KR> Right on Brian
I'm still here... I'm in the middle of a move to Tulsa and I'm commuting on weekends, so it leaves little time for the KR. I will be there permanently in May and will get back to it. It's been about a 6-8 month delay... Your posts keep me going, though. And to keep this KR related, I decided a long time ago to keep in light and simple and made a lot of progress in a relatively short time. If you build per plans (with the new airfoil :-) you will be amazed at how fast it will go. Brian and I always talk about how much time we spend thinking about building a part compared to actually building it. As Brian puts it, the 2nd KR will go much faster, of course, I need to finish my orginal one first... :-) Bob - I'm looking forward to your progress reports. Dean Cooper Jacksonville FL USA (moving to Tulsa OK in May '06) Corvair powered KR2 Visit my website at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html On 3/26/06, Bob Glidden <glid...@ccrtc.com> wrote: > > You are right Brian.I wanted to put flaps and a lot of other things on > mine.Now my goal is just to get it in the air and worry about all the > extras > after I been flying it for a while.Since I decided to do it this way,I got > my H.S glued up and ready for foam tomorrow and my center spars in and the > templates on them today.I'm ordering my aluminum for my tanks tomorrow and > going to try to get my canopy stated next week.My new goal is keep it lite > and keep it simple.By the way what happen to Dean,I've not seen him post > in > a while > > > Bob Glidden > Eminence,Indiana > KR2S N181FW (building) > Corvair 110 > glid...@ccrtc.com > > --- > --- > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> Aluminum T stock
Steven wrote: > I am looking for a piece of T stock for use in the Dr. Dean hinge control > horn Steven, I searched for months to try and find some and couldn't (in any reasonable length to ship). If it weren't for Brian making us some on his milling machine, I still wouldn't have them. Using two pieces of angle back to back like Dennis mentioned will work fine as well. Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See Corvair powered KR Project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Back in Cali
Steve wrote: >> I FINALLY made it back at about 6:45 PM tonight. Steve, I just want to say thanks for bringing your great looking KR all the way from Cali to motivate us builders. While it's nice to see other builders and get advise, it's the KR Pilots who bring their KR's that make the Gathering. I want to personally thank you (longest distance winner) and the rest of the KR Pilots who dodged weather to get to the gathering to show them off. Thanks! I hope to join you some day soon! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR Project at http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Thanks Bob Glidden
Mark J wrote: >I think everyone who was at the campfire drinking soda and telling tall >tales should make it a point to personally thank Bob Glidden.. I agree. Bob, thanks for being the "campground host". Your generosity and friendship is valued greatly!! Hope to see you at Corvair College in November. ps. The camper was much easier on my back than the ground was last year, thanks for putting up with me! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR Project at http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Perfect gathering weather?
Brian wrote: > Well, it is looking like the tropical storm heading to Florida may just > ruin my gathering plans. I hear ya. I'm hoping I can get out on Friday morning myself (commercial flight). It'll really stink if I have my second gathering in as many years is interrupted by another Hurricane... I'm with Dan, let's move this thing to October. Wishing everyone a safe travel to the Gathering. Hope to see everyone on Friday. ps. Sorry to hear about your wife, Joe. I wish her a speedy recovery. You will be missed at the gathering. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR Project at http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Turtle deck advice
Joachim wrote:" > I think you are in OVERKILL mode. The turtledeck is NOT structural!! If I understood Jeff right, he has 2 layers of cloth over the whole thing, then he's going to have support ribs and a spine made of 4 layers of cloth tape and a layer of carbon. I'm not sure I would call that overkill. You could probably eliminate 1-2 of the layers of cloth tape on the ribs and spine, but the rest sounds fine. Build what's comfortable to you, it's your butt in the seat. Also, make sure the ribs and spine are formed as 'hat' supports. I assume you built a 'male' mold for the turtle deck vs. a female mold. I would read about Scott Cable's turtle deck process before you start at: http://kr-builder.org/ScottCable/index.html Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See Corvair powered KR Project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Diehl Main Gear
John wrote:" > .but I was thinking that it might be good to put a thin plate of 4130 > on the back side.. John, I would go with the route that Mark J spoke of, but if they're already closed and you feel you need a backing plate, I would use 6061plate instead of 4130 to avoid having to worry about rust/corrosion as well as less weight. Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See Corvair powered KR Project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> LETS GO FLY!
Bill wrote:" > Well, after a week of bad weather I finally got to go up and just fly > around for an hour or so Bill, Are you flying behind the new "601" cowling, yet? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See Corvair powered KR Project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Making Real Engine Noises
Dan wrote: >The WannaBee has come to life. Congrats Dan and Jerry. This is a special moment and it won't be long now till I hear that yehaaa all the way down here. Great job. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See Corvair powered KR Project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Project Update
Netters, It's been quite today. Hope everyone is enjoying their Memorial Day weekend (USA). I spent some time today updating my website with some backlog of pics. As for project updates, I recently purchased a corvair motor that has already been converted for aircraft use and was supposedly built by WW. I'm planning to drop down to WW's hanger at some point this summer and have him a take a look. Everything on it looks good to me, but I'm relatively new to Corvairs. Other updates on the website include the detail for my Canopy at: http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Canopy.html and the detail for my canopy hinges at: http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Canopy_Hinge.html Hope all is well in KR land. I do believe we are in double digit days until the Gathering. Hope to see everyone in Mt. Vernon! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See Corvair powered KR Project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> final weight and balance
Mark wrote: > I did my "final" weight and balance Monday. Mark, Sounds like that first flight is getting close. Look forward to the first flight report. Good luck! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR Project at http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Web page Update
Mark wrote: > For a flying photo of my KR taken by Joe Weber from his KR today Mark, That sure is a nice sight!! I can see the YEEHAA grin from here... Sorry to here about the spinner, but I'm glad you're safe. That had to test out the pucker factor, especially after only 3.6 hours... :-) Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR Project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Prop Bank
Lee wrote: > ...From what i can remember there was not a lot on inventory in the prop > bank. Netters, I've been thinking the same thing for a while because I hope to take advantage of the prop bank next year when mine is flying (of course, now I'm jinx'd... :-). One way to continue to add money is when you borrow someone's molds (ie, Mark L's cowl molds, wheel pant molds, etc), drop a paypal to Mark Jones for $20 or so. Since we're saving significantly more money than that by using the molds, it seems like a small price to pay and especially with a cowl mold, you're getting close to potentially benefiting from the prop bank anyway. (Mark L- I hope you don't mind the reference). As a reminder, prop bank donations should be sent to: Mark Jones 615 Wexford Circle Wales, WI 53183 Paypal to: flyk...@wi.rr.com Mark, Is there any place that lists how much is in the bank and what props there are available (if any)? Thanks again for facilitating this! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR Project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> From another list
