Re: KR> engine progress

[Paul Visk via KRnet]

The way it's going Larry you'll be in contention for the firewall foward trophy 
in Lee Summit. 


Paul Visk Belleville Il.
618-406-4705
 Original message From: Larry Flesner via KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Date: 1/29/17  2:59 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Larry Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> Subject: KR> 
engine progress 



I've spent the last several days cleaning and painting engine 
parts.  Progress, one piece at a time. I hope to be flying by March 1 
or I'll be out of money. :-(

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/20170129_110232.jpg

Larry Flesner


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KR> Progress!

[Paul Visk via KRnet]

Finally the Rt.aileron is made. The counter wieght came out really well.  Once 
I got the lead melted I poured it into a wooden box that I made in about 2 
minutes with my brad nailer. This weight was a little lite.  So made it a 
little wider and it came out perfect. 


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Re: KR> Melting lead

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My wife says I've had it for years. 

Paul Visk Belleville Il.
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》Lead poisoning sneaks up on you first as memory loss or lack of ability to 
》》》concentrate.
I think I have lead poisoning.
Joe Nunley Baker Florida 


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Re: KR> Melting lead

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Thanks for all the advice from one pothead.  I guess I was a little impatient. 
I'll cut this hunk down into littler pieces. That will help. 

Paul ViskBelleville Il.
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KR> Melting lead

[Paul Visk via KRnet]

First a comment before my question.  In the book it says to use an old pot to 
melt lead down for the aileron counter weight.  I'll give you some advise. What 
you consider an old pot is might be different then what your wife considers an 
old pot is. Be forewarned

How do you melt a 5 lbs chunk of lead on the stove? I did an internet search.  
Lead melts at 621 degrees.  I'm not even getting close to that.


Paul Visk 

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Re: KR> wheel alignment

[Paul Visk via KRnet]

Larry wrote:  width ?  Generally speaking the wider the better and the more 
length 
from mains to tail wheel the better.
But not too wide.  The maximum width you can be on the road when you trailer it 
with out permits is 8'6". 
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Re: KR> Archives

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My DAR ,Frank Baldwin from Troy Mo. Doesn't charge anything. Only thing that he 
requires is that you participate in Young Eagles.  Which I'm already doing.  


Paul Visk Belleville Il.
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 Original message From: Ronald Wright via KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Date: 1/25/17  5:50 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Cc: Ronald Wright <ronwrig...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: 
KR> Archives 
Why do you even need a DAR during the build?  3 visits, for what?  The FSDO in 
your city will come out for free if you can ahead and get on their schedule for 
a final inspection, which is all that is required (unless the rules have 
changed)??.
RonSt. Louis, MO

  From: bjoenunley via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org>
 To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> 
Cc: bjoenunley <bjoenun...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: KR> Archives
   
》DAR.  He charges $500 per 》inspection visit and usually takes 3 visits.
Our local DAR charges $600 and will only visit once.(although he is a friend so 
he has visited early in the process for free)
》To my surprise the 
》inspector was a helicopter pilot
Those helicopter pilots can be pretty good guys.

Joe Nunley Baker Florida 



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Re: KR> DAR inspections

[Paul Visk via KRnet]

Here in the US. It is NOT recommended to buy a project under construction 
without a builders log.  The thing is you have to prove that 51% of the 
airplane by amateurs and without a log there's no way to prove.  From what I've 
heard Canada has a much more stringent process. My opinion, do not buy it 
without a builders log. You're buying nothing but a problem. 

Paul Visk Belleville Il.
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 Original message From: Robert Russell via KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Date: 1/22/17  8:05 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Cc: pi...@mymts.net Subject: KR> DAR inspections 
Hi All; 
I am considering a project in the U.S. that has no documentation whatsoever and 
am wondering about DAR inspections. 
I want to import this project into Canada and our inspections require a pre 
cover (before box spars etc,are closed in) . 
What I am wondering is if I might find a number or something that shows it was 
done in the U.S . 
In Canada each component is stamped or stickered to show it has been done. 
The project is fairly complete all spars are closed, wings closed etc.although 
it would still meet 51% requirement here in Canada. 
I f I can show the inspections I an import as parts and then continue it. 
Any thoughts about this? 
Thanks 
Bob R 
Winnipeg 
Canada 
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Re: KR> Aileron hinge bolts and BID

[Paul-Visk via KRnet]

Tucker,
I'm planning on the two step possess as you described. Also instead of  
using 1 layer of 5.5 oz. glass. I'm using multiple layers of deck cloth so  I 
can get a tighter corners. 
 
Paul Visk
Belleville Il.
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In a message dated 1/20/2017 3:38:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
krnet@list.krnet.org writes:

Hi  all,

On this note, I did the 8/32 pan head off-set; results to follow  the next
installation:

The next steps for the aileron attachment in  the plans call for Flox the
attachment nut,  

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Re: KR> Aileron hinge bolts

[Paul Visk via KRnet]

Thanks for the advice guys. Jeff, I thought that was an unique Air Force  
unsanctioned trick that we used to do years ago. : )

Paul Visk Belleville Il.
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 Original message From: Jeff Scott via KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Date: 1/20/17  8:30 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Jeff Scott <jscott.pla...@gmx.com> Subject: Re: KR> 
Aileron hinge bolts 
Either method works just fine.  I chose to counterbore the hinges and used 
flush screws with the screws offset between the aileron and the wing.  
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KR> Aileron hinge bolts

[Paul Visk via KRnet]

I'll be ordering my aileron hardware from Wicks soon. In looking in the book at 
10.59. It says to use 8/32 pan head bolts for the aileron hinge. Has anyone had 
problems with sufficient clearance between the heads of the bolts if they're 
lined up with each other?  Or should they be offset. I believe I've seen some 
people use countersunk bolts. Any advice would be appreciated. 


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Re: KR> engine update

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Oscar wrote: At 12:02 AM 1/17/2017, you wrote:>I do not see any masking tape 
with handwritten labels on any wires 
>or cables on the firewall, no yellow note-pad with items to remember 
>to take care of in reverse order when re-assembling,---

My daughter in law's father how is a A inspector at Delta took me on a 
personal tour of the maintenance complex in Atlanta. It was amazing at there 
engine overhaul stations. They had shadow boards for every part of an engine in 
the order it was removed with part numbers for quick reference.  It was very 
organized. 
Paul Visk Belleville Il.
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 Original message From: Larry Flesner via KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Date: 1/17/17  7:11 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Cc: Larry Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> Subject: Re: 
KR> engine update 
At 12:02 AM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
>I do not see any masking tape with handwritten labels on any wires 
>or cables on the firewall, no yellow note-pad with items to remember 
>to take care of in reverse order when re-assembling,
+

You've got a point, Oscar.  I'm not concerned about the wires and 
hoses, they're pretty obvious, but  there were several items I made 
"mental" notes about reverse order on install and which bolts had 
tabs attached for securing cables, etc. and the "mental" notes are a 
bit hard to read this morning.  Maybe another cup of coffee and a 
sweet roll will remove some of the blurriness...

As for the hangar, I'm lucky to be in the FBO heated and well lit 
hangar and the cleanliness is just a matter of picking up after 
myself.  After 49 years of marriage some training is hard to ignore. :-)

Larry Flesner


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KR> Flipping your plane over

[Paul Visk]

It took along time to decide what service to do first then second. Both wings 
are build. I had to take into account that I had to move everything around in 
the garage every time I flip.?The heated Hangar would be nice now. : )?

