[JAWS-Users] question about message rules and folders.
Hi All, I am trying to create message rules. I can do that successfully, however when I create new folders they seem to always be withing folders such as within the inbox so if I close inbox the folders disappear or they if I put them at the end will go under the junk folder and be within that folder. How do I get it so that they are there own separted thing like inbox outbox and are not part of on of these folders and they are not underneath any of these. Sorry, if this doesn't make sense. I don't know how to explain it. sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] question about message rules and folders.
Wow, it seems to work!! Thanks!! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "David" To: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about message rules and folders. Hello there; when you create new folder, ctrl+shift+e, type name, now tab, and choose, local folders. hope this helps. - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about message rules and folders. Hi All, I am trying to create message rules. I can do that successfully, however when I create new folders they seem to always be withing folders such as within the inbox so if I close inbox the folders disappear or they if I put them at the end will go under the junk folder and be within that folder. How do I get it so that they are there own separted thing like inbox outbox and are not part of on of these folders and they are not underneath any of these. Sorry, if this doesn't make sense. I don't know how to expl ain it. sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] question about message rules and folders.
Also in the same vaine, I check Subject says specific words and then move to folder, and then for example put JAWS-Users as specific subject and then move to JAWS-Users folder? Just want to make sure I"m doing all this right. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "RJ" To: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question about message rules and folders. Go to local folders. One step up from the inbox. Or open local folders - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] question about message rules and folders. Hi All, I am trying to create message rules. I can do that successfully, however when I create new folders they seem to always be withing folders such as within the inbox so if I close inbox the folders disappear or they if I put them at the end will go under the junk folder and be within that folder. How do I get it so that they are there own separted thing like inbox outbox and are not part of on of these folders and they are not underneath any of these. Sorry, if this doesn't make sense. I don't know how to explain it. sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
[JAWS-Users] more on message rules.
Also some of my messages aren't following the rules and are going to my junk folder? Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules.
Oh wow! Okay, thanks for the info. I never used messages rules really, but thought I'd give it a try. Thanks for the help. - Original Message - From: "Don Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules. It is not the fault of the message rules. The filter for Junk Mail is being too aggressive and moving them to the Junk Mail folder before the rules get a chance. I normally press the Applications key on the message wrongly placed in the Junk Mail folder. Arrow Up to the Junk Mail submenu and press the Right Arrow. Select "Add Sender to safe senders list" or "Mark as not junk", sometimes both. These actions help train the Junk Mail filter to not make the same mistakes in the future. Unfortunately, these filters are not smart and they continue to make some mistakes. I used to have a smart Bazian filter plug-in which would learn to filter by phrases used to classify as SPAM or not SPAM. Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "susie Q" Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 1:33 PM To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules. I am having that problum too all my JAWS messages, and my kerdsweel and my stream are going to my junk folder but not their assigned folder! I am using out look, and JAWS eight! susie -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules. Also some of my messages aren't following the rules and are going to my junk folder? Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules.
Hi, I sent this once but it didn't go through. Hopefully it will this time. Anyways, yeah, I kinda figured that so I checked the spelling of each subject before I made the message rules. Thanks for the advice. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules. Hi Sarah; 1 thing to remember when making message rules, is what criteria you choose and how you type it into the proper box when making a message rule. What I meanis, for example; If you are making a message rule for the Jaws-Users list and want to use the criteria from the subject line, in Rule Description, where the subject line contains specific words, what you type here has to be exactly the way it appears in the subject field of the email you recieve from the list. That goes for any punctuation, lower case, upper case letters, & things like that. If you wanted to use the Jaws-Users subject line criteria for a message rule, below is how it should be typed in. Read it character by character to see what I mean. [JAWS-Users] Personally I always leave a space on either end of the criteria. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message ----- From: Sarah Anson To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules. Oh wow! Okay, thanks for the info. I never used messages rules really, but thought I'd give it a try. Thanks for the help. - Original Message - From: "Don Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules. > It is not the fault of the message rules. The filter for Junk Mail is > being too aggressive and moving them to the Junk Mail folder before the > rules get a chance. I normally press the Applications key on the message > wrongly placed in the Junk Mail folder. Arrow Up to the Junk Mail submenu > and press the Right Arrow. Select "Add Sender to safe senders list" or > "Mark as not junk", sometimes both. These actions help train the Junk > Mail filter to not make the same mistakes in the future. Unfortunately, > these filters are not smart and they continue to make some mistakes. I > used to have a smart Bazian filter plug-in which would learn to filter by > phrases used to classify as SPAM or not SPAM. > > Don Marang > > There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any > real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am > working on things that matter. > Dean Kamen > > > -- > From: "susie Q" > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 1:33 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules. > >> I am having that problum too all my JAWS messages, and my kerdsweel and >> my >> stream are going to my junk folder but not their assigned folder! I am >> using >> out look, and JAWS eight! susie >> >> -Original Message- >> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com >> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson >> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:05 AM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] more on message rules. >> >> Also some of my messages aren't following the rules and are going to my >> junk >> folder? >> Sarah A. >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> Send any questions regarding list management to: >> jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> Send any questions regarding list management to: >> jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com >> > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > Send any questions regarding list management to: > jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] More on message rules.
No actually I'm not. I can't send anything from mail on my phone. I can send to my other list that way, but when I reply on the phone it doesn't go through and so then I have to re-write on the computer. Wonder why one list doesn't care where the email is from but this one does? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jenny Bomareto" To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 4:44 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] More on message rules. Sara, you are coming through loud and clear. Glad things are working out for you. Best Wishes, Fan of Mark Chesnutt Jenny Bomareto goldi...@mho.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Responding back.
sure, it is beccaj...@tconl.com Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jenny Bomareto" To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:23 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Responding back. Hey Sarah, If you could send your e-mail address to me that would be really cool. Then we won't clutter up the list. Best Wishes, Fan of Mark Chesnutt Jenny Bomareto goldi...@mho.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] passkeeper
so it stores your passwords and is kind of like an autofill? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] passkeeper On the programs page. It is used to store passwords and other such important items. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Francis E. Khan" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] passkeeper Pardon my ignorance but what is Passkeeper, what does it do and depending on what you tell me, where do I find it? - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] passkeeper Thank you Betsy for saving me some typing. It is such an easy program that often people do not believe that fact. David Ferrin I've reached the age where 'happy hour' is a nap. - Original Message - From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] passkeeper Hi Lenny, Just tab to the second password field. Don't let that blah blah about the little boxes scare you. I left the .ini file in the folder where I unzipped it. When you start entering items, tab through the fields. HTH Recently Lenny McHugh wrote: I downloaded the pass word keeper.First there is an ini file in the zip file where do I place it? Second I attempted to run it and was instructed to enter a password twice. Using the latest jaws 12 on win 7 32 bit I can not read these fields. The tab key goes past them. Using pc or jaws cursor they are not read. f takes me to the first field only. What do I need to do to find the second password area? --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Incoming Skype caller ID?
is skypetalking free? What else does it tell you? Is it hard to install? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Doris and Chris" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Incoming Skype caller ID? You have different options to get the caller ID. If you install the jaws scripts for skype with skypewatch enabled, they should tell you who is calling . You can use an add-on program called "Skypetalking" that will tell you who is calling and a whole lot more than you can configure. If you really just want caller ID announcements and nothing else, you can get a free little program called audioID for skype which Mr. Tekkie Dave has on the homepage of this list, I believe. AudioID uses sapi5 for its announcements but has no way of repeating or reviewing who called if you did not understand the announcement as it came in. hth Doris At 02:39 PM 2/1/2011, you wrote: Hello list, So I finally made the Skype plunge and for the most part I'm getting the hang of it. I'm using the 5.1 version without scripts. One thing I would like to know, is there some sort of caller ID feature or keystroke for Skype to announce whose calling? I saw the hotkeys options in the tools menu, but there wasn't anything there about a caller ID feature. Oh, if it matters, I'm using the latest JFW 12. Thanks.. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
[JAWS-Users] pamela?
Hi all, First, disregard msgs on skype talking. Got ot to work. Now, have installed Pamela. Is there any way to record my own greeting, or do I have to use that one that Pamela has there? Also any tips on how it works? The assistant didn't seem too accessible. I got the scripts downloaded as well. And, I have allowed it to work with skype. Also, does it let me know I have voicemails? Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] pamela?
and another question. Apparently you have to buy pamela. So I just installed it and didn't buy. So do you get a trial version for like so many days? Is there any free answering machine for skype? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:39 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] pamela? Hi all, First, disregard msgs on skype talking. Got ot to work. Now, have installed Pamela. Is there any way to record my own greeting, or do I have to use that one that Pamela has there? Also any tips on how it works? The assistant didn't seem too accessible. I got the scripts downloaded as well. And, I have allowed it to work with skype. Also, does it let me know I have voicemails? Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] pamela?
K, guys, sorry. I should play around more before asking. I figured out Pamela. Thanks, sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] pamela? and another question. Apparently you have to buy pamela. So I just installed it and didn't buy. So do you get a trial version for like so many days? Is there any free answering machine for skype? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:39 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] pamela? Hi all, First, disregard msgs on skype talking. Got ot to work. Now, have installed Pamela. Is there any way to record my own greeting, or do I have to use that one that Pamela has there? Also any tips on how it works? The assistant didn't seem too accessible. I got the scripts downloaded as well. And, I have allowed it to work with skype. Also, does it let me know I have voicemails? Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
[JAWS-Users] Pamela, this time I really do have a question about it:-)
Hi, Do you have to purchase voicemail from skype in order to use the free pamela? If so, are there any that you dont' have to? Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela, this time I really do have a question about it:-)
My pc should have some? That doesn't make sense. So basically, I can use it as an answering machine no matter if I have skype voicemail or not? Cause that's what I'm looking for. I have it all configured and all, just haven't been able to test it since no one has skyped me lately. sarah A - Original Message - From: "Holger Fiallo" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) ?no your pc should have some -Original Message- From: Sarah Anson Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) Hi, Do you have to purchase voicemail from skype in order to use the free pamela? If so, are there any that you dont' have to? Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela, this time I really do have a question about it:-)
Lol! K, thanks! That's what I thought but when I was looking online it kept talking about integrates with skype voicemail and stuff. Very cool! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) Free means exactly what it sounds like. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) My pc should have some? That doesn't make sense. So basically, I can use it as an answering machine no matter if I have skype voicemail or not? Cause that's what I'm looking for. I have it all configured and all, just haven't been able to test it since no one has skyped me lately. sarah A - Original Message - From: "Holger Fiallo" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) ?no your pc should have some -Original Message- From: Sarah Anson Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) Hi, Do you have to purchase voicemail from skype in order to use the free pamela? If so, are there any that you dont' have to? Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela, this time I really do have a question about it:-)
my skype id is beccajfan. Also, not sure how to change this, but my greeting is very loud and I don't know how to make it less loud. I turned down my mic. sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jose Lomeli" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) Give me your skype id and I will test it! JOSE Lomeli Email: joselomel...@lavabit.com Twitter: joselomeli9393 - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) My pc should have some? That doesn't make sense. So basically, I can use it as an answering machine no matter if I have skype voicemail or not? Cause that's what I'm looking for. I have it all configured and all, just haven't been able to test it since no one has skyped me lately. sarah A - Original Message - From: "Holger Fiallo" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) ?no your pc should have some -Original Message- From: Sarah Anson Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pamela,this time I really do have a question about it:-) Hi, Do you have to purchase voicemail from skype in order to use the free pamela? If so, are there any that you dont' have to? Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com Holger Fiallo Kind Regard For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com Looking for call center? Find it at Localpages.com http://click.lavabit.com/q6qrx7npwxat8c54s778erry6udttbk3s41yxde4qqbdxnc8pu6y/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] titorials for twittor
I don't know that there is a tutorial for twitter. what do you want to know? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "korbamukesh" To: Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] titorials for twittor hello, i would like to have the titorial for twittor preferably with reference to jaws specific application. if not, then any titorial of twittor and its accessibility would be of great help. so if anyone has the same i would like to go through it. looking forward for your reply. thanks, mukesh jain. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] titorials for twittor
Lol, that's what I was gonna say when they replied back what specifically they were looking for. Qwitter is awesome!! sarah A. - Original Message - From: "ikramy" To: Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] titorials for twittor go ahead to this website, it is for qwitter, an accessible client for twitter. http://www.qwitter-client.net/ - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] titorials for twittor I don't know that there is a tutorial for twitter. what do you want to know? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "korbamukesh" To: Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] titorials for twittor hello, i would like to have the titorial for twittor preferably with reference to jaws specific application. if not, then any titorial of twittor and its accessibility would be of great help. so if anyone has the same i would like to go through it. looking forward for your reply. thanks, mukesh jain. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
[JAWS-Users] Another Pamela question.
Hi all, Do I have to be online for Pamela to get voicemails? A friend tried it and it just rang and then said ending call. What do I have set wrong? Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
[JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but...
Does anyone know I'm trying to play super egg hunt and it just keeps sayins runtime error 429 "Active X can't create object". I tried unloading jfw like the game suggest, and installing direct X which I already have on my computer, but it does this with all the l-works games. thanks for help and like I said, sorry if OT. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but...
Hi, Yeah, I tried that. Someone from L-works said to install a game from gma games because it seems to fix that problem, so I guess I'm gonna try that. Like your Prov signature:-) Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Wayne Scott" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Have you tried disabling the screen reader? "A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones." - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Does anyone know I'm trying to play super egg hunt and it just keeps sayins runtime error 429 "Active X can't create object". I tried unloading jfw like the game suggest, and installing direct X which I already have on my computer, but it does this with all the l-works games. thanks for help and like I said, sorry if OT. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but...
sorry, will try better next time I pick a subject. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... This particular subject line needs to be shortened by removing sorry if not jfw related but.., and replaced with something more appropriate. I know it's the morning and as often happens sorting it out does become taxing some days. David Ferrin I've reached the age where 'happy hour' is a nap. - Original Message - From: "susie Q" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Sara send me the game and I will try it it is susie here at susi...@cogeco.ca and I will give it a try and email you off list ok? susie -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Does anyone know I'm trying to play super egg hunt and it just keeps sayins runtime error 429 "Active X can't create object". I tried unloading jfw like the game suggest, and installing direct X which I already have on my computer, but it does this with all the l-works games. thanks for help and like I said, sorry if OT. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but...
