MS programs on the new hard drive. I found instructions for setting up OE to work best with JAWS on the list's home page, but I'm not finding one item the instructions say to uncheck. The instructions say once in outlook express go to the tools, options menu check when starting go directly to the inbox, and apply your changes. under the view menu select layout and uncheck contacts uncheck the folder bar uncheck the outlook bar uncheck view list uncheck show the preview pane I can't find view list , but there's a check box for Views Bar. Am I right that this should be unchecked? am I just missing view list ? Thanks, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Can JFW 7.0 Work with IE 7?
HiAll, When my tech wiped out my old XP Home hard drive and put in a new hard drive, he re-installed some of the programs such as the MS ones. I had been running IE6 and had JFW 7.0 and 7.1 on it, but hadn't installed 8.0 yet since I was still trying to work out some problems with 7.1. He installed IE 7 on the new hard drive and JAWS 7.0, 7.1 and 8.0 are also now installed. I've had to re-configure OE to my liking and for the best use with JAWS and have run into other interesting surprises, plus trying to get used to a new keyboard with the function keys on top of the qwerty keys. JAWS 7.0 worked better with OE 6 than 7.1 did on the old hard drive and I had hoped maybe I could get JFW 7.0 to work as well with OE to postpone having to learn the new things with IE 7 and JAWS 8, but, so far, 7.0 doesn't seem to be working well with the "new" OE. I'm having trouble re-doing my message rules and what should be unread messages are marked as read among other problems. I may just be tired and everything may not be back to the configurations on the old hard drive, but I thought I remembered that 7.1 was the first JAWS version that worked well with IE 7. Is there any point in trying to get 7.0 to play nicely with OE now that IE 7 is installed? JFW 7.0 and IE 6 had worked fine before the bad problems last week and I've only really wanted to upgrade after JFW 7.0 since I hope to get started with Audible and downloading audio books and my understanding is that Audible requires IE 7 and at least JFW 7.1. Sorry, for the typos-the keyboard isn't cooperating.\ Thanks, Margaret Previously, I wrote: > Hi All, > >My tech doesn't know what happened and he and his other techs spent a > lot of time working on the XP. First with a remote key fix they have and > that didn't work. He had to take the machine to the shop to work on. > Things after my last post went from bad to worse. > > >I think I had asked about suggestions for a corded keyboard board since > I thought the expensive one I had was seven and a half years old and keys > would periodically stop working but I was able to wiggle waggle them and > them getting working again, but I had the feeling the keyboard was on its > last legs. The Insert key on the num pad totally died over the weekend. > The one on the 6 pack helped, but having to do several keystrokes 2 handed > that were normally performed one handed was a royal pain. > >I got a message on boot that the firewall was disabled and, with all > the problems I had performing computer maintenance, I gave up and let my > tech try. > >They couldn't get the PC maintenance to work either, so I don't feel > totally stupid. They spent 10-12 hours trying to solve the validation and > maintenance problems and couldn't. They wiped everything off the hard > drive, installed a new hard drive and gave me a keyboard to try. They > installed IE 7 instead of 6. One good thing is that the old hard drive > was 40 GB and the new one is > 80 GB and the latest version of JAWS 8 is installed in addition to the > other JFW versions I had on the old machine. I stuck with XP. > >The machine was in the shop for several days and I just got it back > this afternoon. > >Thanks to everyone who tried to help with the IE Error message and my > PC maintenance problems last week. > >Kindly forgive any typos spell check doesn't catch. I'm not used to > this new to me keyboard yet and some of the keys don't seem to respond to > JAWS key and 1 for keyboard help. > > Margaret > > > - Original Message - > From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Error Loading IE 6-XP Home > > >> Hi Ricque, >> >>I seem to be in a loop trying to download the file. It seems MS >> has to certify that my copy of XP and/or Office is genuine before it >> will let me download it. It then said something about the genuine >> advantage version having expired and I haven't been able to find out >> how to get an unexpired one yet. I may have messed up since at least >> the first I was asked if I wanted to run "Publisher" I said no since I >> didn't understand that it was needed to run the validation process. >> The expired thing may mean that I've exceeded my allotted attempts. >> I'm hoping I can try again later. >> >>I could swear that I've downloaded the genuine advantage thing >> every time it has come up with updates. The machine is 2 years old >> and the copy XP >> is legal as far as I know.