Paul Visk?Belleville Il.
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 Original message From: Larry Flesner via KRnet  Date: 12/17/16  3:33 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet  Cc: Larry Flesner  Subject: Re: KR> 
Flipping your plane over 
At 01:11 PM 12/17/2016, you wrote:
>I flipped my plane over this morning to fiberglass the underside 
>before our second round of ice starts this afternoon.
++

I did the top of my wings and then detached them from the fuselage to 
rotate and glass the bottom.? I never had to flip the boat.

Larry Flesner 


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KR> Flipping your plane over

[Paul Visk]

I flipped my plane over this morning to fiberglass the underside before our 
second round of ice starts this afternoon. ?If you haven't flipped, your's yet 
this is how it's done using Mark L.'s ?flip a?flip-o-matic. ??
???https://youtu.be/uPFjCtnjlKM


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KR> Test

[Paul Visk]

Test

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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 318

[Paul Visk]

Collins said:Paul, when you say you are doing the final prep to fiberglass the 
top of your rt. wing...? You do mean top and leading edge and bottom of the 
leading edge back to the rear of the lower exposed main spar all in one go I 
presume?
?My final prep consistent of fillings voids and checking the spars for high 
spots.?I fiberglassed the top of the Rt wing today. ?The plans call for two 
?BID layers from the fwd spar around the leading edge to three inches below the 
L/E cordline and one layer from the fwd spar to the T/E. ?I didn't like the how 
the edge of the ?two layers ended just below the L/E. So I extended the second 
layer back to the back edge of the bottom side of the fwd spar. I'll do the 
same when I do the bottom wing.?


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KR> Update, fiberglassing Rt. Wing

[Paul Visk]

Doing the final prep to fiberglass the top of my rt. wing. ?I made a heat box 
to cover the entirewing. So the winter isn't going to slow me down.?In this 
pic, I'm checking and sanding were needed the spars to make sure I don't end up 
with any infamous KR bumps.

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KR> Fwd: Carb shaft

[Paul Visk]

D,?1505 N Front St., Niles, Michigan 49120-3933, run by Russ, phone (269) 
684-4440

Paul Visk?Belleville Il.
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 Original message From: Pat Shows via KRnet  Date: 12/8/16  9:38 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: "billjacobs386 at 
yahoo.com via KRnet"  Cc: Pat Shows  Subject: KR> Fwd: Carb shaft 
What is the contact info for rebuilding the MP3 carburetors?
: Carb shaft
> 
> 
>? I'm in need of a throttle shaft for the carb on my Cardinal, do u have or 
>know where I may get one.? Checked with the factory and don't have it.? Thanks.
> 
> IHS PaTS
> Seminary MS
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KR> Wicks gift certificates

[Paul Visk]

The people that picked the Wicks gift certificates at the Gathering. ?Please 
call me. ?I need to give you some additional information.?
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KR> flying to Mexico and points south

[Paul Visk]

I think a better place to fly to then Mexico is the Bahamas. ?All we need to do 
is to have a gathering in Florida. Then we could fly to Freeport for lunch. 
?It's only 90 mile from West Palm Beach. ? I talked to some people at this 
year's Gathering. There is interest. : )
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KR> Foam

[Paul Visk]

A better source for AN970 washers is Wick Aircraft. There washers are a lot 
cheaper and they are a bigger supporter of the KR movement.?
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Yes, use 
washers 
ht:craftspce.com/cataloan970flatwashers.phpckkey=3019 
and replace the foam, sand to shape, and glass.? Do about a 2 inch 
overlap on the glass patch.

Larry Flesner?

KR> Foam

[Paul Visk]

Cody said: I"m trying to install a diehl main gear in place ?the conventional 
retract gear on my kr2. My question is do i need to replace all the foam.
There is one nice thing about the KR. ?The foam is vary forgiving. Were ever 
there's a hole just square up the hole and glue in a new piece foam with some 
mico and fiberglass resin then glass over it. You ?can even glue in foam with a 
glue gun.My opinion on washers is that whenever you have a load bearing bolts 
going though wood. You use a fender washer. ?Otherwise by the time you get the 
required torque you have damaged the wood.?
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KR> Texting ac

[Paul Visk]

KR> Dave Mullins

[Paul Visk]

Does someone have Dave Mullins email address? I'm trying to get a bigger file 
of the picture on the gathering home page." He took the picture" ?I'd like to 
make 8x11's to send out with a thank you note.?


Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705Ppaulvsk at aol.com?
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Date: 09/18/2016  3:28 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KR EMAIL BOARD  
Cc: Paul Visk  
Subject: KR> Dave Mullins 


??? 
Dave Mullins,Can you send me your email addres?


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KR> KR Gathering History

[Paul Visk]

Thank you BrantI have copied and pasted alot of them into my text to speech app 
and listen to them going down the road.?

CopiedPaul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705
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From: Brant Hollensbe via KRnet  
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Date: 09/21/2016  7:42 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: bhollensbe at mchsi.com 
Subject: KR> KR Gathering History 

I was reading the KR newsletter #73 and discovered the first KR Gathering was 
on 13&14 June 1981 at Santa Rosa, CA.? It was called the National KR Fly-in, 
due to liability issues the name was changed to National KR Get to Gather in 
1987.? Issue #70 has a cool flyer advertising the event.? There is a so much in 
these KR Newsletters!
This year was the 35th anniversary of the KR Gathering.

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KR> EAA webinar

[Paul Visk]

Tonight's EAA webinary is Weather for Dummies. I'm definitely going to listen 
to this one.?
http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-education-and-resources/aviation-videos-and-aviation-photos/eaa-webinars

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KR> Research-Gathering history

[Paul Visk]

?I'm sitting here writing notes for the Sport Aviation article I'm writing. Can 
someone come up with what year the first KR Gathering was?Also, if you have a 
short thought that would fit into the story about this years gathering. ?Sent 
it to me at ppaulvsk at aol.com?
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KR> Dave Mullins

[Paul Visk]

Dave Mullins,Can you send me your email addres?


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KR> Stop over on the way home

[Paul Visk]

Ken wrote: Nice project Paul. Some how your lights ended up in my pockets
Ken, I saw that. : )My wing tip lights from Wicks.
http://aircraftproducts.wicksaircraft.com/item/all-categories/aveo-led-wingtip/ave-wpstg-r-201?plpver=10=100=3428=keyword?
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??

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KR> Stop over on the way home

[Paul Visk]

Ken, Mike and Ray stopped over for a visit on the way home from Mt Vernon.?It 
was a vary productive for all of us.?Thanks for the visit guys.

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KR> KR Poll Results

[Paul Visk]

Active builders ?51Flying this year. 4Flying next year 14Flying now. ? ? ? ?34
I personally believe we have more active flyers.
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KR> Gathering Reminder

[Paul Visk]

Remember, tomorrow at the end of business day you will need to have your orders 
into Wick's so they can bring them out to the Gathering and not be charged for 
shipping.


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KR> Gathering

[Paul Visk]

Mike wrote: ?I'm having trouble getting the hang of this tail dragger stuff. 
?
That's a good call Mike. ?With all the work you put into it don't want to risk 
it.What airplanes did ?you get your tailwheel endorsement in?


