Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille Display and Keyboard Solutions

[Jonathan Cohn]

Amy,

If gets a bit complicated jaws has the keyboard manager where you can change 
what scripts are associated with each keystroke .
You can adjust what information is presented for each control type in 
structured Braille.   
Where to start depends on your current familiarity with JAWS.

Jaws also has an touch mode which more closely resembles voiceover. 
Let me know how much this makes sense and then I can give you additional 
pointers   

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:20 AM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Jonathan.  What would be the best way to approach this?
> 
> Aimee
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Amy,
>> I use both systems on a daily basis and indeed there is quite a bit of 
>> customization available in JAWS. You can also probably run Windows on your 
>> Macintosh if you prefer  I would be glad to help you in adjusting Jaws. 
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone, 
>>> 
>>> First let me introduce myself.  My name is Aimee and I am a law Student at 
>>> Widener Law Commonwealth.  I have been using a Mac and I devices for the 
>>> past 6 years and  now I am having to switch back to Windows and JAWS for 
>>> school.  
>>> 
>>> Now that I have introduced myself, let me move on to my question.  When I 
>>> used my Mac, I controlled it primarily with a Braille display and only had 
>>> to touch the keyboard for a few commands.  I know that it depends on the 
>>> display sometimes how much you can control the computer with the display.  
>>> On the Mac, I could customize almost all of the commands to be what I 
>>> wanted them to be.  Can this be done with JAWS?  I have a VarioUltra 40.  
>>> Can I change commands and assign the majority of the commands to the 
>>> keystrokes I prefer?  
>>> My 
>>> Second question is, can I use one of those one-handed computer gaming 
>>> keyboards to program the remainder of the commands I couldn't get assigned 
>>> on the display? 
>>> 
>>> The reason behind my question is that I think we are looking into a 
>>> Microsoft Surface Pro 4 and I would rather not use the keyboard with it and 
>>> only use the Braille display and the one-handed computer gaming device to 
>>> take up less space. 
>>> 
>>> I greatly appreciate your thoughts and suggestions on these somewhat 
>>> oddball questions. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Aimee 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>> 
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille Display and Keyboard Solutions

[David Ferrin]

Please top post your replies, thank you for cooperating with the list
guidelines.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille Display and Keyboard Solutions

Aimee Harwood <awildh...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
> Now that I have introduced myself, let me move on to my question.  
> When I used my Mac, I controlled it primarily with a Braille display 
> and only had to touch the keyboard for a few commands.  I know that it 
> depends on the display sometimes how much you can control the computer
with the display.
> On the Mac, I could customize almost all of the commands to be what I 
> wanted them to be.  Can this be done with JAWS?  I have a VarioUltra 
> 40.  Can I change commands and assign the majority of the commands to 
> the keystrokes I prefer?


Yes, you can customize the braille display commands. I haven't tried it, as
I am not currently a heavy JAWS user. However, there is a series of JAWS
help topics describing the very extensive braille support provided,
including means of customizing commands.

Freedom Scientific is a braille display vendor. Screen readers written by
braille display vendors tend to have much better braille support than the
alternatives.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille Display and Keyboard Solutions

[Aimee Harwood]

Thank you Jonathan.  What would be the best way to approach this?

Aimee

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Amy,
> I use both systems on a daily basis and indeed there is quite a bit of 
> customization available in JAWS. You can also probably run Windows on your 
> Macintosh if you prefer  I would be glad to help you in adjusting Jaws. 
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone, 
>> 
>> First let me introduce myself.  My name is Aimee and I am a law Student at 
>> Widener Law Commonwealth.  I have been using a Mac and I devices for the 
>> past 6 years and  now I am having to switch back to Windows and JAWS for 
>> school.  
>> 
>> Now that I have introduced myself, let me move on to my question.  When I 
>> used my Mac, I controlled it primarily with a Braille display and only had 
>> to touch the keyboard for a few commands.  I know that it depends on the 
>> display sometimes how much you can control the computer with the display.  
>> On the Mac, I could customize almost all of the commands to be what I wanted 
>> them to be.  Can this be done with JAWS?  I have a VarioUltra 40.  Can I 
>> change commands and assign the majority of the commands to the keystrokes I 
>> prefer?  
>> My 
>> Second question is, can I use one of those one-handed computer gaming 
>> keyboards to program the remainder of the commands I couldn't get assigned 
>> on the display? 
>> 
>> The reason behind my question is that I think we are looking into a 
>> Microsoft Surface Pro 4 and I would rather not use the keyboard with it and 
>> only use the Braille display and the one-handed computer gaming device to 
>> take up less space. 
>> 
>> I greatly appreciate your thoughts and suggestions on these somewhat oddball 
>> questions. 
>> 
>> 
>> Aimee 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille Display and Keyboard Solutions