[JAWS-Users] Error Loading IE 6-XP Home Re: Spybot Found Problem
Flor, I remember that Control-E was a toggle for something in IE about Microsoft and searching, but didn't IE at least load without an error before you did the control-E? I'm getting the Error A file that is required to run Search Companion cannot be found. You may need to run setup. OK when I press my short cut key to load IE 6. When I click on okay, Google.com, my IE home start page loads properly. I did try pressing Control-E with IE loaded as you suggested and I didn't get the error message the next time IE loaded. If I do the toggle again, I do get it, so you may have solved the problem, but I'm not quite sure JAWS 7.0 is saying everything it used to say before I started getting the error message. I've also had problems with my online banking after it started. I tried the banking site again after doing the toggle and still had trouble with the site, but they may be doing their over night updating. I'll try it again when I'm pretty sure they've finished. Thanks, Margaret "Flor Lynch" wrote: Regarding IE6 search, with IE open have you tried ctrl+e to disable it? (that's a toggle.) Maybe you have, but in case you or others didn't know about that. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Spybot Found Problem
Jeffrey, I clicked on fix the selected problem and got Confirmation You are about to remove these entries. Do you want to continue? yes no It might be a fluke, but at one point the screen seems to say something about restoring points. I don't know if it means changing the XP restore ones and I don't want to change them since the Search Companion problem with IE 6 from last week hasn't been fixed and my tech's office said I need to wait for him to come and I haven't gotten a call from him to set up an appointment. Thanks, Margaret "Jeffrey Shockley" wrote: Hi, I would just fix it. It won't hurt anything. I have had a lot like the one you are describing, and fixing them doesn't hurt or effect anything in any way. HTH, Jeffrey Check out my blog! The URL is http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com "You learn something new every day!" "You can do anything if you put your mind to it!" "It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is how we choose to see it." --Doomed Dragon -Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:20 PM To: jaws-users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spybot Found Problem Hi All I'd been running Spybot 1.4 using the auto run method and I think it originally took something like an hour and a half to do its thing. Recently, it seems to have taken less than 10 minutes and I decided to install the JAWS scripts and try running it that way and it found 1 problem Problem Kind Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.FirewallDisableNotify 1 entries Update Donations 1 problems found (23:42) The XP Home firewall shouldn't be running anyway since the firewall is in my router. Should I fix the problem or leave it alone? By the way, has anyone heard if 1.5 is out of Beta yet? Thanks,, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Spybot Found Problem
Hi All I'd been running Spybot 1.4 using the auto run method and I think it originally took something like an hour and a half to do its thing. Recently, it seems to have taken less than 10 minutes and I decided to install the JAWS scripts and try running it that way and it found 1 problem Problem Kind Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.FirewallDisableNotify 1 entries Update Donations 1 problems found (23:42) The XP Home firewall shouldn't be running anyway since the firewall is in my router. Should I fix the problem or leave it alone? By the way, has anyone heard if 1.5 is out of Beta yet? Thanks,, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] PC Maintenance XP Home
Denny, I got the chkdsk /f to work this time. I have egg on my face since I thought I had dutifully cut and pasted the command as it appears on the tips and tricks page, however I have punctuation turned off and a bit of a hearing problem and only got the chkdsk and not the rest of it. I think I got the scan disk to work this time and tried defrag. No luck; I got an error: Microsoft Management Console MMC cannot open the file C:\WINDOWS\system32\dfrg.msc.graphic 580 This may be because the file does not exist, is not an MMC console, or was created by a later version of MMC. This may also be because you do not have sufficient access rights to the file. OK I have administrator rights on the computer. Thanks for any ideas on what I might be messing up now. Margaret "Denny Huff" wrote: Margaret, When you type in, chkdsk /f, or you leaving a space between the chkdsk and the /f? As for the sccan disc, you said that you heard Jaws talking when you did the alt f4. Actually, Jaws shouldn't speak at all until after the scan disc process is completed since Windows doesn't load until it