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KR> gathering

[Paul Visk]

You guys flying in be careful. Thursday is going to be a beautiful day.


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From: n357cj via KRnet  
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Date: 09/13/2016  11:41 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
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Cc: n357cj  
Subject: KR> gathering 

2... I say 2 more days... Yeeehaa...
N357CJ

KR> Credit cards at the Gathering

[Paul Visk]

Larry, ?I can't remember, ?Are you set up for credit cards the to for the 
banquet and the hats and shirts or just cash or checks.

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KR> Gathering update

[Paul Visk]

I just got off the phone with Donny from the restaurant at the airport. He will 
add the drinks for the buffets for free. That is a $2.00 savings. The only 
stipulation is that Larry has to bring his guitar. So Larry I hope you don't 
forge. ?: )?Also for the people flying in. The 20 cent discount for fuel will 
be taken off at the time of purchase. Just mention you are there for the 
Gathering.?
Last thing, Scott Wick from Wicks Aircraft will bring orders placed by Thursday 
Sep.15, 2016 to the Gathering with him on Friday. So if you want free shipping 
just mention it when you order.?
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KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame

[Paul Visk]

?That should have said "good clamp design". You do want even pressure over the 
entire firewall. With were the firewall is there is no obvious place to clamp 
it down. ?
I have seen pictures of builders shaving a little off the front of the frame 
with a router to get a perfect glue joint with the fire wall.

You always want to let the epoxy soak into both surfaces before lightly 
clamping down.?

And if you get squeeze out, you know your joint is not starved
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From: Larry Flesner via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 09/08/2016  6:56 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Larry Flesner  
Subject: Re: KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame 


What is a "pic limping" design?? Also,? when using epoxy you don't?Larry

KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame

[Paul Visk]

Use T-88. Make sure you have a pic limping design. You want to get good squeeze 
out all over the place. ?That is a very important joint


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From: "Elrod, Larry  Ann Arbor via KRnet"  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 09/08/2016  2:05 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Cc: "Elrod, Larry  Ann Arbor"  
Subject: KR> Attach Wood firewall to frame 

?how do you attach the wood firewall to the wood frame? Glue,?

Larry Elrod

KR> KR Poll, last chance

[Paul Visk]

I was somewhat overwhelmed with the response. I didn't know we had that many 
active builders. ?Which is awesome. ?The response from the active flyers was 
little on the weak side. ? Maybe they are too busy flying there KR's. : )So, If 
you haven't responded to the poll yet. ?Send me an email off net to ?ppaulvsk 
at aol.com. ?
Put in the subject line.
" A" for active builders
" T" for first flight this year?
" N" for first flight next year
",F" ?for flying KR's
I will give out the results at the gathering and then post them.

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KR> Firewall

[Paul Visk]

?Fiberfrax Firewall Material from Wicks and a piece of stainless steel sheet 
.016" thick. ?I tried to find some .005" SS shim stock, but couldn't find it 
wide enough.

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From: Mike Arnold via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 09/07/2016  8:30 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Mike Arnold  
Subject: KR> Firewall 

What are you guys using to build up the firewall? Specifics.
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KR> Kitplane KR Gathering article

[Paul Visk]

If I recall, there was a kitplane article on the 2014 Chino Gathering. ?I'm not 
able to find it. Can someone help me.


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KR> Fuel gauges- senders

[Paul Visk]

Phillip wrote: I am about to make long outter wing tanks for my 2ss and would 
like to hear from flyers that have solved the problem of what senders to use 
and calibrating the long tapering wing tanks to get reasonable 
accuracy.;x
?I'm using?PRINCETON CAPACITANCE FUEL PROBES. You set the empty level and the 
full level and it does the rest. When you other them from Aircraft Spruce they 
will ask you what length you want. The longer they are the more accurate they 
are.?

http://m.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/princefuelprobes.php


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 Original message 
From: Phillip Matheson via KRnet  
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Date: 09/04/2016  2:27 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Phillip Matheson  
Subject: KR> Fuel gauges- senders 

I am about to make long outter wing tanks for my 2ss and would like to hear 
from flyers that have solved the problem of what senders to use and calibrating 
the long tapering wing tanks to get reasonable accuracy. 
I have spoken to Larry about is extra long senders he used, but he still can't 
get good readings.
I have even considered sight glasses on the inside? the of fuselage. Thanks in 
advance

Phillip Matheson 
Australia 

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> 
> 
>?

KR> Poll

[Paul Visk]

The poll response is going really well. I didn't know there were that many 
active builders. ?I know there are some of you haven't responded yet. So please 
do.?Just email me at ppaulvsk at aol.com.In the subject line put
?" A" for active builders. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?"T" for 
first flight this year. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?" N" for first 
flight next year. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? "F" for active ?KR flyersI 
will give out the results at the gathering.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Paul Visk?Belleville IL 
?618 406 4705
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KR> KR2 world tour.

[Paul Visk]

krii worldtour


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From: sparksfly2ms--- via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 09/01/2016  5:17 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: sparksfly2ms at cox.net 
Subject: Re: KR> KR2 world tour. 

Yep, watching him on facebook;






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Sent: ?Thursday?, ?September? ?1?, ?2016 ?3?:?01? ?PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Mac McConnell-Wood





Anyone following Colin Hales world tour?

KR> FAA inspection

[Paul Visk]

Good luck Mike. I see you're planning I'm flying into the Gathering. You're 
going to be busy.
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From: Mike Sylvester via KRnet  
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Date: 09/01/2016  6:22 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Mike Sylvester  
Subject: KR> FAA inspection 

Morning Guys, Today is the day. 9 years in the making?

KR> KR roll over protection

[Paul Visk]

I made mine with alternating carbon fiber cloth and 1/8" foam. It was tested by 
standing on the bow with 300 lbs of weight. I have more pic's at home ?if 
desired.https://flic.kr/p/s3kGAQhttps://flic.kr/p/tcLYa3
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KR> KR Poll

[Paul Visk]

I think it would be fun to find out how many active KR builders there currently 
are. I'll let you determine for yourself if you consider yourself active.?Next 
, if you had your first flight this year or you are planning to have it next 
year.?
Just email me at ppaulvsk at aol.com.In the subject line put" A" for active 
builder" T" for first flight this year?" N" for first flight next yearI will 
give out the results at the gathering.

Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705
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KR> switch labeling

[Paul Visk]

I got the switch that Mark replaced it with.


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 Original message 
From: Larry Flesner via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 08/20/2016  3:54 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Larry Flesner  
Subject: Re: KR> switch labeling 

At 03:33 PM 8/20/2016, you wrote:
>That is why I followed Mark's design. One flip of the switch, changes
>ignition, fuel pump and battery.

++

If that's the design, I'd certainly want a VERY RELIABLE "one" 
switch.? Is that the switch that failed on Mark (on the ground, 
thankfully) that kept him from making the California trip?