Eric wrote: >I have the emails and credit card slips to prove what I am going to say Eric, If you paid for it with a credit card (direct to the merchant - not to paypal), you should be able to dispute the charge. You have to notify the credit card issuer in writing within 60 days from the billing date in which the charge appeared. It should be pretty easy to resolve if the above is true. I've worked the past 15 years in the credit card industry (don't flame me... :-) Contact me off-net if I can help. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> main gear position for tri gear / update
Dene wrote: > where the other guys with tri gear configs have positioned their wheels with > regard to the rear face of the main spar I have Diehl Gear and mine is 5.25" from the aft side of the spar to the center of the axle. Netters, I'm glassing in my canopy this week. I got the gas struts installed (thanks Mark L for the source) and they work like a charm. Also, I peeled the 20 year old protective film off of the canopy and it came off without any trouble. Boy, having a canopy on the plane that you can see out of really encourages those airplane noises!!! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> insurance / long
Larry wrote: >Keep in mind that the KR with anything but a Lycombing or Continental will be nearly impossible to get insurance on. Dan wrote: > Actually, the man I talked to at Falcon, had no problem with the GPASC VW I thought Mark Jones got insurance from Falcon with his corvair as well? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> "soda pop" ground rules
Larry wrote: >The information gathered there may be totally worthless but the entertainment value is at least a 9 on a scale of 10 !! Jim wrote: > Can you tell me where Mt. Vernon is? Larry, I second that!! The "after hours forums" are where all the "serious" KR talk happens. As for skinny dippin' in the lake, my lips are sealed. Too bad last year, Brian and I had to leave on Saturday to get back to Florida before the hurricane hit Sunday. This year, I'm staying no matter what even it means I have to sleep in someone's barn... :-) Jim, Mt. Vernon is in southern Illinois about an hour or so out of St. Louis. See the gathering website at http://www.krgathering.org/ See everyone at the gathering. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> PROP BANK
Mark wrote: > For those who do not know what the prop bank is all about, please read the following: Mark, It might be a good idea to build a web page describing the program, including your address, paypal instructions, and maybe even photes of the props in inventory. This page could then be permanently listed on the KRnet home page and be easily referenced when you send out reminder emails. Just a thought... Thanks for facilitating this, I know it will come in handy as I get closer to flying! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Flap Handle
Netters, Does anyone have a flap handle assembly that they are not planning to use and would like to sell? Please contact me off net at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net ps. I already asked Mark J. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Free PDF Writer
Ron wrote: > FYI for those who want a PDF writer. Ron, et al: If you want one without the pop-ups, check this one out. It downloads to your PC and is not connected to a website. It installs as a printer option, so you just "print" the document to the "CutePDF printer" and it prompts you where to save it. Very easy to use. I've been using it for over a year with no problems, pop-ups, etc. Hope it helps. http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Canopy questions.
Jim wrote: > RE: How do you keep the tape from having a shaggy edge with out sanding into > the plastic canopy? Dan wrote: > I like to do the last process again, with no filler, to get as fine a > fairing to the canopy as possible. Jim, I'm in about the same stage you are. I'll tell you, I've seen Dan's canopy and the steps he laid out work very well. Also, the BID fiberglass tape has a woven edge so that is what keeps the glass from unwraveling. One last thing, I'll pass along Dan's advice to me, "be patient with your sanding" to avoid damaging the canopy. It's extremely tedious as you go around the edge of the canopy. Good luck. ps. Post some pictures if you can. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Update / New Pics
Netters, It's been a while since I posted any progress. I've been busy building. After the Gathering in September, I returned and got busy on the tail feathers. I have everything but the VS ready for finish sanding. Click here to see a pic http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/HS_19.JPG. On a minor note, I finished my seat back. I used 0.50" last-o-foam glassed on both sides and hinged to my one piece carbon seat. The whole thing slips right out. I got this idea from Bill Clapp. Also, I cut the seat back to make a 1/3 - 2/3 split back so part can act as a map holder/arm rest/cup holder when flying solo. See the pic at http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Seat_15.JPG. Lastly, I have spent the last 2-3 weeks working on my canopy. I started with a stock KR2 Canopy frame. I "flattened" it to make more head room and added 4.25" risers on each side to raise the canopy to fit me. Then, I took Mark L's hinge design and modified it to mount to the fuselage sides. I am really happy with how this is coming together. Take a look at a few pics at http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Canopy.html. I know it's not finished, but it looked so good, I figured I would share it. :-) I have plenty more pictures, but I just haven't stopped long enough to get them posted to the website. I'm trying to get this thing in the air by the end of 2005. Also, I kept most of my pics indoors to keep from depressing Mark J any more. We've had the most beautiful January weather I can remember; 10 days straight of 75 degree, clear-sky days. (Sorry Mark, I hope you get her in the air soon!) I welcome any comments. Hope all is well out in KR land... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Gear legs
Gavin wrote: >Do the bolts holding the legs to the wing spar bracket require aluminium back up plates Gavin, I bought my Diehl kit 12 months ago and it came with AN960 flat washers and locknuts. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Trim Tube/Cable
Netters, To those of you that are doing manual trim tab actuators, what type of tube/cable are you using to run from the tab to the cockpit. I have recieved a couple of ideas, but I'm looking for others before completing mine. I looked through the archives, but it's limited. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Happy Holidays! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> O200 mount and nose leg
Gavin wrote: > The question is How long do I make this 1 1/4" I.D. tube to give enough support to the nose leg??? Gavin, My Diehl bracket runs 45 degrees down from the firewall and is approximately 6" long on the bottom side and 7.5" long on the top side (a 45 degree weld to the mounting plate). The engine mount supports attach 0.75" OC from the end of the bracket tube and reach up to the lower engine attach points (designed for a VW mount, although I'm sure it could be easily adapted to an O200 mount). You can see pics on my site. I hope that helps. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> a YEEE HAAA kind of day(long)
Larry wrote: > Soo, all you builder out there thinking you'll work on the KR > tomorrow, go out and get something done today. There is not only > light at the end of the tunnel, there is a WHOLE BUNCH OF FUN > TO BE HAD TOO. GET TO BUILDING !! Thanks for the story Larry! It makes me want to get back out in the garage. I just put the second side of carbon on my rudder, so the tail is very close to done except for the VS, which I'm going to wait a little while make. A couple of business trips and then I'm back on vacation the last 2 weeks of Dec to work on the KR some more. Thanks again for the motivation! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Hinge holes