is. It sounds like 1 of a couple of things is happening. One, either you didn't restart your computer after starting the scan disc process, or two, it ran through the process after restart and Windows loaded and you didn't realize it. Do you hear the Windows shut down sound when you do a restart? Denny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 6:08 AM To: jaws-users Subject: [JAWS-Users] PC Maintenance XP Home Hi All, It had been way too long since I performed PC maintenance on this XP Home with SP 2 machine using JAWS 7.0 and all the steps don't come trippingly off my fingers since I had Norton SystemWorks 2005 on my Win 98 machine and on the XP until about March when NSW was up renewal and my understanding that the 2007 versions of Norton products weren't accessible and my tech installed AVG. So, I was used to the Disk Doctor and Speed Disk Utilities with NSW, which is why the XP "Scan Disc" and Defrag haven't come easily. I believe I was able to complete the process using Denny's instructions on the home page for the list, but I ran into problems last night and am hoping I was just too tired when I started the procedures. All went well until I got to Check Disc. Denny's instructions say: 3. Check Disc The check disc should be performed before a scan disc is performed. To do this, go to the start menu and then to, run. When the edit box appears, type in: chkdsk /f and press enter. You will be presented with a dialogue that says, the check disc cannot be performed because the volume is in use. Would you like to perform this the next time your system starts? Just type the letter Y and press enter. Now you will need to shut down any open applications and restart your PC. When it begins to boot up and before Windows starts, your PC will perform a check disc. It will take a few minutes to perform, but when it is finished, Windows will start up normally. When I attempted the steps, XP started the checking process before I had a chance to re-start the machine and I'm just about positive it did the same thing the last time I tried it. The next problem was with scan disk where Denny says: 4. Scan Disc Windows XP doesn’t have an actual scan disc, but it does have something relatively close to it. To run scan disc, go to your desk top and then to, My Computer. If you aren’t using the classic start menu, you might have to go to your start menu and then to My Computer there. Open My Computer and highlight your C drive, sometimes called, Local Disc C. Don’t press enter, just highlight it. Now do an alt enter to bring up the properties. Next do a control tab to the Tools tab. You will be on, errors checking, check now button. Press your spacebar and it will say, Start Button, but don’t press enter yet. Instead, tab to the check boxes and check, automatically fix files system errors and the next check box which is, scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors. Check both of the boxes. Now tab to the start button and press enter. You will be presented with a dialogue saying that the disc check cannot pbe performed because the disc check needs exclusive access to some files. Do you want to schedule a disc check the next time you start Windows? Just press your spacebar on yes. Now tab to OK and press enter. Alt f4 out of the properties and shut down any open applications and restart your PC. Just press your spacebar on yes. Now tab to OK and press enter. Alt f4 out of the properties and shut down any open applications and restart your PC. Does perform the checking process with JAWS silent? Ever
[JAWS-Users] PC Maintenance XP Home
Hi All, It had been way too long since I performed PC maintenance on this XP Home with SP 2 machine using JAWS 7.0 and all the steps don't come trippingly off my fingers since I had Norton SystemWorks 2005 on my Win 98 machine and on the XP until about March when NSW was up renewal and my understanding that the 2007 versions of Norton products weren't accessible and my tech installed AVG. So, I was used to the Disk Doctor and Speed Disk Utilities with NSW, which is why the XP "Scan Disc" and Defrag haven't come easily. I believe I was able to complete the process using Denny's instructions on the home page for the list, but I ran into problems last night and am hoping I was just too tired when I started the procedures. All went well until I got to Check Disc. Denny's instructions say: 3. Check Disc The check disc should be performed before a scan disc is performed. To do this, go to the start menu and then to, run. When the edit box appears, type in: chkdsk /f and press enter. You will be presented with a dialogue that says, the check disc cannot be performed because the volume is in use. Would you like to perform this the next time your system starts? Just type the letter Y and press enter. Now you will need to shut down any open applications and restart your PC. When it begins to boot up and before Windows starts, your PC will