Larry Flesner

KR> Flying on Top

[Paul Visk]

Dan said: ? I don't think that "flying on top" is what got him killed.? I think 
that itwas running out of gas
?Whanever I was doing an IFR cross country flight. I would always get an "VFR 
on top" clearance. This gives me VFR freedom and still be able to maintain my 
IFR flight plan. ?My opinion for VFR pilots flying "VFR over the top" should 
have at a minimum an attitude reference device and know now to keep the top 
side up in IMC. Just in case they have an unplanned descent.?
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KR> Experienced with Solid Works at the Gathering

[Paul Visk]

Here is Charlie Becker reply.?I misunderstood him.
?PaulI am talking about Solidworks but I was thinking we could have a 
workstation set up with it to let someone who really knows (I don?t) it show it 
off.? I was not
 planning to do it during my talk on certification.
?
Thanks,Charlie?

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From: Tony King via KRnet  
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Date: 08/17/2016  7:34 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Tony King  
Subject: Re: KR> Experienced with Solid Works at the Gathering 

Are you sure he's talking about Solid Works? That's a 3D CAD and modelling 
tool. I'm trying to imagine how a presentation about registering an aircraft 
might be delivered using that tool.

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> On 18 Aug 2016, at 10:30 AM, Paul-Visk via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll talked to Charlie Becker from EAA today. He is doing a forum? Saturday 
> afternoon.
> 
> 
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KR> Facet pumps in series

[Paul Visk]

Larry said: ?With the discussion on fuel pumps I drew up a very simple diagram 
of?>my system. 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/fuel%20system%20001.jpg

Here is a picture of my first layout of my duel facet fuel pump design. ?I got 
it from flycorvair.com. ?I ended up with something diferant with the same pumps.
https://flic.kr/p/AoAMfe

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From: Larry Flesner via KRnet  
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Date: 08/16/2016  7:46 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Larry Flesner  
Subject: Re: KR> Facet pumps in series 

KR> Cross country planning and a KR

[Paul Visk]

Last weekend I had my first flight review in 24 years. My instructor was a 
friend from my EAA chapter.? He?wanted me to plan a 100 mile?XC. 
So I did. All on my Avare GPS app,?E6B app and my weather app. I thought I 
did a good job.? Well he didn't like it.? He wanted me to do it the 
old way.? With a sectional, a plotter and a wiswheel and a phone call to 
flight service for a weather briefing. ?And god forbid?if 
I?opened my GPS in flight.
After he signed my log book. We talked about it. He said the most pilots 
still plan on paper and use paper sectionals in flight.
My question to you KR pilots is how do you?plan XC's? Do you use 
programs,?Apps?like foreflight and others or a combination of 
both.? or?do you just?use?paper? Just curious.

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KR> LED Strobe lights

[Paul Visk]

If you look in the Wicks catalog in the light section. Around page 152 (I'm 
looking at an old catalog) they have the different categories of antique 
illusion stroke systems that are acceptable. Looks like you want to do Fig 3. 
I'm doing figure 4.with a tail light.


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From: S via KRnet  
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Date: 08/14/2016  11:27 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Cc: S  
Subject: KR> LED Strobe lights 

KRNetters,

I am considering placing a single strobe flasher on top of the fin. I found 
there are few LED flash strobes available from different sources, any of you 
having experience with that? Are these LED strobes accepted by the FAA for 
experimental aircrafts?

Thanks in advance,

Stefan Balatchev
Ottawan ON, Canada
s_sbal "at" hotmail.com
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KR> Smooth Prime problems

[Paul Visk]

?Rob wrote:
... My 1st finish paint job was sprayed on using a "Boat"
acrylic enamel.? That didn't last. My second paint job was Stewart Systems
and it seems to be holding up much better (rolled on).

A reminder to everyone. ?Stewart Systems will be doing a forum Saturday morning 
at the Gathering

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KR> Smooth Prime problems

[Paul Visk]

I have found following this way is easy and alot cheaper.
http://curedcomposites.com/finish.html


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From: Gary via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 08/10/2016  10:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Gary  
Subject: Re: KR> Smooth Prime problems 

On 8/10/2016 7:53 PM, Pete Klapp via KRnet wrote:
> Netters
>
> Several weeks ago, Mike Sylvester posted an email about the problem he had 
> sanding the parts had previously primed. What form of Smooth Prime was he 
> referring to? The earlier version was a catalyzed formula and the present 
> version sold by Aircraft Spruce is in a water-borne formula. I'm about to use 
> some on my turtledeck, fwd deck and tail feathers. Any suggestions or pit 
> falls to be aware of with the water-borne variety?
>
> Pete Klapp, Canton, OH
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KR> Small Vendors and tasteless remarks

[Paul Visk]

Ok, ?I guess I'm going to have to chime in one more time. ?My opinion Steve and 
?NVArow has done more for the kr2 movement than anyone else and with him 
getting the rights (I guess) to the plans. He can keep them in stock so he can 
ship them them alot faster.?The issues I have for ANY company is that they take 
your money and don't comuicate with you when there is a unreasonable delay. ?I 
understand things can held up or not under there control. But when this happens 
the company has a responsibility to keep their customers informed.?
Again just my opinion.?Excuse my grammar. ?I'm not a very good writer.?


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From: Jeff Scott via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 08/10/2016  4:39 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Cc: Jeff Scott  
Subject: KR> Small Vendors and tasteless remarks 

Well kids, I'd suggest some restraint the keyboard.? As Marc Baca eloquently 
explained, many of these small business guys are doing what they do for 
practically nothing... or less, because they love sharing the knowledge they 
have accumulated.? It does none of us any good to denigrate them or their work. 


-Jeff Scott
?
---?
?
It must be a southern California thing.?

KR> RST Engineering

[Paul Visk]

It must be a southern California thing. : )


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From: Doran Jaffas via KRnet  
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Date: 08/10/2016  1:14 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Doran Jaffas  
Subject: Re: KR> RST Engineering 

No issue and what you say makes sense.
On Aug 10, 2016 2:13 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
>
> Sorry, this post should have had the subject label changed to RST
> Engineering
>
> While I know you want to receive this stuff right away, keep in mind you
> are dealing with a small business that is a one man show, and that you
> ordered just as they were ramping up for Oshkosh, then had to travel from
> California to Oshkosh (likely in a camper), then was at Oshkosh for at
> least a week, then is traveling back home again and trying to pick up the
> pieces. Maybe... Just maybe, he is throwing in a few days of vacation on
> the way home from Oshkosh to try to get his head back on straight after the
> rush of orders taken at Oshkosh. It's not a huge surprise to me that he
> hasn't replied to an email, nor is it a surprise that nothing was shipped
> in the last 3 weeks. Jim Weir also writes a monthly column for "Kitplanes"
> and probably needs to get another column out the door to meet the oshkosh
> show report deadline, so I don't think he has flown the coop. But I do
> think he is a really busy man and you have caught him at the peak of his
> busiest time of year.
>
> I would guess he should be back home again this week and doing business
> again. This is a one man show business that has been around for a long time
> and is well known in the pilot community. A little patience will probably
> go a long ways.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
>
> > HI I am having trouble with buying a kit from rst engineering
> > paid 3 weeks ago
> > sent 2 emails about when it is to arrive
> > never answered my emails
> > paid with paypal so did a paypal item purchased not received
> > still did not get any email from them
> > they are in californa as I am
> > paypal said they sent an email asking about this but i have not received
> > the item nor have i every received any email
> > makes me kinda wonder why not at least an email
> > tom laudato
>
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KR> Antenna kit from RST Engineering

[Paul Visk]

StefanI ordered a kit July 15. I'm still waiting for it.?All I need is two 
antanas for my VOR and one for my glide slope. I would gladly spit it with you.