Thanks, but I got it to work. I installed GMA mindbuster and then re-installed the egg hunt game and it worked:-) But liek I said, thanks for the help! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "susie Q" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Sarah send me an email to susieq2@cogeco with the website where you got the game and I will try it ok? susie -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 5:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Hi, Yeah, I tried that. Someone from L-works said to install a game from gma games because it seems to fix that problem, so I guess I'm gonna try that. Like your Prov signature:-) Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Wayne Scott" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Have you tried disabling the screen reader? "A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones." ----- Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Does anyone know I'm trying to play super egg hunt and it just keeps sayins runtime error 429 "Active X can't create object". I tried unloading jfw like the game suggest, and installing direct X which I already have on my computer, but it does this with all the l-works games. thanks for help and like I said, sorry if OT. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but.is an annoyingsubject line
Actually, let's just end the whole thread, because I now have the game working. Thanks. sarah A. - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but.is an annoyingsubject line Will you people change this subject line already? David Ferrin I've reached the age where 'happy hour' is a nap. - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Thanks, but I got it to work. I installed GMA mindbuster and then re-installed the egg hunt game and it worked:-) But liek I said, thanks for the help! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "susie Q" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Sarah send me an email to susieq2@cogeco with the website where you got the game and I will try it ok? susie -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 5:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Hi, Yeah, I tried that. Someone from L-works said to install a game from gma games because it seems to fix that problem, so I guess I'm gonna try that. Like your Prov signature:-) Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Wayne Scott" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Have you tried disabling the screen reader? "A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones." - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Does anyone know I'm trying to play super egg hunt and it just keeps sayins runtime error 429 "Active X can't create object". I tried unloading jfw like the game suggest, and installing direct X which I already have on my computer, but it does this with all the l-works games. thanks for help and like I said, sorry if OT. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game
Here's the link to the super Egg Hunt game. Also, they have a duck hunt and a few more free ones if you would want them too. All the free ones are on this page. www.l-works.net/free.php - hope this helps, Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Janie Degenshein" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game can you send it along too? Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: susie Q Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 5:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game Hi can you still send me the site link please it sounds like fun? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 3:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Thanks, but I got it to work. I installed GMA mindbuster and then re-installed the egg hunt game and it worked:-) But liek I said, thanks for the help! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "susie Q" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Sarah send me an email to susieq2@cogeco with the website where you got the game and I will try it ok? susie -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 5:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Hi, Yeah, I tried that. Someone from L-works said to install a game from gma games because it seems to fix that problem, so I guess I'm gonna try that. Like your Prov signature:-) Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Wayne Scott" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Have you tried disabling the screen reader? "A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones." - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Does anyone know I'm trying to play super egg hunt and it just keeps sayins runtime error 429 "Active X can't create object". I tried unloading jfw like the game suggest, and installing direct X which I already have on my computer, but it does this with all the l-works games. thanks for help and like I said, sorry if OT. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game
Sure, np. Take Care, Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Janie Degenshein" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game Thanks Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message----- From: Sarah Anson Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 6:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game Here's the link to the super Egg Hunt game. Also, they have a duck hunt and a few more free ones if you would want them too. All the free ones are on this page. www.l-works.net/free.php - hope this helps, Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Janie Degenshein" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game can you send it along too? Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: susie Q Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 5:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game Hi can you still send me the site link please it sounds like fun? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 3:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Thanks, but I got it to work. I installed GMA mindbuster and then re-installed the egg hunt game and it worked:-) But liek I said, thanks for the help! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "susie Q" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Sarah send me an email to susieq2@cogeco with the website where you got the game and I will try it ok? susie -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 5:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Hi, Yeah, I tried that. Someone from L-works said to install a game from gma games because it seems to fix that problem, so I guess I'm gonna try that. Like your Prov signature:-) Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Wayne Scott" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Have you tried disabling the screen reader? "A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones." - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Does anyone know I'm trying to play super egg hunt and it just keeps sayins runtime error 429 "Active X can't create object". I tried unloading jfw like the game suggest, and installing direct X which I already have on my computer, but it does this with all the l-works games. thanks for help and like I said, sorry if OT. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding li
Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game
Awesome!! oh yeah, kitchensinc is good too!! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Wayne Scott" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game I got those form audiogames.net. I have also downloaded a bunch of other ones. Another good one is kitchensinc.net. "A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones." - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game Here's the link to the super Egg Hunt game. Also, they have a duck hunt and a few more free ones if you would want them too. All the free ones are on this page. www.l-works.net/free.php - hope this helps, Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Janie Degenshein" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game can you send it along too? Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: susie Q Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 5:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] To sara the egg hunt game Hi can you still send me the site link please it sounds like fun? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 3:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Thanks, but I got it to work. I installed GMA mindbuster and then re-installed the egg hunt game and it worked:-) But liek I said, thanks for the help! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "susie Q" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Sarah send me an email to susieq2@cogeco with the website where you got the game and I will try it ok? susie -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 5:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Hi, Yeah, I tried that. Someone from L-works said to install a game from gma games because it seems to fix that problem, so I guess I'm gonna try that. Like your Prov signature:-) Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Wayne Scott" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Have you tried disabling the screen reader? "A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones." - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] sorry if not jfw related but... Does anyone know I'm trying to play super egg hunt and it just keeps sayins runtime error 429 "Active X can't create object". I tried unloading jfw like the game suggest, and installing direct X which I already have on my computer, but it does this with all the l-works games. thanks for help and like I said, sorry if OT. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox instead of Internet Explorer?
Sad, I used to love firefox, until it started freezing and crashing on every single page. I update everytime it asks me too, but it just freezes all the time. Lasat year, it didn't do this:-) SArah A. - Original Message - From: "Baracco, Andrew W" To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox instead of Internet Explorer? Flash is handled a lot better with JAWS 12. It still usually doesn't read the button labels, but it does at least let you know that they are there, and that shortcoming is more the responsibility of the site developer than FS. As for installing Flash updates, I have read that folks have trouble doing that, but I haven't had that problem. Andy -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox instead of Internet Explorer? You can try firefox, it also asks to install things as needed to the web page. have you tried updating flash, because they come out about every 3 or 4 months with updates. Also you can turn it off for the pages you view with insert+ shift + v. Just arrow to flash content and turn it off, or you can do it in the configuration file for jaws. Insert +f2, choose configuration center. Then just go to the default and tab to list, html, misc, arrow down and set. At 10:18 PM 2/16/2011, you wrote: I am using Jaws 11 on an XP machine. So far I have stayed with Internet Explorer V7. Adobe Flash has been a problem for me. Some people, on another list, say, Flash is not a problem in Fire Fox. Have any of you tried Fire Fox? Are there Jaws keyboard commands for it?Has Flash troubled you by saying it needed to be installed, even though you had installed it on a previous occasion? How different have you found its commands to be from Internet Explorer 7? Were you able to use Google? Were you able to transfer your favorites? Many thanks in advance for any information! Vicky For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox instead of Internet Explorer?
Oh wow! Lucky. DOn't know why it crashes for me. I started using it because I needed webvism, and then just liked it and kept using it until all the freezing and stuff started happening. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Baracco, Andrew W" To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox instead of Internet Explorer? Gee! I haven't found that to be the case. In fact, the reason I started using Firefox in the first place was because I needed to go to a page that would crash my computer when I tried to access it with IE 8, and it worked just fine with Firefox. Andy -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox instead of Internet Explorer? Sad, I used to love firefox, until it started freezing and crashing on every single page. I update everytime it asks me too, but it just freezes all the time. Lasat year, it didn't do this:-) SArah A. - Original Message - From: "Baracco, Andrew W" To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox instead of Internet Explorer? Flash is handled a lot better with JAWS 12. It still usually doesn't read the button labels, but it does at least let you know that they are there, and that shortcoming is more the responsibility of the site developer than FS. As for installing Flash updates, I have read that folks have trouble doing that, but I haven't had that problem. Andy -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox instead of Internet Explorer? You can try firefox, it also asks to install things as needed to the web page. have you tried updating flash, because they come out about every 3 or 4 months with updates. Also you can turn it off for the pages you view with insert+ shift + v. Just arrow to flash content and turn it off, or you can do it in the configuration file for jaws. Insert +f2, choose configuration center. Then just go to the default and tab to list, html, misc, arrow down and set. At 10:18 PM 2/16/2011, you wrote: I am using Jaws 11 on an XP machine. So far I have stayed with Internet Explorer V7. Adobe Flash has been a problem for me. Some people, on another list, say, Flash is not a problem in Fire Fox. Have any of you tried Fire Fox? Are there Jaws keyboard commands for it?Has Flash troubled you by saying it needed to be installed, even though you had installed it on a previous occasion? How different have you found its commands to be from Internet Explorer 7? Were you able to use Google? Were you able to transfer your favorites? Many thanks in advance for any information! Vicky For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 4?
dunno, but I installed it and now have no webvism. Just a warning. - Original Message - From: "wayne smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:32 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 4? Hello cyber travelers- I know that it has just been released but are any of you beta testers or IT geeks who have found out if the new Firefox is better, the same or worse as far as accessibility? Wayne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 4?
Oh okay. Thanks. Enteresting and good to know. - Original Message - From: "CrisMunoz54" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 4? There was a post on an accessibility blog asking for help from developers/programmers to work on this add-on for it to be compatible with Firefox 4. That the people who put it out need help and don't have the resources to do it and so on. Perhaps people on this list can lend their knowledge. http://www.marcozehe.de/2011/03/03/the-webvisum-extension-needs-you/ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of wayne smith Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 8:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 4? Thanks for the warning. I think I will wait for some of the heavy hitters to take a look and then follow the leaders. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 05:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 4? dunno, but I installed it and now have no webvism. Just a warning. - Original Message - From: "wayne smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:32 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 4? Hello cyber travelers- I know that it has just been released but are any of you beta testers or IT geeks who have found out if the new Firefox is better, the same or worse as far as accessibility? Wayne For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Check boxes on IE 9
I hope jfw 11 works with ie9 b/c I downloaded it. Yeah, save is the same way. To open or save a file, I have to mouse click and route cursors and go to the top to click the buttons. Sarah a. - Original Message - From: "Tan Siew Ling" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:17 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Check boxes on IE 9 Hi Can JAWS 11 work with IE 9 ? I installed IE 9 on my Windows 7 Enterprise laptop this morning. After doing so, I could no longer hear JAWS saying, "Check box unchecked" or "Check box checked". Example : In IE 8 : Check box unchecked Yes 1 of 2 Check box unchecked No 2 of 2 When I press Spacebar on "Yes", it will be Check box checked Yes 1 of 2 In IE 9 : Yes No I had to ask my Microsoft IT colleagues to come downstairs to help me revert to IE 8. However, he told me that eventually all machines in Microsoft will have to switch to IE 9. Is there a way for JAWS to tell me if the words belong to check boxes ? How different is IE 9 compared to IE 8 ? Thank you for any help you can provide. Best Regards Siew Ling For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key
My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default to turn on and off the internet. In order to read the time I must press, the fn key, the f12 and the Jaws key. As you can imagine, while trying to do the links list Jaws key f7, on the internet this is a feat in dexterity! I want to make that the secondary function of the f 12 key and let the Jaws key f12 speak the time and date as it did on my old computer. Is this a possibility? How would one accomplish this task? Thanks in advance, Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key
what? where is windows mobile center? YOu mean mobility center? then where after that are the radio buttons? Wow, if you can chage that it will be nice, but so so wierd because I'm so used to having to try and get all the keys pressed. It'll be wierd not pressing it. But, easier overall. Thanks, Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Windows mobile center, but JAWS won't talk. change the radio buttons of the something from media to function and you're good to go. At 02:04 PM 3/24/2011, you wrote: My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default to turn on and off the internet. In order to read the time I must press, the fn key, the f12 and the Jaws key. As you can imagine, while trying to do the links list Jaws key f7, on the internet this is a feat in dexterity! I want to make that the secondary function of the f 12 key and let the Jaws key f12 speak the time and date as it did on my old computer. Is this a possibility? How would one accomplish this task? Thanks in advance, Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key
I don't have hardware and sound as an option together. Only thing with hardware is add hardware. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default to turn on and off the internet. In order to read the time I must press, the fn key, the f12 and the Jaws key. As you can imagine, while trying to do the links list Jaws key f7, on the internet this is a feat in dexterity! I want to make that the secondary function of the f 12 key and let the Jaws key f12 speak the time and date as it did on my old computer. Is this a possibility? How would one accomplish this task? Thanks in advance, Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key
There is a section that has keyboard settings, but there is nothing under there. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default to turn on and off the internet. In order to read the time I must press, the fn key, the f12 and the Jaws key. As you can imagine, while trying to do the links list Jaws key f7, on the internet this is a feat in dexterity! I want to make that the secondary function of the f 12 key and let the Jaws key f12 speak the time and date as it did on my old computer. Is this a possibility? How would one accomplish this task? Thanks in advance, Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key
Okay, I actually found hardware and sound. You have to be in the regular mode of control pannel not the classic list mode. Then I found adjust common mobility settings but haven't found anything about fn key behavior. Still looking. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default to turn on and off the internet. In order to read the time I must press, the fn key, the f12 and the Jaws key. As you can imagine, while trying to do the links list Jaws key f7, on the internet this is a feat in dexterity! I want to make that the secondary function of the f 12 key and let the Jaws key f12 speak the time and date as it did on my old computer. Is this a possibility? How would one accomplish this task? Thanks in advance, Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key