perform a check disc. It will take a few minutes to perform, but when it is finished, Windows will start up normally. When I attempted the steps, XP started the checking process before I had a chance to re-start the machine and I'm just about positive it did the same thing the last time I tried it. The next problem was with scan disk where Denny says: 4. Scan Disc Windows XP doesn’t have an actual scan disc, but it does have something relatively close to it. To run scan disc, go to your desk top and then to, My Computer. If you aren’t using the classic start menu, you might have to go to your start menu and then to My Computer there. Open My Computer and highlight your C drive, sometimes called, Local Disc C. Don’t press enter, just highlight it. Now do an alt enter to bring up the properties. Next do a control tab to the Tools tab. You will be on, errors checking, check now button. Press your spacebar and it will say, Start Button, but don’t press enter yet. Instead, tab to the check boxes and check, automatically fix files system errors and the next check box which is, scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors. Check both of the boxes. Now tab to the start button and press enter. You will be presented with a dialogue saying that the disc check cannot pbe performed because the disc check needs exclusive access to some files. Do you want to schedule a disc check the next time you start Windows? Just press your spacebar on yes. Now tab to OK and press enter. Alt f4 out of the properties and shut down any open applications and restart your PC. Just press your spacebar on yes. Now tab to OK and press enter. Alt f4 out of the properties and shut down any open applications and restart your PC. Does perform the checking process with JAWS silent? Everything went okay until I got to It may take as long as an hour for this process to complete, depending on the size of your hard drive and how many errors you have, but be Patient and Windows will restart once the process is complete. I attempted the steps twice leaving more than an hour the first time and more than 4 hours the second time and JAWS wouldn't speak at all either time except for saying ALT-F4 when I tried it. A slightly weird thing is that the Insert key on the num pad hasn't been working since I tried the scan disc and I've rebooted. The insert key on the six pack works and num lock is off. I haven't been able to get a new keyboard since I have had to wiggle waggle keys from time to time to get them to respond and it could be strictly coincidental that the insert key in the num pad isn't responding now. Am I just missing something in Denny's instructions? Thank you, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Fixing Mislabeled Graphic Re: AMessage Status in OEAdvanced Find J 7.1
Hi All, Computer literate sighted assistance hasn't been available and the thing about JAWS 7.1 correctly reporting the number of unread messages, but not saying in the resulting message list view after doing an Advanced Find (Control-shift-F was bugging me. My tech's office has a remote way of looking at my computer and I gave them a call. They said sighted people see unread messages as bolded in both the regular message list view and with the one after doing advanced find. They saw the unread ones as unread and I checked and JAWS says they are bolded. If anyone still has XP Home with SP2,IE 6 and is running JFW 7.1 and Outlook Express 6, could you do a Control-Shift-F from the message list view and see if JAWS says unread for the messages that are unread. The count of unread messages is correct and Control-U lands on an unread message correctly. The regular message list view says unread. I suppose it's a minor thing to be bugged about, but I use Advanced Find a lot every day and it worked properly in previous versions of JAWS. Thanks, Margaret Previously, I wrote: Hi all,, In addition to not saying "Unread," JAWS 7.1 was also not saying "Attachment" in the resulting message list view after doing an Advanced Find (Control-Shift-F) in OE 6 so I decided to try to manually label graphics to see if it solved the problem. I got JFW to say checked and unchecked after Advanced Find which it wasn't doing and the state of the items is correct. I got it to speak "Attachment" when there was one after doing a Control-Shift-F. However, I pressed my luck and thought I had figured out that graphic 22 was supposed to be Unread and labeled it"Unread." A test determined that I blew that one and it did not make JAWS say "Unread" in the resulting message list view. JAWS was saying "Unread" when I routed JAWS to PC in the resulting message list view and I tried getting it to say "graphic 22" again and I was successful. I haven't been able to figure out what graphic 22 is and sighted assistance is not available. JAWS is correctly speaking the number of unread items when I do an Insert-pg down after Control-shift-F, gut it worked properly