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From: S via KRnet  
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Date: 08/10/2016  3:25 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Cc: S  
Subject: KR> Antenna kit from RST Engineering 

KRNetters,

Is there anybody in the lower 48 intending to install a foil antenna under some 
fiberglass surface? I tried to order a kit from RST Engineering

Stefan Balatchev

KR> Gathering update

[Paul Visk]

I just confirmed with SRT Aviation (FBO at that the airport) that we will be 
getting a 20 cent discount on 100LL. So if your still on the fence about flying 
your KR to the Gathering. ?Hope this help you.So far we have seven official 
sponsors and still growing. They are listed on the bottom of the Gathering 
Webpage.?http://www.bouyea.net/KRGathering/ ???When you get a chance go and 
check them out and support them as they supported us.

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KR> FlightBox | Open Flight Solutions

[Paul Visk]

Larry H,First, I want to thank you for your hospitalityfor the two nights I 
came over and visited ?all of you at Oshkosh I had alot of fun being this was 
my first time.My opinion on the ADSB ?is that having the duel band receiver is 
nice but not really necessary. ?It is ture, you will not see the bigger 
airplanes and they will not see you if you are NOT in range of a ground 
station. If you are receiving a ground ?station everyone will see everyone. 
?The only time you will be interacting with the big airplanes will be by bigger 
airports and they will have coverage from ground base coverage.If you fly alot 
in remote areas then duel band would be handy.This is what I've learned. ?My 
opinion might change when I start flying my plane.
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 Original message 
From: larry howell via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 08/01/2016  4:04 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Cc: larry howell  
Subject: KR> FlightBox | Open Flight Solutions 

Hello,
Oshkosh is now finished for 2016.
I decided to do a tiny bit of research this year at Oshkosh because of the 
upcoming date certain mandatory ADS-B/see and be seen thing coming. I attended 
a Bendix/King seminar explaining it all plus I talked to a few vendors and 
pilots like Rob, Mark, Larry.

KR> Marks forum on Monday

[Paul Visk]

I'll be there


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 Original message 
From: Larry via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 07/25/2016  8:22 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Larry  
Subject: Re: KR> Marks forum on Monday 

That is correct
Forum building 3 at 11:30am

Larry H


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> On Jul 24, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Mike Arnold via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 11:30. I think 3??
> On Jul 24, 2016 9:42 PM, "Craig Williams via KRnet" 
> wrote:
> 
>> I have looked but do not see Marks forum on Monday.? What am I missing?
>> Anyone
>> know what stage and time.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Craig
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KR> Camp Scholler

[Paul Visk]

Tom and I are driving up to Oshkosh Sunday. ?Will be camping at Camp Schollet. 
?Is it better to arrive earlier than later on Sunday or does it matter??
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KR> RUDDER SIZE

[Paul Visk]

Kolbjern,?You don't know Joe. : )
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From: Kolbj?rn Seth via KRnet  
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Date: 07/07/2016  10:00 AM  (GMT-09:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Kolbj?rn Seth  
Subject: Re: KR> RUDDER SIZE 

28mph crosswind? Joe, I've flown jets that couldn't handle that!
Kolbjern Seth

?

KR> Ak. KR'S needing to come down

[Paul Visk]

WOW! I should bring this home for myself. ?Three years too late though.?

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From: Wayne via KRnet  
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Date: 06/30/2016  12:52 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Cc: Wayne  
Subject: Re: KR> Ak. KR'S needing to come down 

This look like a good deal. Wish I could do it myself.

Here is the link:
http://alaskaslist.com/1/posts/10_Transportation/59_Aircraft/446875_Rand_Robinson_KR2_Kit_Plane.html
-- 
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>
> Tim Wingerter twingerter at gci.net
> Thu Jun 30 10:55:23 EDT 2016
> Previous message (by thread): KR> Ak. KR'S needing to come down
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> I have a KR2 kit, partially assembled in Fairbanks.? Asking $1,200.? It can 
> be viewed on Alaska List.? ThanksTim Wingerter, 907-479-6940, 
> twingerter at gci.net





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KR> Ak. KR'S needing to come down

[Paul Visk]

If I remember right there are a few KR's in Alaska for sale. ?I'll be in 
Fairbank Ak. July 6th. with an empty 51' stepdeck trailer. ?I don't think 
anyone will be able to beat my rates. Especially if it could fly or fly in the 
future. : )Contact me off net.?
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KR> ferrite toroids

[Paul Visk]

Steve write: Knuckles from aeroelectric.com as well as Bob Archer have very 
good write ups/ instructions on how to build a good NAV antenna...
Thank you Steve. There's was alot of good info there.?I also enjoyed all the 
other electrical stuff on Bob Archer's site.?


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KR> Ferrite Baluns

[Paul Visk]

This question ?is more for Steve G.. The 2014 Gathering we made com antanas. 
?I'm making a couple of navigation antanas and need to come up with ferrite 
baluns and I can not find the one's that will fit RG-400 coax. ?Steve, do you 
have any left or does anyone have a source for them.
I've been reading RST Engineering antanas manual that I got from Mark and 
learned a lot about antanas. ?One question I still have is. Are ferrite baluns 
needed for a receiving only antana? I'm leaning towards no. But not shur.?

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KR> cable clamps

[Paul Visk]

Larry wrote??I used and purchased from Wicks years ago and found they no 
longer sell them...I was taking with Keith at Wicks not to long ago about 
these clamps. He told me the guy who made them died. He was the only one that 
made them.



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 Original message 
From: Larry Flesner via KRnet  
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Date: 06/26/2016  12:51 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Cc: Larry Flesner  
Subject: KR> cable clamps 



When the subject of "B-nuts" came up I tried to find a source for the 
clamps I used and purchased from Wicks years ago and found they no 
longer sell them.? It doesn't look like A.S. sells them either.? An 
Internet search came up empty.? They have worked great for 
me.? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8919.JPG? Does 
anyone recognize them and/or know of a source?

Larry Flesner


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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 165

[Paul Visk]

Don wrote:I just had to jump in and say I have a beautiful 1985 kr-2 that got 
it's AWC with a VW and later I mounted a Corvair and it was a flop.?
Don, What happen? ?There are some many KR's out there with Corvairs in front of 
them.?

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KR> micro balloons in high build primer?

[Paul Visk]

I have posted this link many times. ?My opinion this is the best way to prep 
the KR for painting without braking the bank.

http://curedcomposites.com/finish.html


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Date: 06/21/2016  6:18 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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Cc: svd  
Subject: KR> micro balloons in high build primer? 

anyone mix micro into high build (roll on) primer to get lighter build?

It takes a village idiot- Owen

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KR> Todd's Canopies

[Paul Visk]

Here's a picture of Todd and me. This was a couple of years ago. Boy does time 
fly.

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KR> Todd's Canopies

[Paul Visk]

Wow, Todd came over to my house last year and help me cut my canopie. ?He would 
do anything to help you. I"ll miss him.

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From: Kayak Chris via KRnet  
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Date: 06/15/2016  8:12 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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Cc: Kayak Chris  
Subject: Re: KR> Todd's Canopies 

This is terrible news...