Netters, I'm finishing up my elevator with Dr. Dean REB hinges. What did others do to finish the holes where the hinges enter the leading edge of the elevator, if anything? Do I need to flox the sides or anything? You can't see the holes except with max travel extended, and then it's barely the edge of the hole. Thoughts? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> HS Weight
Netters, Does anyone have a benchmark on what the HS and Elevator together generally weigh? I just finished my rough HS and Elevator. I need to add the lead to the aerodynamic balances, glass the gap seal areas, and add the 20 lbs of filler :-) It weighed in at 11.0 pounds. I used Fiberglass on the HS and Carbon on the Elevator. Pictures to come...If anyone has the weight data, I would appreciate it. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Aileron pulley bracket
Cowgirl wrote: >I was told that it has to be 6 inchs longer then the orginal bracket > by one person and 2 inchs longer by another does anyone have any suggestions I'm prettty sure my plans I got from Diehl stated 6" and that's probably right since the cable will be angling out from the stick location, past the gear bracket, to the lower WAF location. Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Embarrasing moments in airplane building
Brian, That was a good laugh You know, friends don't let freinds drill their canopy alone (or something like that :-) I would have been glad to come over and help you out, of course, I would have brought the digital camera for show and tell at next year's Gathering... :-) Just kidding. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:15 AM Subject: KR> Embarrasing moments in airplane building > If so many of you were not good friends I would keep quiet, but here goes. > > I was working on the canopy latch on my Midget Mustang last night. It will > have two 1/4" locking rods like a Schweizer sailplane (I will use the same > arrangement on the KR and post some pictures). I had an aluminum block > mounted to the canopy frame and one mounted to the top of the fusalage. I > needed to drill the one on the fusalage with the canopy closed from inside > so it would be perfectly in line with the hole in the block mounted to the > canopy. Half way through the drill bit got stuck and my flex shaft > arrangement broke. > > Well here I was with a 1/4" drill bit locking pin holding my canopy locked > closed and no tools to get it out. After about five minutes I realized I > had my cell phone and I had to call my answering machine in the house about > 15 times to wake up my wife so she could come to the garage and get me a > pair of pliers to pull out the drill bit. I had a hell of a time getting > her to wake up and was about to call Dean Cooper and ask him to drive over > and get me out. > > Don't try this one yourself. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> HS Update
Dan wrote: > Why did you decide not to use the airfoil on the stab? Dan, I guess the short answer is personal preference. My "mission statement" for my KR is to build it as stock and light as possible. Besides the engine selection, I am only planning three structural mods: 1) Aerodynamic balances, 2) a recessed speed brake, & 3) conversion to the AS5046 airfoil for the wings. I figure the less mods means the less time building. With that said, the 3 spars for the HS came with the plane cut and ready. My understanding is most of the drag in the stock KR tail comes from the HS angle of incidence rather than the airfoil, so I decided to keep the HS stock and just add the balances. I'm certain others will disagree and that's the beauty of this plane, build it your own way... :-) ps. I'm still looking forward to seeing your KR sometime this Fall! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Digital Protractor
Netters, Anyone know where I can get a digital protractor? I've tried all of the obvious places (Sears, Home Depot, Harbor Freight, Lowes, etc). Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Digital Protractor
Mark wrote: > When all else fails, go on www.google.com and do a search on digital > protractor. Thanks everyone for the responses. I was looking for a place I could go pick one up from, but I realize now I wasn't that clear in my original request. I will look at the on-line sources. Thanks again. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> vertical / rudder spars
John wrote: > According to the plans for the -2S, the aft vertical spar, aft edge measurement is 1 1/2 inch across and the fwd of the edge rudder spar is 1 3/4 inch across. Am I measuring something wrong? Why would the measurement be a 1/4 inch difference? I would think the measurement would get smaller as you move aft. > Finally, does the bevel, that is required on the aft spar on the vertical fin so the fuselage plywood will glue flat, go or continue all the way up the spar? I think I know the answer but I want to make sure I don't mess something up. John, My plans (KR2) show the stern post to be 1 3/4" wide. I actually went out and measured mine and it is 1 3/4" on front beveled to 1 1/2" on the aft side. When you add the fuse plywood sides to it, then it's about 2" across the front beveled to 1/3/4", which is the width of the rudder spar. On the bevel question, you don't bevel the spar all the way to the top because the degree of bevel to accept the fuselage ply is different from the bevel for the airfoil. I would bevel only enough to install the stern post (about a foot or so), then as Larry suggester, glue your vertical rib template in place before shaping the rest of your stern post. I hope this answers your question. good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> of wings, stubs, and attachments
Doug wrote: > The best reason I can think of Dean is that by doing it that way the > builder would be able to go with one piece laminated spars and eliminate the > WAF's altogether. Doug, I agree, a one piece wing (or two piece bolting in the middle) is defintiely an option. As Dan put it, build it the way you want. If you built it this way, it would definitly be interesting to see. Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> HS Update
Netters, I came home from the Gathering pumped and set out to make good progress on my KR (in between dodging hurricanes). I've spent the last 2 weeks working hard on my horizontal stabilizer. It never goes as fast as you would hope. :-) You can see my progress at: http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/HS.html I still have foam and glass to do, but the woodwork is done... It's been relatively quiet today, hope all is well out in KR land. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Cheap Carbon Fiber
Netters, Brian Kraut pointed me to a distributor for discount carbon fiber. The are offering 282 5.8oz CF in 60" width for $12.50/yard. The only problem is they require orders of 50+ yards. I am considering ordering some and I wanted to know if anyone would be interested in participating in the order. Brian and I think we'll use about 30-35 yards, so we're looking for 1-3 people to pick up the rest. Please email me off net at the address below by Sunday night as I would like to make the decision on Monday whether to order that quantity or get it elsewhere. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Cheap Carbon Fiber
Steve wrote: > Can you please pass on the suppliers contact details /web address Here you go. http://www.advancedcompositetraders.com/ Steve is the guy I've been dealing with. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Gathering expenses
Larry wrote: > I'm satisfied and I hope everyone is comfortable with me reimbursing myself $100 for expenses.Most people assumed it will be the same time of year but we also have those that want an earlier date. How do we resolve the issue? Larry, Again, nice job on the gathering. I support your reimbursement for milage, etc. Also, on the date for 2005, I think you should pick a few dates that work for you and the airport and then take a vote. However, the bottom line is, as the host, you're the one doing most of the work, so it's your call in the end. If people want to attend, they work around it. Concensus will be very difficult to achieve with everyone's individual "social calendars"... :-) Thanks, again, for all of your hard work and commitment to the KR Garthering! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Spruce order