in JFW 7 and previous versions of JAWS as did the speaking of "Attachment." I remember that, for some reason, Advanced Find is somehow considered to be part of XP Home and is not really part of OE or at least that was the way it was with Win 98. At any rate I seem to be having to configure things like muting the escape key again after hitting Control-Shift-F after I've already done them in OE. I did back up the more than one thousand files in shared files and was thinking that I could replace whatever file has the labeled graphics in Advanced Find with the original, but I don't know if which one it is or if it would even work. I'm running XP Home and IE 6. Any help in not having to uninstall and re-install 7.1 would be appreciated. I've lost count of the number of times I've already done it. Thank you, Margaret Previously, I wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get JAWS 7.1 to my liking and have run into some of the same problems I had with Advanced Find in Outlook Express 6 (Control-Shift-F) as I had when I originally installed it. One is that the number of unread messages resulting from the search is correctly announced with Insert-pg down, but JAWS does not announce "Unread" in the message list view. This worked properly in 7.0 here. I remember that, for some reason, Advanced Find is somehow considered to be part of XP Home and is not really part of OE or at least that was the way it was with Win 98. At any rate I seem to be having to configure things like muting the escape key again after hitting Control-Shift-F after I've already done them in OE. The OS is XP Home with SP 2. Any help in getting "Unread" in the message list view after doing the Advanced Find command would be appreciated. Thanks, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Message Status in OE Advanced Find J 7.1
Hi All, I took a break from getting JFW 7.1 to say "Unread" when there are unread messages in the resultant list view in Outlook Express after doing A control-Shift-F (Advanced Find command). The odd thing is that Insert-Pg Down correctly says the number of unread messages and Control U correctly goes to the next unread message. This worked fine in 7.0 and the last several versions of JAWS. Before I take another try at labeling graphics for this,, I was wondering if anyone has enough vision or a sighted person around who could tell me what sighted people see with "Unread" in the message list view resulting from Advanced Find? For example, I think JAWS "translates" a paper clip to saying attachment. Thanks, Margaret Previously, I wrote: Hi all,, In addition to not saying "Unread," JAWS 7.1 was also not saying "Attachment" in the resulting message list view after doing an Advanced Find (Control-Shift-F) in OE 6 so I decided to try to manually label graphics to see if it solved the problem. I got JFW to say checked and unchecked after Advanced Find which it wasn't doing and the state of the items is correct. I got it to speak "Attachment" when there was one after doing a Control-Shift-F. However, I pressed my luck and thought I had figured out that graphic 22 was supposed to be Unread and labeled it"Unread." A test determined that I blew that one and it did not make JAWS say "Unread" in the resulting message list view. JAWS was saying "Unread" when I routed JAWS to PC in the resulting message list view and I tried getting it to say "graphic 22" again and I was successful. I haven't been able to figure out what graphic 22 is and sighted assistance is not available. JAWS is correctly speaking the number of unread items when I do an Insert-pg down after Control-shift-F, gut it worked properly in JFW 7 and previous versions of JAWS as did the speaking of "Attachment." I remember that, for some reason, Advanced Find is somehow considered to be part of XP Home and is not really part of OE or at least that was the way it was with Win 98. At any rate I seem to be having to configure things like muting the escape key again after hitting Control-Shift-F after I've already done them in OE. I did back up the more than one thousand files in shared files and was thinking that I could replace whatever file has the labeled graphics in Advanced Find with the original, but I don't know if which one it is or if it would even work. I'm running XP Home and IE 6. Any help in not having to uninstall and re-install 7.1 would be appreciated. I've lost count of the number of times I've already done it. Thank you, Margaret Previously, I wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get JAWS 7.1 to my liking and have run into some of the same problems I had with Advanced Find in Outlook Express 6 (Control-Shift-F) as I had when I originally installed it. One is that the number of unread messages resulting from the search is correctly announced with Insert-pg down, but JAWS does not announce "Unread" in the message list view. This worked properly in 7.0 here. I remember that, for some reason, Advanced Find is somehow considered to be part of XP Home and is not really part of OE or at least that was the way it was with Win 98. At any rate I seem to be having to configure things like muting the escape key again after hitting Control-Shift-F after I've already done them in OE. The OS is XP Home with SP 2. Any help in getting "Unread" in the message list view after doing the Advanced Find command would be appreciated. Thanks, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Fixing Mislabeled Graphic Re: AMessage Status inOEAdvanced Find J 7.1