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:16 PM, brian.kraut--- via KRnet
 wrote:
>
> Sorry to pass this information on.? I know a lot of you got your
> canopies from Todd and I had always heard good things about him.? I only
> spoke to Todd once several years ago, but he was very helpful.
>
>
> From his web site:
>
>
> Tragically, Todd passed away suddenly on June 12, 2016 following a plane
> crash. His funeral will be held on Thursday, June 16, 2016, at the
> Collegedale Church, located at 4829 College Drive E, Collegedale, TN,
> 37315. This will be live streamed online and the link will be available
> closer to the time.
>
> Please check back for updates about the future of Todd's Canopies.
> Contact his daughter Kelly at kaksgeo at gmail.com with questions.
>
> His daughter Gabriella is the only survivor of the crash, and she is
> currently still in the hospital. If you would like to contribute to her
> fund, please click here.

KR> A visit with Jeff

[Paul Visk]

I stopped by Jeff Scott's place yesterday evening on the way though with my 
travels.?I tell you what. This is some beautiful country up here at 7,000 ft. 
in northern New Mexico.He took me up for a great airplane ride in his Super 
Cub. Came back and saw his hanger neighbor's Glassair under construction. And 
of course we talked about KR stuff on his front porch drinking refreshing root 
beer. : )Again, thank you Jeff for a great evening.?
Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705
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KR> Test

[Paul Visk]

Test


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KR> Ethanol

[Paul Visk]

Ron,? ? ? ? I've heard some hardcore motorcycle dudes would do the same thing. ?
Paul Visk. ? Belleville IL. ? ?618 406 4705

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From: Ronald Wright via KRnet  
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Date: 06/06/2016  3:19 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Ronald Wright  
Subject: Re: KR> Ethanol 

It is a simple matter to separate the ethanol out of the gas.? They recommend 
using Premium fuel due to a drop in octane when taking the ethanol out.? Get a 
clear tank, add ethanol fuel, dump in water and watch it separate out the 
ethanol/water solution.? Drain out the ethanol/water and you only have unleaded 
auto fuel left over.? If you want the specific amount of water to use per 
gallon, Google the question and you will easily find several methods for doing 
this.? Simple and easy to use.? Doesn't take very long to do it either..

Another solution was to add a long length of clear tubing to the gas can with a 
shut off valve at the bottom.? Dump in the water to the fuel, turn the can 
upside down and shake.? Watch the water/ethanol separate in the clean tubing; 
open the valve and let the ethanol/water drain out;? what you have left is pure 
gasoline.

Works great.? Your choice as to whether or not you want to try it.

Ron



On Mon, 6/6/16, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet  wrote:

 Subject: KR> Ethanol
 To: krnet at list.krnet.org
 Cc: laser147 at juno.com
 Date: Monday, June 6, 2016, 1:52 PM

 I had an old Cadillac with a computer
 display that would read out my
 real-time fuel consumption.? I imagine most cars have
 such things these
 days, althoiugh the Oldsmobile that I replaced my beloved
 Cadillac with
 doesn't.? Whenever I would drive cross country and got
 into the mid-west
 where ethanol is sold, my fuel mileage would always go
 down.? 

 I'm impressed by the statement "The fastest cars in the
 country use it."
 so obviously I'm suffering form a misconception.? I
 inherently disliked
 it because it decreased my fuel mileage and because
 government welfare to
 all the farmers who grow corn for ethanol annoyes me
 too.? Plus, I've
 never trusted it in my KR.? If I do ever use auto fuel
 in the KR
 (GP-2180) I always use Chevron Supreme, which is what I
 always use in my
 other vehicles.? Calling Chevron headquarters in San
 Francisco several
 years ago, they told me Supreme has 7% ethanol in it.?
 It may be more
 now, or less, but thinking I could avoid ethanol by buying
 top grade
 gasoline was not correct.? I think it's all got ethanol
 in it, except for
 boutique racing shops that sell ethanol-free gas for
 racing.? Why would
 racing shops sell ethanol-free gas for racing if "the
 fastest cars in the
 country use it."? I'm not arguing here since I'm not
 very smart, but just
 relating my experiences.? 

 Steve Bennett said he always ran my engine on ethanol-free
 gas - which he
 could get in Omaha.? Here in San Diego it's only
 available from
 specialized racing shops.? From Steve's comments on
 operation of my
 engine, I've tried to keep ethanol out of the tanks but I
 have
 occasionally put some Chevron Supreme in.? It's always
 mixed with
 whatever 100LL is already in the tank.? In my aux tank
 in the wing, made
 from vinyl ester, I've been religious about never putting
 anything but
 100LL in it.? I've heard too many stories about car gas
 wreaking havoc to
 tanks and fuel components for me to use it more than very
 occasionally. 
 Just my experience.? I'm still learning new things . .
 .hope we all are. 


 
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KR> Fuselage sides vertical?

[Paul Visk]

Brain,?If I built my KR per plans. I wouldn't be able to fit in it ? Let alone 
have a passenger. Or have the stability to fly in IMC (To be determined. But 
looks good per other IFR rated pilots).
Paul Visk. ? ??Belleville IL. ? ? ?618 406 4705



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Date: 05/31/2016  8:47 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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Cc: brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com 
Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage sides vertical? 

What happened to "build it to plans"

KR> PARACHUTES

[Paul Visk]

About flying over the top. I would like to give an educated opinion on this 
subject.?If you want to fly over a cloud deck. You really need to have the 
ability to keep the top side up if something happens to where you have to glide 
through that deck. ?I'm not saying you need to have a full six pack with all 
the gizmos and a IFR rating. ?Just a simple attitude indicator or a turn and 
back gauge with a VSI. AND practice with a hood. Whenever I go flying with 
another pilot. I get some hood time.?When Ray and I went on a sightseeing 
flight last year at McMinnville. ?We had to get a pop up IFR clearance to get 
back. ?I wasn't current but I had no problems getting back because I 
practice.?All I'm saying is. If your going to put your self in that situation 
be prepared. And you may not need to think about a parachute. This goes with 
flying at night also.?I forgot to mention. ?I did have a CFII next to me when 
Ray and I went up.?
Paul Visk ?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705





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Cc: ol' weirdo  
Subject: KR> PARACHUTES 

Colin hales makes an interesting point re parachutes. Is baling out an
acceptable action if one is caught on top?

Bill Weir

KR> fibre frax/ BRS, personal chute

[Paul Visk]

Chris, If this was Facebook. You would have gotten a like from me.
Paul Visk ?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705?



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From: Chris Prata via KRnet  
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Date: 05/09/2016  2:34 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Chris Prata  
Subject: Re: KR> fibre frax 

I'm sure it will slow things down, but wouldnt an engine fire eventually (and 
quickly) burn around the edges and catch the wood behind the firewall that way?
make fun of me all u want but my KR1 will have a BRS and I wear a personal 
chute that way I can save the plane if possible, myself if necessary

KR> Landing gear question

[Paul Visk]

I have the same legs. ?I left my legs the same thickness and extrapolated 
dimensions from some pictures and a visit to some airplanes.I'm tapering the 
front and back edges to help forum the round nose and tapered trailing edge.
Paul ViskBelleville IL618,406 4705



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From: Mark Wegmet via KRnet  
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Date: 05/08/2016  6:33 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: 'KRnet'  
Cc: Mark Wegmet  
Subject: KR> Landing gear question 

I recently bought a couple of gear legs that are fiberglass and for a Grumman 
which have indicated that they will support a 2200 to .