Thanks, but I have a dell. Not an HP and I don't know that I'm comfortable with going into the main settings. But, I guess that seems to be the only way. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Steve" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Sarah, I really think that people are telling you something that doesn't apply on your HP computer. Here is the info I referenced a couple days ago, and the link to the HP support site is below that. You'll need somebody to read the screen when you go into the Bios settings to change this. Support details On most HP and Compaq notebook PCs, it is necessary to press and hold the function key (fn) while pressing one of the f1 through f12 keys to activate the default functions; such as, increasing or decreasing the brightness of the display, the sound volume, sleep, keyboard lock, etc. On the HP Envy notebooks and other notebooks with advanced BIOS options, the function keys can be configured so that it is not necessary to press and hold the fn key. 1 - Function Keys f1 through f12 2 - Configurable Function key fn Disable fn in the BIOS To disable, or enable, the function key (fn) in the BIOS, do the following steps. list of 6 items 1. Press the power button to turn on the computer. 2. Press the f10 key to open the BIOS setup window. 3. Use the right-arrow or left-arrow keys to navigate to the System Configuration option. 4. Use the up-arrow or down-arrow keys to navigate to the Action Keys Mode option, and then press the enter key to display the Enable / Disable menu. 5. Select the desired mode: list of 2 items nesting level 1 . Disabled : Requires pressing fn key + f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action key. For example, if Disabled , pressing fn + f11 will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing f11 only will minimize and maximize a web browser if open. The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook. . Enabled : Requires pressing only f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action keys. For example, if Enabled , pressing f11 only will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing fn + f11 will minimize and maximize a web browser if open. The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook. list end nesting level 1 6. Press f10 key to save the selection and restart the computer. list end The function key (fn) option can be reset at any time. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c02035108 Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Okay, I actually found hardware and sound. You have to be in the regular mode of control pannel not the classic list mode. Then I found adjust common mobility settings but haven't found anything about fn key behavior. Still looking. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default t
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Yeah, I finally found that hardware and sound lastnight but there was nothing to change the function key as you are saying. So I'm guessing Bios is the only way to do it. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "David" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hello there; If you go into control panel, You will land on the search edit, If you tab one time you may hear, Small or large icons, If you press spacebar, up arrow, you will hear, cadigory, Press enter. Now, if you tab you should find hardware and sound, However, there's no setting to change the function key behavior. At least I haven't found such setting on a dell laptop. Note, if you change to cadigory within the control panel, you won't be able to letter navigate, so you will need to change back to large or small icon. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:06 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key I don't have hardware and sound as an option together. Only thing with hardware is add hardware. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default to turn on and off the internet. In order to read the time I must press, the fn key, the f12 and the Jaws key. As you can imagine, while trying to do the links list Jaws key f7, on the internet this is a feat in dexterity! I want to make that the secondary function of the f 12 key and let the Jaws key f12 speak the time and date as it did on my old computer. Is this a possibility? How would one accomplish this task? Thanks in advance, Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Thanks, what would I do after I press f2? I am kinda nervous to do this, I don't usually mess with stuff like that and I don't want to screw up my machine. Saraah A. - Original Message - From: "David" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hello there; It's my understanding that, This setting does not appear in the Windows Mobility Center On Dell laptops. So, you will need to change the function key behavior through the, BIOS, I believe, If you restart computer, and press F2key, the bios will load, If you need further instructions let me no. Also, you will need sighted assistance for this. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:29 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Okay, I actually found hardware and sound. You have to be in the regular mode of control pannel not the classic list mode. Then I found adjust common mobility settings but haven't found anything about fn key behavior. Still looking. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default to turn on and off the internet. In order to read the time I must press, the fn key, the f12 and the Jaws key. As you can imagine, while trying to do the links list Jaws key f7, on the internet this is a feat in dexterity! I want to make that the secondary function of the f 12 key and let the Jaws key f12 speak the time and date as it did on my old computer. Is this a possibility? How would one accomplish this task? Thanks in advance, Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Well, that would make sense because I have a wireless keyboard that had a button to change. But I haven't found one. Maybe I can have a sighted person look at the keys. Would make sense though. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Aran_A" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi Sarah, I don't know if you have a special key to change from multimedia to normal function keys, but it can not hurt to try to find the key in case you have it on your keyboard. Usually a key that changes the function keys mode is on the upper right of the keyboard. It toggles between the two modes of the function keys. Try to play with all the keys that you don't know what they do. Hopefully you have the toggle button. Best wishes, Aran - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Thanks, but I have a dell. Not an HP and I don't know that I'm comfortable with going into the main settings. But, I guess that seems to be the only way. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Steve" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Sarah, I really think that people are telling you something that doesn't apply on your HP computer. Here is the info I referenced a couple days ago, and the link to the HP support site is below that. You'll need somebody to read the screen when you go into the Bios settings to change this. Support details On most HP and Compaq notebook PCs, it is necessary to press and hold the function key (fn) while pressing one of the f1 through f12 keys to activate the default functions; such as, increasing or decreasing the brightness of the display, the sound volume, sleep, keyboard lock, etc. On the HP Envy notebooks and other notebooks with advanced BIOS options, the function keys can be configured so that it is not necessary to press and hold the fn key. 1 - Function Keys f1 through f12 2 - Configurable Function key fn Disable fn in the BIOS To disable, or enable, the function key (fn) in the BIOS, do the following steps. list of 6 items 1. Press the power button to turn on the computer. 2. Press the f10 key to open the BIOS setup window. 3. Use the right-arrow or left-arrow keys to navigate to the System Configuration option. 4. Use the up-arrow or down-arrow keys to navigate to the Action Keys Mode option, and then press the enter key to display the Enable / Disable menu. 5. Select the desired mode: list of 2 items nesting level 1 . Disabled : Requires pressing fn key + f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action key. For example, if Disabled , pressing fn + f11 will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing f11 only will minimize and maximize a web browser if open. The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook. . Enabled : Requires pressing only f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action keys. For example, if Enabled , pressing f11 only will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing fn + f11 will minimize and maximize a web browser if open. The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook. list end nesting level 1 6. Press f10 key to save the selection and restart the computer. list end The function key (fn) option can be reset at any time. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c02035108 Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Okay, I actually found hardware and sound. You have to be in the regular mode of control pannel not the classic list mode. Then I found adjust common mobility settings but haven't found anything about fn key behavior. Still looking. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husban
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Okay, thanks. Maybe I'll try that tomorrow when I have sighted assistance again. Doesn't sound too complicated and doesn't sound probable that I could screw anything up. lol:-) Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "David" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hello there; As I indicated to you, you will need some sighted assistance to change the FNKey behavior, since your going in to the BIOS, where there's no speech available. If you have sighted help, Then, try the following; 1. Press F2 button when you see Dell Logo at the start up, You'll enter into BIOS. 2. Navigate to Advanced Settings Function Key Behavior. 3. You'll see its default value as MULTIMEDIA KEY FIRST. 4. Change it to FUNCTION KEY FIRST. 5. Save settings by pressing F10, You are done Now you will need to restart laptop. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 2:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Thanks, what would I do after I press f2? I am kinda nervous to do this, I don't usually mess with stuff like that and I don't want to screw up my machine. Saraah A. - Original Message - From: "David" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hello there; It's my understanding that, This setting does not appear in the Windows Mobility Center On Dell laptops. So, you will need to change the function key behavior through the, BIOS, I believe, If you restart computer, and press F2key, the bios will load, If you need further instructions let me no. Also, you will need sighted assistance for this. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:29 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Okay, I actually found hardware and sound. You have to be in the regular mode of control pannel not the classic list mode. Then I found adjust common mobility settings but haven't found anything about fn key behavior. Still looking. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default to turn on and off the internet. In order to read the time I must press, the fn key, the f12 and the Jaws key. As you can imagine, while trying to do the links list Jaws key f7, on the internet this is a feat in dexterity! I want to make that the secondary function of the f 12 key and let the Jaws key f12 speak the time and date as it did on my old computer. Is this a possibility? How would one accomplish this task? Thanks in advance, Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
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I don't have room for one where my laptop is at. Good idea though. - Original Message - From: "RJ" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Make your life easy and use a standard keyboard. That is what I am doing. RJ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key
lol, no problem:-) So many messages come through here and I think I did see one talking about HP. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Steve" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Sarah, I really think that people are telling you something that doesn't apply on your HP computer. Here is the info I referenced a couple days ago, and the link to the HP support site is below that. You'll need somebody to read the screen when you go into the Bios settings to change this. Support details On most HP and Compaq notebook PCs, it is necessary to press and hold the function key (fn) while pressing one of the f1 through f12 keys to activate the default functions; such as, increasing or decreasing the brightness of the display, the sound volume, sleep, keyboard lock, etc. On the HP Envy notebooks and other notebooks with advanced BIOS options, the function keys can be configured so that it is not necessary to press and hold the fn key. 1 - Function Keys f1 through f12 2 - Configurable Function key fn Disable fn in the BIOS To disable, or enable, the function key (fn) in the BIOS, do the following steps. list of 6 items 1. Press the power button to turn on the computer. 2. Press the f10 key to open the BIOS setup window. 3. Use the right-arrow or left-arrow keys to navigate to the System Configuration option. 4. Use the up-arrow or down-arrow keys to navigate to the Action Keys Mode option, and then press the enter key to display the Enable / Disable menu. 5. Select the desired mode: list of 2 items nesting level 1 . Disabled : Requires pressing fn key + f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action key. For example, if Disabled , pressing fn + f11 will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing f11 only will minimize and maximize a web browser if open. The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook. . Enabled : Requires pressing only f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action keys. For example, if Enabled , pressing f11 only will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing fn + f11 will minimize and maximize a web browser if open. The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook. list end nesting level 1 6. Press f10 key to save the selection and restart the computer. list end The function key (fn) option can be reset at any time. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c02035108 Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Okay, I actually found hardware and sound. You have to be in the regular mode of control pannel not the classic list mode. Then I found adjust common mobility settings but haven't found anything about fn key behavior. Still looking. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Anson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key My Dell 1545 is the same way. I haven't found any settings to change this, and it is rather annoying. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Yep, you are right. I had to get my husband to go into the bios and change it. Dixie ~ @-> ~ <-@ ~ -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key No way I can find that is easy on a HP. RJ - Original Message - From: "Dixie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:01 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi all, I just got a new HP 64 bit laptop, with a full keyboard. I purchased the full keyboard computer so I wouldn't have to deal with the laptop configuration. With this new computer though, I need to press the function key to use any of the Jaws f key functions. Is there a way to switch the default on the function keys so that the function key needs to be pressed for the opposite of what it is presently set up to? For example,, the f12 key is presently default to turn on and off the internet. In order to read the time I must press,
Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key
Yeah, didn't think so. And I had my dad go into the bios and under setup there is no advanced system options. Erg... Why do they make this so hard? Why do they put the keys like this in the first place? Sarah A - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key You won't find that key on a laptop. It is the reason for the FN key. At 05:37 PM 3/25/2011, you wrote: Well, that would make sense because I have a wireless keyboard that had a button to change. But I haven't found one. Maybe I can have a sighted person look at the keys. Would make sense though. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Aran_A" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Hi Sarah, I don't know if you have a special key to change from multimedia to normal function keys, but it can not hurt to try to find the key in case you have it on your keyboard. Usually a key that changes the function keys mode is on the upper right of the keyboard. It toggles between the two modes of the function keys. Try to play with all the keys that you don't know what they do. Hopefully you have the toggle button. Best wishes, Aran ----- Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Thanks, but I have a dell. Not an HP and I don't know that I'm comfortable with going into the main settings. But, I guess that seems to be the only way. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Steve" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Sarah, I really think that people are telling you something that doesn't apply on your HP computer. Here is the info I referenced a couple days ago, and the link to the HP support site is below that. You'll need somebody to read the screen when you go into the Bios settings to change this. Support details On most HP and Compaq notebook PCs, it is necessary to press and hold the function key (fn) while pressing one of the f1 through f12 keys to activate the default functions; such as, increasing or decreasing the brightness of the display, the sound volume, sleep, keyboard lock, etc. On the HP Envy notebooks and other notebooks with advanced BIOS options, the function keys can be configured so that it is not necessary to press and hold the fn key. 1 - Function Keys f1 through f12 2 - Configurable Function key fn Disable fn in the BIOS To disable, or enable, the function key (fn) in the BIOS, do the following steps. list of 6 items 1. Press the power button to turn on the computer. 2. Press the f10 key to open the BIOS setup window. 3. Use the right-arrow or left-arrow keys to navigate to the System Configuration option. 4. Use the up-arrow or down-arrow keys to navigate to the Action Keys Mode option, and then press the enter key to display the Enable / Disable menu. 5. Select the desired mode: list of 2 items nesting level 1 . Disabled : Requires pressing fn key + f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action key. For example, if Disabled , pressing fn + f11 will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing f11 only will minimize and maximize a web browser if open. The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook. . Enabled : Requires pressing only f1 through f12 to use the action as indicated on the action keys. For example, if Enabled , pressing f11 only will mute the sound as indicated on the key on this model PC. Alternatively, pressing fn + f11 will minimize and maximize a web browser if open. The action keys may vary depending on the model of notebook. list end nesting level 1 6. Press f10 key to save the selection and restart the computer. list end The function key (fn) option can be reset at any time. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c02035108 Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: "Sarah Anson" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Okay, I actually found hardware and sound. You have to be in the regular mode of control pannel not the classic list mode. Then I found adjust common mobility settings but haven't found anything about fn key behavior. Still looking. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Posey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The function key Just go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Adjust commonly used mobility settings -> Fn Key Behavior Change it to "Function key" -----Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws
[JAWS-Users] Spotify?
Hi all, Just wondering, has anyone in the United States, tried the new music service that recently just launched called spotify? I am finding the desktop client is not the most accessible but it works if you are into mouse clicking and routing cursors. I have to use it with JFW because I don't know how to mouseclick on NVDA, but I am finding I can use the whole program with the clicking and routing. I just wish I didn't have to do all that. Not sure if there are easier solutions, and just looking for people's thoughts if they have tried it. The service seems to have a lot of music on it and seems worth it. Right now I am just using the free version and trying to get used to the desktop client and how to click where i need to. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] no mail?