[Jason White]

Aimee Harwood  wrote:
 
> Now that I have introduced myself, let me move on to my question.  When I
> used my Mac, I controlled it primarily with a Braille display and only had
> to touch the keyboard for a few commands.  I know that it depends on the
> display sometimes how much you can control the computer with the display.
> On the Mac, I could customize almost all of the commands to be what I wanted
> them to be.  Can this be done with JAWS?  I have a VarioUltra 40.  Can I
> change commands and assign the majority of the commands to the keystrokes I
> prefer?  


Yes, you can customize the braille display commands. I haven't tried it, as I
am not currently a heavy JAWS user. However, there is a series of JAWS help
topics describing the very extensive braille support provided, including means
of customizing commands.

Freedom Scientific is a braille display vendor. Screen readers written by
braille display vendors tend to have much better braille support than the
alternatives.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille Display and Keyboard Solutions

[Jonathan Cohn]

Amy,
I use both systems on a daily basis and indeed there is quite a bit of 
customization available in JAWS. You can also probably run Windows on your 
Macintosh if you prefer  I would be glad to help you in adjusting Jaws. 


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone, 
> 
> First let me introduce myself.  My name is Aimee and I am a law Student at 
> Widener Law Commonwealth.  I have been using a Mac and I devices for the past 
> 6 years and  now I am having to switch back to Windows and JAWS for school.  
> 
> Now that I have introduced myself, let me move on to my question.  When I 
> used my Mac, I controlled it primarily with a Braille display and only had to 
> touch the keyboard for a few commands.  I know that it depends on the display 
> sometimes how much you can control the computer with the display.  On the 
> Mac, I could customize almost all of the commands to be what I wanted them to 
> be.  Can this be done with JAWS?  I have a VarioUltra 40.  Can I change 
> commands and assign the majority of the commands to the keystrokes I prefer?  
> My 
> Second question is, can I use one of those one-handed computer gaming 
> keyboards to program the remainder of the commands I couldn't get assigned on 
> the display? 
> 
> The reason behind my question is that I think we are looking into a Microsoft 
> Surface Pro 4 and I would rather not use the keyboard with it and only use 
> the Braille display and the one-handed computer gaming device to take up less 
> space. 
> 
> I greatly appreciate your thoughts and suggestions on these somewhat oddball 
> questions. 
> 
> 
> Aimee 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Bob]

Braille Pen is nowhere near as good when using with jaws.
The connectivity is Bluetooth only as well.

It doesn't feel anywhere near as well put together as the focus.

Bob


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: 13 June 2014 23:05
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

The Focus14 Blue will be able to use Power123, due out any day now, which
Jonathan Mosen spoke about in the latest (May 2014) FSCast. it will thus be
enabled to operate on the computer and iPhone at the same time, i.e.,
without having to be unplugged from the PC's USB port. (I think you press
the on/off button on  the side on the display to toggle whether you want the
Bluetooth operation or the USB operation when you want to change between
devices.) It has Advance bars, router row of buttons, WhizWheels, panning
buttons, shift and selector buttons, and of course the six-dot or the
eight-dot Braille entry keyboard for use with both JAWS and iOS. . it works
seamlessly with both.

- Original Message -
From: Stephan, William S NWK william.s.step...@usace.army.mil
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)


 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE

 Refreshabraille 18 by APH would be a good choice.  You can connect via
 USB or Bluetooth, and it's a dumb display.  The keyboard is quiet and
 it has routing buttons and advance bars.

 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of East, Robin
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 4:07 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Yes,this would be good.
 Thank you



 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
 Sent: June 13, 2014 10:08 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Hi List, I am making a document of the wright ups on the displays that
 interest me. I'll Pass this on to the list, if you all want.

 Vicky

 -Original Message- 
From: East, Robin
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:41 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 I would be interested in the information as well.

 Later
 Robin East


 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
 Behalf Of Annette Carr
 Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a
 comparison
 of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find
 it.
 There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult
 to
 plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember
 which
 one that was.

 Annette


 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
 Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing
 more
 research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through
 Flying
 Blind for just under $1,000.

 Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't
 get the
 dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

 I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
 dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

 Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

 I would be very grateful for any information you might have about
 them, both

 good and bad.