Chris,, Advanced Find in Outlook Express is one of my favorite commands and lets me find all sorts of posts I saved or find things from listserves quickly. From the message list view in OE 6, press Control-Shif-F. JAWS announces Find Message Dialogue and says look in and the name of the folder you are in. Some of the more recent versions of JAWS say some extraneous things here like adding reading only edit that you can get it not to say. If you want to search in an OE folder other than the one you are in, press alt b and you will get the folder list. To search in the folder you are in, keep tabbing to find some of the things you can search for. Tabbing 3 times is the place where you can type in messages from a particular person, part of an e-mail address, etc. Tab again and you get to where you can look for messages to people lists, etc. Another tab brings you to subject if you want to search for any part of what's in the subject field. One more tab is for message if you remember anything in the message body. The next 2 tabs get you to where you can search for messages within a date range, say if you remember the message you're looking for was written between april 1 and June 30 of this year. There's a check box to check if you want to search for attachments. You can search for any combinations of these items and if you search for things in local folders, you can really increase the capability. There are short cut keys too . If you want to search within the folder you started the search with,, alt-r is the one to land you in the from section. Alt-t for To;; Alt-u for subject; Alt-a for message and alt-h for attachment. Hit enter when you've typed in all the items you want to search for and you get a message list view with the results. Hope that helps and you find Advanced Find as useful as I do. Margaret "Chris Hallsworth" wrote: I don't understand this advanced find feature. I typed "a" into the search field, for the fun of it, but there was no "find next button" or similar. What have I done wrong? Thanks! - Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fixing Mislabeled Graphic Re: AMessage Status in OEAdvanced Find J 7.1 > Hi all,, > >In addition to not saying "Unread," JAWS 7.1 was also not saying > "Attachment" in the resulting message list view after doing an > Advanced Find > (Control-Shift-F) in OE 6 so I decided to try to manually label > graphics to see if it solved the problem. > >I got JFW to say checked and unchecked after Advanced Find which > it wasn't doing and the state of the items is correct. I got it to > speak "Attachment" when there was one after doing a Control-Shift-F. > However, I pressed my luck and thought I had figured out that > graphic > 22 was supposed to be Unread and labeled it"Unread." A test > determined that I blew that one and it did not make JAWS say > "Unread" > in the resulting message list view. JAWS was saying "Unread" when I > routed JAWS to PC in the resulting message list view and I tried > getting it to say "graphic 22" again and I was successful. I > haven't > been able to figure out what graphic 22 is and sighted assistance is > not available. > >JAWS is correctly speaking the number of unread items when I do > an > Insert-pg down after Control-shift-F, gut it worked properly in JFW > 7 > and previous versions of JAWS as did the speaking of "Attachment." > > I remember that, for some reason, Advanced Find is somehow > considered > to be part of XP Home and is not really part of OE or at least that > was the way it was with Win 98. At any rate I seem to be having to > configure things like muting the escape key again after hitting > Control-Shift-F after I've already done them in OE. > >I did back up the more than one thousand files in shared files > and > was thinking that I could replace whatever file has the labeled > graphics in Advanced Find with the original, but I don't know if > which > one it is or if it would even work. > >I'm running XP Home and IE 6. > >Any help in not having to uninstall and re-install 7.1 would be > appreciated. I've lost count of the number of times I've already > done > it. > >Thank you, > > Margaret > > Previously, I wrote: > > > > Hi All, > >I'm trying to get JAWS 7.1 to my liking and have run into some of > the same problems I had with Advanced Find in Outlook Express 6 > (Control-Shift-F) as I had when I originally installed it. > >One is th