Hi, How do I set to no mail? Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Hi Elaine!! Its like you took the words right out of my mouth!! I just upgraded the other day to vista and got my new 1545. I was also scared out of upgrading because some people told me bad things too. I agree, you have to upgrade and get on with it. Vista isn't so bad. It like you said isn't much different from xp. It is kinda slower, but you get used to it. Just have a little patience. Not trying to offend anyone either! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Elaine" To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say "don't upgrade, it's not accessible" load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called "experts" I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: "Stewart A Overbey Jr." To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: "Stewart A Overbey Jr." To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Hi, Sarah again! I think if someone already has a computer with xp they should keep it. I would have got xp if it didn't cost so much more then vista. If I already had an xp computer, I wouldn't have upgraded, but since I had to, and didn't have the extra then obviously I had not much choice because I needed a computer before windows seven releases. Anyways, Vista doesn't seem as bad as people make it sound, as I wrote in my last email, but I also think that I would keep xp if I had it and only upgrade to vista if I was buying a new machine. Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Hi Elaine!! Its like you took the words right out of my mouth!! I just upgraded the other day to vista and got my new 1545. I was also scared out of upgrading because some people told me bad things too. I agree, you have to upgrade and get on with it. Vista isn't so bad. It like you said isn't much different from xp. It is kinda slower, but you get used to it. Just have a little patience. Not trying to offend anyone either! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Elaine" To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say "don't upgrade, it's not accessible" load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called "experts" I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: "Stewart A Overbey Jr." To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: "Stewart A Overbey Jr." To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] skype
Hi, I installed skype 4.1 and was having all kinds of trouble finding things and trying to test my sound and stuff. Where do you get the scripts? Thanks. Sarah - Original Message - From: "Mark Driesenga" To: Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype Actually, Skype 4.1 is both out, and the JAWS scripts are now officially out. for those who wish to upgrade, feel free. I'm about to upgrade to the official version of the scripts. Alex Stone wrote: Yes, I'm still avoiding upgrading to it. i know I'm going to have to one day, but I'm not ready to yet! Cheers Alex -- From: "David Ferrin" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:03 PM To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype It's a lot of car to drive version 4.1. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: "Van Der Walt Riana" To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype Hello David, You don't have to remove earlier versions and you can even update from within your presently installed skype's update menu option. The advantage not to uninstall previous version first, is that all your present skype settings, or almost all, are transferred as is and you don't have to re-enter your profile. However, I still find 3.8 less cumbersome to use than version 4, even with the scripts and scripts are also out for 4.1, but the last time I heard, 4.1 was still a beta, although improved on version 4. On the skype topic, can someone please indicate, using jaws 9 and/or 10, how to hide call and chat history from showing and also how to enable it when necessary? I preferably want to do this in version 3.8, but tips to accomplish it in version 4 would also be welcome. Thanks and regards Riana -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ibby Karbhari Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype That is correct it works for me all the time. Kindest Regards, Ibby Karbhari - The Skype lounge moderator To Join: If you know anyone that would like to become a member of this virtual Skype lounge, tell them to send a blank message to: theskypevirtuallounge-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.uk Skype Name: IbbyKar Email: ib...@mmt.demon.co.uk -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: 15 July 2009 17:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] skype Refresh my memory please somebody, it seems to me that there is no need to remove an earlier version of skype before installing a new version. Is this correct? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.doj.gov.za/about_web/disclaimer.htm If you are unable to access the Disclaimer, send an email request for the disclaimer to webmas...@justice.gov.za and we will send you a copy of the Disclaimer. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Jaws update to 10.154
Hi, I have a question. I just got my laptop with Vista and I was trying to update to the jaws 10.154 for the 52 version. After accepting the uac prompt, which jaws didn't read (jaws usually does read that stuff), it downloaded the jaws and then said "Please wait while your system is configured for Jaws." After that it went to about 55 percent and then I got a werfault.exe application exception error, followed by a run.dll one of the same kind. Have no clue what that means. Then after I clicked okay on both of them, it said the update was installed successfully and that Jaws made changes that required me to reboot my computer. It now says I am running the 154 version. Is this okay? Should I go back to the 152 version? Did any of those errors affect the jaws? I didn't get that on my other computer when I updated, and don't even know what werfault.exe is or what those errors mean. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws?
Hi, Is anyone on here using total recorder and jaws successfully with vista? When I had xp I could do soundboard recordings and record songs and stuff with no jaws voice. I was using the user interface (ui) driver. But that driver is no longer needed in vista and if you install it and try to record it won't let you and says you can not use this driver to record. However when I use the other driver that is supplied the Kernnel mode driver then I always get jaws speech in my recordings no mater what I do. This also happened in xp and that is why I used the ui driver. So now I am not sure what to do to record. Totla recorder was a program I paid for and was like one of the best programs I owned. I love using it. If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws?
Hi, I met that I was using jaws and jaws was on, but it didn't come out in my recordings. When i used the ui driver it only recorded the song or whatever and not jaws. Now it always records both the song and jaws. Well, I think it would be hard cause you have to put it on record and then tab back the the internet where your song is and then hit play to record the song. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "dgcnc" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Am I misunderstanding something here? You said you could do the recording without Jaws. Does that mean that you don't really have to have Jaws to do this kind of project? Or, are you meaning that you didn't get Jaws in your recording even though it was on and you were using it? I suspect that is what you mean. But, if you can do it without the help of Jaws, unload it when using Total Recorder and then turn it back on when you are ready to do something else. Greg - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:35 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Hi, Is anyone on here using total recorder and jaws successfully with vista? When I had xp I could do soundboard recordings and record songs and stuff with no jaws voice. I was using the user interface (ui) driver. But that driver is no longer needed in vista and if you install it and try to record it won't let you and says you can not use this driver to record. However when I use the other driver that is supplied the Kernnel mode driver then I always get jaws speech in my recordings no mater what I do. This also happened in xp and that is why I used the ui driver. So now I am not sure what to do to record. Totla recorder was a program I paid for and was like one of the best programs I owned. I love using it. If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws?
Hi Chris, Well, it costs a bit more now, like 17 something. I bought it like in 2000 or 2001 or something. So how do I find out if I am on sterio mix? I don't think my vista machine even has anythbing like that like xp did. Odd... Thanks, Sarah - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Hi Sarah, Sound board mode can still be used in Total Recorder under Vista or later, however you cannot use the stereo mix or whatever your sound card uses. Instead you'll have to use the line in or microphone or whatever. I'm pondering myself whether to get myself a key actually as I love the program too. Maybe I'll treat myself after my re-sits or something . -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Yahoo! Messenger: christopher...@yahoo.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Klango: chrishallsworth ------ From: "Sarah anson" Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:35 AM To: Subject: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Hi, Is anyone on here using total recorder and jaws successfully with vista? When I had xp I could do soundboard recordings and record songs and stuff with no jaws voice. I was using the user interface (ui) driver. But that driver is no longer needed in vista and if you install it and try to record it won't let you and says you can not use this driver to record. However when I use the other driver that is supplied the Kernnel mode driver then I always get jaws speech in my recordings no mater what I do. This also happened in xp and that is why I used the ui driver. So now I am not sure what to do to record. Totla recorder was a program I paid for and was like one of the best programs I owned. I love using it. If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws?
Hi< Ttal Recorder is a program that let's you record stuff off the internet. It is an audio prgram that you can use to record internet progrmams and if configured properly you can use it to record skype calls. But, I like using it to record songs. You can record any stream from the internet such as songs, shows, etc. Sarah - Original Message - From: "Kimsan" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Sarah, What is total recorder? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws?
Hi Gain, Chris. I went on the net and googled sterio mode in vista and it told me to go and show the disabled items and then sterio mode would appear. I followed the directions to click the show disabled button but I still have nothing that says sterio mix. I am assuming that it is inabled somehow because I never get jaws out of my recording with total recorder. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Hi Sarah, Sound board mode can still be used in Total Recorder under Vista or later, however you cannot use the stereo mix or whatever your sound card uses. Instead you'll have to use the line in or microphone or whatever. I'm pondering myself whether to get myself a key actually as I love the program too. Maybe I'll treat myself after my re-sits or something . -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Yahoo! Messenger: christopher...@yahoo.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Klango: chrishallsworth ------ From: "Sarah anson" Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:35 AM To: Subject: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Hi, Is anyone on here using total recorder and jaws successfully with vista? When I had xp I could do soundboard recordings and record songs and stuff with no jaws voice. I was using the user interface (ui) driver. But that driver is no longer needed in vista and if you install it and try to record it won't let you and says you can not use this driver to record. However when I use the other driver that is supplied the Kernnel mode driver then I always get jaws speech in my recordings no mater what I do. This also happened in xp and that is why I used the ui driver. So now I am not sure what to do to record. Totla recorder was a program I paid for and was like one of the best programs I owned. I love using it. If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws?
Hi, Yeah it is pretty cool... Liked it when I could actually use it. NO, it isn't free... You can try a demo but it puts beeps in your recording. The standard edition costs like 17 us dollars and some change now I believe. Not quite sure. I got it in like 2000 or something and it only costs like 12 dollars back then. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Kimsan" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Pretty cool. Is it free? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws?
hmmm. enteresting... Sarah - Original Message - From: "Kimsan" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Thanks, I'm googling right now to see if there is anything cool or different I could do with jaws or my laptop. I know huh that was a very broad statement. For example, I'm looking for a "welcome" message to download so I can have it for when logging into windows. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws?
Hi Chris, Found this on the total recorder website. Wonder if that is why it's not working? Possible problems with Total Recorder's kernel-mode driver - Unable to record a particular application The system mixes audio streams being played before it arrives in the kernel-mode driver. Audio streams being played can only be recorded in mixed form. This is similar to recording from a line such as "Stereo Mix". It is not possible to single out a stream belonging to a particular application as it could be made using a user-mode driver. All appropriate recording parameters (i.e. Record only streams opened after the recording has started and Record only this application) are disabled. Makes some sence. If it's mixing the stream before it goes to the driver then it would mix the jaws in with the stream whereas the user mode driver singled out just the internet stream and didn't record the jaws one? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Hi Sarah, Sound board mode can still be used in Total Recorder under Vista or later, however you cannot use the stereo mix or whatever your sound card uses. Instead you'll have to use the line in or microphone or whatever. I'm pondering myself whether to get myself a key actually as I love the program too. Maybe I'll treat myself after my re-sits or something . -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Yahoo! Messenger: christopher...@yahoo.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Klango: chrishallsworth ------ From: "Sarah anson" Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:35 AM To: Subject: [JAWS-Users] total recorder and vista with jaws? Hi, Is anyone on here using total recorder and jaws successfully with vista? When I had xp I could do soundboard recordings and record songs and stuff with no jaws voice. I was using the user interface (ui) driver. But that driver is no longer needed in vista and if you install it and try to record it won't let you and says you can not use this driver to record. However when I use the other driver that is supplied the Kernnel mode driver then I always get jaws speech in my recordings no mater what I do. This also happened in xp and that is why I used the ui driver. So now I am not sure what to do to record. Totla recorder was a program I paid for and was like one of the best programs I owned. I love using it. If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Palringo?
Hi, This is bery enteresting but I use palringo on my smartphone and thought I'd try it on my computer because the new aim 6.9 seems very clunky and cluttered and I didn't really want it on my computer. Oddly enough, the desktop application doesn't seem to work or be accessible but I use the moble one all the time. Don't understand. Actualy the latest update of the mobile version is kinda complicated but it was working fine. So why doesn't the desktop one work? Anyone use it?Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] palringo again...
Hi all! Never mind about palringo. My phone updated itself to the newest palringo version and that doesn't seem to be accessible either. Doesn't show my contacts or antying so I guess I am out of luck with palringo on my phone and desktop. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Info on jaws laptop settings
Hi, I didn't know it was called the numb lock key. In my laptp it is the caps lock key when I have my keyboard set to laptop. Not trying to confuse anybody. Probably the same thing... Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Mike Wagoner" To: Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Info on jaws laptop settings Thanks lots. Mike Wagoner kb4vks/AAV4CL/nf8e07de - Original Message - From: "Stewart A Overbey Jr." To: Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Info on jaws laptop settings Mike, The biggest thing you need to know is that the Num lock key acts as your JAWS key. Also, the Jaws/numlock+8 is your left mouse, and 9 is right mouse. I'm sure others will provide additional help. Blessings, Stewart A Overbey Jr. - Original Message - From: "Mike Wagoner" To: Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Info on jaws laptop settings It's probably right in front of my nose but I was wondering where to find information on the differences when using the laptop keyboard instead of desktop keyboard for jaws? Is this in the help files? Thanks Mike Wagoner kb4vks/AAV4CL/nf8e07de For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2332 - Release Date: 08/28/09 18:10:00 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] accessible conversion software for dvd?
Hi All! I just got a dell 1545 with Vista home basic. It came with Roxio creator de which seems pretty accessible. HOwever, although my computer came with a dvd burner, the creator de didn't come with any software to burn files to dvd. I can copy dvd's already made but can't make them. So, How would I solve this problem? I know that when a dvd is done it has to have a video_ts folder with files in it. I know I cna't just make a folder named that because it has to have a certain kind of file in it. The files I have are .avi files and .wmv files and such. Is there any free programs that are accessible that would convert them and make a video_ts folder? Then could I just copy the video_ts folder using data under creator de or under windows drag to dvdr/w drive? I tried to just burn the avi as data, but it just put the folder onto a dvd and it only played in my computer not in my dvd player in the living room and therefore I ruined a blank dvd. I know this might be somewhat off-topic, but since I would need an accessible program with jaws I figured it wasn't totally off! Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible conversion software for dvd?
Hi, Tanks tons! And it is accessible? Also after it makes the video_ts folder, do I just tell roxio to make a data c.d. and drag the video_ts folder to the list and hit burn?Thanks,Sarah - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible conversion software for dvd? here's what you need, its called dvd flick and it is a free program to convert .avi .mpg files to dvd it will create the video.ts folder for you that you can then burn to a dvd to create a dvd movie. below is the link for the software: dvdflick_setup_1.3.0.4.exe http://www.sendspace.com/file/5bg1dn Legend has it that on Sunday 8/30/2009 02:11 AM, Sarah anson said: Hi All! I just got a dell 1545 with Vista home basic. It came with Roxio creator de which seems pretty accessible. HOwever, although my computer came with a dvd burner, the creator de didn't come with any software to burn files to dvd. I can copy dvd's already made but can't make them. So, How would I solve this problem? I know that when a dvd is done it has to have a video_ts folder with files in it. I know I cna't just make a folder named that because it has to have a certain kind of file in it. The files I have are .avi files and .wmv files and such. Is there any free programs that are accessible that would convert them and make a video_ts folder? Then could I just copy the video_ts folder using data under creator de or under windows drag to dvdr/w drive? I tried to just burn the avi as data, but it just put the folder onto a dvd and it only played in my computer not in my dvd player in the living room and therefore I ruined a blank dvd. I know this might be somewhat off-topic, but since I would need an accessible program with jaws I figured it wasn't totally off! Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible conversion software for dvd?