 Sincerely, Vicky

 -Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Focus 14?
 I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
 I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
 I can personally recommend it.
 Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
 device but it is an FS product so it should work.

 On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added
 bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB
 and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by
 USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device

Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Steve]

Focus 14

- Original Message - 
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display that 
is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB or 
Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is

part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7 
computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.


Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display! Vicky
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Rose Combs]

That is good news, have not had time to listen to podcast.  

Is the price about the same?  


Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

The Focus14 Blue will be able to use Power123, due out any day now, which
Jonathan Mosen spoke about in the latest (May 2014) FSCast. it will thus be
enabled to operate on the computer and iPhone at the same time, i.e.,
without having to be unplugged from the PC's USB port. (I think you press
the on/off button on  the side on the display to toggle whether you want the
Bluetooth operation or the USB operation when you want to change between
devices.) It has Advance bars, router row of buttons, WhizWheels, panning
buttons, shift and selector buttons, and of course the six-dot or the
eight-dot Braille entry keyboard for use with both JAWS and iOS. . it works
seamlessly with both.

- Original Message -
From: Stephan, William S NWK william.s.step...@usace.army.mil
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)


 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE

 Refreshabraille 18 by APH would be a good choice.  You can connect via
 USB or Bluetooth, and it's a dumb display.  The keyboard is quiet and
 it has routing buttons and advance bars.

 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of East, Robin
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 4:07 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Yes,this would be good.
 Thank you



 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
 Sent: June 13, 2014 10:08 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Hi List, I am making a document of the wright ups on the displays that
 interest me. I'll Pass this on to the list, if you all want.

 Vicky

 -Original Message- 
From: East, Robin
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:41 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 I would be interested in the information as well.

 Later
 Robin East


 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
 Behalf Of Annette Carr
 Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a
 comparison
 of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find
 it.
 There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult
 to
 plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember
 which
 one that was.

 Annette


 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
 Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing
 more
 research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through
 Flying
 Blind for just under $1,000.

 Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't
 get the
 dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

 I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
 dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

 Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

 I would be very grateful for any information you might have about
 them, both

 good and bad.

 Sincerely, Vicky

 -Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Focus 14?
 I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
 I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
 I can personally recommend it.
 Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
 device but it is an FS product so it should work.

 On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added
 bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB
 and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by
 USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability

Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Flor Lynch]

The price is the same for the Focus Blue, yes. (This is a 'firmware 
uphgrade'.) All new units will come with it in.


- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs  roseco...@q.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



That is good news, have not had time to listen to podcast.

Is the price about the same?


Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On

Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

The Focus14 Blue will be able to use Power123, due out any day now, 
which
Jonathan Mosen spoke about in the latest (May 2014) FSCast. it will 
thus be

enabled to operate on the computer and iPhone at the same time, i.e.,
without having to be unplugged from the PC's USB port. (I think you 
press
the on/off button on  the side on the display to toggle whether you 
want the
Bluetooth operation or the USB operation when you want to change 
between
devices.) It has Advance bars, router row of buttons, WhizWheels, 
panning

buttons, shift and selector buttons, and of course the six-dot or the
eight-dot Braille entry keyboard for use with both JAWS and iOS. . it 
works

seamlessly with both.

- Original Message -

From: Stephan, William S NWK william.s.step...@usace.army.mil

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Refreshabraille 18 by APH would be a good choice.  You can connect 
via

USB or Bluetooth, and it's a dumb display.  The keyboard is quiet and
it has routing buttons and advance bars.

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of East, Robin

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Yes,this would be good.
Thank you



-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan

Sent: June 13, 2014 10:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Hi List, I am making a document of the wright ups on the displays 
that

interest me. I'll Pass this on to the list, if you all want.

Vicky

-Original Message- 

From: East, Robin

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well.

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a
comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find
it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult
to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember
which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing
more
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through
Flying
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't
get the
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of 
a

dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about
them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 

From: Jorge Paez

Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:

The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added
bonus
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB
and/or
Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the 
iPhone

5S.

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


Hi Jaws people, Do any

Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[East, Robin]

I would be interested in the information as well. 

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Annette Carr
Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more 
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying 
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the 
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a 
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
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 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Stephan, William S NWK]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Some people have trouble plugging the USB cable into the Refreshabraille, but 
there's a technique that helps much with this.  I had a Braille Pen for a 
while, but returned it because it just wasn't engineered well, it had a long 
joystick and was just generally clunky.  Not sure about the small Freedom 
Scientific displays, but I like the APH Refreshabraille 18, it's ruggedly 
constructed and has a very long battery life.
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 8:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well. 