John wrote: > After having recieved the plans, and after reading the manual through - twice - I still can't find a breakdown of what timber is required. John, Here is what I found in last years Wicks catalog. The new catalog I got at the gathering didn't have the breakout. I think this is what you were looking for. Sorry for the quality of the scan (It's hard scanning from a book). It's a pdf doc (adobe reader required), so you can save it to your local machine once you pull it up. Good luck. http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Parts_List.pdf Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> short Gathering update
Brian wrote: > Now Dean Cooper and I are trying to get earlier flights back to Jacksonville > tomorrow before the hurricane hits there and we can't get back. Well, Brian and I made it back home just in time (the airports are closed tomorrow). We were really disappointed to have to leave and not be able to attend tonight's banquet, but we had to get home to protect our KR's from mother nature!! I'm sure the banquet was a blast and hopefully we will see some "incriminating" pictures later... :-) If you did not attend, you missed a great gathering. I'm already counting the days until next year... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals
Mark wrote: >Has anyone built independantly adjustable rudder pedals, and if so how? Mark, The quickest and easiest way I can think of is to make some "platform" blocks to either permanently or temporarily attach to the forward side of the passenger pedals. These could move the pedals aft 2-3 inches, while maintaining the rudder pedal attach point. Obviously, this does not address braking, which would have to be addressed differently (two completely independant pedals and brake system), but if you're looking for her to take the controls in flight, this might work. This was just what came to mind. I have not tested nor seen these in action (my disclaimer... :-) Good Luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> G-Limits - Enough already
Joe wrote: >At do you know, preferably first hand, about flying the KR2 at gross weights approaching 1300 pounds? Joe, As you can see, the value of the KRnet is that you can throw a question out there and get a lot of opinions. In some cases, your original question can mutate into another (gross weights into G limitations). To try and address your original question, the KR was designed for an 800lb gross weight. However, the average that I have seen are flying generally in the 1100-1200lb gross weight range (this is just my limited observation); however, there may be a few beyond that. Clearly, if you increase your gross weight beyond the plans (800lb), then you need to understand the consequences (ie, G limits, climb performance, etc) and MAYBE make some changes to compensate (ie, different engine, larger horizontal stabilizer, etc), but you need to do your own research as it is your life on the line. Also, as Colin stated, another important thing as you add weight is to watch your CG, it's critical you keep it forward, perferably in the forward half of the CG range. As always, your results may vary... Welcome to the KRnet.Happy building. ps. Having gathering withdrawals while trying to dodge Hurricane Jeanne... I'm going to work on the KR all day tomorrow since the weather will be terrible and my wife thought I was going to still be in Mt Vernon anyway... :-) Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> ply scarfs
Dene wrote: >Would this be acceptable, my scarf joints are all 1:20 Dene, If the scarf joint is properly done, the joint will be stronger than the plywood itself so it shouldn't be a problem. Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Carbon Fiber interference
Netters, I am working up my horizontal and vertical stabilizers and was planning to use Carbon Fiber to cover at least the control surfaces and maybe the entire tail. A couple of people have mentioned that carbon fiber interferes with radio signals. Any way to avoid this? Other thoughts? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Gathering Thursday Night
Larry wrote: > REMEMBER GUYS, "OFFICIALLY" THERE IS NO BOOZE ON THE > GROUNDS SO JUST DON'T MAKE IT TOO OBVIOUS. DON'T LEAVE > BEER CANS AROUND, ETC Campers, Don't forget to pack a coozie (in case I'm spelling it wrong, it's the foam container that your "adult beverage" slides in to make it look like a "non-adult beverage"... :-) Of course, if there's a keg, we're going to need a big coozie :-) See everyone Thurs! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Polyisocyanurate Foam
Netters, I went over to the insulation company today and had him cut me off a 2" 'slice' from the 41"x96" block. I found out it is Polyisocyanurate Foam under the brand name of "NilFram", which is in the urethane family. From what I have read up on this on the internet, "Polyiso" is the next generation polyurethane and the major difference is Polyiso has better flame retardant characteristics. It's 2.2 pound density, which adds a little weight, but I can get it whenever I need it, in whatever size, less expensive, and without shipping. Here is the brochure on it that he gave me: http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/NilFram_Brochure.pdf Also, it sands and shapes identical to the polyurethane I got from Wicks. I welcome any feedback on this. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Bill Clapp's KR2S
Mark wrote: > For those of you that can't wait to see Bill Clapp's plane at the Gathering, > see http://www.krnet.org/krs/wc/ . That's a great looking KR! I can't wait to see it in person in Mt. Vernon. To appreciate just how hard Bill has worked, here is the stage his KR was in just 10 1/2 months ago when I drove out to see it! It just shows you how quickly you can build these planes. Now, we just got get Bill to tell us his secret at the gathering :-) http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Bill_Clapp_KR2S.html Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Urethane Foam
Netters, I just got off the phone with an old friend of mine (who I haven't talk to in several years) who is in the insulation business here in Jax. I was looking for urethane foam in bulk thicknesses. He said he gets it in bun sizes 41"x 29"x 96" long and can cut it to any specifications I need. His price is $0.50 (US) per board foot (12x12x1) or $6 per cubic foot. That appears to be about 40% cheaper than Wicks with no shipping since I would pick it up. It would also be great to have one soild piece of foam for the leading and trailing edges for the wings. Is there anything I should be looking for or cautious of when buying this from a non-aviation parts company? I looked through the archives and couldn't find anything specific to this question. Thoughts? See you in Mt. Vernon! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Urethane Foam
KRron wrote: > Be aware or be square. Thanks Ron. This is actually the "pink" foam. They carve it out to insulate pipe with. I'll try to get a sample and bring it to the gathering as Ray suggested. I would appreciate any additional comments in the mean time. Thanks. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Getting ready to fly
Orma wrote: > I hope the KR net is up. I only see one post and that is unusual...Tomorrow seems as good a day as any. Orma, It has been quite today. Hopefully, everyone is busy building. Good luck on your flight tomorrow! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Re: First Flight
Wow!! Bill has made some awesome progress. I drove out to his house last October and he was in the advanced boat stage (controls, gear, tail feathers done, etc) and starting to fit his canopy, but had yet to do his turtle deck, stub wings, etc. That's great news on his first flight and I look forward to seeing it in the air! ps. It's good to hear from you Art. Brian mentioned that you moved out to West GA, hope to see you at the gathering. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Art Bruce" <kr2fl...@tds.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 9:05 PM Subject: KR> Re: First Flight > Just received a call from Bill Clapp of Valdosta, GA. Seems he's been very busy. He got his project signed off yesterday and today his baby took flight. This is the second KR he has built. He has a KR2-S tail dragger, Corvair engine, speed brake and the new airfoil. After a short hop in ground effect he lifted off and went around the pattern once before a smooth landing. He reports it flew very steadily with few control inputs needed (almost hands off)his term!!! He hopes to fly his required hours off and bring her to the Gathering, if possible. He was going to leave her with just primer, but instead, painted her and took care of the interior while waiting on the inspector. He's not on the net, but if you wish to call him with questions or atta boy's, you can reach him at 229.242.2978. Photos may follow if he can get them to me.Get it built-then go fly the thing! > Art Bruce > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> Carbon Seat