I think the length is good, but the other dimensions will be too stiff.

What do you guys think? Thanks.

Mark W.
N952MW (res)

KR> Facet fuel pump flare?

[Paul Visk]

John, ?what you are looking at is a ?Female Swivel couper p/n ?SC606 from 
Wicks. ??Jeff, ?Yes I was planning on putting a box over it and feed fresh air 
to it with a scat hose. ?The temperatures you came up with are very 
interesting. ?

Paul ViskBelleville Il?618 406 4705?

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 Original message From: John Martindale via KRnet  Date: 4/30/16  5:02 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: 'KRnet'  Cc: John Martindale  Subject: 
Re: KR> Facet fuel pump flare? 
Hi Paul

I'm curious. How did you manage to flare those short lengths of AN6 tube 
between the pumps etc and still get the fittings on?or am I missing 
something here.

Cheers John

John Martindale
29 Jane Circuit
Toormina NSW 2452
Australia

ph:61 2 6658 4767
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Paul ViskBelleville Il 618 406 4705 

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Pete,? Here's a picture of my firewall with my primary and backup Facet pumps 
all with AN? fittings.? Along with my gascator, fuel pressure and fuel flow 
transmitters. The idea came from the Sonex's Corvair engine installation 
manual.? With this installation there is no pressure ice fuel in the cotpit.? 
Paul Visk Belleville Il 618 406 4705 . 
The Facet is part 40108 and is made 3/8" flared and also AN-6.
The Earl's fuel filters are part number 230106 and are AN-6.

The Facet AN-6 is made for the racing world. Here is a link where you can 
get the AN-6 Facets:
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=84


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI





Mark Your fuel system page shows your Facet fuel pumps connected to fuel 
lines using AN fittings. I spoke with a "tech?" at Facet and he "thought 
they were a 45 deg SAE flare" as they only made fuel pumps for automotive 
use. Had you had any leaks or problems using the 37 deg AN fittings? Did you 
alter the AN fittings to 45 deg?Pete



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KR> Facet fuel pump flare?

[Paul Visk]

Paul ViskBelleville Il?618 406 4705?

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Pete, ?Here's a picture of my firewall with my primary and backup Facet pumps 
all with AN ?fittings. ?Along with my gascator, fuel pressure and fuel flow 
transmitters.?The idea came from the Sonex's Corvair engine installation 
manual. ?With this installation there is no pressure ice fuel in the cotpit. ?
Paul Visk?Belleville Il?618 406 4705?.?
The Facet is part 40108 and is made 3/8" flared and also AN-6.
The Earl's fuel filters are part number 230106 and are AN-6.

The Facet AN-6 is made for the racing world. Here is a link where you can 
get the AN-6 Facets:
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=84


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI





Mark Your fuel system page shows your Facet fuel pumps connected to fuel 
lines using AN fittings. I spoke with a "tech?" at Facet and he "thought 
they were a 45 deg SAE flare" as they only made fuel pumps for automotive 
use. Had you had any leaks or problems using the 37 deg AN fittings? Did you 
alter the AN fittings to 45 deg?Pete

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KR> KR Gathering: Sponsor update

[Paul Visk]

I stopped by SRT Aviation at Mt. Vernon Airport and talked to the president of 
the FBO. ?Richard and I talked for a couple of hours. ?He was wearing a 
Airforce cap. ?It turnes out he worked on B-52's just as I did. ?We could have 
talked for hours. ?But my electronic log book in my truck was saying, ?Paul 
it's time to go or we won't get home.?For the planes that fly in for the 
gathering. ?He will be giving a substantial fuel discount. (to be 
announced)?Thank you Richard. ?John added SRW's and Drury ?Inn links to the 
sponsor section on the website. ?

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KR> Progress report

[Paul Visk]

Nice report Robert. ?See you in September.?
Paul Visk ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Belleville Il 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?618 406 4705?


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??? 
Hello everyone,Just a little update on N863RK. Yesterday I finish the 
installation on my oil cooler, flying my kr2 the winter months the oil 
temperature would stay below 200 ?But as the weather is getting warmer I 
noticed the temperature would raise up above 220 degrees

KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update

[Paul Visk]

Wayne, ?Dogpile doesn't bring it up ether.?I can always have perspective 
sponsors go to krnet. org ?then to the link. ?But it would be better for the 
gathering to show up in a search. ?
Paul Visk?Belleville Il?618 406 4705?


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 Original message From: Wayne via KRnet  Date: 4/23/16  2:03 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Cc: Wayne  Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering 
Web Site Update 
Here you go Paul.

http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/index.html

I used dogpile search. I don't use google anymore.

Wayne DeLisle Sr.

> KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update
>
> Paul Visk ppaulvsk at aol.com
> Sat Apr 23 13:54:39 EDT 2016
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> John or anyone else.? Do you know how to get "2016 KR Gathering" to show up 
> in a Google search? What comes up is the 2015 gathering home page. This would 
> make it alot easier for going after sponsors.
> Paul Visk? Belleville Il?? 618 406 4705

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KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update

[Paul Visk]

John or anyone else. ?Do you know how to get "2016 KR Gathering" to show up in 
a Google search??What comes up is the 2015 gathering home page.?This would make 
it alot easier for going after sponsors. ?
Paul Visk ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Belleville Il ? ? ??618 406 4705?


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---Ok Paul,*I updated the home page with our first sponsor, Wicks Aircraft. I 
sure would like to give promotional exposure to other businesses who are 
willing to support the 2016 KR Gathering!*

KR> New video on YouTube

[Paul Visk]

I haven't seen this one before. ?It's pretty good
https://youtu.be/HuqzsMNAC9w
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KR> engine run videos

[Paul Visk]

What! ?Who doesn't use Facebook? ?: )?
Paul Visk?Belleville Il?618 406 4705?


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 Original message From: Chris Prata via KRnet  Date: 4/20/16  10:44 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet  Cc: Chris Prata  Subject: Re: KR> 
engine run videos 
hi paul, not everyone uses FB, maybe Youtube is ur friend? Easy uploading, 
universal compatibility...


> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 23:33:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: KR> engine run videos
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: pkengr at hotmail.com
> 
> Still nothing?!?!
>? 
> > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 22:32:32 -0400
> > To: krnet at list.krnet.org; corvaircraft at list.corvaircraft.org
> > Subject: KR> engine run videos
> > From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > CC: PPaulVsk at aol.com
> > 
> > 
> >? 
> > I figured out a why to get the video up on the list of my engine? run.? 
> > https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286086
> > 3677/?type=3
> > https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286114
> > 3684/?type=3
> >? 
> > Paul Visk
> > Belleville Il.
> > 618 406 4705
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KR> 1st Engine run on my KR-2S

[Paul Visk]

Let's try it again.?

https://youtu.be/re43u23glcQ

https://youtu.be/SioEC5MUAfI
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KR> Engine Run Fly In

[Paul Visk]

Today was a great day. ?Another day closer to completion. ??Mark L. and Larry 
came over to help me start my Corvair for the first time on my airplane. We 
missed Rob Schmitt ?He was weathered out. ?There was about 15 people from my 
EAA chapter that came out to watch the show.?After Mark figured out a problem 
that the condenser was not grounded being it was installen on the front shelf 
and after I added a ground wire to the condenser. ?The engine started up with a 
fury.
Paul Visk?Belleville Il?618 406 4705 ?