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Annette Carr
Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more 
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying 
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the 
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a 
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Vicky Vaughan]

Hi List, I am making a document of the wright ups on the displays that 
interest me. I'll Pass this on to the list, if you all want.


Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: East, Robin

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well.

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Annette Carr

Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez

Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:

The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
5S.

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Vicky Vaughan]

Stephan, The Braille Pen that you had, was it the 12 Touch?

Since the BP 12 T is over $300 less than the Freedom scientific and is less 
than a third of the weight, I have been seriously considering it.


However, your comments regarding its clunkiness and poor construction are 
very caussionary.


I would really like to hear more about your experiences with your Braille 
Pen!


Thank you very much for righting to let me know about your experiences! 
Vicky


-Original Message- 
From: Stephan, William S NWK

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Some people have trouble plugging the USB cable into the Refreshabraille, 
but there's a technique that helps much with this.  I had a Braille Pen for 
a while, but returned it because it just wasn't engineered well, it had a 
long joystick and was just generally clunky.  Not sure about the small 
Freedom Scientific displays, but I like the APH Refreshabraille 18, it's 
ruggedly constructed and has a very long battery life.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of East, Robin

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 8:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well.

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Annette Carr

Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez

Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:

The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
5S.

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Jorge Paez]

I have a Refreshabraille and its great!
The only problem I've had is JAWS.
JAWS and the Refreshabraille simply do not get along.
However, if you're going to be using this with IOS devices, its great!
Oh, and as far as the usb thing, its a pain to connect it to the
refreshabraille, but with a little tinkering you can do it.
I just leave the cable attached wherever I go even though I usually
don't use it via USB.
Its better for keeping things together too anyway.



On 6/13/14, Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Stephan, The Braille Pen that you had, was it the 12 Touch?

 Since the BP 12 T is over $300 less than the Freedom scientific and is less

 than a third of the weight, I have been seriously considering it.

 However, your comments regarding its clunkiness and poor construction are
 very caussionary.

 I would really like to hear more about your experiences with your Braille
 Pen!

 Thank you very much for righting to let me know about your experiences!
 Vicky

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephan, William S NWK
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 11:24 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE

 Some people have trouble plugging the USB cable into the Refreshabraille,
 but there's a technique that helps much with this.  I had a Braille Pen for

 a while, but returned it because it just wasn't engineered well, it had a
 long joystick and was just generally clunky.  Not sure about the small
 Freedom Scientific displays, but I like the APH Refreshabraille 18, it's
 ruggedly constructed and has a very long battery life.


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of East, Robin
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 8:42 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 I would be interested in the information as well.

 Later
 Robin East


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Annette Carr
 Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a
 comparison
 of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
 There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
 plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
 one that was.

 Annette


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more
 research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying
 Blind for just under $1,000.

 Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the
 dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

 I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
 dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

 Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

 I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them,
 both

 good and bad.

 Sincerely, Vicky

 -Original Message-
 From: Jorge Paez
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Focus 14?
 I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
 I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
 I can personally recommend it.
 Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
 device but it is an FS product so it should work.

 On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[East, Robin]

Yes,this would be good.
Thank you



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: June 13, 2014 10:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Hi List, I am making a document of the wright ups on the displays that 
interest me. I'll Pass this on to the list, if you all want.

Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: East, Robin
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well.

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Stephan, William S NWK]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Refreshabraille 18 by APH would be a good choice.  You can connect via USB or 
Bluetooth, and it's a dumb display.  The keyboard is quiet and it has routing 
buttons and advance bars.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Yes,this would be good.
Thank you



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: June 13, 2014 10:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Hi List, I am making a document of the wright ups on the displays that 
interest me. I'll Pass this on to the list, if you all want.

Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: East, Robin
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well.

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Flor Lynch]

The Focus14 Blue will be able to use Power123, due out any day now,
which Jonathan Mosen spoke about in the latest (May 2014) FSCast. it
will thus be enabled to operate on the computer and iPhone at the same
time, i.e., without having to be unplugged from the PC's USB port. (I
think you press the on/off button on  the side on the display to toggle
whether you want the Bluetooth operation or the USB operation when you
want to change between devices.) It has Advance bars, router row of
buttons, WhizWheels, panning buttons, shift and selector buttons, and of
course the six-dot or the eight-dot Braille entry keyboard for use with
both JAWS and iOS. . it works seamlessly with both.