Hi Again! Are there scripts or something for dvd flic? It doesn't seem to be reading the screen. Thanks, Sarah - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible conversion software for dvd? here's what you need, its called dvd flick and it is a free program to convert .avi .mpg files to dvd it will create the video.ts folder for you that you can then burn to a dvd to create a dvd movie. below is the link for the software: dvdflick_setup_1.3.0.4.exe http://www.sendspace.com/file/5bg1dn Legend has it that on Sunday 8/30/2009 02:11 AM, Sarah anson said: Hi All! I just got a dell 1545 with Vista home basic. It came with Roxio creator de which seems pretty accessible. HOwever, although my computer came with a dvd burner, the creator de didn't come with any software to burn files to dvd. I can copy dvd's already made but can't make them. So, How would I solve this problem? I know that when a dvd is done it has to have a video_ts folder with files in it. I know I cna't just make a folder named that because it has to have a certain kind of file in it. The files I have are .avi files and .wmv files and such. Is there any free programs that are accessible that would convert them and make a video_ts folder? Then could I just copy the video_ts folder using data under creator de or under windows drag to dvdr/w drive? I tried to just burn the avi as data, but it just put the folder onto a dvd and it only played in my computer not in my dvd player in the living room and therefore I ruined a blank dvd. I know this might be somewhat off-topic, but since I would need an accessible program with jaws I figured it wasn't totally off! Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Ipod and Itunes
Hi, There are two ways to sync songs to your ipod. One is t have them sync automatically and the other is to add them to your music list under the ipod menu that appears after you plug in the ipod. What spacific questions or problems are you having?? Tge sibgs are added to your itunes library and then you sync them to the ipod from there. Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Kimsan" To: Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:56 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Ipod and Itunes Hi, Someone suggested I listen to an instructional Ipod demo on blindcool tech but after listening to it, I still was not able to find the answer to my question of how to put songs onto my Ipod from Itunes. Can someone help? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Ipod and itunes more...
If you auto sync (which I find easier because you don't have to add the songs to another list) you have to have all the songs stay on your computer in your itunes library. If you have more songs on your computer then the ipod can hold this sync feature doesn't work. If you set your ipod to manually add songs to your ipod, then you can delete the songs off your computer but they will still remain on the ipod. But you have to add each song to your ipod music list under the ipod menu. If you autosync and you delete a song from your itunes libary on the computer, the next time you plug in the ipod, te song/(s) will be removed. You can always change the option if you start out with one sync option and decide you want the other. Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible conversion software for dvd?
Hi! Well, I only have capability to create a data c.d. So, I don't use the audio folder that is empty? Then how come every dvd I have ever seen as an empty audio_ts folder in it? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible conversion software for dvd? yeh that's it, the video.ts folder is all you need to create a dvd movie and you do select data or video dvd if the software has that feature. a dvd video is more or less as a data dvd other than using that format, you can't put anything else in the layout because it knows whats allowed for a dvd movie. good luck. Legend has it that on Sunday 8/30/2009 01:09 PM, Sarah anson said: Hi, Tanks tons! And it is accessible? Also after it makes the video_ts folder, do I just tell roxio to make a data c.d. and drag the video_ts folder to the list and hit burn?Thanks,Sarah - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible conversion software for dvd? here's what you need, its called dvd flick and it is a free program to convert .avi .mpg files to dvd it will create the video.ts folder for you that you can then burn to a dvd to create a dvd movie. below is the link for the software: dvdflick_setup_1.3.0.4.exe http://www.sendspace.com/file/5bg1dn Legend has it that on Sunday 8/30/2009 02:11 AM, Sarah anson said: Hi All! I just got a dell 1545 with Vista home basic. It came with Roxio creator de which seems pretty accessible. HOwever, although my computer came with a dvd burner, the creator de didn't come with any software to burn files to dvd. I can copy dvd's already made but can't make them. So, How would I solve this problem? I know that when a dvd is done it has to have a video_ts folder with files in it. I know I cna't just make a folder named that because it has to have a certain kind of file in it. The files I have are .avi files and .wmv files and such. Is there any free programs that are accessible that would convert them and make a video_ts folder? Then could I just copy the video_ts folder using data under creator de or under windows drag to dvdr/w drive? I tried to just burn the avi as data, but it just put the folder onto a dvd and it only played in my computer not in my dvd player in the living room and therefore I ruined a blank dvd. I know this might be somewhat off-topic, but since I would need an accessible program with jaws I figured it wasn't totally off! Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Ipod
Itunes is navigatable with 8.0 but I wouldn't recommend it. Smeone else on this list might have more input but I think I started using itunes with jfw9 and am now using jfw10. The later versions of jaws have more support. Well, if you are totally blind, the nano or the shuffle (newest generations) have voiceover and read the stff to you. All the other ipods you would have to have some sight to use. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Kate Walsh" To: "jaws list group" Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Ipod I'm thinking of getting an ipod so I was wondering which is the best and easiest to use with JAWS 8.0 and how easy is itunes? Thanks in advance. Kate Walsh For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Ipod and itunes more...
Autosync means that you just plug in the ipod and the songs will add themselves and any changes you make t the itunes library are reflected on the ipod. Manual sync means that you have to manually add songs to the ipod, sync it, and manually delete songs from the ipod. Changes in the itunes library are not reflected on the ipod and deleting songs off the itunes library doesn't delete them from the ipod but rather the songs must be deleted through the list that shows when you hook your ipod up to the computer. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Kimsan" To: Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ipod and itunes more... Hi sarah, I actually have over five thousand songs but my Ipod will only hold 2000 songs. My main problem is sinking, I don't know how to put the songs from Itunes to my Ipod. I don't know how to do it manually or audo sink. How do you even set it up for audo sink and what does that mean? I might have the answers, but I thought I would ask all I can from someone who knows more than what I know. Feel free to email me at ksong8...@msn.com if you want to talk off the list. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV
In My apartment we are allowed to have directv and such as long as we purchase renter's. The direct tv remote also has a language btn on it that will turn on sap when it's available so you can get audio described programs. Except for some reason it doesn't work on my locals only on the nonlocals like tnt 245 tcm 256 etc. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV Some of us live in apartment buildings where Satel lite TV is not permitted. I would love to have a satel lite tv receiver but I would be kicked out of this building where I live. We are not aloud to have anything attached to the building at all. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Soner Çoban" To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV Hello folks, Why do you not switch to satelite broadcast rather than cable with a digital tv card and a dish on the roof? I currently use digital tv card and receive the broadcasts from three sats through a very accessible software with Jaws for windows. I think of preparing a podcast regarding this topic actually. -- From: "Albert Cutolo" Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:58 PM To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV Yes, I finally got the chance too read it. I have been trying for years, fighting with our cable company to provide us with the ability to be able too access those dammed on screen menus, but have had no success. I hope that this technology will finally open a door that has been closed too us. If their's a way too do it, I think that we should all send them an email thanking them for trying to develop this project, and send them stories of our frustration in trying too get the cable industry in particular, too listen too our concerns especially when you consider the fact that we who are blind, and listen too movies and other events, pay a monthly subscription service and don't have the same rightsthat people with vision have. - Original Message - From: "Victoria Vaughan" To: Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV Hi Albert, Were you able to read this fantastic article? I sure hope we'll be able to get it and that it will work with JAWS! The article says that RNIB will be carrying Ocean Blue's Software. I went to RNIB's web page and I couldn't find how to request more info on this product. If anyone can figure that out, would you let us know? If this is not yet proper for this list, you can write me offline at: vrvaug...@mailzone.com Many thanks for sharing this exciting information! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Albert Cutolo" To: Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:42 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to locate the following article using jaws 10 with internet explorer 8 Good morning everyone. Someone sent me the following articlefor me to read. However, when I go too that site and try to locate it on the webpage, I'm unable too access it. I've put the search term into the edit box with no success. I've used the jaws find feature pasting all of the correct words which were taken from the title of the article, and have had no success in locating it. I've even tried going through the webpage using the h key too go through by headings. What am i doing wrong here. I'm going to paste all of the rellavantinformation below, so that others on this list can examine it for themselves. http://bit.ly/3O0fIJ Digital TV software provides talking menus for the visually impaired, deaf and elderly by NY Disabil http://bit.ly/3O0fIJ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV
Well, I have the direct tv dvr and dvr remote and it is on of the green buttons just bellow the arrow buttons with the round thing in the middle. I believe when you go down from that round part that there is a like kind of semi-circle thing that has like four or five buttons and it is the third button from the left. I believe. And if there is not any description, it will make a sound and if there is other description like spanish or another language it will play in that language. You just keep hitting that button to scroll through. I don't know why my locals aren't described. I contacted dvs and they said it has to do with how the direct tv locals are going through the sattilite or something. tnt has law and order (not svu or anything just law and order) described and tcm has a lot of movies discribed. Also you can set your dvr to record from a computer and press the buttons at te bottom of the round arrow thing that is like rectangle and then the slect button in the middle of the arrows and then play or use the arrows to scrooll through the stuf on er dvr. Then to del you go back one arrow, the key on the left, and press the little button underneath the arrow kind of on the right side. This stuff is kinda hard to explain. It helps if you can have a sighted person show you the buttons onee, and then you can learn them. Sarah A. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Don Risavy, Jr." To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV What button on the DIRECTV remote is that as have DIRECTV and have had since March. So wonder if my system has the same capability. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV In My apartment we are allowed to have directv and such as long as we purchase renter's. The direct tv remote also has a language btn on it that will turn on sap when it's available so you can get audio described programs. Except for some reason it doesn't work on my locals only on the nonlocals like tnt 245 tcm 256 etc. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV Some of us live in apartment buildings where Satel lite TV is not permitted. I would love to have a satel lite tv receiver but I would be kicked out of this building where I live. We are not aloud to have anything attached to the building at all. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Soner Çoban" To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV Hello folks, Why do you not switch to satelite broadcast rather than cable with a digital tv card and a dish on the roof? I currently use digital tv card and receive the broadcasts from three sats through a very accessible software with Jaws for windows. I think of preparing a podcast regarding this topic actually. -- From: "Albert Cutolo" Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:58 PM To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV Yes, I finally got the chance too read it. I have been trying for years, fighting with our cable company to provide us with the ability to be able too access those dammed on screen menus, but have had no success. I hope that this technology will finally open a door that has been closed too us. If their's a way too do it, I think that we should all send them an email thanking them for trying to develop this project, and send them stories of our frustration in trying too get the cable industry in particular, too listen too our concerns especially when you consider the fact that we who are blind, and listen too movies and other events, pay a monthly subscription service and don't have the same rightsthat people with vision have. - Original Message - From: "Victoria Vaughan" To: Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV Hi Albert, Were you able to read this fantastic article? I sure hope we'll be able to get it and that it will work with JAWS! The article says that RNIB will be carrying Ocean Blue's Software. I went to RNIB's web page and I couldn't find how to request more info on this product. If anyone can figure that out, would you let us know? If this is not yet proper for this list, you can write me offline at: vrvaug...@mailzone.com Many thanks for sharing this exciting information! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Albert Cutolo" To: Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:42 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to locate the following article using jaws
Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV
Thanks! Yeah, that is enteresting. Finding recorded shows in your dvr playlist isn't really hard it's just a little time-consuming if you have a lot of shows on the dvr. That is enteresting, hopefully they will resolve it so all programs are described cause like I said I don't get dvs on my locals. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV I have had DirecTV since 1995. This spring I had pushed them so long about Described Video Service that they provided me a free upgrade to their Internet connected DVR. It has a lot of great features and much of its operation is completely accessible! Scheduling recordings or On Demand downloads from the Internet is fantastic! Of course, remote functions like pausing, fast forward over commercials, and switching to DVS are completely accessible as well. Unfortunately, there are a few key areas that are not! The biggest failure is selecting a recorded show to watch from "My Playlist". Anything beyond watching the last recorded show can be difficult. The same good / bad story with Described Video Service (DVS)! The FCC started a working group this summer to resolve technical issues with DVS after the conversion to digital. DirecTV has a representative at these meetings, Robert Gabrielli. These meetings are open on the web to the public. DirecTV seems to be holding back and I don't buy their technical arguments for not providing transmission of all shows which have DVS available! Let DirecTV and your cable providers that you are interested. I have some information on these topics on a crude website. I have not updated it lately or my JAWS Scripts associated with DirecTV. The Word document I wrote to describe the functions and placement of the buttons should be very helpful! I will try to update these pages in the next few days. http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/DVS.html DirecTV person for DVS and Closed Captioning - (310) 964-5068 Gabrielli, Robert M To follow the FCC proceedings: -- Audio/video of the first meeting (May 18) is archived at the following link: http://www.fcc.gov/realaudio/publicforums.html -- As with the first meeting, we will endeavor to stream live future public meetings, at the following link: http://www.fcc.gov/realaudio/ -- A transcript of the first meeting in Word and PDF, and general information on the Working Group, are available at the following link: http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/cac/ Michael J. Jacobs Legal Advisor to the Chief Consumer and Governmental Affairs Bureau Federal Communications Commission 445 12th Street, SW, Room 5-C737 Washington, DC 20554 [phone] (202) 418-2859 [fax] (202) 418-6531 Michael Jacobs Feel free to send me any questions off list at donald.mar...@gmail.com Don Marang ----- Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV Well, I have the direct tv dvr and dvr remote and it is on of the green buttons just bellow the arrow buttons with the round thing in the middle. I believe when you go down from that round part that there is a like kind of semi-circle thing that has like four or five buttons and it is the third button from the left. I believe. And if there is not any description, it will make a sound and if there is other description like spanish or another language it will play in that language. You just keep hitting that button to scroll through. I don't know why my locals aren't described. I contacted dvs and they said it has to do with how the direct tv locals are going through the sattilite or something. tnt has law and order (not svu or anything just law and order) described and tcm has a lot of movies discribed. Also you can set your dvr to record from a computer and press the buttons at te bottom of the round arrow thing that is like rectangle and then the slect button in the middle of the arrows and then play or use the arrows to scrooll through the stuf on er dvr. Then to del you go back one arrow, the key on the left, and press the little button underneath the arrow kind of on the right side. This stuff is kinda hard to explain. It helps if you can have a sighted person show you the buttons onee, and then you can learn them. Sarah A. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Don Risavy, Jr." To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Talking Digital TV What button on the DIRECTV remote is that as have DIRECTV and have had since March. So wonder if my system has the same capability. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk." Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press enter. hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then ctrl+end to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should hear it say "buy love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say "Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am assuming then you press enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through the whole album. If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just using that artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi everyone, I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released a new version of iTunes, iTunes 9. Has anyone downloaded this and had any success, particularly in the iTunes Store? I did update and now I'm trying to figure out how to use the thing. Thanks, Michael For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
Hi, I think the podcast they did was when itunes first came out. I was able to buy songs fine with the last version 8 that I had before this new update. Thanks for the help. sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Holger Fiallo" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Freedomscientific. did a casting on iTune and about using the store and how to get music. Do not recall the month but if you go their web and check their shows will find it. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk." Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press enter. hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then ctrl+end to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should hear it say "buy love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say "Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am assuming then you press enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through the whole album. If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just using that artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi everyone, I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released a new version of iTunes, iTunes 9. Has anyone downloaded this and had any success, particularly in the iTunes Store? I did update and now I'm trying to figure out how to use the thing. Thanks, Michael For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the version that was released before 9.0 then it would take you like maybe five mins to sign up. How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I uninstall itunes and reinstall old version, won't that delete my library? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I installed iTunes 9 yesterday. I am not familiar with the iTunes layout and operation yet. It seems fairly complicated. I was having trouble using iTunes 9 and saw others were having difficulty too. So I decided to revert to a version known to work. At least until I learned how to get around in iTunes. With a little searching, I found the following official Apple download link for iTunes 8.2.1: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL928 It took me 3 hours to sign up for an iTunes account, even with version 9! What is the deal with edit boxes and combo boxes in iTunes? Is copy and paste illegal? Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes pretty well with JAWS 8. But Kim, do not download the latest version of iTunes, especially if you have an older JAWS. I would try looking for an iTunes version 8 from a website like www.oldversion.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS go to apple.com and go to iTune and download. Regarding jaws do not know. probably. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? And how is it used and also downloaded. If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. Kim Kelly ----- Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk." Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press enter. hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then ctrl+end to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should hear it say "buy love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say "Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am assuming then you press enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through the whole album. If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just using that artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi everyone, I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released a new version of iTunes, iTunes 9. Has anyone downloaded this and had any success, particularly in the iTunes Store? I did update and now I'm trying to figure out how to use the thing. Thanks, Michael For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
The songs depend on what's popular. Most are .99 and some are 1.29 both prices do not include your sales tax. Music videos are like 1.99 or something and movies are different prices. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Gee, I will do that. I really like old version it has a lot of neat downloads. By the way, how much are the songs and such? Hope not to much. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes pretty well with JAWS 8. But Kim, do not download the latest version of iTunes, especially if you have an older JAWS. I would try looking for an iTunes version 8 from a website like www.oldversion.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS go to apple.com and go to iTune and download. Regarding jaws do not know. probably. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? And how is it used and also downloaded. If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. Kim Kelly ----- Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk." Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press enter. hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then ctrl+end to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should hear it say "buy love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say "Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am assuming then you press enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through the whole album. If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just using that artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi everyone, I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released a new version of iTunes, iTunes 9. Has anyone downloaded this and had any success, particularly in the iTunes Store? I did update and now I'm trying to figure out how to use the thing. Thanks, Michael For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