Netters, After a 4 month hiatus (Summer projects, kids stuff, etc), I finished my carbon seat today. The link is below. It's built entirely out of foam, glass, and carbon fiber and rests on the spars without any center supports. It holds me standing in the middle with minimal flexing. It's amazing how strong this stuff is. It weighs in at just shy of 4 lbs (3 lbs 15ozs). How does that compare to others? I'm not sure exactly how much the stock sling seat and all of it's hardware weighs, but this seat puts my butt about 1.25" off the bottom of the fuselage... :-) http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Seat.html See you at the gathering!! Mark J, how many days is it... :-) Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> To The Airport
Mark wrote: > Here is a link of some photos of moving my KR to the airport. Congrat's Mark on the first step to getting it airbourne!! (besides building it of course :-) The KR looks a lot bigger sitting up on a trailer behind the Grand Cherokee! Are you sure it didn't fly to the airport like a kite? Maybe that's what all the people were pointing at... :-) :-) Nice work! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Fuse is painted
Dan, Congrats on getting it painted!! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 8:42 AM Subject: KR> Fuse is painted > Well, the fuselage is painted and now we can get down to some really serious > wiring and plumbing. We will be doing a W soon after that. I can't wait. > Really pumped now. > > Going to play golf so I won't be tempted to keep peeking into the booth. > > "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for > building has long since expired." > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
Fw: KR> Fuse is painted
Sorry folks, that was meant just for Dan and I was too quick on the reply. :-) Do not archive Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Dean Cooper" <dean_coo...@bellsouth.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:55 PM Subject: Re: KR> Fuse is painted > Dan, > > Congrats on getting it painted!! > > > Dean Cooper > Jacksonville, FL > Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net > See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 8:42 AM > Subject: KR> Fuse is painted > > > > Well, the fuselage is painted and now we can get down to some really > serious > > wiring and plumbing. We will be doing a W soon after that. I can't wait. > > Really pumped now. > > > > Going to play golf so I won't be tempted to keep peeking into the booth. > > > > "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for > > building has long since expired." > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > >
KR> Happy Father's Day
Netters, For those of you with kids, Happy Father's Day! Take them flying... :-) ps. one day closer to the gathering... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> chemical safety
Vinigar works excellent to clean up Aeropoxy as well. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: <babyw...@aol.com> To: ""KRnet"" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: RE: KR> chemical safety > vinegar is a great skin cleaning solvent for T 88 glue > Garry Cowles > KR2S Boat Stage Santa Fe NM > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> Extending Diehl Legs
Phil, It was Brian Kraut who discussed it with Dan, but I believe Brian is making his own gear legs and brackets because Dan did not recommend adding length to the legs with the Diehl alum brackets. I actually cut an inch or two off of my nose gear strut to level my KR, but the extra clearence wouldn't hurt either. Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Phil Matheson" <mathe...@dodo.com.au> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: Re: KR> Extending Diehl Legs > A few weeks back, someone had been talking with Dan Diehl , and I think they > said it was Ok to extend the lower leg brackets a few inches. > I have the new Dan Diehl nose leg 4130 . it is longer than the standard, I > wanted to lift the main legs a few inches to level the KR , plus, this will > give a slight increase in prop clearance. > > > > > Phil Matheson > mathe...@dodo.com.au > VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) > 61 3 58833588 > Australia.( Down Under) > > See our VW Engines and Home built web page at > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> Diehl Nose Gear Wheel, Tire, Tube, and Axel
Rick, I have the Diehl nose gear installed. As Bud indicates below, the wheel, tube and tire are available from Wicks. Also, the axel comes with the nose gear assembly. I used a mallet to get the axel through the bearings and it wasn't near as hard as getting the main wheels on their axels. Hope this helps. Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" <c.midk...@verizon.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:48 AM Subject: Re: KR> Diehl Nose Gear Wheel, Tire, Tube, and Axel > Rick, > The wheel I was told to use is sold by Wicks. It's the AZ-1144. The tire is > a Shin 3.40 x 3.00 x 5 part # TR100-22, also available at Wicks. I had to > use a press to get the 5/8" axle through the wheel bearings. > Bud Midkiff > Lynnwood, WA > email: c.midk...@verizon.net > web: http://mysite.verizon.net/res18ums/index.html > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Richard Collins" <n88...@insightbb.com> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:12 PM > Subject: KR> Diehl Nose Gear Wheel, Tire, Tube, and Axel > > > > I ordered the Diehl Nose Gear from Dan. He informed me that neither Wicks > > or Aircraft Spruce sells the wheel, tube, tire for the assembly and that I > > should buy it from Janet. > > Does anyone have the wheel, tube, tire and/or axel they would like to > sell? > > Or, If you have a tri-gear, could you send me the specks of the tire, > tube, > > wheel and axel? > > > > You my reply off the net to n88...@insightbb.com > > > > Rick Collins, N886KR Heath Built "Little Beast" > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> Gear attach fittings
Gav wrote: > Is there any real need to flox my Deihl gear leg fittings to the spar ?? Gav, et al: I thought the brackets were floxed to avoid any vibration or shifting and also to increase the strength of the gear/spar combo? This is similar to floxing the WAF's to the spars, isn't it? Anyway, I agree with Dan and I'm not sure you would ever need to remove the gear brackets. Just a thought... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Thermostat
Netters, Does anyone know where I can get a thermostat to build a heat box? Ideally, I would like to get one I could plug a small electric heater into and have it control power to it. But, if anyone else has better ideas, I'm open to them. Thoughts?? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> SNF Pics
Netters, We had 4 KR's show up at SNF this year. I took pics of the 3 that I saw (I heard there was a 4th, but, it left before I could see it) and posted them here: http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/2004_SunNFun1.html Steve Jones' tri-gear was being photographed for Sport Aviation. It would be great if we could get the visibility on our plane! As Brian mentioned earlier, Dinner Friday night was great. Thanks to Virg for hosting. This trip has gotten me motivated and looking forward to the gathering in Mt. Vernon. Mark L / Dana O - Brian and I looked for you at Margaritaville last night with no luck... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> SNF Pics - spring driven?
Steve wrote: > Explain to me please what you mean by spring driven trim? Steve, For the rudder, he has a spring attached from the rudder pedal to an adjustment knob. By tightning or loosening the knob you add or release pressure on the pedal and, therefore, the rudder. The aileron works the same way, except it is connected to the stick instead of the rudder pedal. Looks simple and easy to use. Robert actually used the adjustment knob from a guitar, which was interesting, Hope this helps... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Dynel/Ken's KR - I think you have solved the performancemystery!!!!!