- Original Message - 
From: Stephan, William S NWK william.s.step...@usace.army.mil

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Refreshabraille 18 by APH would be a good choice.  You can connect via
USB or Bluetooth, and it's a dumb display.  The keyboard is quiet and
it has routing buttons and advance bars.

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of East, Robin

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Yes,this would be good.
Thank you



-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan

Sent: June 13, 2014 10:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Hi List, I am making a document of the wright ups on the displays that
interest me. I'll Pass this on to the list, if you all want.

Vicky

-Original Message- 

From: East, Robin

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well.

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a
comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find
it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult
to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember
which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing
more
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through
Flying
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't
get the
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about
them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 

From: Jorge Paez

Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:

The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added
bonus
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB
and/or
Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
5S.

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by
USB
or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows
7
computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Flor Lynch]

The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus 
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or 
Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone 
5S.


- Original Message - 
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display 
that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB 
or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is

part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7 
computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.


Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display! 
Vicky

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Jorge Paez]

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Vicky Vaughan]

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more 
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying 
Blind for just under $1,000.


Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the 
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.


I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a 
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .


Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both 
good and bad.


Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez

Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:

The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
5S.

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Flor Lynch]

No. Focus14. it has 14 cells. there is no Focus 18. (braille lite of 
ancient vintage, 18.)


- Original Message - 
From: Jorge Paez jorgeapaez1...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added 
bonus
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB 
and/or

Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
5S.

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by 
USB

or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 
7

computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Flor Lynch]

Maybe in the meantime you can google braille Pen and JAWS. You may need 
(and I'm speculating here) to download some driver file from Dolphin (or 
the - manufacturers - site) to make it compatible with JAWS. I may 
search myself, also, as I've also heard nention of the pen lately.


- Original Message - 
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing 
more research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold 
through Flying Blind for just under $1,000.


Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't 
get the dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.


I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a 
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .


Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about 
them, both good and bad.


Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 

From: Jorge Paez

Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added 
bonus
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB 
and/or

Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
5S.

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by 
USB

or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 
7

computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Jorge Paez]

Oh, that's my error, there's an 18-cell display but that's from a
different manufacturer.
As far as the Braille Pen, I haven't seen it myself but I haven't
heard good things about it either.
Personally, if I was in your position I'd stick with FS products,
because of compatibility.


On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 Maybe in the meantime you can google braille Pen and JAWS. You may need
 (and I'm speculating here) to download some driver file from Dolphin (or
 the - manufacturers - site) to make it compatible with JAWS. I may
 search myself, also, as I've also heard nention of the pen lately.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing
 more research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold
 through Flying Blind for just under $1,000.

 Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't
 get the dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

 I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
 dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

 Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

 I would be very grateful for any information you might have about
 them, both good and bad.

 Sincerely, Vicky

 -Original Message-
From: Jorge Paez
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Focus 14?
 I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
 I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
 I can personally recommend it.
 Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
 device but it is an FS product so it should work.

 On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added
 bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB
 and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by
 USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows
 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Annette Carr]

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more 
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying 
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the 
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a 
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

[Vicky Vaughan]

Hi Annette, Thank you for alerting me to the Perkins Braille Mini. I had not 
heard of it yet.
Please if you can find that comparison of displays, I would be very 
interested!


Sincerely, Vicky



-Original Message- 
From: Annette Carr

Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez

Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:

The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
5S.

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] braille display support

[Mick Du Buisson]

Hi there,
I am also
Thinking of purchasing a knew
Braille reader  Unfortunately
They are fairly expensive spec if your not working and even when working.
Keep me informed if you hear anymore from the list. Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Velegi István
Sent: 25 October 2012 11:40
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] braille display support

Hi all,

I am thinking about purchasing a braille display which fits with the
following:
-The cheepest one on the market and have at least 40 cells, -Works with
windows 7 64 bit and jaws 13 64 bit.

I know that Fs braille displays work with 64 bit Jaws and windows but I find
them very expensive.

If you have any suggestions, please, write to me.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Istvan

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Re: [JAWS-Users] braille display support

[André van Deventer]

You will probably not find a 40 cell display cheaper than the focus 40 blue.

What might be cheaper is the displays from Telesoft in Japan.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Velegi István
Sent: 25 October 2012 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] braille display support

Hi all,

I am thinking about purchasing a braille display which fits with the
following:
-The cheepest one on the market and have at least 40 cells, -Works with
windows 7 64 bit and jaws 13 64 bit.

I know that Fs braille displays work with 64 bit Jaws and windows but I find
them very expensive.