that is because you hadn't tabbed enough. You have to keep going and eventually it will say something else besides link. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi Sarah, Thanks for replying--I wasn't even having that amount of success. I was just pressing tab after searching the store and all JAWS said was "link" every time. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:43 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk." Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press enter. hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then ctrl+end to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should hear it say "buy love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say "Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am assuming then you press enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through the whole album. If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just using that artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi everyone, I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released a new version of iTunes, iTunes 9. Has anyone downloaded this and had any success, particularly in the iTunes Store? I did update and now I'm trying to figure out how to use the thing. Thanks, Michael For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
What do you mean by how is it used? Need to be more spacific. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? And how is it used and also downloaded. If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk." Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press enter. hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then ctrl+end to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should hear it say "buy love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say "Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am assuming then you press enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through the whole album. If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just using that artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi everyone, I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released a new version of iTunes, iTunes 9. Has anyone downloaded this and had any success, particularly in the iTunes Store? I did update and now I'm trying to figure out how to use the thing. Thanks, Michael For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
thanks!! - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Go into your iTunes folder and copy the "iTunes Library.itl" file to your clipboard and put it somewhere. Then when you do manage to get the older iTunes installed, paste it over the existing iTunesLibrary.itl file it will create...unless your library is already there in iTunes first. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the version that was released before 9.0 then it would take you like maybe five mins to sign up. How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I uninstall itunes and reinstall old version, won't that delete my library? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I installed iTunes 9 yesterday. I am not familiar with the iTunes layout and operation yet. It seems fairly complicated. I was having trouble using iTunes 9 and saw others were having difficulty too. So I decided to revert to a version known to work. At least until I learned how to get around in iTunes. With a little searching, I found the following official Apple download link for iTunes 8.2.1: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL928 It took me 3 hours to sign up for an iTunes account, even with version 9! What is the deal with edit boxes and combo boxes in iTunes? Is copy and paste illegal? Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes pretty well with JAWS 8. But Kim, do not download the latest version of iTunes, especially if you have an older JAWS. I would try looking for an iTunes version 8 from a website like www.oldversion.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS go to apple.com and go to iTune and download. Regarding jaws do not know. probably. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? And how is it used and also downloaded. If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk." Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press enter. hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then ctrl+end to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should hear it say "buy love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say "Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am assuming then you press enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through the whole album. If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just using that artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi everyone, I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released a new version of iTunes, iTunes 9. Has anyone downloaded this and had any success, particularly in the iTunes Store? I did update and now I'm trying to figure out how to use the thing. Thanks, Michael For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
seems to be the same with jaws. I was able to play songs and such just couldn't figure out the store. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Baracco, Andrew W" To: Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Window Eyes 7.1 will work with iTunes 9 except for the iTunes store. Andy -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Apparently, folks using windowEyes with iTunes 9 are having the same set of problems as JAWS users. - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS interesting thing, when I was running around the apple pages looking at the accessible pages. i came across itunes info. it stated would work with GW micros wineyes, but said nothing about jaws. And that was the latest version. At 06:30 AM 9/12/2009, you wrote: As far as I know iTunes can be used with JAWS 7 and higher. You can get it from itunes.com. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Yahoo! Messenger: christopher...@yahoo.com Klango: chrishallsworth -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of kim kelly Sent: 12 September 2009 9:30 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? And how is it used and also downloaded. If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > Hi, > I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from > the > store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to > listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. > You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type > something > like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like > "She's > got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a > boyfriend > now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love > Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love > drunk." > Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press > enter. > hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then > ctrl+end to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should > hear > it say "buy love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will > say > "Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am > assuming > then you press enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you > through the whole album. > If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just > using > that artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store. > Sarah A. > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Hansen" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released a new >> version of iTunes, iTunes 9. Has anyone downloaded this and had >> any >> success, particularly in the iTunes Store? I did update and now >> I'm >> trying to figure out how to use the thing. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Michael >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090911-0, 11/09/2009 Tested on: 12/09/2009 11:13:59 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. _ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090911-0, 11/09/2009 Tested on: 12/09/2009 11:30:49 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Hi, I have another question about itunes. If I uninstall it to go back to itunes 8, won't it remove my itunes folder where all my music is at? Also, all over the apple website, it is claiming that itunes 9.0 is fully accessibale. They say to use window eyes that is not much different from Jaws. So, if apple is claiming it's accessible then how come the itunes store isn't accessible. I mean they are saying on there website that the store is easier designed for the visually impaired. Is it just that we don't know how to use the store? I mean if they are claiming itunes 9 is accessible then it should be. I really don't wanna switch back unless I have to. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Go into your iTunes folder and copy the "iTunes Library.itl" file to your clipboard and put it somewhere. Then when you do manage to get the older iTunes installed, paste it over the existing iTunesLibrary.itl file it will create...unless your library is already there in iTunes first. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the version that was released before 9.0 then it would take you like maybe five mins to sign up. How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I uninstall itunes and reinstall old version, won't that delete my library? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I installed iTunes 9 yesterday. I am not familiar with the iTunes layout and operation yet. It seems fairly complicated. I was having trouble using iTunes 9 and saw others were having difficulty too. So I decided to revert to a version known to work. At least until I learned how to get around in iTunes. With a little searching, I found the following official Apple download link for iTunes 8.2.1: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL928 It took me 3 hours to sign up for an iTunes account, even with version 9! What is the deal with edit boxes and combo boxes in iTunes? Is copy and paste illegal? Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes pretty well with JAWS 8. But Kim, do not download the latest version of iTunes, especially if you have an older JAWS. I would try looking for an iTunes version 8 from a website like www.oldversion.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS go to apple.com and go to iTune and download. Regarding jaws do not know. probably. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? And how is it used and also downloaded. If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk." Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press enter. hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then ctrl+end to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should hear it say "buy love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say "Buy Two is better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am assuming then you press enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through the whole album. If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just using that artist/album as an example on how to use t
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Well, that's not how it sounded on the website, but okay thanks. Sucky. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Baracco, Andrew W" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I think they are referring to the mac. Andy -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:17 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I have another question about itunes. If I uninstall it to go back to itunes 8, won't it remove my itunes folder where all my music is at? Also, all over the apple website, it is claiming that itunes 9.0 is fully accessibale. They say to use window eyes that is not much different from Jaws. So, if apple is claiming it's accessible then how come the itunes store isn't accessible. I mean they are saying on there website that the store is easier designed for the visually impaired. Is it just that we don't know how to use the store? I mean if they are claiming itunes 9 is accessible then it should be. I really don't wanna switch back unless I have to. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Go into your iTunes folder and copy the "iTunes Library.itl" file to your clipboard and put it somewhere. Then when you do manage to get the older iTunes installed, paste it over the existing iTunesLibrary.itl file it will create...unless your library is already there in iTunes first. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the version that was released before 9.0 then it would take you like maybe five mins to sign up. How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I uninstall itunes and reinstall old version, won't that delete my library? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I installed iTunes 9 yesterday. I am not familiar with the iTunes layout and operation yet. It seems fairly complicated. I was having trouble using iTunes 9 and saw others were having difficulty too. So I decided to revert to a version known to work. At least until I learned how to get around in iTunes. With a little searching, I found the following official Apple download link for iTunes 8.2.1: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL928 It took me 3 hours to sign up for an iTunes account, even with version 9! What is the deal with edit boxes and combo boxes in iTunes? Is copy and paste illegal? Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes pretty well with JAWS 8. But Kim, do not download the latest version of iTunes, especially if you have an older JAWS. I would try looking for an iTunes version 8 from a website like www.oldversion.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS go to apple.com and go to iTune and download. Regarding jaws do not know. probably. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? And how is it used and also downloaded. If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's got a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend now." If you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love dr
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Okay, thanks! Not realy fair that mac users have no probs with the app, but kinda is because that's what the app was originally built for. Guess I'll have to do the switching back to the last version before this because it was accessible. The only thing that seems inaccessable to me, is the preview songs in the store because the jaws mouseover commands won't work and that's how you preview a song. Everything else seems to work. I can find and buy a song without listening to it, and I can play my music although it takes a little getting used to. I guess I could jus preview a song somewhere else and just make sure I'm clicking the righ name of the song when I buy. Then I wouldn't have to switch. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS It is accessible using a mac with voice over, but on windows with wineyes or jaws expect some parts not to be accessible. That is the fault of the screen readers and what they support. At 06:17 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote: Hi, I have another question about itunes. If I uninstall it to go back to itunes 8, won't it remove my itunes folder where all my music is at? Also, all over the apple website, it is claiming that itunes 9.0 is fully accessibale. They say to use window eyes that is not much different from Jaws. So, if apple is claiming it's accessible then how come the itunes store isn't accessible. I mean they are saying on there website that the store is easier designed for the visually impaired. Is it just that we don't know how to use the store? I mean if they are claiming itunes 9 is accessible then it should be. I really don't wanna switch back unless I have to. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Go into your iTunes folder and copy the "iTunes Library.itl" file to your clipboard and put it somewhere. Then when you do manage to get the older iTunes installed, paste it over the existing iTunesLibrary.itl file it will create...unless your library is already there in iTunes first. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the version that was released before 9.0 then it would take you like maybe five mins to sign up. How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I uninstall itunes and reinstall old version, won't that delete my library? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I installed iTunes 9 yesterday. I am not familiar with the iTunes layout and operation yet. It seems fairly complicated. I was having trouble using iTunes 9 and saw others were having difficulty too. So I decided to revert to a version known to work. At least until I learned how to get around in iTunes. With a little searching, I found the following official Apple download link for iTunes 8.2.1: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL928 It took me 3 hours to sign up for an iTunes account, even with version 9! What is the deal with edit boxes and combo boxes in iTunes? Is copy and paste illegal? Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes pretty well with JAWS 8. But Kim, do not download the latest version of iTunes, especially if you have an older JAWS. I would try looking for an iTunes version 8 from a website like www.oldversion.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS go to apple.com and go to iTune and download. Regarding jaws do not know. probably. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? And how is it used and also downloaded. If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff fr
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
Well, then how come it works on the mac. Don't you I mean they have to program voiceover. How can something work with one screen reader and not another? Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS It is also the fault of the programmers who do not write cstandard code that can be accessed by screen readers. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS It is accessible using a mac with voice over, but on windows with wineyes or jaws expect some parts not to be accessible. That is the fault of the screen readers and what they support. At 06:17 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote: Hi, I have another question about itunes. If I uninstall it to go back to itunes 8, won't it remove my itunes folder where all my music is at? Also, all over the apple website, it is claiming that itunes 9.0 is fully accessibale. They say to use window eyes that is not much different from Jaws. So, if apple is claiming it's accessible then how come the itunes store isn't accessible. I mean they are saying on there website that the store is easier designed for the visually impaired. Is it just that we don't know how to use the store? I mean if they are claiming itunes 9 is accessible then it should be. I really don't wanna switch back unless I have to. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Go into your iTunes folder and copy the "iTunes Library.itl" file to your clipboard and put it somewhere. Then when you do manage to get the older iTunes installed, paste it over the existing iTunesLibrary.itl file it will create...unless your library is already there in iTunes first. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the version that was released before 9.0 then it would take you like maybe five mins to sign up. How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I uninstall itunes and reinstall old version, won't that delete my library? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I installed iTunes 9 yesterday. I am not familiar with the iTunes layout and operation yet. It seems fairly complicated. I was having trouble using iTunes 9 and saw others were having difficulty too. So I decided to revert to a version known to work. At least until I learned how to get around in iTunes. With a little searching, I found the following official Apple download link for iTunes 8.2.1: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL928 It took me 3 hours to sign up for an iTunes account, even with version 9! What is the deal with edit boxes and combo boxes in iTunes? Is copy and paste illegal? Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes pretty well with JAWS 8. But Kim, do not download the latest version of iTunes, especially if you have an older JAWS. I would try looking for an iTunes version 8 from a website like www.oldversion.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS go to apple.com and go to iTune and download. Regarding jaws do not know. probably. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: "kim kelly" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws? And how is it used and also downloaded. If some one can let me know i would appreciate it. Kim Kelly - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hi, I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to listen to the songs. Like, to preview them. You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something like
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
Hmmm. Enteresting...So what do you mean by reversion to form windows? Tey are trying to make itunes 9.0 look more like a windows program? And by apple giving stuff to third party, you mean someone else designes he programs and then apple puts there name on them? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS The basic operating systems are very different. To program for accessibility in one environment does not mean that it will be programmed correctly for another. Apple, it seems to me, has a history of pushing development of solutions to third parties. VoiceOver is a departure from this approach, but it feels as if their approach to the changes in Itunes 9 is a reversion to form for Windows based programs. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Well, then how come it works on the mac. Don't you I mean they have to program voiceover. How can something work with one screen reader and not another? Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS It is also the fault of the programmers who do not write cstandard code that can be accessed by screen readers. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS It is accessible using a mac with voice over, but on windows with wineyes or jaws expect some parts not to be accessible. That is the fault of the screen readers and what they support. At 06:17 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote: Hi, I have another question about itunes. If I uninstall it to go back to itunes 8, won't it remove my itunes folder where all my music is at? Also, all over the apple website, it is claiming that itunes 9.0 is fully accessibale. They say to use window eyes that is not much different from Jaws. So, if apple is claiming it's accessible then how come the itunes store isn't accessible. I mean they are saying on there website that the store is easier designed for the visually impaired. Is it just that we don't know how to use the store? I mean if they are claiming itunes 9 is accessible then it should be. I really don't wanna switch back unless I have to. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Go into your iTunes folder and copy the "iTunes Library.itl" file to your clipboard and put it somewhere. Then when you do manage to get the older iTunes installed, paste it over the existing iTunesLibrary.itl file it will create...unless your library is already there in iTunes first. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the version that was released before 9.0 then it would take you like maybe five mins to sign up. How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I uninstall itunes and reinstall old version, won't that delete my library? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I installed iTunes 9 yesterday. I am not familiar with the iTunes layout and operation yet. It seems fairly complicated. I was having trouble using iTunes 9 and saw others were having difficulty too. So I decided to revert to a version known to work. At least until I learned how to get around in iTunes. With a little searching, I found the following official Apple download link for iTunes 8.2.1: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL928 It took me 3 hours to sign up for an iTunes account, even with version 9! What is the deal with edit boxes and combo boxes in iTunes? Is copy and paste illegal? Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes pretty well with JAWS 8. But Kim, do not download the latest version of iTunes, especially if you have an older JAWS. I would try looking for an iTunes version 8 from a website like www.oldversion.