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KR> Fly In/ engine run

[Paul Visk]

This Sunday morning. ?I'm taking my KR-2S down to Columbia Il. ?Sackmen field 
H49 for it's first on airplane engine run (I hope).??If anyone in the St Louis 
area or any one else would like to come over or fly in to see a few flying 
KR-2's. ?Join Mark L., Larry, Mark S. and my self for I hope a productive and 
fun day. ?
Paul ViskBelleville Il618 406 4705?



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KR> KR Engine Cowling

[Paul Visk]

Pete, ?that's an easy one. ? http://www.uscomposites.comThere pennies on the 
dollar compared to Wicks and AC Spruce.?
Paul Visk?Belleville Il?618 406 4705?

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Mark / Netters
I have run the CG numbers many times using four different datum reference 
points and have determined that I need to move the engine three inches fwd of 
the WW location for a standard KR-2S. As Joe Horton noted, my plane is 1'-3" 
longer than any of the other planes that responded to his request for 
dimensions. My flying CG with me and partial fuel to max gross wt at 1320 goes 
from 1.25" aft of the fwd limit to 3.5" aft of the fwd limit, well within the 
"preferred 6" CG range. All the calculations came within a 1/16" no matter 
where I set the datum.

My next step is to build the cowling. Ron Willet is making a female mold off a 
cowling plug that I have as we speak. I will do the same after I make some 
slight changes to the plug, to clear the alternator. My question for Mark and 
fellow netters is where to purchase carbon fiber cloth other than Aircraft 
Spruce as they are pretty pricey. Also need to know which weave is best to use.
Thanks in advance for any info,
Pete Klapp
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Pete,

I don't think you'll regret moving the engine forward. These planes put on 
weight as they age. Everything you lighten up seems to be in front of the CG. 
Everything you add to the plane seems to be behind the CG. When I did a new W 
for my plane last week I was surprised at how much the CG has crept back over 
the last 20 years. It's still good, but that's because I started out with a 
very forward CG.

A quick google search shows that Aircraft Spruce is pretty competitive on the 
price for CF cloth if you're buying small amounts.? You can get much better 
prices, but you have to buy in bulk (like100 yds) to get them.? One of the 
better deals I saw was buying remnant on Ebay.? Like 5 yds for $125, which 
might be about right for your cowl.? Of course you could build the cowl out of 
glass.? Then you can shorten your mount 1/2" thanks to the heavier cowl. :o)?
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-Jeff Scott
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KR> Gathering sale items

[Paul Visk]

That is one thing ?I remember about ?Mt.Vernon. ?Is all the tables of stuff for 
sale.?Make sure you bring your builders logs and your pictures of your 
projects. ?
Paul Visk, ?Belleville Il?618 406 4705?


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Yes, anyone can bring anything they think other builders might be 
interested in.? I just can't guarantee a sale. :-)

Larry Flesner 

KR> Center Foward Spar Dimension

[Paul Visk]

Are you using the new airfoil??
Paul Visk?Belleville Il?618 406 4705?


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Foward Spar Dimension 
I apologize in advance if this information is in here somewhere but I have 
searched and was unable to find it.The spruce sent to me for the forward center 
spar caps per the kr2s cut list is 2"x 1 1/4".?

KR> Todays date

[Paul Visk]

Did someone forget what today is?


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KR> Anyone looking for 2" pink foam

[Paul Visk]

No, I didn't hijack it. But I'm definitely getting bent over for what I'm 
hauling it for. ?
Paul Visk?Belleville Il?618 406 4705


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Re: KR> Anyone looking for 2" pink foam 
Paul,

Did you hijack that load?? LOL
-- 
Wayne DeLisle Sr.

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KR> Anyone looking for 2" pink foam

[Paul Visk]

1200 sheets can build alot of airplanes ?: )
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KR> Carbon Fiber speed brake

[Paul Visk]

I would use a mico flox mixture to seal the edges of the holes.
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>
>I should add to this that given that you are putting holes in it,
>plywood core does make perfect sense, and I would laminate it all
>together and then cut the holes.? That's a lot easier than the other
>way, and it'll work fine.
>Mark Langford
++

Mine has holes and is a foam core (1/4") so I know the foam with 
holes will work.? I'm with Mark on "build the board then cut the? holes".

Larry Flesner 


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KR> Carbon Fiber

[Paul Visk]

I made my with 3/32 birch. I followed ?Mark Langford's design and mine is as 
stiff as a-well you know-.?I was going to cut my holes ?after I did my flight 
testing.?We've had some pretty intense discussions on holes or no holes. ?So I 
was going to do both and document the difference. Start with no holes and then 
add the holes. ?I personally believe the holders are more efficient. ?Maybe we 
get a few of us doing that so we can figure that out. ?Holes are no holes and 
finally put it to rest.
Paul ViskBelleville Il.618 406 4705


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??? 
Carbon fiber is my new favorite building material. ?I want to use carbon fiber 
to build the belly board for my KR2. ?I used the material to extend my 
horizontal stabilizer and I love the way it worked out.
So, do you believe that one eighth inch plywood sandwiched between carbon fiber 
would be strong enough for a belly board 32 by 9 inches??
-How many layers??-My belly board will have 2 inch holes. ?Do I cut the holes 
before or after I laminate with carbon fiber? ?(Yes, our long discussions have 
convinced me. ?Please don't think less of me If you believe I don't need 
holes)-what reinforcements could I use, keeping it thin and aerodynamic.
You are all awesome! Thank you.
Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida?
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KR> I can get spoiled flying up here.

[Paul Visk]

Your write Larry. ?I use voice to text most of the time and there our times I 
miss something when I go back and proofread. I'm not much of a righter, butt 
eye do my best. ?: )
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Lawrence Bell via KRnet  Date: 3/19/2016  9:15 AM  
(GMT-07:00) To: KRnet  Cc: Lawrence Bell  Subject: Re: KR> I can get spoiled flying up here. 
Hi Paul,
 Not to be picky, but I think you mean "up here" unless I missed
something. I always google stuff to make sure.
 All the best, Larry Bell

KR> I can get spoiled flying up here.

[Paul Visk]

I took a load of Kubota tractors out to Medford Oregon this week. Before my 
next load I had to take a 34-hour break. So I decided to go fly. I went up to 
Grants Pass Or. K3S8. to rent a 172. The instructor and I flew out to Brooking 
Or. KBOK Then down the coast to Crescent City Ca.KCEC then back to Grants 
Pass.?On the way out to Brooking. We flew though Canyons to the coast. I 
haven't done that since Alaska. ?From Brooking to Crescent. We flew 500 ft of 
the ocean along the coast. That was fun flying around the big rocks. ?On the 
way back I got some hood time. When we were almost back. I told Walt I really 
enjoyed the flight and wanted to get checked out. So at the end we did some 
slow flight and a couple of stalls then landed.?I love taking friends and Young 
Eagles up and fly pass the Gateway Arch. But up hear is something special. Dan 
P. and John B. and everyone else who's up hear. You guys have it great up 
hear.Ray, I can add California to my list. : )
Paul ViskBelleville Il?618 406 4705


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