If you have any suggestions, please, write to me.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Istvan

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Re: [JAWS-Users] braille display support

[Velegi István]

Hi Mick,

I can't write to your e-mail address, so I post here my mail.

What kind of display do you use? What is the problem with it?

Greetings,
Istvan

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Re: [JAWS-Users] braille display support

[laller]

Dear István!

I think, you might try handy tech. It is a german display, but very 
good.

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2012.10.25. 12:40 keltezéssel, Velegi István írta:

Hi all,

I am thinking about purchasing a braille display which fits with the 
following:

-The cheepest one on the market and have at least 40 cells,
-Works with windows 7 64 bit and jaws 13 64 bit.

I know that Fs braille displays work with 64 bit Jaws and windows but 
I find them very expensive.


If you have any suggestions, please, write to me.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Istvan

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display recommendation

[Mick Du Buisson]

Thanks for your advice.  I'll keep this email in mind for the fewture.  Mick
dubo.

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: 22 July 2012 18:03
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display recommendation

Mick,

I have a Humanware Brailliant 40 which I happen to like very much.  It is
tiny as compared to the PB40.

--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Senior Oracle Database Administrator
Carnegie Mellon University.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck

[Jerry Berrier]

Hi Flor,

Thanks for helping me try to work through this.  I just tried typing a long
string of text without ever hitting the enter key.  Each time the display
refreshes, it always starts in cell 2.
  


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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck

Hi jerry,

This may be because every new line - a hard line break, when the enter 
key is pressed - is treated as a paragraph break, thus making a new one 
begin in cell two or cell three (to conform with the correct brailling 
rules), in Notepad and in Perky Duck.  If you have the full forty cells 
filled in one line, then isn't it likely that there will be a single 
space left in cell one of the next braille line to mark the word 
separation, which might be important if you have the display refreshing 
automatically?  (I can't speak to perky duck, not having it.)  the 
paragraph setting in Outlook and word may be set to two line-spaces 
rather than just one.  if reading a print line in Notepad of more than 
40 characters that wraps, I believe the remainder of the print line will 
start over on cell one of the next braille (as it will happen, shorter) 
line.  the braille line beginning in cell two or three may be quite 
correct for beginning a new paragraph in braille.  I do have Duxbury 
braille Translator, and I know that there are settings available there 
to enable beginning a parargraph on cell one.

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Berrier jerry.berr...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky 
Duck


 Hi,
 I think the margins are only for printing.  Anyway, I just changed it 
 to 0
 on my own computer, and I still find the first character in Notepad in 
 cell
 # 2.
 It was definitely a good thought and worth a try though.


 -Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor 
 Lynch
 Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky 
 Duck

 What's her left margin set to?  In Notepad, page Set-up, the default
 left and right margins both are 20 millimeters.  (This is the value in
 Windows XP.  I presume it's the same in vista.)

 - Original Message - 
From: Jerry Berrier jerry.berr...@comcast.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:23 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck


I am working with a deaf-blind person who uses a Focus braille 
display,
JFW
 11, and Vista.

 She's taking a braille transcription course, so alignment is
 important.

 She has discovered that in Perky Duck, and in Notepad, the cursor
 always
 starts in cell 2 instead of cell 1.  (In Word or Outlook, the cursor
 starts
 as it should in cell 1.)

 I have tried changing some settings in her braille options.  Status
 cells
 are turned off.  She's using a 40-cell display, and panning increment
 is set
 to 40.

 Any thoughts on why this problem is occurring and how to fix it?



 Thanks.









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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck

[Flor Lynch]

Hi,

I have a BrailleNote (32 cell).  I did a test in Notepad writing text 
with no press of the enter key over multiple line-breaks, and indeed the 
new lines begin with an indent of 1 cell to cell two.  This, after all, 
may be the default behaviour in Notepad (at least).  I wonder if we 
turned off word wrap, and chose 'best fit', would that change anything. 
Now, it's true that most lines will not have the full 40-cell braille 
width; so for most purposes in most programs that won't matter much.  I 
do some braille proof-reading myself, for which i use duxbury; and there 
the cells (including cell 1 when appropriate) are filled in with the 
beginning of a new braille line.  I'm quite surew there is a technical 
explanation of why new lines on a braille display in Notepad and in 
other programs begin in cell two; but does anyone here know it?  It's 
also quite true that Notepad is not an ideal means through which to read 
a text file on a refreshable braille display.


- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Berrier jerry.berr...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky 
Duck




Hi Flor,

Thanks for helping me try to work through this.  I just tried typing a 
long
string of text without ever hitting the enter key.  Each time the 
display

refreshes, it always starts in cell 2.



-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky 
Duck


Hi jerry,

This may be because every new line - a hard line break, when the enter
key is pressed - is treated as a paragraph break, thus making a new 
one

begin in cell two or cell three (to conform with the correct brailling
rules), in Notepad and in Perky Duck.  If you have the full forty 
cells

filled in one line, then isn't it likely that there will be a single
space left in cell one of the next braille line to mark the word
separation, which might be important if you have the display 
refreshing

automatically?  (I can't speak to perky duck, not having it.)  the
paragraph setting in Outlook and word may be set to two line-spaces
rather than just one.  if reading a print line in Notepad of more than
40 characters that wraps, I believe the remainder of the print line 
will
start over on cell one of the next braille (as it will happen, 
shorter)

line.  the braille line beginning in cell two or three may be quite
correct for beginning a new paragraph in braille.  I do have Duxbury
braille Translator, and I know that there are settings available there
to enable beginning a parargraph on cell one.

- Original Message - 

From: Jerry Berrier jerry.berr...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky
Duck



Hi,
I think the margins are only for printing.  Anyway, I just changed it
to 0
on my own computer, and I still find the first character in Notepad 
in

cell
# 2.
It was definitely a good thought and worth a try though.


-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com

[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor
Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky
Duck

What's her left margin set to?  In Notepad, page Set-up, the default
left and right margins both are 20 millimeters.  (This is the value 
in

Windows XP.  I presume it's the same in vista.)

- Original Message - 

From: Jerry Berrier jerry.berr...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck



I am working with a deaf-blind person who uses a Focus braille
display,
JFW
11, and Vista.

She's taking a braille transcription course, so alignment is
important.

She has discovered that in Perky Duck, and in Notepad, the cursor
always
starts in cell 2 instead of cell 1.  (In Word or Outlook, the cursor
starts
as it should in cell 1.)

I have tried changing some settings in her braille options.  Status
cells
are turned off.  She's using a 40-cell display, and panning 
increment

is set
to 40.

Any thoughts on why this problem is occurring and how to fix it?



Thanks.









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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck

[Flor Lynch]

What's her left margin set to?  In Notepad, page Set-up, the default 
left and right margins both are 20 millimeters.  (This is the value in 
Windows XP.  I presume it's the same in vista.)


- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Berrier jerry.berr...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck


I am working with a deaf-blind person who uses a Focus braille display, 
JFW

11, and Vista.

She's taking a braille transcription course, so alignment is 
important.


She has discovered that in Perky Duck, and in Notepad, the cursor 
always
starts in cell 2 instead of cell 1.  (In Word or Outlook, the cursor 
starts

as it should in cell 1.)

I have tried changing some settings in her braille options.  Status 
cells
are turned off.  She's using a 40-cell display, and panning increment 
is set

to 40.

Any thoughts on why this problem is occurring and how to fix it?



Thanks.









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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck

[Jerry Berrier]

Hi,
I think the margins are only for printing.  Anyway, I just changed it to 0
on my own computer, and I still find the first character in Notepad in cell
# 2.
It was definitely a good thought and worth a try though.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck

What's her left margin set to?  In Notepad, page Set-up, the default 
left and right margins both are 20 millimeters.  (This is the value in 
Windows XP.  I presume it's the same in vista.)

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Berrier jerry.berr...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck


I am working with a deaf-blind person who uses a Focus braille display, 
JFW
 11, and Vista.

 She's taking a braille transcription course, so alignment is 
 important.

 She has discovered that in Perky Duck, and in Notepad, the cursor 
 always
 starts in cell 2 instead of cell 1.  (In Word or Outlook, the cursor 
 starts
 as it should in cell 1.)

 I have tried changing some settings in her braille options.  Status 
 cells
 are turned off.  She's using a 40-cell display, and panning increment 
 is set
 to 40.

 Any thoughts on why this problem is occurring and how to fix it?



 Thanks.