Dan Wrote: >then you will have to exercise a lot of restraint to stay on mission. well put, Dan. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Stickers
Mark L, I got my stickers today and they look great!! Thanks for doing it! Do not archive Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> Skinning spars
Mark wrote: > KR-2 calls for one sideKR-2S calls for both sides. One addition is the KR2 calls for 12" of skin on the forward side of the main spar at the WAF's in addition to full skin on the aft side of the main spar. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> cockpit size
Larry wrote: >As for the head room, build your seat first and have someone measure the >height you need while you set in the seat and built to that dimension. Also, make sure you have your headset on when you measure... :-) Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>Balancing
Ross wrote: >Also... from preflighting lots of C-152's you can see that Cessna uses small spanwise triangular weights just FWD of the hinge line. This is much more attractive than our giant lead arm... but weighs more. Ross, Netters: Along the same lines and stealing from Tony's books, I was thinking about this design: http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Aileron_Balance.html But, didn't know how much extra weight it would require or what the offset in less drag would be (in addition to the reduced risk of falling off :-) Any thoughts on this design? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>Balancing
Allen wrote: >...it is a lousy drawing - no allowance for down deflection of the aileron. Allen, The only allowance necessary is the 1/4" or so created by inserting the hinge between the two pieces of spruce (see page 88 - Drawing 71 of the KR2 Plans). Keep in mind the down deflection is only 10 degrees, which may not even need the full 1/4" gap. I realize the drawing is not necessarily drawn to scale, but it is materially correct and was a visual I threw together to demonstrate the idea. Certainly, adjustments may be needed to actually install. With that said, I would like to hear from anyone that can test your idea with the solder to understand the weight difference. Thanks. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> FAA physical
Virg, Here are the numbers for OK City: FAA Aeromedical Division 405-954-4821 FAA Medical Appeals 405-954-7675 I hope this helps. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: KR> FAA physical > At 12:09 PM 3/21/04 -0500, you wrote: > >How do I find my info? Medical Jan, no response yet, Virg > > > =+++ > > > That may take a phone call to the FAA. Contact the Dr. that did > the physical and get a phone number. > > Larry Flesner > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR>Gatherings - wakeup call
Dana wrote: > You win, see the rest of you on the flip side. Dana, I personally appreciate your contributions to the KRnet. I hope you will continue to participate. I think we can all gain value from experience, whether it be composite, sheetmetal or othewise. Thanks. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>retract tri gear
Dan, The stock retracts wouldn't give you enough ground clearance in a tricycle configuration, even if you could make the balancing and CG work. As Dan H put it, dump the retracts as they are the biggest problem IMHO with the original KR design. Converting to tri-gear is not that difficult and will give you better ground clearance and visibility for not any material difference in speed (with wheel pants). The kits offered by Diehl or Grove are simple enough to install.. Good Luck... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Dan Walker" <usafwal...@rap.midco.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:23 AM Subject: KR>retract tri gear > would it be possible to make my kr into a tri gear but still leave the > retracts in place or are the retracts to far forward for the cg to be right. > I also ground looped my kr on a high speed taxi test but I was unfortunate > to hit a runway marker light and take out my prop which I guess is better > than taking out my wing. I am having second thoughts about converting to > tri gear and if I can leave the mains how they are I will probally change > over. > > Also if there is anyone that would be willing to bring me up in there KR > so I could get a feel for the flight characteristics please let me know. > I'm in South Dakota right now but I will be in Illinois for a week in March. > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR>Dual Facet Pumps
Mark Wrote: >Butthe two tanks are identical and on the exact same > surface plane and have the exact low points for fuel pick up and are > connected by a common fuel line which the pumps feed off of...so, > theoretically both tanks should always have the same amount of fuel in them > since liquid between two tanks with a common line level themselves. Mark, Since you are feeding directly from the wing tanks with no header, your fuel pumps will always be on (?) and therefore, I'm not sure the vacuum created by the pumps will allow the tanks to level each other. My original concern was that if you sustained a leak in one tank in flight and began to lose fuel, you should be able to see it on the fuel gauges, but then not be able to shut off the bad tank in order to safely make it back to an airport. It might be a good idea to install a valve right before the line goes through the fuselage on each side that you can stick your fingers down in between the seat and the fuselage side to switch it off in an emergency. I'm sure there is a better idea out there, this was just my initial thought... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>Fw: Pitch down in slips
I wonder if the same would happen if you were already in a nose down configuration as when your on final. I look forward to additional feedback from Larry. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 10:23 AM Subject: KR>Fw: Pitch down in slips See message below from Miles Humphrey... - Original Message - From: Miles Humphrey Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 10:38 PM Subject: Pitch down in slips Mark I would like to tell you about something I heard about the pitch down in a slip. I went to talk to a person whose name I have misplaced, but he is the owner of Sky King Aviation at Chandler Field in Mesa, AZ, and is an instructor, flies anything multi-engine, jet, Bonanza, RV, Lancair, and many others and says the most interesting, most fun and neatest of them all is the KR. BUT--he was ferrying one to Maryland, packed in with his Father, when, in cruise, he noticed the ball over to one side, so he applied right rudder, the ball went to the corner, he pressed harder on the rudder and the plane pitched down so violently that he hit his head on the canopy-the more rudder, the worse it became. Not knowing what was happening, he let go of all controls and the plane recovered immediately, and in so doing noticed that his foot had slipped over on the LEFT rudder pedal on the pasenger side, so he was pressing left when he wanted to use right and thought he WAS using right. His explanation was that in cruise the KR is trying to fly tail high and the HS is therefore holding the tail down , but when he swung the plane sideways, the HS must have gotten blanked out so that it was no longer holding the tail down so up it went! And he is pretty sure of his diagnosis. If this had happened at a low altitude, he would have bought the farm. So a slip, at least a strong one , could be dangerous on approach, since Larry is experiencing exactly the same thing. The two descriptions of the circumstances and the plane's reaction are strikingly similar. If you would like to talk to this man about it he said he knew Lee Van Dyke of Mesa and that might be a way to contact him. I apologise for bothering you directly but I think this could be important. This thing Dana has started might even evolve into a sort of regional EAA Convention- and he's just the guy that can handle it! Miles Humphrey___ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>Rubber Grommets
Mark, I found some on page 3472 of McMaster-Carr's online catalog http://www.mcmaster.com/. (Part #9307K71). It's made for a 1 1/16" hole so it should work. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com> To: "KR Net" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 7:09 PM Subject: KR>Rubber Grommets Does anyone know where I can buy rubber grommets with a groove width of 1/4" , 3/4" ID for a 1" hole? I bought some from a table vendor at Airventure but need more. Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ___ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>KRnet logo stickers