[JAWS-Users] Fixing Mislabeled Graphic Re: AMessage Status in OE Advanced Find J 7.1
Hi all,, In addition to not saying "Unread," JAWS 7.1 was also not saying "Attachment" in the resulting message list view after doing an Advanced Find (Control-Shift-F) in OE 6 so I decided to try to manually label graphics to see if it solved the problem. I got JFW to say checked and unchecked after Advanced Find which it wasn't doing and the state of the items is correct. I got it to speak "Attachment" when there was one after doing a Control-Shift-F. However, I pressed my luck and thought I had figured out that graphic 22 was supposed to be Unread and labeled it"Unread." A test determined that I blew that one and it did not make JAWS say "Unread" in the resulting message list view. JAWS was saying "Unread" when I routed JAWS to PC in the resulting message list view and I tried getting it to say "graphic 22" again and I was successful. I haven't been able to figure out what graphic 22 is and sighted assistance is not available. JAWS is correctly speaking the number of unread items when I do an Insert-pg down after Control-shift-F, gut it worked properly in JFW 7 and previous versions of JAWS as did the speaking of "Attachment." I remember that, for some reason, Advanced Find is somehow considered to be part of XP Home and is not really part of OE or at least that was the way it was with Win 98. At any rate I seem to be having to configure things like muting the escape key again after hitting Control-Shift-F after I've already done them in OE. I did back up the more than one thousand files in shared files and was thinking that I could replace whatever file has the labeled graphics in Advanced Find with the original, but I don't know if which one it is or if it would even work. I'm running XP Home and IE 6. Any help in not having to uninstall and re-install 7.1 would be appreciated. I've lost count of the number of times I've already done it. Thank you, Margaret Previously, I wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get JAWS 7.1 to my liking and have run into some of the same problems I had with Advanced Find in Outlook Express 6 (Control-Shift-F) as I had when I originally installed it. One is that the number of unread messages resulting from the search is correctly announced with Insert-pg down, but JAWS does not announce "Unread" in the message list view. This worked properly in 7.0 here. I remember that, for some reason, Advanced Find is somehow considered to be part of XP Home and is not really part of OE or at least that was the way it was with Win 98. At any rate I seem to be having to configure things like muting the escape key again after hitting Control-Shift-F after I've already done them in OE. The OS is XP Home with SP 2. Any help in getting "Unread" in the message list view after doing the Advanced Find command would be appreciated. Thanks, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] AMessage Status in OE Advanced Find J 7.1
Hi All, I'm trying to get JAWS 7.1 to my liking and have run into some of the same problems I had with Advanced Find in Outlook Express 6 (Control-Shift-F) as I had when I originally installed it. One is that the number of unread messages resulting from the search is correctly announced with Insert-pg down, but JAWS does not announce "Unread" in the message list view. This worked properly in 7.0 here. I remember that, for some reason, Advanced Find is somehow considered to be part of XP Home and is not really part of OE or at least that was the way it was with Win 98. At any rate I seem to be having to configure things like muting the escape key again after hitting Control-Shift-F after I've already done them in OE. The OS is XP Home with SP 2. Any help in getting "Unread" in the message list view after doing the Advanced Find command would be appreciated. Thanks, Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Backing Up Settings\enu JFW7.1
Flor and All, I admit that I have been more than a tad confused about backing up the script files since FS introduced the new path for the settings\ene back in JFW 6.0 or whenever it was. At least part of my problem may stem from confusion about when things go in "New User" and what goes in "All Users." My tech built my XP Home machine and never changed it to Margaret or whatever and I've gotten different answers on lists about whether he's wrong that it's difficult to do at this point since the machine is more than 2 years old or if it's easily accomplished. The "New User" vs. "Margaret" isn't an issue since I'm stuck with it,, but I looked for old posts I've saved about "Shared Files" and etc. and I still don't really understand it. I'm the only one who uses the machine except when a sighted person helps out with a problem or if it's more serious and my tech is needed. I also have Thou shall back up thine script files before making any changes to thine