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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck

[Flor Lynch]

Hi jerry,

This may be because every new line - a hard line break, when the enter 
key is pressed - is treated as a paragraph break, thus making a new one 
begin in cell two or cell three (to conform with the correct brailling 
rules), in Notepad and in Perky Duck.  If you have the full forty cells 
filled in one line, then isn't it likely that there will be a single 
space left in cell one of the next braille line to mark the word 
separation, which might be important if you have the display refreshing 
automatically?  (I can't speak to perky duck, not having it.)  the 
paragraph setting in Outlook and word may be set to two line-spaces 
rather than just one.  if reading a print line in Notepad of more than 
40 characters that wraps, I believe the remainder of the print line will 
start over on cell one of the next braille (as it will happen, shorter) 
line.  the braille line beginning in cell two or three may be quite 
correct for beginning a new paragraph in braille.  I do have Duxbury 
braille Translator, and I know that there are settings available there 
to enable beginning a parargraph on cell one.


- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Berrier jerry.berr...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky 
Duck




Hi,
I think the margins are only for printing.  Anyway, I just changed it 
to 0
on my own computer, and I still find the first character in Notepad in 
cell

# 2.
It was definitely a good thought and worth a try though.


-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky 
Duck


What's her left margin set to?  In Notepad, page Set-up, the default
left and right margins both are 20 millimeters.  (This is the value in
Windows XP.  I presume it's the same in vista.)

- Original Message - 

From: Jerry Berrier jerry.berr...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display Issue in Notepad and Perky Duck


I am working with a deaf-blind person who uses a Focus braille 
display,

JFW
11, and Vista.

She's taking a braille transcription course, so alignment is
important.

She has discovered that in Perky Duck, and in Notepad, the cursor
always
starts in cell 2 instead of cell 1.  (In Word or Outlook, the cursor
starts
as it should in cell 1.)

I have tried changing some settings in her braille options.  Status
cells
are turned off.  She's using a 40-cell display, and panning increment
is set
to 40.

Any thoughts on why this problem is occurring and how to fix it?



Thanks.









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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display stays blank after suspend to disk

[Chris Hallsworth]

Are you running this natively or in a virtual machine using VMware 
Fusion or something. Just curious as that may have a bearing on the problem.


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I am also on Facebook.

On 18/12/2009 19:52, Jeronimo Schöber wrote:

Hello,
I am using jaws 10 on an intel mac running windows xp SP3 . It is equipped with 
an intel gma3100 graphics adaptor with 965 express chipset.
My display is Papenmeier el40s connected via an usb to serial adaptor (ftdi 
chipset) built into the display itself.
When I go into standby the display stays blank after waking the machine from 
acpi s3. Restarting Jaws fixes this.
When I go into suspend to disk i.e complete shutdown with the ram contents 
written to hiberfil.sys the display stays blank after waking the machine even 
if I restart jaws.
Even more strange some times the start menu gets displayed on the braille 
display whereas outlook express message list view does not get displayed.
Any clue on how to fix this?
Thanks
Jeronimo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display stays blank after suspend to disk

[Jeronimo Schöber]

No it is native boot camp drivers installed.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display stays blank after suspend to disk


Are you running this natively or in a virtual machine using VMware
Fusion or something. Just curious as that may have a bearing on the problem.

Chris Hallsworth
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On 18/12/2009 19:52, Jeronimo Schöber wrote:

Hello,
I am using jaws 10 on an intel mac running windows xp SP3 . It is equipped 
with an intel gma3100 graphics adaptor with 965 express chipset.
My display is Papenmeier el40s connected via an usb to serial adaptor 
(ftdi chipset) built into the display itself.
When I go into standby the display stays blank after waking the machine 
from acpi s3. Restarting Jaws fixes this.
When I go into suspend to disk i.e complete shutdown with the ram contents 
written to hiberfil.sys the display stays blank after waking the machine 
even if I restart jaws.
Even more strange some times the start menu gets displayed on the braille 
display whereas outlook express message list view does not get displayed.

Any clue on how to fix this?
Thanks
Jeronimo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display and Jaws 8

[Joseph Lee]

Hi there,
Did you go to Add braille display button from 
this dialog? You should add it first before 
you can use it.  Syncing is not relatf to 
this (unless if you want to use PAC Mate 
Remote (should ask the PAC Mate list for more 
info) to control your computer from your PAC 
Mate).
Cheers,
Joseph

 - Original Message -
From: William Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:53:31 -0500
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display and 
Jaws 8

I have three computers running Jaws 8, one 
desktop, and two laptops.  I
decided to use my Pacmate display on one of 
the laptops.  I went in under
utilities and opened up the display window.  
On the other two machines I've
done this with, there's a pick for the PM 
display.  On this particular
machine though, there's only one pick, and 
it's for no display.

Now, I have never synced my pacmate with this 
particular laptop.  Do I need
to do that to get the drivers to appear, or 
is there some other way to get
them.



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