I really like Chris' decal as well. Additionally, I came across this bumper sticker that my Dad had from years ago when he started the KR. http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR_Bumper_Sticker.GIF Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - > From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" <c.midk...@verizon.net> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: KR>KRnet logo stickers > > > > My favorite is the one seen on the side of Chris Gardiner's KR2S. I liked > it > > so much, I had him get his supplier to make me a couple of them for my > > project. It can be seen in the link below. > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/cgardiner.html > > > > Bud Midkiff KR2 > > Lynnwood, WA > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <jsmon...@aol.com> > > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 2:07 PM > > Subject: Re: KR>KRnet logo stickers > > > > > > >> The only KR type logo I have seen is on the RR Accessory Catalog with a > > Red > > > KR and two horizontal stripes on both sides. Are there any other ones > out > > > there??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > John S. Monday > > > KR2S > > > Laguna Beach, CA > > > ___ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > >
KR>Tri- gear conversion
Per wrote: >Would it be possible to do this by cutting the spring bar close to the bracket and moving the whole thing(bracket and the cut off part of the spring bar) to the rear face of the main spar on the stub wing Per, Am I understanding you correctly that you have a single spring bar supported by 3 brackes and you want to cut off the 2 ends (with brackets) and bolt them to the aft side of the forward spar? If so, I can't imagine that each bracket is designed to handle to pressure of a single spring. Also, I'm not sure the spring leg is designed to operate with one wheel and not count on the distribution of weight, etc. If I am understanding you correctly, then I would not go that route, but I may not be following you. If you have pictures, you can send them to me offnet and I will post them for you to show everyone. Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>contributions
Mark, et al: Thanks for handling the recognition. I can't say enough about how much value I get from this network. ps. It is disappointing that only 20 of us contributed. I realize that many people are tight on finances, but if you can afford to build a plane in first place, then you have $5-10 to pay for the service you get on this site. I hope we don't get to the point where we have to resort to charging for a subscription to keep it up... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:00 AM Subject: KR>contributions > NetHeads, > > Just thought I'd drop a line of thanks to the 20 or so people who recently > contributed some support money to the KRnet cause. For the most part, those > funds came from the same few folks who always manage to scrape something up > in support of KRnet. I ended up with about $225. I've sent a check for > $125 to Rick Maddy in an effort to give him some incentive to "keep up the > good work" maintaining our KRnet archive search engine at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp . If you haven't tried it, you > don't know that you're missing the fastest, most comprehensive resource on > KR-related material on the web. Rick emailed me yesterday saying that he > was in the process of upgrading his equipment, so the site will be more > reliable, and the searches will be even faster in the future. And he's > planning a revamp of the user interface in the future. He's a Cozy builder, > and his site is at http://www.maddyhome.com/cozy/index.jsp . I'd like to > thank him for doing this for no other reason than being asked by Larry Capps > if he'd create a search engine like the one he runs for the Cozy list. > > I'll send the remainder to George Majewski, who provides the diskspace for > the actual www.krnet.org website for free, as well as RR's site at > www.fly-kr.com . Here's another guy who just volunteered to do it for us, > and expects nothing in return, although it costs him every month. I think > it's prudent to show them our appreciation every now and then, or at least > keep them from having out-of -pocket expenses while supporting aircraft > lists that they aren't even members of, so they'll have at least some small > reason to keep up the good work! > > And thanks to Oscar for reminding us that it was time to ante up... > > Thanks a lot, > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>Instrument panel labeling
Larry wrote: >The brand name "Electro-Tag comes to > mind but I'm not sure Larry, KRnet, et al: It's a "Dymo Letra Tag". I have one I use for filing etc around the house. Works great. ps. I finished my airfoil conversion by securing the aft spar back in place over the weekend. I think I have a total of about 8 hours from the first pilot hole to start cutting to clamping the spar after it had been epoxied. Small price to pay for the increased performance... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>Engines
LJHusky1 wrote: The Results: > > > > > > ENGINE ACC PCT LOPLOP% > > > -- --- --- --- > > > Certified 332 51% 57 17% > > > Auto95 15% 27 28% > > > Non-C/4 70 11% 13 19% > > > Two-Strokes13421% 46 34% I do not have enough knowledge in this field to enter the debate, but felt it necessary to state the obvious. This is good information at a high level, but really doesn't support either side simply because "Loss of Power" is far too vague to explain which is a better engine design. For example, what about fuel starvation? This has to explain a number of the accidents and may nothing to do with the engine itself. Also, It's unclear from the email if the study only looked at experimental aircraft. Obviously, when you have Joe Homebuilder building the plane in his garage, it is going to be subject to inconsistent results. Some builders will build the firewall forward wrong and show up on an NTSB report. If the study is not specific to experimentals, then I would expect these results, simply because I suspect you will have a higher number of accidents in training aircraft (certified engines), due to pilot error, which drives your numerator up and your percentage for loss of power accidents down. Another obvious point, the plans call for an auto conversion (VW) engine... This should not be taken to be an attack on the author, Just stating the obvious (at least to me) :-) ps. What about a prop strike which results in loss of power :-) Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>Conversion to AS5046 airfoil
Netters, Well, I decided to convert to the new AS5046 airfoil. Thanks to some insight from Les Criscillo on exactly how to go about it, I have successfully cut out my aft spar. It took me about 2 hours to cut it out and clean up the joints. I just got back from Kinko's, where they printed up the airfoil templates for $11.37 with tax. Now it's on to cutting out the new ribs and re-securing the aft spar to the fuselage. I have taken pictures through the process and will post once it is complete. Happy building Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>Calendars
Netters, While I was at CopyMAX earlier this week, I saw a brochure about personalized calendars (the spiral bound type) and inquired. They advised me to bring 13 digital pictures (12 months + cover) and they would make them up for the following cost: QtyUnit Cost 1 $24.99 2-11$19.99 12-50 $15.99 51+ $12.99 If we got 51 or more, it would be about $14 a calendar. I thought people were willing to pay $20, which would be $6 a calander going towards the gathering fund. Steve, are you still interested in to doing this if we get enough interest? KRnet, is there still interest? If not, I'll drop it... Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>KR static system el cheapo
>From Dana's description > >it sounds like you "pull" the rivet but I wonder if you couldn't > >just epoxy the rivet in the wood skin with a small amount of > >epoxy on the exterior, under the head, and leave the shank intact. > >The hose connection on the inside would also tend to hold it in place > >if the rivet doesn't push out when installing the hose. > > > >Larry Flesner I'm not sure exactly what they are called, but another solution is to pick up one of those washer/clips that are made of spring steel that slide on one way and the friction prevents them from coming off. You could use one of those over the shaft of the rivet on the inside of the fuselage without having to pull the mandrel through distorting the rivet shaft. I think they're only a few cents at Lowes, Home Depot, etc in the specialty hardware drawers. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>Landing Gear