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No, I don't hthink there is much left to discuss. It all makes sense. That is why no blind people used to use the mac because they made screenreaders like outspoken that weren't very good and didn't do as much as jaws did. All very enteresting. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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I aggree, but I think the list is wanting to put an end to this discussion now. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS partially right, they really don't care if the windows version is accessible. There version on the mac is and that gets around all the 508 stuff. the accessibility is there for windows. Just most of the screen readers don't use it. Saritech has made say to go useable for it. So that shows it can be done. But just like most software. they only make what they want accessible not what we use. At 04:08 PM 9/16/2009, you wrote: Prio to the development of VoiceOver, Apple took no steps towards making their computers accessible. Rather, they relied on third party developers to write programs for accessibility. This is similar to how Microsoft has interfaced with screen reader developers. However, Microsoft and companies like Freedom Scientific and GW Micro have tended to work more closely together than Apple and the previous developers of screen readers for Apple computers. When the last of these third party developers announced that it would no longer be developing or upgrading its screen reading program, Apple needed to address the void that would be created. It needed to do so, because of increasing criticism of its hands off policy and because it needed to have its products accessible to meet contracting requirements for many governemental entities. At least in part, that is why Apple undertook development of VoiceOver. Before the development of VoiceOver, Apple wanted to attract those who used Windows to its Ipod products. That is why it developed both a Mac version and eventually a Windows version. Again there were many motives, but much had to do with the economics of the music industry. By reverting to form, in this instance, I suggest that with respect othe Windows version of Itunes, apple is seeking to force the screen reader developers to play ball their way rather than building a program/site that conforms readily to Windows standard controls and structures. Why they are doing this, I don't have a clue. I think that if you'd like to continue this discussion, we've reached the point where it should go off list I thank the moderators indulgence to this point. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hmmm. Enteresting...So what do you mean by reversion to form windows? Tey are trying to make itunes 9.0 look more like a windows program? And by apple giving stuff to third party, you mean someone else designes he programs and then apple puts there name on them? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > The basic operating systems are very different. To program for > accessibility in one environment does not mean that it will be > programmed > correctly for another. > > Apple, it seems to me, has a history of pushing development of > solutions > to third parties. VoiceOver is a departure from this approach, but it > feels as if their approach to the changes in Itunes 9 is a reversion to > form for Windows based programs. > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah > anson > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:31 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > Well, then how come it works on the mac. Don't you I mean they have to > program voiceover. How can something work with one screen reader and > not > another? > Sarah A > > - Original Message - > From: "Blackwell, Clifford" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS > > >> It is also the fault of the programmers who do not write cstandard >> code >> that can be accessed by screen readers. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com >> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:18 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS >> >> It is accessible using a mac with voice over, but on windows with >> wineyes or jaws expect some parts not to be accessible. That is the >> fault of the screen readers and what they support. >&g
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So I should use system access? Thanks for telling me this, because noone else has, and I was going to downgrade back to the last version. I just hadn't yet, because I was dreadding the task. Why wouldn't itunes eight read my library just because I upgraded? I am not trying to keep this thread going. If you want to write off list that is fine. And Tim, I sent you a message earlier. Guess my question was answered. No need to reply. Thanks, Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Something you might want to know before you do that: System Access/System Access to Go now works with the iTunes Store. Also...I tried downgrading and it couldn't read my library because it had been created with a newer version of iTunes. Once I upgraded again the file was fine. On 9/16/09, Flor Lynch wrote: There is no JAWS for the Mac, nor is there likely to be. Those same people who coded iTunes 9.0 (for windows) knew (or would have known, if they looked at the history of the iTunes application - which they should have) how iTunes 8 was made accessible to *Windows* screen-readers. I suspect that iTunes 9 will, eventually, be made accessible to Windows screen-readers. How soon that will be, is another question. - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS here is how, voice over is built into the op. Windows based readers are all third party add-ons. if voice over crashes it don't stop the app, it just starts over. When windows readers crash its mostly a reboot. now all programs for the mac have to be built to use voice over or they don't get approved by mac. Anyone can write software for windows and not even think about it being accessible. At 02:30 PM 9/16/2009, you wrote: Well, then how come it works on the mac. Don't you I mean they have to program voiceover. How can something work with one screen reader and not another? Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS It is also the fault of the programmers who do not write cstandard code that can be accessed by screen readers. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS It is accessible using a mac with voice over, but on windows with wineyes or jaws expect some parts not to be accessible. That is the fault of the screen readers and what they support. At 06:17 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote: Hi, I have another question about itunes. If I uninstall it to go back to itunes 8, won't it remove my itunes folder where all my music is at? Also, all over the apple website, it is claiming that itunes 9.0 is fully accessibale. They say to use window eyes that is not much different from Jaws. So, if apple is claiming it's accessible then how come the itunes store isn't accessible. I mean they are saying on there website that the store is easier designed for the visually impaired. Is it just that we don't know how to use the store? I mean if they are claiming itunes 9 is accessible then it should be. I really don't wanna switch back unless I have to. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Go into your iTunes folder and copy the "iTunes Library.itl" file to your clipboard and put it somewhere. Then when you do manage to get the older iTunes installed, paste it over the existing iTunesLibrary.itl file it will create...unless your library is already there in iTunes first. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the version that was released before 9.0 then it would take you like maybe five mins to sign up. How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I uninstall itunes and reinstall old version, won't that delete my library? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I installed iTunes 9 yesterday. I am not familiar with the iTunes layout and operation yet. It seems fairly complicated. I was having trouble using iTunes 9 and saw others were having difficulty too. So I decided to rev
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I tried the system access. It seems to be working exactly the same as jaws when I am browsing the itunes store. It won't let me mouseover a song, so I don't know how you're supposed to be previewing it. It is probably me it just seems that the itunes is workign the same as it was in jaws. It's not reading link link link over and over towards the beginning of the page, but other then that it's about the same. Maybe i'm doing or have something set wrong. Also, I know this is unjaws related, but where'd the put the free on itunes page? thanks, sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Prio to the development of VoiceOver, Apple took no steps towards making their computers accessible. Rather, they relied on third party developers to write programs for accessibility. This is similar to how Microsoft has interfaced with screen reader developers. However, Microsoft and companies like Freedom Scientific and GW Micro have tended to work more closely together than Apple and the previous developers of screen readers for Apple computers. When the last of these third party developers announced that it would no longer be developing or upgrading its screen reading program, Apple needed to address the void that would be created. It needed to do so, because of increasing criticism of its hands off policy and because it needed to have its products accessible to meet contracting requirements for many governemental entities. At least in part, that is why Apple undertook development of VoiceOver. Before the development of VoiceOver, Apple wanted to attract those who used Windows to its Ipod products. That is why it developed both a Mac version and eventually a Windows version. Again there were many motives, but much had to do with the economics of the music industry. By reverting to form, in this instance, I suggest that with respect othe Windows version of Itunes, apple is seeking to force the screen reader developers to play ball their way rather than building a program/site that conforms readily to Windows standard controls and structures. Why they are doing this, I don't have a clue. I think that if you'd like to continue this discussion, we've reached the point where it should go off list I thank the moderators indulgence to this point. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hmmm. Enteresting...So what do you mean by reversion to form windows? Tey are trying to make itunes 9.0 look more like a windows program? And by apple giving stuff to third party, you mean someone else designes he programs and then apple puts there name on them? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS The basic operating systems are very different. To program for accessibility in one environment does not mean that it will be programmed correctly for another. Apple, it seems to me, has a history of pushing development of solutions to third parties. VoiceOver is a departure from this approach, but it feels as if their approach to the changes in Itunes 9 is a reversion to form for Windows based programs. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Well, then how come it works on the mac. Don't you I mean they have to program voiceover. How can something work with one screen reader and not another? Sarah A - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS It is also the fault of the programmers who do not write cstandard code that can be accessed by screen readers. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS It is accessible using a mac with voice over, but on windows with wineyes or jaws expect some parts not to be accessible. That is the fault of the screen readers and what they support. At 06:17 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote: Hi, I have another question about itunes. If I uninstall it to go back to itunes 8, won't it remove my itunes folder where all my music is at? Also, all over the apple
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Hi, Yes, I have tried that. Am using a laptop though. I think the commands are the same cause I tried a moseover on a sample freedom scientific page and it works fine. BAut, in itunes it doesn't. 8.2 is very easy. And, if you hit enter on a song it will play the preview unlike version 9. 8.2 I had no probs with using jaws 10. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am just getting started with iTunes. Even version 8.2.1 seems hard to get it to do what I want to do at this point. I noticed that you mention that you should be able to get a preview in the store by performing a mouseover. When JAWS is focused on a song in the store, have you attempted the "activate mouseover" keystroke? On a desktop keyboard, that would be the Control + Insert + NumPad Enter. I am not sure how this differs from hovering the mouse over an object by routing the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor with the Insert + NumPad Minus. I would try both. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I tried the system access. It seems to be working exactly the same as jaws when I am browsing the itunes store. It won't let me mouseover a song, so I don't know how you're supposed to be previewing it. It is probably me it just seems that the itunes is workign the same as it was in jaws. It's not reading link link link over and over towards the beginning of the page, but other then that it's about the same. Maybe i'm doing or have something set wrong. Also, I know this is unjaws related, but where'd the put the free on itunes page? thanks, sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Prio to the development of VoiceOver, Apple took no steps towards making their computers accessible. Rather, they relied on third party developers to write programs for accessibility. This is similar to how Microsoft has interfaced with screen reader developers. However, Microsoft and companies like Freedom Scientific and GW Micro have tended to work more closely together than Apple and the previous developers of screen readers for Apple computers. When the last of these third party developers announced that it would no longer be developing or upgrading its screen reading program, Apple needed to address the void that would be created. It needed to do so, because of increasing criticism of its hands off policy and because it needed to have its products accessible to meet contracting requirements for many governemental entities. At least in part, that is why Apple undertook development of VoiceOver. Before the development of VoiceOver, Apple wanted to attract those who used Windows to its Ipod products. That is why it developed both a Mac version and eventually a Windows version. Again there were many motives, but much had to do with the economics of the music industry. By reverting to form, in this instance, I suggest that with respect othe Windows version of Itunes, apple is seeking to force the screen reader developers to play ball their way rather than building a program/site that conforms readily to Windows standard controls and structures. Why they are doing this, I don't have a clue. I think that if you'd like to continue this discussion, we've reached the point where it should go off list I thank the moderators indulgence to this point. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hmmm. Enteresting...So what do you mean by reversion to form windows? Tey are trying to make itunes 9.0 look more like a windows program? And by apple giving stuff to third party, you mean someone else designes he programs and then apple puts there name on them? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS The basic operating systems are very different. To program for accessibility in one environment does not mean that it will be programmed correctly for another. Apple, it seems to me, has a history of pushing development of solutions to third parties. VoiceOver is a departure from this approach, but it feels as if their approach to the changes in Itunes 9 is a reversion to form for Windows based programs. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
Hi, No, I mean why wouldn' the library read if I downgraded back to itunes 8.2. Hmm. Will have to find out the mouse over command for say to go! thanks, Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Yes, in short, System Access (and System Access to Go) is the only thing that works with iTunes right now. I don't know what the SA "mouse over" command is, but still...it works. The format kind of reminds me of AmazonMP3, which is fine. Also, I don't know why the library won't read if it has been upgraded previously--perhaps because the file contains "upgraded" data? On 9/17/09, Sarah anson wrote: Hi, Yes, I have tried that. Am using a laptop though. I think the commands are the same cause I tried a moseover on a sample freedom scientific page and it works fine. BAut, in itunes it doesn't. 8.2 is very easy. And, if you hit enter on a song it will play the preview unlike version 9. 8.2 I had no probs with using jaws 10. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am just getting started with iTunes. Even version 8.2.1 seems hard to get it to do what I want to do at this point. I noticed that you mention that you should be able to get a preview in the store by performing a mouseover. When JAWS is focused on a song in the store, have you attempted the "activate mouseover" keystroke? On a desktop keyboard, that would be the Control + Insert + NumPad Enter. I am not sure how this differs from hovering the mouse over an object by routing the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor with the Insert + NumPad Minus. I would try both. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I tried the system access. It seems to be working exactly the same as jaws when I am browsing the itunes store. It won't let me mouseover a song, so I don't know how you're supposed to be previewing it. It is probably me it just seems that the itunes is workign the same as it was in jaws. It's not reading link link link over and over towards the beginning of the page, but other then that it's about the same. Maybe i'm doing or have something set wrong. Also, I know this is unjaws related, but where'd the put the free on itunes page? thanks, sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Prio to the development of VoiceOver, Apple took no steps towards making their computers accessible. Rather, they relied on third party developers to write programs for accessibility. This is similar to how Microsoft has interfaced with screen reader developers. However, Microsoft and companies like Freedom Scientific and GW Micro have tended to work more closely together than Apple and the previous developers of screen readers for Apple computers. When the last of these third party developers announced that it would no longer be developing or upgrading its screen reading program, Apple needed to address the void that would be created. It needed to do so, because of increasing criticism of its hands off policy and because it needed to have its products accessible to meet contracting requirements for many governemental entities. At least in part, that is why Apple undertook development of VoiceOver. Before the development of VoiceOver, Apple wanted to attract those who used Windows to its Ipod products. That is why it developed both a Mac version and eventually a Windows version. Again there were many motives, but much had to do with the economics of the music industry. By reverting to form, in this instance, I suggest that with respect othe Windows version of Itunes, apple is seeking to force the screen reader developers to play ball their way rather than building a program/site that conforms readily to Windows standard controls and structures. Why they are doing this, I don't have a clue. I think that if you'd like to continue this discussion, we've reached the point where it should go off list I thank the moderators indulgence to this point. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hmmm. Enteresting...So what do you mean by reversion to form windows? Tey are trying to make itunes 9.0 look more like a windows program? And by apple giving stuff to third party, you mean someone e