new version of JAWS tatooed on the back of my hand" since we were warned since JFW 3.x about the dire consequences that could result if there were problems resulting from changind the script files if we didn't back up first. I found the instructions posted on the JFWlite page before JAWS 6.0, so I do what I want to do at least in theory. "Backup Current Scripts Instructions! Synopsis: Instructions on backing up current scripts. Description:Instructions on backing up your current script folder before making changes to existing scripts. Remarks:Before making any changes or additions, you should back up your current scripts, in case something goes wrong with the modification you're attempting to make, causing you to restore the original copy. Example:You want to make the ChangePunctuation script a part of your default script file, but every time you try to compile, your system crashes! What do you do? This is just a hypothetical situation, but a good example of why it would benefit you to have a copy of your default.jss file stored in a safe folder. To get back to where the system is stable again, so you can take another shot at adding that script, you'd only need to copy that single, backed up file back into the script folder, overwriting the one you're having so much trouble with! Here is one means of ensuring you have a safe copy: -- 1) Select My Computer from the Desktop. 2) When presented with the Drive list, arrow down to "C:" and whack Enter. 3) Hit the letter "J", until you find your version of jaws and hit enter. 4) Hit "S", and arrow down to the "Settings" folder and whack Enter. 5) Arrow to your specific language's folder and whack Enter. (For English, it will be "ENU".) You are now in your JAWS Script folder, wher JFW stores all your script files. What we need to do now is -Mark all the files and copy them to the clipboard. -create an empty folder, then move into that folder. -paste the files from the clipboard into this folder. 6) Hit Control+A to "select" all the contents of this folder. 7) Hit Control+C to copy the selected files onto the clipboard. 8) Hit Alt+F to drop the File menu, and arrow down to select "New..." 9) From the resulting menu, select "Folder" as the item to create, and give it a name, such as "Originals", and whack Enter. 10) Arrow down until you reach this new folder, and whack Enter. (Hitting the End key sometimes takes you to the newly-created item, since it is probably at the end of the file list you are in.) 11) Hit Control+V, or select "Paste" from the Edit menu. This should have pasted all the script files into this new folder. 12) Hit Alt+F4 until you are back at the Desktop." I'm wondering if I could create a new folder somewhere well away from either of the paths, copy the one thousand and whatever files and paste them in the newly created folder? Any help in getting what script files belong where or information as to where FS has explained this would be appreciated. I admit to being extremely stupid about this, but I was confused from the get-go when my tech didn't change "New User" to "Margaret" or whatever. Thank you, Margaret "Flor Lynch" wrote: I don't know what you do. Could you not rather make piecemeal changes to JAWS7.10 rather than have to back up everything and then get lost, as it were? I hope you know what you want to do, and how better to do it. Others may offer more illumination. - Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:07 PM Subj
Re: [JAWS-Users] Backing Up Settings\enu JFW7.1
The path for shared settings is C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\7.10\Settings\enu It has 7 folders and well over 1,000 files. Do I create the new folder to copy all the files in as with earlier versions and paste them in that folder and put it here or copy them and paste them in the newly created folder at C:\Documents and Settings\new user\Application Data\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\7.10\Settings\enu Thanks,, Margaret "Flor Lynch" wrote: Go to Shared Settings. there you will find the path you seek along with the many other files. - Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "jaws-users" Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:55 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Backing Up Settings\enu JFW7.1 Hi All,, I have JAWS 7.1 reinstalled again and want to back up the settings\enu so I'll have the original ones before I start configuring 7.1 to my liking. When I go to explore my settings, I get the path as C:\Documents and Settings\new user\Application Data\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\7.10\Settings\enu but instead of the several folders and a bunch of files that I got in settings\enu in earlier versions, I'm only getting Personalized Settings and default .jcf. I looked on the list's home page and old posts I've saved to see how you do it with 7.1, but didn't see anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