Netters, Well, my first New Year's resolution was to get the landing gear on my KR before I had to return to work tomorrow. I'm happy to say I completed that resolution! I want to extend my appreciation to Dan H, Mark J, Mark L, and Dan D for your help and advice with various questions. Being a "newbie", It was really great to have some knowledgeable builders to ask and I appreciate it! Here are the links to the pages if you're interested: http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Landing_Gear.html http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Wheels_Brakes.html Also, with this conversion to tri-gear, I have a tailwheel for sale. It's a 4" full swivel/steerable tailwheel that was new when installed and has never seen a runway. It looks exactly like the one in the Aircraft Spruce catalog on page 224 (part P/N L-691). It has a 45 degree angle with a bowed 1.25" x 13" spring along with all of the hardware. This is perfect for a grass strip set-up or can even go on a different airplane. The tailwheel can accept a 1.5" spring if desired. The tailwheel and spring new go for approx $270. I am selling for $125 plus shipping. Please email me off net at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net if interested. Here is the link to see it: http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Tailwheel.html ps. Mark L, My $20 will be sent through paypal in next couple of days when the transfer of funds is finalized. Thanks for your support of the KRnet! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>Waf's
Gavin wrote: >does this 4130 steel rust or not? >nose gear...I assume it's about 1" dia but what should the wall thickness be ( what is Dan Diehl using ?) Gavin, 4130 will rust so it will need to be protected. The nose strut that Diehl sells is 4130 heat treated tubing. The drawings that I got with mine did not have the precise measurements, so I put a tape measure on it and it's 1.25" tubing and looks to be about 3/32 thick (0.09375"). I hope this helps. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR> H/S spars strenght
Bernie wrote: >In the KR2S supplementary drawings there is nothing shown for HS spars Does this mean that the KR2 and KR2S HS spar dimensions are identical? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@msn.com See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>IT PASSED
Congrats Larry! Thanks for sharing the news. Look forward to hearing about your first flight! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@msn.com See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: larry flesner To: KRnet Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:03 PM Subject: KR>IT PASSED
KR> H/S spars strenght
Phil wrote: >I have increased my H/Stabilizer spars 12 inches, Some have told me to >increase the spar size and strength, others say here is no need. >Any advise would be welcomed I would appreciate the advice as well. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@msn.com See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>Kr plans
Peter wrote: >Does anybody know if they are closed for the >holidays or something? I have requested information from them on two occasions. In both cases, I got the information, but it took weeks to get it. My guess is they are a very small shop and it wouldn't surprise me if they were closed all week for the holiday. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@msn.com See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html
KR>A/C Spruce
Re: KR>Price wicks A/C SpruceNetters, I sent an email to Jim Irwin, President of A/C Spruce, with some excerpts from some of the emails posted a few days back. While I have had great service from Wicks as well, I would like A/C Spruce to match their service and quality so we can keep our options open. With that goal, I sent the feedback to their President. Anyway, here is his feedback. I didn't provide anyone's email address, so if you have any specific concerns you want to address with him, you can email him directly at j...@aircraftspruce.com. I hope this is helpful. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@msn.com See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html - Original Message - From: Jim irwin To: Dean Cooper Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:59 PM Subject: Re: KR>Price wicks A/C Spruce To: Dean Cooper Dean- Thanks for sending us the postings from the KR web site. We do monitor a lot of the builder websites and always reply to all comments on Aircraft Spruce (good or bad) but we had not seen the two you sent. If you know the email addresses for these two builders, please let me have them so I can respond. Aircraft Spruce handles a large volume of orders each week and 96% of the orders ship the same day they are placed. Orders for cut materials such as spruce, metal, etc. can take a few days but rarely would an order take 6 weeks. I am sure that we could have filled the order for the spruce very quickly and a sales rep must have been mistaken regarding the time involved, and I am sorry that it resulted in a lost order and a dissatisfied customer. We work very hard to provide excellent service for all of our customers, and I am sure that you will find the service from Aircraft Spruce to be to your satisfaction. We do understand the need for fast service to builders and we deliver it each day. We also guarantee the lowest prices on all products, and the quality of the products we provide is the best in the business. Again, thanks for bringing this matter to my attention. I look forward to your reply and we hope to be of service to you throughout your project. Regards, Jim Irwin President, Aircraft Spruce
KR>advice
Netters, Thanks for all the colorful emails. :) Clearly, the consensus is I need to get my weight down below at least 200 lbs to ensure this is a 2 place A/C. I will make that my goal. I appreciate everyone's responses. Some in particular were very informative. Thanks. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2.html - Original Message - >Well now I'm convinced, maybe I'll set my gross weight at 2400 lbs and only >fly 1g maneuvers (take off will be tricky, i admit). >After all, the plane fly's just great at 2400 lbs, just as long as I keep >that CG centered >:) >Larry A Capps I'm sure you're exaggeration is to make a point or else you missed a line or two in my post. To review: " I would say that within reason, CG takes priority over total weight." "Additional weight will certainly hurt performance but the airplane should be flyable, again within reason." "Let common sense prevail !!" I think we would all agree that 2400 lbs is beyond REASON and COMMON SENSE for a KR 2 as designed by Ken Rand. Larry Flesner ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>advice
Netters, I'm looking for some advice. I am 6' and weigh about 238 lbs. I will get down to about 210-220 lbs before my plane is finished and probably sooner if I ever want a chance to fly in one sooner. I am building a stock KR2 and have ordered tri-gear. - What structural modifications should I consider (ie, larger stabilizers, etc) to ensure this is a 2 place aircraft for my size? Obviously with a smaller passenger... - Should I heavily consider one engine over another? - Any other ideas? You can email me off net at dean_coo...@msn.com. Thanks. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2.html
KR>advice
Great. So, what you're telling me is this plane has a 224 lb capacity for the pilot and passenger If that's the case, exactly how is anyone flying this as a 2 place A/C (other than bringing their dog along for the ride)? I guess if I want a two place A/C, I need to set this one out on the curb on trash day and start over Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2.html - Original Message - Loose a limb. Empty weight (*) 520 lbs. 24 gal fuel wt 144 lbs. Pilot weight 220 lbs. Baggage 12 lbs. 896 lbs. Gross weight 900 lbs. You may now carry a 4 lb passenger. Larry A Capps Naperville, IL *cough -Original Message- I'm looking for some advice. I am 6' and weigh about 238 lbs. I am building a stock KR2 and have ordered tri-gear. ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>RR Dual Stick
Netters, Does anyone have any pictures of the dual stick assembly sold by RR that they could point me to? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2.html
KR>KR Parts
Netters, If anyone has any KR2 parts they are looking to sell (ie, canopy, turtledeck, controls, wing skins, gear, fuel tank, etc.), please email me off-net at dean_coo...@msn.com. Thanks. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL
KR>(no subject)
Are there any KR owners/builders within 1 hour of Jacksonville, Florida? I have acquired a partially built KR2 that my dad, Jim Cooper, started 25 years ago (Plans #569) and was looking to get some advise from any local builders. Any help would be appreciated. You can email me directly at the address below. Thanks! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email to: dean_coo...@msn.com