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
what is the difference between system access and system access to go? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Michael Hansen" To: Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Yes, in short, System Access (and System Access to Go) is the only thing that works with iTunes right now. I don't know what the SA "mouse over" command is, but still...it works. The format kind of reminds me of AmazonMP3, which is fine. Also, I don't know why the library won't read if it has been upgraded previously--perhaps because the file contains "upgraded" data? On 9/17/09, Sarah anson wrote: Hi, Yes, I have tried that. Am using a laptop though. I think the commands are the same cause I tried a moseover on a sample freedom scientific page and it works fine. BAut, in itunes it doesn't. 8.2 is very easy. And, if you hit enter on a song it will play the preview unlike version 9. 8.2 I had no probs with using jaws 10. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Donald Marang" To: Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I am just getting started with iTunes. Even version 8.2.1 seems hard to get it to do what I want to do at this point. I noticed that you mention that you should be able to get a preview in the store by performing a mouseover. When JAWS is focused on a song in the store, have you attempted the "activate mouseover" keystroke? On a desktop keyboard, that would be the Control + Insert + NumPad Enter. I am not sure how this differs from hovering the mouse over an object by routing the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor with the Insert + NumPad Minus. I would try both. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS I tried the system access. It seems to be working exactly the same as jaws when I am browsing the itunes store. It won't let me mouseover a song, so I don't know how you're supposed to be previewing it. It is probably me it just seems that the itunes is workign the same as it was in jaws. It's not reading link link link over and over towards the beginning of the page, but other then that it's about the same. Maybe i'm doing or have something set wrong. Also, I know this is unjaws related, but where'd the put the free on itunes page? thanks, sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Prio to the development of VoiceOver, Apple took no steps towards making their computers accessible. Rather, they relied on third party developers to write programs for accessibility. This is similar to how Microsoft has interfaced with screen reader developers. However, Microsoft and companies like Freedom Scientific and GW Micro have tended to work more closely together than Apple and the previous developers of screen readers for Apple computers. When the last of these third party developers announced that it would no longer be developing or upgrading its screen reading program, Apple needed to address the void that would be created. It needed to do so, because of increasing criticism of its hands off policy and because it needed to have its products accessible to meet contracting requirements for many governemental entities. At least in part, that is why Apple undertook development of VoiceOver. Before the development of VoiceOver, Apple wanted to attract those who used Windows to its Ipod products. That is why it developed both a Mac version and eventually a Windows version. Again there were many motives, but much had to do with the economics of the music industry. By reverting to form, in this instance, I suggest that with respect othe Windows version of Itunes, apple is seeking to force the screen reader developers to play ball their way rather than building a program/site that conforms readily to Windows standard controls and structures. Why they are doing this, I don't have a clue. I think that if you'd like to continue this discussion, we've reached the point where it should go off list I thank the moderators indulgence to this point. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS Hmmm. Enteresting...So what do you mean by reversion to form windows? Tey are trying to make itunes 9.0 look more like a windows program? And by apple giving stuff to third party, you mean someone else designes he programs and then apple puts there name on them? Sarah A. - Origin
[JAWS-Users] ringtone program?
Hi All, If this is a forbidden question, please let me know. I don't want to start something I shouldn't and am not trying to be "elligal" as some put it with copyright material. Does anyone know of a program, preerably free, that works with jaws that can make ringtones from mp3s? I used to use total recorder and make clips and then upload them to a ringtone maker site that would compress the file to make it smaller, but the ringtones still sounded really really good. However, in vista, you cna't use total recorder like you could in xp, and so you can't record anything in total recorder without picking up jaws speech. I know some free sites where you can download ringtones, but they don't always have what I want. These same sites have ringtone makers but they use the flash player to drag the slider to the part of the song you want and are not accessible. I would buy ringtones, but the process to buy ringtones through verizon is completely inaccessible, at least in my experience. It is also impossible to buy ringback tones and/or set them up without sited help. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program?
Because, I don't know how to select a portion of a song and copy it. I used to have to play the song in a different player like wmedia and record the clip using total recorder and then save it. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program? What do you mean you can't use Total Recorder in Vista? This is news to me as I can successfully use the program with Vista and now 7. Yes, it can pick up the JAWS voice, but how about this. Open an mP3 file, for example, do a bit of editing with it, i.e., selecting and copying a chunk, then pasting it into a new MP3 file, call it whatever, and use that as a ringtone. You don't even need a license to do this as the noise is only inserted into recordings made in Total Recorder. Just a thought. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Yahoo! Messenger: christopher...@yahoo.com Klango: chrishallsworth -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: 20 September 2009 6:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program? Hi All, If this is a forbidden question, please let me know. I don't want to start something I shouldn't and am not trying to be "elligal" as some put it with copyright material. Does anyone know of a program, preerably free, that works with jaws that can make ringtones from mp3s? I used to use total recorder and make clips and then upload them to a ringtone maker site that would compress the file to make it smaller, but the ringtones still sounded really really good. However, in vista, you cna't use total recorder like you could in xp, and so you can't record anything in total recorder without picking up jaws speech. I know some free sites where you can download ringtones, but they don't always have what I want. These same sites have ringtone makers but they use the flash player to drag the slider to the part of the song you want and are not accessible. I would buy ringtones, but the process to buy ringtones through verizon is completely inaccessible, at least in my experience. It is also impossible to buy ringback tones and/or set them up without sited help. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090918-0, 18/09/2009 Tested on: 20/09/2009 3:12:32 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. _ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090918-0, 18/09/2009 Tested on: 20/09/2009 4:49:28 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program?
Well, I am kinda scared to give it a look now!! I don't want a virus. Is it safe? Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program? Hi Sarah, Give this a look: http://www.blind-computing.com/audio/pages/ringtone_maker.html It is accessible with Jaws. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: "Sarah anson" To: Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:32 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program? Hi All, If this is a forbidden question, please let me know. I don't want to start something I shouldn't and am not trying to be "elligal" as some put it with copyright material. Does anyone know of a program, preerably free, that works with jaws that can make ringtones from mp3s? I used to use total recorder and make clips and then upload them to a ringtone maker site that would compress the file to make it smaller, but the ringtones still sounded really really good. However, in vista, you cna't use total recorder like you could in xp, and so you can't record anything in total recorder without picking up jaws speech. I know some free sites where you can download ringtones, but they don't always have what I want. These same sites have ringtone makers but they use the flash player to drag the slider to the part of the song you want and are not accessible. I would buy ringtones, but the process to buy ringtones through verizon is completely inaccessible, at least in my experience. It is also impossible to buy ringback tones and/or set them up without sited help. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Ring Tone maker and other programs!
Wow!! that doesn't sound good! Wouldn't want that virus. Glad I didn't visit the site yet.How do you insure that a file has no virus. I always assume that if it's called like .mp3 or something it wouldn't have a virus. I scanned a file once and it the virus scanner said it was free and there were no viruses and so I opened it and it jacked up my whole computer and deleted files and I had to pay to get it fixed. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ring Tone maker and other programs! Hi Denny, Thanks for the follow-up on that. I will try contacting the owner of the site and see what I can find out, if I'm unable to, I will pull the link from my site. Thanks again, Richard Q. Justice-website owner www.blind-computing.com - Original Message - From: "Denny Huff" To: Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ring Tone maker and other programs! I also tried to install the ringtone maker and Web Root said it contained a virus. I got the virus name and Googled it. This is what I found out about the virus that was contained in the ringtone maker setup called: Mal-Generic-A. Remove Mal-Generic-A Click to delete Mal-Generic-A permanently! Uninstall Mal-Generic-A Generic-A better known as Mal-Generic-A is a virus infection that installs compressed malware files onto the infected pc and opens backdoors to distant attackers. Once the virus Generic-A is inside the system it will execute xxyvstRh.dll payloads and overrun the Pc with annoying porn popup advertisements. Mal-Generic-A spreads via corrupt pornographic and gambling related websites and SPAM email attachments. Mal-Generic-A is a destructive virus that can seriously damage Windows files! Instant Mal-Generic-A Remover (Windows 98, ME, 2000 or XP) Windows Vista Version - Click Here Alias infections: Mal/Generic-B, Mal/Generic Indications of Mal-Generic-A virus: list of 7 items . Hijacked Internet browser properties, start page, search page or error page . Unusual desktop shortcuts and icons, hijacked Windows desktop wallpaper . Unusual Generic-A running processes in the Windows task manager, can't turn off beeping noise from tower speaker . Mal-Generic-A re-generates itself after manual removal, severely hard to get rid of . Loss of dll's, registry keys and Windows files causing "Blue Screen Of Death" screen . Significantly sluggish pc and general system performance problems . Pop-up blocker software quits working, overflowed computer with adult and porn popups list end Mal-Generic-A virus hijack behaviors: list of 3 items . Collects Windows system information and generates pop ups that match surfing activities . Forwards passwords, login names and other sensitive private data to remote hackers by avoiding antivirus and firewall programs . Generic-A downloads and installs numerous malicious programs through Windows and browser security loopholes list end Download automatic remover to find out if your system is hijacked. Remove all Mal-Generic-A clones! Award-winning Mal-Generic-A Removal Tool (Windows 98, ME, 2000 or XP) Windows Vista Edition - For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program?
Hi Chris, I used to love total recorder too. I thought it was awesome that I could record stuff off the internet without picking up the jaws and used to use it all the time. Yes, that is fine, but I think you should as you mentioned write me off list since the total recorder isn't jaws related! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program? Right. I shall look into this and get back to you off list if this is ok with you? As Total Recorder is one of my favourite programs. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Yahoo! Messenger: christopher...@yahoo.com Klango: chrishallsworth -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: 20 September 2009 5:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program? Because, I don't know how to select a portion of a song and copy it. I used to have to play the song in a different player like wmedia and record the clip using total recorder and then save it. Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program? What do you mean you can't use Total Recorder in Vista? This is news to me as I can successfully use the program with Vista and now 7. Yes, it can pick up the JAWS voice, but how about this. Open an mP3 file, for example, do a bit of editing with it, i.e., selecting and copying a chunk, then pasting it into a new MP3 file, call it whatever, and use that as a ringtone. You don't even need a license to do this as the noise is only inserted into recordings made in Total Recorder. Just a thought. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Yahoo! Messenger: christopher...@yahoo.com Klango: chrishallsworth -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson Sent: 20 September 2009 6:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] ringtone program? Hi All, If this is a forbidden question, please let me know. I don't want to start something I shouldn't and am not trying to be "elligal" as some put it with copyright material. Does anyone know of a program, preerably free, that works with jaws that can make ringtones from mp3s? I used to use total recorder and make clips and then upload them to a ringtone maker site that would compress the file to make it smaller, but the ringtones still sounded really really good. However, in vista, you cna't use total recorder like you could in xp, and so you can't record anything in total recorder without picking up jaws speech. I know some free sites where you can download ringtones, but they don't always have what I want. These same sites have ringtone makers but they use the flash player to drag the slider to the part of the song you want and are not accessible. I would buy ringtones, but the process to buy ringtones through verizon is completely inaccessible, at least in my experience. It is also impossible to buy ringback tones and/or set them up without sited help. Thanks, Sarah A. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090918-0, 18/09/2009 Tested on: 20/09/2009 3:12:32 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. _ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090918-0, 18/09/2009 Tested on: 20/09/2009 4:49:28 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090918-0, 18/09/2009 Tested on: 20/09/2009 5:37:47 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. _ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090918-0, 18/09/2009 Tested on: 20/09/2009 7:28:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] firefox
go to: http://www.firefox.com and download it! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: "Kimsan" To: Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:56 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] firefox Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. - Mark Twain Hello, I have heard some marketting concerning firefox and how "great" it was so how can I obtain a copy of firefox so I can try it out? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
